[00:00] <techsupport> how do I extract file.tar ?
[00:07] <cjwatson> techsupport: tar xf file.tar
[00:07] <techsupport> cjwatson, thanx
[00:07] <cjwatson> petia: it'll extract to the current directory, so you might want to do this in a new directory just in case
[01:25] <renatokrause> Good night
[01:25] <wo0f> nn
[01:25] <renatokrause> i wrote a code and i like to sugests to incorporate. how can i do this?
[01:27] <renatokrause> *sugests to add in Ubuntu and Debian
[01:28] <jtaji> !packaging | renatokrause
[01:29] <renatokrause> is a daemon for the mrtg. the mrtg exists but in Ubuntu it run in crontab and dont explore a daemon resource of MRTG. I wrote a daemon based in /etc/skeleton.
[01:30] <renatokrause> */etc/init.d/skeleton
[01:32] <renatokrause> !mrtg
[01:33] <jtaji> renatokrause: I suppose you can file a bug and attach your patch https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mrtg
[01:39] <renatokrause> jtaji: very thanks. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mrtg/+bug/358123
[01:41] <jtaji> renatokrause: you are welcome
[01:41] <renatokrause> jtaji: thanks man, very thanks really
[01:44] <renatokrause> jtaji: im writing a bot configurator of swith for mrtg, i dont know if its can be added too.
[01:44] <renatokrause> i write this in python and bash
[01:54] <jtaji> renatokrause: I'm sure your contributions will be welcome... here's some info on submitting patches https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Patches
[01:55] <renatokrause> jtaji: thanks i will read
[02:06] <renatokrause> bye all, i will play with my son
[02:07] <renatokrause> thanks all
[02:53] <twb> How do I discover what my nearest primary mirror is?  Apparently "apt-get install apt-spy" is wrong.
[02:58] <brad_> I will ask in case anyone knows (I've went through synaptics and can't find what I'm looking for)  I have about 150 accounts telnet/ssh on different devices that I have to change my  passwords every 60-90 days and was wondering if there was an app that could assist me with this?
[03:13] <twb> brad_: the Right Thing would be to stop using passwords.  Instead, use key-based authentication.  Then you only need to change the passphrase on one ssh key.
[03:13] <twb> If you just want a tool to generate randomized passwords, I can recommend apg(1).
[03:13] <brad_> I agree, but they can't force passwords on the ssh key
[03:14] <brad_> the right thing to do would be to use radius
[03:14] <twb> brad_: possibly so.
[03:14] <brad_> twb: nah, I need something to go change all those passwords.
[03:15] <twb> That would basically mean that you had all the passwords written down where the script could get to them anyway.
[03:15] <twb> IMO that pretty much defeats the purpose of having passwords.
[03:17] <brad_> I would have the passwords consistent across the devices and would just be changed.  I keep everything in an encrypted app on my blackberry
[03:19] <twb> brad_: wait a minute.  You're saying that you have 50 different telnet and ssh targets, and they all have the SAME password?
[03:22] <brad_> yes, but I'm not an administrator on those boxes... for example, the cisco routers are read only.
[03:22] <brad_> the one's I admin I use securid on :)
[03:22] <twb> Owie
[03:22] <twb> brad_: you mean an RSA token?
[03:23] <twb> Yeah
[03:23] <brad_> if they're going to use telnet and not ssh then it doesn't deserve a special password for each one since they don't care about security to behin with.
[03:23] <twb> I hate the new USB ones, though
[03:23] <brad_> yep, RSA securid token.
[03:23] <twb> brad_: IMO it doesn't deserve a password in the first place -- just make it the null password.
[03:23] <brad_> I just have the standard keyfob
[03:24] <brad_> i've already installed the sshaskpass app so if a site requires a password for your ssh key it fakes it out.
[03:24] <twb> You mean a passphrase?
[03:24] <brad_> but then again I'm the type of person who locks my machine every time I walk away from it.
[03:25] <brad_> yes
[03:25] <twb> I'd have said that's ssh-agent's job, not ssh-askpass's
[03:49] <sebblucas> hi!
[03:50] <sebblucas> i've installed a 'Perfect Server' setup for ISPConfig (2) on 8.04 LTS
[03:51] <sebblucas> i need some assistance as to where are some guides or PDFs on hosting own site.
[03:51] <sebblucas> i just registered a domain name today
[03:51] <sebblucas> and i would like to set it up, though i have no clue what to lookup in google.
[03:51] <sebblucas> any help out there?
[03:54] <twb> I'm not aware of any rigorous, comprehensive documentation on the subject.
[03:55] <twb> Generally I'd be inclined to recommend a VPS solution rather than hosting your own hardware in a back room.
[03:56] <twb> For ispconfig specifically I found upstream documentation at http://www.ispconfig.org/documentation.htm
[04:41] <oh_noes> Is this command meant to work?  "scp /local/* user@server:/foo/bar/" meant to work?  I get "/local/* No such file or directory"
[04:41] <oh_noes> ls -l /local/* works (it exists)
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> try scp -r /local/ instead of scp /local/*
[04:45] <oh_noes> oh nice, thanks
[04:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> ( i assume you want a recursive copy ... :))
[04:47] <oh_noes> Yep.   I found * works in some systems, but i'll stick to recursive, cheers
[06:12] <twb> After making an LVM volume and a filesystem on it, how do I make the filesystem appear in /dev/disk/by-uuid?
[08:30] <kraut> moin
[10:04] <HigH5> Anybody out there with LDAP experience?
[10:05] <incorrect> sure
[10:06] <HigH5> I'm trying to add an ldif file with slapadd (followed the official help for Ubuntu Server), but the slapadd keeps telling me I have an error: "Error, entries missing! entry 1: dc=example,dc=com"
[10:07] <incorrect> and your dn is dc=example?
[10:07] <HigH5> No, is something different, but I have that sorted out.
[10:08] <incorrect> so why are you trying to add to example?
[10:09] <HigH5> Actually, the dn is dc=kas,dc=lan
[10:09] <incorrect> so change your add command to reflect that
[10:10] <HigH5> No, that's fine: slapadd -l kas.lan.ldif
[10:12] <incorrect> and the ldif file looks like?
[10:14] <HigH5> Just like this one here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
[10:14] <HigH5> It's in the middle of the page.
[10:15] <incorrect> let me guess, ou=people should be ou=People
[10:15] <incorrect> ou=groups = ou=Groups
[10:19] <HigH5> Well, I just figured it out. The template from the official guide seems to be incomplete.
[10:20] <incorrect> the docs are pretty poor for ldap
[10:20] <HigH5> The community guide template solved my problem. I had to add dn at the beginning.
[10:21] <incorrect> i've packaged 2.4.15 of openldap for hardy as .11 is pants
[10:21] <HigH5> It works now, thanks anyway.
[11:38] <oly> hi, can anyone tell me how you netinstall ubuntu 64bit are there seperate linux and and initrd.gz files ??
[11:39] <oly> or do you use some sort of parameter at boot ?
[11:39] <oly> I am already netinstalling 32bit ubuntu just want to add 64 bit versions
[11:41] <cjwatson> separate files
[11:41] <cjwatson> under installer-amd64
[11:43] <oly> okay cheers :)
[11:50] <davmor2> Guys I had a query last night off a guy who runs a small hosting company.  He uses centos at the moment but would like to use ubuntu server but needs compatibility with something call cpanel iirc.  (the hosting config panel you get)  Are there any plans to get this certified for ubuntu or not do you know?
[12:27] <ttx> davmor2: it's apparently not a question of certification. cPanel apparently only supports RHEL (or centos). Since it's closed-source afaict, they would need to port it somehow
[12:28] <davmor2> ttx: cool thanks I'll pass the message on
[12:28] <ttx> davmor2: I don't know cpanel, was just looking at their website
[12:28] <davmor2> ttx: No Probs
[14:34] <Knightwise> hey guyz
[14:34] <Knightwise> do you know if imagewriter supports ubuntu server ?
[14:34] <Knightwise> i want to boot my machine of a stick
[15:30] <Sam-I-Am> hmmmm
[15:30] <Sam-I-Am> anyone here use dhcpd with in failover peer mode?
[15:30] <Sam-I-Am> getting a fun segfault occasionally with the jaunty packages
[15:41] <hackeron> hey, I put "fusecctv         hard    nice           -10" into /etc/security/limits.conf - logged out and back in, but I get "nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied" when I run say nice -n -5 echo -- any ideas?
[15:42] <giovani3> are you root?
[15:43] <hackeron> giovani3: no
[15:43] <giovani3> well uh ... why do you think you'd be getting a "permission denied" then?
[15:43] <giovani3> only root can set a negative nice value
[15:43] <hackeron> giovani3: that's the question - the line I added to limits.conf should allow user fusecctv to set nice level up to -10
[15:43] <giovani3> unless the process has been specifically allowed beyond that in limits.conf
[15:44] <giovani3> yes, but you just said you ran nice on echo
[15:44] <giovani3> not fusecctv
[15:44] <hackeron> giovani3: huh?
[15:44] <giovani3> "when I run say nice -n -5 echo"
[15:44] <hackeron> oh wait, I had to log out of the original shell
[15:44] <hackeron> works now
[15:44] <hackeron> $ whoami
[15:44] <hackeron> fusecctv
[15:44] <hackeron> fusecctv@fusetech-dev:~$ nice -n -5 echo
[15:44] <hackeron> works fine :)
[15:45] <giovani3> great
[15:45] <hackeron> except why on earth are limits disabled in /etc/pam.d/su by default!??!?
[16:15] <jpds> hackeron: Because root is not enabled by default?
[16:15] <jpds> And thus, sudo is used instead?
[16:18] <hackeron> jpds: what?
[16:18] <hackeron> jpds: limits allow you not to use root
[16:19] <hackeron> jpds: so here you're forced to use root unless you edit /etc/pam.d/su and enable limits which enabled /etc/security processing -- you may as well delete /etc/security in the default setup :)
[16:33] <jdstrand> ScottK: fyi-- between the delayed 0.95.1 release and some security work that popped up yesterday, I was not able to get 0.95.1 before archive freeze
[16:33]  * Sam-I-Am files a bug report on dhcp3-server
[16:33] <Sam-I-Am> yay segfaults!
[16:34] <Sam-I-Am> and theres no debugging symbols compiled in either...
[16:34] <cjwatson> use ubuntu-bug and it will fetch the necessary symbols
[16:35] <cjwatson> if you've already filed the bug, and you're running jaunty, you can use apport-collect to add information to an existing bug
[16:35] <Sam-I-Am> well, i have some output from gdb
[16:35] <cjwatson> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[16:35] <Sam-I-Am> it'll tell me which function it borked in, but no debugging symbols
[16:35] <Sam-I-Am> er, dhcpd was not compiled with -g i guess and theres no -dbg package
[16:35] <cjwatson> debugging symbols are in separate packages
[16:35] <cjwatson> the tools I just pointed you to know how to fetch them on demand
[16:36] <Sam-I-Am> sure...
[16:36] <cjwatson> Sam-I-Am: if for some reason you need to do it by hand, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[16:37] <Sam-I-Am> thats what i've been reading
[16:37] <Sam-I-Am> getting the gdb output from that documentation
[16:38] <cjwatson> if you've already been reading that, you should already have debugging symbols ...
[16:38] <cjwatson> (from ddebs.ubuntu.com)
[16:39] <Sam-I-Am> ah, thats where they're hiding...
[16:40] <cjwatson> very first section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[16:41] <Sam-I-Am> yeah, i apparently managed to jump into DebuggingProcedures first
[16:41] <Sam-I-Am> got it now... installing debug packages
[16:41] <Sam-I-Am> thx
[17:18] <Sam-I-Am> cjwatson: interesting how i cant get it to crash under valgrind :)
[17:30] <jcastro> kirkland: slots are filling up quickly now, you might want to stake a claim rsn.
[17:31] <kirkland> jcastro: url
[17:32] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep
[17:32] <jcastro> anyone else on the server team want to do a session?
[17:37] <jcastro> yeesh, not everyone jump up at once.
[17:38] <Sam-I-Am> heh
[17:49] <mralphabet> Anybody familiar with some knowledge base software?  Any recommendations?
[17:51] <giovani3> mralphabet: I've used docuwiki a bit
[17:51] <giovani3> twiki is also a common choice
[17:55] <Sam-I-Am> yay, bug filed
[17:56] <Sam-I-Am> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/358589
[17:57] <Sam-I-Am> cjwatson: thanks for the tip on finding the right debug package
[17:58] <cjwatson> np
[18:03] <Sam-I-Am> hey look...
[19:35] <J_P> hi all
[19:36] <J_P> hi all
[19:36] <J_P> people, ubuntu server 8.10 don't have more webmin package?
[19:36] <J_P> any other? I would like give to user configure IP interface via web
[19:37] <p_quarles> I remember reading somewhere that webmin was quite difficult to maintain due to design issues
[19:37] <friartuck> J_P if you are talking about the actual package "webmin" don't use that product. It's full of security issues.
[19:48] <giovani> J_P: webmin isn't supported in ubuntu
[19:48] <giovani> !webmin
[19:48] <giovani> !ebox
[20:08] <J_P> friartuck: and giovani so, do you know another package for that? configure IP via web ?
[20:08] <giovani> J_P: read what it says
[20:08] <giovani> it can't be more clear
[20:09] <J_P> giovani: ahh sorry, I see now :-)
[20:13] <User777> with proftpd how do I allow a user to access a director outside of his home?
[20:17] <User777> anyone?
[20:27] <ivoks> hello
[20:29] <WastePotato> Hi.
[21:08] <twomashi> im getting 404s when I try to upgrade
[21:08] <twomashi> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.24-23-server_2.6.24-23.48_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[21:08] <twomashi> anyone got any idea..?
[21:09] <kees> twomashi: your apt cache is likely out of date.   sudo apt-get update   and try again
[21:10] <twomashi> that was it, thanks!
[21:10] <giovani> twomashi: you have to do that regularly -- really, once every time before you install/upgrade a bunch of packages
[21:10] <giovani> i.e. if you're gonna do 3 separate apt-gets in a few minutes/hours, no need to run apt-get update 3 times, but, if they're a day or more apart -- run apt-get update first
[21:11] <twomashi> yea
[21:11] <twomashi> im not that well versed in ubuntu
[21:11] <twomashi> but you have the same thing in arch linux
[21:11] <twomashi> have to synchronise the package databases
[21:11] <giovani> yeah, this is not ubuntu-specific
[21:11] <giovani> apt is a debian creation
[21:53] <ScottK> jdstrand: slangasek says we can still get it in.
[21:54] <jdstrand> ScottK: AIUI, there are 2 relevant security issues
[21:54] <jdstrand> ScottK: I'm going to have a tough time getting it in before early next week (and even then will be hard)
[21:54] <Grahzny> Sometimes I miss ole Debian. Maybe sometime I'll set it up 5.0 as an alternative to Ubuntu-server.
[21:54] <ScottK> jdstrand: I have some time now.  Let me see what I can do.
[21:55] <jdstrand> ScottK: that would be truly excellent. I can work on backporting the security fixes to intrepid (but again, it'll be early next week)
[21:55] <ScottK> OK.
[22:42] <saysay123> hello, any one here running ubuntu on a gigabit network ? If so how fast id you large transfer speeds ?
[23:35] <Penguino> Hi everyone
[23:35] <Penguino> I need help
[23:35] <Penguino> (sorry if i'm bothering you)
[23:49] <Penguino> Sorry
[23:50] <Penguino> Ok, this is my question
[23:50] <Penguino> I'm trying to make it catch wireless connection with a USB adapter
[23:50] <Penguino> Exactly it uses this chipset
[23:50] <Penguino> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 148f:2573 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2501USB Wireless Adapter
[23:51] <Penguino> Do Ubuntu Server support this chipset?
[23:51] <Penguino> I found the driver, but i don't know if I must install it
[23:52] <Penguino> Again, sorry if i'm annoying :(
[23:53] <JanC> wireless in a server?
[23:53] <Penguino> Yes
[23:53] <Penguino> You mean... this is not possible?
[23:53] <Penguino> I was going to make server use wireless connection
[23:53] <JanC> it's not a very common use case
[23:54] <Penguino> Oh
[23:54] <Penguino> What about a wired connection?
[23:54] <JanC> have you tried using the desktop kernel?
[23:54] <Penguino> Nope
[23:54] <Penguino> I didn't try
[23:54] <Penguino> I think it's the kernel too
[23:54] <Penguino> But... does desktop kernel work ok with a server?
[23:55] <JanC> Penguino: if your server is based on desktop hardware, then the desktop kernel should work
[23:56] <Penguino> Yes, it's based on desktop hardware
[23:56] <Penguino> And wireless adapter worked on my desktop
[23:56] <Penguino> Ok
[23:56] <Penguino> So... thank you so much
[23:56] <Penguino> Sorry for my noobness
[23:56] <Penguino> :D
[23:56] <JanC> no problem
[23:56] <Penguino> Oh
[23:57] <JanC> the -server kernel is more for real server hardware
[23:57] <Penguino> Does PHP, MySQL, LAMP and all that applications work on desktop server?
[23:57] <JanC> yes
[23:57] <Penguino> (ok, thanks for your advice)
[23:57] <Penguino> I didn't know that
[23:57] <Penguino> Ok
[23:57] <JanC> you only have to change the kernel, not install everything again  ツ
[23:57] <Penguino> Again, thanks
[23:57] <Penguino> Oh
[23:58] <Penguino> Again...
[23:58] <Penguino> Let me google it
[23:58] <JanC> you need the kernel images ending in -generic
[23:58] <Penguino> Ohhhhhhh
[23:58] <Penguino> I understand
[23:58] <Penguino> My image ends on -server
[23:59] <Penguino> So, shouldI remove current image and
[23:59] <JanC> yes, that's what the server CD installs by default, while the desktop CD installs -generic by default
[23:59] <Penguino> *install new one?
[23:59] <Penguino> Oh
[23:59] <Penguino> Ok
[23:59] <Penguino> Apt-get, i think