[08:39] <davmor2> Morning All
[11:07] <davmor2> jtholmes: you around?
[11:08] <jtholmes> i just got stirring, good morning
[11:09] <davmor2> Morning
[11:10] <davmor2> jtholmes: when you check Kubuntu can you check that the partitioner is displaying the bars properly again please
[11:10] <jtholmes> will do
[11:10] <davmor2> ta
[11:10] <davmor2> I'll probably run a test this afternoon
[11:11] <davmor2> it's just nice to have 2 confirms :)
[11:11] <jtholmes> does it matter that i usually manually partition
[11:12] <davmor2> jtholmes: no, just check that if you click the check boxes for whole drive and side by side the bars don't vanish
[11:12] <davmor2> then go on to manual and hit forward
[11:14] <jtholmes> will do
[11:15] <davmor2> ta
[12:33] <jtholmes> davmor2, there appears to be a change in behavior, let me check yesterdays iso and will update
[13:15] <davmor2> fader_: I'm off on lunch in a second but I've dropped in a rough here http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/System/Translation feel free to add anything :)
[13:16] <fader_> davmor2: Cool, I will check that out.  Thanks!
[13:58] <davmor2> fader_: what do you think is that alright for a start
[13:59] <fader_> davmor2: Yeah... I've been trying to think of how to expand it, but it's a pretty broad topic :)  I think that's a good start anyway.
[13:59] <fader_> davmor2: I might make a couple of minor edits to it if you don't mind just to make it a little more understandable for me :)
[13:59] <davmor2> fader_: that was the issue I had too
[14:00] <davmor2> fader_: knock yourself out
[14:03] <davmor2> fader_: only other thing I can think of is to check that characters are properly formed
[14:03] <davmor2> for chinese etc
[14:04] <fader_> Yeah, good point
[14:04] <fader_> I'm also wondering if we ought to add some cases for checking translations in specific apps or in the desktop, but that could get out of hand pretty fast.
[14:06] <davmor2> fader_: that's the problem.  My solution is to add this testcase to the end of the installer in all general tests which should then cover every app with one testcase
[14:06] <fader_> davmor2: Yeah, that seems reasonable for apps
[14:06] <fader_> I'm thinking about adding something to check things like the panel items, the help screen, etc.
[14:07] <fader_> as I don't think those are really called out anywhere else or in any of the application tests
[14:08] <davmor2> fader_: I think we can add 3 cases installer, general, app.  Installer is obvious, general is over all look of the desktop and apps speaks for itself
[14:09] <fader_> Sounds good to me.  I'll take a crack at that in a few minutes
[14:09] <fader_> (Right now the environment for server automated tests is on fire so I need to put that out first... bleh)
[14:10]  * davmor2 hands fader_ a fire extinguisher
[14:10] <davmor2> powder only don't want sparks flying too :)
[14:11] <fader_> Aww, you're no fun :P
[14:13] <jcastro> anyone want to run a testing session for ubuntu openweek?
[14:16]  * davmor2 runs for the hills
[14:18] <jtholmes> davmor2, definitely different on the bars
[14:18] <jtholmes> the bars and the partiton options are no longer on the same display
[14:18] <davmor2> cool now I got some free time I can start testing but thanks for the update
[14:19] <jtholmes> unless you select use the entire disk
[14:19] <jtholmes> otherwise the bars and options are on different displays this is not how i remember it
[14:19] <davmor2> jtholmes: I'll have a look in a minute
[14:20] <jtholmes> sure
[14:20] <jtholmes> i need to set up  vbox moving from machine to machine is to expensive in time
[14:29] <fader_> davmor2: I took a crack at expanding the translation test cases into the three you suggested... let me know what you think :)
[14:30] <davmor2> fader_: looks good :)
[14:31] <fader_> \o/
[16:35] <stgraber> davmor2: ping
[16:35] <davmor2> hello
[16:35] <davmor2> stgraber: pong
[16:35] <stgraber> davmor2: do we have wubi for jaunty ?
[16:36] <stgraber> davmor2: I'm installing ubuntu on a windows laptop and it doesn't seem to work on intrepid so would like to try with jaunty
[16:36] <davmor2> yes hopefully r118 has gone through which works quite well
[16:36] <stgraber> url ?
[16:37] <davmor2> stgraber: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/wubi.exe
[16:40] <stgraber> davmor2: doesn't open ...
[16:40] <stgraber> a window appear for half a sec and disappears
[16:40] <davmor2> hang on then
[16:41] <davmor2> stgraber: http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/wubi/jaunty/ and click on r118 :)
[16:41] <stgraber> k
[16:42] <stgraber> exactly the same behavior
[16:43] <davmor2> stgraber: hang on I think it might be specific for cd 2 ticks
[16:46] <stgraber> crashes with an ASCII issue, likely utf8 problem
[17:02] <davmor2> hello charlie-tca
[17:09] <charlie-tca> Hello, davmor2
[17:09] <charlie-tca> How are things looking today?
[17:10] <davmor2> kubuntu bad
[17:10] <davmor2> everything else should be fine
[17:11] <charlie-tca> kubuntu has had a ton of changes this week
[17:14] <davmor2> ubiquity is a bit screwy it still works it just doesn't look pretty
[17:15] <davmor2> charlie-tca: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/kde4of6.png and kde5of6.png
[17:17] <charlie-tca> oh-h nice!
[17:17] <davmor2> pretty hey
[17:18] <charlie-tca> Don't they use the same install as the rest?
[17:18] <charlie-tca> That does appear to need work
[17:18] <davmor2> charlie-tca: backend yes but the frontend is kde
[17:20] <davmor2> it should look pretty much the same as ubuntu and xubuntu's installer so on the first screen you should have 2 bars for the partition etc
[17:23] <davmor2> charlie-tca: it's cause it uses qt and not gtk for gfx so there are 2 frontends
[17:23] <charlie-tca> That makes sense to me. Thanks
[17:24] <charlie-tca> I don't do any kubuntu installs, the few times I tried kde I got lost
[17:26] <davmor2> it's the one bar isn't it :)
[17:42] <davmor2> stgraber: how do you get non standard characters up in vista do you know?
[17:42] <stgraber> no idea, that was XP
[17:42] <davmor2> meh
[17:43] <davmor2> do you know how to do it xp then?
[17:44] <davmor2> tea back in a bit
[17:45] <cgregan> cr3: ping
[17:52] <cr3> cgregan: pong
[17:58] <cgregan> cr3: How are you? I have a question about the certification process
[17:59] <cr3> cgregan: sure, shoot
[18:00] <cgregan> Is the checkbox version used for cert easy to move around.....I ask because I want to install it on a system that is not connected to ubuntu standard repos.
[18:00] <cr3> cgregan: not sure what you mean by "move around"
[18:01] <cgregan> cr3: it is not installed on our builds so I need to add it without connecting to an online source for the packages
[18:02] <cgregan> cr3: is it one deb or does is involve several in which case I may want to move it once to a repo
[18:03] <cr3> cgregan: each project (checkbox, checkbox-compatibility and checkbox-certification) consist of three packages: the base (eg. checkbox) and a couple interfaces (eg. cli and/or gtk)
[18:03] <cr3> cgregan: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:04] <cr3> cgregan: if it's not connected to ubuntu standard, could it be connected to another repo?
[18:04] <cgregan> cr3: I want to run the certification on a system that it is not installed on by default. And I cannot connect it to the Ubuntu repos to apt-get the packages.....so need to know if I can grab them and install from USB
[18:04] <cr3> cgregan: the checkbox packages are now available under a protected repo rather than individual packages, might that be useful for you?
[18:04] <cgregan> cr3: ah that is better....what is that repo?
[18:05] <cr3> cgregan: ah, this needs to be done by usb, right?
[18:05] <cr3> cgregan: https://certification.canonical.com/home/compatibility-testing
[18:05] <cgregan> cr3: Does not need to be...just want to prevent the system from accidentally being corrupted by other packages
[18:05] <cgregan> cool
[18:06] <cr3> cgregan: that's not the repo though, it'll just give you the proper url for the proper release
[18:06] <cr3> cgregan: cool! so you should be all set with that repo then, what a fortunate coincidence that I implemented this repo so recently :)
[18:06] <cr3> cgregan: in case the https poses a problem, the repo is also available under http
[18:06] <cgregan> cr3: thanks.....do I need a login to that url?
[18:07] <cr3> cgregan: the url I pasted in the channel or the url provided in the compatibility testing page?
[18:07] <cgregan> pasted in channel
[18:08] <cr3> cgregan: yep, that's private because certification is a commercial service... kinda outside the scope of this channel :)