| nineteenfingers | hey folks, thought i'd ask this again before i head off... is there a quick (and preferably easy) way to search for duplicate files within a folder on a mounted NTFS partition? | 00:42 |
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| cody-somerville | nineteenfingers, yup | 00:52 |
| cody-somerville | nineteenfingers, You could generate an md5sum for all the files and look for duplicates | 00:52 |
| nineteenfingers | forgive my ignorance here - i've never done anything with md5sums before - but i've got 15.3 GB of files (18545 items) i need to compare - is doing that (creating the sums and looking for duplicates) an automatic procedure or something i'd have to do file by file? | 00:56 |
| cody-somerville | nineteenfingers, Are all the files in a single directory? | 00:57 |
| HazimG | is there an alternative to gsynaptics-mcs-plugin in xubuntu 9.04? | 00:58 |
| cody-somerville | HazimG, what are you trying to do? | 00:58 |
| HazimG | mostly just disable tapping, scrolling, that sort of thing | 00:59 |
| nineteenfingers | cody-somerville many subdirectories of a single directory... all of the files are in sub-directories in a single directory i've called "BackupStuff" on an XP user's desktop (mounted to /mnt) | 00:59 |
| cody-somerville | nineteenfingers, http://code.activestate.com/recipes/551777/ <-- seems like a great script here | 00:59 |
| HazimG | weird | 00:59 |
| HazimG | mostly just disable tapping and scrolling | 01:00 |
| cody-somerville | nineteenfingers, It'll need some modification to be recursive though. I could help you with that. | 01:00 |
| HazimG | I know I could do it via a synclient script, but I was wondering if there was a gui tool available / in the works | 01:00 |
| cody-somerville | HazimG, hmm... | 01:00 |
| cody-somerville | JPohlmann, Do you know? | 01:01 |
| JPohlmann | Hm, no. There's no replacement for gsynaptics-mcs-plugin. But maybe there are other GTK+ tools for synaptics touch pads. | 01:02 |
| nineteenfingers | sounds like a fun project - a couple of issues though... 1> my coding skills barely get past "hello world" and even that's not in Python. 2> i'm working on a live disk so not entirely sure how useful i'd be in the process of modifying it and 3> i was hoping for something pretty quick - this is all for a repair job i'm doing on someone's XP system - i can't say i fancy sinking much time into coding a script (or getting someone els | 01:03 |
| nineteenfingers | e to do so) - i'm just trying to reduce the size of the backup i need to make (currently looking at about 6 hours to transfer everything to another machine - anything that wasn't very quick would be a false economy) | 01:03 |
| HazimG | well there's gsynaptics, but it doesn't load the settings at the start of the session like gsynaptics-mcs-plugin did | 01:03 |
| nineteenfingers | cody-somerville - that said... i probably would like a project like that if i had the time - it just seems kinda overkill for a single task i have to do today or tomorrow :p | 01:03 |
| nineteenfingers | oh and i know 3 isn't a couple - haha | 01:04 |
| cody-somerville | nineteenfingers, Making it recursive would probably only take me a few seconds | 01:04 |
| HazimG | the plugin itself is only 2kb, and most of it is just #includes, so I believe it would be trivial to convert it from using mcs to xconf, but I'm not certain | 01:05 |
| nineteenfingers | right - well there's still another issue to consider - might be a biggie - i'm using a live disk and the system is pretty gutless (only 256MB RAM) - even if I had a way to compile the code I don't think it'd be up t the job and would need doing again if the system crashed for any reason (it has a few times so far when i try to ask too much of it) | 01:06 |
| nineteenfingers | sorry don't think the hardware would be up to the job of compiling it... and would need to recompile every time if it crashed - my wording wasn't too clear first time | 01:07 |
| nineteenfingers | maybe i'm wrong about the hardware though - i'm not exactly experienced with such matters | 01:07 |
| cody-somerville | python is interpreted and not compiled | 01:07 |
| cody-somerville | However, I do suspect the script will take a long time to complete based on the information you've provided - lots of data to look at. | 01:08 |
| nineteenfingers | yea - just read the "Discussion" on the bottom of that page - it sounds like a great script - very useful when you need it - but likely to give this machine a pretty severe headache | 01:09 |
| nineteenfingers | think i might just back up the whole 15.3 gig and move onto something a touch more productive like actually earning money (sometimes it sucks being the one in the family who can struggle away and fix a computer) | 01:10 |
| nineteenfingers | hmm... if i'm on a machine with just 1 optical drive, running linux from a live cd, is it possible to burn a dvd under linux on that machine or can i not remove the linux live disk? | 01:12 |
| nineteenfingers | probably gonna be quickest to just drop these files onto a few DVD-RWs | 01:12 |
| cody-somerville | You can not remove the disk | 01:12 |
| nineteenfingers | thought that might be the case | 01:13 |
| cody-somerville | Although there are linux distributions can do that | 01:13 |
| cody-somerville | Like recovery ones | 01:13 |
| cody-somerville | But I dunno if burning would work | 01:13 |
| HazimG | I use slax for that sort of thing | 01:13 |
| HazimG | there's a toram option that loads the OS to ram so you can remove the disc | 01:14 |
| HazimG | though I think knoppix and dsl have similar options | 01:14 |
| nineteenfingers | hmm - might be worth a look - though for time (downloading an iso, burning it, booting to it, mounting the drive and finally burning the disks - it might actually work out quicker and easier to just do the 6 hour network transfer i'm trying to avoid | 01:14 |
| cody-somerville | Might just be easier to buy a new hard drive :P | 01:15 |
| nineteenfingers | HazimG - think i've got a DSL disk around here that might be good for that | 01:15 |
| HazimG | the only thing is I don't know if dsl has python | 01:15 |
| HazimG | you just need to mount a partition and burn it to a disc or do a network transfer is it? | 01:16 |
| nineteenfingers | haha! yea - it would be FAR easier to get a new drive - i don't think the owner has the money for one though - and after this i'll have no use for another drive until mine dies on me | 01:16 |
| HazimG | is it an ntfs partition or an ext2/3 partition? | 01:17 |
| nineteenfingers | HazimG - need to get a 15.3GB folder off a hard drive in one machine so i can do a system recovery on it after one of its users riddled it with malware and rendered it unusable - ntfs partition | 01:17 |
| HazimG | ah | 01:17 |
| HazimG | yeah | 01:17 |
| HazimG | you can build a slax image with ntfs-3g and that sort of thing | 01:18 |
| HazimG | it has a web interface for adding your own packages to the image | 01:18 |
| HazimG | do you need to transfer it to another windows machine? | 01:18 |
| nineteenfingers | HazimG - I can either put it onto a shared folder i've got on another windows machine or put it onto DVDRWs - either way i don't mind as long as it needs minimal input from me and doesn't take eons to do... oh - and it all needs to come back the other way once i've straightened out the affected windowns machine too | 01:20 |
| HazimG | well tbh, transferring it to another windows machine over SMB is going to be a pain on any live linux distro | 01:21 |
| HazimG | perhaps we should take this to #xubuntu-offtopic since this isn't about xubuntu itself | 01:22 |
| nineteenfingers | as it stands i'm now set up to make the transfer directly from machine to machine using xubuntu on the affected machine - probably gonna just get it going now and head to bed while it does its thing | 01:23 |
| nineteenfingers | could do with some sleep anyway - multitasking when out like a light can only be a good thing :) | 01:24 |
| HazimG | mmm | 01:24 |
| HazimG | cody-somerville : xubuntu doesn't come with an ftp client, does it? | 01:24 |
| cody-somerville | correct | 01:25 |
| HazimG | because it would be way less of a pain to just set up a passworded ftp server on the target machine, mount the ntfs partition on the affected machine, and transfer everything over ftp (if it was over a LAN) | 01:26 |
| nineteenfingers | it is over a LAN (affected machine ethernet to router... target machine wireless to router) | 01:26 |
| HazimG | mmm | 01:27 |
| HazimG | you'd need a livecd with an ftp client though | 01:27 |
| nineteenfingers | could install a small ftp client (if there is such a thing) on affected machine though - i do have internet access through xubuntu on there now | 01:28 |
| cody-somerville | You can install an ftp client once you boot the live filesystem | 01:28 |
| nineteenfingers | no idea how to go about setting up ftp server on target though | 01:28 |
| HazimG | there's plenty of "free" ftp servers for windows | 01:29 |
| cody-somerville | I think SMB is probably the right answer. | 01:29 |
| zoredache | why not start an ssh server on your livecd, and pull with winscp/filezilla? | 01:29 |
| HazimG | mmm | 01:30 |
| HazimG | does thunar-vfs support smb? | 01:30 |
| cody-somerville | No | 01:31 |
| HazimG | if thunar-vfs is what I'm thinking it is | 01:31 |
| HazimG | you could always install pyneighborhood then | 01:31 |
| HazimG | simple tool that lets you mount smb shares | 01:31 |
| nineteenfingers | are any of these alternative approaches/suggestions likely to be any quicker than using pyneighbourhood to mount a share from the target machine and drag+dropping the directory from the affected NTFS partition to the target share? | 01:32 |
| HazimG | nope | 01:32 |
| HazimG | pyneighborhood would be quickest | 01:32 |
| cody-somerville | nah | 01:32 |
| cody-somerville | Use sambafs :P | 01:32 |
| fdemocracy | hi guys. will be installing xubuntu on the netbook | 01:33 |
| nineteenfingers | in that case i'm gonna go with that - i'd love to have a play with some of these alternatives but now i'm at the point of "if it works..." | 01:33 |
| fdemocracy | im cheap.im poor and i hate paying for hardware and that is why i got a netbook | 01:33 |
| cody-somerville | fdemocracy, :) | 01:34 |
| nineteenfingers | cody-somerville - hahaha! if i had a clue how to use that command i might go that way - the ease pyneighborhood brings is right up my inexperienced alley | 01:34 |
| cody-somerville | If you can get pyneighborhood to work for ya, w00t w00t | 01:35 |
| minazo | xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386 comes with Perl 5.10 already installed doesn't it? | 01:40 |
| cody-somerville | Correct | 01:40 |
| minazo | Yeah, that was pretty cool and shocking. I was just trying out http://wubi-installer.org/ on my windows machine today and noticed that perl -v was 5.10. I am using a low spec machine now running CentOS, but that's just too cool not to try and replace my CentOS with it. It's fast as heck too. Thanks. | 01:44 |
| cody-somerville | Why shocking? | 01:44 |
| minazo | Why was it shocking? I didn't realize that the distro had 5.10 installed by default. Most of what I've installed lately, came with 5.8.8 and it's a headache having 2 seperate "perls" on a machine... then trying to use CPAN along with it..etc..etc...plus, it was faster that I thought...I haven't been a linux user for long...maybe a only a year... | 01:48 |
| * cody-somerville nods. | 01:51 | |
| nineteenfingers | well - the transfer is underway (used pyneighborhood to a windows share, mounted the NTFS partition and drag-drop copied the huge folder across) might be quicker than i expected though - the copy dialog is dithering between 3 and 4 hours remaining as opposed to the 6 i thought it'd be from my earlier abandoned attempt | 01:51 |
| nineteenfingers | lost a word there - "used pyneighborhood to MOUNT a windows share" | 01:51 |
| nineteenfingers | and on that note - i'm off to get some sleep - goodnight all and thanks for your help and suggestions earlier - talk soon | 01:53 |
| HazimG | good luck with the transfer | 01:54 |
| nineteenfingers | cheers | 01:54 |
| === cyzie_ is now known as cyzie | ||
| BigMoopies | Is it possible to actually share clipboards between virtualbox and the original OS? I have it set to "directional" but it doesn't work. | 02:01 |
| charlie-tca | BigMoopies: You need guest additions installed | 02:02 |
| BigMoopies | charlie-tca, how do I install that ? | 02:02 |
| charlie-tca | where did you get VirtualBox, website or repository? | 02:03 |
| BigMoopies | website , latest version | 02:03 |
| BigMoopies | or atleast 2.1.4 | 02:03 |
| BigMoopies | deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian hardy non-free | 02:04 |
| BigMoopies | in the apt/sources | 02:04 |
| NTFS | STOP LEAVING YOUR COMPUTERS ON 24/7 YOU ARE CREATING OVER 1000kg OF C02 EMISSIONS A YEAR. | 02:04 |
| BigMoopies | (is how I got it) | 02:04 |
| BigMoopies | wow | 02:04 |
| charlie-tca | I think they should be in /usr/share/virtualbox/ | 02:04 |
| charlie-tca | it is called VBoxGuestAdditions.iso | 02:05 |
| BigMoopies | what do I do? | 02:05 |
| NTFS | !ops NTFS | 02:05 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ops NTFS | 02:05 |
| BigMoopies | I see it | 02:05 |
| NTFS | !ops | 02:05 |
| ubottu | ops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville | 02:05 |
| cody-somerville | hmmm | 02:05 |
| charlie-tca | What is it? | 02:05 |
| NTFS | STOP LEAVING YOUR COMPUTERS ON 24/7 YOU ARE CREATING OVER 1000kg OF C02 EMISSIONS A YEAR. | 02:05 |
| BigMoopies | "nls rdesktop-vrdp-keymaps rdesktop-vrdp.tar.gz src VBoxGuestAdditions.iso VBoxSysInfo.sh" | 02:05 |
| charlie-tca | cody-somerville: NTFS got kicked from #ubuntu+1 a minute ago | 02:06 |
| cody-somerville | and now he is banned from Freenode :) | 02:06 |
| BigMoopies | What do I do with the ISO ? | 02:07 |
| charlie-tca | BigMoopies: you add it as a cd in the virtual machine, then go to /media/cdrom and look for the additions.linux file to run | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | Run it in a terminal window | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | in the VirtualBox machine | 02:08 |
| BigMoopies | OK, so I need to mount the ISO as the CD-ROM drive so Windows XP picks it up ? | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | Your virtualbox is in windows? then yes | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | and run the exe file | 02:09 |
| mrwes | Ubuntu user here, using Xubuntu for the first time; I noticed the desktop icons for Network and Computer run Nautilus, but Places | Home run thunar -- why is that? | 02:11 |
| charlie-tca | because Xfce does not use Nautilus | 02:11 |
| charlie-tca | Nautilus and Thunar are both file managers. | 02:12 |
| mrwes | yes I understand that | 02:12 |
| BigMoopies | charlie-tca, So I can now unmount the ISO and put it back to normal CD-ROM drive now that the stuff is installed ? | 02:12 |
| charlie-tca | yes, BigMoopies | 02:12 |
| mrwes | I'm running Xfce now, and Nautilus runs when I open my cifs shares and/or Network icon | 02:12 |
| BigMoopies | BTW: what is "passthrough" ? | 02:12 |
| charlie-tca | Because thunar doesn't have them and doesn't know what to do with it. | 02:13 |
| mrwes | ahh | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | BigMoopies: I use it to access cd's on the hardware drive. | 02:13 |
| mrwes | so it's 'normal' aye? | 02:13 |
| mrwes | heh | 02:13 |
| BigMoopies | so should I allow it or keep it unchecked ? | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | It maeans it sees the cd without questioning the os the VBox runs in seeing the cd | 02:14 |
| charlie-tca | Boy, did I screw that up | 02:14 |
| BigMoopies | LOL. | 02:14 |
| charlie-tca | It lets the VBox see the cd without the Xubuntu seeing it also | 02:14 |
| charlie-tca | Without passthrough, when I put a cd in, both my desktop and VBox see it. With it, only VBox sees it when it is running. | 02:15 |
| BigMoopies | charlie-tca, now that I installed the guest stuff, Windows' highest res is 800x600 , anyway to fix that ? | 02:17 |
| BigMoopies | any way | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | run the guest additions again | 02:18 |
| charlie-tca | I never ran windows in a VBox. But you should be able to raise resolution to match the normal desktop with it. | 02:18 |
| charlie-tca | It is the only way I ever got 1400x900 in VBox | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | BigMoopies: have you looked at the manual yet? /usr/share/doc/virtualbox/UserManual.pdf | 02:21 |
| BigMoopies | charlie-tca, for some reason I'm not able to slide it more than 800x600 | 02:25 |
| BigMoopies | with the new 'driver' | 02:25 |
| charlie-tca | hmmm, "you may also open the Windows Device Manager and select "Update driver..."for | 02:28 |
| charlie-tca | The VirtualBox Graphics Adapter | 02:28 |
| charlie-tca | Wonder if that needs to be run for windows? | 02:28 |
| BigMoopies | " you can resize the virtual machine’s window, | 02:28 |
| BigMoopies | and the video resolution in the guest will be automatically adjusted (as if you | 02:28 |
| BigMoopies | had manually entered an arbitrary resolution in the guest’s display settings). | 02:28 |
| BigMoopies | For Linux and Solaris guests, the Xorg server version 1.3 or later is required for | 02:28 |
| BigMoopies | " | 02:28 |
| BigMoopies | gah | 02:28 |
| BigMoopies | too many lines | 02:28 |
| charlie-tca | So by adjusting the window size, it adjusts the resolution | 02:29 |
| charlie-tca | Makes it fit the size of the window | 02:29 |
| BigMoopies | yeah but it don't | 02:30 |
| charlie-tca | Also, right-ctrl + L seems to adjust the size to full screen and back to a window | 02:31 |
| BigMoopies | I just have it stuck at 800x600 in the middle of the screen | 02:31 |
| charlie-tca | does the clipboard work? | 02:32 |
| BigMoopies | yes | 02:32 |
| charlie-tca | well.... | 02:32 |
| charlie-tca | Looks to me like windows just doesn't really listen | 02:33 |
| charlie-tca | Let me look at the VBox forums | 02:33 |
| BigMoopies | what in the world did seemless mode just do | 02:34 |
| charlie-tca | seemless says run windows in a window, and use the linux desktop at the same time | 02:34 |
| charlie-tca | and pass things back and forth, I think | 02:35 |
| BigMoopies | now it's 1024x710 res. | 02:35 |
| BigMoopies | with seemless | 02:35 |
| charlie-tca | Stretch the window and see what it does | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | also, can ask in #vbox for help beyond me | 02:37 |
| BigMoopies | it might be working now that I went in to seemless then to full screen | 02:39 |
| BigMoopies | seemless , unseemless, full screen | 02:39 |
| BigMoopies | rather | 02:39 |
| BigMoopies | I'm shutting it down and trying it again to see | 02:39 |
| BigMoopies | yeah now it resizes how it's supposed to to fit my real OS | 02:41 |
| BigMoopies | kuhraaaaaazy. | 02:41 |
| charlie-tca | so it is working? | 02:41 |
| BigMoopies | Yes, magically | 02:41 |
| charlie-tca | not so magic. You did it! | 02:41 |
| BigMoopies | Yay! | 02:42 |
| BigMoopies | now I just wonder if I need to install some anti-virus to slow the virtualbox down to a crawl | 02:42 |
| BigMoopies | just like real windows | 02:42 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. I don't have windows. If it gets infected, you can delete the vbox drive to get rid of it. It is a file. | 02:43 |
| BigMoopies | yeah, but I don't wanna redo all my mIRC scripts | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | but if you send emails from it, you can infect others | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | Think viruses, then | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | It is windows, after all | 02:44 |
| charlie-tca | Anything that hits windows, hits windows in a virtual machine, too | 02:45 |
| BigMoopies | yeah, that's why I stopped using windows in the first place. I got tired of installing all that stuff then it taking 3-5 mins to load up on restart | 02:45 |
| BigMoopies | I wonder with the new virtualbox driver, would it be possible to run games just like real windows ? | 02:47 |
| BigMoopies | giving virtualbox more video RAM that is | 02:47 |
| charlie-tca | possible, I think. Might run slow, though | 02:48 |
| charlie-tca | I do 4 installs at a time here, but it ties up my dsl real bad | 02:48 |
| BigMoopies | that's what I thought. | 02:48 |
| charlie-tca | Of course, I usually have one more hardware install running, and two systems I am using, too | 02:49 |
| charlie-tca | kind of frustrating when daughter says her browser is slowww | 02:49 |
| BigMoopies | I only have 425 MBs per any given 24 hours in daytime hours | 02:49 |
| BigMoopies | then 1-6 AM is unlimited usage for my ISP | 02:49 |
| charlie-tca | I pay a bunch, to have a full-time 7mbs connection | 02:50 |
| BigMoopies | Wildblue doesn't have anything like that, that I am aware of.. And they are capped by month | 02:50 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I got no caps, but it is not cheap, either | 02:50 |
| BigMoopies | I pay $80 for Hughesnet | 02:51 |
| BigMoopies | pro plus plan | 02:51 |
| charlie-tca | $130 for quest | 02:51 |
| BigMoopies | DSL is 2 miles up the road | 02:51 |
| BigMoopies | along with cable | 02:51 |
| BigMoopies | in the city limits | 02:51 |
| charlie-tca | CableOne wanted about 1/2 of that, but they cap you if you download too much. | 02:51 |
| charlie-tca | Bad deal when I test the ISO images daily | 02:52 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe mine is cheap for what I get? | 02:53 |
| BigMoopies | we have Suddenlink and AT&T DSL | 02:53 |
| charlie-tca | I hear AT&T is not very good | 02:53 |
| BigMoopies | ATT hasn't extended the DSL coverage south for us | 02:53 |
| BigMoopies | It'd beat 15 KB/sec in daytime hours I bet. | 02:53 |
| BigMoopies | and paying $80 | 02:54 |
| BigMoopies | and a cap.. | 02:54 |
| charlie-tca | It might. cap would probably stay, but it is higher, I think. speed should increase, though | 02:54 |
| BigMoopies | Maybe Obama will fix it (yeah right) | 02:55 |
| charlie-tca | hold your breath? | 02:55 |
| charlie-tca | LOL | 02:55 |
| charlie-tca | Can't convince AT&T to bring DSL down, huh? | 02:56 |
| BigMoopies | no, or Suddenlink. Even though we got Sat Internet and Sat TV all out here. | 02:57 |
| BigMoopies | Suddenlink would be an obviously great competitor | 02:57 |
| BigMoopies | idiots | 02:57 |
| charlie-tca | Well, my brother could not get natural gas, even though it was at his neighbors, 25 feet away. | 02:57 |
| charlie-tca | He was not within the company policy | 02:57 |
| BigMoopies | LOL,. We had to pay 1,200something to get BiCounty (like city water) ran to our house from about 200 feet. | 02:58 |
| BigMoopies | Then we had to pay for a plumber to get it from the road to the house | 02:58 |
| BigMoopies | (their meter ) | 02:58 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, they got ya, coming and going | 02:59 |
| BigMoopies | so if the neighbors down the road get it, we just saved them a bundle | 02:59 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I gotta go. long day today. | 02:59 |
| BigMoopies | from having to tap on to it from where it was to their house | 02:59 |
| charlie-tca | That's true. Maybe get with them to get AT&T? | 03:00 |
| kromar | do divx streams work with xubuntu? | 03:26 |
| loren_ | can someone help me to delete a file that keeps telling me permission denied it's a backup file I think from sbackup I tried sudo rm but I'm not good at command line commands in terminal how can I get rid of this file even though there is nothing in it and do I have to put sbackup back into my computer to get rid of the file? | 03:49 |
| cody-somerville | loren_, Whats the path to the file? | 03:49 |
| loren_ | home/loren/Computer Backup Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful | 03:51 |
| loren_ | do you need the drive letter? | 03:53 |
| HazimG | sudo rm /home/loren/Computer\ Backup\ Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful | 03:54 |
| HazimG | should work | 03:54 |
| loren_ | I will try it | 03:54 |
| homebrewcider | anybody had any luck printing on a cd in xubuntu? | 03:54 |
| loren_ | I get this loren@loren-desktop:~$ sudo rm /home/loren/Computer\ Backup\ Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful | 03:56 |
| loren_ | [sudo] password for loren: | 03:56 |
| loren_ | rm: cannot remove `/home/loren/Computer Backup Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful': Is a directory | 03:56 |
| loren_ | loren@loren-desktop:~$ | 03:56 |
| HazimG | ah | 03:57 |
| cody-somerville | loren_, ah | 03:57 |
| cody-somerville | You're attempting to delete a directory instead of a file. | 03:57 |
| HazimG | it's just like it says, it's a directory | 03:57 |
| cody-somerville | sudo rm -rf /home/loren/Computer\ Backup\ Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful <-- should do the trick | 03:57 |
| loren_ | o-k I will try it | 03:58 |
| cody-somerville | Be careful! | 03:58 |
| loren_ | It worked thank you very much I have tried for weeks to get rid of it thank you again | 04:00 |
| loren_ | I'm new to chat also:) | 04:01 |
| loren_ | thank you | 04:01 |
| martinx73 | hi | 04:44 |
| martinx73 | please i need help to install a web cam | 04:44 |
| martinx73 | lsusb | 04:45 |
| martinx73 | ID 093a:2472 Pixart Imaging, Inc. | 04:45 |
| zoredache | !webcam | 04:47 |
| ubottu | Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras | 04:47 |
| zoredache | have you read those pages yet? | 04:47 |
| martinx73 | thanks, now reading | 04:48 |
| J_Litewski | how do i reset the gdm? | 04:52 |
| J_Litewski | since i removed it to fix my problem | 04:52 |
| zoredache | J_Litewski: did you get it all fixed? | 04:57 |
| J_Litewski | yea | 04:58 |
| J_Litewski | it's running like new now | 04:58 |
| J_Litewski | it was a tiny bug in xfce 4.6.0 that sometimes caused sessions not to delete | 04:59 |
| zoredache | anyway, in a terminal first do this command 'cd /etc/rc2.d' then do this 'sudo ln -s ../init.d/gdm' | 04:59 |
| J_Litewski | ok | 05:01 |
| J_Litewski | thank you for all of your help zoredache | 05:06 |
| J_Litewski | brb | 05:08 |
| J_Litewski | that didn't work | 05:16 |
| zoredache | did you get an error when you ran the command? | 05:17 |
| J_Litewski | i wonder if my video card doesn't support dual display output | 05:20 |
| J_Litewski | zoredache, no it ran fine, still didn't get a login screen though | 05:20 |
| zoredache | try it this way then... sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults 30 01 | 05:23 |
| fdemocracy | so xubuntu didnt install over the usb stick | 05:27 |
| fdemocracy | im disappointed | 05:27 |
| J_Litewski1 | that was weird | 05:27 |
| fdemocracy | "cant detect cdrom" | 05:27 |
| J_Litewski1 | who else is having problems with updating sources? | 05:28 |
| fdemocracy | just you ;) | 05:29 |
| J_Litewski1 | huh | 05:29 |
| J_Litewski1 | that's really weird | 05:29 |
| * J_Litewski1 smacks Charter Communications | 05:29 | |
| J_Litewski1 | work! | 05:29 |
| J_Litewski1 | :P | 05:29 |
| J_Litewski1 | that did it | 05:30 |
| fdemocracy | well at least you got it running | 05:30 |
| J_Litewski1 | lol | 05:30 |
| fdemocracy | and i mean ubuntu | 05:30 |
| J_Litewski1 | i had it running for a while, it's just the curve balls that get you | 05:30 |
| J_Litewski1 | like the whole 'lets spawn 200 xfdesktop4's and overwork xorg to the point of near Hard Drive failure' | 05:31 |
| J_Litewski1 | what is wobbly windows? | 05:44 |
| zoredache | it makes thinks act like jello when you move them around... | 05:52 |
| J_Litewski1 | but it don't work with xfwm4, do it? | 05:53 |
| zoredache | not sure, I have never cared enough to try it | 05:53 |
| zoredache | !compiz | 05:53 |
| ubottu | Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz-fusion | 05:53 |
| zoredache | I prefer to have my computer actually be using cpu cycles on actually doing useful things.... | 05:54 |
| J_Litewski1 | yea | 05:54 |
| J_Litewski1 | just an ADD moment thing | 05:55 |
| J_Litewski1 | well, i'm off | 05:55 |
| sketchykid | hello? | 06:58 |
| sketchykid | quick question...ummm i'm kinda new to this linux thing, and my old thinkpad has a dvd-rom but for some reason i can't seem to play any of my dvd....anyone know why that is?? | 07:00 |
| sketchykid | okay i thought i had it there, if anyone here can help me i'm all ears...or eyes i guess lol | 07:23 |
| sketchykid | S.O.S My dvd-rom won't play my dvd's S.O.S!! | 07:25 |
| sketchykid | do i need a different program maybe???...right now all i have is Totem | 07:25 |
| cody-somerville | !dvd | sketchykid | 07:48 |
| ubottu | sketchykid: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 07:48 |
| Ecnerifed | Hi all, I need to set up a few workstations with nothing but firefox and the abilty to lock with a login screen that authenticates with an ms active directory server, what would be the best way to go about this? | 07:52 |
| xsteadfastx | where can i change the timezone? | 08:02 |
| xsteadfastx | im in germany right now and i goes one hour forward | 08:02 |
| cody-somerville | Applications > System > Date & Time | 08:03 |
| xsteadfastx | there i set my time to europe/berlin | 08:04 |
| xsteadfastx | but its still one hour forward | 08:04 |
| cody-somerville | To make it automatically update your time, you need to enable the ntp server sync | 08:05 |
| xsteadfastx | it is ntp | 08:05 |
| xsteadfastx | and the ntp server is right | 08:05 |
| cody-somerville | Then just wait for it to update :) | 08:05 |
| xsteadfastx | it shows CEST for germany. it should be GMT+1 | 08:06 |
| roman | hello everyone. is there a way to keep the menu structure in xfce 4.6? i've understood that i have to change the .desktop, .menu and .directory files by hand (e.g. to open up a new category), but when these packages are updated, the .desktop files of them revert back to normal, making it quite impossible to retain a certain menu state. how can i prohibit this? | 10:25 |
| roman | sorry to flood, but is there a way to keep the menu structure in xfce 4.6? i've understood that i have to change the .desktop, .menu and .directory files by hand (e.g. to open up a new category), but when these packages are updated, the .desktop files of them revert back to normal, making it quite impossible to retain a certain menu state. how can i prohibit this? | 10:45 |
| TheSheep | modify the local copies in your ~/.config | 10:46 |
| roman | well... now that's an easy solution :) you mean that i should place the altered copies inside .local/share/applications ? because i can't find a suitable folder inside /.config | 10:52 |
| TheSheep | yeah, for .desktop files | 10:53 |
| TheSheep | you can also alter the rules that govern categories in .config/menu | 10:53 |
| wtv | desktop icons disappeared and wallpaper turned black suddenly in xfce 4. any ideas? | 10:56 |
| wtv | i tried restarting but again i get iconless black desktop. i see all the panels though | 10:57 |
| cody-somerville | wtv, press alt + f2, and type xfdesktop4 | 10:58 |
| roman | @ TheSheep: I don't understand your last solution... my guess would be to create .local/share/desktop-directories and copy the categories there | 10:58 |
| roman | i don't understand because i have no ./config/menu :) | 10:58 |
| wtv | cody-somerville: it says the file doesn't exist | 10:59 |
| cody-somerville | oops | 11:00 |
| cody-somerville | just xfdesktop | 11:00 |
| wtv | cody-somerville: it worked! but will it work everytime on start up? | 11:00 |
| cody-somerville | wtv, if you save your session on logout, yup | 11:01 |
| wtv | cody-somerville: can i make it so that it starts autmatically when starting a session? | 11:02 |
| wtv | without having saved it before. i know how to do it in gnome but I'm new to xfce | 11:03 |
| cody-somerville | I don't know if you want that. It might start the desktop again, not sure. | 11:04 |
| wtv | cody-somerville: k. but thanks ^ ^ | 11:04 |
| l403 | hello | 11:38 |
| l403 | I after failing to make a bootable USB I just blindly followed this tutorial http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/#more-408 | 11:39 |
| l403 | everything seemed to be fine but all i ended up with is ash :/ | 11:40 |
| l403 | ah, nm, sry | 11:41 |
| l403 | minimal 384 Meg, I dont have :/ | 11:41 |
| Pres-Gas | Hey all! | 13:51 |
| cody-somerville | Heya | 13:51 |
| Pres-Gas | I am really disapointed that I have not been able to test for this beta. | 13:52 |
| cody-somerville | : ( | 13:52 |
| * Pres-Gas submits self to cody-somerville for appropriate reparations :P | 13:52 | |
| Pres-Gas | I have a class I am teaching...but after it is over...I will be able to dive in more...after next week w00t! | 13:53 |
| cody-somerville | :] | 13:53 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| |nineteenfingers | hey folks - i'm struggling a bit here... i tried to use catfish for this but that's just ended in a bug report so i'm trying to do it with "find" via terminal... i need to search the NTFS partition i have mounted at /mnt for all files with a given extension... some folder names contain spaces (Documents and Settings for example) but i can't seem to get the comman right - anyone able to help or suggest an alternative to catfish w | 15:19 |
| |nineteenfingers | hich will do the job in a gui? | 15:19 |
| |nineteenfingers | sorry. that should read "can't get the command right" | 15:21 |
| TheSheep | |nineteenfingers: find /mnt -name '*.ext' | 15:21 |
| |nineteenfingers | TheSheep, need the ' around *.ext? | 15:22 |
| TheSheep | yes | 15:22 |
| TheSheep | especially if you have any .ext files in the current dir | 15:22 |
| |nineteenfingers | and that'll search all the subdirs will it? | 15:22 |
| TheSheep | yes | 15:23 |
| |nineteenfingers | great - just what i needed - i couldn't wrap my head around it at all - i think i just don't learn well from man pages | 15:23 |
| TheSheep | find is horribly complicated | 15:24 |
| TheSheep | but it can do almost anything | 15:24 |
| |nineteenfingers | while i think on... when a command is running that's taking a long time (as searching an entire hard drive will) - is there a quick way to cancel it? | 15:24 |
| ablomen | ctrl+c | 15:25 |
| |nineteenfingers | yea - the man is pretty large | 15:25 |
| |nineteenfingers | cheers ablomen | 15:25 |
| |nineteenfingers | TheSheep - you've got me thinking now - "can do almost anything" - how about getting it to list every directory that contains a particular extension rather than listing all files with the extension? | 15:27 |
| |nineteenfingers | or is that asking a bit much? | 15:27 |
| TheSheep | |nineteenfingers: it's doable, but I can't tell you the command without some research in the documentation -- and I'm too lazy :) | 15:29 |
| |nineteenfingers | haha - i don't blame you there :p | 15:30 |
| TheSheep | you can add | grep 'word' to only list lines that contain the specified word | 15:30 |
| |nineteenfingers | i mean - "how could you! you *buntu types are supposed to be really helpful!" - haha | 15:30 |
| TheSheep | or grep -v 'word' to skip lines that contain it | 15:30 |
| ablomen | find ./Temp -name "*.jpg" | perl -e "while(<STDIN>){ print s/[a-z|A-Z|-|_]*\.jpg//$_; print $_ }" | sort | uniq | 15:48 |
| ablomen | sort of anyway ;) | 15:48 |
| ricochet | hey guys i need some help with some stuff, i put 9.04 on my dell mini and it runs great however i need some help with some tweaks | 15:53 |
| ricochet | i am new at linux so please take it slow | 15:53 |
| ricochet | ok so first how do i disable touchpad tapping and scrolling? | 15:55 |
| ricochet | anyone? | 15:57 |
| ricochet | touchpad scrolling and tapping.. how do i get rid of it? | 15:58 |
| zombor | can anyone help me out? i just ran a system update and now my system won't boot, it sits there and says "GRUB " but never shows the boot menu | 16:17 |
| TheSheep | zombor: boot from livecd, and select the recovery mode | 16:24 |
| TheSheep | zombor: can't remember the exact name of the option | 16:24 |
| zombor | TheSheep: thanks, someone also suggested this | 16:25 |
| zombor | http://microdotsagamedev.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/repair-your-grub-loader/ | 16:25 |
| TheSheep | yeah, that's what the menu-based recovery mode does | 16:26 |
| TheSheep | just automated | 16:26 |
| zombor | ah, ok | 16:26 |
| zombor | ill try that first then | 16:26 |
| nineteenfingers | flippin connection is all over the place | 16:40 |
| nineteenfingers | aaargh! | 16:42 |
| nineteenfingers | ablomen... in that find command you sent earler you had "while (<STDIN>)" - is it to be written like that or am I meant to put something else in place of <STDIN>? | 16:44 |
| TheSheep | it's like that | 16:44 |
| TheSheep | or you can use <> | 16:44 |
| TheSheep | that's perl's syntax for file handles | 16:45 |
| nineteenfingers | so just type it as written? | 16:45 |
| TheSheep | there are some mistakes in it | 16:46 |
| TheSheep | like, you need to double the \'s | 16:46 |
| nineteenfingers | just the backslash needs doubling or all the slashes too? | 16:52 |
| TheSheep | just backslash | 16:53 |
| nineteenfingers | well, the hard drive is crunching away, so it's doing SOMETHING - nothing coming up in terminal as yet though - we'll see what happens | 16:55 |
| TheSheep | perl is a little overkill for it | 16:58 |
| TheSheep | but should work | 16:58 |
| nineteenfingers | hmm - it's done something... it seems it's listed each directory that contains a .jpg and with each entry all the jpgs in that directory but missed the .jpg off the end - i need it to just give each directory path once and nothing more | 17:00 |
| nineteenfingers | it's a start though | 17:00 |
| nineteenfingers | all this because my aunt thinks there *might* be some pictures of her late father on the drive - as much as I agree that important stuff should be backed up - i don't have the heart to carry on with fixing this thing before i've made sure there aren't | 17:01 |
| ablomen | nineteenfingers, find ./Temp -name "*.jpg" | perl -e "while(<STDIN>){ print s/[a-z|A-Z|0-9|\-|_|\.]*\.jpg//$_; print $_ }" | sort | uniq | 17:07 |
| ablomen | that should do it | 17:07 |
| jurism | what's wrong if I can not reboot system? reboot works only by pressing reset button on PC case. shutdown command works fine but reboot stops processes (as usual, I have Ubuntu server 8.04LTS + xfce) and after stopping processes monitor shows xubuntu logo and loading abr stops and freezes computer. I can not find anything in /var/log/syslog or dmesg... | 17:07 |
| ablomen | and now i have to go :0 | 17:07 |
| ablomen | *:) | 17:07 |
| ablomen | bye | 17:07 |
| Ruadh | Hi | 17:08 |
| nineteenfingers | thanks ablomen :) | 17:08 |
| Ruadh | Hi Slonkie. How's things? | 17:09 |
| nineteenfingers | to ablomen or anyone lese (you might know TheSheep) - that command starts with "find ./Temp" - am I right in thinking I should be replacing that with /mnt if i'm searching the NTFS partition i've mounted to there? | 17:10 |
| nineteenfingers | else* | 17:10 |
| TheSheep | yes | 17:10 |
| nineteenfingers | and it should definitely be *\\.jpg and not *\.jpg yea? | 17:10 |
| TheSheep | yes | 17:11 |
| TheSheep | and \\- | 17:11 |
| nineteenfingers | ah - didn't spot that one - cheers | 17:11 |
| nineteenfingers | and \\. by the looks of it | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | jurism: sounds like power manager is involved. Anything in ~/.xsessions-error log? | 17:13 |
| nineteenfingers | TheSheep - your simple find command earlier had '.EXT' - ablomen's has ".EXT" - are the two interchangable or does it matter which I use? | 17:14 |
| jurism | SOrry, I am now on WIndowsXP, I have turned off CPU power manager on startup... | 17:14 |
| jurism | I will check ~/.xsessions-error log as soon as I can | 17:14 |
| TheSheep | nineteenfingers: you should use single quotes in that case | 17:16 |
| nineteenfingers | i'm tempted to ask when i would use double quotes, but to be honest i feel somewhat out of my depth already - the answer might drown me completely! haha | 17:16 |
| BigMoopies | What day is Jaunty set for ? | 17:23 |
| TheSheep | !schedule | BigMoopies | 17:24 |
| ubottu | BigMoopies: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 17:24 |
| TheSheep | nineteenfingers: the difference between double quotes and single quotes is simply that in single quotes * is treated as * literally, and is not expanded to a list of files that match the pattern in the current directory | 17:25 |
| charlie-tca | Well, actually, April 23 | 17:25 |
| TheSheep | nineteenfingers: nots sure if that's helpful | 17:25 |
| BigMoopies | well those websites tell me nothing | 17:25 |
| BigMoopies | charlie-tca, OK | 17:25 |
| charlie-tca | !release | 17:26 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 17:26 |
| * charlie-tca can't remember it | 17:26 | |
| TheSheep | !jaunty | 17:26 |
| ubottu | Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support. | 17:26 |
| BigMoopies | I'm guessing it wont be worth going Hardy -> Intrepid -> Jaunty | 17:27 |
| BigMoopies | But rather just waiting on the next LTS | 17:27 |
| BigMoopies | Less there is some kind of big bad super speed up or something new worth using ? | 17:28 |
| cody-somerville | Jaunty has Xfce 4.6 | 17:29 |
| cody-somerville | It is *so* worth upgrading to Jaunty | 17:29 |
| BigMoopies | Intrepid was shot | 17:29 |
| TheSheep | cody-somerville: does it have menu editor? ;) | 17:29 |
| cody-somerville | Umm | 17:30 |
| * cody-somerville waves his hand, "These are not the droids you are looking for." | 17:30 | |
| BigMoopies | cody-somerville, What's the big bad booty daddy difference in 4.whatever and 4.6 ? | 17:30 |
| BigMoopies | 4.4.2 | 17:31 |
| BigMoopies | I think | 17:31 |
| cody-somerville | BigMoopies, http://www.xfce.org/about/tour | 17:31 |
| TheSheep | BigMoopies: rubberband selections on the desktop | 17:31 |
| BigMoopies | rubber who ? | 17:31 |
| BigMoopies | The sound mixer looks like a proper sound mixer too | 17:32 |
| TheSheep | it's unusable without a scrollwheel, actually | 17:32 |
| BigMoopies | I guess I'll have to try out Jaunty. | 17:33 |
| BigMoopies | I can always just load it up LIVE | 17:33 |
| BigMoopies | to see if it blows my hardware apart like Intrepid | 17:33 |
| jurism | charlie-tca: yes, I found one error in /home/myusername/.xsession-errors: gnome-system-monitor fatal IO error 11 resource temporary unavailable I had warning about SElinux was found but not enabled | 17:34 |
| BigMoopies | I still don't see Thunar being able to view the 'network' (samba, etc) | 17:35 |
| cody-somerville | Thats coming in 4.8 | 17:35 |
| cody-somerville | But there is a tool now in Xubuntu to do it | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | jurism: that should not be it | 17:38 |
| charlie-tca | Should still be able to restart | 17:39 |
| jurism | I don't think it is xfce/x-server problem because I manually start it when I want with sudo gdm... | 17:40 |
| jurism | reboot works if I enter safe mode... | 17:40 |
| J_P | hi all | 17:43 |
| J_P | People, why 8.10 don't have package mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-br ? | 17:44 |
| TheSheep | it doesn't have mozilla-firefox-locale-pt either | 17:45 |
| charlie-tca | jurism: are you restarting just the desktop? does a full system restart work? | 17:47 |
| TheSheep | J_P: it doesn't have any firefox locale packages | 17:48 |
| J_P | TheSheep: the old ubuntu has | 17:50 |
| J_P | old versions | 17:50 |
| jurism | I restart full system with command reboot but system hangs up with this command and do not restart. if I enter in safe mode (choosen from GRUB menu), "reboot" command works fine. when I start PC in safe mode between apache2 start and running local boot scripts I have: setting advenced power managment level to0xfe (254) | 18:03 |
| brandonban6 | hi, anyone use an online backup service with linux? | 18:33 |
| chewit | you could try DropBox | 18:34 |
| zoredache | jungledisk claims to have a linux client | 18:34 |
| zoredache | I haven't tried it yet | 18:34 |
| brandonban6 | thanks guys I'll look those up | 18:36 |
| jurism | Is there any place where can I get .deb package with newer linux kernel than it is available in synaptic (apt-get)? Thank You! Can I install kernel which is for Ubuntu 8.10 not Ubuntu 8.04LTS? | 19:01 |
| TheSheep | you can compile your own | 19:03 |
| Aqua21 | i need help | 19:24 |
| Aqua21 | please | 19:24 |
| zoredache | !ask | 19:24 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 19:24 |
| Aqua21 | How can I hear my music by phones in Xubuntu? | 19:25 |
| Aqua21 | they don't work | 19:25 |
| zoredache | do speakers work if you plug them in? | 19:25 |
| Aqua21 | only pc spakers work | 19:25 |
| Slonkie | tried looking in the mixer if it's muted? | 19:26 |
| Aqua21 | nothing that I plug there works | 19:26 |
| Aqua21 | How do I do that Slonkie? | 19:26 |
| Slonkie | what version are you using? | 19:26 |
| Aqua21 | 9.04 | 19:27 |
| Slonkie | in your tray isen't there an mixer icon? | 19:28 |
| Slonkie | Maybe i added mine manually. You can do that by right click > Add New Item > Mixer | 19:29 |
| Aqua21 | they are all ok I think | 19:31 |
| Aqua21 | but I still don't hear any sound... Sound goes through notbeook speakers | 19:31 |
| Slonkie | okay | 19:32 |
| Slonkie | Sorry i don't know then | 19:32 |
| Aqua21 | :( | 19:32 |
| SiDi | What's up ? | 19:32 |
| SiDi | Laptop + headset sound problem ? | 19:32 |
| Aqua21 | yes | 19:32 |
| Aqua21 | sound comes through the notebook speakers, instead my headset | 19:33 |
| SiDi | What's the model ? | 19:33 |
| Aqua21 | i have a VAIO VGN-FZ11S | 19:34 |
| Aqua21 | don't know the sound card model | 19:34 |
| SiDi | also, type the following commands and pastebin them : | 19:34 |
| SiDi | cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#* | grep Codec | 19:34 |
| SiDi | lspci | grep -i audio | 19:34 |
| Aqua21 | but in Windows, it's ok | 19:34 |
| SiDi | It's an ALSA driver configuration problem | 19:34 |
| Aqua21 | ok.. | 19:34 |
| SiDi | its configured generically, there are some adjustments we can do | 19:35 |
| SiDi | and on most laptops it works | 19:35 |
| Aqua21 | Codec: SigmaTel STAC9872AK | 19:36 |
| Aqua21 | Codec: Conexant ID 2c06 | 19:36 |
| Aqua21 | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) | 19:36 |
| SiDi | Okey, as expected :) | 19:36 |
| SiDi | just a second | 19:37 |
| Aqua21 | :D | 19:37 |
| SiDi | check for the file : /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base | 19:37 |
| SiDi | if you have it we're going to edit it, either we're going to setup a few more things before | 19:37 |
| Slonkie | is it the codec "Conexant ID 2x06" which is the problem, SiDi ? | 19:38 |
| Aqua21 | i have it | 19:38 |
| SiDi | Slonkie: no, it's just that hda intels need some adjustment | 19:39 |
| Aqua21 | how do I edit it? | 19:39 |
| Aqua21 | what do I do now? | 19:39 |
| SiDi | gksu mousepad /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base | 19:39 |
| SiDi | and you'll add at its end | 19:39 |
| SiDi | options snd-hda-intel model=vaio | 19:39 |
| SiDi | Then, reload the kernel module (i don't know how, so i usually just reboot my whole PC instead... *proud*) | 19:39 |
| SiDi | It should hopefully make the volume higher and fix that problem with the headset | 19:40 |
| SiDi | if it doesn't, we'll try another thing, and if this other thing doesn't work, blame alsa (AND sony !) | 19:40 |
| Slonkie | Can you see if the mine is correct? http://pastebin.com/m5db84de5 | 19:40 |
| Slonkie | I am having somehow the same problem | 19:40 |
| SiDi | Slonkie: "any" is correct ;p the commands are just to check that they have the same ALC version than those on ubuntu-fr.org's doc's list of alsa models | 19:41 |
| SiDi | Slonkie: what laptop do you have ? | 19:42 |
| Slonkie | Acer Aspire 4530 | 19:42 |
| SiDi | ouch | 19:42 |
| SiDi | an acer.. :D | 19:42 |
| Slonkie | pff it works great :P | 19:42 |
| Aqua21 | cya | 19:42 |
| Aqua21 | :D | 19:43 |
| SiDi | It's not in the almighty list | 19:43 |
| SiDi | so we're gonna experiment if you don't mind | 19:43 |
| Slonkie | nah don't if it's too much work.. my digital output for phones works.. just not the analog one | 19:44 |
| Slonkie | I'm fine with the digital, just wanted to see if it was an easy job to fix | 19:44 |
| SiDi | http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/audio_intel_hda google translate this into english | 19:44 |
| SiDi | well, we need to find the good model | 19:44 |
| SiDi | the one that fits your sound chipset | 19:45 |
| wtv | is compiz available for xfce? | 19:45 |
| TheSheep | yes | 19:45 |
| wtv | which package? | 19:45 |
| TheSheep | you have to install it and configure yourself though | 19:45 |
| SiDi | compiz | 19:45 |
| SiDi | :D | 19:45 |
| SiDi | you may want to install compizconfig-settings-manager too | 19:45 |
| SiDi | and then configure the window manager to xfwm instead of metacity | 19:46 |
| TheSheep | SiDi: you can do it? | 19:46 |
| SiDi | Yeh | 19:46 |
| SiDi | it's lost in the options | 19:46 |
| SiDi | you can give compiz the path to the window manager to use | 19:46 |
| TheSheep | I thought that compiz is a window manager itself, only takes decorator from metacity... | 19:47 |
| SiDi | (i never *tried* with xfwm, though) | 19:47 |
| SiDi | hmm | 19:47 |
| SiDi | you might be right | 19:47 |
| SiDi | may, even :P | 19:47 |
| wtv | SiDi: how do i do that? configuring it to xfwm | 19:48 |
| wtv | in the window decorations? | 19:49 |
| SiDi | Yeh | 19:49 |
| SiDi | if it doesnt work, i don't know what to do then :) | 19:49 |
| wtv | this command is there already /usr/bin/compiz-decorator | 19:50 |
| SiDi | try to replace it with /usr/bin/xfwm4, and restart compiz | 19:50 |
| SiDi | (save any document before | 19:50 |
| SiDi | and close any critical app) | 19:50 |
| SiDi | (because you might (may (will)) have to reboot your whole session incase (it will !! meh) it fails) | 19:51 |
| SiDi | I feel optimistic today. | 19:51 |
| Aqua21 | baaack! | 19:51 |
| SiDi | Welcome back | 19:51 |
| Aqua21 | THAAANK you SiDi | 19:51 |
| SiDi | How is the headset going on ? | 19:51 |
| Aqua21 | it worked! | 19:51 |
| SiDi | :) | 19:51 |
| Aqua21 | you're a genius | 19:51 |
| SiDi | Well, i'm not, sorry :p | 19:51 |
| SiDi | the french locoteam's doc writers are, though ;D | 19:52 |
| Aqua21 | lool | 19:52 |
| Aqua21 | yeah, but u were very helpful | 19:52 |
| SiDi | well, that's what i'm here for ^.^ hopefully i dont always fail | 19:52 |
| Aqua21 | well have to go now! Thank u a lot | 19:53 |
| Aqua21 | bye there | 19:53 |
| SiDi | see you | 19:53 |
| SiDi | damn, i've got an email to send to one of my teachers | 19:53 |
| SiDi | and i just noticed, i dont know who is the teacher | 19:54 |
| === wtv is now known as hi | ||
| === hi is now known as Guest61064 | ||
| === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti | ||
| klemmer19 | hello all - wondering if anyone might know anything about the VIA VT8237 SATA Controller - and its lack of support with 8.10 | 20:17 |
| MTec007 | hello. i am trying to ifgure out how to use vim and an editor and i have read the man pages but i cannot figure out the basics like saving etc, can some one help me? | 20:24 |
| MTec007 | s/and/as | 20:25 |
| MTec007 | i would really appricate the help, guys | 20:27 |
| TheSheep | MTec007: try the 'vimtutor' command | 20:28 |
| MTec007 | okay | 20:28 |
| SiDi | klemmer19: i don't :P | 20:28 |
| SiDi | MTec007: vim has a few different modes, you can switch modes with the key 'insert' (and with esc too, i believe) | 20:29 |
| SiDi | saving is ":w" , quitting ":q" | 20:29 |
| SiDi | and you can only write in "insertion" mode | 20:29 |
| TheSheep | it's all in the tutorial | 20:29 |
| klemmer19 | SiDi: I have tried reading about it quite a bit and it seems VIA has a walkthrough for how to make it work in 7.04... not sure if I could use this with 8.10 though | 20:29 |
| MTec007 | SiDi: how do i run those save and quit commands? | 20:29 |
| SiDi | klemmer19: me neither. i only buy nvidia :D | 20:30 |
| klemmer19 | http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3270&SubCatID=143 | 20:30 |
| SiDi | MTec007: check the tutorial, they'll explain better than me ;P | 20:30 |
| MTec007 | and vimtutor is blank, nothing to read | 20:30 |
| SiDi | man vim ? | 20:30 |
| MTec007 | didnt explain the saveing and quit etc stuff? | 20:30 |
| TheSheep | that's very strange, it works for me | 20:30 |
| MTec007 | im very new to linux i should mention that | 20:30 |
| SiDi | Ok, vim's man doesnt say anything about commands | 20:30 |
| SiDi | well, vim is really a weird editor, MTec007 :) and i wont mention emacs | 20:31 |
| TheSheep | MTec007: try: LANG=C && vimtutor | 20:31 |
| SiDi | if you need a basic and easy to use command line editor, i recommand nano | 20:31 |
| MTec007 | how to i exit vimtutor? lol | 20:31 |
| SiDi | vim and emacs are more for devs, or for everyday use, because they have a lot of tools that, once you know how to use them, make you gain time | 20:31 |
| SiDi | with esc or Q. either, try Ctrl+Z or +D or +C | 20:32 |
| MTec007 | Q ! thats what i needed to find out lol | 20:32 |
| MTec007 | i tried q but nothing happed | 20:32 |
| SiDi | Why do you want to use vim, btw ? | 20:33 |
| MTec007 | i need an editor for my website | 20:33 |
| TheSheep | try installing mc and using mcedit | 20:33 |
| MTec007 | that a GUI? | 20:34 |
| SiDi | erm.. :P vim is more for the sysadmins who're hacking through ssh, or for the guys who just broke their xorg.conf and don't have any desktop environment anymore | 20:34 |
| TheSheep | you remember Norton Commander? it's similar to its editor | 20:34 |
| * SiDi uses gedit :p | 20:34 | |
| MTec007 | i have gedit | 20:34 |
| MTec007 | so its better not to use vim as a editor on a regular basis? | 20:35 |
| MTec007 | or is that preference? | 20:35 |
| TheSheep | it's fine | 20:35 |
| TheSheep | it just needs some learning | 20:36 |
| SiDi | It's preference, honnestly | 20:36 |
| SiDi | Well, yeh. Vim needs some practice, and emacs needs a lot of practice :p | 20:36 |
| TheSheep | the more you put in, the more you get out | 20:36 |
| TheSheep | personally I can't use an editor that doesn't have easy access to regexps | 20:37 |
| SiDi | Oh btw, if there are non-english speaking people around, almost every locoteam is late on xubuntu-docs translation :p | 20:37 |
| MTec007 | i really appriciate the help guys i dont want to return to windows but i need to get past this learning curve | 20:37 |
| TheSheep | SiDi: Polish | 20:37 |
| SiDi | only the swedish teams owned it | 20:37 |
| SiDi | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/xubuntu-docs/+pots/musicvideophotos | 20:37 |
| TheSheep | MTec007: vim has a very steep learning curve | 20:37 |
| TheSheep | MTec007: using gedit or mouspad is easier | 20:38 |
| MTec007 | ok | 20:38 |
| Slonkie | what's a "locoteam" SiDi ? | 20:38 |
| SiDi | a local team | 20:39 |
| Slonkie | hm cool | 20:39 |
| TheSheep | a team that makes localisations -- that is, translates stuff | 20:39 |
| SiDi | You should try to help them on translations. I didn't notice but there actually is a lot of work | 20:39 |
| Slonkie | so is there a danish locoteam ? | 20:39 |
| SiDi | and organises local events, writes the local doc, manages the website / forum | 20:40 |
| SiDi | yeh | 20:40 |
| SiDi | There are locoteams for almost everywhere. | 20:40 |
| MTec007 | you guys have any explicit advice for me to avoid breaking things? | 20:41 |
| MTec007 | like dont type: blah... or something | 20:42 |
| SiDi | Use gedit. and do proper xhtml1.1 with css2.1, and screw ie6 | 20:42 |
| Slonkie | Physically or virtually breaking? :D | 20:42 |
| SiDi | (sc*** is a bad word, hope noone noticed i typed it :o= | 20:42 |
| MTec007 | ie6 is for windows newbs | 20:42 |
| Slonkie | physical/virtual | 20:42 |
| MTec007 | i always use valid html css | 20:42 |
| MTec007 | xhtml* | 20:42 |
| SiDi | good :) you belong to the 5% that care about the semantics of "quality" then ;p | 20:43 |
| MTec007 | Slonkie: either? | 20:43 |
| Slonkie | lol :P | 20:43 |
| knome | i site can be valid even if it supported ie6. | 20:44 |
| MTec007 | i tend to get nosey and mess with settings and files i shouldnt or have no reason to mess with | 20:44 |
| MTec007 | thats why i asked | 20:44 |
| SiDi | knome: yeh, it can, with a few hacks for the 3px width bugs and other merry stuff ;P | 20:44 |
| knome | SiDi, imho it doesn't really matter if you don't get the *exact* same layout/visual look with ie6 (or any other *old* browser) as long as you can say it is not broken for any browser | 20:47 |
| knome | SiDi, using ie conditional comments is not bad. they are good if your layout would break ie6 otherwise. with them you can also serve a stripped-down version for ie. | 20:47 |
| MTec007 | knome: if exact is what your looking for print it out and make visitors fill out a form and postal mail it to them. | 20:48 |
| knome | MTec007, you can have a print stylesheet which will be, if done right, very different from the css for screens | 20:49 |
| SiDi | knome: i totally agree and that's what i used to do | 20:49 |
| SiDi | knome: though, i'll now completely give ie6 up, to force people to move on (they're 15% now, i prefer making more efforts for the 10% who don't wanna hear of js/flash and the 2/3% that use lynx or similar browsers) | 20:50 |
| SiDi | (btw, no browser supports print medias correctly... especially those other than gecko-based browsers ;p) | 20:51 |
| knome | SiDi, i know, but that's also a decision to do to get more standards-supporting browsers | 20:52 |
| knome | SiDi, and people are used to shitty prints anyway | 20:52 |
| SiDi | Yeh | 20:53 |
| SiDi | they expect that stupid heavy js function | 20:53 |
| SiDi | or they dont dare printing | 20:53 |
| SiDi | my websites have always been very sexy when printed ! | 20:53 |
| Slor | Is the advice for "Automatic Keyring" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager still valid? I'd like to not have to put in a password each boot for my wireless, especially since the machine is set to auto-log me in. | 20:58 |
| Slor | Once person noted that is caused issues, so I wasn't sure if there's an officially recommended method now | 20:59 |
| Slor | oh, but I bet Xunbuntu doesn't have this same issue - I should see the #unbuntu channel | 21:00 |
| SiDi | having a look | 21:07 |
| boottime | stupid newbie question: I need to enable a wireless card on my system, but don | 21:08 |
| Slor | Found a number of other, yet still a few years old, refs - like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281 | 21:08 |
| boottime | 't have a System -> Administration option, where networking would be in normal ubuntu | 21:08 |
| SiDi | Slor: its not uptodate imo | 21:08 |
| SiDi | Slor: i never have to type my password | 21:09 |
| SiDi | there is an app that keeps the system passwords for you | 21:09 |
| SiDi | seahorse if i remember | 21:09 |
| SiDi | it also keeps nm's wireless passwords | 21:09 |
| Slor | hmmm | 21:09 |
| SiDi | boottime: Applications -> System | 21:09 |
| SiDi | or Applications -> parameters | 21:09 |
| boottime | SiDi, I don't have a "Networking" under that system menu though | 21:10 |
| SiDi | boottime: for the network stuff, i think you can right click the networkmanager's tray icon, and go to 'edit connections' | 21:11 |
| boottime | well, that was painfully simple. The mouse-over text is 'Wired network connection' so I wrongly assumed it didn't handle wireless. Thank you SiDi | 21:12 |
| SiDi | you're welcome | 21:13 |
| Slor | how do I set that up SiDi? Does seahorse automatically take over the keyring somehow? | 21:14 |
| SiDi | Its meant to | 21:14 |
| SiDi | but you can edit the preferences, check applications -> system -> i don't remember | 21:15 |
| SiDi | It's about keyring, you should find it easily :p | 21:15 |
| Slor | ok | 21:15 |
| SiDi | coming back later | 21:15 |
| SiDi | see you people | 21:15 |
| Slonkie | Is there any way to "scan" the local network i'm on to find a computer local ip? | 21:15 |
| TheSheep | Slonkie: arpscan | 21:22 |
| Slonkie | Is that an application TheSheep ? tried typing arpscan in terminal, dident work, tried searching for it, nothing.. | 21:24 |
| TheSheep | !info arpscan | 21:25 |
| ubottu | Package arpscan does not exist in intrepid | 21:25 |
| TheSheep | hmm | 21:25 |
| TheSheep | sudo apt-get install arp-scan | 21:26 |
| TheSheep | !info arp-scan | 21:26 |
| ubottu | arp-scan (source: arp-scan): arp scanning and fingerprinting tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6-2 (intrepid), package size 177 kB, installed size 528 kB | 21:26 |
| Slonkie | pcap_lookupdev: no suitable device found | 21:27 |
| Slonkie | when i type "arp-scan" in terminal | 21:27 |
| zoredache | you'll need the sudo | 21:27 |
| Slonkie | Thanks | 21:28 |
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| ricochet | hey guys i need some help with making some keyboard shortcuts | 22:22 |
| ricochet | i am a noob so please take it slow | 22:23 |
| knome | what is it that you are trying to achieve? | 22:23 |
| ricochet | well, when i had ubuntu 8.04 cntrl - delete would open my terminal | 22:24 |
| knome | right | 22:24 |
| Slonkie | Applications > Settings > Keyboard > Applications Shortcuts | 22:24 |
| ricochet | cntrl right arrow would cycle through windows and left arrow would show me the desktop | 22:25 |
| ricochet | Slonkie: i do that but everytime i try to add one it doesnt do it | 22:25 |
| Slonkie | ehm mine worked when i added them | 22:27 |
| ricochet | ok so i go to the keyboard short cut tab.. i click add.. i scroll down to xfce4-terminal then i click add.. then i click OK | 22:28 |
| ricochet | then it doesnt show up | 22:28 |
| ricochet | ah! hahaha i am an idiot.. the window kept on hiding behind the original window.. so i didnt know it was there | 22:29 |
| ricochet | sorry.. noob. | 22:29 |
| MTec007 | how do i fix this? trying to run apt-get E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory | 22:29 |
| Slonkie | heh no worries | 22:29 |
| Slonkie | sudo apt-get MTec007 ? | 22:29 |
| MTec007 | i did | 22:29 |
| ricochet | Slonkie: you wouldnt happen to know which one of these things i select to cycle through the open windows do you? or show the desktop? | 22:29 |
| Slonkie | 2 secs | 22:30 |
| MTec007 | i dont think the last apt-get close properly it had a issue | 22:30 |
| ricochet | Slonkie: thanks man | 22:30 |
| Slonkie | hmm i can't seem to find it, i tought i would be able to see the shortcut for alt+shift but i can't | 22:31 |
| ricochet | hmmm does anyone know? | 22:34 |
| Slonkie | MTec007 try reading this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-lock-varlibdpkglock-open-11-resource-temporarily-unavailable-error.html | 22:34 |
| ricochet | does anyone know how i can make the keyboard shortcut to switch between open windows.. like what alt-tab does? | 22:46 |
| ricochet | except make it a different shortcut | 22:46 |
| lukinfore | ricochet, alt-tab is determined in xfwm4 settings afaik | 22:50 |
| lukinfore | so change it there | 22:51 |
| ricochet | woah.. im a noob how do i do that? | 22:51 |
| lukinfore | settings/window manager? | 22:51 |
| lukinfore | or similar | 22:51 |
| ricochet | beautiful | 22:53 |
| ricochet | thanks man | 22:53 |
| lukinfore | xfwm4-settings for 4.6 | 22:53 |
| lukinfore | oh | 22:53 |
| lukinfore | np] | 22:53 |
| ricochet | oh also.. sometimes the windows are too big for the screen... is there a way i can change that? | 22:55 |
| ricochet | or stop that from happening? | 22:55 |
| ricochet | anyone? | 22:59 |
| ricochet | can anyone help me out with some of my windows going below the bottom bar and me not being able to see them? | 23:04 |
| ricochet | is anyone in here? | 23:09 |
| ricochet | i need help with another thing too | 23:09 |
| zoredache | people are here, they must might now know the answer.... | 23:10 |
| knome | !ask | ricochet | 23:10 |
| ubottu | ricochet: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 23:10 |
| ricochet | ok well first off some of my windows keep on peeking below the bottom bar and so i cant see the very bottom or some of the features of the window.. and another thing, i am installing compiz and ran into a problem, i found the fix here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3993442#post3993442 but i dont understand how to get to the point where they are at | 23:12 |
| ricochet | does anyone have a fix for this? | 23:15 |
| Pollywog | what does one do if they cannot see all the app windows in Xubuntu? sometimes they are too big to fit | 23:21 |
| ricochet | can someone help me with a compiz fix in 9.04? here is the link but i dont understand it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3993442#post3993442 | 23:31 |
| knome | ricochet, you should edit /usr/bin/compiz | 23:35 |
| ricochet | do i just put that in the terminal? | 23:36 |
| UKGent | using 64 bit version of xubuntu - synaptic is noticeably faster, as are all the file type operations, searching, installing etc | 23:37 |
| knome | ricochet, run 'gksudo mousepad /usr/bin/compiz' | 23:38 |
| ricochet | awesome | 23:39 |
| UKGent | installing large packages is really fun to watch , it just rips through it | 23:40 |
| UKGent | pity my ISP is not the same on their download speeds ... | 23:40 |
| ricochet | knome: Then do i just save? | 23:41 |
| knome | ricochet, yes. | 23:41 |
| ricochet | knome: Dude thanks so much for helping! it WORKS!!! | 23:42 |
| knome | ricochet, np. | 23:43 |
| knome | good night everybody, i'm out | 23:43 |
| knome | see you later | 23:43 |
| ricochet | see you man | 23:43 |
| ricochet | Hey does anyone know how to edit settings in compiz? | 23:44 |
| lukinfore | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/358796 | 23:44 |
| lukinfore | who's on jaunty can test that one? | 23:44 |
| Slonkie | loading site | 23:45 |
| Slonkie | so what should i test, lukinfore ? | 23:45 |
| lukinfore | is bug affects yu? | 23:46 |
| lukinfore | or not | 23:46 |
| lukinfore | that's the point | 23:46 |
| Slonkie | i don't understand the bug | 23:46 |
| Slonkie | scolling in htop should work as mouse 1? | 23:46 |
| lukinfore | uhm | 23:46 |
| lukinfore | scrolling in amn | 23:46 |
| lukinfore | *man | 23:47 |
| Slonkie | I don't know what man is | 23:47 |
| lukinfore | just type man man | 23:47 |
| lukinfore | and enter sure | 23:47 |
| Slonkie | when i type man man there is alot of text | 23:48 |
| Slonkie | nothing asking me to type sure :p | 23:48 |
| lukinfore | so, is it srollable? | 23:48 |
| Slonkie | well, when i press more the document shows in the terminal and i'm capable of scrolling the terminal, yes. | 23:50 |
| lukinfore | 'press more' ? | 23:54 |
| Slonkie | eeh how do i explain it? try opening man man in a small terminal | 23:54 |
| Slonkie | you'll be able to press "more" with enter | 23:55 |
| lukinfore | maybe your terminal is not xfce4-terminal? | 23:56 |
| lukinfore | cause there is no 'more' for me | 23:56 |
| Slonkie | oh might be | 23:56 |
| Slonkie | using the one in Accesories | 23:57 |
| lukinfore | it shows namual page, line, where --More usually appears to be | 23:57 |
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