[00:42] hey folks, thought i'd ask this again before i head off... is there a quick (and preferably easy) way to search for duplicate files within a folder on a mounted NTFS partition? [00:52] nineteenfingers, yup [00:52] nineteenfingers, You could generate an md5sum for all the files and look for duplicates [00:56] forgive my ignorance here - i've never done anything with md5sums before - but i've got 15.3 GB of files (18545 items) i need to compare - is doing that (creating the sums and looking for duplicates) an automatic procedure or something i'd have to do file by file? [00:57] nineteenfingers, Are all the files in a single directory? [00:58] is there an alternative to gsynaptics-mcs-plugin in xubuntu 9.04? [00:58] HazimG, what are you trying to do? [00:59] mostly just disable tapping, scrolling, that sort of thing [00:59] cody-somerville many subdirectories of a single directory... all of the files are in sub-directories in a single directory i've called "BackupStuff" on an XP user's desktop (mounted to /mnt) [00:59] nineteenfingers, http://code.activestate.com/recipes/551777/ <-- seems like a great script here [00:59] weird [01:00] mostly just disable tapping and scrolling [01:00] nineteenfingers, It'll need some modification to be recursive though. I could help you with that. [01:00] I know I could do it via a synclient script, but I was wondering if there was a gui tool available / in the works [01:00] HazimG, hmm... [01:01] JPohlmann, Do you know? [01:02] Hm, no. There's no replacement for gsynaptics-mcs-plugin. But maybe there are other GTK+ tools for synaptics touch pads. [01:03] sounds like a fun project - a couple of issues though... 1> my coding skills barely get past "hello world" and even that's not in Python. 2> i'm working on a live disk so not entirely sure how useful i'd be in the process of modifying it and 3> i was hoping for something pretty quick - this is all for a repair job i'm doing on someone's XP system - i can't say i fancy sinking much time into coding a script (or getting someone els [01:03] e to do so) - i'm just trying to reduce the size of the backup i need to make (currently looking at about 6 hours to transfer everything to another machine - anything that wasn't very quick would be a false economy) [01:03] well there's gsynaptics, but it doesn't load the settings at the start of the session like gsynaptics-mcs-plugin did [01:03] cody-somerville - that said... i probably would like a project like that if i had the time - it just seems kinda overkill for a single task i have to do today or tomorrow :p [01:04] oh and i know 3 isn't a couple - haha [01:04] nineteenfingers, Making it recursive would probably only take me a few seconds [01:05] the plugin itself is only 2kb, and most of it is just #includes, so I believe it would be trivial to convert it from using mcs to xconf, but I'm not certain [01:06] right - well there's still another issue to consider - might be a biggie - i'm using a live disk and the system is pretty gutless (only 256MB RAM) - even if I had a way to compile the code I don't think it'd be up t the job and would need doing again if the system crashed for any reason (it has a few times so far when i try to ask too much of it) [01:07] sorry don't think the hardware would be up to the job of compiling it... and would need to recompile every time if it crashed - my wording wasn't too clear first time [01:07] maybe i'm wrong about the hardware though - i'm not exactly experienced with such matters [01:07] python is interpreted and not compiled [01:08] However, I do suspect the script will take a long time to complete based on the information you've provided - lots of data to look at. [01:09] yea - just read the "Discussion" on the bottom of that page - it sounds like a great script - very useful when you need it - but likely to give this machine a pretty severe headache [01:10] think i might just back up the whole 15.3 gig and move onto something a touch more productive like actually earning money (sometimes it sucks being the one in the family who can struggle away and fix a computer) [01:12] hmm... if i'm on a machine with just 1 optical drive, running linux from a live cd, is it possible to burn a dvd under linux on that machine or can i not remove the linux live disk? [01:12] probably gonna be quickest to just drop these files onto a few DVD-RWs [01:12] You can not remove the disk [01:13] thought that might be the case [01:13] Although there are linux distributions can do that [01:13] Like recovery ones [01:13] But I dunno if burning would work [01:13] I use slax for that sort of thing [01:14] there's a toram option that loads the OS to ram so you can remove the disc [01:14] though I think knoppix and dsl have similar options [01:14] hmm - might be worth a look - though for time (downloading an iso, burning it, booting to it, mounting the drive and finally burning the disks - it might actually work out quicker and easier to just do the 6 hour network transfer i'm trying to avoid [01:15] Might just be easier to buy a new hard drive :P [01:15] HazimG - think i've got a DSL disk around here that might be good for that [01:15] the only thing is I don't know if dsl has python [01:16] you just need to mount a partition and burn it to a disc or do a network transfer is it? [01:16] haha! yea - it would be FAR easier to get a new drive - i don't think the owner has the money for one though - and after this i'll have no use for another drive until mine dies on me [01:17] is it an ntfs partition or an ext2/3 partition? [01:17] HazimG - need to get a 15.3GB folder off a hard drive in one machine so i can do a system recovery on it after one of its users riddled it with malware and rendered it unusable - ntfs partition [01:17] ah [01:17] yeah [01:18] you can build a slax image with ntfs-3g and that sort of thing [01:18] it has a web interface for adding your own packages to the image [01:18] do you need to transfer it to another windows machine? [01:20] HazimG - I can either put it onto a shared folder i've got on another windows machine or put it onto DVDRWs - either way i don't mind as long as it needs minimal input from me and doesn't take eons to do... oh - and it all needs to come back the other way once i've straightened out the affected windowns machine too [01:21] well tbh, transferring it to another windows machine over SMB is going to be a pain on any live linux distro [01:22] perhaps we should take this to #xubuntu-offtopic since this isn't about xubuntu itself [01:23] as it stands i'm now set up to make the transfer directly from machine to machine using xubuntu on the affected machine - probably gonna just get it going now and head to bed while it does its thing [01:24] could do with some sleep anyway - multitasking when out like a light can only be a good thing :) [01:24] mmm [01:24] cody-somerville : xubuntu doesn't come with an ftp client, does it? [01:25] correct [01:26] because it would be way less of a pain to just set up a passworded ftp server on the target machine, mount the ntfs partition on the affected machine, and transfer everything over ftp (if it was over a LAN) [01:26] it is over a LAN (affected machine ethernet to router... target machine wireless to router) [01:27] mmm [01:27] you'd need a livecd with an ftp client though [01:28] could install a small ftp client (if there is such a thing) on affected machine though - i do have internet access through xubuntu on there now [01:28] You can install an ftp client once you boot the live filesystem [01:28] no idea how to go about setting up ftp server on target though [01:29] there's plenty of "free" ftp servers for windows [01:29] I think SMB is probably the right answer. [01:29] why not start an ssh server on your livecd, and pull with winscp/filezilla? [01:30] mmm [01:30] does thunar-vfs support smb? [01:31] No [01:31] if thunar-vfs is what I'm thinking it is [01:31] you could always install pyneighborhood then [01:31] simple tool that lets you mount smb shares [01:32] are any of these alternative approaches/suggestions likely to be any quicker than using pyneighbourhood to mount a share from the target machine and drag+dropping the directory from the affected NTFS partition to the target share? [01:32] nope [01:32] pyneighborhood would be quickest [01:32] nah [01:32] Use sambafs :P [01:33] hi guys. will be installing xubuntu on the netbook [01:33] in that case i'm gonna go with that - i'd love to have a play with some of these alternatives but now i'm at the point of "if it works..." [01:33] im cheap.im poor and i hate paying for hardware and that is why i got a netbook [01:34] fdemocracy, :) [01:34] cody-somerville - hahaha! if i had a clue how to use that command i might go that way - the ease pyneighborhood brings is right up my inexperienced alley [01:35] If you can get pyneighborhood to work for ya, w00t w00t [01:40] xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386 comes with Perl 5.10 already installed doesn't it? [01:40] Correct [01:44] Yeah, that was pretty cool and shocking. I was just trying out http://wubi-installer.org/ on my windows machine today and noticed that perl -v was 5.10. I am using a low spec machine now running CentOS, but that's just too cool not to try and replace my CentOS with it. It's fast as heck too. Thanks. [01:44] Why shocking? [01:48] Why was it shocking? I didn't realize that the distro had 5.10 installed by default. Most of what I've installed lately, came with 5.8.8 and it's a headache having 2 seperate "perls" on a machine... then trying to use CPAN along with it..etc..etc...plus, it was faster that I thought...I haven't been a linux user for long...maybe a only a year... [01:51] * cody-somerville nods. [01:51] well - the transfer is underway (used pyneighborhood to a windows share, mounted the NTFS partition and drag-drop copied the huge folder across) might be quicker than i expected though - the copy dialog is dithering between 3 and 4 hours remaining as opposed to the 6 i thought it'd be from my earlier abandoned attempt [01:51] lost a word there - "used pyneighborhood to MOUNT a windows share" [01:53] and on that note - i'm off to get some sleep - goodnight all and thanks for your help and suggestions earlier - talk soon [01:54] good luck with the transfer [01:54] cheers === cyzie_ is now known as cyzie [02:01] Is it possible to actually share clipboards between virtualbox and the original OS? I have it set to "directional" but it doesn't work. [02:02] BigMoopies: You need guest additions installed [02:02] charlie-tca, how do I install that ? [02:03] where did you get VirtualBox, website or repository? [02:03] website , latest version [02:03] or atleast 2.1.4 [02:04] deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian hardy non-free [02:04] in the apt/sources [02:04] STOP LEAVING YOUR COMPUTERS ON 24/7 YOU ARE CREATING OVER 1000kg OF C02 EMISSIONS A YEAR. [02:04] (is how I got it) [02:04] wow [02:04] I think they should be in /usr/share/virtualbox/ [02:05] it is called VBoxGuestAdditions.iso [02:05] what do I do? [02:05] !ops NTFS [02:05] Sorry, I don't know anything about ops NTFS [02:05] I see it [02:05] !ops [02:05] ops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville [02:05] hmmm [02:05] What is it? [02:05] STOP LEAVING YOUR COMPUTERS ON 24/7 YOU ARE CREATING OVER 1000kg OF C02 EMISSIONS A YEAR. [02:05] "nls rdesktop-vrdp-keymaps rdesktop-vrdp.tar.gz src VBoxGuestAdditions.iso VBoxSysInfo.sh" [02:06] cody-somerville: NTFS got kicked from #ubuntu+1 a minute ago [02:06] and now he is banned from Freenode :) [02:07] What do I do with the ISO ? [02:08] BigMoopies: you add it as a cd in the virtual machine, then go to /media/cdrom and look for the additions.linux file to run [02:08] Run it in a terminal window [02:08] in the VirtualBox machine [02:08] OK, so I need to mount the ISO as the CD-ROM drive so Windows XP picks it up ? [02:09] Your virtualbox is in windows? then yes [02:09] and run the exe file [02:11] Ubuntu user here, using Xubuntu for the first time; I noticed the desktop icons for Network and Computer run Nautilus, but Places | Home run thunar -- why is that? [02:11] because Xfce does not use Nautilus [02:12] Nautilus and Thunar are both file managers. [02:12] yes I understand that [02:12] charlie-tca, So I can now unmount the ISO and put it back to normal CD-ROM drive now that the stuff is installed ? [02:12] yes, BigMoopies [02:12] I'm running Xfce now, and Nautilus runs when I open my cifs shares and/or Network icon [02:12] BTW: what is "passthrough" ? [02:13] Because thunar doesn't have them and doesn't know what to do with it. [02:13] ahh [02:13] BigMoopies: I use it to access cd's on the hardware drive. [02:13] so it's 'normal' aye? [02:13] heh [02:13] so should I allow it or keep it unchecked ? [02:14] It maeans it sees the cd without questioning the os the VBox runs in seeing the cd [02:14] Boy, did I screw that up [02:14] LOL. [02:14] It lets the VBox see the cd without the Xubuntu seeing it also [02:15] Without passthrough, when I put a cd in, both my desktop and VBox see it. With it, only VBox sees it when it is running. [02:17] charlie-tca, now that I installed the guest stuff, Windows' highest res is 800x600 , anyway to fix that ? [02:17] any way [02:18] run the guest additions again [02:18] I never ran windows in a VBox. But you should be able to raise resolution to match the normal desktop with it. [02:19] It is the only way I ever got 1400x900 in VBox [02:21] BigMoopies: have you looked at the manual yet? /usr/share/doc/virtualbox/UserManual.pdf [02:25] charlie-tca, for some reason I'm not able to slide it more than 800x600 [02:25] with the new 'driver' [02:28] hmmm, "you may also open the Windows Device Manager and select "Update driver..."for [02:28] The VirtualBox Graphics Adapter [02:28] Wonder if that needs to be run for windows? [02:28] " you can resize the virtual machine’s window, [02:28] and the video resolution in the guest will be automatically adjusted (as if you [02:28] had manually entered an arbitrary resolution in the guest’s display settings). [02:28] For Linux and Solaris guests, the Xorg server version 1.3 or later is required for [02:28] " [02:28] gah [02:28] too many lines [02:29] So by adjusting the window size, it adjusts the resolution [02:29] Makes it fit the size of the window [02:30] yeah but it don't [02:31] Also, right-ctrl + L seems to adjust the size to full screen and back to a window [02:31] I just have it stuck at 800x600 in the middle of the screen [02:32] does the clipboard work? [02:32] yes [02:32] well.... [02:33] Looks to me like windows just doesn't really listen [02:33] Let me look at the VBox forums [02:34] what in the world did seemless mode just do [02:34] seemless says run windows in a window, and use the linux desktop at the same time [02:35] and pass things back and forth, I think [02:35] now it's 1024x710 res. [02:35] with seemless [02:36] Stretch the window and see what it does [02:37] also, can ask in #vbox for help beyond me [02:39] it might be working now that I went in to seemless then to full screen [02:39] seemless , unseemless, full screen [02:39] rather [02:39] I'm shutting it down and trying it again to see [02:41] yeah now it resizes how it's supposed to to fit my real OS [02:41] kuhraaaaaazy. [02:41] so it is working? [02:41] Yes, magically [02:41] not so magic. You did it! [02:42] Yay! [02:42] now I just wonder if I need to install some anti-virus to slow the virtualbox down to a crawl [02:42] just like real windows [02:43] I don't know. I don't have windows. If it gets infected, you can delete the vbox drive to get rid of it. It is a file. [02:43] yeah, but I don't wanna redo all my mIRC scripts [02:43] but if you send emails from it, you can infect others [02:43] Think viruses, then [02:44] It is windows, after all [02:45] Anything that hits windows, hits windows in a virtual machine, too [02:45] yeah, that's why I stopped using windows in the first place. I got tired of installing all that stuff then it taking 3-5 mins to load up on restart [02:47] I wonder with the new virtualbox driver, would it be possible to run games just like real windows ? [02:47] giving virtualbox more video RAM that is [02:48] possible, I think. Might run slow, though [02:48] I do 4 installs at a time here, but it ties up my dsl real bad [02:48] that's what I thought. [02:49] Of course, I usually have one more hardware install running, and two systems I am using, too [02:49] kind of frustrating when daughter says her browser is slowww [02:49] I only have 425 MBs per any given 24 hours in daytime hours [02:49] then 1-6 AM is unlimited usage for my ISP [02:50] I pay a bunch, to have a full-time 7mbs connection [02:50] Wildblue doesn't have anything like that, that I am aware of.. And they are capped by month [02:50] Yeah, I got no caps, but it is not cheap, either [02:51] I pay $80 for Hughesnet [02:51] pro plus plan [02:51] $130 for quest [02:51] DSL is 2 miles up the road [02:51] along with cable [02:51] in the city limits [02:51] CableOne wanted about 1/2 of that, but they cap you if you download too much. [02:52] Bad deal when I test the ISO images daily [02:53] Maybe mine is cheap for what I get? [02:53] we have Suddenlink and AT&T DSL [02:53] I hear AT&T is not very good [02:53] ATT hasn't extended the DSL coverage south for us [02:53] It'd beat 15 KB/sec in daytime hours I bet. [02:54] and paying $80 [02:54] and a cap.. [02:54] It might. cap would probably stay, but it is higher, I think. speed should increase, though [02:55] Maybe Obama will fix it (yeah right) [02:55] hold your breath? [02:55] LOL [02:56] Can't convince AT&T to bring DSL down, huh? [02:57] no, or Suddenlink. Even though we got Sat Internet and Sat TV all out here. [02:57] Suddenlink would be an obviously great competitor [02:57] idiots [02:57] Well, my brother could not get natural gas, even though it was at his neighbors, 25 feet away. [02:57] He was not within the company policy [02:58] LOL,. We had to pay 1,200something to get BiCounty (like city water) ran to our house from about 200 feet. [02:58] Then we had to pay for a plumber to get it from the road to the house [02:58] (their meter ) [02:59] Yeah, they got ya, coming and going [02:59] so if the neighbors down the road get it, we just saved them a bundle [02:59] Well, I gotta go. long day today. [02:59] from having to tap on to it from where it was to their house [03:00] That's true. Maybe get with them to get AT&T? [03:26] do divx streams work with xubuntu? [03:49] can someone help me to delete a file that keeps telling me permission denied it's a backup file I think from sbackup I tried sudo rm but I'm not good at command line commands in terminal how can I get rid of this file even though there is nothing in it and do I have to put sbackup back into my computer to get rid of the file? [03:49] loren_, Whats the path to the file? [03:51] home/loren/Computer Backup Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful [03:53] do you need the drive letter? [03:54] sudo rm /home/loren/Computer\ Backup\ Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful [03:54] should work [03:54] I will try it [03:54] anybody had any luck printing on a cd in xubuntu? [03:56] I get this loren@loren-desktop:~$ sudo rm /home/loren/Computer\ Backup\ Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful [03:56] [sudo] password for loren: [03:56] rm: cannot remove `/home/loren/Computer Backup Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful': Is a directory [03:56] loren@loren-desktop:~$ [03:57] ah [03:57] loren_, ah [03:57] You're attempting to delete a directory instead of a file. [03:57] it's just like it says, it's a directory [03:57] sudo rm -rf /home/loren/Computer\ Backup\ Files/2009-02-27_08.29.27.350650.loren-desktop.ful <-- should do the trick [03:58] o-k I will try it [03:58] Be careful! [04:00] It worked thank you very much I have tried for weeks to get rid of it thank you again [04:01] I'm new to chat also:) [04:01] thank you [04:44] hi [04:44] please i need help to install a web cam [04:45] lsusb [04:45] ID 093a:2472 Pixart Imaging, Inc. [04:47] !webcam [04:47] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [04:47] have you read those pages yet? [04:48] thanks, now reading [04:52] how do i reset the gdm? [04:52] since i removed it to fix my problem [04:57] J_Litewski: did you get it all fixed? [04:58] yea [04:58] it's running like new now [04:59] it was a tiny bug in xfce 4.6.0 that sometimes caused sessions not to delete [04:59] anyway, in a terminal first do this command 'cd /etc/rc2.d' then do this 'sudo ln -s ../init.d/gdm' [05:01] ok [05:06] thank you for all of your help zoredache [05:08] brb [05:16] that didn't work [05:17] did you get an error when you ran the command? [05:20] i wonder if my video card doesn't support dual display output [05:20] zoredache, no it ran fine, still didn't get a login screen though [05:23] try it this way then... sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults 30 01 [05:27] so xubuntu didnt install over the usb stick [05:27] im disappointed [05:27] that was weird [05:27] "cant detect cdrom" [05:28] who else is having problems with updating sources? [05:29] just you ;) [05:29] huh [05:29] that's really weird [05:29] * J_Litewski1 smacks Charter Communications [05:29] work! [05:29] :P [05:30] that did it [05:30] well at least you got it running [05:30] lol [05:30] and i mean ubuntu [05:30] i had it running for a while, it's just the curve balls that get you [05:31] like the whole 'lets spawn 200 xfdesktop4's and overwork xorg to the point of near Hard Drive failure' [05:44] what is wobbly windows? [05:52] it makes thinks act like jello when you move them around... [05:53] but it don't work with xfwm4, do it? [05:53] not sure, I have never cared enough to try it [05:53] !compiz [05:53] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz-fusion [05:54] I prefer to have my computer actually be using cpu cycles on actually doing useful things.... [05:54] yea [05:55] just an ADD moment thing [05:55] well, i'm off [06:58] hello? [07:00] quick question...ummm i'm kinda new to this linux thing, and my old thinkpad has a dvd-rom but for some reason i can't seem to play any of my dvd....anyone know why that is?? [07:23] okay i thought i had it there, if anyone here can help me i'm all ears...or eyes i guess lol [07:25] S.O.S My dvd-rom won't play my dvd's S.O.S!! [07:25] do i need a different program maybe???...right now all i have is Totem [07:48] !dvd | sketchykid [07:48] sketchykid: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [07:52] Hi all, I need to set up a few workstations with nothing but firefox and the abilty to lock with a login screen that authenticates with an ms active directory server, what would be the best way to go about this? [08:02] where can i change the timezone? [08:02] im in germany right now and i goes one hour forward [08:03] Applications > System > Date & Time [08:04] there i set my time to europe/berlin [08:04] but its still one hour forward [08:05] To make it automatically update your time, you need to enable the ntp server sync [08:05] it is ntp [08:05] and the ntp server is right [08:05] Then just wait for it to update :) [08:06] it shows CEST for germany. it should be GMT+1 [10:25] hello everyone. is there a way to keep the menu structure in xfce 4.6? i've understood that i have to change the .desktop, .menu and .directory files by hand (e.g. to open up a new category), but when these packages are updated, the .desktop files of them revert back to normal, making it quite impossible to retain a certain menu state. how can i prohibit this? [10:45] sorry to flood, but is there a way to keep the menu structure in xfce 4.6? i've understood that i have to change the .desktop, .menu and .directory files by hand (e.g. to open up a new category), but when these packages are updated, the .desktop files of them revert back to normal, making it quite impossible to retain a certain menu state. how can i prohibit this? [10:46] modify the local copies in your ~/.config [10:52] well... now that's an easy solution :) you mean that i should place the altered copies inside .local/share/applications ? because i can't find a suitable folder inside /.config [10:53] yeah, for .desktop files [10:53] you can also alter the rules that govern categories in .config/menu [10:56] desktop icons disappeared and wallpaper turned black suddenly in xfce 4. any ideas? [10:57] i tried restarting but again i get iconless black desktop. i see all the panels though [10:58] wtv, press alt + f2, and type xfdesktop4 [10:58] @ TheSheep: I don't understand your last solution... my guess would be to create .local/share/desktop-directories and copy the categories there [10:58] i don't understand because i have no ./config/menu :) [10:59] cody-somerville: it says the file doesn't exist [11:00] oops [11:00] just xfdesktop [11:00] cody-somerville: it worked! but will it work everytime on start up? [11:01] wtv, if you save your session on logout, yup [11:02] cody-somerville: can i make it so that it starts autmatically when starting a session? [11:03] without having saved it before. i know how to do it in gnome but I'm new to xfce [11:04] I don't know if you want that. It might start the desktop again, not sure. [11:04] cody-somerville: k. but thanks ^ ^ [11:38] hello [11:39] I after failing to make a bootable USB I just blindly followed this tutorial http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/#more-408 [11:40] everything seemed to be fine but all i ended up with is ash :/ [11:41] ah, nm, sry [11:41] minimal 384 Meg, I dont have :/ [13:51] Hey all! [13:51] Heya [13:52] I am really disapointed that I have not been able to test for this beta. [13:52] : ( [13:52] * Pres-Gas submits self to cody-somerville for appropriate reparations :P [13:53] I have a class I am teaching...but after it is over...I will be able to dive in more...after next week w00t! [13:53] :] === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:19] <|nineteenfingers> hey folks - i'm struggling a bit here... i tried to use catfish for this but that's just ended in a bug report so i'm trying to do it with "find" via terminal... i need to search the NTFS partition i have mounted at /mnt for all files with a given extension... some folder names contain spaces (Documents and Settings for example) but i can't seem to get the comman right - anyone able to help or suggest an alternative to catfish w [15:19] <|nineteenfingers> hich will do the job in a gui? [15:21] <|nineteenfingers> sorry. that should read "can't get the command right" [15:21] |nineteenfingers: find /mnt -name '*.ext' [15:22] <|nineteenfingers> TheSheep, need the ' around *.ext? [15:22] yes [15:22] especially if you have any .ext files in the current dir [15:22] <|nineteenfingers> and that'll search all the subdirs will it? [15:23] yes [15:23] <|nineteenfingers> great - just what i needed - i couldn't wrap my head around it at all - i think i just don't learn well from man pages [15:24] find is horribly complicated [15:24] but it can do almost anything [15:24] <|nineteenfingers> while i think on... when a command is running that's taking a long time (as searching an entire hard drive will) - is there a quick way to cancel it? [15:25] ctrl+c [15:25] <|nineteenfingers> yea - the man is pretty large [15:25] <|nineteenfingers> cheers ablomen [15:27] <|nineteenfingers> TheSheep - you've got me thinking now - "can do almost anything" - how about getting it to list every directory that contains a particular extension rather than listing all files with the extension? [15:27] <|nineteenfingers> or is that asking a bit much? [15:29] |nineteenfingers: it's doable, but I can't tell you the command without some research in the documentation -- and I'm too lazy :) [15:30] <|nineteenfingers> haha - i don't blame you there :p [15:30] you can add | grep 'word' to only list lines that contain the specified word [15:30] <|nineteenfingers> i mean - "how could you! you *buntu types are supposed to be really helpful!" - haha [15:30] or grep -v 'word' to skip lines that contain it [15:48] find ./Temp -name "*.jpg" | perl -e "while(){ print s/[a-z|A-Z|-|_]*\.jpg//$_; print $_ }" | sort | uniq [15:48] sort of anyway ;) [15:53] hey guys i need some help with some stuff, i put 9.04 on my dell mini and it runs great however i need some help with some tweaks [15:53] i am new at linux so please take it slow [15:55] ok so first how do i disable touchpad tapping and scrolling? [15:57] anyone? [15:58] touchpad scrolling and tapping.. how do i get rid of it? [16:17] can anyone help me out? i just ran a system update and now my system won't boot, it sits there and says "GRUB " but never shows the boot menu [16:24] zombor: boot from livecd, and select the recovery mode [16:24] zombor: can't remember the exact name of the option [16:25] TheSheep: thanks, someone also suggested this [16:25] http://microdotsagamedev.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/repair-your-grub-loader/ [16:26] yeah, that's what the menu-based recovery mode does [16:26] just automated [16:26] ah, ok [16:26] ill try that first then [16:40] flippin connection is all over the place [16:42] aaargh! [16:44] ablomen... in that find command you sent earler you had "while ()" - is it to be written like that or am I meant to put something else in place of ? [16:44] it's like that [16:44] or you can use <> [16:45] that's perl's syntax for file handles [16:45] so just type it as written? [16:46] there are some mistakes in it [16:46] like, you need to double the \'s [16:52] just the backslash needs doubling or all the slashes too? [16:53] just backslash [16:55] well, the hard drive is crunching away, so it's doing SOMETHING - nothing coming up in terminal as yet though - we'll see what happens [16:58] perl is a little overkill for it [16:58] but should work [17:00] hmm - it's done something... it seems it's listed each directory that contains a .jpg and with each entry all the jpgs in that directory but missed the .jpg off the end - i need it to just give each directory path once and nothing more [17:00] it's a start though [17:01] all this because my aunt thinks there *might* be some pictures of her late father on the drive - as much as I agree that important stuff should be backed up - i don't have the heart to carry on with fixing this thing before i've made sure there aren't [17:07] nineteenfingers, find ./Temp -name "*.jpg" | perl -e "while(){ print s/[a-z|A-Z|0-9|\-|_|\.]*\.jpg//$_; print $_ }" | sort | uniq [17:07] that should do it [17:07] what's wrong if I can not reboot system? reboot works only by pressing reset button on PC case. shutdown command works fine but reboot stops processes (as usual, I have Ubuntu server 8.04LTS + xfce) and after stopping processes monitor shows xubuntu logo and loading abr stops and freezes computer. I can not find anything in /var/log/syslog or dmesg... [17:07] and now i have to go :0 [17:07] *:) [17:07] bye [17:08] Hi [17:08] thanks ablomen :) [17:09] Hi Slonkie. How's things? [17:10] to ablomen or anyone lese (you might know TheSheep) - that command starts with "find ./Temp" - am I right in thinking I should be replacing that with /mnt if i'm searching the NTFS partition i've mounted to there? [17:10] else* [17:10] yes [17:10] and it should definitely be *\\.jpg and not *\.jpg yea? [17:11] yes [17:11] and \\- [17:11] ah - didn't spot that one - cheers [17:12] and \\. by the looks of it [17:13] jurism: sounds like power manager is involved. Anything in ~/.xsessions-error log? [17:14] TheSheep - your simple find command earlier had '.EXT' - ablomen's has ".EXT" - are the two interchangable or does it matter which I use? [17:14] SOrry, I am now on WIndowsXP, I have turned off CPU power manager on startup... [17:14] I will check ~/.xsessions-error log as soon as I can [17:16] nineteenfingers: you should use single quotes in that case [17:16] i'm tempted to ask when i would use double quotes, but to be honest i feel somewhat out of my depth already - the answer might drown me completely! haha [17:23] What day is Jaunty set for ? [17:24] !schedule | BigMoopies [17:24] BigMoopies: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [17:25] nineteenfingers: the difference between double quotes and single quotes is simply that in single quotes * is treated as * literally, and is not expanded to a list of files that match the pattern in the current directory [17:25] Well, actually, April 23 [17:25] nineteenfingers: nots sure if that's helpful [17:25] well those websites tell me nothing [17:25] charlie-tca, OK [17:26] !release [17:26] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [17:26] * charlie-tca can't remember it [17:26] !jaunty [17:26] Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support. [17:27] I'm guessing it wont be worth going Hardy -> Intrepid -> Jaunty [17:27] But rather just waiting on the next LTS [17:28] Less there is some kind of big bad super speed up or something new worth using ? [17:29] Jaunty has Xfce 4.6 [17:29] It is *so* worth upgrading to Jaunty [17:29] Intrepid was shot [17:29] cody-somerville: does it have menu editor? ;) [17:30] Umm [17:30] * cody-somerville waves his hand, "These are not the droids you are looking for." [17:30] cody-somerville, What's the big bad booty daddy difference in 4.whatever and 4.6 ? [17:31] 4.4.2 [17:31] I think [17:31] BigMoopies, http://www.xfce.org/about/tour [17:31] BigMoopies: rubberband selections on the desktop [17:31] rubber who ? [17:32] The sound mixer looks like a proper sound mixer too [17:32] it's unusable without a scrollwheel, actually [17:33] I guess I'll have to try out Jaunty. [17:33] I can always just load it up LIVE [17:33] to see if it blows my hardware apart like Intrepid [17:34] charlie-tca: yes, I found one error in /home/myusername/.xsession-errors: gnome-system-monitor fatal IO error 11 resource temporary unavailable I had warning about SElinux was found but not enabled [17:35] I still don't see Thunar being able to view the 'network' (samba, etc) [17:35] Thats coming in 4.8 [17:36] But there is a tool now in Xubuntu to do it [17:38] jurism: that should not be it [17:39] Should still be able to restart [17:40] I don't think it is xfce/x-server problem because I manually start it when I want with sudo gdm... [17:40] reboot works if I enter safe mode... [17:43] hi all [17:44] People, why 8.10 don't have package mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-br ? [17:45] it doesn't have mozilla-firefox-locale-pt either [17:47] jurism: are you restarting just the desktop? does a full system restart work? [17:48] J_P: it doesn't have any firefox locale packages [17:50] TheSheep: the old ubuntu has [17:50] old versions [18:03] I restart full system with command reboot but system hangs up with this command and do not restart. if I enter in safe mode (choosen from GRUB menu), "reboot" command works fine. when I start PC in safe mode between apache2 start and running local boot scripts I have: setting advenced power managment level to0xfe (254) [18:33] hi, anyone use an online backup service with linux? [18:34] you could try DropBox [18:34] jungledisk claims to have a linux client [18:34] I haven't tried it yet [18:36] thanks guys I'll look those up [19:01] Is there any place where can I get .deb package with newer linux kernel than it is available in synaptic (apt-get)? Thank You! Can I install kernel which is for Ubuntu 8.10 not Ubuntu 8.04LTS? [19:03] you can compile your own [19:24] i need help [19:24] please [19:24] !ask [19:24] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [19:25] How can I hear my music by phones in Xubuntu? [19:25] they don't work [19:25] do speakers work if you plug them in? [19:25] only pc spakers work [19:26] tried looking in the mixer if it's muted? [19:26] nothing that I plug there works [19:26] How do I do that Slonkie? [19:26] what version are you using? [19:27] 9.04 [19:28] in your tray isen't there an mixer icon? [19:29] Maybe i added mine manually. You can do that by right click > Add New Item > Mixer [19:31] they are all ok I think [19:31] but I still don't hear any sound... Sound goes through notbeook speakers [19:32] okay [19:32] Sorry i don't know then [19:32] :( [19:32] What's up ? [19:32] Laptop + headset sound problem ? [19:32] yes [19:33] sound comes through the notebook speakers, instead my headset [19:33] What's the model ? [19:34] i have a VAIO VGN-FZ11S [19:34] don't know the sound card model [19:34] also, type the following commands and pastebin them : [19:34] cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#* | grep Codec [19:34] lspci | grep -i audio [19:34] but in Windows, it's ok [19:34] It's an ALSA driver configuration problem [19:34] ok.. [19:35] its configured generically, there are some adjustments we can do [19:35] and on most laptops it works [19:36] Codec: SigmaTel STAC9872AK [19:36] Codec: Conexant ID 2c06 [19:36] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [19:36] Okey, as expected :) [19:37] just a second [19:37] :D [19:37] check for the file : /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base [19:37] if you have it we're going to edit it, either we're going to setup a few more things before [19:38] is it the codec "Conexant ID 2x06" which is the problem, SiDi ? [19:38] i have it [19:39] Slonkie: no, it's just that hda intels need some adjustment [19:39] how do I edit it? [19:39] what do I do now? [19:39] gksu mousepad /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base [19:39] and you'll add at its end [19:39] options snd-hda-intel model=vaio [19:39] Then, reload the kernel module (i don't know how, so i usually just reboot my whole PC instead... *proud*) [19:40] It should hopefully make the volume higher and fix that problem with the headset [19:40] if it doesn't, we'll try another thing, and if this other thing doesn't work, blame alsa (AND sony !) [19:40] Can you see if the mine is correct? http://pastebin.com/m5db84de5 [19:40] I am having somehow the same problem [19:41] Slonkie: "any" is correct ;p the commands are just to check that they have the same ALC version than those on ubuntu-fr.org's doc's list of alsa models [19:42] Slonkie: what laptop do you have ? [19:42] Acer Aspire 4530 [19:42] ouch [19:42] an acer.. :D [19:42] pff it works great :P [19:42] cya [19:43] :D [19:43] It's not in the almighty list [19:43] so we're gonna experiment if you don't mind [19:44] nah don't if it's too much work.. my digital output for phones works.. just not the analog one [19:44] I'm fine with the digital, just wanted to see if it was an easy job to fix [19:44] http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/audio_intel_hda google translate this into english [19:44] well, we need to find the good model [19:45] the one that fits your sound chipset [19:45] is compiz available for xfce? [19:45] yes [19:45] which package? [19:45] you have to install it and configure yourself though [19:45] compiz [19:45] :D [19:45] you may want to install compizconfig-settings-manager too [19:46] and then configure the window manager to xfwm instead of metacity [19:46] SiDi: you can do it? [19:46] Yeh [19:46] it's lost in the options [19:46] you can give compiz the path to the window manager to use [19:47] I thought that compiz is a window manager itself, only takes decorator from metacity... [19:47] (i never *tried* with xfwm, though) [19:47] hmm [19:47] you might be right [19:47] may, even :P [19:48] SiDi: how do i do that? configuring it to xfwm [19:49] in the window decorations? [19:49] Yeh [19:49] if it doesnt work, i don't know what to do then :) [19:50] this command is there already /usr/bin/compiz-decorator [19:50] try to replace it with /usr/bin/xfwm4, and restart compiz [19:50] (save any document before [19:50] and close any critical app) [19:51] (because you might (may (will)) have to reboot your whole session incase (it will !! meh) it fails) [19:51] I feel optimistic today. [19:51] baaack! [19:51] Welcome back [19:51] THAAANK you SiDi [19:51] How is the headset going on ? [19:51] it worked! [19:51] :) [19:51] you're a genius [19:51] Well, i'm not, sorry :p [19:52] the french locoteam's doc writers are, though ;D [19:52] lool [19:52] yeah, but u were very helpful [19:52] well, that's what i'm here for ^.^ hopefully i dont always fail [19:53] well have to go now! Thank u a lot [19:53] bye there [19:53] see you [19:53] damn, i've got an email to send to one of my teachers [19:54] and i just noticed, i dont know who is the teacher === wtv is now known as hi === hi is now known as Guest61064 === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [20:17] hello all - wondering if anyone might know anything about the VIA VT8237 SATA Controller - and its lack of support with 8.10 [20:24] hello. i am trying to ifgure out how to use vim and an editor and i have read the man pages but i cannot figure out the basics like saving etc, can some one help me? [20:25] s/and/as [20:27] i would really appricate the help, guys [20:28] MTec007: try the 'vimtutor' command [20:28] okay [20:28] klemmer19: i don't :P [20:29] MTec007: vim has a few different modes, you can switch modes with the key 'insert' (and with esc too, i believe) [20:29] saving is ":w" , quitting ":q" [20:29] and you can only write in "insertion" mode [20:29] it's all in the tutorial [20:29] SiDi: I have tried reading about it quite a bit and it seems VIA has a walkthrough for how to make it work in 7.04... not sure if I could use this with 8.10 though [20:29] SiDi: how do i run those save and quit commands? [20:30] klemmer19: me neither. i only buy nvidia :D [20:30] http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3270&SubCatID=143 [20:30] MTec007: check the tutorial, they'll explain better than me ;P [20:30] and vimtutor is blank, nothing to read [20:30] man vim ? [20:30] didnt explain the saveing and quit etc stuff? [20:30] that's very strange, it works for me [20:30] im very new to linux i should mention that [20:30] Ok, vim's man doesnt say anything about commands [20:31] well, vim is really a weird editor, MTec007 :) and i wont mention emacs [20:31] MTec007: try: LANG=C && vimtutor [20:31] if you need a basic and easy to use command line editor, i recommand nano [20:31] how to i exit vimtutor? lol [20:31] vim and emacs are more for devs, or for everyday use, because they have a lot of tools that, once you know how to use them, make you gain time [20:32] with esc or Q. either, try Ctrl+Z or +D or +C [20:32] Q ! thats what i needed to find out lol [20:32] i tried q but nothing happed [20:33] Why do you want to use vim, btw ? [20:33] i need an editor for my website [20:33] try installing mc and using mcedit [20:34] that a GUI? [20:34] erm.. :P vim is more for the sysadmins who're hacking through ssh, or for the guys who just broke their xorg.conf and don't have any desktop environment anymore [20:34] you remember Norton Commander? it's similar to its editor [20:34] * SiDi uses gedit :p [20:34] i have gedit [20:35] so its better not to use vim as a editor on a regular basis? [20:35] or is that preference? [20:35] it's fine [20:36] it just needs some learning [20:36] It's preference, honnestly [20:36] Well, yeh. Vim needs some practice, and emacs needs a lot of practice :p [20:36] the more you put in, the more you get out [20:37] personally I can't use an editor that doesn't have easy access to regexps [20:37] Oh btw, if there are non-english speaking people around, almost every locoteam is late on xubuntu-docs translation :p [20:37] i really appriciate the help guys i dont want to return to windows but i need to get past this learning curve [20:37] SiDi: Polish [20:37] only the swedish teams owned it [20:37] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/xubuntu-docs/+pots/musicvideophotos [20:37] MTec007: vim has a very steep learning curve [20:38] MTec007: using gedit or mouspad is easier [20:38] ok [20:38] what's a "locoteam" SiDi ? [20:39] a local team [20:39] hm cool [20:39] a team that makes localisations -- that is, translates stuff [20:39] You should try to help them on translations. I didn't notice but there actually is a lot of work [20:39] so is there a danish locoteam ? [20:40] and organises local events, writes the local doc, manages the website / forum [20:40] yeh [20:40] There are locoteams for almost everywhere. [20:41] you guys have any explicit advice for me to avoid breaking things? [20:42] like dont type: blah... or something [20:42] Use gedit. and do proper xhtml1.1 with css2.1, and screw ie6 [20:42] Physically or virtually breaking? :D [20:42] (sc*** is a bad word, hope noone noticed i typed it :o= [20:42] ie6 is for windows newbs [20:42] physical/virtual [20:42] i always use valid html css [20:42] xhtml* [20:43] good :) you belong to the 5% that care about the semantics of "quality" then ;p [20:43] Slonkie: either? [20:43] lol :P [20:44] i site can be valid even if it supported ie6. [20:44] i tend to get nosey and mess with settings and files i shouldnt or have no reason to mess with [20:44] thats why i asked [20:44] knome: yeh, it can, with a few hacks for the 3px width bugs and other merry stuff ;P [20:47] SiDi, imho it doesn't really matter if you don't get the *exact* same layout/visual look with ie6 (or any other *old* browser) as long as you can say it is not broken for any browser [20:47] SiDi, using ie conditional comments is not bad. they are good if your layout would break ie6 otherwise. with them you can also serve a stripped-down version for ie. [20:48] knome: if exact is what your looking for print it out and make visitors fill out a form and postal mail it to them. [20:49] MTec007, you can have a print stylesheet which will be, if done right, very different from the css for screens [20:49] knome: i totally agree and that's what i used to do [20:50] knome: though, i'll now completely give ie6 up, to force people to move on (they're 15% now, i prefer making more efforts for the 10% who don't wanna hear of js/flash and the 2/3% that use lynx or similar browsers) [20:51] (btw, no browser supports print medias correctly... especially those other than gecko-based browsers ;p) [20:52] SiDi, i know, but that's also a decision to do to get more standards-supporting browsers [20:52] SiDi, and people are used to shitty prints anyway [20:53] Yeh [20:53] they expect that stupid heavy js function [20:53] or they dont dare printing [20:53] my websites have always been very sexy when printed ! [20:58] Is the advice for "Automatic Keyring" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager still valid? I'd like to not have to put in a password each boot for my wireless, especially since the machine is set to auto-log me in. [20:59] Once person noted that is caused issues, so I wasn't sure if there's an officially recommended method now [21:00] oh, but I bet Xunbuntu doesn't have this same issue - I should see the #unbuntu channel [21:07] having a look [21:08] stupid newbie question: I need to enable a wireless card on my system, but don [21:08] Found a number of other, yet still a few years old, refs - like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281 [21:08] 't have a System -> Administration option, where networking would be in normal ubuntu [21:08] Slor: its not uptodate imo [21:09] Slor: i never have to type my password [21:09] there is an app that keeps the system passwords for you [21:09] seahorse if i remember [21:09] it also keeps nm's wireless passwords [21:09] hmmm [21:09] boottime: Applications -> System [21:09] or Applications -> parameters [21:10] SiDi, I don't have a "Networking" under that system menu though [21:11] boottime: for the network stuff, i think you can right click the networkmanager's tray icon, and go to 'edit connections' [21:12] well, that was painfully simple. The mouse-over text is 'Wired network connection' so I wrongly assumed it didn't handle wireless. Thank you SiDi [21:13] you're welcome [21:14] how do I set that up SiDi? Does seahorse automatically take over the keyring somehow? [21:14] Its meant to [21:15] but you can edit the preferences, check applications -> system -> i don't remember [21:15] It's about keyring, you should find it easily :p [21:15] ok [21:15] coming back later [21:15] see you people [21:15] Is there any way to "scan" the local network i'm on to find a computer local ip? [21:22] Slonkie: arpscan [21:24] Is that an application TheSheep ? tried typing arpscan in terminal, dident work, tried searching for it, nothing.. [21:25] !info arpscan [21:25] Package arpscan does not exist in intrepid [21:25] hmm [21:26] sudo apt-get install arp-scan [21:26] !info arp-scan [21:26] arp-scan (source: arp-scan): arp scanning and fingerprinting tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6-2 (intrepid), package size 177 kB, installed size 528 kB [21:27] pcap_lookupdev: no suitable device found [21:27] when i type "arp-scan" in terminal [21:27] you'll need the sudo [21:28] Thanks === freego is now known as forces [22:22] hey guys i need some help with making some keyboard shortcuts [22:23] i am a noob so please take it slow [22:23] what is it that you are trying to achieve? [22:24] well, when i had ubuntu 8.04 cntrl - delete would open my terminal [22:24] right [22:24] Applications > Settings > Keyboard > Applications Shortcuts [22:25] cntrl right arrow would cycle through windows and left arrow would show me the desktop [22:25] Slonkie: i do that but everytime i try to add one it doesnt do it [22:27] ehm mine worked when i added them [22:28] ok so i go to the keyboard short cut tab.. i click add.. i scroll down to xfce4-terminal then i click add.. then i click OK [22:28] then it doesnt show up [22:29] ah! hahaha i am an idiot.. the window kept on hiding behind the original window.. so i didnt know it was there [22:29] sorry.. noob. [22:29] how do i fix this? trying to run apt-get E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory [22:29] heh no worries [22:29] sudo apt-get MTec007 ? [22:29] i did [22:29] Slonkie: you wouldnt happen to know which one of these things i select to cycle through the open windows do you? or show the desktop? [22:30] 2 secs [22:30] i dont think the last apt-get close properly it had a issue [22:30] Slonkie: thanks man [22:31] hmm i can't seem to find it, i tought i would be able to see the shortcut for alt+shift but i can't [22:34] hmmm does anyone know? [22:34] MTec007 try reading this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-lock-varlibdpkglock-open-11-resource-temporarily-unavailable-error.html [22:46] does anyone know how i can make the keyboard shortcut to switch between open windows.. like what alt-tab does? [22:46] except make it a different shortcut [22:50] ricochet, alt-tab is determined in xfwm4 settings afaik [22:51] so change it there [22:51] woah.. im a noob how do i do that? [22:51] settings/window manager? [22:51] or similar [22:53] beautiful [22:53] thanks man [22:53] xfwm4-settings for 4.6 [22:53] oh [22:53] np] [22:55] oh also.. sometimes the windows are too big for the screen... is there a way i can change that? [22:55] or stop that from happening? [22:59] anyone? [23:04] can anyone help me out with some of my windows going below the bottom bar and me not being able to see them? [23:09] is anyone in here? [23:09] i need help with another thing too [23:10] people are here, they must might now know the answer.... [23:10] !ask | ricochet [23:10] ricochet: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [23:12] ok well first off some of my windows keep on peeking below the bottom bar and so i cant see the very bottom or some of the features of the window.. and another thing, i am installing compiz and ran into a problem, i found the fix here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3993442#post3993442 but i dont understand how to get to the point where they are at [23:15] does anyone have a fix for this? [23:21] what does one do if they cannot see all the app windows in Xubuntu? sometimes they are too big to fit [23:31] can someone help me with a compiz fix in 9.04? here is the link but i dont understand it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3993442#post3993442 [23:35] ricochet, you should edit /usr/bin/compiz [23:36] do i just put that in the terminal? [23:37] using 64 bit version of xubuntu - synaptic is noticeably faster, as are all the file type operations, searching, installing etc [23:38] ricochet, run 'gksudo mousepad /usr/bin/compiz' [23:39] awesome [23:40] installing large packages is really fun to watch , it just rips through it [23:40] pity my ISP is not the same on their download speeds ... [23:41] knome: Then do i just save? [23:41] ricochet, yes. [23:42] knome: Dude thanks so much for helping! it WORKS!!! [23:43] ricochet, np. [23:43] good night everybody, i'm out [23:43] see you later [23:43] see you man [23:44] Hey does anyone know how to edit settings in compiz? [23:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/358796 [23:44] who's on jaunty can test that one? [23:45] loading site [23:45] so what should i test, lukinfore ? [23:46] is bug affects yu? [23:46] or not [23:46] that's the point [23:46] i don't understand the bug [23:46] scolling in htop should work as mouse 1? [23:46] uhm [23:46] scrolling in amn [23:47] *man [23:47] I don't know what man is [23:47] just type man man [23:47] and enter sure [23:48] when i type man man there is alot of text [23:48] nothing asking me to type sure :p [23:48] so, is it srollable? [23:50] well, when i press more the document shows in the terminal and i'm capable of scrolling the terminal, yes. [23:54] 'press more' ? [23:54] eeh how do i explain it? try opening man man in a small terminal [23:55] you'll be able to press "more" with enter [23:56] maybe your terminal is not xfce4-terminal? [23:56] cause there is no 'more' for me [23:56] oh might be [23:57] using the one in Accesories [23:57] it shows namual page, line, where --More usually appears to be