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| bcurtiswx | BUGabundo: i tell ya, that update notifier bug list is vicious | 04:13 |
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| YoBoY | good morning | 07:02 |
| deepspring | I found a bug in Python 2.6 on Ubuntu 9.04... do I discuss it here? | 09:50 |
| persia | Yes. | 09:50 |
| deepspring | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7046504 | 09:50 |
| deepspring | persia, cut and paste | 09:51 |
| deepspring | :p | 09:51 |
| persia | But it's best practice to file the bugs in launchpad, rather than as forums articles :) | 09:51 |
| deepspring | ok | 09:51 |
| deepspring | was trying to find a way around the problem | 09:52 |
| geser | what's the exact problem? /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages is listed in sys.path for python2.6 | 09:54 |
| geser | if you want to install to /usr then that's should be done through a package, so it seems to be sane to force /usr/local | 09:56 |
| geser | packages use "setup.py install --install-layout=deb" to get it installed to /usr | 09:57 |
| deepspring | forcing that /usr/local results in packages being installed to /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages which is ignored by python 2.6 | 09:57 |
| geser | so the problem only exists when --prefix=/usr/local is used? | 09:59 |
| deepspring | yes | 09:59 |
| persia | And it's only looking at dist-packages | 09:59 |
| deepspring | pretty much | 09:59 |
| deepspring | want me to paste sys.path | 10:00 |
| andol | deepspring: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/+bug/350016/comments/1 | 10:00 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/350016/+text) | 10:00 |
| geser | IIRC /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages is used by a locally installed python2.6 | 10:01 |
| deepspring | well this is the python package that came with 9.04 | 10:01 |
| geser | so I don't know what's the correct behaviour with --prefix=/usr/local | 10:02 |
| geser | doko: any comment on this? ^^ | 10:02 |
| deepspring | I've been trying to work around it.. but nothing I've tried works | 10:02 |
| persia | andol, Thanks: that's exactly the most relevant comment :) | 10:03 |
| deepspring | other than testing for 'Ubuntu' and '9.04' and adjusting prefixes to suit | 10:03 |
| geser | deepspring: does the application work when installed with --prefix=/usr and Ubuntu's python2.6? | 10:03 |
| persia | deepspring, geser Read andol's link. | 10:03 |
| andol | deepspring: Which problem are you trying to work around? When installing thru a package or as a upstream source package? | 10:03 |
| deepspring | when installing a package locally (the package is still being developed, no debs made yet) | 10:04 |
| deepspring | python setup.py install | 10:05 |
| andol | deepspring: Yes, then the link I gave you earlier is relevant :) | 10:05 |
| savvas | "python setup.py -n install --prefix=/usr" shows the same thing | 10:06 |
| savvas | copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.6/supybot/plugins/Web/test.py -> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/supybot/plugins/Web | 10:06 |
| savvas | I guess it needs that install-layout :) | 10:07 |
| savvas | but that's local for debian, isn't it? | 10:07 |
| deepspring | no idea | 10:07 |
| savvas | I mean a local parameter | 10:08 |
| savvas | "python setup.py -n install --prefix=/usr/local --install-layout=deb" | 10:08 |
| savvas | copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.6/supybot/plugins/Web/test.py -> /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/supybot/plugins/Web | 10:08 |
| deepspring | not very backwards compatible | 10:08 |
| andol | savvas: Actually, --prefix & --install-deb are mutually exclusive in 9.04. You might want to use --root instead. | 10:11 |
| andol | savvas: See bug #345086 as an example | 10:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 345086 in rdiff-backup "rdiff-backup installed in /usr/local/" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345086 | 10:12 |
| savvas | andol: thanks :) | 10:13 |
| deepspring | ok... so I'm going to need to test for the existence of dist-packages and make a symlink to site-packages when forcing a prefix of /usr/local | 10:16 |
| deepspring | this is going to be fun | 10:16 |
| * deepspring scratches head | 10:16 | |
| geser | why? | 10:18 |
| geser | site-packages is only for local python installations and dist-packages for the system python | 10:19 |
| deepspring | site-packages gets ignored in 2.6 | 10:19 |
| geser | only for the system python2.6 | 10:19 |
| geser | if somebody installs python 2.6 manually (from the tar.gz) it will use site-packages | 10:20 |
| deepspring | I'm not installing python, only an application, using the default python installed with Ubuntu 9.04 | 10:20 |
| geser | then you app should get installed to dist-packages so it can be used with python2.6 (from 9.04) | 10:21 |
| deepspring | yes.. but I also want it to be backwards compatible | 10:21 |
| deepspring | with 2.5 | 10:22 |
| andol | deepspring: Well, I'm not really a Python person, but shouldn't it be possible to do some kind of version checking in the install script? | 10:22 |
| geser | "python2.5 setup.py install" will install it to python2.5/site-packages | 10:22 |
| deepspring | adol, yes its pretty easy | 10:23 |
| deepspring | geser, its the path to the ui data (glade files) I'm more concerned about... in that thread I linked, I gave an example of the install script I'm using | 10:25 |
| deepspring | I have to have static paths for Glade files | 10:25 |
| geser | ah, I slowly begin to understand where your problem exactly is | 10:26 |
| deepspring | yus... | 10:27 |
| deepspring | the only fix I have for it at the moment, is using platform.dist() to get the OS details and adjusting the prefixes to suit | 10:28 |
| geser | what I don't understand is why you want to install to /usr and not /usr/local as the later one is for locally installed apps | 10:28 |
| deepspring | yeah I know | 10:28 |
| andol | Well, I think I'll leave this discussion to those of you who actually know and use Python :) Myself I only happend to have a couple of related bug report in myself head. | 10:29 |
| deepspring | Ubuntu 8.10 and earlier though default to /usr | 10:29 |
| deepspring | I'll reinstall 8.10 under VirtualBox and try to find a common ground I guess | 10:30 |
| geser | what about checking both locations? as it should be possible to install to /usr/local with python2.5 too | 10:32 |
| deepspring | should be... I'll have to reinstall 8.10 under a VM to find out (I have only one machine) | 10:33 |
| deepspring | I'm trying to adjust for forward compatibility as well as backward | 10:33 |
| deepspring | so far I'm failing | 10:33 |
| thekorn | soory, did not read the complete log yet, but what about using pkg_resources.resource_filename() to find the glade file in your script | 10:35 |
| deepspring | glade file is located outside of the python search path | 10:35 |
| deepspring | I guess I'll have to merge it back in | 10:36 |
| deepspring | ok I think I have solution around it... thanks thekorn search for that brought up a possibility | 10:38 |
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| deepspring | it means adjusting the package layout a bit though, and I will have to rethink the automatic desktop file creation :/ | 10:40 |
| deepspring | ok that aint working | 11:35 |
| deepspring | I give up... I'm guessing there is no way to have a backwards compatible program with 2.6 | 11:44 |
| deepspring | found a solution | 12:29 |
| deepspring | its a hack of a solution, but a solution | 12:29 |
| deepspring | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7047097&postcount=4 | 12:29 |
| deepspring | end of problem | 12:29 |
| deepspring | if it breaks it breaks | 12:30 |
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| miki4242 | hi all, just found this: http://patch-tracking.debian.net/ | 13:04 |
| miki4242 | not yet in any wiki, only one changelog | 13:04 |
| miki4242 | wiki = Ubuntu wiki | 13:04 |
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| cowbellemoo | Hyia, I'm new to bug work and I just got started improving reports on launchpad. A few of the ones I've subscribed to don't show up for me on my profile page. Does anyone know why that might be? | 16:28 |
| cowbellemoo | (one's status is invalid, the other is a dupe...does LP only show 'valid' bugs on your profile page?) | 16:29 |
| savvas | cowbellemoo: probably | 16:31 |
| savvas | I think yes :) | 16:31 |
| savvas | if a bug is invalid or a dupe it's hidden from bug searching as well | 16:32 |
| savvas | (unless you're in advanced search, I think there's an option for dupes and such) | 16:32 |
| cowbellemoo | Ah, I guess that makes sense to keep things free of clutter | 16:33 |
| savvas | yep | 16:35 |
| savvas | still, you got your karma points :) | 16:35 |
| savvas | thank you for helping out!! | 16:35 |
| cowbellemoo | ha, yeah I'm saving up to buy the fake moustache behind the counter. :D | 16:39 |
| savvas | cowbellemoo: if you make that a brainstorm idea, I'll support you :P | 16:43 |
| cowbellemoo | hehe! | 16:44 |
| andresmujica | ping dtchen | 18:35 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: is there a module for an SAA7130? I've no pci id | 19:43 |
| * bdmurray hits head | 19:44 | |
| bdmurray | Kernel driver in use: saa7134 | 19:44 |
| bdmurray | I guess that answers that | 19:44 |
| ogasawara | heh | 19:45 |
| BUGabundo1 | do you guys have any recent reports of system crashs and kernel panics?? | 19:47 |
| BUGabundo1 | I got 2 in under 24h, when this system never even had one in over 14 months | 19:47 |
| BUGabundo1 | using ext3 and NV, not stuff like ext4 or intel card, that are known to be a bit more buggy | 19:47 |
| BUGabundo1 | :( | 19:47 |
| BUGabundo1 | ogasawara: any thing ? | 19:49 |
| hggdh | er... any matches in LP? | 19:50 |
| bdmurray | sbeattie: Do you an easy way to do a dist upgrade? bug 358893 | 19:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 358893 in update-manager "Kubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 Upgrade crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/358893 | 19:50 |
| bdmurray | That's the 2nd one I've seen regarding partner and mismatches | 19:51 |
| sbeattie | bdmurray: http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/9.04-upgrade/kubuntu-8.04-to-9.04-beta-upgrade | 19:51 |
| BUGabundo1 | hggdh: too broad search | 19:53 |
| hggdh | ugh | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo1 | hggdh: searching for kernel panic won't help me much | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo1 | can't set a time frame for just last week jaunty | 19:54 |
| BUGabundo1 | apt-listchanges doesn't show anything serious (kernel, nvidia driver, alsa) | 19:54 |
| BUGabundo1 | just NM trunk | 19:54 |
| ogasawara | BUGabundo1: you'll have to get me specific info of the kernel panic, otherwise it's hard to narrow down possible bug reports | 19:56 |
| BUGabundo1 | ogasawara: I know, but I haven't any info on it... I'm using my laptop, as I always do, and it just froze... twice | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo1 | I get Caps lock blinking | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo1 | Linux blubug 2.6.28-11-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 8 04:39:23 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo1 | ogasawara: of course I'll try to help here, I'm the most interested person in debugging this, but I lack the data to help out more | 19:59 |
| sbeattie | BUGabundo1: anything show up in /var/log/kern.log before the reboot information? | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo1 | I'll pastebin it | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo1 | kern.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/148519/ | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo1 | kern.log.0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/148520/ | 20:02 |
| BUGabundo1 | Apr 10 19:18:56 blubug kernel: [ 1818.576309] general protection fault: 0000 [#4] SMP | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo1 | could this be it ? | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo1 | I get a few backtraces on shutdown | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo1 | never track down the cause. | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo1 | but a general protection fault is the 1st | 20:05 |
| sbeattie | BUGabundo1: the first issue is 'kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.28/mm/slub.c:2743!' (not good!) | 20:10 |
| sbeattie | BUGabundo1: file a bug against the kernel and attach those logs. ogasawara will want to see them. | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo1 | ok | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo1 | apporting it now | 20:11 |
| ogasawara | BUGabundo1: if you could also comment if you're doing anything in particular during the time you get this panic that would be great | 20:11 |
| BUGabundo1 | nope | 20:11 |
| BUGabundo1 | just browsing | 20:11 |
| ogasawara | BUGabundo1: I do see firefox segfaults just prior | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo1 | that's an old one | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo1 | fta and asac know about it | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo1 | firefox pre branch stuff | 20:12 |
| sbeattie | BUGabundo1: you may wish to boot to single-user and force a fsck on sda1 (is that /?) just to make sure your fs is sane as in kern.log.0, ext3 did some journal recovery cleanup on that fs. | 20:15 |
| BUGabundo1 | sbeattie: did that, twice now | 20:15 |
| BUGabundo1 | I always do it, after system freezes | 20:16 |
| BUGabundo1 | it already cause me data loss | 20:16 |
| BUGabundo1 | filling a bug on kdepim about it | 20:16 |
| BUGabundo1 | it suffers from that bug that Tso keeps talking about | 20:16 |
| BUGabundo1 | another thing, can some one triage bug 359227 ? | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 359227 in grub "grub did not install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359227 | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo1 | ogasawara: sbeattie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/359231 | 20:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 359231 in linux "system freeze and kernel panic" [Undecided,New] | 20:24 |
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| sbeattie | bdmurray: finally regen'ed my kubuntu hardy vm and have reproduced bug 358893 | 21:27 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/358893/+text) | 21:27 |
| sbeattie | bdmurray: of course, just enabling the partner archive on jaunty reproduces the error message. | 21:33 |
| bdmurray | sbeattie: well, that would have been easy to check | 21:34 |
| nailora | is there any simple way to save a core file when an application crashes and apport intercepts? sometimes on launchpad i am asked to provide a backtrace of crash after reporting a bug with apport, but at that point i have no chance to generate one (especially true for bugs that are not easy to trigger/have unknown reason). if i had a chance to save the core at the time of crash i could easily backtrace it later with gdb... | 23:26 |
| hggdh | nailora, if apport intercepted the crash, you can get it | 23:44 |
| hggdh | it will be stored under /var/crash. Just run 'apport-retrace -g <crash file> | 23:44 |
| hggdh | and you get gdb on the core | 23:44 |
| nailora | thx, they seem to be stored there, indeed. the ones i need are no longer there, but next time i suspect i might need one, i will copy it directly after the crash. | 23:46 |
| nailora | is there a reason this is not better integrated into apport | 23:47 |
| hggdh | well, it is | 23:52 |
| hggdh | apport-gtk reports on crashes; apport-retrace allows you to look at it locally, if you want | 23:52 |
| hggdh | I am not sure what you mean by "better integrated" | 23:53 |
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