| mdke | Rocket2DMn: I was thinking you could be an ideal person to run the Wiki session at the OpenWeek if you are around. What do you think? | 16:50 |
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| Rocket2DMn | When is openweek? | 16:51 |
| Rocket2DMn | I work during the day, I might be able to do evening sessions (US time) | 16:51 |
| mdke | Rocket2DMn: ok, tricky, it's between 15 and 23 UTC | 16:52 |
| Rocket2DMn | mdke, let met get back to you, i'm in the middle of something else atm | 16:53 |
| mdke | Rocket2DMn: sure. I'm just popping out myself | 16:54 |
| philip_ | i find people really don't need to know docbook to edit it, and rather, just need to know a <para> is like a <p> (basically) | 16:56 |
| mdke | philip_: yes, I agree entirely | 18:26 |
| mdke | philip_: the key is to give people the basic concepts that they can start contributing with | 18:28 |
| philip_ | people have fears they need to know more going in, but calming those fears with "nah, don't worry, the system is all setup and ready... just add content" | 18:29 |
| philip_ | especially if the validation tools are easy to use | 18:29 |
| mdke | right | 18:29 |
| mdke | of course, not everyone knows what a <p> is either, but the basic thing is to reassure people that it is easier than it looks, and that contribution is possible without having to understand everything Norman Walsh knows about docbook | 18:30 |
| philip_ | exactly | 18:30 |
| mdke | once people have done a couple of easy patches, they learn the markup by reading what is already there | 18:31 |
| philip_ | and people usually just copy a file and edit for new files | 18:31 |
| mdke | that's not to say that an easy to use WYSIWYG docbook editor wouldn't be awesomely helpful, of course it would | 18:33 |
| mdke | anyway, I suppose it's good to see a lot of interest in the docteam at the moment, hopefully it will turn into some contributions | 18:33 |
| mdke | and some improved ideas for the future | 18:33 |
| philip_ | interesting to watch ubuntu-doc and notice similar problems we face | 18:34 |
| philip_ | don't your xml files validate, so any xml ide will work fine? | 18:36 |
| mdke | I guess, but the ones we've tried have never been that great. | 18:36 |
| philip_ | i'm sitting here using XMLEditor and it seems fine | 18:38 |
| philip_ | well, testing rather | 18:38 |
| mdke | I'll give it a try sometime | 18:40 |
| mdke | philip_: ok, you've put that a lot more succinctly than me :) | 19:42 |
| philip_ | i almost didn't submit as when about finished i noticed your email go through but figured what the heck | 19:43 |
| philip_ | i tend to be overly wordy, so that was a rare instance | 19:44 |
| philip_ | :) | 19:45 |
| mdke | me too | 19:46 |
| mdke | right, let's have a play around with Andrew's wiki macro | 20:22 |
| mdke | man that looks good | 20:57 |
| nhandler | mdke: Where is the image from? | 20:57 |
| mdke | nhandler: it's the one that Andrew posted on the list | 20:58 |
| nhandler | So it is the Tangerine icon for synaptic. Did we check the license to make sure that we can use it on the wiki? | 21:00 |
| * nhandler can't remember what license the icons are released under | 21:00 | |
| mdke | nhandler: that's quite a good point. *none* of the icons on IconsPage have ever been checked for licensing compatibility | 21:03 |
| nhandler | mdke: I'm surprised that the Canonical Legal team hasn't checked any of them. Especially the ones on help.ubuntu.com | 21:06 |
| mdke | nhandler: I don't think the Canonical legal team's priority is to check licensing compatibility of community projects | 21:07 |
| mdke | assuming that there is a "legal team" | 21:07 |
| nhandler | There is a legal team | 21:08 |
| mdke | as in, more than one person? | 21:08 |
| nhandler | That I I do not know. I just know that there is something called the Canonical Legal Team | 21:09 |
| mdke | ah | 21:09 |
| mdke | I think we can resolve this by adding something to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/License | 21:13 |
| mdke | oh hey, human-icon-theme is under the cc-by-sa license too | 21:14 |
| mdke | that makes things easier | 21:15 |
| mdke | there are probably quite a few icons on IconsPage where that isn't the case though... | 21:18 |
| mdke | adiroiban: hiya | 21:42 |
| adiroiban | hi | 21:42 |
| mdke | adiroiban: I quite like the idea of having the docs sessions together, because the content is linked and because a "Docs Day" is a marketable concept, but translation is quite a logically separate topic, so if it suits you to do it on another day, or earlier on Friday, that's fine | 21:43 |
| mdke | adiroiban: or, I have no problem running the session | 21:43 |
| mdke | whatever is going to work best for everyone | 21:44 |
| adiroiban | ok | 21:44 |
| mdke | what do you think? | 21:45 |
| adiroiban | I prefer to do it in any other day :) | 21:45 |
| adiroiban | but I'm ok if you will run it on friday | 21:45 |
| mdke | what about earlier on Friday? | 21:46 |
| mdke | doesn't help? | 21:46 |
| adiroiban | nope | 21:46 |
| mdke | ok | 21:46 |
| adiroiban | 1 may is labor's day here and it's a bank day. I most probably go and visit my parent | 21:47 |
| adiroiban | my parents | 21:47 |
| * mdke nods | 21:47 | |
| mdke | well, I don't mind moving it to another day, or to run it myself on Friday. Let's see what emmajane thinks, the docs day has been kinda her idea | 21:47 |
| adiroiban | ok | 21:47 |
| mdke | alternatively, we could move all the docs sessions to tuesday | 21:47 |
| adiroiban | i would be more than happy :D | 21:48 |
| adiroiban | I can move my other sessions | 21:48 |
| mdke | they would fit too | 21:50 |
| adiroiban | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Day | 21:50 |
| adiroiban | I don't know if it's ok to have docs day on the 1st of May | 21:50 |
| adiroiban | it's a national holiday in many other countries | 21:50 |
| adiroiban | and I suppose people will stay away from the computers :) | 21:51 |
| mdke | although some other people might be more available because of the holiday | 21:51 |
| mdke | I don't know | 21:52 |
| adiroiban | me neigher | 21:53 |
| adiroiban | but all people I know (working in computer related businesses) tries to stay away from the computer during national holidays | 21:54 |
| mdke | hmm | 21:55 |
| mdke | today is a national holiday here, and I am here on irc :( | 21:55 |
| adiroiban | but maybe it's just a specific thing here in Romania | 21:55 |
| adiroiban | but I agree with you, we should know the oppinion of Dougie and Emma | 21:56 |
| DougieRichardson | you make it sound like we're a single entity | 21:57 |
| adiroiban | should we have it on Friday ? | 21:58 |
| DougieRichardson | I'm quite happy with the layout you've proposed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep | 22:03 |
| mdke | DougieRichardson: the problem with that layout is that Friday doesn't work for Adi, so we're wondering if Tuesday is an alternative. Otherwise we can just move the translation item | 22:09 |
| DougieRichardson | UTC is GMT -1 isn't it? | 22:11 |
| mdke | DougieRichardson: UTC and GMT are the same, but in the UK we are UTC+1 at the moment (BST) | 22:11 |
| DougieRichardson | so 1700 utc is 1800 gmt? | 22:11 |
| mdke | nope. 17:00 UTC is 17:00 GMT. But it is 18:00 in British Summer Time | 22:12 |
| mdke | (where we are now) | 22:12 |
| DougieRichardson | OK if its 1800 then I'm happy to move to Tuesday | 22:13 |
| mdke | awesome. Let's see if Emma is free then too | 22:13 |
| DougieRichardson | is this like last years openweek? | 22:14 |
| mdke | yeah | 22:14 |
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