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* persia peers about | 08:42 | |
persia | so, it's late, and we're disorganised. | 08:43 |
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persia | Are ember or imbrandon here? | 08:43 |
geser | ember seems to not be online | 08:45 |
persia | That's what I see too. | 08:45 |
geser | imbrandon is online but let's if he's afk or not | 08:45 |
persia | Well, if imbrandon stops by, we can hunt for the rest of MC. | 08:45 |
geser | have we quorum anyways? | 08:45 |
persia | Dunno. Let's check :) | 08:45 |
persia | jpds, nhandler nixternal dholbach soren ? | 08:46 |
persia | Maybe not :( | 08:47 |
vikashkoushik | Hi guys | 08:59 |
vikashkoushik | I did do a Demo on Ubuntu in my school. | 08:59 |
vikashkoushik | Will that be considered as a Contribution to Ubuntu while getting the email id? | 08:59 |
persia | vikashkoushik, A practice of regularly presenting Ubuntu can be considered a contribution to advocacy. | 09:00 |
persia | You'd want to combine it with other activities as part of your participation within Ubuntu. | 09:00 |
vikashkoushik | I am also giving solutions to people's problem in Launch Pad Answer Tracker & I just started Transilating Ubuntu in Tamil | 09:01 |
vikashkoushik | Is that enough? | 09:01 |
persia | I can't give an authoritative answer to that. | 09:03 |
persia | Your best guideline is really https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 09:03 |
vikashkoushik | I've already gone through that and I am already an Ubuntero | 09:04 |
persia | But the key things are that the contribution be recognised as significant to others in the community, and that it be sustained over a reasonable period of time (with an expectation of continuance) | 09:04 |
vikashkoushik | I've been contributing to Launch Pad Answer Tracker for only 2 weeks as I just came to know about it But I gave the Demo on Jan | 09:05 |
vikashkoushik | & during Feb I was burning CD's and distributing it | 09:05 |
vikashkoushik | & I am still continuing to do so | 09:06 |
vikashkoushik | Is this enough? | 09:07 |
persia | Cool. I'd recommend contacting your local Ubuntu group, and working with them, as part of building interaction with the community. | 09:07 |
vikashkoushik | How do I contact the Local Ubuntu group? I live in Chennai,Tamil Nadu,India. | 09:08 |
persia | #ubuntu-in is probably a good place to start. | 09:09 |
vikashkoushik | thanks | 09:10 |
jpds | persia: I'm here now. | 09:17 |
persia | jpds, Well, imbrandon never showed, and we'd still not have quorum. | 09:20 |
vikashkoushik | Shall Post on my wiki page about the demo I did in Jan? | 09:50 |
persia | vikashkoushik, You will want to document everything on your wiki page before you apply. | 09:52 |
vikashkoushik | Persia,Do you think the period I have been contributing is enough? | 09:53 |
persia | vikashkoushik, The guideline is at least two months, but demonstration of activity that is considered sustained by your peers. I haven't worked with you, so I don't have an opinion. | 09:53 |
vikashkoushik | I didn't get you. | 09:54 |
vikashkoushik | persia, i didn't get you clearly. | 09:58 |
persia | Understood, which is why I /queried you, to preserve the clenliness of these logs. | 09:59 |
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* lool pokes slangasek | 14:01 | |
lool | The release meeting shows up now on my google calendar agenda, was it moved? | 14:01 |
lool | Crap, 14 UTC | 14:01 |
davidbarth | lool: really? yes, i think it moved; i had it at 3pm CET initially | 14:03 |
persia | My memory is that it used to be at 15 UTC. I think it moved to follow BST. | 14:04 |
lool | persia: It was supposed to happen in one hour, but I raised that it was conflicting with some call | 14:05 |
lool | slangasek looked at moving it one hour earlier, but announced it for next hour | 14:05 |
lool | So either it changed at the last minute again, or there was confusion | 14:06 |
lool | I just updated the google cal entry though | 14:06 |
dendrobates | this did seem unusually early for slangasek. | 14:06 |
lool | dendrobates, mdz: apparently meeting is next hour | 14:06 |
lool | Which might conflict with your call | 14:06 |
mdz | lool: I had already asked randa to reschedule that call, but it looks like she forgot to do it before she left for the weekend | 14:14 |
mdz | dendrobates: ^^ | 14:14 |
dendrobates | mdz: are you working today? Or are you just showing up to the release meeting? | 14:15 |
mdz | dendrobates: neither | 14:16 |
mdz | I just happened to be on IRC, which I'm quickly realizing is a mistake if I expect to benefit from the bank holiday | 14:16 |
lool | mdz: Eh quite certainly :) enjoy your long WE | 14:17 |
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* slangasek waves | 14:58 | |
* nhandler waves back to slangasek | 14:58 | |
* rickspencer3 waves | 14:58 | |
* rickspencer3 yawns | 14:59 | |
fader_ | Hello | 15:00 |
lool | Morning slangasek | 15:00 |
nhandler | So it is time for the release team meeting, correct? | 15:00 |
slangasek | nhandler: yes | 15:00 |
lool | Yup | 15:00 |
robbiew | hi | 15:01 |
slangasek | 'lo | 15:01 |
* pgraner o/ | 15:01 | |
lool | slangasek: I'm afraid I milestoned a couple of bugs in the last hours; Bug 359049, Bug 358961 | 15:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 359049 in linux "imx51 udeb hardcodes linux version in vmlinuz binary name" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359049 | 15:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 358961 in ubiquity "Broken window icon in top left corner" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/358961 | 15:02 |
* tedg has coffee, therefore is ready to go! | 15:02 | |
lool | pgraner: May I ask immediately whether a last kernel upload is planned? :) | 15:02 |
slangasek | sbeattie, Hobbsee, ScottK: ping? | 15:02 |
slangasek | lool: wait till we start the meeting? :) | 15:02 |
pgraner | lool: we are done | 15:02 |
nhandler | slangasek: ScottK said he wouldn't be able to make the meeting | 15:02 |
lool | slangasek: I was abusing this early minutes where everybody joins ;) | 15:03 |
lool | pgraner: Ok; that does influence things then, thanks | 15:03 |
* sbeattie waves hello | 15:03 | |
rickspencer3 | pgraner: sweet | 15:03 |
rickspencer3 | congrats kernel team! | 15:03 |
lool | Yep, nice! | 15:04 |
pgraner | rickspencer3: don't party just yet | 15:04 |
slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:04 |
MootBot | Meeting started at 09:04. The chair is slangasek. | 15:04 |
MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 15:04 |
lool | Albeit there are bugs :) | 15:04 |
* rickspencer3 recorks champagne bottle | 15:04 | |
slangasek | I'm assuming anyone located in the UK or Germany is taking their well-deserved holiday, so let's get started :) | 15:04 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Outstanding actions | 15:05 |
MootBot | New Topic: Outstanding actions | 15:05 |
ogra | there is no holiday in the US ? | 15:05 |
nhandler | There is ogra | 15:05 |
nhandler | It is Good Friday | 15:05 |
tedg | ogra: Not a national bank holiday though. | 15:05 |
ogra | ah | 15:06 |
slangasek | pgraner: was the power cable issue for 340014 taken care of? I have no idea if that's even still an issue, and it obviously wasn't recorded in the bug :) | 15:06 |
fader_ | slangasek: I got the machine in question back to manjo who had the power cord | 15:06 |
fader_ | He was running tests on it and I asked him to file any bugs he came across | 15:06 |
slangasek | ok, so the power cord is no longer an issue, at least | 15:07 |
fader_ | Right | 15:07 |
slangasek | fader_: how about sound input bugs on netbooks? Everything filed that should be? | 15:07 |
fader_ | slangasek: Yes, all the bugs that cr3 and I encountered are filed and seem to have been assigned appropriately | 15:07 |
fader_ | I also updated the bug numbers in http://people.ubuntu.com/~fader/hw-testing/netbooks/ | 15:08 |
fader_ | (Modulo the ones that manjo is filing; I need to get those numbers from him) | 15:08 |
slangasek | ok; they don't appear to have shown up on the release team radar as targeted bugs, were they meant to? | 15:08 |
fader_ | I'm honestly not sure. I know mdz looked at them and commented, but I don't know if anything further needs to happen to them | 15:09 |
slangasek | fader_: could you email me a list of those bugs after, so I can have a look at what we've got? | 15:09 |
fader_ | slangasek: Absolutely... I'll email them to you | 15:10 |
slangasek | [ACTION] fader_ to email slangasek the list of netbook sound input bugs | 15:10 |
MootBot | ACTION received: fader_ to email slangasek the list of netbook sound input bugs | 15:10 |
slangasek | sbeattie: how are we with regression-release bug triaging? | 15:10 |
sbeattie | slangasek: I sent off an email to the qa team about regression-release tagged bugs, but I think everyone's too busy dealing with newer bugs to go back to those at the moment. | 15:10 |
slangasek | ok :( | 15:10 |
slangasek | (action: have fewer bugs next week) | 15:11 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] QA team | 15:11 |
MootBot | New Topic: QA team | 15:11 |
slangasek | moving on, then | 15:11 |
fader_ | Hardware testing has nothing exciting to report... we are having checkbox issues that are preventing some machines from reporting results correctly, so I am in the process of backfilling by running checkbox manually | 15:12 |
fader_ | We've also hit bug 356518 on a couple of machines which prevents them from booting with grub when the serial console is being used, but they work fine without that option | 15:12 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 356518 in grub "HP ML110 fails to boot with grub after server install via PXE / serial console" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356518 | 15:12 |
fader_ | So I'm not sure it's quite as high priority as it seemed when I first ran into it | 15:13 |
fader_ | Other than that everything is passing and we're not seeing any real issues | 15:13 |
slangasek | I think we should still be tracking that bug, even if we may not be able to get it fixed (as opposed to release-noted) | 15:14 |
fader_ | slangasek: Yeah, it's definitely an annoying bug, but the fact that it only appears to happen on a small number of systems and under very specific conditions makes me feel less worried about it :) | 15:14 |
* slangasek nods | 15:15 | |
slangasek | ok, cool; thanks for the update | 15:15 |
slangasek | sbeattie: anything to add from your corner? | 15:15 |
sbeattie | not particularly, I haven't seen anything significant come through in the regresisons department. | 15:16 |
slangasek | great! | 15:16 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Desktop team | 15:17 |
MootBot | New Topic: Desktop team | 15:17 |
rickspencer3 | looks like we have quite a few bugs on release team radar | 15:17 |
rickspencer3 | generally, I divide them between "xorg" and "other" | 15:17 |
slangasek | two or three :) | 15:17 |
rickspencer3 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 15:18 |
slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 15:18 |
MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 15:18 |
rickspencer3 | in the "other" category, none are very concerning to me, except bug #277589 | 15:18 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 277589 in hotkey-setup "sony brighness on a geforce series older than 8 (nvclock works fine)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277589 | 15:18 |
rickspencer3 | but that's only because it's new to me, and I haven't had a chance to follow up and see what's going on with it | 15:18 |
slangasek | rickspencer3: your list has one more bug than mine, do you know which bug that is? | 15:19 |
rickspencer3 | slangasek: no | 15:19 |
rickspencer3 | it's probably a dupe | 15:19 |
rickspencer3 | I was copying and pasting between lists early this morning :) | 15:19 |
slangasek | 349992 | 15:19 |
slangasek | which isn't targeted; does it need to be? | 15:19 |
rickspencer3 | no | 15:20 |
rickspencer3 | that is left over | 15:20 |
slangasek | ah, it's been untargeted by bryce, ok | 15:20 |
rickspencer3 | sorry | 15:20 |
rickspencer3 | yeah | 15:20 |
rickspencer3 | in terms of xorg it's only intel that has any real issues right now | 15:20 |
rickspencer3 | the intel engineers have been helping bryce quite a bit | 15:20 |
rickspencer3 | as I noted on the release page, bryce suspects that there are one or two underling causes for all the "freeze" bugs, so he's sorting through the data today | 15:21 |
* slangasek nods | 15:21 | |
slangasek | I look forward to the good news next week :) | 15:21 |
rickspencer3 | I suspect we are in good enough shape to ship, as all of the bugs ... | 15:21 |
rickspencer3 | can be worked around by turning off desktop effects | 15:22 |
rickspencer3 | but that's painful, so I'm looking forward to good news too :) | 15:22 |
rickspencer3 | bug #341898 also seems to be xorg, but I'm not clear if it's still an issue or not | 15:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 341898 in mesa "Mythtv frontend does not display any fonts" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341898 | 15:23 |
rickspencer3 | I should be able to find out next week after everyone is back from holidays | 15:23 |
rickspencer3 | (that's it from desktop team, unless there are questions) | 15:23 |
slangasek | superm1 (mythtv) isn't on holidays | 15:23 |
rickspencer3 | okay | 15:23 |
slangasek | so if the bug needs followed up on you could tag him | 15:23 |
rickspencer3 | I'll ping him after this | 15:23 |
davidbarth | slangasek, rickspencer3: while we're on the desktop, can I also mention the bugs on our radar (https://wiki.canonical.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/JauntyReleaseStatus) | 15:23 |
slangasek | (well, I'm presuming a bit; he's in the US, he might still be on holiday) | 15:24 |
rickspencer3 | slangasek: ack | 15:24 |
rickspencer3 | davidbarth: thanks for bringing up bug #358775 | 15:25 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 358775 in gnome-panel "Messaging Indicator icon should appear as the leftmost icon" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/358775 | 15:25 |
rickspencer3 | I think it's an easy fix (non-intrusive) but it is really late for the design team to start checking whether everything is to spec | 15:25 |
slangasek | davidbarth: sure - the only one of those that isn't targeted currently is 331369, I guess we should target that if you're looking for an exception | 15:26 |
slangasek | (done) | 15:26 |
davidbarth | rickspencer3: tedg may be able to comment better for #358775 | 15:26 |
rickspencer3 | slangasek: if we do 358775 I suppose we'll need an exception as well | 15:26 |
rickspencer3 | also, it will impact screen shots, documentation, etc... | 15:26 |
davidbarth | slangasek: yes, will do; it's a one liner, but a regression potential | 15:26 |
davidbarth | rickspencer3: correct | 15:27 |
slangasek | 358775> I thought I already pushed through an update for that, or was I just reading patches? | 15:27 |
davidbarth | rickspencer3: also #317271 and #357455 are dups apparently, and not a trivial change | 15:27 |
slangasek | ah, yes, was just reading my bug mail :) | 15:27 |
davidbarth | rickspencer3: we are still evaluating whether the change is worth the potential impact | 15:28 |
rickspencer3 | davidbarth: which change, you mean mt's move the icon bug? | 15:28 |
rickspencer3 | 358775 ? | 15:28 |
davidbarth | rickspencer3: no, the "logout..." that exist immediately if you have another session opened with the same account | 15:29 |
rickspencer3 | right | 15:29 |
davidbarth | rickspencer3: it's an odd case | 15:29 |
rickspencer3 | davidbarth: shall we discuss outside the meeting? | 15:29 |
davidbarth | rickspencer3: sure | 15:29 |
slangasek | rickspencer3: btw, in response to the freeze mail's request to "let the release team know" about any bugs that should be on the radar but aren't, I got an email from a user that's led me to be concerned about the state of plasma-widget-network-manager | 15:30 |
slangasek | [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager | 15:30 |
MootBot | LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager | 15:30 |
slangasek | seems there's lots of breakage where wireless passwords are concerned; could you have Riddell follow up on this when he's back from holiday? | 15:30 |
rickspencer3 | hmmm | 15:30 |
rickspencer3 | yes | 15:30 |
slangasek | (p-w-n-m is the default NM frontend for kubuntu 9.04) | 15:31 |
rickspencer3 | I'll see what's going on in #kubuntu-devel today | 15:31 |
slangasek | ok | 15:31 |
slangasek | thanks | 15:31 |
rickspencer3 | see if the team is dialed in | 15:31 |
nhandler | Not much activity Riddell | 15:31 |
slangasek | [ACTION] rickspencer3 to follow up with Kubuntu team regarding state of plasma-widget-network-manager and encrypted wireless | 15:31 |
MootBot | ACTION received: rickspencer3 to follow up with Kubuntu team regarding state of plasma-widget-network-manager and encrypted wireless | 15:31 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Mobile team | 15:32 |
MootBot | New Topic: Mobile team | 15:32 |
slangasek | lool: hi | 15:32 |
lool | list of specs and bugs on our radar: | 15:32 |
lool | [link] <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap> | 15:32 |
MootBot | LINK received: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap> | 15:32 |
lool | current high-level status per topic: | 15:32 |
lool | - UNR: I saw no notify-osd complaints; good shape except for intel graphics regression on eeepcs (349314, 344443) and pending-upload netbook-launcher gtk label translation issue 356970 | 15:32 |
lool | - MID image is as good as usual | 15:32 |
lool | - armel netbook images: still need plenty of testing since the latest kernel changes (all of iop32x, versatile, ixp4xx have been changed for various bugs); still need a d-i build (in unapproved again currently) | 15:32 |
lool | - armel's "iMX51 Babbage": dailies are building, would have liked fixing 359049, but probably doesn't warrant a kernel upload, everything seems to work at this point; some unfortunate issues preventing correct use of USB and wifi; 356517 breaks NM on wired, asac is uploading a fix soon; need some kind of release notes for this flavour | 15:33 |
lool | - VFP: pango uploaded, gtk+ ready but being QA-ed (builds were slow yesterday), ffmpeg-debian patch ready, needs review, testing and upload; missing cairo still | 15:33 |
lool | - wont make the release: poulsbo, touchscreen | 15:33 |
lool | - lpia: overall good shape, d-i images were fixed recently | 15:33 |
lool | - armel: overall good shape; update-initramfs/flash-kernel 358762 needs fixing before release though, but has a proposed fix (needs testing and upload) | 15:33 |
lool | - important bugs I'd like to cover: | 15:33 |
lool | 349314: slowness on intel graphics on eeepcs; Paul Larson says it wasn't this patch causing regressions, Andy says it was, Matt asks for a bug for the regressions | 15:33 |
lool | 358762: want advice / ack on proposed changes | 15:33 |
lool | 359049: don't think this warrants a kernel upload, but am taking opinions | 15:33 |
lool | (done pasting) | 15:33 |
lool | Ah there's something I forgot to write down: I've asked for more armel buildds yesterday as we had a growing backlog of needs build packages on armel | 15:34 |
slangasek | I'll process the d-i asap | 15:34 |
lool | and only 3 builders with 2 being busy on openoffice and openjdk | 15:34 |
lool | AFAIK, one more openjdk upload is still needed | 15:34 |
ogra | wasnt that just done some mins ago ? | 15:35 |
lool | infinity has set up our livefs builder as buildd temporarily and this helped a lot | 15:35 |
lool | ogra: No, yesterday evening | 15:35 |
lool | ogra: Oh openjdk? | 15:35 |
ogra | openjdk-6 (6b14-1.4.1-0ubuntu6) jaunty; urgency=low | 15:35 |
ogra | * Fix native2ascii jdk test case, which let the jdk testsuite fail. | 15:35 |
ogra | 20min ago | 15:35 |
slangasek | I just approved an openjdk fix, yes | 15:35 |
lool | Not sure whether that's the final one | 15:35 |
* ogra hopes so | 15:35 | |
lool | Anyway, we can discuss this later | 15:36 |
ogra | with the archive rebuild and the slow buioldds i really fear we wont have built everything by release on armel | 15:36 |
slangasek | 359049> yes, milestoning for -updates | 15:36 |
slangasek | hmm - or should that be declined altogether, I guess | 15:36 |
lool | Updates sound bad | 15:36 |
lool | As we don't distinguish between jaunty and jaunty-updates in cdimage/debian-cd | 15:37 |
lool | I'd rather have the same udeb name for both | 15:37 |
lool | It's either now, or karmic | 15:37 |
sbeattie | lool: do we need an ubuntu-mid alternate iso target on the iso tracker? would that have caught the issues with that image an the mini 9 that made it through the beta? | 15:37 |
lool | Since the debian-cd/cdimage stuff is versionned per dist, I don't strongly care that we have a hack in an old branch of debian-cd | 15:37 |
lool | sbeattie: We're not really committed to supporting that officially, but we could have one if it helps getting more testing / better testing | 15:38 |
lool | But when there are issues, we're fixing them as part of lpia QA | 15:38 |
slangasek | 358762> can you set that bug back to new and subscribe ubuntu-release, then? | 15:39 |
lool | sure | 15:39 |
ogra | we could just upload it :) | 15:39 |
ogra | and close it .. the fix is three lines | 15:39 |
lool | done | 15:39 |
slangasek | well, he wanted an ack | 15:40 |
lool | ogra: I want a second opinion | 15:40 |
slangasek | that's how you get one of those :) | 15:40 |
ogra | heh | 15:40 |
ogra | k | 15:40 |
slangasek | I think I've digested everything above; did I miss anything you needed comments on? | 15:40 |
lool | I'd like to know decisions on the other two | 15:41 |
lool | 349314: 359049: | 15:41 |
lool | 359049: I take it that we agree no kernel uploads anymore, so we'll stick to current hardcoding? | 15:41 |
slangasek | yes | 15:41 |
lool | 349314: will that be fixed in SRU? | 15:41 |
lool | pgraner: ^ | 15:41 |
slangasek | 349314> what decision do you need? sounds like the bug isn't fully triaged yet | 15:41 |
lool | I hoped we'd have more recent info, or a plan | 15:42 |
lool | It's the worst bug hitting UNR / EeePCs users | 15:42 |
slangasek | that looks appropriate for an SRU, IMHO | 15:43 |
pgraner | lool: we are working with upstream, and will be SRU | 15:43 |
lool | Shall we provide a ppa kernel for eeepc users? release note it? | 15:43 |
pgraner | lool: prob could do with a release note | 15:43 |
slangasek | yes | 15:43 |
slangasek | [ACTION] slangasek to add release-note task for bug #349314 | 15:43 |
MootBot | ACTION received: slangasek to add release-note task for bug #349314 | 15:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 349314 in linux "[i915] allocate MCHBAR space & enable if necessary" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349314 | 15:43 |
lool | Ok; thanks for discussion | 15:43 |
lool | done for mobile, unless there are any questions? | 15:43 |
slangasek | none for me | 15:44 |
slangasek | thanks | 15:44 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Kernel team | 15:44 |
MootBot | New Topic: Kernel team | 15:44 |
pgraner | slangasek: here goes the cut n paste | 15:44 |
pgraner | * Bug:348275: iwlagn: NM applet doesn't connect to WPA2 | 15:44 |
pgraner | - Different cards, different systems, possibly a supplicant issue. Given the symptoms no critical. | 15:44 |
pgraner | * Bug:336055: wrong ESSIDs shown after resume | 15:44 |
pgraner | - Have a fix (abi bumper) we can add if we have to spin another kernel. | 15:44 |
pgraner | * Bug:350491: hibernation should not be allowed when running kernel is gone from disk | 15:44 |
pgraner | - Will have to check with apw on the status. | 15:44 |
pgraner | * Bug:356975: imx51 oops after watchdog call | 15:44 |
pgraner | - No fix, we will keep working, if we spin a new kernel we might be able to include. | 15:44 |
pgraner | * Bug:331589: system beep in jaunty is the most annoying sound known to man | 15:44 |
pgraner | - Fix Committed | 15:44 |
pgraner | * Bug:340014: suspend/resume fails on Samsung NC10 | 15:44 |
pgraner | - Looking to be a BIOS or Hardware issue. Shipping hardware to cking to see if he can determine root cause. Possible SRU post-release. | 15:44 |
pgraner | * Bug:358574: [drm:i915_gem_idle] *ERROR* hardware wedged | 15:45 |
pgraner | - Intel freeze issues. rickspencer3 covered in his status. | 15:45 |
lool | 356975> You have something to include? | 15:46 |
lool | pgraner: In general, do you have any not included iMX51 patches around the corner? | 15:46 |
pgraner | lool: are you asking if we are holding back patches? | 15:46 |
lool | No, I had in mind that you might have received a bunch to review, and might not have time to consider them or perhaps they aren't suitable for pre-release merging | 15:47 |
lool | (I wasn't included in the kernel drops, and it's been a while since the previous one, so I'm hoping that FSL sent fixes for the most annoying bugs) | 15:47 |
pgraner | lool: no patches that I'm aware of, can you be more specific? | 15:47 |
pgraner | lool: I haven't seen patchs from FSL in weeks | 15:48 |
lool | pgraner: I wish for USB fixes and perhaps getting the wifi in shape, but I don't know how much hardware versus software these issues are; FSL is aware though | 15:48 |
ogra | the prob with 356975 is that it is only reproducable in use with NM | 15:48 |
ogra | which in turn waits for 356517 first | 15:48 |
slangasek | if there's any chance the right place to fix 350491 is outside the kernel package itself, we should probably consider that, so we have a chance to fix that before release | 15:48 |
lool | pgraner: Ok; too bad then, I hope we'll see patches in the future and they will be SRU-able | 15:48 |
lool | pgraner: thanks for the update! | 15:48 |
pgraner | lool: np | 15:49 |
slangasek | pgraner: is there a test kernel with the fix for 336055 that I could test here, to confirm that it fixes it? | 15:49 |
slangasek | 358574> I didn't see this covered in rickspencer3's status report | 15:49 |
pgraner | slangasek: I can get rtg to build you one | 15:49 |
slangasek | I'd appreciate it | 15:50 |
pgraner | slangasek: that is the Intel freeze issues we have 3 or four different freeze bugs that upstream think are all related | 15:50 |
slangasek | ok | 15:50 |
pgraner | Thats all from kernel team... | 15:50 |
rickspencer3 | slangasek: ack what pgraner said regarding 358574 | 15:51 |
rickspencer3 | it's part of the whole "freeze" issue | 15:51 |
* slangasek nods | 15:51 | |
pgraner | slangasek: if we don't get fixes we prob should do a release note | 15:51 |
slangasek | agreed | 15:51 |
slangasek | it's on the radar for now, we can sort that when we're a little closer to release and know more | 15:52 |
rickspencer3 | I think there is a lot going on upstream as well, so an SRU may become possible if we want to go that route | 15:52 |
slangasek | we'll probably need to | 15:52 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Foundations team | 15:52 |
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slangasek | robbiew: hi | 15:52 |
robbiew | hi | 15:52 |
robbiew | * Bug:339898: migration assistant offered on full-disk installs - Assigned to evand for investigation. | 15:53 |
robbiew | this was opened yesterday (I think)...and doubt evand had a chance to look at it before leaving | 15:53 |
robbiew | on holiday | 15:53 |
slangasek | it was opened weeks ago, actually | 15:54 |
slangasek | turned up in beta QA testing | 15:54 |
robbiew | ah | 15:54 |
robbiew | whoops | 15:54 |
robbiew | 03-09 | 15:55 |
robbiew | not 04-09 | 15:55 |
robbiew | heh | 15:55 |
robbiew | in any case...seems to have sat | 15:55 |
robbiew | so I assigned to evand and will talk to him next week | 15:55 |
* slangasek nods | 15:55 | |
robbiew | Bug:309411: bouncycastle MIR - Is this waiting on response regarding enabling testsuite? noticed it was marked Incomplete by kees. | 15:55 |
slangasek | yeah, that should be assigned to me, really | 15:56 |
robbiew | heh | 15:56 |
slangasek | (I'm partway through getting the testsuite enabled; so that bug'll be closed soon) | 15:56 |
robbiew | :) | 15:57 |
robbiew | ok | 15:57 |
robbiew | Bug 350016: aclocal python.m4 broken - The fix by doko works around the issue with "site-packages" vs "dist-packages", but introduces another with the path associated with --prefix now always ignored, i.e. /usr/local is always used. We will need to figure out a better workaround, if possible. | 15:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 350016 in python2.6 "wrong quoting in aclocal's python.m4 check" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350016 | 15:57 |
lool | Ack, these causes a bunch of FTBFS again | 15:57 |
robbiew | not sure what to do on this one, as doko is having to workaround an issue we didn't create | 15:58 |
slangasek | I think the workaround needs to be dropped; I believe doko said on #ubuntu-release that he was going to revert that today, though I haven't seen it yet | 15:58 |
robbiew | agree | 15:59 |
robbiew | ok | 15:59 |
robbiew | doko: around? | 15:59 |
robbiew | I'll post a comment in the bug to recommend the dropping of the "fix" | 15:59 |
* slangasek nods | 15:59 | |
robbiew | Bug 354793: apt cronjob fails in some timezones - jdstrand posted a proposed fix to apt.cron.daily, and looks to be waiting on the submitter to validate it. | 16:00 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 354793 in apt "date returns "invalid date" for some timezone's DST " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354793 | 16:00 |
jdstrand | actually, mvo committed it | 16:00 |
robbiew | ah | 16:01 |
lool | It's bank holiday in germany, he's probably not around | 16:01 |
robbiew | sweet | 16:01 |
jdstrand | (not to jaunty yet) | 16:01 |
robbiew | ok | 16:01 |
slangasek | so is mvo the assignee for jaunty? | 16:01 |
jdstrand | we spoke verbally that he is, yes | 16:01 |
slangasek | marked | 16:01 |
jdstrand | I don't recall what the bug says | 16:01 |
robbiew | nothing...from mvo heh | 16:01 |
jdstrand | there is another bug that will go with that one that we are also working on | 16:02 |
robbiew | ack | 16:02 |
robbiew | Bug 357884: "pycentral rtinstall" does not add python2.6 symlinks - last comment indicates that the solution is being discussed between cjwatson and mvo. | 16:03 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 357884 in python-central ""pycentral rtinstall" script does not add symlinks for python2.6 on upgrade" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357884 | 16:03 |
* slangasek nods | 16:03 | |
robbiew | Bug 316756: login.defs conffile prompt on upgrade - appears that james_w has released a fix for this one | 16:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 316756 in system-tools-backends "conffile prompt on upgrade to jaunty" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316756 | 16:04 |
ogra | wow, that one is returning every second release | 16:04 |
slangasek | should stop returning if we kill off system-tools-backends :P | 16:04 |
slangasek | in the meantime, fix applied | 16:04 |
* ogra remembers he had hunted the same one down in breezy | 16:04 | |
slangasek | robbiew: anything else we should be tracking? | 16:05 |
robbiew | not that I know of | 16:05 |
slangasek | ok | 16:06 |
slangasek | thanks | 16:06 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Server team | 16:06 |
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slangasek | dendrobates: hi | 16:06 |
dendrobates | hi | 16:06 |
dendrobates | bug 350089 | 16:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 350089 in ecryptfs-utils "package ecryptfs-utils 73-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350089 | 16:07 |
robbiew | I ran into this one on upgrade...have /home on a separate partition | 16:07 |
slangasek | on upgrade, or on a reinstall preserving /home? | 16:08 |
dendrobates | robbiew: I don't think kirkland has been able to reproduce it. | 16:08 |
robbiew | reinstalled | 16:08 |
robbiew | but preserved /home | 16:09 |
slangasek | well, it's not clear why ecryptfs-utils is being removed here | 16:09 |
slangasek | and that seems to be the bug we're tracking | 16:09 |
robbiew | well...maybe I had a different issue | 16:09 |
slangasek | with the removal failure being a bit of UI unpleasantness, which is nevertheless deliberate? | 16:09 |
dendrobates | slangasek: yes, kirkland believes it is a bug in the update-manager logic, per his last comment. | 16:10 |
slangasek | ok | 16:10 |
robbiew | great :/ | 16:10 |
dendrobates | slangasek: I have not gotten an update from hom this morning, though. | 16:10 |
slangasek | alright, we'll pursue that one afterwards then | 16:10 |
slangasek | dendrobates: any other bugs that we should be tracking for server? | 16:10 |
dendrobates | apart from that, we have a vmbuilder regression. | 16:11 |
slangasek | bug #? | 16:12 |
dendrobates | getting. | 16:12 |
sbeattie | bug 342359? | 16:12 |
dendrobates | bug 342359 | 16:12 |
dendrobates | yep | 16:12 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 342359 in vm-builder "[jaunty] ubuntu-vm-builder crashed with ioctl in create()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342359 | 16:13 |
dendrobates | jdstrand: has a work around ready to upload. | 16:13 |
slangasek | ok; will watch for that in the queue today | 16:13 |
dendrobates | he is waiting for an approval from soren that has not come. | 16:13 |
dendrobates | ok. | 16:13 |
slangasek | anything else? | 16:14 |
dendrobates | nope, I think that is all. | 16:14 |
slangasek | ok, thanks | 16:14 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] MOTU | 16:14 |
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slangasek | nhandler: were you covering for ScottK today? | 16:14 |
nhandler | Yes slangasek | 16:15 |
nhandler | The only issue that he wanted to bring up was the Python 2.6 transition | 16:15 |
nhandler | There are still several transition bugs (some with patches) that need to be approved and then sponsored | 16:15 |
nhandler | However, the list has been decreasing at a nice rate | 16:16 |
slangasek | the two targeted bugs I have for python 2.6 are 353688 and 354415; is there a longer list somewhere? | 16:16 |
nhandler | slangasek: I have not seen one. I only know about the bugs where motu-release or ubuntu-universe-sponsors are subscribed. | 16:17 |
nhandler | Those are the only ones I have "lists" for | 16:17 |
nhandler | I could try and put together a list of bugs if that is desired | 16:17 |
slangasek | if they're all in process, no need | 16:18 |
slangasek | was mainly wondering if there were bugs I could help along, but if they're waiting on motu-release or u-u-s then I already know how to do that :) | 16:19 |
nhandler | slangasek: I think most/if not all of them are in progress. I will try to verify this, and create a list of any transition bugs that need someone to create a patch for | 16:19 |
slangasek | there are also some initial FTBFS bugs resulting from the autobuild retest; anyone interested in working on those for universe? | 16:19 |
nhandler | I'm not aware of any individual who is working on those bugs. \ | 16:21 |
slangasek | fair enough | 16:21 |
nhandler | However, I can try to change that ;) | 16:22 |
slangasek | ok :) | 16:22 |
slangasek | nhandler: anything else we need to discuss? | 16:22 |
nhandler | ScottK only had that one issue. I personally think we should be in good shape. | 16:22 |
slangasek | excellent | 16:22 |
slangasek | nhandler: thanks for keeping us informed | 16:23 |
nhandler | You're welcome sla | 16:23 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:23 |
MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 16:23 |
slangasek | any oddball issues to cover before we adjourn? | 16:23 |
slangasek | #endmeeting | 16:24 |
MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:24. | 16:24 |
slangasek | thanks, folks! | 16:24 |
lool | thanks | 16:24 |
lool | happy week-end | 16:24 |
robbiew | thnx | 16:24 |
jcastro | friendly reminder! | 16:26 |
jcastro | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep | 16:26 |
jcastro | plenty of slots left for openweek | 16:26 |
nhandler | Thanks for the reminder jcastro, I should probably give some sort of session | 16:27 |
doko | slangasek: yes, around, but the final 2.6.2 release is not yet made. still on my list | 17:45 |
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