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administrator_was already installed, I did apt-get update but nothing happened00:00
superm1after the apt-get update restart hardware drivers.  if it's still not offering it, it's possible that fglrx isn't supported on your card00:01
superm1you can try to manually force it, but it might not work00:01
DavideI just installed MythBuntu 8.10, and am unable to get sound working on the system.  It's not just in mythtv, the whole system has no sound.  Is there a way to check if the sound drivers are properly installed?00:02
DavideI"m new at Linux00:02
administrator_superm1, restarted hardware drivers, but nothing changed, Id like to manually force it, what would I need to do?00:05
superm1Davide, there aren't really any ways to (easily) manually  install sound drivers in linux.  it's usually all or nothing00:07
superm1administrator_, you would install xorg-driver-fglrx manually, and then run aticonfig or another method to add fglrx to the xorg.conf00:07
Davidewell what can I do? superm100:09
Davidesuperm1 I mean is there a way that I can check if they are installed at all?00:10
DavideI dont really know what's wrong00:10
Davidewould the OS alert me if one of the pieces of hardware did not have drivers installed?00:11
miliambarso here's a question thats stumping me00:21
miliambarI have a hdhomerun and I can record any hd channel I want...except if I schedual a recording on 50-1 I get a message that tells me there is no file...and when I look it appears that it isn't creating a file...but if I browse to the channel and hit the record button manually it records just fine, and this is the only channel it happens on00:22
miliambarany ideas what I should look at00:23
administrator_fglrx didnt work, the screen got corrupted, maybe radeonhd works?00:35
rockx0zoneI am having problems install the nvidia-180 driver.  is this common with the mythbuntu version of ubuntu?  Should I install ubuntu, get the drivers working and install the mythtv packages or does that matter?02:26
bobbob1016I have a video that plays fine if I open it from Thunar or cli, but MythTV just starts mplayer and then it goes back to MythTV.  My mplayer video line is "mplayer -vc coreserve, -ao alsa:device=spdif -ac hwac3,hwdts,alsa, -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s" the video is an mp4, HD downloaded from youtube, not sure much else.  AAC Audio if I read the mplayer cli output right.  Any ideas?04:19
wombo_How do I get rid of pulse audio?04:58
MythbuntuGuest38Hi.05:06
superm1!hi | MythbuntuGuest3805:06
ZinnMythbuntuGuest38: Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?05:06
wombo_I cant work out this pulseaudio thing that was added in the lastest PPA05:07
wombo_I cant even run mythfrontend --help anymore05:07
MythbuntuGuest38can I run mythbuntu as a front end only, no TV features, just to watch downloaded vids?05:07
wombo_nope, but you can install both the backend and frontend on the same computer05:08
wombo_for anyone reading the logs 'killall pulseaudio'05:11
superm1MythbuntuGuest38, sure05:12
MythbuntuGuest38hmm, just looked at the mythtv faq to see what the backend does, seems I dont need it.05:14
superm1well it needs to be running unfortunately, it just wont do anything05:19
MythbuntuGuest38well now im confused. can i use the "live cd frontend" to watch video's from harddisk without installing stuff?05:22
superm1yeah you can05:47
superm1well yes and no05:47
superm1you can use tools such as mplayer xine or vlc to watch stuff on the hard disk05:47
superm1if you want to use the live cd frontend, you need to have a backend and sql server elsewhere05:47
Shadow__Xyou tell em superm105:55
Shadow__Xlol05:55
Shadow__Xhey superm1 do you think you can answer a question for me05:56
superm1sure what's up?05:56
Shadow__Xi dont know if you remember but i have a dell laptop with the dell wireless n 150005:57
Shadow__Xwhich equates to broadcom 432105:57
Shadow__Xi hear that its a great chipset05:57
Shadow__Xand that its good for speed and quality05:57
Shadow__Xbut the best speeds i can pull off of it is 3 -4 MB/sec thats it05:57
Shadow__Xwhere i have been using a ralink 2860 and thats easily gets me 7 MB/sec05:58
Shadow__Xthe ralink is from a asus eeepc 100005:58
superm1so it depends on the driver you are using05:59
superm1i've heard the open source driver gets crap speeds05:59
superm1the closed driver gets better speeds06:00
superm1but i'm not sure if the closed driver works with that card06:00
Shadow__Xhmm i havnt found any good speeds on the broadcomm in windows and in linux its slower06:00
superm1well if you are getting bad speeds in windows too, then have you checked to make sure the antenna is connected properly?06:03
superm1that it didnt get loose and what not06:03
MythbuntuGuest38bye.06:07
waxheadis there a release date for mythbuntu 9.04?06:14
superm1it should be approximately the same date as ubuntu 9.0406:14
superm1https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule06:14
waxheadok.. I'm hoping to see improvement with h264 playback with the next release...06:15
waxheadI read that it's going to use the .21-fixes branch06:15
superm1with what player?06:15
superm1yeah i dont know that much has changed in -fixes for h26406:15
waxheadwhich from my reading so far seems to imply some improvement with h264...06:15
superm1you'd have to use trunk to get a lot of that kind of improvement06:15
waxheadno?06:16
superm1i may be wrong and just not watching -fixes commits well enough06:16
waxheadi've tried a few players... mplayer, "Internal" and VLC...06:16
superm1but normally those sorts of things come in ffmpeg merges06:16
superm1which only happen in trunk06:16
waxheadall have have been having problems... of differing types...06:16
superm1well VLC has a new version in 9.0406:17
Shadow__Xsuperm1, yeah i check that when i put the 2860 i get alot faster speeds06:17
superm1so it may be a bit better too06:17
waxheadI see you can run the weekly builds script... I was thinking about trying that,b ut given that we nearly have 9.04 I can wait to see what comes out...06:17
waxheadcool...06:17
waxheadso I'll wait till the next release and see how it goes...06:18
waxheadis it safe enough to dist-upgrade, or should I look at installing "clean" ?06:18
superm1don't use apt-get dist-upgrade.  use update-manager06:18
superm1and that should be safe06:18
waxheadrecordings and video are on different drives so it's not a problem to wipe clean on the os drive06:18
waxheadsuperm1, what about aptitude?06:19
superm1waxhead, dont use that either06:19
superm1the *only* supported method to upgrade is update-manager06:19
waxheadI'd rather ssh in and do the upgrade in a shell06:19
superm1then use the do-release-upgrade tool06:19
superm1it's the command line version of update-manager06:19
superm1it uses the same core06:19
waxheadtops!!! thanks.. I'll have to remember that...06:19
superm1it should be documented on the ubuntu upgrade pages i believe06:20
waxheadprobably is.. i usually read them before starting on upgrading..06:20
superm1you in theory "could" use dist-upgrade, but it's totally unsupported and you can run into things that are not representable in packaging that might break and be hard to sort out06:20
waxheadI also do one box and then the rest as it's all cached in the proxy server...06:20
wombo_superm1, FYI they have just merged ffmpeg 0.5 into trunk06:31
wombo_within the last couple of hours06:31
superm1wombo_, woot!06:31
superm1depending on the timing for that, it might actually be in the weekly builds that just got queued up06:31
wombo_nah we just missed by a couple of minutes :(06:32
wombo_I was hoping too06:32
wombo_But I would wait a day anyway as about 10 or 15 different patches have gone in about it since the mythbuntu build06:32
superm1yeah it always takes some time for those merges to settle out06:33
superm1wombo_, if you hear sometime in the next few days that the merge is "done" and it's a good time to rebuild, ping Daviey and he can queue up a build07:53
superm1Daviey, you should really install a big teal button somewhere or something :)07:54
wombo_yep no probs. I normally track whats happening in there a little07:54
=== DavidePalm is now known as Davide^sleeping
hadsAnyone played with WOL from suspend?08:47
hadsI can wake from a shutdown but not from suspend.08:47
hadsUsing a r816908:47
humehi..I am running mythbuntu on an intrepid box - recently my mythbuntu session seems to have lost the window borders, so I cannot really access other programs like konsole - any ideas on how to solve this without reinstallation?09:57
administrator__hi I installed a skystar hd2 on jaunty with s2api drivers, the dvb-s-card is recognized. I want to scan for channels. SO I choose DVB DTV capture card (v3.x) at the card setup and I get: STB0899 Multistandard Subtype: DVB-S as Frontend ID. at DiSEqC I choose LNB Universal Europe. (But when I leave the card setup menu and get back into it, there is no sign of LNB, but it says: (unconnected)). After that I choose EIT at the vid10:52
administrator__eo source setup and europe-west for the channel frequency table. when I want to scan for channels, in "connect source to input" I can choose several different scan types: Full scan, usw., what do I need to choose? Iam using weeklybuild -fixes10:52
administrator__I checked with kaffeine and it works.11:38
EvilGuruHmm, removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't seem to help12:00
* administrator2 is administrator12:03
foxbuntuhads, thats because WoL requires BIOS support and the BIOS wont active via WoL packet unless it thinks its off, suspend is still an "on" status in the BIOS, if you want it to make from suspend use mythwelcome18:39
foxbuntus/make/wake18:39
rjmunroHow much space do I need to run a mythtv backend server excluding video? Will a 10Gb root partition be enough?19:51
rjmunroWhere should I mount the partition to hold the video files?19:52
rhpot1991rjmunro: that should be enough for the root partition, normally the recordings partition will mount to /var/mythtv/recordings19:53
rhpot1991its really personal preference though, I do mine all in /mythtv19:54
rhpot1991as long as its not your home directory and you assign privledges correctly you will be fine19:54
rjmunrorhpot1991: So mounting a big XFS partition as /var/mythtv wil work well?19:56
rhpot1991rjmunro: yep, might be worth your time to have seperate ones for recordings and videos and music and so on19:57
rjmunroand 10Gb is enough for everything outside /var/mythtv? (apart from swap)19:57
rhpot1991I like to keep recordings on their own, and everything else on another partition19:57
tgm4883rhpot1991, quick correction.  It's /var/lib/mythtv19:58
rhpot1991thank tgm488319:58
tgm4883default that is19:58
tgm4883np19:58
rhpot1991can tell how much I know, since I don't use the default19:58
rjmunroSo the layout is /var/lib/mythtv/{recordings,music,videos} for all the stuff?19:58
rhpot1991tgm4883: whasn't there some talk about a default size for root a little while back?19:59
rhpot1991forget if we said 10 or 15, or if that code ever ended up anywhere19:59
tgm4883yea it's in the partitioner19:59
tgm4883there is a default range, and partman figures out in that range based on the size of your disk20:00
rhpot1991music  pictures  posters  recordings  videos20:00
tgm4883iirc it's 6-10 for /20:00
rhpot1991are the folders in there rjmunro20:00
rjmunroCool.20:00
rhpot1991I just like recordings seperate and then you can let that whole partition fill with them and adjust without worrying oh no I put a bunch of movies here and don't have room for recordings no more20:01
rjmunroI've got a disc with a bunch of data in LVMs that I want to keep, but I don't need to keep the root partition, which is 10Gb.20:01
rjmunroBut the disc also 200Gb of unused space in the LVM, which should be perfect for videos.20:02
rjmunroIs ext3 reccomended for the root partition?20:03
rhpot1991I believe so, thats what I use20:03
rhpot1991and xfs for recordings partition20:03
tgm4883yes ext3 for / xfs for recordings20:04
rhpot1991rjmunro: are you doing intrepid or jaunty?20:04
rjmunrorhpot1991: Err, I'm using a Mythbuntu 8.10 alternate install CD if that answers your question.20:15
rhpot1991rjmunro: yep, proceed20:16
rjmunrorjmunro: Phew... It's too late to stop now :-)20:16
rjmunros/rjmunro/rhpot1991/20:17
tgm4883i'm headed out to lunch, but make sure you configure the db when you get it installed20:17
tgm4883as the alt disk doesn't like to do that20:17
rjmunroWhat are "Mythbuntu additional roles"?20:17
rjmunroHmm... The system boots and the screen is totally blank.21:13
rjmunroctrl-alt-f1 doesn't give me a terminal.21:14
rjmunroBut I can ssh in from another machine.21:14
schdavtrying to get a 2 transmitter mceusb2 device to work. got the remote working but am not having success with the transmitters22:39
schdavthere doesnt seem to be a mode2/irw equiv for transmitting.. any ideas on how to troubleshoot it better?22:39
schdavor should i ask #lirc22:40
superm1schdav, try using a digi camera to look and see if the light is flashing when transmitting22:46
schdavah, nice. i'll try that22:47
rjmunroI've installed with the alternate install method, and the machine just freezes, but I can ssh from another machine. I noticed my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seems to be blank. Is that correct?22:49
schdavhmm... no dice. any other ideas?23:01
hadsfoxbuntu: I've seen reports of WoL from suspend, I'll look into it further.23:29

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