[00:00] <administrator_> was already installed, I did apt-get update but nothing happened
[00:01] <superm1> after the apt-get update restart hardware drivers.  if it's still not offering it, it's possible that fglrx isn't supported on your card
[00:01] <superm1> you can try to manually force it, but it might not work
[00:02] <Davide> I just installed MythBuntu 8.10, and am unable to get sound working on the system.  It's not just in mythtv, the whole system has no sound.  Is there a way to check if the sound drivers are properly installed?
[00:02] <Davide> I"m new at Linux
[00:05] <administrator_> superm1, restarted hardware drivers, but nothing changed, Id like to manually force it, what would I need to do?
[00:07] <superm1> Davide, there aren't really any ways to (easily) manually  install sound drivers in linux.  it's usually all or nothing
[00:07] <superm1> administrator_, you would install xorg-driver-fglrx manually, and then run aticonfig or another method to add fglrx to the xorg.conf
[00:09] <Davide> well what can I do? superm1
[00:10] <Davide> superm1 I mean is there a way that I can check if they are installed at all?
[00:10] <Davide> I dont really know what's wrong
[00:11] <Davide> would the OS alert me if one of the pieces of hardware did not have drivers installed?
[00:21] <miliambar> so here's a question thats stumping me
[00:22] <miliambar> I have a hdhomerun and I can record any hd channel I want...except if I schedual a recording on 50-1 I get a message that tells me there is no file...and when I look it appears that it isn't creating a file...but if I browse to the channel and hit the record button manually it records just fine, and this is the only channel it happens on
[00:23] <miliambar> any ideas what I should look at
[00:35] <administrator_> fglrx didnt work, the screen got corrupted, maybe radeonhd works?
[02:26] <rockx0zone> I am having problems install the nvidia-180 driver.  is this common with the mythbuntu version of ubuntu?  Should I install ubuntu, get the drivers working and install the mythtv packages or does that matter?
[04:19] <bobbob1016> I have a video that plays fine if I open it from Thunar or cli, but MythTV just starts mplayer and then it goes back to MythTV.  My mplayer video line is "mplayer -vc coreserve, -ao alsa:device=spdif -ac hwac3,hwdts,alsa, -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s" the video is an mp4, HD downloaded from youtube, not sure much else.  AAC Audio if I read the mplayer cli output right.  Any ideas?
[04:58] <wombo_> How do I get rid of pulse audio?
[05:06] <MythbuntuGuest38> Hi.
[05:06] <superm1> !hi | MythbuntuGuest38
[05:06] <Zinn> MythbuntuGuest38: Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[05:07] <wombo_> I cant work out this pulseaudio thing that was added in the lastest PPA
[05:07] <wombo_> I cant even run mythfrontend --help anymore
[05:07] <MythbuntuGuest38> can I run mythbuntu as a front end only, no TV features, just to watch downloaded vids?
[05:08] <wombo_> nope, but you can install both the backend and frontend on the same computer
[05:11] <wombo_> for anyone reading the logs 'killall pulseaudio'
[05:12] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest38, sure
[05:14] <MythbuntuGuest38> hmm, just looked at the mythtv faq to see what the backend does, seems I dont need it.
[05:19] <superm1> well it needs to be running unfortunately, it just wont do anything
[05:22] <MythbuntuGuest38> well now im confused. can i use the "live cd frontend" to watch video's from harddisk without installing stuff?
[05:47] <superm1> yeah you can
[05:47] <superm1> well yes and no
[05:47] <superm1> you can use tools such as mplayer xine or vlc to watch stuff on the hard disk
[05:47] <superm1> if you want to use the live cd frontend, you need to have a backend and sql server elsewhere
[05:55] <Shadow__X> you tell em superm1
[05:55] <Shadow__X> lol
[05:56] <Shadow__X> hey superm1 do you think you can answer a question for me
[05:56] <superm1> sure what's up?
[05:57] <Shadow__X> i dont know if you remember but i have a dell laptop with the dell wireless n 1500
[05:57] <Shadow__X> which equates to broadcom 4321
[05:57] <Shadow__X> i hear that its a great chipset
[05:57] <Shadow__X> and that its good for speed and quality
[05:57] <Shadow__X> but the best speeds i can pull off of it is 3 -4 MB/sec thats it
[05:58] <Shadow__X> where i have been using a ralink 2860 and thats easily gets me 7 MB/sec
[05:58] <Shadow__X> the ralink is from a asus eeepc 1000
[05:59] <superm1> so it depends on the driver you are using
[05:59] <superm1> i've heard the open source driver gets crap speeds
[06:00] <superm1> the closed driver gets better speeds
[06:00] <superm1> but i'm not sure if the closed driver works with that card
[06:00] <Shadow__X> hmm i havnt found any good speeds on the broadcomm in windows and in linux its slower
[06:03] <superm1> well if you are getting bad speeds in windows too, then have you checked to make sure the antenna is connected properly?
[06:03] <superm1> that it didnt get loose and what not
[06:07] <MythbuntuGuest38> bye.
[06:14] <waxhead> is there a release date for mythbuntu 9.04?
[06:14] <superm1> it should be approximately the same date as ubuntu 9.04
[06:14] <superm1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule
[06:15] <waxhead> ok.. I'm hoping to see improvement with h264 playback with the next release...
[06:15] <waxhead> I read that it's going to use the .21-fixes branch
[06:15] <superm1> with what player?
[06:15] <superm1> yeah i dont know that much has changed in -fixes for h264
[06:15] <waxhead> which from my reading so far seems to imply some improvement with h264...
[06:15] <superm1> you'd have to use trunk to get a lot of that kind of improvement
[06:16] <waxhead> no?
[06:16] <superm1> i may be wrong and just not watching -fixes commits well enough
[06:16] <waxhead> i've tried a few players... mplayer, "Internal" and VLC...
[06:16] <superm1> but normally those sorts of things come in ffmpeg merges
[06:16] <superm1> which only happen in trunk
[06:16] <waxhead> all have have been having problems... of differing types...
[06:17] <superm1> well VLC has a new version in 9.04
[06:17] <Shadow__X> superm1, yeah i check that when i put the 2860 i get alot faster speeds
[06:17] <superm1> so it may be a bit better too
[06:17] <waxhead> I see you can run the weekly builds script... I was thinking about trying that,b ut given that we nearly have 9.04 I can wait to see what comes out...
[06:17] <waxhead> cool...
[06:18] <waxhead> so I'll wait till the next release and see how it goes...
[06:18] <waxhead> is it safe enough to dist-upgrade, or should I look at installing "clean" ?
[06:18] <superm1> don't use apt-get dist-upgrade.  use update-manager
[06:18] <superm1> and that should be safe
[06:18] <waxhead> recordings and video are on different drives so it's not a problem to wipe clean on the os drive
[06:19] <waxhead> superm1, what about aptitude?
[06:19] <superm1> waxhead, dont use that either
[06:19] <superm1> the *only* supported method to upgrade is update-manager
[06:19] <waxhead> I'd rather ssh in and do the upgrade in a shell
[06:19] <superm1> then use the do-release-upgrade tool
[06:19] <superm1> it's the command line version of update-manager
[06:19] <superm1> it uses the same core
[06:19] <waxhead> tops!!! thanks.. I'll have to remember that...
[06:20] <superm1> it should be documented on the ubuntu upgrade pages i believe
[06:20] <waxhead> probably is.. i usually read them before starting on upgrading..
[06:20] <superm1> you in theory "could" use dist-upgrade, but it's totally unsupported and you can run into things that are not representable in packaging that might break and be hard to sort out
[06:20] <waxhead> I also do one box and then the rest as it's all cached in the proxy server...
[06:31] <wombo_> superm1, FYI they have just merged ffmpeg 0.5 into trunk
[06:31] <wombo_> within the last couple of hours
[06:31] <superm1> wombo_, woot!
[06:31] <superm1> depending on the timing for that, it might actually be in the weekly builds that just got queued up
[06:32] <wombo_> nah we just missed by a couple of minutes :(
[06:32] <wombo_> I was hoping too
[06:32] <wombo_> But I would wait a day anyway as about 10 or 15 different patches have gone in about it since the mythbuntu build
[06:33] <superm1> yeah it always takes some time for those merges to settle out
[07:53] <superm1> wombo_, if you hear sometime in the next few days that the merge is "done" and it's a good time to rebuild, ping Daviey and he can queue up a build
[07:54] <superm1> Daviey, you should really install a big teal button somewhere or something :)
[07:54] <wombo_> yep no probs. I normally track whats happening in there a little
[08:47] <hads> Anyone played with WOL from suspend?
[08:47] <hads> I can wake from a shutdown but not from suspend.
[08:47] <hads> Using a r8169
[09:57] <hume> hi..I am running mythbuntu on an intrepid box - recently my mythbuntu session seems to have lost the window borders, so I cannot really access other programs like konsole - any ideas on how to solve this without reinstallation?
[10:52] <administrator__> hi I installed a skystar hd2 on jaunty with s2api drivers, the dvb-s-card is recognized. I want to scan for channels. SO I choose DVB DTV capture card (v3.x) at the card setup and I get: STB0899 Multistandard Subtype: DVB-S as Frontend ID. at DiSEqC I choose LNB Universal Europe. (But when I leave the card setup menu and get back into it, there is no sign of LNB, but it says: (unconnected)). After that I choose EIT at the vid
[10:52] <administrator__> eo source setup and europe-west for the channel frequency table. when I want to scan for channels, in "connect source to input" I can choose several different scan types: Full scan, usw., what do I need to choose? Iam using weeklybuild -fixes
[11:38] <administrator__> I checked with kaffeine and it works.
[12:00] <EvilGuru> Hmm, removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't seem to help
[12:03]  * administrator2 is administrator
[18:39] <foxbuntu> hads, thats because WoL requires BIOS support and the BIOS wont active via WoL packet unless it thinks its off, suspend is still an "on" status in the BIOS, if you want it to make from suspend use mythwelcome
[18:39] <foxbuntu> s/make/wake
[19:51] <rjmunro> How much space do I need to run a mythtv backend server excluding video? Will a 10Gb root partition be enough?
[19:52] <rjmunro> Where should I mount the partition to hold the video files?
[19:53] <rhpot1991> rjmunro: that should be enough for the root partition, normally the recordings partition will mount to /var/mythtv/recordings
[19:54] <rhpot1991> its really personal preference though, I do mine all in /mythtv
[19:54] <rhpot1991> as long as its not your home directory and you assign privledges correctly you will be fine
[19:56] <rjmunro> rhpot1991: So mounting a big XFS partition as /var/mythtv wil work well?
[19:57] <rhpot1991> rjmunro: yep, might be worth your time to have seperate ones for recordings and videos and music and so on
[19:57] <rjmunro> and 10Gb is enough for everything outside /var/mythtv? (apart from swap)
[19:57] <rhpot1991> I like to keep recordings on their own, and everything else on another partition
[19:58] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, quick correction.  It's /var/lib/mythtv
[19:58] <rhpot1991> thank tgm4883
[19:58] <tgm4883> default that is
[19:58] <tgm4883> np
[19:58] <rhpot1991> can tell how much I know, since I don't use the default
[19:58] <rjmunro> So the layout is /var/lib/mythtv/{recordings,music,videos} for all the stuff?
[19:59] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: whasn't there some talk about a default size for root a little while back?
[19:59] <rhpot1991> forget if we said 10 or 15, or if that code ever ended up anywhere
[19:59] <tgm4883> yea it's in the partitioner
[20:00] <tgm4883> there is a default range, and partman figures out in that range based on the size of your disk
[20:00] <rhpot1991> music  pictures  posters  recordings  videos
[20:00] <tgm4883> iirc it's 6-10 for /
[20:00] <rhpot1991> are the folders in there rjmunro
[20:00] <rjmunro> Cool.
[20:01] <rhpot1991> I just like recordings seperate and then you can let that whole partition fill with them and adjust without worrying oh no I put a bunch of movies here and don't have room for recordings no more
[20:01] <rjmunro> I've got a disc with a bunch of data in LVMs that I want to keep, but I don't need to keep the root partition, which is 10Gb.
[20:02] <rjmunro> But the disc also 200Gb of unused space in the LVM, which should be perfect for videos.
[20:03] <rjmunro> Is ext3 reccomended for the root partition?
[20:03] <rhpot1991> I believe so, thats what I use
[20:03] <rhpot1991> and xfs for recordings partition
[20:04] <tgm4883> yes ext3 for / xfs for recordings
[20:04] <rhpot1991> rjmunro: are you doing intrepid or jaunty?
[20:15] <rjmunro> rhpot1991: Err, I'm using a Mythbuntu 8.10 alternate install CD if that answers your question.
[20:16] <rhpot1991> rjmunro: yep, proceed
[20:16] <rjmunro> rjmunro: Phew... It's too late to stop now :-)
[20:17] <rjmunro> s/rjmunro/rhpot1991/
[20:17] <tgm4883> i'm headed out to lunch, but make sure you configure the db when you get it installed
[20:17] <tgm4883> as the alt disk doesn't like to do that
[20:17] <rjmunro> What are "Mythbuntu additional roles"?
[21:13] <rjmunro> Hmm... The system boots and the screen is totally blank.
[21:14] <rjmunro> ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't give me a terminal.
[21:14] <rjmunro> But I can ssh in from another machine.
[22:39] <schdav> trying to get a 2 transmitter mceusb2 device to work. got the remote working but am not having success with the transmitters
[22:39] <schdav> there doesnt seem to be a mode2/irw equiv for transmitting.. any ideas on how to troubleshoot it better?
[22:40] <schdav> or should i ask #lirc
[22:46] <superm1> schdav, try using a digi camera to look and see if the light is flashing when transmitting
[22:47] <schdav> ah, nice. i'll try that
[22:49] <rjmunro> I've installed with the alternate install method, and the machine just freezes, but I can ssh from another machine. I noticed my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seems to be blank. Is that correct?
[23:01] <schdav> hmm... no dice. any other ideas?
[23:29] <hads> foxbuntu: I've seen reports of WoL from suspend, I'll look into it further.