[00:00] Ok [00:00] I'll try it [00:00] I hope it works with apt-get [00:00] you need to install linux-generic or linux-image-generic [00:00] Oh. ok [00:01] those will always depend on the latest -generic kernel [00:01] Oh [00:01] Ah, interesting to explore how it's organized. [00:02] But i think I must download it here on desktop, because server can't connect to Internet :D [00:03] Whoops [00:03] Thanks, JanC [00:04] Penguino: in that case you probably best download the latest kernel version directly, and install the linux-generic meta-package once you have an internet connection [00:05] Ok [00:53] Evening All [00:53] I have a ubuntu server x64 install [00:53] and i just put in a adaptec PCI RAID Card, 16 port [00:54] I have setup 6x 500gb RAID 5 on the card, however, fdisk -l does not show the drive(s) [00:54] How would I go about setting that up ? [00:58] Bullterd: did you prepare the RAID array using the Adaptec utility? [00:58] prepare? [00:58] I set it up as a logical drive e.t.c [00:59] That's what I meant :) [00:59] Same as I did when it was a *shudder* M$ Server [00:59] OK [00:59] but that was all in the adaptec BIOS config :) [00:59] Exactly [00:59] I think it may be driver related :( [01:00] I would guess maybe a kernel module issue, yeah [01:00] Whats the exact model? [01:00] Adaptec AAR 21610SA [01:03] Looks like it's aacraid you need, but not sure if it's enabled as standard or not [01:03] Hah [01:03] Which swiftly brings me along to [01:03] modrobe it? [01:03] Why do I keep getting "aacraid host adapter abort request" [01:04] modprobe even [01:05] Um, How would I do that? [01:05] sudo modprobe aacraid [01:15] what is the best way to block server access to a certain IP? [01:16] OscarTgrouch: iptables? [01:17] Or ufw which is a front end fow ufw [01:17] for ufw [01:18] Oscar, this should help: http://www.higherpass.com/linux/Tutorials/Iptables-Primer/4/ [01:18] third line down [01:20] ropetin: modprobe aacraid returns nothing [01:20] Bullterd: I'm out of ideas then, sorry === lamont` is now known as lamont [01:35] So - deploying dovecot-postfix - how quickly can I setup a brand new email server? [01:38] depends on how you define "email server" [01:38] and how familiar you are with dovecot and postfix [01:39] by the 3rd one, I'd expect the answer to be on the order of minutes, most of which is waiting for hte computer to finish what it's doing [01:41] klogd is/was going nuts on my system using almost 100% cpu usage, it is unacceptable [01:41] lamont: I've done courier/postfix from scratch a couple times in a vm - never dovecort [01:42] I have since restarted the machine, but to prevent this from happening again, I am left with only two options, investigate the cause of the high cpu usage, and correct it. Or failing that, format the machine and install the antithesis of Ubuntu, debian. [01:43] SJr|Work: well, if it were me, I'd do the first [01:43] probably a whole lot easier [01:43] Any suspects? [01:44] lamont: is dovecot easier to figure out? [01:44] SJr|Work: why didn't you kill it to see what else was running? [01:44] I did [01:44] MTecknology: dovecot pretty much "just works" for most simple configurations. [01:45] MTecknology: So, yeah, I'd call it easy. [01:45] infinity: cool :) [01:45] infinity: anything special for multiple domains? [01:46] Depends on what you mean by "mutliple domains". [01:46] Multiple domains being delivered to real local users, or virtual users? [01:46] MTecknology: dovecot is on my list of things to figure out [01:46] virtual [01:46] I don't do virtual users, so couldn't say. [01:47] I do "virtual domain" in my MTA, in the sense that they all have their own aliases and such, but back-end delivery still ultimately lands in the mailboxes of real UNIX users. [01:47] I would like to keep all mail in /var/spool/mail/virtual/user stored in maildir format - I prefer not having real users [01:49] MTecknology: Combining it with something like vpopmail might make the virtual user thing easier. [01:50] MTecknology: But yeah. Not my bag, so I can't be incredibly helful on that score. [01:58] thanks for the info - I'm excited to use it [02:05] Fuck Sakes [02:06] * Bullterd starts thinking M$ might be easier [02:11] Does this help Bullterd? [02:11] http://linux.adaptec.com/?p=22 [02:13] yeah i checked that o8ut [02:13] Didnt make any sense, dell have changed the page he links too [02:13] atleast, I think they did [02:13] k [02:13] I love linux [02:14] I fucking hate hardware incompatibility [02:14] Hello [02:14] ello [02:14] !cc [02:14] Sorry, I don't know anything about cc [02:14] Doh! [02:14] :D [02:15] !boobs [02:15] Sorry, I don't know anything about boobs [02:15] * Bullterd chuckles [02:15] I'm having a bit of an issue trying to install Ubuntu Server 8.10 :( [02:15] Trying to boot the Ubuntu Server 8.10 Server CD and it loads as far as "Loading...boot" and goes no further. Any ideas? :( [02:15] Checked the media ? [02:15] DVD / CD Drive OK? (as in, not an old shitey one) [02:16] Tried a couple of different brands of CD. I did put a memtest86+ ISO on one and that booted up no idea [02:16] Dunno [02:16] It's a VIA Epia 5000. [02:16] not trying to fun 64-bit on 32, right? [02:16] fun/run [02:16] Nope :) [02:17] Dang, theres a concept [02:17] XP picks up everything first time [02:17] :'( [02:17] I did have a look around and I did notice some people did have issues with the Epia, but they all seemed to be at least able to install it! [02:18] have you tried any other linux distros? [02:18] like... debian lenny, or ubuntu 9.04 beta? [02:18] It has debian on it but I thought I'd give Ubuntu a try [02:18] Not tried 9.04 [02:19] I did notice there was 8.04 LTS, but I'm not sure if a) thats a wise choice to use b) what the difference is between that and 8.10 [02:19] it has extended support... thats all [02:19] Hello all [02:20] I don't think I'm doing anything daft :) [02:20] LonelyGirl545454: Pics else liez! :D [02:20] LonelyGirl545454: That aside, can I help ? [02:21] Im having trouble setting up Jinzora on Ubuntu 8.10 server. Im following this wiki http://en.jinzorahelp.com/wiki/Linux_Installation_with_shell_access I've gotten to the part where i set up the permissions. Then when i direct my browser to the folder i get a "403 forbidden Error" . Any ideas? [02:21] ropetin: Haha, guess what color my screen just turned [02:21] your permissions are wrong :) [02:21] =) Hi Sam. [02:22] Should i be using something different then "chmod 744 configure.sh" [02:22] Im new....SHHHH. =) [02:22] thats just the script... the 403 is from what the web browser probably doesnt have permission to read [02:22] What Sam-I-Am said basically [02:23] chmod the folder [02:23] LonelyGirl545454: Did the shell script execute OK ? [02:24] Is that when i set the permissions. Im sorry. Im extremely new to this. [02:24] It said it was ready to install and to direct the browser to http://ip/jinzora2 after i set the permissions [02:25] Bull should i cd to /var/www and then type chmod 744 jinzora2? [02:25] erm [02:25] LonelyGirl545454: It says you've gotta execute the shell script [02:25] did you do that [02:29] @bull. i sent you a private message dont know if you received it or not. [02:29] Im not sure exactly what part of the wiki has me Executing the shell script. in all honesty i dont even know what that means. Please feel free to enlighten me. =). I've done everything down to the setting permissions part. [02:30] There any guides to deploying dovecot-courier? [02:30] I selected it on installatiopn [02:30] anything in the server guide? [02:31] not that i saw [02:31] gotta be something out there... [02:32] i'm familiar with cyrus, but not dovecot/courier [02:32] i'm sure there is, idk where it's at - that's why I'm asking :P [02:32] Sam-I-Am: in 9.04 there's a dovecot-courier package [02:32] how do i list all the servers that are running on my machine>? [02:33] MTecknology: You mean using dovecot with courier-mta? [02:33] first created user in 9.04 isn't automatically in the sudoers file.... [02:33] wtf [02:33] MTecknology: it was for me [02:33] i tried sudo -s and it said differently [02:34] is that the user you installed with? [02:34] when it asked for a user [02:34] just installed it - ya [02:35] only user that exists [02:35] i ran id and it only shows uid=1000(michael) gid=1000(michael) groups=1000(michael) [02:36] weird... [02:36] extremely - fresh install [02:37] I can't fight with figuring it out though... i have no mail server right now :P [02:39] hurray for recovery boot [02:39] MTecknology: Did you do an "expert" install? [02:39] MTecknology: If you do an expert install and set a root password, it bypassed the usual adding-the-first-user-to-admin-groups and such. [02:39] (at least, it used to) [02:40] nope, just standard server install [02:40] oh well - all better [02:41] only 80 updates [02:42] I love this. [02:42] Linux's main issue: Hardware compatibility [02:42] What do I get? Thats right, Hardware compatibility [02:42] Windows's Main Issue: BSOD's [02:42] What do I get? Thats right, a BSOD [02:43] and wheres my Official ubuntu stress relief ball I bought last week? [02:43] perhaps you have bad hardware... [02:43] Yep, Cant find it [02:43] MTecknology: Nah, Its not bad [02:43] Linux didnt like my adaptec controller, thats fair doo's [02:43] Windows didnt like not having drivers for my onboard SATA [02:44] still nothing found for dovecot-courier... [02:45] MTecknology: dovecot-courier wouldn't make much sense, since they both fulfil the same role. [02:45] s/courier/postfix/ [02:46] Well, there's nothing to configure to make them work together, really. [02:46] By default, they Just Work. [02:46] !info dovecot-postfix [02:46] Package dovecot-postfix does not exist in intrepid [02:46] !info dovecot-postfix jaunty [02:46] dovecot-postfix (source: dovecot): full mail server stack provided by Ubuntu server team. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.11-0ubuntu3 (jaunty), package size 21 kB, installed size 112 kB [02:46] For things like virtual users, you configure postfix to deliver to said virtual users, you configure dovecot to read from them. [02:46] Just install dovecot and postfix. :P [02:46] I know, one handles delivery and one handles reading [02:47] infinity: I installed that package... idk how to configure it - I've never dealt w/ dovecot before [02:47] Or, if you're happier with courier, postfix and courier, or exim4 and courier, or, or, or... [02:47] MTecknology: Well, for basic use, it's already configured. [02:47] MTecknology: For deeper and crazier configs, the dovecot wiki is good. [02:48] how? it automatically knows everything about everything? [02:48] MTecknology: Well, a default setup doesn't have virtual users or anything, so yeah, a default postfix and default dovecot just DTRT. [02:49] that makes very little sense that it knows everything about the server environment [02:49] MTecknology: What's there to know? [02:49] MTecknology: We have filesystem hierarchy standards and such for a reason. Every MTA and MDA we ship knows where things happen by default. [02:50] MTecknology: Until you decide to do something slightly more fun/funky, they all "Just Work". [02:50] i never expected anything to be able to happen like that [02:51] authentication is handled by pam? [02:51] Yup. [02:51] and maildir automatically exists for the user? [02:52] Don't recall if the default setup is mbox or maildir, to be honest. [02:52] what about multiple domains? [02:52] I have 5 of them [02:53] Multiple domains to local users is just a question of what domains you ask postfic to accept mail for. Multiple domains to aliased users would start requiring lookup maps in postfix, I assume, which is out of my scope as an exim user. [02:53] Multiple domains to virtual users starts looking at tying something like vpopmail into postfix and dovecot for lookup tables. [02:54] alrighty - I'll enjoy knowing that the package exists for smaller setups or single domains - i think I'll resort to my whole massive setup :P [02:54] thanks :) [02:58] infinity: the setup I was looking at originally uses courier/postfix/mysql/postgrey/sasl/amavis/spamassassin/clamav [02:58] Whatever works for you. :) [02:58] infinity: how does the default setup do w/ tls - or is that an extra config? [02:59] Mine's exim4/dovecot/spamassasin and some other bits. [02:59] TLS should be pretty much an out-of-the-box (maybe changing one option?) thing for most of the mail software in the distro. [02:59] We auto-generate snakeoil certs for the lazy, even. [03:00] ya - I'm going to need to figure out how to get my cert to be used [03:00] that'll be fun - I can use the exact same cert for imaps/pops/smtps/https right? [03:01] Yup. [03:01] As long as they all use the same hostname. [03:01] awesome [03:03] I figure I have an hour left before email messages start bouncing and not coming back [03:35] almost have postfix configured :D [03:39] almost? :) [03:39] postfix is a 10 minute from 0 to 100 config [03:41] depending on how you set it up [03:42] all done [03:43] it was about a 45min setup for me - I have a crap load of security options and other crap setup [03:46] I lied, forgot about setting up tls [03:47] /etc/postfix/master.cf isn't so much fun to muck around in === nitsedy is now known as nitsedy_ === nitsedy_ is now known as nitsedy [04:23] almost have my mail server redone except for smtp... biggest part right now [04:24] postfix requires a bit of reading docs, but it's not illogical once you understand... ;) [04:25] JanC: It should be working right now - but I can't connect on that port [04:25] not open at all [04:25] that's better than it being open for everybody ;) [04:25] ya - but I know I have email bouncing :P [04:27] MTecknology: the logs should have info [04:27] BTW: what are you trying to do? [04:27] lol - had three files owned by root instead of postfix [04:27] JanC: setup a mail server [04:28] "a mail server" can be a lot of things... [04:28] email [04:28] courier/postfix/mysql/postgrey/sasl/amavis/spamassassin/clamav [04:28] my server does IMAP (using dovecot) and SMTP (using postfix) [04:29] incoming mail on the default SMTP port [04:29] yup [04:29] mails I send on the "submission" port [04:29] yup [04:29] (meaning SMTP over TLS/SSL) [04:29] yup ;) [04:29] + authentication [04:29] The submission port need not be SSL, I think [04:30] twb: need not be, but if you want security... :P [04:30] Right, so they are orthogonal. [04:30] And both good, of course. [04:30] I use this with my laptop everywhere [04:31] and it's easy enough to require TLS/SSL on it [04:33] MTecknology: so, what doesn't work? [04:34] MTecknology: and why use courier ? ツ [04:34] it's working now [04:35] forgot to restart a daemon? ;) [04:35] because I know courier, never used dovecot [04:35] permissions [04:35] /etc/init.d/postfix check let me know what was wrong [04:35] right [04:35] This is why postfix took so long to configure - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/148082/ [04:36] hm, I don't use amavis anymore [04:36] why not? [04:37] I had to restart it too often... :P [04:37] (manually, that is) [04:37] I hope I won't have to [04:37] I set it up to notify on updates, so it should be good [04:38] wtf...... [04:38] I just accidentally ran sudo reboot instead of sudo aptitude update [04:39] lol [04:39] JanC: why does your nick seem so familiar? [04:39] but amavis just kept eating memory on my server, so I removed it ;) [04:40] MTecknology: #ubuntu-locoteams ? [04:40] oh - thanks [04:40] and ubuntu-be.org ;) [04:41] that would be it :) [04:41] IIRC you made our site theme [04:41] yup - you like it? [04:41] yeah, it's good [04:42] now we just need to make the site better ;) [04:42] I'm in that boat too - feel free to stick around in -drupal :) [04:43] -drupal ? [04:44] ubuntu-drupal ? [04:44] #ubuntu-drupal [04:44] ya [04:44] it's mostly Pierre who does the site admin tasks though [04:45] well - after an update I'll need to reboot my server - I always reboot for kernel updates - that's a good idea, right? [04:45] without a reboot kernel upgrades have no effect [04:46] but on my server I wait a day to see if it will cause no major breakage [04:46] at least for most kernel updates [04:47] you mean like waiting for bug reports? [04:47] bug reports or people complaining in blogs or whatever [04:47] oh [04:48] if something is really wrong with a kernel, it will be published widely in no time ;) [04:48] depends on what was fixed [04:48] I suppose - I can wait till after release before rebooting again [04:48] any eta on ubuntu supporting ext4 defrag? [04:49] preferably online - but I don't care how it's done [04:49] I'm the only one with access to this server, so local privilege escalations are not as urgent as they would be for a shared hosting provider [04:50] eh, I hope you don't use ext4 yet? ;) [04:50] lol - what you said reminded me about how I upgraded to 9.04 and Ext4 remotely - ext4 on /, /home, and others [04:51] would been fine if other tutorials didn't leave out a vital step - but that wouldn't even have been an issue if my motherboard wasn't crapping out [04:51] why not? [04:51] because it's new? [04:51] lol - that's how I run [04:52] all my servers are now 9.04, my laptop is, my servers are one defrag away from being all ext4 [04:52] I'm that guy you guys like that reports huge issues where a system dies because they tried the newest stuff :P [04:53] I have noticed issues w/ it - but they've been incredibly minor [04:53] found existing bug reports and called it good enough :P [04:53] ext4 is new & largely untested, so I don't use it for a server that has serious tasks (like providing my e-mail & some websites) [04:54] email, samba, websites, backups, irc, bots, etc :P [04:54] I know, not safe - and I don't advise people doing it - but I did write a blog in case people do - so they don't have the same issues I did [04:55] I still need to reconfigure samba, restore data, etc on this (primary) server [04:56] I host websites that aren't just for personal use ;) [04:56] I do a few of those - but business websites are on 1&1 [04:56] the bandwidth here proved to be too low to use [04:57] 2.9MB/s over wireless - not bad [04:57] I'm not talking about business, but I take open source projects seriously... [04:57] my loco site is on there, that's about it [04:57] for important stuff [04:57] I host the gparted forum ;) [04:58] ya, would stick w/ stable for that [04:58] and if I hosted my loco team site, I won't be playing with bleedign edge shit either [04:59] actually, this server is still running debian [04:59] well, VPS [04:59] well - for a while, that site was the bleeding edge version of that package - but now dev is at staging.profarius.com [05:03] You shoulda seen it when I decided it was time to clean up the code [05:04] that was over 100k lines of diff [05:08] and great - things seem to work except I can log into webmail - I wonder if telnet shows me messages [05:09] ITYM nc. [05:09] ? [05:10] Using telnet to connect a network socket to stdio is rather... old-fashioned. [05:10] it's good for testing things though - see an exact error [05:10] netcat or socat at least lack telnets stigma. [05:10] MTecknology: no, I mean using telnet to do it, instead of a tool specifically FOR that purpose. [05:10] what should I use to test? [05:11] a LOGIN michael@profarius.com password ; * BYE Temporary problem, please try again later [05:11] wtf... [05:12] nice - Apr 9 23:11:34 vindico imapd: authentication error: No such file or directory [05:13] the bright side is... email is coming in right now [05:16] I wish I knew how to track that down [05:18] MTecknology: telnet does some things that most servers ignore, but it's better not to do them (so that's why you want to use netcat instead) [05:19] use it the same way? [05:19] yes, you can use them for the same things that you use telnet now [05:19] ok [05:19] telnet is for those poor souls still left on Windows ;) [05:20] they don't have decent tools available ;) [05:20] ok [05:20] Haha, cygwin [05:21] netcat is probably also available as 'nc' BTW [05:22] I wonder if this is killing it... MYSQL_MAILDIR_FIELD concat(home,'/',maildir) [05:22] twb: yeah, and maybe even in a mingw version [05:22] I don't know offhand how that's built [05:28] there we go - screwed up a default value in mysql so mail was pointing at the wrong spot [05:31] JanC: How do I make directories automatically and not allow users to delete them? [05:34] I have no clue about how you implemented your server [05:34] :( [05:35] dovecot can make directories automaticly [05:37] I know courier can too - it's probably because of my funky setup [05:40] I made it so I can't delete certain folders... but not so it created the whole profile automatically [05:49] I am so unbelievably happy I don't need to do this on a large scale === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [08:41] I installed courier-webadmin but I don't know how to get to it - any pointers? [08:41] tried http? [08:41] :) [08:42] !info courier-webadmin [08:42] courier-webadmin (source: courier): Courier mail server - web-based administration frontend. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.60.0-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 47 kB, installed size 256 kB [08:42] Kamping_Kaiser: I tried getting to it but I don't see any apache files for it [08:42] MTecknology, i'd suggest looking in /usr/share/doc/courier-webadmin/ for doco [08:42] MTecknology, probably drops a file in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ [08:43] there isn't [08:43] I checked there which is why I;m confised [08:43] odd. try the doco dir, i might have a readme.debian [08:43] there is [08:43] http://localhost/cgi-bin/courierwebadmin [08:44] s/i /it [08:44] \o/ [08:44] but I go there and get nothing [08:44] check your logs for info. [08:45] nothing to really look for though - there's no apache config [08:50] Kamping_Kaiser: this sucks :( [08:51] MTecknology, sorry, i cant really help with specifics, and i didnt know the utility existed until you told me about it. [08:51] from what I'm seeing - it should "just work" [08:51] MTecknology, i can only suggest things like check you have cgi setup in apache properly - with niche apps dependencies can go astray without people noticing at times. [08:51] * Kamping_Kaiser shrugs. :9 [08:51] * :( [08:53] thanks for trying :) [08:53] it sounds like it could be a really awesome tool [08:54] good luck with it, let me know if you win [08:55] yup [08:56] I've won on most everything else so far today - jsut want to alter the way it works a little bit and I'm tired of massive configsd [08:56] I might be about to have a win as well. [08:57] win what? [08:57] building a custom install cd [08:58] fun [08:58] not really :p [08:58] anyhow, brb [08:58] what purpose? [09:04] !info courier-webadmin [09:04] courier-webadmin (source: courier): Courier mail server - web-based administration frontend. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.60.0-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 47 kB, installed size 256 kB [09:04] !info courier-webadmin jaunty [09:04] courier-webadmin (source: courier): Courier mail server - web-based administration frontend. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.60.0-2ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 48 kB, installed size 260 kB [09:06]