[00:00] <Rangoe> hello  anyone familiar to grub4dos
[00:00] <DasEi>  dingleberry:have least one extended for flexibility
[00:01] <marco__> ciao scusate
[00:01] <marco__> devo entrare
[00:01] <marco__> in una irc
[00:01] <marco__> diversa
[00:01] <proq> I have an iMac9.  when I boot into a terminal I can type fine, but when I start x I have no keyboard or mouse.  how do I get these to work?
[00:01] <yasasvy> Clopin: have you tried other games?
[00:01] <marco__> con canale server e porta diversa da questa
[00:02] <marco__> come faccio
[00:02] <marco__> chi mi aiuta
[00:02] <dingleberry> eqisow: Yeah I always use LVM
[00:02] <_Brun0_> Help please. My mouse wount work in X11. I can move the mouse around but can't click anything. Keyboard doesn't work also. Any hints on debugging x11 mouse and keyboard in command-line? I might be able to configure them in etc/X11/xorg.conf but I don't knwo what to put there.
[00:02] <dingleberry> DasEi: One extended?  Please elaborate.
[00:02] <marco__> scusate???????????
[00:02] <dingleberry> DasEi: ie. what does that allow me to do later?
[00:02] <Clopin> yasasvy: Not on Wine as I havent installed any others yet. Perhaps I should try it out.
[00:03] <skybound> vitopoma: i don't think there is a vhdl specific ubuntu derivate, userbase would be rather small; compiling that stuff manually is probably your best bet
[00:03] <marco__> c'è qualche italiano
[00:03] <marco__> ?
[00:03] <proq> !it
[00:03] <vitopoma> thank you skybound :)
[00:03] <vitopoma> i'll compile :(
[00:03] <yasasvy> Clopin: What video card are you using?
[00:03] <DasEi>  dingleberry:you can have a maximum of (only) four primary partis on a drive, which are up easily fast, but you can define one (ore more) extended ones, anf in withinhin have a vast amount of logical drives that behave as single partis
[00:04] <marco__> ok grazie mille dell'aiuto
[00:04] <grkblood13> how do i know if comcast is filtering my usenet makign it go slower?
[00:04] <Clopin> yasavy: Zepto GeForce 8800GT
[00:05] <yasasvy> Clopin: Did you install the required drivers for that?
[00:05] <DasEi>  dingleberry:it's always nice for backup purposes or trouble in fs to have seperate partis, also it's a security feature
[00:05] <Clopin> yasasvy: COuld it be overheating?
[00:05] <Rangoe> can someone please give me some hints on grub4dos
[00:05] <skybound> vitopoma: you are welcome; probably not the answer you wanted. didn't want you to feel ignored :-)
[00:06] <Clopin> yasasvy: I've installed nVidia 180.44 which should support the GeForce 8 Series
[00:06] <aaronator_> I want to upgrade to kernel 2.6.29.1.  Is there anything special I need to do since I am running 64 bit ubuntu
[00:06] <DasEi> Rangoe: what do you want to achieve ?
[00:06] <yasasvy> _Brun0_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:08] <DasEi> !jaunty | aaron
[00:09] <Rangoe> tks DasEi, my company was running a 2003 server on an hp proliant ml, i rebooted the system today and it doesnt boot anymore, all i get is a window with 3 choices, spyhunter, windows xp and windows vista - any optin gives me an error 17 - file not found - set root - sh4ldr/vmlinuz - ive never used grub4dos in my life all my searches point to linux/ubuntu stuff which i know nothing
[00:09] <tommi69> hi all
[00:09] <_Brun0_> yasasvy, ty! i'll try that
[00:09] <tuxFan> sup
[00:09] <tommi69> anyone using jaunty beta and having python errors on updates?
[00:09] <DasEi> Rangoe: do the other options work ?
[00:09] <vitopoma> ah one thing.. how can i partecipate in making ubuntu packages? for example i have successfully compiled alliance with apt-get -b source alliange and by changing slightly the source code: it compiles and works perfectly. how can i distribute it so users as me don't get mad in trying to compile (there are errors in source code and it don't compile well in gcc4.3)?
[00:09] <aaronator_> dasei: are you suggesting i do a full upgrade to 9.04
[00:10] <Rangoe> DasEi none work
[00:10] <grkblood13> any1 here have giganews
[00:10] <lamer> abend, good evening
[00:10] <aaronator_> dasei: I really want to get the 'practice' of upgrading a kernel in for experience - I am just learning Linux
[00:10] <DasEi> aaronator: the kernel you spoke of is the neweset available from kernel.org, I assume, jaunty is still beta, but newst release, why do want that kernel ?
[00:10] <DasEi> !custom
[00:10] <Rangoe> DasEi im kinda desperate on this, i dont understand where did grub4dos came from or why does it show those 3 options it doesnt make any sense
[00:10] <solexious> Hello, I want to add a line to apt.conf but ubuntu uses a apt.conf.d folder, I added the line to one of the files in it to use a proxy but it was removed after a reboot. What should I do to stop this?
[00:11] <Clopin> !kernel
[00:11] <Bossmanbeta> Hi, is there a way to have VNC running after I reboot ubuntu, so I can login to the X session with VNC? Right now, if I reboot, VNC won't engage unless I am physically at the box to login to the X session, then I can VNC in remotely. However, I need to VNC after a reboot to login to the X session, so I need VNC to be listening on the console GUI that's showing the login-screen immediately after
[00:11] <Bossmanbeta> reboot.
[00:11] <aaronator_> dasei: experience
[00:11] <DasEi> Rangoe: it sounds like there is a grub installed that doesn't boot anymore; do you kow if there was a linux on before ?
[00:12] <vitopoma> (i obtained alliance from revu)
[00:12] <Rangoe> DasEi im not sure it could be.. i didnt install it myself. What would you normally do in order to fix the boot
[00:13] <Clopin> Why cant I find the latest stable Linux kernel (2.6.29.1) in Synaptic?
[00:13] <yasasvy> Clopin: Did you install WoW as specified by the community documentation?
[00:13] <Devourer> Oh.
[00:13] <Rangoe> DasEi i would try an 2003 repair install but it doesnt boot from cd, only cd that boots is the one from hp which only allows me to do a clean install
[00:13] <Clopin> yasasvy: Yep.
[00:14] <eqisow> Clopin: because it's not there
[00:14] <biglinux> oi
[00:15] <Bossmanbeta> Hi, is there a way to have VNC running after I reboot ubuntu, so I can login to the X session with VNC? Right now, if I reboot, VNC won't engage unless I am physically at the box to login to the X session, then I can VNC in remotely. However, I need to VNC after a reboot to login to the X session, so I need VNC to be listening on the console GUI that's showing the login-screen immediately after
[00:15] <Bossmanbeta> reboot.
[00:15] <DasEi> aaronator : a guide is here http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu , there is a tool for starters, I just can#t remember right now, which guides; but be aware it can be tricky as the packets might not be sufficient for it
[00:15] <dingleberry> DasEi: Eventually I will four 1Tb drives in a RAID 10 config though
[00:15] <Barridus> !jaunty
[00:15] <aaronator_> DasEi: so are there anything different I need to do because I have a 64bit OS?
[00:16] <eqisow> Bossmanbeta: Are you using Gnome's VNC server?
[00:16] <DasEi> aaronator : no, just the right kernel / headers / patches for 64
[00:16] <DasEi> !kernel
[00:16] <aaronator_> thanks
[00:17] <Clopin> eqisow: Could you tell me how to upgrade to the latest kernel? I've read somewhere that it's always best to have the latest, and I wanted to see if it could fix some of my problems.
[00:17] <Bossmanbeta> eqisow: yes, but it does not answer right after a reboot, I have to login at the console first.
[00:17] <vitaliy_> hey guys can someone help me get compiz working with ubuntu 8.10 and i have fglrx driver my video card is x1650 pro
[00:17] <vitopoma> ??
[00:17] <eqisow> Bossmanbeta: That's because it's initialized by Gnome. ie. it starts when you log in
[00:18] <Bossmanbeta> eqisow: how can I see the gui represented at the console remotely prior to login so I can login remotely?
[00:18] <DasEi> Rangoe: that's bad, no live-cd bootable .. can you acces the drive in another way (f.e. hang the hd in a working pc ?) ?
[00:19] <eqisow> Bossmanbeta: a different vnc server that's started by init might do it, but I'm not 100% on that. X over ssh is an option as well
[00:19] <Rangoe> DasEi: yea thats another issue.. the 5 hds are ~SAS which means i cant connect em to a sata (no cables)
[00:19] <DasEi>  dingleberry:sound interesting, I never done else then raid 0/1  , so no help from me there
[00:20] <eqisow> Bossmanbeta: You may want to take a look at FreeNX as well
[00:20] <yasasvy> Clopin: you should compile the kernel from source code
[00:20] <skybound> vitopoma: personally i would try to push compile fixes to the upstream project (if it is still active); concerning ubuntu the is some "contributing" page somewhere on the website (the basic process goes like: get a mentor to check your pkg and upload it; debian-like [i am going to get flamed for this no doubt])
[00:20] <Bossmanbeta> eqisow: I need to see the actual session presented on the monitor, remotely -- when I launch vnc4server on :0, all I see is a grey screen with a terminal... which doesn't help, since I need to see the actual gui shown on the monitor (gdm login + the gnome session displayed as though I was at the console, remotely)
[00:20] <mgolisch> if its software raid thats the only good option you have @ dingleberry
[00:20] <DasEi> Rangoe: but you say the hp disk boots.., which other boot-cd's did you try ?
[00:21] <vitaliy_> hey guys can someone help me get compiz working with ubuntu 8.10 and i have fglrx driver my video card is x1650 pro
[00:21] <Rangoe> DasEi only the hp one, i tried the 2003 server bootable cd on my home computer and its bootable and workin
[00:21] <Im_Toast> vitaliy_: What isn't working?
[00:21] <mib_1z1zrv> Can I be exploited if I run a Live Ubuntu CD? Can an attacker access my hard drive/ partitions?
[00:22] <DasEi> !live | Rangoe
[00:22] <vitaliy_> im toast when i lunch my desktop effecvtsa it says desktop effects cannot be enabled
[00:22] <Im_Toast> vitaliy_: Do you have compiz settings manager?
[00:22] <Rangoe> ubottu does it mean i could fix the boot without screwing the o.s ?
[00:22] <vitaliy_> im not sure this is my first day using linux
[00:22] <Rangoe> lol
[00:22] <Rangoe> oops
[00:22] <vitaliy_> actually second
[00:22] <Im_Toast> vitaliy_: Fourth here =D
[00:22] <vitaliy_> :)
[00:23] <Im_Toast> vitaliy_: type in a terminal sudo apt-get install compiz-settings-manager
[00:23] <DasEi>  Rangoe : I suggest you first d/l an ubuntu an a knoppix live cd to get any access to that sys; will it be used for buisnness on or is it in your hands now, anyway ?
[00:23] <DasEi> and *
[00:23] <scx> mib_1z1zrv: older version ubuntu livecd had a bug, which overwritte dm-crypt encrypted partitions
[00:23] <Ripzerskins> Anyone know how to stop flickering in native ubuntu games?
[00:23] <vitaliy_> E: Couldn't find package compiz-settings-manager
[00:23] <vitopoma> thank you sky, i'll try it. why flame? we are trying to make ubuntu better :) now i go sleep. goodnight every one and thank you for your answer :)
[00:23] <vitaliy_> i gues not
[00:23] <mib_1z1zrv> Anyone?
[00:24] <DasEi> !ask
[00:24] <mib_1z1zrv> Can I be exploited if I run a Live Ubuntu CD? Can an attacker access my hard drive/ partitions?
[00:24] <Xcell> vitaliy_--  go to sys/admin/synaptic package manager...in (search) type..compiz
[00:24] <DasEi> mib_1z1zrv: if it's a good one AND the hd is mounted, maybe, not very likely
[00:24] <scx> mib_1z1zrv: yes ;p
[00:25] <eqisow> Bossmanbeta: like I said, check out FreeNX or (possible) a different VNC server. I don't think gnome's does what you want
[00:25] <Rangoe> DasEi that server is working as a dhcp server / domain server, all the ppl that work in the company saved their files in there. i guess it would be used for business
[00:25] <yasasvy> Ripzerskins: Disable compiz if you are using it
[00:25] <Ripzerskins> yasasvy: It doesn't make a difference.
[00:25] <oneforall> hi ius there a package of sage 3.4?
[00:26] <mib_1z1zrv> scx: Are you saying its better to make Ubuntu a local install and harden the Kernel from there?
[00:26] <Ripzerskins> yasasvy: By that I mean, when I do disable it, it still flickers.
[00:26] <genii> Any way to make some arbitrary sized disk image ?
[00:26] <DasEi>  Rangoe : so first get these two live-cd's, then first back up the mbr before starting any screwing ( case it gets worse) , then check out which os(es) are on it, then we can see on
[00:26] <yasasvy> type this in your terminal and tell me the output "glxinfo | grep rendering"
[00:27] <Krine11> hi
[00:27] <Rangoe> DasEi is grub4dos similar to partition magic as a software?
[00:27] <Krine11> how come when i play wolfenstein enemy territory on ubuntu it lags like hell
[00:27] <scx> mib_1z1zrv: yes
[00:27] <DasEi> !grub | Rangoe
[00:27] <Rangoe> DasEi oki tks
[00:27] <neurobuntu> I'm thinking about building my own machine and running windows in a virtual machine, should I buy a CPU with virtualization support tech?
[00:28] <DasEi>  Rangoe : Grub is a linux bootlaoder that also can load windozes
[00:28] <dingleberry> mgolisch: Not sure what you mean.. "if its software raid thats the only good option you have @ dingleberry"
[00:28] <DasEi> Rangoe: also checkout #grub
[00:28] <Rangoe> DasEi yea im in there asking but no do atm
[00:28] <DasEi> Rangoe: case it's a pure windows install: #windows
[00:29] <maike> duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude
[00:29] <mgolisch> dingleberry: there isnt much you could do besides raid10
[00:29] <Rangoe> DasEi ty so much for all the hints brb
[00:29] <DasEi> Rangoe: so first try to get a live cd to boot, as you can't acces the pc in another way
[00:29] <mgolisch> all parity stripe raid levels are a nogo without hw controlers with battery backed caches, unless you are insane
[00:29] <DasEi> Rangoe: cu
[00:29] <Rangoe> DasEi ok will do
[00:30] <dingleberry> mgolisch: Ah.. Yeah well there's raid 5.. but I'm not liking the performance hit
[00:30] <mgolisch> yeah thats nogo with software raid
[00:30] <mgolisch> unless you are crazy
[00:30] <DasEi> mib_1z1zrv: if you'r really paranoid, dismount the hd and change root-pw, really paranoid..
[00:30] <dingleberry> mgolisch: Dreadfully slow?
[00:32] <omer666> hi
[00:32] <knucklebrawler> whats the difference between ubuntu and mint?
[00:32] <Huufarted> anybody know of a way to do a directory listing with ONLY file size (in bytes) and the file name, nothing else?
[00:33] <mib_1z1zrv> DasEi: change root pw on a live session?
[00:33] <DasEi> mib_1z1zrv: if you'r really..  yes, so it's much harder to get any harmfull access ;-)
[00:33] <erUSUL> Huufarted: man ls (hint ls -s)
[00:33] <Davide>  I just installed MythBuntu 8.10, and am unable to get sound working on the system.  It's not just in mythtv, the whole system has no sound.  Is there a way to check if the sound drivers are properly installed?  I'm new at linux
[00:33] <epaphus> hi guys, anybody know how i can install a VPN client in ubuntu?? to openvpn
[00:34] <mib_1z1zrv> DasEi: something so simple and I didnt think of it. Tyvm
[00:34] <knucklebrawler> whats the difference between ubuntu and mint?
[00:34] <Huufarted> erUSUL: that p**ses me off...  I was looking at that for 20 minutes and I'm obviously blind
[00:34] <DasEi> knucklebrawler: mint is a specal distri for multimedia-stuff,  special paketselection, also see ubuntu-studio
[00:34] <mroc> can anyone help me set up a shared internet connection?
[00:35] <DasEi> !ics | mroc
[00:36] <vitaliy_> hey guys after i run compiz check i get this http://pastebin.com/m78b01405
[00:36] <omer666> I try to compile ioquake 3 and I've got that maessag ; /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[00:36] <omer666> wtf ?
[00:36] <mroc> DasEi: thanks, i'll read through that.  I used to have it working well with firestarter but whenever i plug in the wired connection, it immediately seems to take precedence because i can no longer connect to the outside world.
[00:36] <omer666> I comiled it a few days ago
[00:36] <omer666> and it worked perfectly
[00:37] <vitaliy_> hey guys after i run compiz check i get this http://pastebin.com/m78b01405
[00:37] <mib_1z1zrv> afk
[00:37] <DasEi> mroc: if the interfaces are cnfigured correctly, might have to restart network after plugging
[00:38] <mgolisch> dingleberry: all parity sripe raid levels suffer from a fundametal flaw the so called write whole, that is if parity information and the actual content become inconsistent due to power failures or similar and that is not corrected before a block or disk fails, you will have data loss due to the incorrect parity information used to rebuild the failed block/disk, thats why hw raid controlers have battery backed caches , a software raid provides no protection ag
[00:39] <vitaliy_> hey guys after i run compiz check i get this http://pastebin.com/m78b01405
[00:39] <mgolisch> too bad not many people seem to know or care for that
[00:39] <mgolisch> :)
[00:39] <Huufarted> Anybody know a way to do a directory listing and only list files, not directories?
[00:39] <eqisow> !patience > vitaliy
[00:40] <eqisow> !patience > vitaliy_
[00:40] <eqisow> vitaliy: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[00:41] <vitaliy_> sure one second
[00:41] <vitaliy_> this is my second day using linux so i dont know  alot :)
[00:42] <vitaliy_> http://pastebin.com/m697e68de
[00:42] <omer666> anybody knows the cause of my problem ?
[00:42] <eqisow> mgolisch: APC? :p
[00:43] <eqisow> vitaliy: hell, if this is day 2 your doing good. other Unix background?
[00:43] <Davide> I just installed MythBuntu 8.10, and am unable to get sound working on the system.  It's not just in mythtv, the whole system has no sound.  Is there a way to check if the sound drivers are properly installed?  I'm new at linux
[00:44] <vitaliy_> no :)
[00:44] <_Brun0_> Can I test is mouse/keyboard is working in X11 without installing any window mananger?
[00:44] <mroc> DasEi: whenever i try to set the internal side settings, i get an error about things being read-only.  am i doing something wrong here?
[00:44] <eqisow> vitaly_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf not /var/log/Xorg.0.log. :p
[00:44] <spaceBARbarian> hey is 4GB enough for /, /tmp ?
[00:44] <DasEi> mroc: which error exyctly (use pastebin) do you get ?
[00:44] <vitaliy_> oh my bad cuz a guy from copiz told me to write the other one lol
[00:45] <crdlb> Huufarted: this is a bit hacky, but it seems to work: ls --file-type | grep -v /
[00:45] <mr_bo_jangles> anyone bored and want to join a new room? try #megworld.
[00:45] <mib_1z1zrv> DasEi: changing root password did no good. I am installing apps with root privileges, without being prompted. Thanks though
[00:45] <mroc> DasEi: graphically configuring, i get the following: Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.76 - connection update not supported (read-only)
[00:45] <spaceBARbarian> is 4GB enough for " / " and " /tmp " ?
[00:45] <eqisow> lol, np: Make sure you ahve these sections in xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1387569
[00:45] <Huufarted> crdlb, found a new solution.  :)  ls -l | grep -v '^d' | awk '{ print $5 " " $9 }'
[00:46] <vitaliy_> http://pastebin.com/m3f8fd9f
[00:46] <Huufarted> crdlb: I ultimatedly wanted only files with file sizes
[00:46] <eqisow> spaceBARbarian: I would say 15 minimum, might as well go 20 to be safe
[00:46] <kephu> hi
[00:46] <yasasvy> Davide: System -> Preferences -> sound
[00:47] <spaceBARbarian> eqisow: im kinda low on diskspace, and on the installation docs it says you only need like 500 for "/" and 1gb for "/tmp"
[00:47] <ankhow> Sorry if I bother anyone:
[00:47] <kephu> can anyone help me identify, why my ubuntu takes 10 whole minutes to boot?
[00:47] <eqisow> spaceBARbarian. I only have 2.4GB free on my 15GB /, granted that's with some games and such installed, but it's not hard to get there
[00:47] <daftykins> ankhow, don't DCC chat people randomly please
[00:47] <baddog> wtf ankhow XD
[00:47] <Iceman_B|SSH> ankhow: stop that
[00:47] <DasEi>  mroc:try sudo firestarter from trml
[00:47] <FrozenFire> ankhow: Indeed, don't.
[00:47] <kephu> I mean, I've got a bootchart, but I'll admit, I'm completely stumped
[00:48] <spaceBARbarian> eqisow: but i am making /usr separate
[00:48] <spaceBARbarian> eqisow: 10gb for that, sry should have mentioned
[00:48] <Iceman_B|SSH> also, I think you messed up ankhow
[00:48] <MacGyverNL> ankhow, stop doing that, please.
[00:48] <Iceman_B|SSH> 01:47:06 [Ubuntu] DCC CHAT from ankhow [127.0.0.1 port 30000] requested in channel #ubuntu
[00:48] <crdlb> it's already dealt with, people
[00:48] <kephu> so, anyone? This is really bothering me
[00:48] <eqisow> spaceBARBbarian: no prob. You'll probably be cool. I recommend using LVM just in case you need to resize some later, though
[00:48] <spaceBARbarian> so i have 4gb for /var , 10gb for /usr, 20gb for /home
[00:48] <Iceman_B|SSH> the 127.0.0.1 is erroneous, I think
[00:48] <DasEi>  mib_1z1zrv:? sure you didn#t catch sudo's 15 min-loop ?
[00:48] <Rolcol> ankhow wanted to dcc chat with me too..
[00:49] <knAr> same for me
[00:49] <Wolfey> Ditto
[00:49] <Wolfey> What is DCC chat?
[00:49] <Iceman_B|SSH> direct connection Wolfey
[00:49] <Jan_O2_> ankhow> what's up ?
[00:49] <Iceman_B|SSH> it circumvents the server
[00:49] <Barridus> Wolfey, it's IRC's answer to private messages/chat
[00:49] <Wolfey> Oh
[00:49] <Wolfey> Probably some random spam bot.
[00:49] <Ropechoborra> Wolfey, Direct Client to Client chat
[00:49] <Barridus> prolly
[00:50] <lstarnes> Wolfey, Barridus: irc sypically uses privmsg instead of dcc chat for private messages
[00:50] <lstarnes> *typically
[00:50] <Barridus> yeah
[00:50] <DasEi> Wolfey: you mean :
[00:50] <DasEi> !dcc
[00:50] <Barridus> i misspoke
[00:50] <Iceman_B|SSH> well technically speaking, I think the DCC protocol can be used seperately from irc, no ?
[00:50] <mroc> DasEi: device eth0 not ready  (that's the internal side).   i'm getting that read-only message when using the "Edit connections" part of network manager.
[00:50] <Wolfey> Thanks guys. =)
[00:50] <Ropechoborra> Wolfey, sure, i recived that too...
[00:50] <MacGyverNL> Iceman_B|SSH: Off-topic, but you do need the IRC server to establish the connection.
[00:50] <lstarnes> Iceman_B|SSH: it is negotiated through irc
[00:50] <DasEi> mroc : in trml, what does ifconfig say ?
[00:51] <DasEi> (eth0) about
[00:51] <Ripzerskins> Hey guys, I accidentally deleted my system tray, heh. How do I get it back?
[00:51] <Iceman_B|SSH> ah, ok. thanks MacGyverNL  / lstarnes
[00:51] <mroc> DasEi: hmm...nothing.  well clearly that's part of the problem.
[00:51] <crdlb> Ripzerskins: right click on an empty space on the panel, Add to panel -> Notification Area
[00:51] <Ripzerskins> crdlb: thanks.
[00:52] <Iceman_B|SSH> how can I use wireshark/tcpdump to capture packets that go to ANY domain CONTAINING the string "dropbox" ?
[00:52] <omer666> anyone knows what is lGL ?
[00:52] <DasEi> mroc: gedit /etc/network/interfaces                          << eth0 listed there ?
[00:52] <crdlb> omer666: what video driver are you using?
[00:53] <mroc> DasEi: yes
[00:53] <spaceBARbarian>  would this partition setup be good in terms of space ? 4GB for '/' ; 4GB for '/var' ;  10GB for '/usr' ; 20GB for '/home'
[00:53] <DasEi> mroc: how is it configured ?
[00:54] <crdlb> spaceBARbarian: I don't see any reason to split /, /usr, and /var
[00:54] <mroc> DasEi: there are two blocks...the first is a static config...then there's a line below that with auto eth0
[00:54] <DasEi> spaceBARbarian: any special purposes with that sys ?
[00:54] <_pHI_> is there a good way to allow a specific user to have read/write access to usb ports?
[00:54] <_pHI_> except for a sudo chmod -R a+rwx /proc/bus/usb?
[00:55] <DasEi> mroc:they belong together; is the static config right for that device or does it listen to an dhcp ?
[00:55] <Huufarted> _pHI_: you mean read write access to a USB Drive?
[00:55] <meglo> Hey does anyone know of any ppa repositories that serve the new 0.9.x versions of VideoLAN VLC for Hardy LTS? Or any way to get a hold of packages of 0.9.x releases of VLC For Hardy LTS?
[00:55] <spaceBARbarian> crdlb: k should i even do /boot separate ? or just '/' '/home', and no special needs
[00:55] <_pHI_> Huufarted: well, i have an external device that i use libusb-dev to write to
[00:55] <_pHI_> Huufarted: it's a camera
[00:55] <Huufarted> ah
[00:55] <xkucf03> hello
[00:55] <crdlb> spaceBARbarian: separating /boot isn't necessary anymore
[00:55] <mroc> DasEi: it should be correct, it's the internal side, so it should be static.  my wireless interface wlan0 is connected to the internet.  eth0 is connected to client computer with crossover cable.
[00:56] <sveakex> hey, how can i unlock users from a ssh server
[00:56] <crdlb> spaceBARbarian: as long as you don't use an exotic FS for / that grub doesn't support
[00:56] <xkucf03> i have something wrong with my lilo: Fatal: device-mapper: only linear boot device supported
[00:56] <DasEi> mroc: k, then close gedit..
[00:56] <spaceBARbarian> crdlb: is ext4 exotic ?
[00:56] <Mion> xkucf03: raid?
[00:56] <DasEi> mroc: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:56] <crdlb> spaceBARbarian: on intrepid, it would be quite ...
[00:56] <xkucf03> Mion: yes, raid + LVM
[00:57] <spaceBARbarian> crdlb: no im installing jaunty, so i guess ill just do / and /home
[00:57] <godrik> Hello everyone
[00:57] <sveakex> i locked myself out of my home server, how can i remove the lock, i have physical access to it
[00:57] <Mion> xkucf03: keep your /boot outside of the raid/lvm
[00:57] <sveakex> with ssh
[00:57] <mroc> DasEi: reconfiguring ... then a warning that ifup -a is disabled in favour of Network Manager.
[00:57] <DasEi> spaceBARbarian: that sounds alright, and give / a 10 GB
[00:57] <crdlb> spaceBARbarian: then you're in the wrong channel, but you seem to know that
[00:57] <omer666> crdlb: I am using nVidia Drivers v180
[00:58] <godrik> I updated to jaunty two days ago. I believe I got a regression from intrepid in the access
[00:58] <xkucf03> Mion: but i have /boot on LVM on RAID
[00:58] <xkucf03> now i am unable to boot :(
[00:58] <godrik> in the wireless access
[00:58] <crdlb> omer666: via the ubuntu package?
[00:58] <DasEi> spaceBARbarian: do want to crypt the system ?
[00:58] <LjL> !jaunty
[00:58] <Mion> xkucf03: move it out of the raid
[00:58] <xkucf03> i can boot from usb disk and access my files
[00:58] <omer666> crdlb : yes
[00:58] <spaceBARbarian> DasEi: not really
[00:58] <xkucf03> but running lilo command fails with: Fatal: device-mapper: only linear boot device supported
[00:58] <godrik> ok LjL
[00:59] <omer666> I use 8.10 stable packages
[00:59] <_Brun0_> Can I test is mouse/keyboard is working in X11 without installing any window mananger?
[00:59] <sveakex> i locked myself out of my home server with ssh, how can i remove the lock, i have physical access to it
[00:59] <godrik> thanks
[00:59] <crdlb> omer666: then install nvidia-glx-180-dev
[00:59] <piegod> sveakex: What sort of 'lock'?
[00:59] <Anacranom> omer666, bur not 8.04 LTS ?
[00:59] <DasEi> spaceBARbarian: so you're fine, you don't even have to seperate home, though nice for backup-purposes / fs problems; don't forget a parti for swap
[00:59] <usser> xkucf03, lilo has been largely phased out in favor of grub i doubt you'll find any help on it here
[00:59] <sveakex> piegod: it won't ask my for a username or password in putty
[00:59] <ZachFlem> good morning folks.
[00:59] <sveakex> me*
[01:00] <spaceBARbarian> DasEi: yeah already did swap, i want home on a separate disk so i have to make that different
[01:00] <piegod> sveakex: If you have physical access, why not plug in a monitor, mouse and keyboard and see if it still works that way
[01:00] <sveakex> piegod: i am logged in physically
[01:00] <Ripzerskins> Hey, I'd like some opinions on  programs. I'm setting up a public computer for a music store (sells records, instruments, stuff for instruments, and has lessons there) what kind of programs should I put on it? It will be ubuntu.
[01:00] <usser> sveakex, try restarting ssh daemon
[01:00] <piegod> sveakex: Restart SSH?
[01:00] <grkblood13> i was gonna ask who ankhow was but i found out by searching
[01:00] <Anacranom> spaceBARbarian, thats easy,,, i can help
[01:00] <piegod> ah, beat me to it :D
[01:00] <grkblood13> hes pming every1
[01:00] <sveakex> piegod, usser: tried that already but i can try it again
[01:01] <DasEi> spaceBARbarian: go ahead, but 4 g can become small due to lots of additional progs, /tmp and logs
[01:01] <usser> sveakex, can you ping the server?
[01:01] <usser> sveakex, can you ping from the server?
[01:01] <piegod> sveakex: Are you using DHCP for the server's IP address?
[01:01] <spaceBARbarian> DasEi: im not giving root 4 gb, im giving it 10gb, is that good enough ?
[01:01] <usser> spaceBARbarian, more than enough
[01:01] <omer666> crdlb: hey thanks it works !
[01:01] <grkblood13> root 10gb!?!
[01:01] <grkblood13> hwo did is ur harddrive
[01:02] <grkblood13> big
[01:02] <DasEi> mroc: so there's sth with your networkmanager, check the options out, do they negoiate any of the other settings ?
[01:02] <Styles_____> Hey, I have Ubuntu installed on my Toshiba laptop. I'm using an Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family Video card and it isn't working right, I can't even startup to login because I just see stripes lol
[01:02] <DasEi> spaceBARbarian:should be
[01:02] <ZachFlem> i installed some updates that included fglrx from synaptic, now, after a reboot  I get  "Saw signal 11. Server Aborting" "giving up" etc...
[01:02] <spaceBARbarian> grkblood13: root as in tmp usr var ...
[01:02] <sveakex> piegod, usser: somehow restarting ssh worked
[01:02] <grkblood13> o
[01:02] <sveakex> didn't work before
[01:02] <grkblood13> lol
[01:02] <usser> sveakex, heh.
[01:03] <sveakex> piegod. usser: thanks :)
[01:03] <piegod> sveakex: Odd, but meh
[01:03] <usser> sveakex, cool.
[01:03] <piegod> :)
[01:03] <Zaraphrax> if im running an IRC server on Ubuntu, behind the NAT on my DSL modem, is their any point to using IPTables? I don't think there would be...
[01:03] <mroc> DasEi: not sure what you mean by that.  network manager handles the wireless connection properly.  whenever i try to configure the wired connection as "shared to other computers" i get that read-only message i was talking about.  no idea how to begin fixing that.
[01:03] <troubled> launchpad.net down?
[01:03] <sveakex> piegod, usser: yeah :s x)
[01:04] <piegod> Zaraphrax: I don't use IPtables and I'm fine with an IRC server
[01:04] <bonobo> hello there do you know where can i find the directory of the plugins for firefox?
[01:04] <troubled> let me rephrase, is bugs.launchpad.net ssl not responding for anyone?
[01:04]  * SHiNDiGGA Waves Hello
[01:05] <sveakex> Zaraphrax: shorewall is an easy firewall
[01:05] <sveakex> Zaraphrax: afaik, haven't used it
[01:05] <troubled> sveakex: ive used shorewall about 2 years now on debian. very nice
[01:05] <Zaraphrax> But is there any point to using it if i'm already behind a NAT on my modem?
[01:05] <Styles_____> Hey, I have Ubuntu installed on my Toshiba laptop. I'm using an Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family Video card and it isn't working right, I can't even startup to login because I just see stripes lol
[01:05] <sveakex> troubled: easy to set up?
[01:05] <Anacranom> sveakex, Zaraphrax have you looked at Endian?
[01:05] <omer666> bye guys
[01:05] <sveakex> Anacranom: nope
[01:06] <Zaraphrax> No I haven't. Should I?
[01:06] <troubled> sveakex: pretty much ya. if you know about ipfwadm->ipchains->iptables, this should be a cake walk :)
[01:06] <troubled> sveakex: just more tedious than anything since you gotta go through every file and tweak tweak tweak, read, tweak etc.
[01:06] <Anacranom> sveakex, Zaraphrax look at it and see what it offers, its very easy if you have the hardware
[01:06] <DasEi> mroc: eth0 isn't the wireless, should be ath0 or similar
[01:06] <troubled> sveakex: it works with ipset's though, which is very handy
[01:07] <sveakex> troubled: i don't know iptables.. xD
[01:07] <Zaraphrax> Anacranom: Ok, will do thanks.
[01:07] <sveakex> Anacranom: alright, endian right?
[01:07] <mroc> DasEi: wlan0 is the wireless, eth0 is the wired.   the wireless connects to the outside world, the wired connects to the computer i'd like to share the access to.
[01:08] <troubled> sveakex: well, its dealing with the iptables commands behind the scenes for you, but you still sorta gotta understand what it is you want to allow in, like tcp or udp, and what port(s) etc
[01:08] <DasEi> mroc: I will leave now, ask for someone with wireless on, dealing the message you get at networking restart
[01:08] <mroc> DasEi: ok.  thank you for your help.
[01:08] <Zaraphrax> How many IRC users do you guys think I can handle on a DSL line with 64k upload (Just chat, no CTCP)?
[01:08] <Anacranom> sveakex, Zaraphrax http://www.endian.com/en/community/
[01:08] <sveakex> troubled: well it can't be so difficult :P
[01:09] <mroc> i can't get network manager to stop giving me a read-only error.  can someone help me?
[01:09] <Zaraphrax> Thanks, I'll give that a try.
[01:09] <sveakex> troubled: i mean the programs which are infront of iptables
[01:09] <sveakex> Anacranom: cool :)
[01:09] <troubled> sveakex: eg: ACCEPT:info          loc:+test        $FW     tcp     10,20,30,1234
[01:09] <sveakex> troubled: well i will have to take a look into it
[01:09] <ZachFlem> is there a CLI command to roll back a change made by synaptic?
[01:10] <troubled> sveakex: ^^^^ accept, with a INFO line in the syslog, anything from my local zone, who are in the ipset called "test", to connecto to tcp ports 10, 20, 30 and 1234 on the firewall itself
[01:10] <pokethesmot> Why doesn't my wifi work?    (hahhahaha)
[01:10] <sveakex> troubled: well it's easier now that you have explained it :P
[01:10] <yasasvy> mroc: have you tried wicd instead of n/w mgr
[01:10] <troubled> sveakex: all shorewall does is basically turn all its config files into lots and lots of iptables calls and loads that file
[01:10] <Anacranom> pokethesmot, is it "on"?
[01:11] <pokethesmot> how do i turn it on?
[01:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Any chance a Lexmark X8350 can be made to work in Kubuntu?
[01:11] <sveakex> troubled: cool :)
[01:11] <Anacranom> sveakex, Zaraphrax http://www.endian.com/en/community?
[01:11] <sveakex> Anacranom: i am looking :P
[01:11] <pokethesmot> ...i accidently updated kernal headers on a custom netbook kernal.
[01:11] <Anacranom> sveakex, Zaraphrax sorry,,, MT
[01:11] <pokethesmot> = no more wifi. im starting over.
[01:11] <mroc> yasasvy: no, i haven't.  nm works for my wireless just fine, but i can't set the wired side to the "shared" option.
[01:11] <aspoor> Secret Stuff like, Ubuntu
[01:12] <sveakex> Anacranom: i think i forgot to tell you i was... x)
[01:12] <aspoor> CUPS
[01:12] <ZachFlem> am i invisable?
[01:13] <Anacranom> pokethesmot, is this a laptop or a desktop
[01:15] <thiebaude> how do i add a menu item on the options menu before login?
[01:15] <yowshi> is there a way to remove the ESD from ubuntu completly?
[01:15] <Anacranom> pokethesmot, the reason i ask is because some laptop bios's do not turn on the wireless during the live cd install wich tells the bios to have it in the "off" state upon the first boot
[01:15] <troubled> is http://bugs.launchpad.net/ taking forever to load for anyone else?
[01:15] <thiebaude> options then sessions and then i want to add an entry to the menu not not there already
[01:15] <troubled> or did I just get a bad ip in dns?
[01:16] <mroc> i'm getting a read-only error from network manager when trying to change the wired connection to "shared"...can anyone help me?
[01:16] <Wavesonics> Where should I put a script to have it run at startup?
[01:17] <ZachFlem> i installed some updates that included fglrx from synaptic, now, after a reboot  I get  "Saw signal 11. Server Aborting" "giving up" etc... Is there a CLI command to roll back a change made by Synaptic??
[01:17] <jrib> !startup | Wavesonics
[01:17] <Wavesonics> jrib: how about from command line?
[01:18] <jrib> Wavesonics: you would have to create a desktop file.  Use the gui
[01:18] <rogue780> how would I go about copying the mbr from /dev/hdd to /dev/hdc ?
[01:18] <Wavesonics> jrib: This is a server install
[01:18] <Wavesonics> no GUI
[01:18] <Wavesonics> i have the file already, its a BASH script
[01:18] <jrib> Wavesonics: then I assume you want it to start before any user logs in?
[01:18] <Wavesonics> yes
[01:18] <jrib> Wavesonics: then please read more closely ubottu's message :)
[01:19] <rogue780> !boot | Wavesonics
[01:19] <Wavesonics> !boot
[01:19] <eqisow> rogie780: dd if=/deb/hdd of=/dev/hdc bs=1 count=512 (somebody double check me, since we
[01:19] <eqisow> 're playing with fire here
[01:19] <troubled> eqisow: would do the mbr and part tables, yes?
[01:20] <eqisow> aye
[01:20] <troubled> then I would have to concur
[01:20] <yasasvy> mroc: have you tried launching network manager from the trml?
[01:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Any chance a Lexmark X8350 can be made to work in Kubuntu? It seems this is hopeless :/
[01:21] <mroc> yasasvy: no.  do i need to launch it with sudo or regular?
[01:21] <sveakex> whenever i backspace in an area where i can't my laptop makes a terrible beeping sound
[01:21] <eqisow> rogue720: if the partitions are different use: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=446 count=1
[01:21] <rogue780> eqisow, is there a way to do it without copying the partition tables? also, any way to speed dd up?
[01:21] <sveakex> anyone know why? :S
[01:21] <troubled> eqisow: 446 should get just to mbr
[01:21] <troubled> s/to/the/
[01:21] <yasasvy> mroc: ok use this sudo nm-connection-editor
[01:22] <thiebaude> CoJaBo-Aztec: lexmarks are not well supported
[01:22] <rogue780> sveakex, yes. because you are backspacing into a place where there is no back to space into
[01:22] <troubled> eqisow: (just concuring) :)
[01:22] <eqisow> sorry: dd if=/dev/hdd of=/dev/hdc bs=446 count=1 - as far as speed, that'll take like a couple of milliseconds o.O
[01:22] <Wavesonics> !boot is not what I'm looking for i don't think :/
[01:22] <mroc> yasasvy: same error:  Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.76 - connection update not supported (read-only)
[01:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> thiebaude: So, no chance at all? Not even as a network printer?
[01:22] <rogue780> eqisow, thanks!
[01:23] <LakesProse> Does Ubuntu support PCI Sata adapters ?  there are like no pata hdd left on the market
[01:23] <histo> LakesProse: a lot of them work out of the box
[01:23] <thiebaude> CoJaBo-Aztec: im not even sure how to go about doing that
[01:23] <histo> LakesProse: linux has a lot more hardware supported out of the box than windows does
[01:23] <Guest89825> hey guys......I am trying to install Sipie and having a few issues.  Is there anyone here that could assist me in solving the problem I have encountered?
[01:23] <LakesProse> histo: hmm, is there a list or I would assume?
[01:23] <histo> !ask > Guest89825
[01:24] <histo> LakesProse: there are hardware compatibility lists in the wiki let me get you a link
[01:24] <yasasvy> mroc: try sudo ifup eth0
[01:24] <LakesProse> histo: thanks
[01:24] <rogue780> LakesProse, I am currently running a server with a sata drive and a desktop with two sata drives and a pata drive all on linux..no problems here
[01:24] <Scunizi> CoJaBo-Aztec: have you checked Lexmark's site for info on linux?  occationally you'll find drivers.. I just bought a Brother all in one network machine and can print fine but haven't been able to get the scan or fax portion to work yet despite available drivers.
[01:24] <Wavesonics> /etc/init.d/ <- is this the area i should be looking?
[01:25] <LakesProse> and do you like, put he pci card on the motherboard, plug in the SATA drives and they woudl appread as /dev/sdc or /dev/sdd or something ?!
[01:25] <lalillo> hello how can i install screensavers in kubuntu pls
[01:25] <histo> LakesProse: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport This is not a complete list it is community developed so keep that in mind. The best way to see if your hardware is supported is just to boot the install cd. Which will function as a live distro
[01:25] <histo> Wavesonics: what are you looking for
[01:25] <botux> im having issues seeing samba shares on my windows box can someone assist
[01:25] <LakesProse> rogue780: well I was thinking about sata drives connected *through* a PCI card to the motherboard
[01:25] <canuck1> is ubuntugeek.com trustworthy for guides? I want to install kde 4.2 on this ubuntu 8.10 box
[01:25] <botux> and would also like to see my windows shares onmy ubuntu box
[01:25] <CoJaBo-Aztec> thiebaude: Neither do I, unfortunately it looks like the computer will not be usable with any linux at all :/
[01:25] <Wavesonics> histo: I have a script i need to run on startup, thats all. how can I do this?
[01:25] <mroc> yasasvy: that killed my wireless connection.
[01:25] <Wavesonics> histo: from command line
[01:25] <LakesProse> histo: I'll order the PCI SATA-adapter on the web so it's do&fail
[01:25] <histo> canuck1: its not supported here if something breaks
[01:26] <rogue780> LakesProse, as long as the sata controller on the card is supported by linux...i'd assume it would be since that's at the hardware/bios level
[01:26] <Scunizi> LakesProse: that card would be a SATA pci adaptor card and .. yes.. it'll typically see it..
[01:26] <histo> Wavesonics: put it in /etc/rc.local
[01:26] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Scunizi: Lexmark has specificly stated they intend not to support Linux.
[01:26] <canuck1> histo: kde or ubuntu geek?
[01:26] <yasasvy> mroc: I am sry but is eth0 your wireless connection?
[01:26] <Scunizi> CoJaBo-Aztec: ah.. then it's time to give  money to a different company..
[01:26] <LakesProse> Scunizi: all right, so it would still appear somewhere in /dev/, I wouldn't have to pull any weird tricks
[01:26] <Anacranom> Lexmark != Linux
[01:26] <histo> Wavesonics: or you can add it to your session in System > Preferences > session it will get executed when you log in. if its in rc.local it will get executed on startup
[01:27] <rogue780> Lexmark hates linux and kills puppies
[01:27] <histo> canuck1: i've used both i prefere ubuntu. You might be able to get more help on the issue in #kubuntu
[01:27] <Scunizi> LakesProse: not typically..if the card is recognized the drives will be accessable.. all drives on the current itterations of Ubuntu are known as sd<something>  even ide drives..
[01:27] <Wavesonics> histo:  ok, so rc.local is the ONLY way to do it at boot?
[01:27] <histo> Wavesonics: no their are other ways
[01:27] <histo> rc.d
[01:27] <histo> Wavesonics: rc.d system
[01:27] <wers> where do I save .py scripts? :D this one http://exit66.com/?p=272 actually
[01:28] <lstarnes> wers: anywhere
[01:28] <histo> Wavesonics: but i'm not too familiar with that way. rc.local is the old school way
[01:28] <Anacranom> histo, what about a cron job?
[01:28] <mroc> yasasvy: no.  wlan0 is wireless, connected to internet.  eth0 is wired, connected to computer i want to share internet access to.
[01:28] <pixelmonkey> is the source code in the linux-source-2.6.27 package exactly the source code used to build my kernel in Intrepid, namely 2.6.27-11-generic?
[01:28] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Scunizi: Printer was bought long before Linux was considered as an option. Any suggestions for when the Lexmark breaks?
[01:28] <Crayboff> I want to add a python module, but I can't figure out where the modules are saved, where are they?
[01:28] <rogue780> Scunizi, 9.04 recognizes both my pata and sata drives as hd<something>
[01:28] <Guest89825> I am trying to get Sipie installed to listen to Sirius.  It says it was unable to get session bus, and then I get a bunch of .py errors.  what am I missing?
[01:28] <histo> Wavesonics: Anacranom in linux there are plenty of ways to accomplish the same thing
[01:28] <Scunizi> LakesProse: the only hoops to jump are if you're adding these drives to an existing system.  YOu may have to modify fstab
[01:28] <wers> lstarnes, it will just work as long as it's on my filesystem?
[01:28] <Scunizi> rogue780: really?  hardy and intrepid were all sd<something>
[01:28] <lstarnes> wers: as long as it is on your filesystem and the python interpreter can read it
[01:28] <histo> Wavesonics: I guess the proper "debian" way would be using update-rc.d
[01:29] <Scunizi> CoJaBo-Aztec: hehe.. now?
[01:29] <Wavesonics> histo: hehe true... Also 1 more question, I set up a process to run at boot months ago. and now forgot where I did it, so I can't stop it! Any sugestions?
[01:29] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[01:29] <wers> lstarnes, so how do i ensure that the python interpreter can read it?
[01:29] <Scunizi> CoJaBo-Aztec: "jeez.. a book just fell on it and now it's not working"
[01:29] <rogue780> Scunizi, i don't know if it matters, but it's currently just a live cd running and the two sata drives are laptop sata drives
[01:29] <knAr> where in ubuntu is the setting for adjusting screen brightness?
[01:29] <mgolisch> Wavesonics: /etc/rc.local ?
[01:29] <histo> Wavesonics: so if you sudo update-rc.d scriptname defaults it would put it in runlevel 2 3 4 and 5
[01:29] <Barridus> hmmm.  why would pidgin autostart, when it's not set to in Startup Applications, and "Remember Running Apps" is unchecked there as well.  Maybe UNR (which i am running?)
[01:29] <lstarnes> wers: there usually is nothing extra you need to do that.  To be safe, chmod u+rx file.py
[01:29] <histo> Wavesonics: man update-rc.d for more information
[01:29] <Guest58269> Is there anyone familiar with Sipie?
[01:30] <Scunizi> rogue780: might be.. I don't think they've changed the sub system that drasticly again.
[01:30] <Barridus> oops wrong chan, disregard.
[01:30] <Wavesonics> mgolisch: I greped for it in rc.local, it's not in there :/
[01:30] <lstarnes> wers: technically it doesn't even need the .py if its first line is like #!/usr/bin/env python
[01:30] <wers> lstarnes, thanks. that makes the file an executable, yes?
[01:30] <luo> excuse me, I use Ubuntu9.10. When I and a new user, it's unluky the Tab auto-completion is not working, and then i find the .bashrc not working too. so someone give me some help?
[01:30] <Barridus> !unr
[01:30] <Wavesonics> thx histo
[01:30] <ZachFlem> i need to roll back some changes from synaptic but i only have access via the command line at present, what should i do?
[01:30] <lstarnes> wers: readable and executable by its owner plus whichever permissions it had before
[01:30] <Xcell> luo-- #\ ubuntu+1
[01:31] <Scunizi> luo: please /join #ubuntu+1 for 9.04 support
[01:31] <sliverchair> any fast mp3 player that has automatic lyrics,albumArt,wiki. And mean fast that won't lag if the mp3's come from usb(I got an external 500gb)
[01:31] <luo> thx
[01:31] <Xcell> k
[01:31] <luo> join #/ubuntu+1
[01:31] <Anacranom> histo,  Lexmark != Linux  i will not even consider "work-arounds" for lexmark, its not supported and need to be ignored until they come to us
[01:31] <Xcell> lol...#ubuntu+1
[01:31] <histo> Anacranom: ?
[01:31] <Scunizi> luo: .. no type..   /join #ubuntu+1
[01:31] <histo> Wavesonics: np
[01:32] <wers> lstarnes, got it. thanks. i'll see if the script works :D
[01:32] <knAr> The fn functions to adjust the LCD brightness on my laptop dont actually change the brightness
[01:32] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Scunizi: :P If only... lol
[01:32] <Scunizi> CoJaBo-Aztec: got any kids that can "help"?
[01:32] <knAr> the brightenss popup shows up but the brightness does not change. where can i find these setting in the OS?
[01:33] <LakesProse> Scunizi: ah no, fstab is cakewalk, I was thinking some weird hack to pull off, 'trick' the system, mount the drives as if they're networked or something weird like that
[01:33] <histo> knAr: under system > administration > power options
[01:33] <Tylor> I'm having a bit of a problem with 9.04. My CPU usage seems to be stuck at around 70% on both cores. I can't fine any reason as to why this is happening. Can anyone help?
[01:33] <knAr> ignore my previous statements .. i just forgot how to rread
[01:33] <histo> knAr: system > preferences > power
[01:33] <Xcell> Tylor--  /join #ubuntu+1
[01:33] <Im_Toast> Tylor: Maybe CPU scaling to save power?
[01:33] <histo> !jaunty > Tylor
[01:34] <Scunizi> LakesProse: nope.. but if you're buying from the internet try either newegg.com or tigerdirect.com .. I've had no issues with returning stuff to them.
[01:34] <histo> Scunizi: LakesProse I second newegg.com they rock
[01:34] <LakesProse> Scunizi: all right, will do thanks :)
[01:34] <LakesProse> histo: goody then
[01:34] <Titan8990> LakesProse, +3 newegg
[01:34] <knAr> I adjusted the settings, but the brightness stayed the same
[01:34] <LakesProse> I love the comments on newegg !
[01:35] <rogue780> is there a way to remap a partition table so hdc1 becomes hdc3 and hdc3 becomes hdc1 (swapping them)
[01:35] <knAr> screen has an LED backlight, is there any known conflicts?
[01:35] <Scunizi> rogue780: why are you doing that?
[01:35] <Titan8990> rogue780, not without redoing you whole partition table
[01:35] <Titan8990> rogue780, and restoring for backups... I second Scunizi's question as to why
[01:35] <Scunizi> rogue780: you can mount them to differently named locations
[01:36] <Wavesonics> aaahhhhh i hate how there are multiple copies of rc.local
[01:36] <botux> im able to see windows shares on y ubuntu machine but cant see my ubuntu shares on my windows machine
[01:36] <Scunizi> rogue780: so say hdc1 you can mount it to /media/hdc3 if you want or change the name to /media/data
[01:36] <botux> any ideas
[01:36] <SJr|Work> klogd has 100% cpu usage, on a 8.04 server host, running under VMWare thoughts?
[01:37] <mib_1z1zrv> Sorry I got disconx
[01:37] <Scunizi> SJr|Work: if tracker is installed in the background that might be the culpret
[01:37] <SJr|Work> what is tracker?
[01:37] <dingleberry> How do I install the mkraid command???
[01:37] <rogue780> the drive is out of a windows box and i just realized that the partitions are swapped since I worked from right to left and the original drive was made left to right....not sure if this will affect how windows views it or not and i don't want to re-copy 150gb to if i don't have to
[01:38] <botux> i can see my windows shares on my ubuntu machine now but cant see my ubuntu shares on my windows box any ideas
[01:38] <Scunizi> SJr|Work: it's as it sounds.. it indexes the system files for faster access.. on some systems it goes nuts.. you also might ask about your issue in #ubuntu-server
[01:38] <rogue780> botux, windows can't see linux shares
[01:38] <botux> rogue780: yes it can using samba
[01:38] <Anacranom> not without tools...
[01:38] <ZachFlem> i installed some updates from synaptic which included "fglrx" and it fails at boot time, now X wont start, i get  "Saw signal 11. Server Aborting" can any one help me? or at least acknowledge that my message is being seen???
[01:39] <rogue780> botux, drr...i was thinking mounts
[01:39] <Scunizi> rogue780: so you're going to put this windows drive in the machine..?? should work.. and yes.. windows can see linux shares and vice versa
[01:39] <botux> rogue780: its ok im having one of those days too lol
[01:40] <aaronator> my kernel is not compiling after fakeroot make-kpkg...... any ideas?
[01:40] <Scunizi> :)
[01:40] <botux> any ideas as to how to make it where windows can see samba shares?
[01:41] <rogue780> botux, can i see your smb.conf?
[01:42] <Scunizi> botux: works between my vm of win2kpro and the ubuntu host.. however you have to set the x bit on permissions to make it happen seemlessly
[01:42] <vitaliy_> i just installed linux and i ge tthis error Your firewall may be blocking access to port 9339. HELLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPP i get it when i try to play my favourite game online
[01:42] <histo> !samba > botux
[01:42] <lstarnes> vitaliy_: are you behind a router?
[01:42] <vitaliy_> yes but when i had windows i didnt have this problem
[01:42] <aaronator> noone wants to touch the kernel compiling question?
[01:43] <lstarnes> vitaliy_: then you may need to set your router to forward port 9339 to your computer's local IP
[01:43] <botux> rogue780: yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/148016/
[01:43] <Scunizi> aaronator: ouch.. not me.. might also try ##linux if nobody here responds right now.
[01:43] <botux> histo: those tutorials are like greek to me i cant understand them
[01:43] <aaronator> thanks
[01:43] <histo> botux: well you can pretty much right click and go to sharing options
[01:43] <rogue780> crap..where'd i put those screws...
[01:44] <histo> botux: as for not getting a prompt to log in your may have to read a tutorial.
[01:45] <botux> histo: ive read several and cant understand them
[01:45] <histo> botux: right click on folder and go to sharing options
[01:46] <rogue780> botux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/148018/
[01:46] <vitaliy_> i enabled dmz and it still doesnt work
[01:47] <Scunizi> vitaliy_: you might need to install firestarter which is a graphical tool to adjust the firewall on your new linux box.. that port is probably closed by default.  sorry never used firestarter myself but others here have.
[01:47] <rogue780> botux, look at my global section...the security = SHARE and usershare allow guests = yes parts might be what you need...but that smb.conf works for me
[01:47] <botux> rogue780: that your smb.conf
[01:49] <botux> rogue780: not sure im following
[01:49] <rogue780> botux, also you might want to check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Samba_Server i know it says feisty, but the smb.conf configuration examples should help you
[01:50] <lionelbrown> i'm using xchat-gnome, is there a better irc client for ubuntu?
[01:51] <seanp2k> Hello, I have some wacky disk problems trying to set up mdraid on a running ubuntu server system...I work in IT and have 2+ years linux exp. if someone would like to help me out
[01:51] <Im_Toast> I like Konversation
[01:51] <lionelbrown> is that kde based?
[01:51] <Xcell> ya
[01:52] <wers> to run php scripts, what do i install on intrepid?
[01:52] <Barridus> lionelbrown, i like plain vanilla xchat for x window
[01:52] <WERDER|iceroot> wers: php5
[01:52] <Xcell> regular xchat works good with lemmings scripts
[01:52] <wers> thanks WERDER|iceroot :D
[01:52] <wers> i was trying php4 lol
[01:52] <lionelbrown> thx for the input
[01:52] <Xcell> ok
[01:52] <lstarnes> wers: are you going to run php with apache?
[01:53] <wers> lstarnes, i dont think i have to. I'm running this http://the-erm.com/~erm/potty-timer.phps
[01:53] <Barridus> Xcell, scripts?  been meaning to get some.  lemmings you say?
[01:53] <lstarnes> wers: in that case php5 should be fine
[01:54] <wers> WERDER|iceroot, i still get '/usr/bin/php: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[01:54] <Xcell> ya.. lemmings makes excellent scripts for xchat
[01:54] <vitaliy_> does anyone know how to use firestarter?
[01:54] <Xcell> google.. lemmings scripts for xchat
[01:55] <seanp2k> again if anyone would like to help out with swap not even working / getting mdraid going I would greatly appreciate the help
[01:55] <vitaliy_> sneap2k: please calm down
[01:55] <vitaliy_> sneap2k: just kitting i had to say this :)
[01:56] <vitaliy_> sneap2k: i saw the movie anger management a second ago and i had to say it
[01:56] <Barridus> Xcell, yeah did that. i see a 2004 version, looking for newer
[01:57] <Xcell> ya.. im using 3.1.  they are excellent
[01:57] <Barridus> yeah that's what i found.  if it ain't broke don't fix it, i guess :)  thx
[01:57] <Xcell> exactly
[01:58] <sliverchair> what's the Paint for ubuntu?
[01:59] <FrozenFire> GIMP
[01:59] <sliverchair> i just need some very simple graphic tool
[01:59] <rogue780> sliverchair, GIMP
[01:59] <FoxBlitzz> GIMP is more like Photoshop
[01:59] <FoxBlitzz> I know KDE has Krita...
[01:59] <sliverchair> FrozenFire: too slow
[01:59] <FrozenFire> sliverchair: :\ GIMP is far from slow.
[01:59] <sliverchair> I mean like notepad for graphics
[01:59] <Xcell> sliverchair--  http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1328794&seqNum=2&rll=1
[01:59] <FrozenFire> I'm sure there are vector graphics applications in the repositories
[02:00] <rogue780> sliverchair, you might be able to run paint with WINE
[02:00] <FoxBlitzz> How about osalt.com?
[02:00] <Barridus> Xcell, i'm reading the help file and it requires python plugin for xchat.  i'm not sure how to determine if i have that or not.
[02:00] <sliverchair> i'm trying gpaint
[02:01] <FoxBlitzz> I don't think he wants a vector graphics program
[02:01] <Xcell> Barridus--  i just ran it..it installs it
[02:01] <FoxBlitzz> Raster and vector are two entirely different worlds
[02:01] <Xcell> wait
[02:01] <brucelee> is gimp slow?
[02:01] <ddoggx> ...i need to compile source code (for wine) i think im supposed to run commands at the dir i want compiled. how can i do this? unless there is a better wau
[02:01] <FoxBlitzz> IMHO GIMP still needs redesigning.
[02:01] <Xcell> make sure you install regular xchat  and not xchat-gnome
[02:01] <neeto> I am trying to setup a route to my xbox360 on the same network as my computer. The xbox has DHCP turned on, and it's automatically recieving the netmask 255.255.255.0 from my router. I try to add it with route add -net 192.168.1.116 netmask 255.255.255.0 and route gives me an error saying netmask doesn't match the address... what.
[02:02] <sliverchair> nice, gpaint is what exactly i meant
[02:02] <Barridus> Xcell, yeah i use reg xchat.  xchat-gnome took away my happy
[02:02] <Xcell> ok..then install lemmings..
[02:02] <FoxBlitzz> Too many buttons. Can't they be grouped into a single button?
[02:02] <Barridus> off to try it, brb
[02:02] <Xcell> ok
[02:02] <FoxBlitzz> Also, why is it that GIMP on Windows respects the single taskbar button/utility windows thing when on Linux, it's just like 2.4. :/
[02:03] <ddoggx> is there a easy way to compile source code in a dir?
[02:03] <ddoggx> and or how?
[02:03] <Im_Toast> Hey, what is the color coding on ls in console?
[02:03] <FoxBlitzz> ddoggx: ./configure && make?
[02:03] <FoxBlitzz> I dunno, different programs have different buildsystems
[02:03] <neeto> ddoggx: read the readme, usually it's ./configure if there is a configure file
[02:04] <lstarnes> ddoggx: it depends on what else is in there.  If you have a configure script and a Makefile.in, FoxBlitzz's method works
[02:04] <solexious> Hello, I want to add a line to apt.conf but ubuntu uses a apt.conf.d folder, I added the line to one of the files in it to use a proxy but it was removed after a reboot. What should I do to stop this?
[02:04] <Mewtwo> I can't help but honestly feel like I'm the only person to ever encounter circular dependencies.
[02:04] <Im_Toast> Hey, what is the color coding on ls in console? Or is there a command I can use to find out?
[02:04] <FoxBlitzz> Mewtwo: I feel your pain
[02:04] <Mewtwo> It's making it impossible to compile Peng
[02:04] <lstarnes> Im_Toast: try dircolors
[02:04] <Mewtwo> thus, impossible to get online.
[02:04] <vitaliy_> how to enable a port in firestarterÉ.
[02:04] <vitaliy_> ?
[02:05] <Mewtwo> I'd just apt-get the files if I could be online, but I can't
[02:06] <vitaliy_> how to enable a port in firestarte???
[02:06] <vitaliy_> how to enable a port in firestarte???
[02:06] <vitaliy_> how to enable a port in firestarte???
[02:06] <ddoggx> okie then....i found the commands but where do i enter them? in the terminal??
[02:06] <vitaliy_> sorry its a bug i sent it twise by mistake
[02:06] <lstarnes> ddoggx: yes
[02:06] <Mewtwo> It went through three times
[02:06] <lstarnes> ddoggx: usually while cd'd to the appropriate directory
[02:07] <FoxBlitzz> !ubottu patience
[02:07] <FoxBlitzz> !patience
[02:07] <FoxBlitzz> Gah, I suck at using the bot. :)
[02:07] <a5x7> Im trying to install xbox360 controller on hardy heron and keep getting "make" error "Makefile:7: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop" any ideas? I copy and pasted the makefile to gedit directy from ubuntus official thread about the controller install..
[02:07] <Mewtwo> I just wish I could figure out those dependencies :/
[02:07] <Mewtwo> or a way to force installation of one
[02:07] <FoxBlitzz> Mewtwo: Your own program?
[02:08] <Mewtwo> FoxBlitzz: Peng is an AOL dialer
[02:08] <vitaliy_> how to enable a port in firestarte???
[02:08] <Mewtwo> I got it to compile on Damn Small Linux just fine
[02:08] <Mewtwo> I could get a link to a tutorial linking to it if you need...
[02:09] <mgolisch> a5x7: aol dialer?
[02:09] <Mewtwo> My problem is compiling it, is all - can't meet the dependencies
[02:09] <mgolisch> ups
[02:09] <mgolisch> Mewtwo:  i mean
[02:09] <Mewtwo> Yeah, my mom's an idiot
[02:09] <Mewtwo> so I have to jump through tons of hoops
[02:09] <RS_Asleepy> Is anyone running Ubuntu Server 8.10 on a VIA Epia it all?
[02:09] <mgolisch> what is a aol dialer?
[02:09] <Mewtwo> to get online unless I'm on XP
[02:09] <Barridus> Xcell, script did not appear to work, script commands are nonfunctional
[02:09] <Mewtwo> It lets one dial into their AOL account
[02:09] <Mewtwo> and be online
[02:09] <Barridus> !paste
[02:09] <Xcell> vitaliy_--  try this   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404332
[02:09] <a5x7> no, trying to install my xbox 360 controller in ubuntu
[02:10] <lionelbrown> anyone know a good way to map a windows share on login (likewise-open auth against AD)?
[02:10] <mgolisch> Mewtwo: lol? you need a software to access your internets?
[02:10] <a5x7> from this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller#Troubleshooting
[02:10] <Mewtwo> Yeah, sadly.
[02:10] <mgolisch> Mewtwo: is that a joke?
[02:10] <mgolisch> omg aol sucks
[02:10] <Mewtwo> mgolisch: AOL is a joke.
[02:10] <mgolisch> :)
[02:10] <Mewtwo> But like I said.
[02:10] <Mewtwo> My mom's an idiot.
[02:10] <a5x7> im stuck on the makefile part and keep getting errors
[02:10] <Barridus> Xcell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/148028/
[02:10] <Mewtwo> And refuses to look into ven DSL
[02:10] <Mewtwo> :/
[02:10] <lstarnes> a5x7: pastebin the errors
[02:11] <Xcell> Barridus--  it was buggy @ start  for me 2.. i just played with it..but maybe you need to re-start xchat?
[02:11] <mgolisch> a5x7: did you try what make suggested?
[02:11] <Xcell> plus
[02:11] <mgolisch> like looking if you have spaces instead of tabs or something like that
[02:11] <a5x7> Istarnes: just one error.. when i type make in the dir i get error "Makefile:7: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop.
[02:11] <a5x7> " and am new to linux
[02:11] <Brucevdk> Hi, does anybody know if it's possible to monitor what commands a logged-in user is executing (terminal only)? .bash_history isn't an option since the user can modify this.
[02:11] <Xcell> right click in blank spot in chat window and look for load scripts
[02:11] <vitaliy_> thnx but it didnt help
[02:12] <Xcell> vitaliy_--  im trying for you .. let me look some more
[02:12] <mgolisch> Brucevdk: ps?
[02:12] <Barridus> Xcell, nope :/
[02:12] <vitaliy_> i found this http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Using_Firestarter_to_Configure_an_Ubuntu_Linux_Firewall
[02:12] <a5x7> i named the file "Makefile" should it be ".Makefile"?
[02:12] <FoxBlitzz> a5x7: It should just be "makefile"
[02:12] <Xcell> vitaliy_--  try this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=959962
[02:12] <FoxBlitzz> A period implies you want the file hidden
[02:12] <FoxBlitzz> Also, Unix systems are case-sensitive
[02:13] <a5x7> FoxBlitzz: does it matter it it is "Makefile" or "makefile"?
[02:13] <a5x7> i see
[02:13] <Brucevdk> mgolisch: I guess indirectly, but that's more the resulting processes then the actual commands. I was actually interested in what commands a user is executing, but it might make more sense to just lock down the commands a user is able to execute.
[02:13] <mgolisch> it should be Makefile
[02:13] <vitaliy_> i found what i need thnx anyway man :)
[02:13] <Xcell> ok
[02:13] <FoxBlitzz> Are you making your own makefile from scratch, or what? :)
[02:13] <RS_Asleepy> Trying to boot the Ubuntu Server 8.10 Server CD and it loads as far as "Loading...boot" and goes no further. Any ideas? :(
[02:13] <FoxBlitzz> What does the readme say?
[02:13] <Toad> it seems the mysql client package in intrepid has broken SSL support
[02:13] <Toad> anyone confirm?
[02:13] <ddoggx> makefile.in eh?
[02:13] <a5x7> FoxBlitzz: I am copying and pasting it from this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller#Troubleshooting
[02:14] <FoxBlitzz> Ah
[02:14] <Brucevdk> mgolisch: though actually, still might be handy for detecting a rogue user
[02:14] <Davide> damn does anyone have a SB Audigy working properly on their Ubunut Installation??
[02:14] <lstarnes> ddoggx: ./configure should make a Makefile from the Makefile.in (note the capital M)
[02:15] <lionelbrown> anyone know a good way to map a windows share on login (likewise-open auth against AD)?
[02:15] <Mion> lionelbrown: fstab
[02:15] <Mion> ?
[02:15] <ddoggx> what would "sudo" mean if put before ./configure? i see someone explaining it that way..
[02:15] <Xcell> Barridus--  now right click in an empty spot in the chat window and click.. load scripts
[02:15] <Mion> hmm, at login
[02:16] <Mion> .bash_profile
[02:16] <mgolisch> a5x7: why dont you do what make suggested?
[02:16] <lstarnes> ddoggx: it configures it as root.  Usually, make and ./configure do not need sudo
[02:16] <lstarnes> ddoggx: make install  might
[02:16] <mgolisch> a5x7: replace the wrong 8 spaces with a tab
[02:16] <mattgyver83> I have 150g allocated for Windows vista and 130 for Ubuntu.  As i rarely use Vista i would like to resize this partition and grow ubuntu into the unallocated space.  Will doing so corrupt the ubuntu partition or must I backup and recreate the partition for the desired space?
[02:16] <a5x7> mgolisch: ok.. i will try and find the 8 spaces and let you know if that works
[02:17] <rockx0zone> I have been working on getting the nvidia-180 drivers installed for a couple days and I've had no success. Can anyone help?
[02:17] <reid> dayum
[02:17] <reid> so many people in here
[02:17] <reid> !xsensor
[02:17] <reid> !xsensors
[02:17] <Davide> Sigh
[02:17] <Xcell> !lmsensors
[02:17] <Davide> I'm desperate
[02:18] <reid> !desperation
[02:18] <Davide> I'm about to install WINDOWS!!! :( :(
[02:18] <reid> meh
[02:18] <reid> !windows
[02:18] <Xcell> lol
[02:18] <reid> lol
[02:18] <reid> Davide: why?
[02:18] <Davide> I can't get sound to work
[02:18] <reid> Davide: what sound card?
[02:18] <Im_Toast> How do you mount a device through the command line?
[02:18] <lionelbrown> I'm new, but lol
[02:18] <Davide> I have an SB audigy and I cannot get sound to work
[02:18] <reid> Davide: don't go back to windows, there is definately a work-around
[02:19] <reid> Davide: took me almost 3 weeks to get this laptop to work up-to-par
[02:19] <mgolisch> a5x7: its the spaces in the lines after all: and install:
[02:19] <Mion> Davide: oss 4.1 is really nice
[02:19] <Davide> can you point me in any direction? this is sort of first impact with ubuntu for me
[02:19] <Xcell> ive been off windoze 2 yrs running..
[02:19] <rockx0zone> reid: i hope you backed that up.  it would suck to have to do it all over again...
[02:19] <Davide> Mion what's oss 4.1?
[02:19] <reid> rockx0zone: oh, its easy now, I was just out of practice
[02:19] <Davide> I'm very noob
[02:19] <reid> rockx0zone: plus, I'm used to barebones UNIX
[02:20] <ary> hi. How can I install propietary ati driver in a ubuntu 9.04?
[02:20] <reid> rockx0zone: never really had to worry about GUI or graphics drivers
[02:20] <Mion> Davide: opensound.com
[02:20] <reid> ary: google Catalyst Linux
[02:20] <Xcell> ary--  /join #ubuntu+1
[02:20] <rockx0zone> reid: yea graphics seem to be very problematic for some reason...for me anyways
[02:20] <reid> there should be a tutorial on how to get the debs from AMD themselves
[02:20] <Mion> Davide: should be some ubuntu packages for it
[02:20] <ary> reid: really?
[02:20] <reid> ary: yeah, I'm using ATI, one of the newer cards too, x1200 series
[02:20] <Xcell> cool
[02:21] <reid> ary: if you need help, I can help you out more, preferabbly in a less trafficked channel though, hard to read in this one =P
[02:21] <ary> reid: my question is: Catalyst support the new Xorg 1.6?
[02:21] <a5x7> mgolisch: thanks, I followed your advice and now get the error "make: *** No rule to make target `make', needed by `all'.  Stop." when attempting make command
[02:21] <reid> ary: oh, good point.. hmmm I run 8.10 for a reason =P
[02:22] <reid> ary: but if I recall I had no problem when I built them manually on 9.04
[02:22] <reid> ary: I tried them all out
[02:22] <reid> !irssi
[02:22] <reid> meh ubottu is boring today
[02:22] <sn00p-> How do I bring back up my wireless in ubuntu
[02:22] <ary> reid: are Catalyst drivers in ubuntu repository?
[02:22] <reid> ary: why you choose jaunty anyways?
[02:23] <Mion> Davide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575521
[02:23] <a5x7> sn00p-: install wifi radar
[02:23] <reid> ary: they are, but don't use those ones unless you have a very old card
[02:23] <Davide> Mion thank you gonna check it out!
[02:23] <ddoggx> i know where the dir i want to compile is at i belive
[02:23] <Mion> Davide: but the flashsupport isn't needed anymore
[02:23] <sn00p-> wifi radar?
[02:23] <ary> reid: I've ati radeon express x1250
[02:23] <ddoggx> but how should i cd it?
[02:23] <reid> ary: the ones in the repos are like.. 8.9 or something, they are up to 9.4 now
[02:23] <reid> ary: we have the same exact card
[02:23] <solexious> Hello, I want to add a line to apt.conf but ubuntu uses a apt.conf.d folder, I added the line to one of the files in it to use a proxy but it was removed after a reboot. What should I do to stop this?
[02:23] <a5x7> sn00p-: yes with synaptic package manager
[02:24] <Mion> Davide: so you can skip htat
[02:24] <ary> reid: ahaha onboard!
[02:24] <reid> ary: join the channel eeepc-ot, its quiet in there I'll help you out
[02:24] <Mion> Davide: there is probably a more up to date guide floating around somewhere
[02:24] <sn00p-> a5x7, ok thanks
[02:24] <rockx0zone> is there a mythbuntu channel?
[02:25] <rockx0zone> nm found it
[02:25] <a5x7> ﻿mgolisch: thanks, I followed your advice and now get the error "make: *** No rule to make target `make', needed by `all'.  Stop." when attempting make command
[02:25] <Mion> Davide: it might even be in the ubuntu repos
[02:25] <a5x7> im a complete linux n00b
[02:27] <ddoggx> ah! i cd'd it...trying to sudo./configure now
[02:27] <bludimnd> anybody have double inboxes when using evolution with gmail?
[02:28] <ddoggx> BAAH i need the flex pakage :b
[02:28] <rockx0zone> how do I completely remove all of the nvidia drivers and start from scratch?  if i use synaptic it doesn't seem to help, is there a better way?
[02:29] <Ileon> wow there are alot of people in this room!
[02:29] <Ileon> 1324!
[02:29] <ddoggx> im searching for the FLEX pakage..but it doesnt come up under "flex"?
[02:29] <a5x7> how do I edit the applications menu commands? like say if i wanted to add sudo before the command the starts joystick calibration ?
[02:30] <ddoggx> that is....in the aptget add/remove programs
[02:30] <kimws1901_> hello~
[02:30] <HammerHead66> ﻿rockx0zone:in terminal type this ------>         	 	 	 	 	 	   sudo apt-get --purge remove
[02:30] <ddoggx> hi
[02:31] <kimws1901_> do you know that use pidgin messenger?
[02:32] <Don_Miguel> kimws1901_,  what is your problem with pidgin ?
[02:32] <dsdeiz> how do i know the avaiable groups in ubuntu?
[02:32] <a5x7> ddoggx: i mean how to i change it to run with special variable or a sudo in front useing the gui gnome desktop instead of cli?
[02:32] <ddoggx> i have add/remove programs not apt-get. How should i type this in the terminal?
[02:32] <HammerHead66> ﻿dsdeiz: command "/list" without "  "
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !irc
[02:33] <dsdeiz> huh?
[02:33] <ddoggx> a5x7: i got cd and sudo working
[02:33] <vitaliy_> hi guys i enabled ports in firestarter i enabled ports in my router I DID EVERYTHING AND I STILL GET THE FOLLOWING Your firewall may be blocking access to port 9339. HELLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[02:33] <HammerHead66> ﻿﻿dsdeiz: or here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme
[02:34] <a5x7> ddoggx: no i understand how to cd and sudo from cli, the program is allready installed, i just want to change the variables or how it runs from the gui
[02:34] <vitaliy_> hi guys i enabled ports in firestarter i enabled ports in my router I DID EVERYTHING AND I STILL GET THE FOLLOWING Your firewall may be blocking access to port 9339.
[02:34] <dsdeiz> oh, what i meant are the groups such as "www-data"
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> a5x7 create a new launcher with gksudo app parameters
[02:34] <maxagaz> is there applications on ubuntu to use ethernet digital control machine (to put at the entrance of a shop) ?
[02:35] <Davide> Mion what would I look under in the repos do you mean under the Add/Remove Applications?
[02:35] <mgolisch> vitaliy_: did you forward it to your computer in the router?
[02:35] <Mion> yes
[02:35] <vitaliy_> obviously :)
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !synaptic
[02:35] <mgolisch> vitaliy_: got another computer around? you could try to telnet to that port and see if its blocked
[02:35] <a5x7> Jack_Sparrow: how do i create a new shortcut in my applications gui menu?
[02:36] <mgolisch> vitaliy_: then you know if its a problem with the router or your computer
[02:36] <vitaliy_> its not
[02:36] <vitaliy_> when i had windows on this computer it worked
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> a5x7 gconfig editor or just create a new launcher on your desktop for now
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > vitaliy_
[02:37] <solexious|netbk> apt-get update is slower using a local lan apt cacher than directly, is that normal?
[02:37] <a5x7> Jack_Sparrow: thanks  i will google more on createing a new launcher
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:38] <vitaliy_> !mgolisch  when i had windows on this computer it worked
[02:38] <ogre> !ops | freez3
[02:38] <r|cKy> i cant get skype sound and system sound working at the same time, i have to choose one or the other, any1 got the same problem? Realtek ALC880
[02:38] <sheri> Hi. I just installed a fresh Ubuntu, and I enabled the desktop cube, but it's only two sided. How do I get all 4?
[02:38] <vitaliy_> mgolish when i had windows on this computer it worked
[02:38] <fbc-mx> someone's spamming in the channel
[02:38] <rockx0zone> hammerhead66: i went into synaptic and tried install nvidia-177 so it would remove nvidia-180, it went through the installation and i went into hardware devices, and 180 was still in there.  i can not get rid of it.
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ogre Whats the problem
[02:38] <elky> ogre, doing what?
[02:39] <LjL> ogre: ?
[02:39] <rockx0zone> hammerhead66: did run that command btw
[02:39] <ogre> Jack_Sparrow,  freez3 is spamming on join
[02:39] <mgolisch> vitaliy_: configure your firewall then
[02:39] <vitaliy_> mgolisch: i did
[02:39] <ogre> thanks for being so quick ops :)
[02:40] <LjL> ogre: (might be useful to specify the reason of the call, especially when it's something not quite immediately visible such as on join spam... :)
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ogre NExt time mention it in channel rather than waking all the other ops
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey LjL , I survived..
[02:40] <ogre> oops sorry all. Just trying to let you all know
[02:40] <fbc-mx> Is there anything that will allow you to prioritize your bandwidth use by port or application??
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ogre Not a problem
[02:41] <LjL> hey Jack_Sparrow
[02:41] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: by port yes
[02:41] <Cpudan80> oops
[02:41] <Cpudan80> that's for fbc-mx
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:41] <Cpudan80> fbc-mx: You generally do that directly on the router, its called QoS
[02:41] <Clem16> Has anyone else been having problems with firefox crashing when loading a java app?
[02:42] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: Whats that package in 8.10 that lets you use Jaunty sources (ie. pull the package from Jaunty using synaptic)
[02:42] <rockx0zone> can anyone tell me how to remove a video driver that won't let me remove it through synaptic?  it goes through the motions but its still there when i restart
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80 That is NEVER a good idea
[02:42] <Cpudan80> Clem16: 32 bit or 64 bit
[02:42] <ddoggx> i want to make my system install packages, but i do not think my system calls my apt-get "apt-get" it says add/remove programs.....how would i adress this program in the terminal?
[02:42] <Clem16> 64
[02:42] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: yeah but there was some package to let you do it ...
[02:42] <r|cKy> i cant get skype sound and system sound working at the same time, i have to choose one or the other, any1 got the same problem? Realtek ALC880 - Ubuntu 8.10
[02:42] <mu2> Hi. Need some help with running qt4 applications (mixxx) under ubuntu. It falis to open the audio device. Could anyone please help?
[02:42] <Clem16> 8.10
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80 No package will let you do it safely
[02:43] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: wpa-supplicant is so incredibly broken in 8.10 - I'm surprised that the newer version wasnt immediately backported
[02:43] <sammyF> mu2: doesn't mixx use Jackd?
[02:43] <Cpudan80> WPA2 enterprise wont work at all in 8.10 because of wpa-supplicant
[02:43] <Barridus> Xcell, i got lemming script to work, i just copied it into the .xchat2 folder manually.  the script is wonky i guess.
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80 Buy supported hardware.
[02:44] <fbc-mx> Cpudan80,  unfortunately I do not control my router... I wanted something that would give my mail traffic priority, over my bittorent. Instead of limiting my bandwidth on my torrent software which is not effecient managment fo my bandwidth.
[02:44] <nikitis> How do i force a umount on a cdrom?  Im trying to install a program that requires me to switch cds and it has requested i do so, however it says its busy cause the program is using it.....  duh
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> nikitis Sounds like you are in wine and not ubuntu
[02:44] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: lol well I've tried it on a variety of chipsets ...
[02:44] <mu2> sammyF: dont know about Jackd. i see it depends on qt4, so i tried system>prefs>Qt4 settings. Phonon tab says no backend!
[02:44] <Cpudan80> Atheros, Intel ....
[02:44] <Cpudan80> I even posted the solution to the bug report ....
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80 Try offtopic for discussions.
[02:45] <nikitis> Jack_Sparrow, ya, so..  its ubuntu that isnt letting me eject.  How do i force it?
[02:45] <RaNdY> Hello, I just install 8.10 over winXP, it asked me for a reboot and gave 2 choices: win and ubuntu, when the splash came up, it loaded full but then my monitor (video) just went off.. any tips guys? (I have a NVIDIA GeForceMX400 64mb)
[02:45] <sammyF> mu2: it says "no audio device" right?
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> nikitis what application
[02:45] <nikitis> Jack_Sparrow, Garmin mapsource setup
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[02:45] <Cpudan80> !java | Clem16
[02:45] <mu2> sammyF: yes..and it depends on Jackd
[02:45] <sammyF> mu2: if my memory serves well, mixxx uses the jackd audio server
[02:46] <nikitis> Jack_Sparrow, this is NOT a wine issue.  I know this will work.  How do I force umount?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> nikitis If you are trying to install something under wine.. ASK IN WINE
[02:46] <Barridus> RaNdY, is this a dell inspiron 8200 by chance
[02:46] <sammyF> mu2: install jackd, jackctrl and patchage, then start jackd in a terminal with "jackd -d alsa"
[02:46] <fbc-mx> nikitis, try a sudo <command>
[02:47] <mu2> sammyF: the exact error message is "Audio device could not be opened".
[02:47] <nikitis> ok, no more from you.  Someone please tell me the unix command to umount even if the device is busy.
[02:47] <r|cKy> i cant get skype sound and system sound working at the same time, i have to choose one or the other, any1 got the same problem? Pls help, im using Realtek ALC880 in Ubuntu 8.10
[02:47] <mu2> sammyF: Thanks. Will try that..brb
[02:47] <sammyF> mu2: or start jackd using jackcontrol. then start mixxx
[02:47] <fbc-mx> nikitis, if the root account can't do it.. then you will have to force it..
[02:47] <Royall> Where is the trash bin located specifically?
[02:47] <RaNdY> Barridus, nope. Its a clone. P4 2.0 256mb and 64mb video
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !trash
[02:47] <fbc-mx> nikitis, type man umount to find the command to do that.
[02:48] <Barridus> RaNdY, is it a laptop at least?  i don't understand
[02:48] <RaNdY> Barridus, a desktop.
[02:48] <fbc-mx> !intelvideo
[02:48] <Supermetalfreak> Freez3 is really annoying
[02:48] <fbc-mx> I thought we banned that guy
[02:48] <Barridus> RaNdY, how many VGA or Video ports do you have (including unused)
[02:48] <lstarnes> Supermetalfreak: he was removed abd blocked from the network and likely this channel as well
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> fbc-mx one sec
[02:49] <[1]dmradford> hello all... does anybody know how I can kick my username from the server... I forgot to exit the IRC before leaving work...
[02:49] <lstarnes> [1]dmradford: if it is registered, /msg nicksderv help ghost
[02:49] <RaNdY> Barridus, just one. (NVIDIA)
[02:49] <Supermetalfreak> He pms me
[02:49] <lstarnes> [1]dmradford: nickserv not nicksderv
[02:50] <Barridus> RaNdY, just one *port*?  (not talking gpu's)
[02:50] <Barridus> like it doesn't have a VGA and a DVI?
[02:50] <mu2> sammyF: i am unable to find jack-ctrl!
[02:50] <RaNdY> Yup Barridus
[02:51] <sammyF> mu2: you don't need it automatically, it just makes life with jackd easier.. one sec. I'll check how it's really called ;)
[02:52] <mu2> sammyF: is it called jack-tools ?
[02:52] <Barridus> RaNdY, does ctrl-alt-f1 work to drop out to a regular command prompt login?
[02:52] <sammyF> mu2: qjackctl
[02:52] <RaNdY> When will I do ctrl-alt-f1? After or before the splash?
[02:53] <mu2> sammyF: great. grabbing it!
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> RaNdY after
[02:53] <Barridus> RaNdY, for this test, try it after it blanks
[02:53] <sammyF> mu2: way easier to setup jackd with it than by using the terminal ;)
[02:54] <Clem16> I'm using: java -version
[02:54] <Clem16> java version "1.6.0_10"
[02:54] <Clem16> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_10-b33)
[02:54] <Clem16> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0-b15, mixed mode)
[02:54] <Clem16>  and firefox still crashed on me
[02:54] <FloodBot2> Clem16: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <RaNdY> After the Splash, my monitor led from `green` just goes to `red` and it hangs.. But I can see the CPU led still blinking and I am assuming its still working? or did it hang?
[02:54] <Xcell> Jack_Sparrow--  in 7.10 its .trash..  my question is..is it valid to empty all its contents?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Xcell yes
[02:54] <Xcell> ok... thanks
[02:54] <Barridus> RaNdY, try what i said with ctrl-alt-f1.  you'll know for sure then if it's hung
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> RaNdY having trouble getting cd to bot live?
[02:55] <ddoggx> WEWT
[02:55] <RaNdY> Barridus, Okey sir. I'll try it out.
[02:55] <ddoggx> i got it compiling!
[02:55] <grkblood13> what do i do about this
[02:55] <Barridus> RaNdY, i suspect xorg (the gui manager) is confiured badly and it's directing the video to something nonexistant (the nvidia driver of that 400 series seems buggy and bad in my experience)
[02:55] <grkblood13> http://pastebin.com/m69d97772
[02:55] <RaNdY> Jack_Sparrow : Yes, even having trouble going to live CD.
[02:55] <grkblood13> i tried rapairing it and it said it was fine
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> RaNdY To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F4 and select safe graphics mode then press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[02:56] <mrthraz1> hey , how can i find out if im using both of my cores cause  sys mon only shows on core
[02:56] <Barridus> RaNdY, so basically, linux is not "locked" but may be trying to draw the gui on something that does not exist.  it won't try to do that if you drop to the terminal with alt-ctrl-f1
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> grkblood13 Please post a question with your link to the issue
[02:56] <grkblood13> i did
[02:56] <grkblood13> http://pastebin.com/m69d97772
[02:56] <Barridus> so please check that RaNdY
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> grkblood13 Please post an explanation of the issue, not just your link
[02:57] <RaNdY> Barridus, I'll try that. After that any suggestion on what next step shall I proceed to?
[02:57] <mrthraz1> hey , how can i find out if im using both of my cores cause  sys mon only shows on core
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> RaNdY Start here     To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F4 and select safe graphics mode then press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[02:57] <usser> mrthraz1, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:57] <mjgaming> Hey I have the Ubuntu Live CD with 5.10 with it and was wandering how to install it on my computer?
[02:57] <usser> mrthraz1, does it list two cpus?
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mjgaming dont, it has reached eol
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[02:58] <Barridus> RaNdY, probably googling for xorg.conf tips for your particular hardware version.
[02:58] <RaNdY> Okey Jack_Sparrow, I'll also note that.
[02:58] <Barridus> RaNdY, i found one for my geforce go mx440 that worked on my old laptop, but it would probably not work for your desktop.  it was pretty well laid out with code you can paste, etc.  you may have similar results
[02:58] <Mike_lifeguard> mjgaming: you want something that's not super-old. 9.04 comes out in a few days. 8.10 is newest; 8.04 is the latest long term release
[02:59] <Mike_lifeguard> or not
[02:59] <RaNdY> Barridus, can you notice me the URL wherein you've found those xorg conf?
[03:00] <mu2> sammyF: I got the packages jackd & qjackctl installed.
[03:00] <sammyF> mu2: I installed mixxx to try it out. looks like it really needs some midi stuff
[03:01] <mu2> sammyF: I see "Jack Control" under "Sound & Video". I am running _ubuntu_ intrepid
[03:01] <mrthraz1> usser: hey thanks, but the info need som decihping what am i looking for
[03:01] <sammyF> mu2: k .. start jack control
[03:02] <usser> mrthraz1, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor
[03:02] <Barridus> RaNdY, i'm not certain this will work for you, but it may at least give you some context for what you are looking for.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528207  note the part about "DFP-0" that was necessary.  but it may be different for your computer.
[03:02] <usser> mrthraz1, does it say something like processor 0 processor 1
[03:02] <usser> mrthraz1, two lines
[03:02] <mu2> sammyF: started. There is a "Start" button that I suppse will start the jackd daemon ?
[03:02] <Hew> how can I find which process is using my network connection?
[03:02] <sammyF> mu2: you should be able to start mixxx now
[03:02] <sammyF> mu2: yep
[03:03] <Barridus> RaNdY, basically follow the steps to stop gdm, edit the xorg.conf as said and see if it works on reboot.  if it does not, you'll have to look for a replacement for "DFP-0"
[03:03] <sammyF> mu2: you can then use patchage to link inpout and outputs of the various jack enabled applications together
[03:03] <Mrspry> Hi,does anyone know why this happens lately.I using Firefox and it crashes at the most.
[03:03] <mrthraz1> usser:  cpuid level	: 1
[03:03] <Mrspry> or it freezes my PC>
[03:03] <RaNdY> thanks Barridus and Jack_Sparrow. I'll try all to boot now. bbl.
[03:04] <cypher1> Mrspry: is there any specific site that is crashing it.. like flash etc ?
[03:04] <usser> mrthraz1, eh this command: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor
[03:04] <usser> mrthraz1, thats what it returns?
[03:04] <Mrspry> sure Youtube and Facebook.
[03:04] <vinicius> im trying to download via bzr, but it says i dont have any ssh keys registered on launchpad... how does it work?
[03:04] <mu2> sammyF: when I open mixx, I now see Jack as one of the options in "Sound API".
[03:04] <Barridus> ok RaNdY, good luck.  also if you search for a replacement for DFP-0, you might specify what port you are using on your card model
[03:04] <mu2> sammyF: I still get failure when I choose Jack...
[03:04] <cypher1> Mrspry: try epiphany.. its lightweight and nice.. i had the same problem with firefox and now its good with epiphany
[03:05] <mrthraz1> usser: it says prossesor 0
[03:05] <cypher1> Mrspry: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[03:05] <usser> mrthraz1, only one core then
[03:05] <Mrspry> well the same with that...I think is the flash thing again?
[03:05] <harls> i'm looking around /etc/init.d and can't find where dhclient gets started. anyone know where that might be?
[03:05] <cypher1> hmm.. which version of flash are you using ?
[03:05] <mu2> sammyF: didn't open patchage last time... will retry
[03:06] <huwenfeng> how can i detect if the ethernet cable is plugged or unplugged?
[03:06] <mrthraz1> i wonder how that happend, it must have happend in the upgrade to intreped
[03:06] <matthew> hey, I cant seem to get my nvidia card to work properly in ubuntu. it says something about 'nvidia xserver not running.' I followed the instructions, b ut they dont seem to work
[03:06] <Mrspry> I have epiphany browser and it does the same.
[03:06] <cypher1> Mrspry: try upgrading to the latest flash version if not already
[03:06] <Mrspry> well so far there is it any? are they?
[03:07] <mrthraz1> usser: any idea how i would go about getting both my cores used
[03:07] <sammyF> mu2: hmm ... can't connect mixx to the standard output somehow.. weird
[03:07] <mu2> sammyF: after opening jack and patchage, mixx doesn't startup anymore for me
[03:08] <torn> I'm having trouble installing Xubuntu on an older PC, because neither its partioner, nor Gparted (from SystemRescueCD), will detect the *new* 80 GB WD harddrive. The BIOS detects it fine, and even Ranish (the low-level partioner) detects it fine.
[03:08] <torn> What can I try, in order to get *buntu / Gparted to properly read the disk, so that I can install *buntu on it?
[03:09] <usser> mrthraz1, i wouldn't know sorry
[03:09] <torn> I tried Cable Select and Master on the jumper settings.
[03:10] <torn> Nothing seems to change the fact that *buntu will not detect the hard disk.
[03:10] <jdu> torn, that was what I was thinking the problem might be.
[03:10] <sammyF> mu2 THAT is weird
[03:10] <sammyF> mu2: I can start mixxx alright .. just can't seem to be able to get any sound from it
[03:10] <torn> jdu, but Ranish reads the disk fine, and so does the BIOS.
[03:11] <mrthraz1> usser thank anyway you  really help me out
[03:11] <cypher1> Mrspry: depends on the flash you are using
[03:11] <sammyF> mu2: you might have to restart alsa. you can do that in a terminal by typing sudo alsa force-reload
[03:11] <Mrspry> right.
[03:11] <usser> mrthraz1, no problem
[03:11] <cypher1> Mrspry: adobe flash is at 10.0.22.87
[03:11] <Mrspry> Ok.
[03:11] <huwenfeng> oh ,i just want to know when my ethernet cable is unplugged, so i can do something for that!
[03:11] <Mrspry> I got the Tar.gz file Am about to install it.
[03:11] <jdu> torn, true, it doesn't make sense.
[03:12] <Cpudan80> cypher1: that address isnt even routeable
[03:12] <torn> Any other ideas? :(
[03:12] <Cpudan80> cypher1: oh nevermind I'm an idiot
[03:12] <jdu> torn, have you tried using  parted?
[03:12] <torn> I don't know how to use it, honestly.
[03:12] <torn> I see a prompt like this:
[03:12] <torn> (parted)
[03:13] <torn> And even reading the document just confused me more.
[03:13] <matthew> hey, where do the xconfig guru-types hang out?
[03:14] <meglo> Hey does anyone know of any ppa repositories that serve the new 0.9.x versions of VideoLAN VLC for Hardy LTS? Or any way to get a hold of packages of 0.9.x releases of VLC For Hardy LTS?
[03:14] <jdu> torn, try help
[03:14] <mu2> sammyF: did alsa force-reload. after that mixx did startup.
[03:14] <jdu> torn, "print all" will show what is there
[03:14] <mu2> sammyF: however, still no audio output from mixxx.
[03:15] <mu2> sammyF: I see a lot of qt4 dependencies on mixxx and I noticed when I opened system>prefs>QT4 Settings the phonon tab was greyed out
[03:16] <torn> jdu, I'm doing a "quick pass" with DBAN before trying parted / gparted.
[03:16] <torn> It'll write 0's to every sector.
[03:16] <kramster> Hi all.  I'm a novice to Ubuntu and am trying to instal it on a 933Mhz P3 with 640Mb Ram and heaps of disk.  I got it running as dual boot with XP but have to fiddle for ages to get the GUI to come up.
[03:17] <Clem16> Hey guys how do i know if my firefox version is the 64 or the 32 bit version?
[03:17] <sammyF> mu2: if it's any consolation : I can't get any output from mixxx neither
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> torn To get live cd to show your missing hard drive this often helps..At start or install press F6 and add all_generic_ide before the "--"
[03:17] <kimws1901_> hellpo
[03:17] <kimws1901_> hello~
[03:17] <jdu> torn, another way:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1          WARNING:  do not do anyone unless you know context and what you are doing!!!!
[03:17] <eseven73> woah long time no see Jack_Sparrow :)
[03:17] <mu2> sammyF: :-). That makes it worse, I was hoping we would solve this :-). My jackd server status in "jack control" says "Stopped" always
[03:17] <torn> Jack_Sparrow, thanks. I'll also try that when I get the chance. (Waiting for the low-level format to complete.)
[03:18] <Xcell> lol kramster  crank up the bios
[03:18] <torn> jdu, what is that for? parted?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> eseven73 Thanks ..  Still recovering so I will be in and out for a few weeks
[03:18] <sammyF> mu2: hmm ... you can't start it at all?
[03:18] <jdu> torn, will write zeros to the entire disk from the livecd,  no need for dban.
[03:18] <mu2> sammyF: let me rephrase. I see 2 statuses - on top :Started Bottom: Stopped
[03:18] <torn> Ah.
[03:18] <StevenX> guys, it seems like compiz is not yet enabled.
[03:19] <StevenX> how do i enable it?
[03:19] <torn> Jack_Sparrow and jdu, thanks for the tips.
[03:19] <eseven73> Jack_Sparrow, ok in that case feel better soon! :)
[03:19] <torn> I now have new hope. :P
[03:19] <mu2> sammyF: I clicked on the start button on the top-left of ":jack audio connection kit (Default)" window
[03:19] <jdu> np
[03:19] <kimws1901_> hello~
[03:19] <Xcell> StevenX--  sys/prefs/appearance/visual effects
[03:19] <yasasvy> StevenX: compic --enable
[03:19] <torn> (The *buntu commity is 10x friendlier than the openSUSE community.) (Shhh, don't tell them I said that.)
[03:19] <mu2> sammyF: what is the yellow colored status and what is the green colored status indicate ?
[03:20] <kramster> Hi Xcell - what do you mean by "crank up the BIOS?  WHat happens when I boot is get ACPI: No DMI BIOS year and then I drop to shell.  I seem to be getting a timeout because an eror complains about /dev/disk/by-uuid/<disk-id> not existing when it is there.  Later I can get the Gnome up (5 minutes or so).
[03:20] <yasasvy> StevenX:Compiz --enable
[03:20] <StevenX> thank you yasasvy. is there a setting to make it turn up automatically?
[03:20] <eseven73> torn, no doubt, Ubuntu community is top, thats what always brings me back to Ubuntu, other distros are just as nice, but they lack the community!
[03:20] <ChotaZ> http://www.xilero.net/func2/index.php -> Please insert innerdeath into the box and click the vote links so I can get uber ingame items, kkthxbai.
[03:21] <torn> eseven73, I've come to notice that recently.
[03:21] <Xcell> kramster--  if i could look @ the machind i could help..i was half jocking.. but also serious.. cranking buss and men latency
[03:21] <lasivian> what is the escape code for !?
[03:21] <sammyF> mu2: I think one is the input and the other is the output
[03:21] <Davide> ok I'm installing windows
[03:21] <lasivian> ! that is
[03:21] <yasasvy> StevenX: system -> preferences -> sessions
[03:21] <eseven73> eeks Davide what ever for?
[03:21] <sammyF> mu2: I might be wrong though. I'm no musician ;)
[03:21] <kandinski> my sound stops working after coming back from standby. I am running Intrepid on an Intel board with a realtek ALC888 chipset
[03:21] <Barrage_Time> lool
[03:21] <Davide> can't get sound to work...
[03:22] <Davide> I'm about to lose my mind
[03:22] <kandinski> I have tried rebooting pulseaudio to no effect
[03:22] <Xcell> kramster--  is that a 54 speed drive?
[03:22] <yasasvy> StevenX: click add and then in the command field type compiz --enable
[03:22] <Davide> does anyone have an SB Audigy working with Ubuntu??
[03:22] <eseven73> I got my sounds working by doing this, set everything in sound options to ALSA, then in terminal: sudo alsa-force reload
[03:22] <uofm49426> anyone use xubuntu
[03:22] <kramster> xcell - I'm fairly sure it is - it's a 5-yera old machine
[03:23] <ohzir> Is there any way I can make x11vnc's webserver mode function in such a way that it locks my computer's screen up
[03:23] <Davide> eseven73 I have no idea how to do that I"m noob at linux
[03:23] <ohzir> from outside observers?
[03:23] <Barridus> Davide, i used to.  but i don't have the card (or computer) any more
[03:23] <ice-nine> Evening all.  This message coming from ubuntu 9.04!!
[03:23] <sammyF> mu2: the upper one is the state of jackd, the lower one is the "transport state" whatever THAT means
[03:23] <Xcell> only 5 yr old @ 900 mhz?..ill bet its around 8-9 yrs old
[03:23] <kimws1901_> today's weather is good~
[03:23] <kramster> xcell - lose a year here, another there, lol
[03:24] <Xcell> prolly pc 100 or 133= mem
[03:24] <eseven73> Davide, ok it's very easy, Prefereces> Sound, set it all to ALSA, then alt+F2 and type gnome-terminal and then in that type sudo alsa force-reload
[03:24] <harls> anyone know where dhclient is started from (at boot) in 8.04?
[03:24] <StevenX> yasasvy, thank you. it's enabled, but for some reason it is not working as previously it has.
[03:24] <Davide> ok let me try
[03:24] <sammyF> mu2: pulseaudio doesn't exactly help out neither
[03:24] <Mewtwo> Hmm, I just got an idea.
[03:24] <Davide> also may I add I am using Mythbuntu
[03:24] <mu2> sammyF: I am also not able to make sense of it... any other way of getting sound o/p from mixxx ?
[03:24] <yasasvy> StevenX: can you be more detailed
[03:24] <pahom> hi all
[03:24] <Mewtwo> Grabbing Wine and running AOL Dialer under that...
[03:24] <eseven73> that shouldn't matter Davide
[03:25] <StevenX> yasasvy, the opacity plugin is not working correctly.
[03:25] <mu2> sammyF: will using KDE desktop solve the problem ?
[03:25] <kramster> xcell - you're right.
[03:25] <mu2> sammyF:login to kde session
[03:25] <StevenX> yasasvy, I can't get it to work. Even though I have it enabled.
[03:25] <sammyF> mu2: no idea. try it out
[03:25] <Xcell> kramster--  depending on the bios.. you could speed up both the buss and mem latency.. the variances depend on the hardware
[03:26] <kandinski> Mewtwo: it sure fixed my nostalgia
[03:26] <Xcell> kramster--  but being the mem is only pc 133.. you should have @leats 1 gig
[03:26] <yasasvy> StevenX: I am sry but try using replace instead of enable
[03:27] <kramster> xcell - I thought about trying Xubuntu but I got even more errors.
[03:27] <StevenX> compiz --replace?
[03:27] <yasasvy> yup
[03:27] <Davide> eseven73 not sure where I find "preferences" I'm looking
[03:27] <Davide> but cant find it
[03:27] <Xcell> ya kramster  its a pain.. youll get it..
[03:27] <eseven73> Davide, system >preferences > sound
[03:27] <mu2> sammyF: thanks,
[03:28] <torn> Davide, from the menu I think it's System then Preferences?
[03:28] <kramster> xcell - I'll have a tweak in the BIOS, but firstly do you think I should aim for Xubuntu instead?
[03:28] <Xcell> dont feel bad kramster  i have to load a 800mhz dell tomorrow for a customer.. joy.
[03:29] <botux> i cant see my samba shares on my windows any ideas why
[03:29] <Xcell> kramster--  U could give it a try.. but the very last thing you need to install is any eye candy.. get the machine running first
[03:29] <Davide> under system I have: Add/Remove, Authorizations, Hardware Drivers, Hardware Testing, Mythbuntu Control centre, Mythbuntu Log Grabber, MythTV Backend Setup, Network TOols, Nvidia X server settings, services, shared folders, software sources, synaptic package manager, time and date, update manager, users and groups
[03:29] <Zopiac> how do I kill an application that I don't know the name of? (using icewm, so kill applet in the gnome-panel isn't applicable)
[03:29] <Davide> and tha's it
[03:30] <Davide> eseven73
[03:30] <kramster> Xcell - I can actualy get Gnome running after a lot of fiddling (not knowing what I'm doing - CTRL keys whatever - if I fiddle for 10 minutes it comes up).  WHen Gnome does come up everything runs nicely - I even got my Netgear wifi card working.
[03:30] <yasasvy> StevenX: did you try that?
[03:30] <eseven73> look in Mystbuntu control centre
[03:30] <eseven73> im not familiar with mythbuntu, but thats just a guess davide
[03:31] <Xcell> kramster--  just remember.. its not a fast machine.. waiting for pgms to respond takes patients
[03:31] <kramster> Xcell - I'll go and play now - thanks for your help.
[03:31] <Xcell> any time
[03:31] <StevenX> yasasvy, did not work.
[03:32] <StevenX> yasasvy, yes
[03:32] <Davide> eseven73 I'm adding "ubuntu Desktop" maybe I'll have the option once I do that
[03:33] <usser> Zopiac, xkill
[03:33] <Zopiac> usser: thanks
[03:33] <Xcell> garlic toast?
[03:33] <Davide> thank you for the help
[03:33] <usser> why yes please
[03:33] <Davide> btw
[03:33] <space_cadet> hey guys...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/148061/   i want my synaptics to be able to function as it does in windows.
[03:33] <space_cadet> it says it has 12 buttons
[03:34] <eseven73> Davide, is there a reason you use Mythbuntu over Ubuntu?
[03:34] <space_cadet> and there's a lot of parameters.
[03:34] <Davide> well I am trying to setup a DVR
[03:34] <Barridus> you can install mythtv in ubuntu
[03:34] <Davide> eseven73 that's the only reason it is hooked up to my TV
[03:34] <space_cadet> plus currently it's backlight is on.  I want to know how to configure that as well.
[03:35] <yasasvy> StevenX: Is this the first time you using compiz?
[03:35] <StevenX> yasasvy, no. I've set it up before.
[03:35] <Kirill> Hey guys I'm FED UP with Vista on my Eee PC. I think I'm at the right place
[03:35] <Davide> Barridus I tried that in the past a long time ago and I went through a lot of pain to no avail... I figured I'd give it another shot, and had hoped that Mythbuntu might be easier, more tailored to do what I needed...
[03:35] <eseven73> Davide, ok well again I know next to nothing about mythbuntu really, so Im not sure how much further I could help at this point, if my above "Fix" doesnt work for you
[03:35] <Xcell> Kirill--  U sure are.
[03:36] <Davide> well I've burned an ubuntu cd I can go ahead and install that instead
[03:36] <Davide> thinking about it
[03:36] <StevenX> yasasvy, somehow, it is working now.
[03:36] <StevenX> thank you very much.
[03:36] <Davide> I'm guessing if I download the ubuntu desktop it should be the same thing?
[03:36] <losher> I was disappointed with Mythbuntu last time I tried it. Too many things didn't seem to work. I've had good luck installing mythtv over regular Ubuntu
[03:36] <eseven73> my method of fixing sound, works 99% of the time for those with just plain Ubuntu 8.10
[03:36] <space_cadet> anyone familiar with synaptics??
[03:36] <yasasvy> StevenX, ok
[03:36] <Davide> all right eseven73 I will install ubuntu if this doesnt work
[03:36] <Davide> I was planning to try it anyway :D
[03:36] <eseven73> Davide, I would just get regular Ubuntu, and stick some DVR functions in it
[03:36] <Kirill> Xcell -> thanks :) Well here are my concerns, I must have Outlook/Office 2007/Adobe Reader/BlackBerry Support and a address book management software used by my company. Can I run all that in Wine?
[03:37] <eseven73> sounds like a plan :)
[03:37] <eseven73> Davide, that way the gurus in here could help you 100%
[03:37] <Xcell> Kirill--  someone here would know..
[03:37] <Davide> ok
[03:37] <Davide> :D
[03:37] <Barridus> Davide, i haven't worked with mythbuntu either (or mythtv for that matter, yet), but i've found it fairly easy to swap from one 'buntu to another (Xubuntu to Ubunu to Kubuntu to a completely different windows manager package and all back again)
[03:37] <Davide> I hope so I don't want to install windows!!
[03:38] <eseven73> yeah don't do that, Microsoft has enough customers :P
[03:38] <Xcell> lol
[03:38] <Xcell>  Please deposit all your Microsoft products to your nearest local green box trash receptacle and enjoy real computing with Ubuntu/Linux.
[03:38] <Xcell> j/k
[03:39] <Kirill> Wine + BlackBerry anyone? 0.o
[03:39] <uofm49426> ok no one talking in xubuntu hope someone here has
[03:39] <losher> It's heresy, but I found the easiest myth install was Knoppmyth. Excellent hardware detection. Up within an hour...
[03:39] <Barridus> Xcell, that was a joke?  seemed relevant and valid advice XD
[03:39] <yasasvy> StevenX: do u have compiz settings manager installed?
[03:39] <Xcell> lol
[03:39] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I still have to keep MS dual booted until game manufacturers make linux versions
[03:39] <StevenX> yasasvy, yes.
[03:39] <brucelee> oh yeah, theres no blackberry support for linux yet right?
[03:39] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  in time
[03:39] <yasasvy> StevenX: and are other plugins working?
[03:39] <ice-nine> mythbuntu worked great for me.  8.04 is the version I've been running for quite some time now.
[03:39] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I can't wait =P
[03:39] <ice-nine> Davide, what is the problem you are having?
[03:40] <StevenX> yasasvy,
[03:40] <StevenX> yes
[03:40] <StevenX> they are all working now. thank you very much.
[03:40] <Admin__> hey guys I have a question a friend got a corrupted bios on his windows system and I wanted to know if I can boot into a linux live cd?
[03:40] <Barridus> ice-nine, yeah that's a valid reminder of something i learned a while back.  if a ubuntu install just isn't working out, try 8.04 hardy
[03:40] <Im_Toast> Admin_: If the BIOS is corrupted, your screwed
[03:40] <yasasvy> StevenX: njoy!
[03:41] <StevenX> ty!
[03:41] <Im_Toast> Admin_: BIOS is what boots your operating system
[03:41] <uofm49426> i apt get installed xubuntu over ubuntu because i like it better but my splash screen didnt get replaced with xubuntus splash its just a text base boot
[03:41] <Barridus> Admin__, nope, sorry.  he's boned
[03:41] <Im_Toast> Admin_: BIOS is with your motherboard, not your software
[03:41] <Admin__> Im_Toast: Its not completely fried cause its going into BootBlock
[03:41] <Xcell> asus crash free bios ftw.
[03:41] <Admin__> His is Asus ;)
[03:41] <Admin__> He got chernobal
[03:41] <Im_Toast> I want one of those new mobos that have a backup BIOS if you fuck up your main one
[03:41] <Barridus> BIOS loads before the "real" OS.  if you can't get past BIOS, you can't run the "real" OS no matter what it is
[03:42] <Kirill> Ok, no blackberry... how about Outlook + Wine?
[03:42] <uofm49426> is there a why to fix this in package manager or do i need to do it manually
[03:42] <Barridus> Kirill, forget outlook with wine XD
[03:42] <Kirill> Barridus -> Jesus, that didn't sound good :|
[03:42] <Admin__> I can boot into flash bios I jus cant figure out how to make a boot disc to flash the bios
[03:43] <Davide> eseven73 I didnt' say I was going to "purchase" Windows...
[03:43] <tufte> i have a new headset (usb) plugged in -- how do i direct all audio to my headset (not pc speakers)
[03:43] <Admin__> When I start it searched for a CD
[03:43] <eseven73> hehe, roger that
[03:43] <Im_Toast> Admin_: Then you need to get the newest BIOS from the Motherboard manufacturer
[03:43] <Barridus> Kirill, yeah it's not.  i've spent hours with it at work
[03:43] <Admin__> Got it
[03:43] <Davide> ice-nine I can't get sound to work on Linux..
[03:43] <Admin__> Jus dono wat to do with it
[03:43] <wat> hi
[03:43] <Im_Toast> Do you have a floppy drive?
[03:43] <Xcell> Admin__--  you cant get to bios at all...to allocate another (flash) drive?
[03:43] <ice-nine> Davide, you're using mythbuntu?  Which version?
[03:43] <hmsims> anyone familiar with installing nessus on b3 on a eee pc 701?
[03:44] <Admin__> I can get to recovery portion of my bios tat was not corrupted when I boot it looks for a CD I do not have a floppy
[03:44] <Xcell> oh
[03:44] <Im_Toast> I'm not sure about flashing the bios from a cd
[03:45] <Im_Toast> I've only done it one time lol from a floppy
[03:45] <Davide> ok screw it time for ubuntu.. eseven73
[03:45] <Admin__> Lol dang howd you do it cant be to diff
[03:45] <Kirill_> Barriudus -> Sigh.... I guess Ubuntu is not the answer then... Maybe Mac OS X lol
[03:45] <tufte> i am curious how to change the audio output in general
[03:45] <Im_Toast> Admin_: Google it, I'm sure you can find a manual
[03:45] <Xcell> Ademan--  when you boot with flash drive already installed .. it does not see it?
[03:45] <Xcell> admin...sry
[03:45] <Admin__> I cant boot from flash drive
[03:45] <Davide> Any suggestions I have 2 HDs one 80gb one I was gonna make my OS drive, the other 120gb was gonna make it my media/storage drive  I have no idea what the proper way to partition etc would be
[03:45] <Xcell> wow
[03:46] <eseven73> Davide, good choice!
[03:46] <Admin__> If I have a CD insterted It detects and trys to boot
[03:46] <ericmanders> is there a way to install via a network?
[03:46] <Im_Toast> See
[03:46] <space_cadet> guys.
[03:46] <Barridus> Admin__, not an ubuntu problem... i'd look for asus bios recovery help somewhere.
[03:46] <eseven73> Davide, if you plan on dual booting, put windows on first
[03:46] <space_cadet> hey guys...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/148061/   i want my synaptics to be able to function as it does in windows.
[03:46] <Scunizi> !install | ericmanders
[03:46] <Xcell> Admin__-- even when you hit esc..
[03:46] <Admin__> U guys only smart people I know lol
[03:46] <Davide> should I put windows?
[03:46] <ice-nine> Davide, I'm running 8.04 and had to go into the mythtv setup and turn up the levels for audio...
[03:46] <tufte> audio settings? is this too simple a question for this group
[03:46] <gopogo> ubuntu jaunty jackass is  not detecting windows during installation
[03:47] <gopogo> it says no windows instaled
[03:47] <eseven73> well you could just put windows in a virtual machine
[03:47] <eseven73> !virtualbox | Davide
[03:47] <Im_Toast> Xcell: He might should also try f12, that's what it is on my mobo
[03:47] <Davide> I dont need windows if I can get it to work
[03:47] <Scunizi> gopogo: for jaunty help /join #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  exactly
[03:47] <eseven73> ok
[03:47] <Admin__> Ok let me explain everything so its clear lol
[03:47] <ddoggx> does anyone have DIABLO working under WINE????
[03:47] <Davide> I got windows on my regular comp..
[03:47] <eseven73> ah
[03:47] <eseven73> ok
[03:47] <Davide> where I play all my games
[03:47] <Davide> :D
[03:47] <space_cadet> hey guys...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/148061/   i want my synaptics to be able to function as it does in windows.
[03:48] <ice-nine> Davide, have you tried typing "alsamixer" into a terminal?
[03:48] <yasasvy> space_cadet: do u mean your touchpad?
[03:48] <ddoggx> i tryed to do it but somewhere i made a mistake
[03:48] <space_cadet> yep
[03:48] <kimws1901_> hi~
[03:48] <Davide> ice-nine yes typed alsamixer turned everything up, unmuted anything that was muted by pressing "M"
[03:48] <Davide> did not help
[03:48] <ddoggx> exception: 0xc0000005
[03:48] <ddoggx> code address: 0xc7810789
[03:48] <ddoggx> read access violation at 0xc7810789
[03:48] <space_cadet> yasasvy, yes.
[03:49] <ice-nine> Davide, stupid question, but have you tried plugging your speakers/headphones into different audio out plugins on your mobo/soundcard?
[03:49] <Admin__> Ok Bios does not boot, theres a section in his bios called bootblock that is there in case bios fries, its purpose is to allow to reflash bios if bios dead, I have newest version of bios, I have uniflash and awdflash and a cd drive, but I do not know how to flash
[03:49] <Davide> hey can I setup ubuntu on the 80GB drive, and leave the other 120GB drive alone... will ubuntu afterwards see that 120GB drive if I don't format it?
[03:49] <Xcell> oh
[03:49] <yasasvy> space_cadet: what is wrong with ur current settings?
[03:49] <kb1hzm> hello?
[03:49] <Davide> ice-nine yes as a matter of fact I did
[03:50] <space_cadet> yasasvy, well... in windows when i press the upper right corner, it switches modes.
[03:50] <michael> whats the channel for jaunty?
[03:50] <space_cadet> yasasvy, in linux, it acts like i scrolled up.
[03:50] <Barridus> !jaunty | michael
[03:50] <Xcell> michael--  #ubuntu+1
[03:50] <Davide> ice-nine I thoguht it could have been the cable, so I even plugged it into my MP3 player... and the sound came through my tv fine
[03:50] <michael> Xcell, thanks
[03:50] <Xcell> k
[03:51] <space_cadet> er... yasasvy scratch that, in linux it acts like i depressed my middle mouse button.
[03:51] <yasasvy> space_cadet: well that is the default setup, btw what laptop are you using?
[03:51] <kb1hzm> hello just got a quick question for anyone
[03:51] <Chowder> So compiz won't work with my computer now because my gfx card reached a "blacklist". However, its ok. I want to install e17. What I had in mind was using Gnome with e17 and using thunar instead of nautilus by default. Is this possible?
[03:51] <Admin__> It does see the CD once there is a CD I attempted to make a Windows Boot disc but got error once I booted that is why I am asking if I can boot into ubuntu
[03:51] <space_cadet> yasasvy, asus m70Vm-x1
[03:51] <Davide> ice-nine I guess there is a possibility that it could be the sound card itself, but I have no way of testing it... unless I install windows... all I know is that I had windows on this comp several months ago, and at that time the sound worked fine with this sound card
[03:51] <Barridus> Davide, what ver of mythbuntu are you using
[03:51] <Davide> 8.10 Barridus
[03:51] <Xcell> Admin__--  if bios isnt working..id say no.
[03:52] <Barridus> Davide, tried hardy or jaunty?
[03:52] <Xcell> Admin__--  try using the live cd and see if it boots
[03:52] <Davide> Barridus I dont know what that is..
[03:52] <ice-nine> Barridus, is 8.10 using PulseAudio?
[03:52] <space_cadet> yasasvy, also, I want to be able to control the backlight... but I don't see that option in synclient
[03:52] <ShinyHat> i just installed nvidia 180 drivers and now after the ubuntu progress bar at startup i see a blank screen- if i ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7 everything operates normally. this an easy fix?
[03:52] <Davide> I apologize guys I'm very new to this
[03:53] <Barridus> Davide, 8.04 hardy, 9.04 (beta) jaunty
[03:53] <Davide> but eager to learn!
[03:53] <Davide> ah
[03:53] <Davide> no haven't tried it... should I?
[03:53] <Davide> instead of ubuntu 8.10?
[03:53] <Barridus> ice-nine, i don't know.  i got angry with 8.10 and went back to 8.04
[03:53] <eseven73> Jaunty is coming out on the 23rd too :)
[03:53] <ice-nine> I've had some strange problems with PulseAudio, granted in Fedora and Opensuse, but have not tried 8.10.
[03:54] <linos> I have ubuntu edgy eft on one of my systems.  Is it to late to perform an update.  I am having fetch issues
[03:54] <Barridus> ice-nine, i was wondering about pulseaudio myself, but i wasn't sure how to bring that up.  maybe we're on to something
[03:54] <ice-nine> 9.04 seems to work quite well so far.
[03:54] <eseven73> yea
[03:54] <Barridus> ice-nine, same.
[03:54] <Barridus> as did hardy
[03:54] <Davide> should I try mythbuntu 9.04?
[03:54] <eseven73> ive been running it for like 3 weeks ice-nine I like it
[03:54] <Barridus> intrepid was a mess for me.
[03:54] <ice-nine> Davide, there is a 9.04 mythbunty
[03:54] <Xcell> lol..im still on 7.10 = flawless.. j/k
[03:54] <Admin__> Ok thanks guys and Davide dont worry you'll get hang of it I was here a week before I could do everything I wanted
[03:54] <Admin__> Wait till you compile source
[03:55] <ice-nine> eseven73.  It's been about a week and a half for me, ant not looking back.  :)
[03:55] <Davide> :D
[03:55] <Davide> ok I'll try 9.04
[03:55] <Davide> you think I should get mythbuntu or Ubuntu with mythtv?
[03:55] <eseven73> ice-nine, yeah pretty much got everything except compiz working in it
[03:55] <Barridus> yeah there's just a "hump".  once you're over it and have the context to understand what to look for and more importantly what to ask, you'll be a whiz at linux overnight
[03:55] <kb1hzm> <---linux noob here also Davide
[03:55] <ice-nine> Davide, Or like Barridus recommends, 8.04...
[03:55] <Xcell> Ubuntu with mythtv
[03:56] <Barridus> Davide, yeah i say try hardy 8.04 first.  it was literally the linux that made me love linux
[03:56] <ShinyHat> i just installed nvidia 180 drivers and now after the ubuntu progress bar at startup i see a blank screen- if i ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7 everything operates normally. anyone have any advice?
[03:56] <Davide> if I get 8.04... will I be able to upgarde to 9.04? or do I have to reinstall?
[03:56] <Barridus> it's LTS (long term support) so most things are stable and well documented
[03:56] <java> hi there is there any way i can do google video chat in ubuntu
[03:56] <Xcell> I have learned more in linux than i ever did in windoze.
[03:57] <DG19075> fell for Ubuntu with 7.04, and it's all I run now. :)
[03:57] <ice-nine> eseven73, what type of gfx card?   Nvidia is working well for me with compiz
[03:57] <{bosco}> ls
[03:57] <yasasvy> space_cadet: have you edited your xorg.cong file?
[03:57] <space_cadet> nope
[03:57] <eseven73> Nvidia 5200, it worked great in 8.10, and 8.04
[03:57] <multiverse> Hi all, what Ubuntu based Twitter client is best?
[03:57] <mrthraz1> hey guys, i'm really having trouble finding a solution on the ubuntu web forums, my problem is my dv 9000 wont use both cores, how can i fix this?
[03:57] <Barridus> Davide, i belive distro upgrades are done one version at a time unless i'm incorrect.  you'll have to step to 8.10 then 9.04 i think.  but if hardy works for you, why not keep it?  if it ain't broke don't fix it, that's the linux way
[03:58] <java> hey can anybody tell me how to do video chat in linux
[03:58] <eseven73> ice-nine, it says im using the nvidia 173 driver, but, when I try to enable effects, it says some errors
[03:58] <Pici> !jaunty
[03:58] <eseven73> but thats fine, Im not really into effects anyways ice-nine :)
[03:58] <ice-nine> Davide, I'd agree with Barridus.  I've been running 8.04 since april of last year with nary a problem.
[03:58] <Davide> ok downloading 8.04.2
[03:58] <Davide> we so slow can I get a torrent?
[03:58] <ice-nine> eseven73, are you able to run nvidia-settings?
[03:59] <Barridus> ice-nine, i would be too if it wasn't for netbook remix being built in and better implimented in jaunty (i'm on a netbook)
[03:59] <eseven73> ill check ice-nine one sec
[03:59] <DG19075> running 8.10 here problem free
[03:59] <eseven73> ice-nine, yep, nvidia-settings work
[03:59] <Barridus> 8.10 ran like ass on this netbook
[03:59] <rpalmer> i literally just reinstalled ubuntu, the first thing i did is went to synaptic - searched (not quick searched because nvidia-180 DOES NOT SHOW UP THAT WAY) found nvidia-180, installed it, and it doesn't show up in hardware drivers -WHAT IS GOING ON
[03:59] <mrthraz1> hey guys, i'm really having trouble finding a solution on the ubuntu web forums, my problem is my dv 9000 wont use both cores, how can i fix this?
[03:59] <ice-nine> eseven73, try clicking on the OpenGL/GLX Information entry.
[04:00] <Barridus> and i could not resolve why that was
[04:00] <ice-nine> eseven73, that used to crash for me all the time if the nvidia driver wasn't loaded properly.
[04:00] <Q_Continuum> I'm curious, with the "Create a USB Startup Disk" is there a way to set up multiple boot options (like say an i386 and an x64 on the same disk)?
[04:00] <multiverse> Which Twitter client should I use?
[04:00] <Xcell> same here Barridus
[04:00] <eseven73> ice-nine, it shows the settings
[04:00] <eseven73> Direct rendering: Yes
[04:01] <phobiac> Q_Continuum: Not that I know of.
[04:01] <Barridus> i'm beginning to suspect ubuntu releases are like star trek movies.  only try every other one XD
[04:01] <Xcell> lol
[04:01] <etzerd> Hello all
[04:01] <ericmanders> is there an easy way to change ubuntu home edition to the server edition?
[04:01] <ice-nine> eseven73, are you able to run glxgears?
[04:01] <eseven73> lol
[04:01] <rpalmer> i dont mean to type in caps, i'm really frustrated, ive been working on this for a week straight and i keep running into weird problems...
[04:01] <Q_Continuum> Barridus: lol, I don't upgrade this laptop right away - I give it a shot on a spare box.
[04:01] <eseven73> ice-nine, yep :D
[04:01] <malliaros> hello
[04:01] <ice-nine> eseven73, past my expertise then.  Sorry..
[04:01] <Barridus> Q_Continuum, i do that now, also.  i've learned a few lessons XD
[04:02] <phobiac> Q_Continuum: Although, you could do something like that by partitioning the disk and configuring the bootloader manually.
[04:02] <etzerd> is there any bug on the ubuntu 9.04 beta?
[04:02] <Q_Continuum> Yeah, 8.04 gave me some headaches....that 8.10 cured.
[04:02] <noodlesgc> !jaunty | etzerd
[04:02] <eseven73> ice-nine, it's cool, like I said im not really big into effects anyways :)
[04:02] <malliaros> anybody here can help me with an error i get trying to make my new kernel?
[04:02] <malliaros> :D
[04:02] <Barridus> 8,04 had a few settings i had to edit, but it was all well documented copypasta i could paste into terminal.
[04:02] <etzerd> Thanks
[04:02] <yasasvy> space_cadet: follow this link.. this should solve your probs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad/Hardy?highlight=((SynapticsTouchpad))
[04:03] <Barridus> whereas 8.10 had no options for fixes really, and it ran pretty sluggishly (even without compiz)
[04:03] <malliaros> i get this *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.
[04:03] <etzerd> the reason that I asked is because I installed it in my computer and it sees to work fine.
[04:03] <multiverse> Which Twitter client should I use?
[04:03] <Q_Continuum> 8.04 would after some random uptime, not let me launch new apps, and sound would break until I rebooted.
[04:03] <space_cadet> yasasvy, been there looked at it... not as configurable as i wish, but i'm deciding right now some other things
[04:03] <Davide> I'm installing 8.10 while I wait..
[04:03] <space_cadet> thanks though  yasasvy
[04:03] <Davide> wait for download
[04:03] <Davide> just to see...
[04:04] <cchaos> Hello
[04:04] <yasasvy> space_cadet: sorry couldnt help you.
[04:04] <mrthraz1> hey guys, i'm really having trouble finding a solution on the ubuntu web forums, my problem is my dv 9000 wont use both cores, how can i fix this?
[04:05] <Barridus> Davide, one reason why versions are different in how they work out of box is that they all use different kernel versions.  and drivers tie into the kernel, so sometimes hardware will be wonky in one kernel than another and require more or less workarounds
[04:05] <{bosco}> hi i  am going to reinstall windows on my computer for testing but i want to dual boot the last time i installed windows with linux the MBR overided grub how do i set it to dual boot???????
[04:05] <{bosco}> i use ubuntu
[04:05] <hanasaki> what is a good program to test my video camera with?
[04:05] <{bosco}> cheese
[04:05] <mrthraz1> cheese
[04:05] <malliaros> someone knows what this means:    *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.
[04:05] <malliaros> ?
[04:05] <ivantis> Is there a way to backup everything from desktop edition and put it on an ubuntu server? I mean like programs and files and such
[04:05] <edgex-_> {bosco}, you need to install windows on another partition, then reinstall grub to the MBR using an ubuntu livecd
[04:06] <mrthraz1> oh you got there first
[04:06] <Barridus> Davide, since you're using a "legacy" soundcard, you may find it better supported in an older kernel (sometimes old stuff is broken in newer kernels but it's a low priority fix since the old kernels can be used)
[04:06] <ivantis> I mean a seperate server
[04:06] <mrthraz1> hey guys, i'm really having trouble finding a solution on the ubuntu web forums, my problem is my dv 9000 wont use both cores, how can i fix this?
[04:06] <Royall> Computer Janitor is only on jaunty? :<
[04:06] <{bosco}> edgex-_, someone told me to just install windows first
[04:06] <Royall> I wants it for intrpeid
[04:06] <edgex-_> {bosco}, it's easier but installing grub again isnt hard
[04:06] <etzerd> can anyone tell how to add more desktop to ubuntu?
[04:06] <edgex-_> {bosco}, it's like one command from a livecd
[04:06] <Davide> Barridus thanks that makes sense... the audigy is very old...
[04:07] <{bosco}> edgex-_, is there a post to were i can look at on how to do that
[04:07] <etzerd> I mean more desktop wallpaper.
[04:08] <ice-nine> etzerd, just copy some images to your harddrive, and browse to that directory when setting background images.
[04:08] <bob_> any thoughts on the best program fro home recording studio?
[04:08] <Davide> all I know about linux is what I've learned using my Nokia N800... so not much
[04:08] <ice-nine> bob_, have you heard of ardour?
[04:08] <bob_> no
[04:09] <ice-nine> bob_, ardour.org
[04:09] <Davide> does anyone here have a nice DVR/PVR system setup with mythtv??
[04:09] <bob_> thanks I'll check that out
[04:09] <Davide> or mythbuntu?
[04:09] <ice-nine> I've used ardour for some amateurish recording of my guitar.  Worked quite well.
[04:09] <TheShahFactor> what is the correct syntax for "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= folder1 folder2 "
[04:09] <bob_> amateur I am
[04:09] <bob_> thanks much
[04:10] <Wicked> how do i switch desktop windows? i dont have anything on my panel to switch
[04:10] <ice-nine> Davide,  mythbuntu 8.04 has been running in my living room for the past year and a half with no problems at all.
[04:10] <freeda> hi all dumb question but i want to make a a shortcut for the command: ssh -C host.xyz -p 999 -l jimbo on my desktop. i have managed to do it. i get the the login page and enter the pass but it doesn't open a shell. anyone know how to do that?
[04:10] <Wicked> is there a key combination to switch from desktop1 to desktop2 and vice versa
[04:10] <Xcell> Wicked--  right click pannel and click add to.. then search for desk top switcher
[04:10] <Wicked> theres nowere to click on my panel. its all open windows
[04:10] <Wicked> or applets
[04:11] <Davide> ice-nine was it a pain to configure mythbuntu 8.04?
[04:11] <ChrisULM> how stable is jaunty atm?
[04:11] <Barridus> Davide, i'm fairly certain the issue is soley with your audigy being supported correctly by the kernel
[04:11] <Davide> ok
[04:11] <Barridus> independent of what 'buntu you are on
[04:12] <Davide> so to fix that I just need to go to an older version? meaning there's little chance the 8.10 will work?
[04:12] <mrthraz1> hey guys, i'm really having trouble finding a solution on the ubuntu web forums, my problem is my dv 9000 wont use both cores, how can i fix this?
[04:12] <Wicked> hmm i dont even see a desktop switcher Xcell
[04:12] <Barridus> i'd try hardy, and possibly jaunty if you're in a particularly adventurous mood (it's beta, so YMMV)
[04:12] <cchaos> {bosco}: GRUB help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-68342fc2e30d51fa0aa6f5bf16c911dd8d3663c6
[04:12] <ice-nine> Davide, the linux part was pretty straight forward, and the only thing I got caught up in the mythtv configuration was the type of tuner card I had installed, but once that was taken care of It was quite easy.  I did have to modify my remote control configuration file to get extended functionality.
[04:13] <Barridus> Davide, well some 8.10 stuff is "backported".  i don't know what exactly as i don't use myth
[04:13] <Barridus> so it's like having a more compatable 8.10 in some cases
[04:13] <Clem16> Thanks guys, just incase you were wondering why firefox was crashing on my attempts to load java, I found the solution / what i did wrong.. create a symbolic link to the plugin in the java directory do not copy it over... thats what was causing it to foul up.
[04:13] <Davide> ok
[04:13] <Barridus> linux is all modular, that's the true beauty of it
[04:14] <Davide> ice-nine by installing mythbuntu can you still add all the packages to get it to be like regular ubuntu?
[04:14] <ice-nine> Davide, have you tried oss instead of Alsa?
[04:14] <Davide> ice-nine I haven't I was looking at the instructions someone posted to get that on, but it was very intimidating...
[04:14] <GunslingerFyre> hey all
[04:14] <cchaos> sex: GRUB help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-68342fc2e30d51fa0aa6f5bf16c911dd8d3663c6
[04:15] <Davide> I Don't know if I could do it
[04:15] <kimws1901_> hello~
[04:15] <Barridus> does a mythbuntu-desktop metapackage exist?  *checks*
[04:15] <Scunizi> ice-nine: what size box did you use.. I"m thinking of building myth on a mini-itx platform
[04:15] <blowjob> anyone know of a website on how to dual boot windows and ubuntu with 9.10 installing grub???
[04:15]  * GunslingerFyre finds a seat
[04:16]  * Scunizi heard the music for ring-a-round the rosy stop.. GunslingerFyre won
[04:16] <GunslingerFyre> I won?
[04:16] <GunslingerFyre> what did I win?
[04:16] <GunslingerFyre> free ubuntu for life?
[04:16] <ice-nine> Davide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=787082   --- this link talks about unchecking an "analog/digital Output Jack" checkbox in alsamixer
[04:16] <Xcell> Wicked--  its called work space switcher
[04:16] <Scunizi> GunslingerFyre: the chair
[04:16] <Styles____> Hey guys
[04:16] <GunslingerFyre> cool.  I'll be taking it with me when I go.
[04:16] <Scunizi> :)
[04:17] <Styles____> I just installed Ubuntu tonight, and it's on my toshiba but when I start it up for the first time it flipps out and i can't see anything it's like all stripping
[04:17] <GunslingerFyre> stripping?
[04:17] <Barridus> Davide, there is a package in ubuntu repos mythbyntu-desktop.  this is sort of the blind leading the blind here (i don't have mythbuntu and you don't have ubuntu) but it installs 227 packages.
[04:17] <GunslingerFyre> like text scrolling by fast?  or weird colors and stuff?
[04:17] <Styles____> haha sry I'm txting a Girl and it's kinda on my mind LOL
[04:17] <Styles____> weird colors like I can't see anythinhg
[04:17] <GunslingerFyre> :/
[04:17] <Styles____> I just knda see a big outline of what a box would be
[04:17] <Barridus> what windows manager and toolkit does mythbuntu use?  gnome/gtk?
[04:18] <ice-nine> Scunizi, I used an antec nsk2400 case..   The wife wanted it to more or less blend in with the rest of the living room or there would be no way she'd allow a computer in the living room  LoL
[04:18] <GunslingerFyre> what version did you install styles?
[04:18] <Styles____> 8.04?
[04:18] <DrX> help -- focus is stuck inside a VMWare VM and I can't get out -- keyboard seems to be locked out, mouse is working, any ideas?
[04:18] <java> can some body tell me how to install the software from the channel
[04:18] <Scunizi> ice-nine: yea. same here.. but the smaller I can make it the better.. I'd go with a fanless setup if possible but that I know won't happen
[04:18] <GunslingerFyre> pm, styles?
[04:19] <Styles____> kk GunslingerFyre
[04:19] <Davide> Barridus so I guess from ubuntu I could install that package and get mythbuntu?
[04:19] <Davide> :D
[04:19] <java> what is software channel mean??
[04:20] <URoRRoRRR> Anyone know if my computer could be causing an ozone/static smell that's filling my room?
[04:20] <ice-nine> Scunizi, hehe.  I found an old sempron mobile processor and found that I don't need a fan on the heatsink (cheap aftermarket one) and a couple of Noctua fans running at low speed, All I hear is the harddrive now...
[04:20] <Barridus> Davide, my guess would be that.  but i can't test.  i've installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop.  it's easy to do to swap into a different variant
[04:20] <DG19075> Davide: apt-get install mythbuntu
[04:20] <Xcell> URoRRoRRR--  lol..it is a high voltage smell?
[04:20] <Barridus> i'm trying to detemine what windows manager and toolkit mythbuntu uses, that would be important to know before you try
[04:20] <Scunizi> ice-nine: ive got an intel E8400 looking for a home.. :)
[04:21] <URoRRoRRR> Xcell: yeah, kinda like lightning
[04:21] <Xcell> lol check your cpu usage = top
[04:21] <Davide> Barridus I don't know that information.. but DG19075 says apt-get
[04:21] <Xcell> install htop.. much better too
[04:22] <ice-nine> Barridus, 8.04 mythbuntu uses XFCE4 as a window manager.  I'm not sure if it's GTK or not.
[04:22] <Davide> Installation is complete restarting
[04:22] <Barridus> ice-nine, it appears it is (according to wikipedia)
[04:22] <ericmanders> is there a way to reset all the ubuntu settings to the original defaults?
[04:22] <mneptok> eep opp ork uh huh
[04:22] <randal> how do you use a icon theme
[04:23] <ice-nine> Cross your fingers Davide.  hope to hear those drums...
[04:23] <Barridus> ice-nine, and it matches my vague recollection of xubuntu hardy
[04:23] <phobiac> ericmanders: Deleting the config files in your /home directory, I think.
[04:23] <Davide> I"m crossing!
[04:23] <ericmanders> i will give it a try
[04:24] <Barridus> ice-nine, i seem to remember it was gtk too.  (i can't stand more than one toolkit loaded so i would have noticed i think)
[04:24] <randal> how do you use a icon theme
[04:24] <mneptok> ericmanders: what settings? systemn wide settings like network interface information or user level settings like file save locations?
[04:24] <Davide> :( guess not
[04:24] <Davide> that woudl have been way too easy!
[04:24] <Barridus> Davide, i missed what you're installing cuz i was alt tabbing around my old bookmarks. installed what?  hardy?
[04:25] <Barridus> or the mythbuntu-desktop
[04:25] <Davide> I just installed 8.10 cause 8.04 is still dling
[04:25] <phobiac> randal: Go to system>preferences>appearance to install icon themes.
[04:25] <Davide> just ubuntu
[04:25] <Davide> regular 8.10
[04:25] <kimws1901_> hello~
[04:25] <ericmanders> well somehow all of my file permissions gat messed up and I wanted to be able to reset them all
[04:25] <GunslingerFyre> 9.04 ftw!
[04:25] <Barridus> ok that's not surprising (if my kernel/audigy autoconfigure bug notion is correct)
[04:25] <Xcell> work good GunslingerFyre ?
[04:25]  * GunslingerFyre nods
[04:25] <GunslingerFyre> I like it a LOT
[04:25] <Xcell> cool
[04:26] <GunslingerFyre> just snappier overall
[04:26] <Barridus> which it may not be, obviously.  but i have some confidence in the theory
[04:26] <ice-nine> Davide, Hope you have more luck with 8.04
[04:26] <phobiac> ericmanders: Oh, that's different. You'd either have to manually change them all back or do a re install.
[04:26] <Xcell> I might pull out another drive and give it a test run this weekend
[04:26] <Davide> Barridus so now I'm in the sound preferences.. if I select ALSA and click on test I should hear sound right?
[04:26] <Davide> if it works?
[04:26] <ericmanders> ok thats what I thought thanks for the help.
[04:26] <GunslingerFyre> you should.  for beta, it's very nice
[04:26] <Barridus> yeah it's like a little whoooooooooooooo sound
[04:27] <bluenzo> If i install windows 7 on another physical HDD, will that mess up my current grub? If so, can i use super grub to easily fix it?
[04:27] <GunslingerFyre> bit of a flash player bug with x64 version, but got that sorted
[04:27] <Barridus> what does pulseaudio do
[04:27] <Scunizi> phobiac: ericmanders that's not true.. sudo chown 744 /home/<loginname>
[04:27] <Xcell> I may.. i gave up on 8.04 cuz of sound issues
[04:27] <cchaos> Bluenzo: should be able to (I think)
[04:27] <Scunizi> phobiac: ericmanders or.. sudo chown -R 744 /home/<loginname>
[04:27] <phobiac> Scunizi: Like I said, either manually put them all back or do a reinstall.
[04:27] <Dreamglider> bluenzo, yea it's pretty easy to fix grub :)
[04:27] <Dreamglider> !grub
[04:27] <Dreamglider> first link there
[04:27] <mint_> when i go to reinstall grub, i get "cannot mount selected partition"
[04:27] <mint_> what gives?
[04:27] <bluenzo> Dreamglider, so i should be able to run 3 OS's with grub?
[04:28] <Scunizi> phobiac: you made it sound like you had to do something on each file individually..
[04:28] <Mike_lifeguard> How big should your swap partition be?
[04:28] <phobiac> Scunizi: You're also assuming it was just his /home that got messed up.
[04:28] <Dreamglider> bluejeans, as many as you can for on the drive
[04:28] <Xcell> Mike_lifeguard--  2.5 times your ram
[04:28] <phobiac> Scunizi: Because he never said what file permissions were messed up?
[04:28] <bluenzo> Dreamglider, lol i had a few physical HDDs
[04:28] <Scunizi> phobiac: I missed that part.. easier to just change everything. :)
[04:28] <Barridus> i never use swap XD
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> Xcell: is it bad to have more than that?
[04:29] <Xcell> me either.. i installed enough ram to feed a heard of leephants
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> that's just make-believe RAM for the system right?
[04:29] <Xcell> Mike_lifeguard--  do not
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> so more is fine
[04:29] <phobiac> Scunizi: Sorry for snapping at you, I'm in a bad mood. You were a bit more helpful than I was.
[04:29] <Barridus> Mike_lifeguard, it's just a waste
[04:29] <ajh2000> I am using intrepid ibex. The system freeze after playing sound ie mp3. Do you think that trying Jaunty Jackalope will fix the problem? Interestingly the same problem exists in the latest stable release of Debian but NOT in Gutsy Gibbon... same computer for all these OSs.
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, so it won't get used...
[04:30] <Mike_lifeguard> I'll bet I can make it smaller then...
[04:30] <etzerd> how can I installed FlashPlayer in ubuntu?
[04:30] <Davide> Barridus ok now woooh sound :(
[04:30] <Barridus> Mike_lifeguard, all it's really for is hibernate assuming you have more than a gig of ram
[04:30] <Scunizi> phobiac: like water off a duck.. :) everybody has a "day" once in a while..
[04:30] <Xcell> put more physical ram in it
[04:30] <etzerd> can anyone help
[04:30] <Davide> eseven73 did you have ideas from ubuntu 8.10 on how to make sound work?
[04:30] <Dreamglider> etzerd, you can dl the player from adobe
[04:30] <GunslingerFyre> try to play flash video in firefox, then click the "install missing plugins" bar at the top....alternatively, search synaptic
[04:30] <etzerd> they have so many version of it there
[04:30] <phobiac> etzerd: Do you mean the flash plugin for your browser?
[04:30] <Davide> 89% downloaded!
[04:30] <Barridus> Davide, is there a "pulseaudio" process running in sessions?
[04:30] <Davide> sessions... where is that?
[04:31] <Barridus> prefs i think
[04:31] <etzerd> they have Yum, Rpm, taz I just don't know which one to choose from
[04:31] <Barridus> there's a tab for processes
[04:31] <Barridus> no wait use the system monitor.  sorry.
[04:31] <Barridus> under administratio
[04:31] <etzerd> phobiac: Yes the Flash Plugin
[04:31] <Barridus> n
[04:31] <Davide> yes there's a pulse audio running
[04:31] <phobiac> etzerd: Try doing sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:32] <Dreamglider> etzerd, or you can do an "all on one" solution with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:32] <hulgh> Hi guys, I am looking for a package corner  mp. Is a music player that is embed on the corner of the desktop, does someone had hear about it?
[04:32] <ice-nine> Aaack   DAMN PULSEAUDIO!!!!
[04:32] <Davide> do I stop it?
[04:32] <Barridus> yeah it could be that.
[04:32] <Davide> oh
[04:32] <DrX> can someone help me get a linux system unfrozen?
[04:32] <phobiac> etzerd: Dreamglider's advice was good.
[04:32] <Barridus> it's kind of messy to get rid of pulseaudio
[04:32] <Xcell> Barridus--  i put sys mon on my task pannel..i monitor mem/cpu/etho.. cool graphs.. try it
[04:32] <GunslingerFyre> DrX - GUI frozen?
[04:32] <mint_> when i go to reinstall grub, i get "cannot mount selected partition" can someone help me fix this please?
[04:32] <Barridus> you'd have to blacklist it, etc, in the configuration files
[04:33] <cchaos> Is it possible to monitor system temps in 8.10?
[04:33] <ice-nine> Davide, are you able to switch to OSS in 8.10.  System -> Preferences -> Sound
[04:33] <Xcell> cchaos--  lmsensors?
[04:33] <Dreamglider> etzerd,  Look at -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:33] <Davide> Barridus well I removed it and it still doesnt work...
[04:33] <phobiac> mint_: Are at grub now?
[04:33] <cchaos> Xcell: I mainly want to monitor my CPU temp
[04:33] <Dreamglider> etzerd, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restircted-extras
[04:33] <mint_> phobiac: yes
[04:33] <Barridus> uninstalled it completely?
[04:33] <phobiac> mint_: Press c for the command prompt
[04:34] <mint_> k
[04:34] <nadan> hrmm not sure if neone here can help with this but my xbox controller (original) is supposed to be already working out of the box with ubuntu... and it recognizes it but i don't see nething in /dev/input/ to point to
[04:34] <Xcell> cchaos--  it takes a bit to make work.. plus depends on bios.. but i think lm sensors is what you want
[04:34] <Davide> Barridus I just hit the button remove from that list
[04:34] <Davide> in sessions
[04:35] <GunslingerFyre> ice-nine...is oss better than alsa?
[04:35] <phobiac> mint_: find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:35] <Xcell> cchaos--  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[04:35] <mint_> phobiac: ive done this.. im getting failure at "setup (hd0)"
[04:35] <phobiac> mint_: It should tell you (hdx,y) where x and y are numbers
[04:35] <cchaos> Xcell: well the BIOS shows temps on startup, so I imagine it can?
[04:35] <cchaos> Xcell: thanks for the link
[04:35] <Xcell> ^
[04:35] <Xcell> k
[04:36] <Barridus> Davide, do you have system monitor open?
[04:36] <ice-nine> GunslingerFyre, not in my opinion.  I've found ALSA works fine for me, but Davide has an audigy soundcard and is having problems getting it to work using ALSA and/or PULSEAUDIO...
[04:36] <phobiac> mint_: You're typing it wrong, you need to type (hd0,#) where # is the partition number of your root partition.
[04:36] <rongjiang> hi, anybody here? I've got a problem about ATI driver
[04:36] <ice-nine> OSS is quite old now.  I think BSD still uses it hardcore though.
[04:36] <phobiac> mint_: Not just (hd0)
[04:36] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: the focus is stuck in a VMWAre vm and the keyboard appears to be locked out
[04:36] <GunslingerFyre> ah
[04:36] <maxagaz> how to reload sound server on hardy ?
[04:37] <GunslingerFyre> doing anything you can't lose, DrX?
[04:37] <mint_> got it. thank you phobiac
[04:37] <phobiac> mint_: You're welcome.
[04:37] <mint_> appreciated
[04:37] <tmb> Hi, where do I report bugs in 9.04?  (It fails to reognize the hard drie on an HP DV2; 8.10 is working fine on the same hardware).
[04:37] <mint_> ive never had to do that before
[04:37] <mint_> but it makes sense
[04:37] <phobiac> mint_: No problem...I hate GRUB. I break it all the time.
[04:37] <cchaos> Xcell: I see what you mean by takes some work
[04:37] <Barridus> !jaunty|tmb
[04:37] <mint_> later
[04:37] <mint_> thanks again
[04:37] <tmb> thanks
[04:38] <GunslingerFyre> I break my grub lots too :)
[04:38] <Xcell> cchaos--  ya.. but with alittle patients youll get it
[04:38] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: don't care about the Vms but just don't want to get locked out nor restart the VMWare Linux host
[04:38] <rongjiang> The new driver 2:8.600-0ubuntu2 will make the composite very slow
[04:38] <GunslingerFyre> so it's a linux vm session on a linux vm server?
[04:39] <cchaos> Xcell: hopefully lol
[04:39] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: y
[04:39] <Xcell> lol..
[04:39] <GunslingerFyre> hmm
[04:39] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: actually, it's 3 OS VMs (1 linux) and 1 linux host
[04:39] <Xcell> cchaos--  i just installed sys mon on pannel and htop with both i could tell what my cpu is doing
[04:40] <Xcell> way easier
[04:40] <GunslingerFyre> focus stuck and keyboard locked out...
[04:40] <cchaos> Xcell: I have sys mon on my panel too, I was just curious about the temps
[04:40] <GunslingerFyre> so if you were to, say, kill x (ctrl-alt-backspace) wonder if it would kill the host's x or the vm's x
[04:40] <Xcell> ah
[04:40] <DrX> there is a small diamond that the pointer turns into when the mouse moves the arrow pointer outside the guest VM
[04:41] <Davide> Barridus sorry had to step away... no I dont have system monitor open... is that the "sessions?"
[04:41] <DrX> the thing is that ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work on this guest VM
[04:41] <GunslingerFyre> ah
[04:41] <Davide> Barridus could it help if I installed all of the updates available?
[04:41] <kravlin_> My splash screen no longer shows up when i boot. anybody know how i could fix this?
[04:41] <Iceman_B|SSH> when I read through manpages, I frequently get headings like " mount(8)"  <-- what does the number behind such a command mean?
[04:41] <Barridus> you'll want both open
[04:41] <ziroday> DrX: you need to ask the vm to pass on the ctrl+alt+bkspace signal.
[04:42] <Barridus> Davide^
[04:42] <lstarnes> Iceman_B|SSH: it refers to the manual section that you can find its man page on
[04:42] <lstarnes> *in
[04:42] <Xcell> kravlin--  I installed bootup manager from add remove..be careful not to abuse it.. in it it gives you that option
[04:42] <GunslingerFyre> you don't have a VM manager tool on another box, do you?
[04:42] <Xcell> @ your own risk
[04:42] <Iceman_B|SSH> lstarnes: okay, and how do I invoke that ?
[04:42] <mopoyo> what's an alternative to konversation
[04:42] <lstarnes> Iceman_B|SSH: man mount or man 8 mount
[04:42] <Scunizi> mopoyo: for irc?
[04:42] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: nope
[04:43] <mopoyo> Scunizi: yes
[04:43] <maxagaz> how can i run epiphany/firefox and then run xtensoftphone/ekiga with sound working on both ?
[04:43] <GunslingerFyre> sorry man, out of ideas then
[04:43] <roccity_> mopoyo: xchat for gui irssi for terminal
[04:43] <maxagaz> on hardy
[04:43] <Scunizi> mopoyo: xchat (not xchat-gnome) .. for terminal  access irssi
[04:43] <GunslingerFyre> don't know how to fix it without rebooting if you can't do anything in the host
[04:43] <Davide> Barridus, ok both open... stop the pulseaudio process?
[04:43] <ziroday> mopoyo: quassel if you are using kde
[04:43] <Iceman_B|SSH> lstarnes: thanks :)
[04:43] <Barridus> Davide, that "sessions" thing is sort of analogous to windows'  start->startup menu.  stuff that autoruns.  the system monitor/processes is somewhat analogous to the task manager.  you can see what is currently running
[04:44] <Iceman_B|SSH> how do I find out the UUID of a device ?
[04:44] <ziroday> Iceman_B|SSH: blkid
[04:44] <Davide> gotcha.. so stop the process
[04:44] <Barridus> Davide, yes.  then open terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base"
[04:44] <roccity_> Iceman_B|SSH: is it a disk drive like hard disk or cdrom?
[04:44] <Barridus> then reboot and see if sound works with alsa.  (you may need to fiddle with the mixer again)
[04:44] <kravlin_> Xcell: there was a script i ran before installing that. After that it no longer worked. Now i want to get the bootupmanager working and it won't.
[04:45] <Iceman_B|SSH> roccity_: hdd
[04:45] <Xcell> boot up manager is not in the admin column?
[04:45] <roccity_> Iceman_B|SSH: try in a terminal vim /etc/fstab
[04:45] <ziroday> Iceman_B|SSH: or just run blkid
[04:45] <Scunizi> Iceman_B|SSH: sudo blkid
[04:46] <Scunizi> roccity_: vim?  not good for a "new" person
[04:46] <ziroday> Scunizi: the sudo is not required
[04:46] <Iceman_B|SSH> blkid works fine
[04:46] <Scunizi> ziroday: it's been a while
[04:46] <kravlin_> Xcell: it is, however, no matter what i turn that to the theme doesn't work
[04:46] <Davide> Barridus ok done
[04:46] <kravlin_> Xcell: i found the script. uploading to pastebin right now.
[04:47] <Davide> Barridus now what?
[04:47] <Xcell> kravlin--  i would uninstall boot up manager.. re-boot--re-install--reboot.. thats all i can say..
[04:47] <ary> How do I know what driver my video car is using?
[04:47] <ice-nine> Davide, have you done sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base yet?
[04:47] <wendywilk> having problems getting AC97 audio drivers to work in ubuntu 8.10
[04:48] <Barridus> Davide, reboot, see if test sound works with ALSA.  if not, see if pulseaudio is running again (damn thing), and if it's not (good) check the alsa mixer again
[04:48] <Davide> yes I have
[04:48] <Davide> ice-nine
[04:48] <cchaos> Ary:  system, admin, hardware drivers
[04:48] <ziroday> ary: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log/
[04:48] <Davide> ok rebooting
[04:48] <bitfish> ary: try to run 'glxgears' in your terminal
[04:48] <bitfish> :s
[04:48] <Barridus> ice-nine, yeah i suggested he do that
[04:48] <roccity_> Scunizi: oops your right
[04:48] <ziroday> bitfish: what would that do besides giving him his FPS for it?
[04:49] <ice-nine> Barridus, yep, I was just reiterating..
[04:49] <Scunizi> Davide: on my desktop after one of the latest updates.. I had to double click the speaker /preferences and add "front" and "side" option sliders.. on every reboot those sliders are all the way down and I have to slide them back to the top to get audio..
[04:49] <wendywilk> where can I download AC97 audio drivers for ubuntu 8.10?
[04:49] <littlebeauty> hi
[04:49] <ary> bitfish: it shows me tree gears  :)
[04:49] <bitfish> ziroday: uh, if glx (3d) works, his Video-card definitely works. i don't think i understand your question ;)
[04:49] <Barridus> Davide, yeah his prob is legacy device in a newer kernel that no longer supports it correctly out of box, or that pulseaudio is doing the "i feel like sucking" thing it can do sometimes depending on hardware
[04:49] <ziroday> bitfish: he wanted to know what drivers he was using, not whether glxgears work :)
[04:50] <Barridus> oops meant ice-nine
[04:50] <ziroday> ary: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please.
[04:50] <kb1hzm> laters all
[04:50] <Xcell> later
[04:50] <Barridus> pulseaudio and i have a love/hate relationship XD
[04:50] <Davide> Barridus No dice
[04:50] <raylu> so i'm using gnome and a few kde apps (quassel, amarok). i want kcontrol but i can't find it or the equivalent to configure the appearance of qt stuff. what do i need to install?
[04:50] <cchaos> What is pulseaudio?
[04:51] <Xcell> Barridus--  thats why im still on 7.10
[04:51] <Xcell> lol
[04:51] <Barridus> Davide, is pulseaudio process running in system manager / processes?
[04:51] <Barridus> not in sessions..
[04:51] <Davide> Barridus yes it is
[04:52] <Davide> but not in sessions
[04:52] <ice-nine> hard to kill...
[04:52] <Barridus> bah you'll have to blacklist it then.  and it might not even be the fix you need.  i'm not sure if i know how to blacklist in intrepid so i prolly won't be of much use
[04:52] <Davide> ok NP 8.04 is done burning to CD
[04:53] <Davide> gonna just go for that Barridus
[04:55] <kravlin1> ok. i lost who i was talking to when i got disconnected.
[04:55] <Guest71675> Howdy all.  So I recently installed ubuntu 9.04 during my switch from Windows (whew-hoo). All of sudden today, OpenOffice Writer started opening at startup. How can I turn that off? I've looked in Preferences>Startup Applications and don't find it there to turn off.
[04:55] <kravlin1> who was i talking to?
[04:55] <Im_Toast> Guys, 2 things, 1. I occasionally have a small section of my screen like, not update and keep showing something from an earlier screen (Like I switch screens but that section stays the same) Any ideas why?
[04:55] <mopoyo> why does it say xchat is only for windows and fedora linux 7
[04:56] <ziroday> Guest71675: err why are you running 9.04, its in beta? Anyway support for jaunty is in #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <ziroday> mopoyo: ask the xchat devs.
[04:56] <LiMaO> kravlin1: [00:42:27] <Xcell> kravlin--  I installed bootup manager from add remove..be careful not to abuse it.. in it it gives you that option
[04:56] <LiMaO> kravlin1: probably Xcell
[04:56] <Guest71675> ok. I'll move over.  thanks.
[04:56] <kravlin1> ok. i lost who i was talking to when i got disconnected.
[04:56] <Scunizi> Im_Toast: your video driver isn't performing up to standards..
[04:56] <kravlin1> who was it?
[04:56] <kravlin1> Xcell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148090/
[04:57] <SJ2000> Why oh why are the busted version (The ones with showstopped bugs) of the nvidia driver 180.xx still available through the "Hardware Drivers" interface?
[04:57] <kravlin1> LiMa0: thank you so much!
[04:57] <ziroday> SJ2000: is there a LP bug filed?
[04:57] <remu> Hey folks, I had saved my .evolution folder from a previous install, and now after doing a fresh install of ubuntu and running evolution it is asking me to create the profile and everything. Why is it not seeing my old accounts and settings and just running from there?
[04:57] <Barridus> Davide, if you'e still there in intrepid try "gksudo gedit /etc/pulse/client.conf" and see if you get the pulseaudio configuration.  if so, change "autospawn = yes" to "autospawn = no"
[04:57] <LiMaO> kravlin1: you're welcome
[04:57] <ziroday> remu: same version of evolution?
[04:58] <remu> ziroday, yes it is
[04:58] <SJ2000> ziroday: Well it's been marked as fixed but they are still offering the bad versions
[04:58] <ziroday> SJ2000: link?
[04:58] <Gobby> How do I add Virtual desktops, i deleted my second panel to see what it would look like.
[04:58] <SJ2000> Problem is there are lots of dupes with varying problems, not sure which one applies to me
[04:58] <Gobby> I re-added my second panel though
[04:59] <Davide> oh
[04:59] <ziroday> remu: hmm, try add the stuff in the .evolution file in .evolution
[04:59] <Davide> Barridus too late already installing 8.04
[04:59] <Davide> it's formatting
[04:59] <Barridus> ok
[04:59] <Davide> :D
[04:59] <remu> ziroday, pardon? I don't understand.
[04:59] <Nephilus1> Hey guys i have a problem with my panel it doesn't show icons in the menu
[05:00] <Davide> I really like the picture from 8.04 better than 8.10
[05:00] <ziroday> remu: copy the contents of your backed up .evolution file to ~/.evolution
[05:00] <svref> How do I research a new 64-bit desktop for Ubuntu? Are there any vendors that support it?
[05:00] <nickgarvey> is there something in bash like && except in runs the next command if the previous one returned a failure? e.g., false ?? echo "previous command failed"
[05:00] <Barridus> Davide, might want to jot that down or something.  it's the 2nd step to ditching pulseaudio if you ever want to give it a shot again.  (first being sessions and unchecking pulseaudio, then doing that edit, then rebooting)
[05:00] <remu> ziroday, it is all already there, I never removed it from there (my home folder is on a separate partition)
[05:00] <spaceBARbarian> can someone help me get i8kmon to detect my config
[05:00] <ziroday> remu: ah, well in that case I have no idea
[05:01] <disappearedng> hey everyone is it possible for me to add a color theme for my gnome-terminal ?
[05:01] <Barridus> pulseaudio rocks when it works, but it has some "issues" depending on hardware.  (quite possibly on your legacy card),  it's kind of annoying to convince to go away, as you're noticing XD
[05:01] <Davide> Barridus what is pulseaudio exactly?
[05:02] <Scunizi> Davide: a sound server..
[05:02] <Brandon> how do i install gnome
[05:02] <Brandon> sudo apt-get install desktop-gnome?
[05:02] <Barridus> Davide, it's an "overlay" of sorts for ALSA.  adds multiple simultaneous sound channels
[05:02] <Scunizi> Brandon: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[05:02] <Brandon> ah ty
[05:02] <Davide> and so in 8.04 it is not present?
[05:03] <Barridus> it might still be, i don't know
[05:03] <Brandon> E: Couldn't find package gnome-desktop
[05:03] <Scunizi> Davide: it is.. but not as well tweeked as 8.10
[05:03] <ary_> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m547c372c
[05:03] <Davide> Scunizi I see
[05:03] <ziroday> ary_: you are using the radeon driver
[05:03] <Barridus> Davide, either way you'll find out if the kernel is at fault.  if it's still no sound after tweaking mixer, you know now how to ditch pulse.
[05:04] <Scunizi> Davide: should also be better in 9.04
[05:04] <ary_> ziroday: propietary?
[05:04] <BiosElement> Not sure if this is really the place to ask but has anyone had problems connecting to MSN via pidgin? It was working just an hour ago. I'm guessing MSN's having some problems.
[05:04] <ziroday> ary_: no, open source
[05:04] <Davide> I guess if this doesn't work... I just need some newer hardware idk..
[05:04] <Davide> LOL
[05:04] <Scunizi> BiosElement: that happens.. try aMSN
[05:04] <ziroday> BiosElement: install msn-pecan and change your provider to WLM. It is much more stable
[05:04] <Barridus> Davide, copout idea here, but you don't happen to have a spare newer card?
[05:04] <ary_> ziroday: it come with the default installation
[05:04] <ziroday> ary_: yes
[05:05] <Brandon> Scunizi: E: Couldn't find package gnome-desktop why will it not work
[05:05] <BiosElement> ziroday, Yeah. I was using WLM for a few weeks last month but when I re-installed I left it default. I guess I'll switch it bacl to pecan then.
[05:05] <Davide> hehe I don't... unfortunately
[05:05] <Barridus> Davide, at least the "plus" side is i'm sure an inexpensive card would work better
[05:05] <SJ2000> I think this one has the most similar to my problem except it's only occuring with the 180 drivers from the "Hardware Drivers" interface (Which install 180.11 for some reason) and I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/321741
[05:05] <ziroday> BiosElement: basically the current msn thingymabob is legacy, which MS is slowly phasing support out for. WLM is the newer, fancier protocl
[05:06] <BiosElement> ziroday: Really? I figured it was a deal of pecan being an older more stable protocol. That's useful to know. Thanks. :)
[05:06] <Davide> well if this doesnt work it might push me to finally purchase a new system... then I can use my current rig which is 3 years old or so, and maybe that will work
[05:06] <ziroday> SJ2000: read the bug. It tells you to test jaunty which has the gix.
[05:07] <Barridus> yeah Davide don't give up on linux.  pulseaudio can be fickle, especially with hardware that's in less demand now
[05:07] <ziroday> SJ2000: fix, sorry
[05:07] <SJ2000> ziroday: I'm not using Jaunty
[05:07] <ziroday> SJ2000: well the fix is in jaunty. Or you can find a PPA with newer drivers in
[05:07] <Davide> I'm trying to put the ubuntu on an old P4 2.4ghz 512MB ram Gateway comp that my mom's friend gave me....
[05:07] <Davide> I like the case though
[05:08] <Barridus> pulse works great in jaunty for me.... except in pidgin for some reason.
[05:08] <Barridus> i think it's pidgin's fault though.
[05:08] <SJ2000> ziroday: so basically the 180 nvidia driver which is marked as "[Recommended]" in the Hardware Drivers panel is actually old outdated and is known to be faulty?
[05:08] <Davide> I'm still not grasping what pulse can actually do
[05:08] <Scunizi> Davide: should work.. that's what I was running up until this last Dec.. but I had 2 gigs of ram..
[05:08] <Davide> you said add different sound channels?
[05:08] <ziroday> SJ2000: I am not sure of the circumstance, sorry.
[05:08] <ziroday> SJ2000: however there is a fix.
[05:08] <Brandon> what other version's are there gnome kde fluxbox blackbox
[05:08] <Davide> I hope scunizi!
[05:08] <Davide> :D
[05:08] <Barridus> Davide, yeah let's say you have two programs making sounds at once
[05:08] <Xcell> Barridus--  every time i tried to run 2 sound devices pulse always broke on me.
[05:08] <Davide> 94% done
[05:09] <Wilton10> HEY FOLKS
[05:09] <Wilton10> WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE REDS!!!
[05:09] <FloodBot2> Wilton10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:09] <Barridus> Davide, you need pulse for that.  alsa can only handle one.
[05:09] <BoltClock> hi, fixing grub after a windows installation only only only affects the mbr right?
[05:09] <Davide> I see
[05:09] <SJ2000> ziroday: a fix for something I don't use :/ I'm trying to work out why they are recommending outdated and broken drivers on a release
[05:09] <FrodBonzi> you can get more help in #2,000
[05:09] <Barridus> Davide, once it works it'll all make sense.  hard to wrap your head around it without the common ground of context
[05:09] <ziroday> SJ2000: as I said I am not familiar with your situation. You are free to downgrade your drivers if you so wish
[05:10] <Davide> yeah I hear that...
[05:10] <Barridus> i did too, months ago XD
[05:10] <DJvRadio> hola
[05:10] <Davide> But I really enjoy this.  The troubleshooting you're helping me with is teaching me a lot of stuff I didn't know
[05:10] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:10] <Davide> so that's great!
[05:10] <Barridus> Davide, i'm glad i've been of use heheh
[05:10] <DJvRadio> is anybodey besides me using portable ubuntu??
[05:11] <Davide> yeah you and everyne else... but stick around for the grand finale
[05:11] <SJ2000> ziroday: yeah, that's what I did. I'm just surprised that they are still offering the old and broken drivers with showstopped bugs and saying it's recommended. The only reason I installed it was because it popped up and bugged me about it. Is it worth filing a launchpad bug?
[05:11] <Barridus> the initial learning curve seems daunting.  then you hit the "hump" and it's like dawn.
[05:11] <Davide> let's see if it is anticlimactic
[05:11] <Davide> LOL
[05:11] <Barridus> i doubt i can unfortunately Davide, it's past midnight :/
[05:11] <ziroday> SJ2000: a bug has already been filed. I don't think you can do anymore about it besides test with a livecd if the issue still exists
[05:11] <Barridus> i hate not seeing things through the end though.
[05:11] <Xcell> kravlin--  any luck?
[05:11] <Davide> you're on the east coast?
[05:12] <Barridus> yes.
[05:12] <Davide> well that's ok will you be on tomorrow? I'll let you know what happens
[05:12] <Barridus> well not really, indiana.  it's "eastern" now.
[05:12] <Davide> :D
[05:12] <Scunizi> SJ2000: you can always install the driver from nvidia.. 180.44 is working for me
[05:12] <SJ2000> Scunizi: that's what I used to do, this is the second time I installed it from Hardware Drivers instead of direct.... I've certainly learnt my leason :/
[05:12] <Barridus> Davide, probably heh.  well depends how a certain girl-related event goes.
[05:13] <egn> anyone know why my xorg.conf is so short? l$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf| wc -l
[05:13] <egn> 33
[05:13] <Davide> haha good luck!
[05:13] <ziroday> Scunizi: please don't recommend manual installs. They more often then not break for users due to conflicting drivers
[05:13] <Scunizi> SJ2000: don't discont Hardware Drivers.. lots of times they work.. lately not though
[05:13] <Barridus> thanks XD
[05:13] <Davide> well install is basically done if you wanna wait
[05:13] <Davide> probably less than 5 minutes :D
[05:13] <Scunizi> ziroday: except when what's available in the system doesn't work..
[05:13] <SJ2000> ziroday: I've had more success with the "manual" drivers then "Hardware Drivers"
[05:14] <mneptok> Barridus: if you want a hint, avoid using the word "girl"
[05:14] <Barridus> i can hang a few more
[05:14] <ziroday> egn: because its auto-configured nowadays
[05:14] <Davide> oh I think it's done
[05:14] <Davide> restarting
[05:14] <DJvRadio> well imma turn in for the night but ill be here
[05:14] <egn> ziroday: when X starts?
[05:14] <Barridus> mneptok, well it was simpler than saying i was going to go into my hairdresser and ask her out for dinner XD
[05:14] <ziroday> egn: yep
[05:14] <egn> ziroday: what if I want to add something to it?
[05:15] <mneptok> Barridus: "woman" or "lady" is your best nomenclature for someone you want to date, IME ;)
[05:15] <ziroday> egn: feel free to.
[05:15] <egn> ziroday: hm, okay
[05:15] <Davide> what is grub?
[05:15] <SJ2000> perhaps if they actually stopped forcing buggy drivers down our throats through naglets and [recommended] we wouldn't have to use the manual drivers since they are more up to date then what ubuntu offers through Hardware Drivers
[05:15] <Davide> grub loading....
[05:15] <mneptok> !grub > Davide
[05:15] <BoltClock> hi, fixing grub after a windows installation strictly, only only only affects the mbr right?
[05:15] <Barridus> mneptok, yeah but this is guy talk ;
[05:15] <jjrev> grub=boot loader
[05:15] <Barridus> )
[05:15] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:15] <Davide> ah Thank you!
[05:16] <ziroday> BoltClock: yep
[05:16] <cchaos> Just noticed this : Apr 10 01:35:34 adz kernel: [    0.428369] weird, boot CPU (#0) not listedby the BIOS <-- that normal?
[05:16] <BoltClock> ziroday: hey there :)
[05:16] <ziroday> BoltClock: hey :)
[05:16] <mneptok> Barridus: really, i'll tell my wife to get off of IRC. man, this makes things easier.
[05:16] <Tarzan^> is yahoo voice available  on linux
[05:16] <Davide> BOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO NO SOUND!
[05:16] <Xcell> lolol
[05:16] <Barridus> DOWN WITH PULSE
[05:16] <jjrev> what sound card do you have?
[05:16] <loquitus_of_borg> Does compiz work with Jaunty?
[05:16] <loquitus_of_borg> I have Jaunty
[05:17] <Barridus> your soundcard might not be able to handle pulse, Davide
[05:17] <mneptok> Davide: open a Terminal and type "killall pulseaudio" (no quotes)
[05:17] <ziroday> loquitus_of_borg: yes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:17] <Scunizi> Davide: once loaded open the terminal.. Applications/accessories/terminal and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and your system will be brought up to par with all the updates.
[05:17] <Barridus> mneptok, well this is far from my first date experience XD
[05:18] <RobotCow> find
[05:18] <loquitus_of_borg> ziroday: yes as in it works? (sorry... I am on that other channel now but in case nobody helps me there...)
[05:19] <ziroday> loquitus_of_borg: yes it works. And yes you have to ask in #ubuntu+1 only
[05:19] <Davide> Scunizi ok running upgrade then gonna do dist-upgrade
[05:19] <Barridus> loquitus_of_borg, well it depends on hardware, but it runs awesome for me
[05:19]  * mneptok heads to bed
[05:19] <Barridus> on two machines i might add
[05:19] <BiosElement> ziroday, I checked twitter and MSN was down. This time it wasn't the protocol failing. Their whole network went kobonk.
[05:19] <jjrev> has anyone tried 'awesomeWM' ??
[05:19] <Davide> Scunizi can that be done from the GUI?
[05:19] <BoltClock> ziroday: a little update on what happened: windows 7 refused to install, i erased its partition, tried some ways to remove its bootloader, ended up killing xp as well and lost my stuff, ubuntu is intact, reinstalled xp, now i need to regrub
[05:20] <ziroday> BiosElement: wfm
[05:20] <BoltClock> ziroday: and i am worried about regrubbing...
[05:20] <Scunizi> Davide: with the && between commands you could have done it all on one line.. the && means "continue if the last was successful"
[05:20] <roberto> !list
[05:20] <Davide> ooh
[05:20] <Davide> LOL
[05:20] <ziroday> !grub | BoltClock follow the first link and you will be fine
[05:20] <Davide> didnt know that thanks
[05:21] <hmw> I found a solution to the problem "webcam too dark" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=614098 but I am not allowed to answer that post. How does this forum work, and where should I leave my solution?
[05:21] <Flannel> hmw: Try #ubuntuforums
[05:21] <hmw> thanks
[05:21] <Scunizi> hmw: register on the form then login to answer posts
[05:22] <hmw> i am logged in
[05:22] <cchaos> hmw: it may be a locked post
[05:22] <Im_Toast> My sound just randomly went out (Sometime between last night and tonight) can anyone give me some pointers for diagnosing the problem
[05:22] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:22] <RobotCow> is there a command to show how many man pages there are for a specific command?
[05:22] <BoltClock> ziroday: in `grub> setup (hd0)`, is (hd0) definitely referring to my windows disk?
[05:23] <hmw> cchaos: hmm... might be... but its like that with every problem, i had found a solution. I am near to giving up
[05:23] <Barridus> hmw, that thread is from 2007...  it's now in a read only archive
[05:23] <ziroday> BoltClock: it refers to the first disk, so yes. And I have to go, bye
[05:23] <UbuntuShake73263> I need ubuntu help!
[05:23] <UbuntuShake73263> lol
[05:23] <BoltClock> ziroday: bye
[05:23] <cchaos> Im_Toast: changed anything? Loose wire?
[05:23] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263,
[05:23] <jjrev> what kind of help
[05:23] <UbuntuShake73263> well...
[05:24] <UbuntuShake73263> first off, just switched to ubuntu
[05:24] <UbuntuShake73263> and i love it
[05:24] <UbuntuShake73263> second...
[05:24] <Barridus> !ask UbuntuShake73263
[05:24] <hmw> Barridus: ic.
[05:24] <cchaos> hmw: then look for posts that arent old lol
[05:24] <Barridus> !ask|UbuntuShake73263
[05:24] <Im_Toast> cchaos: It's internal speakers (I'm on a laptop) and I didn't think I changed anything... that's why I'm not sure what to try lol
[05:24] <Anon> Hello all.
[05:24] <hmw> cchaos: people find this old post on google. THe solution should be added.
[05:25] <Anon> Could someone help me with my places menu issues?
[05:25] <UbuntuShake73263> when i install kde on my system, then reboot... my system seems to hang at "checking battery" or whatever it is, and wont finish loading to my gui
[05:25] <jjrev> have you tried installing "Kubuntu" ???
[05:26] <Barridus> UbuntuShake73263, or kubuntu-desktop?
[05:26] <Anon> When I try to open my home folder via the places menu, I get this: 'No application is registered as handling this file'
[05:26] <cchaos> Im_Toast:  is there a "mute" button on your laptop?
[05:26] <Im_Toast> cchaos: Yes =P But no, it's not muted lol
[05:26] <jtgiri> HI guys i am having issue with adding a user to www-data group , I added a user with  useradd  -G www-data -s /bin/bash -d /home/sandboxdev -m sandboxdev , but when I cat /etc/password it shows like this sandboxdev:x:1007:1007::/home/sandboxdev:/bin/bash , I have no idea why it's not showing in www-data group
[05:27] <cchaos> Im_toast: I assume youve checked the volume too?
[05:27] <Anon> jtgiri: try doing it via gui (no knowledge of that command)
[05:27] <Im_Toast> cchaos: Yeah lol, I've checked the simple things already =P
[05:28] <UbuntuShake73263> sorry, im having some internet issues... comcast... i tried installing both kde and kubuntu...
[05:28] <jtgiri> Anon: now gui :(
[05:28] <ZeZu> is there a default username/password for jaunty if you somehow manage to install without one ?
[05:28] <Double_Kill2> hey guys uhm i need some help
[05:28] <UbuntuShake73263> when i installed kubuntu... it shows me the kubuntu load screen, but then goes back to the stuff thats loading and seems to hang on battery state
[05:28] <Xcell>  try setting everything to ALSA in sound options, then do sudo alsa force-reload
[05:29] <Double_Kill2> can anyone here help me with a firefox problem?
[05:29] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, what kind of machine are you installing on?
[05:29] <mopoyo> GUYS
[05:29] <UbuntuShake73263> im thinking it might have something to do with my graphics card?
[05:29] <Im_Toast> Xcell: K,  1 sec
[05:29] <Davide> Scunizi done
[05:29] <mopoyo> when i start kubuntu there is no sound
[05:29] <hmw> cchaos: that thread is the first result, when using google with "ubuntu webcam too dark"... old or not, the solution should be added, i guess... anyhow, thanks for your hints
[05:29] <UbuntuShake73263> well, its a system i built.... all custom stuff.
[05:29] <Double_Kill2> i need help with a firefox problem
[05:29] <Scunizi> Davide: if it asks for a restart do it.
[05:29] <mopoyo> but when i type sudo modprobe snd-cmipci the sound works!!!!!!
[05:29] <UbuntuShake73263> my graphics card is a nvidia 5200
[05:29] <Double_Kill2> can anyone help me?
[05:29] <Davide> it doesnt... should I do it anyway?
[05:29] <Scunizi> Double_Kill2: what is the problem..
[05:30] <mopoyo> GUYS PLEASE LISTEN
[05:30] <Anon> My places menu is an amalgamation of fails.
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> okay when i open up firefox now it goes to like a total full screen and i can see the minimize/max/and close buttons
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> and stuff
[05:30] <Scunizi> Davide: nope. if it doesn't say it needs to don't
[05:30] <Anon> It refuses to open anything.
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> and it is really agrivating
[05:30] <mopoyo> GUYS PLEASE LISTEN TO ME
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> i tried re installing it
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> but that didnt work
[05:30] <Anon> mopoyo: say it already
[05:30] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I'm still sound-less
[05:30] <Scunizi> Double_Kill2: you can or can't see the buttons
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> can't
[05:31] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, anything else special about this system?
[05:31] <mopoyo> Anon: when i start kubuntu the sound doesn't work  but when i type sudo modprobe snd-cmipci the sound works!!!!!!
[05:31] <Scunizi> Double_Kill2: did yo do an upgrade? or install a plugin lately or something?
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> no
[05:31] <cchaos> Double_Kill2: press f11 in firefox
[05:31] <hmw> Double_Kill2: you mean CAN NOT see? your compiz might be compromised. Try metacity --replace
[05:31] <Anon> mopoyo: then add that command to the things executed when you log in.
[05:31] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  try this also.. keep in mind this usually works.  alsa-mixer alsa-utils
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> OMG
[05:31] <Xcell> install
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> cchaos
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> I LOVE YOU
[05:31] <UbuntuShake73263> hmw, well, what do you want to know about hardware? its got an asus motherboard, amd duo core, im not sure on the hd, but its from my older system
[05:31] <Anon> mopoyo: Can't help beyond that, I use gnome.
[05:31] <FloodBot2> Double_Kill2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <Schalken> We do "make && sudo make install" to compile and install a source archive, but what do you do to install the header files in /usr/include/ for development?
[05:31] <cchaos> lol
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> cchaos your amazing!
[05:32] <Double_Kill2> sorry floodbot2
[05:32] <hmw> UbuntuShake73263 looks like you typed the wrong nick name
[05:32] <UbuntuShake73263> what?
[05:32] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, don't worry about it..
[05:32] <hmw> UbuntuShake73263 i didnt talk to you
[05:33] <jjrev> hmw, i think he/she might be new to mrc
[05:33] <UbuntuShake73263> me?
[05:33] <jjrev> er. irc
[05:33] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Where am I supposed to be doing this?
[05:33] <Xcell> terminal
[05:33] <bonez46> where do I find what my computer is named and the name of the workgroup for the network .. so I can share files with others on LAN..
[05:33] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, don't worry about hmw
[05:33] <UbuntuShake73263> ohzie, alright, cool cool
[05:33] <UbuntuShake73263> er...oh
[05:33] <Im_Toast> Xcell: alsa-mixer command not found
[05:33] <hmw> UbuntuShake73263 - everything is fine, i just thought you wanted to answer someone. It was certainly not me
[05:34] <usser> Schalken, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:34] <Xcell> sudo apt-get install
[05:34] <mopoyo> what do you guys use to play videos?
[05:34] <usser> mopoyo, mplayer
[05:34] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Oh install it =P
[05:34] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, so the load screen hangs on battery..
[05:34] <Scunizi> mopoyo: vlc or mplayer
[05:34] <Anon> bonez46: hostname
[05:34] <clearscreen> mopoyo: vlc
[05:34] <jjrev> are you able to boot to a gnome gui?
[05:34] <UbuntuShake73263> Alright, so, after installing kde and/or kubuntu on my ubuntu system, it seems to hang on battery state
[05:34] <UbuntuShake73263> well, im not really sure how to change back to a gnome gui...
[05:34] <bonez46> Anon: is this handled though in any gui? or just at command line?
[05:34] <UbuntuShake73263> last time it happened, i formatted... lol
[05:34] <Anon> bonez46: cli
[05:35] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, heh.  i forget the file name
[05:35] <bonez46> cli?
[05:35] <mopoyo> do i type apt-get install vlc
[05:35] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, try "find / -name xsession"
[05:35] <Im_Toast> bonez46: command line interface
[05:35] <Anon> bonez46: command line interface. That is, yes, execute that in the command line.
[05:35] <bonez46> ok.
[05:35] <Scunizi> mopoyo: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:35] <hmw> mopoyo: most probably sudo apt-get ...
[05:35] <UbuntuShake73263> where do i do that? in a terminal?
[05:35] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, yes.
[05:35] <Schalken> usser: Yes, that will install what is required to build it, but I'm asking what is needed to put the appropriate header files into /usr/include/ so I can write software for it.
[05:36] <mopoyo> where does it download vlc from
[05:36] <Anon> mopoyo: ubuntu repos
[05:36] <Scunizi> mopoyo: the great repository of ubuntu
[05:36] <ZeZu> hmm,  it seems i dont have any user and i'm locked out of root, fun
[05:36] <bonez46> Anon: ok, but how do I assure that my resources are shared, so that my windows machine can see the printer attached to my ubuntu box?
[05:36] <usser> Schalken, software for what? i dont think i understand?
[05:36] <Anon> bonez46: That, I can't help you with, unfortunately. Never done anything of the sort.
[05:36] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, also try .xsession if that yields nothing
[05:37] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I'm going to try a random reboot... that seems to fix stuff 50% of the time ;)
[05:37] <Davide> Scunizi bleah still no sound...
[05:37] <Xcell> ok.. did you install all that tho?
[05:37] <Anon> My places menu won't open my home folder. Any ideas?
[05:37] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Yeah
[05:37] <UbuntuShake73263> seems like its hanging after that first command
[05:37] <bonez46> ok
[05:37] <Scunizi> Davide: did you check the alsa mixer to see if it was muted?
[05:37] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Still no sound...
[05:37] <Xcell> ok good luck
[05:37] <Davide> now how do I do that/
[05:37] <Davide> ?
[05:37] <Davide> did you ask me to do that I must have missed it sorry
[05:38] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, no - its just searching your entire filesystem for that xsession file
[05:38] <Scunizi> Davide: double click the little speaker icon up by the date/clock and you'll see the sliders.. you have to play with them.
[05:38] <Schalken> I have downloaded the source for libgpod in .tar.gz format. Extracted, ./configured, make'd and make install'd. That has correctly install the libraries. But to develop for libgpod I need header files that I can include. I'm asking what needs to be done in the source tree in order to install these header files.
[05:38] <Scunizi> Davide: PCM needs to be up.. Master needs to be up.
[05:38] <pumpkinseed> does anyone have a recommendation for a Twitter client for Ubuntu?
[05:38] <UbuntuShake73263> ohzie, cool cool... i also tried .xsession in a seperate terminal but i got a command not found
[05:38] <UbuntuShake73263> the find is still searching, i'll let you know
[05:39] <Anon> pumpkinseed: gtwitter (gnome) and choqok (kde) are some that come to mind. All of them are in the repos.
[05:39] <Schalken> usser: ^^
[05:39] <Anon> pumpkinseed: apt-cache search twitter
[05:40] <UbuntuShake73263> alright, i got a bunch of stuff found when i did a find xsession. 2 files in the /root/ folder but most of em are in the /proc folder
[05:40] <UbuntuShake73263> and they all say permission denied
[05:40] <pumpkinseed> Anon: Yeah, I know of a bunch of clients... I'm just wondering what some of you guys recommend
[05:40] <Davide> Scunizi so everything unmuted and up?
[05:40] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, how are you doing the search?  can you swith to another virtual terminal with an "Alt+Fx"??
[05:40] <pumpkinseed> Hence "recommendation"...
[05:40] <Double_Kill2> does anyone in here have an idea of how to back up my current partition as an image/.iso so i can burn it to disc as my backup?
[05:40] <Scunizi> Davide: yep.. you might also have to click on properties and add Front and Side.. but guessing from the age of your machine that's probably not an option
[05:40] <pumpkinseed> I ask for things in a certain way for a reason, thank you very much :P
[05:40] <Anon> pumpkinseed: I have no idea. Try them out and see which one works for you, I guess.
[05:40] <Anon> :p
[05:41] <pumpkinseed> thanks
[05:41] <jjrev> Double_Kill2, you can use "dd"
[05:41] <usser> Schalken, just get the header files and put them into /usr/include and source files and put them into /usr/src
[05:41] <Double_Kill2> what's dd?
[05:41] <Anon> pumpkinseed: Ask on twitter if you have enough followers :O
[05:41] <Anon> *:P
[05:41] <jjrev> Double_Kill2, command line thing.. > "man dd"
[05:41] <Tarzan^> does any buddy knows any apps on linux where i can get yahoo voice support ?
[05:41] <Schalken> usser: How do I know which ones I need? There are about a dozen, and the old libgpod-dev package only has one of them. Surely there would be a command I can run in the source tree to do it for me?
[05:41] <Double_Kill2> oh, can you explain, sorry i'm new to linux :/
[05:41] <mopoyo> guys where can i learn the commands of ubuntu?!!?
[05:42] <jjrev> Double_Kill2, there are also plenty of tools that do that.. gui tools that is
[05:42] <Anon> mopoyo: There are too many to know.
[05:42] <usser> Schalken, its nothing special really, its just for your convinience that you put stuff into /usr/include so you can write stuff #include <libgpod/blah.h> instead of #include "libgpod/blah.h"
[05:42] <Davide> Scunizi yeah nothing happening... I'm giving up on this with this hardware at least...
[05:42] <Anon> mopoyo: man <insertcommand> for info on a command.
[05:42] <Davide> gonna have to buy another card or something
[05:42] <Schalken> mopoyo: This might be a good start: http://fosswire.com/post/2008/4/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/
[05:42] <tgr> a question i was wondering if you could tell me how to install a compiz theme specifically this one http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Yakano+-Colors-?content=95885 in ubuntu
[05:42] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, alright, i got a bunch of stuff found when i did a find xsession. 2 files in the /root/ folder but most of em are in the /proc folder. They all say permission denied if that matters.
[05:42] <Scunizi> Davide: add in cards are cheap.. check craigs list in your area
[05:42] <Double_Kill2> yes i am new to this so i'm not exactally totally following you
[05:42] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:42] <usser> Schalken, if not sure just put the header files that you know you'll need into your own program source tree, again /usr/include is just for your convenience
[05:43] <Anon> Could someone help me with my places menu?
[05:43] <Davide> I have the windows drivers can't I FORCE them onto linux? LOL
[05:43] <Xcell> lol
[05:43] <jjrev> Double_Kill2, look into GParted
[05:43] <Davide> LOL Xcell
[05:43] <nickgarvey> I'm trying to compile gcalctool but I'm not sure how to specify where to find the .glade file,  where I should ask this question?
[05:43] <Schalken> usser: I see. I just thought there was a "right way" to do it. Thanks for your help!
[05:43] <usser> Schalken, sure
[05:43] <Anon> nickgarvey: their forums
[05:44] <mopoyo> what does apt-get update do?
[05:44] <Xcell> brb.. coffee.
[05:44] <ary> ziroday: what is the difference between opensource ati driver and catalyst?
[05:44] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, heh.. yeah, i should've known better
[05:44] <hmw> anon: what do you need?
[05:44] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, i'm pretty sure its going to be ~/.xsession
[05:44] <UbuntuShake73263> oh no, what did i do wrong? i dont like the sound of that
[05:44] <Davide> well... I"m actually gonna have to install windows now :(
[05:44] <UbuntuShake73263> lol
[05:44] <lstarnes> mopoyo: it updates the package database
[05:44] <Anon> hmw: My places menu doesn't open my home folder. It says No application is registered as handling this file
[05:45] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, try "nano ~/.xsession"
[05:45] <Anon> hmw: My home folder is on the same partition/disk as everything else.
[05:45] <mopoyo> lstarnes: i'm a noob... wat is the package database
[05:45] <genii> mopoyo: It fetches the latest list of what you can install
[05:45] <jingjing> !ubotu ntop
[05:45] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, looks like a blank file
[05:45] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:45] <Davide> hey Scunizi how about 7.10 could that work?  I still have that on CD from last time I tried to mess with mythtv
[05:45] <Scunizi> Davide: nope.. that would be a regression
[05:46] <lstarnes> mopoyo: the list of what packages are available and information about them, like what version they are, what other packages they need, and a description of what each one does
[05:46] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, alright.  let me get back to you
[05:46] <Davide> Scunizi if I run from "Live CD?" can I test with that to see if I get sound? with 7.10?
[05:46] <hmw> Anon: something seems to be broken with your gnome or nautilus. I cant tell, whats wrong, neither do I know, where to look for the error. It probably is related to something you or a program did.
[05:46] <UbuntuShake73263> right on jjrev, take your time and thanks for the help.
[05:46] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:46] <Scunizi> Davide: yea.. you could.. if it works there then it's just the setup in the new install that needs tweeking
[05:46] <hmw> Anon: do you have any idea, what action could have been related to this?
[05:47] <Anon> hmw: None at all.
[05:47] <mopoyo> Fetched 5776B in 2s (2009B/s)
[05:47] <mopoyo> Reading package lists... Done
[05:47] <mopoyo> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[05:47] <mopoyo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:47] <FloodBot2> mopoyo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <Scunizi> !sound | Davide
[05:47] <hinkley_> hey guys i wanna install ubuntu onto my HDD for Dual Boot, or standalone, whats the go with Drivers and shit for my mobo, sound card, ? i have sorted the Graphics out its just mobo, (i have DQ6 N680SLi)
[05:47] <MrObvious_> Hi. I don't have a little network icon and I just upgraded to 8.10 tonight.
[05:47] <MrObvious_> !language | hinkley_
[05:47] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:48] <hmw> Anon: maybe this helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1052490.html
[05:48] <Scunizi> lalillo: check in ##linux.. nobody seems to know here.
[05:48] <mopoyo> guys
[05:48] <mopoyo> plaese
[05:48] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: could you do a "ps aux | grep Network" ?
[05:48] <hinkley_> language eh??
[05:48] <mopoyo> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[05:48] <mopoyo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:48] <Anon> mopoyo: Read the error message.
[05:48] <raylu> nickgarvey: it's nm-applet, i believe
[05:48] <lalillo> Scunizi thanks
[05:48] <Scunizi> !ppagpg | mopoyo
[05:48] <Anon> mopoyo: And then think. Use common sense
[05:48] <chicoDF> i have a issue about znes 1.4 with the compilation: "make zsnes error 1"
[05:48] <MrObvious_> nickgarvey: http://pastebin.com/m14379745
[05:48] <castronovab> hello guys
[05:49] <lstarnes> chicoDF: pastebin the full output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:49] <hinkley_> !language | MrObvious
[05:49] <chicoDF> lstarnes, ok
[05:49] <Davide> shoot dont have it lol I can only find 6.06
[05:49] <hinkley_> what did i say
[05:49] <Scunizi> Davide: try it
[05:49] <ary> I need propietary ati drivers for xorg 1.6
[05:49] <MrObvious> hinkley_: S word.
[05:49] <hinkley_> LOL! thats a not a bad word is it? LMFAO.
[05:50] <Anon> hmw: Wow.
[05:50] <merquis> is hotmail working for anyone? i cant log in to it :( thought it was just an emesene problem
[05:50] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, can you describe what you did to install KDE from Ubuntu?
[05:50] <hinkley_> if ur religious or something then u might think it is.. christ.
[05:50] <MrObvious> Where have you been hinkley?
[05:50] <hmw> Anon: solved?
[05:50] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Any ideas?
[05:50] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  there?
[05:50] <Anon> hmw: That was it. Thank you immensely. The gap between forum support and IRC support is immense.
[05:50] <chuxxsss> Why does sudo not work anymore?   I can do sudo -k
[05:50] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Sound-less =(
[05:50] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: well we can try something easy, killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel
[05:51] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, i believe i went into the package manager and tried to install both kde and kubuntu through that. I believe i also tried an apt-get through the terminal to install kde, and it seemed liked it worked, but nothing changed. lol
[05:51] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: actually you don't even need the && and the stuff after it
[05:51] <MrObvious> Nothing.
[05:51] <MrObvious> lol
[05:51] <mopoyo> where do i find where my public keys are kept?
[05:51] <Im_Toast> UbuntuShake: When you get KDE you have to select it in sessions
[05:51] <hmw> Anon: Youre welcome, glad it was just that. And yes, i like this channel very much, too. Quality of support in here is quite good also.
[05:51] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  did you right click your spkr icon and go to prefs and make it alsa?
[05:51] <chicoDF> lstarnes, http://paste.ubuntu.com/148108/
[05:51] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Hmm nothing. Odd.
[05:51] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: killall nm-applet && nm-applet
[05:51] <Im_Toast> UbuntuShake: Log out, select options, sessions and KDE
[05:52] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: in what way does it not work?
[05:52] <sunapi386> how do u edit iptables?
[05:52] <hmw> anon: just a little hint: google is your friend ;-) http://www.google.at/search?hl=de&safe=off&newwindow=1&q=ubuntu+home+folder+%22no+application+is+registered%22&btnG=Suche&meta=
[05:52] <mopoyo> where do i find where my public keys are kept?
[05:52] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Yeah
[05:52] <sunapi386> i.e. i want to change my default gateway ip
[05:52] <Xcell> hmmmm
[05:53] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, so you might have only needed to do "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:53] <Davide> Found 7.10 trying
[05:53] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: if that doesn't work, right click an open spot on your panel, add to panel, notification area
[05:53] <lstarnes> sunapi386: for that, try ifconfig or route
[05:53] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, and restarted X
[05:53] <mopoyo> WHERE ARE THE PUBLIC KEYS KEPT FOR APT-GET UPDATE
[05:53] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Wow lol I lost my Gnome panel completely. lol
[05:53] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  ???
[05:53] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, so are you saying i should try to install kubuntu through the package manager after installing kde through a terminal?
[05:54] <Wavesonics> I'm setting up an SVN server, and having trouble w\ the user authentication, i would like to just use the Linux users if possible, any ideas?
[05:54] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: "gnome-panel"
[05:54] <lstarnes> chicoDF: be patient please.  If I say nothing, assume I;m working on it
[05:54] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Something is really wrong now. :\ BRB lemme try something.
[05:54] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: alright
[05:54] <Im_Toast> UbuntuShake73263: What problem are you having?
[05:54] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  sorry
[05:54] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  @least install alsamixergui  so you can see what may be muted and what controlls you have
[05:54] <lstarnes> chicoDF: is that the FULL output?
[05:54] <stew> mopoyo: "man apt-key"
[05:54] <mopoyo> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[05:54] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  yes
[05:54] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, not really.  if you have the default ubuntu installed, i think you can simply install "kde" from repositories and then log out and select KDE as your window manager
[05:55] <bazhang> !ppagpg > mopoyo
[05:55] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Ok I restarted X. That worked. :\
[05:55] <Scunizi> mopoyo: the key and how to install it should be listed on the PPA that you added to the sources.list..
[05:55] <lstarnes> chicoDF: I'm not sure if that is due to something bad in the source code for zsnes
[05:55] <Scunizi> mopoyo: you can also google the key number mentioned..
[05:55] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  long FULL  output
[05:55] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, do you see a gui when you start the machine to log in?
[05:55] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, when i boot up, there isnt an option that lets me pick the gui
[05:55] <DavidK999> Hello everyone
[05:55] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, is there a log in screen?
[05:55] <mopoyo> don't i have to delete that public key? because it's not available?
[05:56] <Im_Toast> UbuntuShake73263: There isn't anything that says options in the bottom left hand corner when you boot up?
[05:56] <lstarnes> mopoyo: you have to install that public key
[05:56] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: okie, at least it works
[05:56] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Downloaded
[05:56] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, if so, there should be an options button near the bottom of the log in window
[05:56] <chuxxsss> lstarnes, look like it has got to the help screen when I call it like sudo -h | so on
[05:56] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  it's a complete code for zsnes with the command "make"
[05:56] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, well, after the kubuntu screen loads, it goes back to the boot process and shows me battery state... if i switch to a new window, i think its by using f2 or the f keys or somethin, it asks me to login, so i do, but then it brings me to a terminal
[05:56] <Davide> Scunizi no sound in 7.10 live environment
[05:56] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev and im_toast, no, there is no options button for me
[05:56] <mopoyo> lstarnes: i don't understand why i have to install it?
[05:56] <BonezAU> anyone having problems with Pidgin or aMSN not signing in?
[05:57] <Im_Toast> that is wierd...
[05:57] <Cpudan80> Davide: 7.10 is real old, use 8.04 at least
[05:57] <lstarnes> mopoyo: it is needed to make sure that the packages are safe
[05:57] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  also check your (sound) in sys/prefs/sound and fiddle with that.. make sure its all on alsa
[05:57] <Scunizi> Davide: considering the age of the mb.. it should be fixable.. just will take some investigation and experimentation
[05:57] <chuxxsss> no BonezAU
[05:57] <jjrev> Im_Toast, UbuntuShake73263 agreed.. very strange
[05:57] <Scunizi> mopoyo: it also verifies that what you get from the ppa is actually from the ppa and not hijacked from someplace else
[05:57] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, so your saying that when it shows me "ubuntu" on the screen, it should have an options button at the bottom left?
[05:58] <Davide> Scunizi what kind of investigation/experimentation?  how would one go about figuring that out?  would that be too much trouble for what it's worth?
[05:58] <BlinkyToon> BonezAU,  I think MSN is making some changes that are causing problems  but pidgin seems fine
[05:58] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, yep
[05:58] <Anon> hmw: I was pretty sure I searched. Guess I needed to search better.
[05:58] <lstarnes> mopoyo: you could try sudo apt-key update
[05:58] <Scunizi> Davide: up to you.. just more learning..:)
[05:58] <chuxxsss> just test amsn BonezAU  login in ok from here in AU
[05:58] <hmw> Anon: np.
[05:58] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, ahhh... i dont know what i did wrong to install it then. Ive formatted and reinstalled like 3 times and never once have i see a button.
[05:59] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, i suppose there could be a slight chance i missed it.... but i cant imagine how. lol
[05:59] <Im_Toast> Xcell: There is no prefs file in /sys
[05:59] <Cryonisis> good morning to you all.
[05:59] <Im_Toast> Xcell: the only thing there that starts with a p is power
[05:59] <Xcell> sys/preferences/sound
[05:59] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, is there a gui when you log in to the machine?
[05:59] <Davide> well I think I'm done for tonight, cause the wife wants to watch tv...
[06:00] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148110/
[06:00] <UbuntuShake73263> yea, i installed something custom but yes, theres a gui for my login
[06:00] <Davide> maybe tomorrow... where should I start Scunizi?
[06:00] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Sorry about that.
[06:00] <Scunizi> Davide: I'll have ubottu give you links..
[06:00] <chuxxsss> lstarnes,  did you get my last
[06:00] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, but even before the custom thing i didnt have a button.
[06:00] <Scunizi> !sound | Davide
[06:00] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, ah ha!  methinks that is your problem...
[06:00] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Brb
[06:00] <Xcell> ok
[06:00] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, it may not be a button per se
[06:00] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: so what's the problem with sudo?
[06:00] <rongjiang_> New bug #358899 in fglrx-installer (restricted): "The windows resizes so slowly(max, min, resize)" [Undecided, New] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/358899
[06:00] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  it's a full code
[06:01] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: eh I had a feeling that would work but that seemed too easy :)
[06:01] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, but i dont remember seeing that button before even with a fresh install too. I gotta check... let me reboot.
[06:01] <chuxxsss> lstarnes, look like it has got to the help screen when I call it like sudo -h | so on
[06:01] <rongjiang_> anybody can help me for this bug?
[06:01] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, i'll be right back, thanks again for your help
[06:01] <mopoyo> when i try sudo apt-key update it says 2 unchanged...
[06:01] <chuxxsss> will notletmelogin in
[06:01] <lstarnes> chicoDF: is there anything before that (by the way, use nick: or nick, instead of nick~$ when addressing someone)
[06:01] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: The Ctrl+Alt+Backspace? xD
[06:01] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263,  np.. i'll be here
[06:01] <kimws1901> hello~
[06:01] <Cryonisis> Hi there, who would I speak to about getting some advice with regards to problems I am having with the installation of ubuntu?
[06:02] <lstarnes> Cryonisis: this channel
[06:02] <hmw> !ask | Cryonisis
[06:02] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: yeah
[06:02] <mamama> hey guys, I've been having this strange issue, I can see my sda disk and it's partitions (1,2,3, they're ntfs) however when I try to mount any of them I get a $MFT invalid magic. I tried ntfsfix /dev/sda1 but it says that they aren't there (it's true, only sda is there on /dev)
[06:03] <mamama> How weird is that? how can I run ntfsfix on sda1? I can see it on parted
[06:03] <lstarnes> chicoDF: it looks like an extra -L at the end of that g++ command.  I think the maintainers of zsnes might want to know about that
[06:03] <mamama> I can also see them from fdisk, and whenever I try to 'fix' them it says ntfs support isn't available
[06:03] <_-RED-_> hello
[06:03] <hmw> mamama: seeing it in parted is not the same as having it mounted
[06:03] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  mmm
[06:03] <mamama> I'm on a netbook so I can't really boot into windows and run chkfdisk from a CD/DVD
[06:03] <t0r_> server irc.ru
[06:04] <mopoyo> NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[06:04] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  tks
[06:04] <mamama> hmw I can't use ntfsfix to sort of fix the partition because it says sda1 doesn't exist
[06:04] <t0r_> /connect irc.ru
[06:04] <mamama> yet I can see it on fdisk/parted no problem
[06:04] <hmw> Cryonisis: your in the right place to ask us all. What is your problem?
[06:04] <Cryonisis> typing it now, sec
[06:04] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: but "sudo -h" doesn't work?
[06:05] <mamama> hmw Any ideas ?
[06:05] <baz> if i wanted to connect an sshfs drive when a certain user logs into the desktop, where would I put the command?
[06:05] <mopoyo> where can i get this key NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[06:05] <Cryonisis> I am running Vista Ultimate 32 bit. Downloaded 9.04, booted off the disc and started the install. when ti came to starting the partition tool, a message came up about GNU Parted not supporting something or other and that the coding was experimental and offered to "go Back" or Continue. I have selected both and nothing happens. It just sits and does nothing at all.
[06:05] <chuxxsss> No I am getting sudo -h| -l | -L so on lstarnes
[06:05] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: what is NOT working with sudo?
[06:05] <kimws1901> hello
[06:05] <hmw> mamama: thats weird... please pastebin the output of: mount, lspci, cat /etc/fstab
[06:06] <chuxxsss> normally I just sudo
[06:06] <chuxxsss> and a password
[06:06] <chuxxsss> konsole
[06:06] <lstarnes> mopoyo: according to that https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%27s%20keys%20to%20your%20system you should use a command like sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 9423A34CCA967634
[06:06] <Scunizi> Cryonisis: you might have to use Vista's partitioning tool and make room for ubuntu prior to installing.
[06:06] <_-RED-_> i dont want to sound like a nut but i just installed ubuntu 9.04 nice as hell lol but no svideo and no ati drivers for it so i install xp and i hape ms so this was hard for me but i need s video to work lol . im a open source lover lol i make all people i know use open source so when will linux get this shit right so i can love my computer lmao
[06:06] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: does that work?
[06:06] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Sorry, any other ideas?
[06:07] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  did you find sound under sys/preferences/sound?
[06:07] <lstarnes> mopoyo: I may be wrong with that one
[06:07] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  i wish to use NETPLAY but the lastest version do not have
[06:07] <Im_Toast> RED: why don't you just keep using 8.10 or 8.04 untill 9.04 comes out then?
[06:07] <kimws1901> ddddd
[06:07] <lstarnes> chicoDF: I don't know anything about that
[06:07] <k-man> where do i find the live cd versions of ubuntu?
[06:07] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I told you, there isn't a preferences in my sys folder...
[06:07] <dawson> Hello, I'm having a problem with my keyboard. The Function keys on the top are not working for any application. The only thing I get when I press F1 is a window on the corner giving me power information. Any ideas?
[06:07] <Scunizi> k-man: www.ubuntu.com
[06:08] <chuxxsss> I was check rkhunter and need to sudo into it..  As my harddrive is accessing all the time and it has only done this more reasonly
[06:08] <_-RED-_> cuz 810 dont work with svideo lol i tryed all .
[06:08] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  sorry..im still onother version.. can you find the sound tho?
[06:08]  * chicoDF anybody known about netplay in zsnes ?
[06:08] <mamama> Here's the pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/1387751
[06:08] <Cryonisis> Scunizi: I have created a 40gb partition specifically to install ubuntu. should I use the windows partition manager and just delete that partition all together and let ubuntu find the unused pace and create the partition itself?
[06:08] <k-man> Scunizi: do i just get any image or is there special live cd versions?
[06:08] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Let me try a locate
[06:08] <Scunizi> Cryonisis: that might just work
[06:08] <mamama> hwm http://www.pastebin.ca/1387751 that's the fstab, what was the command again? sorry I'm on console and apparently can't scroll up
[06:08] <hmw> Cryonisis: that sounds like a good idea. You might have accidently formatted that partition, and grub might not like that.
[06:08] <Scunizi> k-man: the main download link for the "Desktop" is the live cd version
[06:08] <mamama> hmw I mean
[06:08] <Cryonisis> ok thanks. will give it a go.
[06:09] <kimws1901> i have question,, at ubuntu, windows game is not use?
[06:09] <BonezAU> something is certainly going on with windows live (msn etc). when i go to http://login.live.com and log in, i get this error: We're unable to complete your request
[06:09] <BonezAU> Windows Live ID is experiencing technical difficulties. Please try again later
[06:09] <Cryonisis> ty for your help. have a good morning.
[06:09] <lstarnes> kimws1901: you can run may windows programs in linux using wine
[06:09] <hmw> mamama: lspci, df -h, /etc/fstab
[06:09] <Scunizi> BonezAU: they're rebooting windows server 2003 for the 3rd time today
[06:09] <BonezAU> Scunizi, only the 3rd time? that's pretty good uptime I must say
[06:10] <hmw> mamama: lspci, df -h, mount
[06:10] <_-RED-_> i do all the info i find on google and the ubuntu help but no use lol and this makes me go back to windows lol and it makes me mad as hell i hadte ms and bill gate lmao but one day linux will work on all so i wait
[06:10] <Davide> !sound
[06:10] <mopoyo> ok it worked lstarnes, goodbye
[06:10] <chuxxsss> I just got a redirection to windows live BonezAU
[06:10] <Scunizi> BonezAU: yea.. they've been running it in a linux hosted vm to make it easier  ... :)
[06:10] <lstarnes> !wine | kimws1901
[06:10] <mamama> hmw here we go: http://www.pastebin.ca/1387753
[06:10] <hmw> mamama: you might be able to scroll up in irssi with PageUp
[06:10] <mamama> Using pork actually
[06:10] <B3rz3rk3r> is the reason r2-d2 beeps so much because someone screwed up the alsa drivers?
[06:10] <mamama> But yea there's the output
[06:11] <dawson> disregard that, function setting was on
[06:11] <BonezAU> lol
[06:11] <mamama> I'm on a netbook, running ubuntu from a flashdrive
[06:11] <Im_Toast> Xcell: You think this could be it? /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic/include/config/sound
[06:11] <mopoyo> where can i get the list of packages?
[06:11] <kimws1901> !wine lstames
[06:11] <mopoyo> where can i find a list of packages!
[06:11] <hmw> mmamama: looks like your drive is not sdA but sdB... try to use /dev/sdb1 with that ntfs fix
[06:11] <chuxxsss> It's down I think BonezAU
[06:11] <BonezAU> chuxxsss, i'm getting a mixture of messages. aMSN says Wrong username or password, http://login.live.com says technical difficulties and i just tried it a 2nd time and it said wrong username or password...bloody windows
[06:12] <Xcell> no.. Im_Toast  there is no sound file under admin or prefs?.. if not.. go to prefs and go to main menue and make sure it is checked
[06:12] <Scunizi> mopoyo: on the gui to to system/Admin/Synaptic Package manager .. on the gui apt-cache search <package name>
[06:12] <hmw> mmamama: nah... sdb1 is your /boot...
[06:12] <chuxxsss> I use hotmail mate  my amsn is working
[06:12] <_-RED-_> fook this i just use windows lol i cant get svideo 2 work or a lot of thing so when linux or ubuntu fix this all be on windows :P
[06:12] <mamama> hmw That's the flashdrive
[06:12] <mamama> hmw the netbook HD is sda
[06:12] <Schalken> chuxxsss: The MSN servers are dead.
[06:12] <BonezAU> chuxxsss, i use a gmail address for my live passport
[06:13] <chuxxsss> ok
[06:13] <BonezAU> it would be nice of them to update their service status page
[06:13] <hmw> mmamama: is ther files like /dev/sda* ?
[06:13] <Im_Toast> You mean the sound program in preferences?
[06:13] <Im_Toast> Xcell: You mean the sound program in preferences?
[06:13] <Xcell> yes...lol
[06:13] <chuxxsss> amsn for me is working I just can check mail
[06:13] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I had already done that earlier... lol
[06:14] <Im_Toast> Xcell: When you said manually I thought you meant edit the config file
[06:14] <lstarnes> mopoyo: try looking in system > administration > synaptic package manager
[06:14] <Im_Toast> Xcell: So I'm trying to find it rofl
[06:14] <Xcell> lol
[06:14] <chuxxsss> anyone which update would have stop me using sudo in console?
[06:14] <ziroday> chuxxsss: none
[06:14] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: are you trying to run things without needing sudo?
[06:14] <BonezAU> chuxxsss, what error message are you getting?
[06:15] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  try switching to oss mixer?..
[06:15] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Which one? there are 3 oss
[06:15] <mopoyo> lstarnes, i'm using kubuntu
[06:15] <Xcell> right click volume control and prefs.. switch to oss
[06:15] <lstarnes> mopoyo: it might be adept in kubuntu
[06:15] <Scunizi> mopoyo: look for aptitude on the menu
[06:15] <Xcell> try every one.. lol
[06:16] <Scunizi> mopoyo: or adept like lstarnes mentioned
[06:16] <chuxxsss> I fix it haven't use it for a while
[06:16] <mopoyo> holy crap 148 for one game!!!!
[06:16] <mopoyo> 148MB
[06:16] <mopoyo> and i just installed one game
[06:16] <mopoyo> or is it updating all my packages?!?!
[06:17] <Scunizi> mopoyo: that is small when compared to a windows game.. or it's updating
[06:17] <mopoyo> crap....... it's updating all my programs
[06:17] <lstarnes> mopoyo: installing a package also requires installing all packaages needed by it
[06:17] <lstarnes> *packages
[06:17] <chuxxsss> Anyone no how to editor wine so it heres my mic.  this is so I can use Dragon Naturally speaking 10
[06:17] <mopoyo> does it automatically update all the packages?
[06:18] <lstarnes> mopoyo: any packages that may need updating
[06:18] <mopoyo> dam
[06:18] <mopoyo> i don't even use mysql
[06:18] <mylisto> hey everyone...what do ya'll think of microsoft
[06:18] <mopoyo> why should i use my bandwidth on it
[06:18] <hmw> !ot | mylisto
[06:18] <jjrev> mylisto, really??
[06:18] <Scunizi> mylisto: that's offtopic..
[06:18] <usser> !offtopic
[06:19] <mopoyo> microsoft is a shit hole
[06:19] <alps> Hi, I am using log function for a c program. but it is giving me error as I try to build it. The error is : "undefined reference to `log'". if any one knows what is the problem then please help me.
[06:19] <mylisto> hehe
[06:19] <mylisto> sorry...
[06:19] <Scunizi> mopoyo: make your language family friendly and you won't get kicked.
[06:19] <mopoyo> change log' to log
[06:19] <mopoyo> ?
[06:19] <chuxxsss> Anyone?
[06:19] <mopoyo> oh nvm
[06:20] <hmw> how does one list all partition tables of all drives? fdisk -l just does nothing on my machine
[06:20] <mopoyo> did you include the library and header?
[06:20] <Scunizi> hmw: sudo fdisk -l
[06:20] <robert00> hello can helpme please http://pastebin.com/dd5ea051
[06:20] <mylisto> was dealing with some ms people...while trying to get my girlfriends xo machine running...I'm running ubuntu on this one
[06:20] <hmw> gah... thanks Scunizi
[06:20] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I'm just gonna give up for tonight and go to bed
[06:20] <Xcell> ok.. youll get it.. talk 2 ya tomorrow
[06:20] <Im_Toast> Later
[06:20] <alps> mopoyo, its log.
[06:21] <Xcell> k
[06:21] <mopoyo> alps you have to include the math library and header dont u?
[06:21] <mylisto> so funny how they get mad when you pirate a version of xp...when you have already payed for it...and just want to use your original key
[06:21] <mylisto> "just buy another copy" what what what?
[06:21] <alps> mopoyo, yes math.h is included
[06:21] <gopogo> i just a installed a new system on i am able to connect wifi but not able to default gateway
[06:22] <gopogo> Jaunty -> its saying connected to wifi netework but not pigging default gateway
[06:22] <gopogo> and not showing up in router connected devices
[06:22] <Xcell> sleeps
[06:22] <gopogo> when i removed wep  security from router it worked
[06:22] <gopogo> why does it not work with wep
[06:22] <Scunizi> gopogo: turn off any encryption.. wpa, wpa2 wep and try again.. enable later
[06:23] <hmw> mamama: youre still here? what does sudo fdisk -l tell you?
[06:23] <gopogo> Scunizi: turn off in router ??
[06:23] <Scunizi> gopogo: web is horrible anyway.. hardly worth using.. you're better off using MAC address filtering.
[06:23] <Scunizi> *wep
[06:23] <robert00> hello can helpme please http://pastebin.com/dd5ea051
[06:23] <mopoyo> i think it's gay how ubuntu installs all these programs that you don't need!!!!!1
[06:24] <lstarnes> mopoyo: blame it on whatever you're installing that needs those packages
[06:24] <hmw> robert00: did you read the INSTALL and README files?
[06:24] <kitchenrange> hey everyone, I frequently use torrents and am a part of a website that uses ratios for various things.  I haven't forwarded my ports correctly and my seeding is messing up.  I have checked on portforward.com and I have seen my router and the instructions listed there.  My problem is that I dont know which ports to forward and to where.
[06:25] <robert00> yes i did, but i am not very good doing that, i only did make
[06:25] <hmw> kitchenrange: that depends on the client you use. You will have better chances on answers, if you search the web for something like "<mytorrentprogram> port forward howto"
[06:25] <robert00> hmw yes i did, but i am not very good doing that, i only did make
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> I installed a file from source that I downloaded through the ubuntu packages page because it couldn't be downloaded through apt or synaptic.  However, now apt and synaptic don't recognize that it's there when I try to download a program that needs it....any workarounds, or do I probably need to install everything else manually as well?
[06:25] <kitchenrange> k thx hmw
[06:26] <hmw> robert00: you will likely have to use ./configure before that. Let me find a tutorial for you...
[06:27] <Scunizi> Geoffrey2: if it wasn't a .deb then the package manager hasn't logged it.. if you had to download it that way then you got it from a repo not designed for your install. or a repo that you haven't enabled.
[06:27] <hmw> robert00: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html
[06:28] <hmw> robert00: pls pastebin README and INSTALL
[06:28] <krammer_> k3b froze on my desktop and i tried to use force quit and other ways to get rid of this
[06:28] <Geoffrey2> Scunizi, I got the file from packages.ubuntu.com....I couldn't download it because I kept getting a 404 Not Found error every time apt tried to fetch it, the repo is definitely enabled
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> the file is libpq-dev
[06:29] <Scunizi> Geoffrey2: then maybe the mirror you're using is having issues.. synaptic can look for a faster one automatically if you look in it's' menu
[06:30] <mopoyo> OMG
[06:30] <mopoyo> i just installed a game for ubuntu AND NOW ITS NOT HERE
[06:30] <Cryonisis> Hi, I'm back. I deleted the empty partition leaving the 40gb space but it gave me the same error when trying to read the partitions during start up.  Here is the exact text it had:      Warning: Device /dev/sde has a logical sector size of 2048.  Not all parts of GNU Parted support this at the moment, and the working code is HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL. <Go Back> <Continue>
[06:30] <jakedp> was wondering what happened to the xorgconfig utility in ubuntu 8.10?
[06:31] <krammer_> k3b froze on my desktop and i tried to use force quit are there any other ways to get rid of this
[06:31] <mopoyo> !!!!!!!!!!!11
[06:31] <jakedp> xkill krammer
[06:31] <Scunizi> Cryonisis: can you delete the partition using the partition editor built into the live cd?
[06:31] <hmw> Cryonisis: that makes sense. Usually, a sector is 4 times bigger. How did it get formatted that way? what kind of drive is it?
[06:31] <lstarnes> mopoyo: which game did you install?
[06:31] <krammer_> jakedp, how do i do that?
[06:32] <mopoyo> lstarnes, i don't remember!!! but shouldn't it be in games?
[06:32] <Geoffrey2> Scunizi, where do I look it Synaptic for that option>
[06:32] <lstarnes> mopoyo: it may depend on what it was
[06:32] <mopoyo> lstarnes, it was a shooting game
[06:32] <lstarnes> mopoyo: nexuiz?
[06:32] <mopoyo> lstarnes, and now KDE doesn't even work
[06:32] <jakedp> open a terminal or Alt-F2 and type xkill, when your cursor changes to an X click on the frozen app
[06:32] <Scunizi> Geoffrey2: sorry I don't remember off the top of my head.. I'm in a console right now with no gui
[06:33] <Cryonisis> Scunizi: Is there a partition manager on the live cd? if so, how to I use it/access it's interface/command list?
[06:33] <Scunizi> Cryonisis: system/admin/partiton editor
[06:33] <robert00> hmw  README http://pastebin.com/d7a173d4f INSTALL http://pastebin.com/d383fcd66
[06:33] <hmw> krammer_: press ALT-F2 and type xkill. then click the window, you want to kill
[06:33] <lstarnes> mopoyo: which version of ubuntu is it?
[06:33] <mopoyo> lstarnes, 8.10
[06:34] <mopoyo> i just did an apt-get update and updated all my progs!! now it won't load my kubuntu session
[06:34] <krammer_> still there
[06:34] <legato-bluessome> hi
[06:34] <legato-bluessome> hola
[06:34] <kaiser105> hi, everyone!
[06:34] <legato-bluessome> speak spanish
[06:34] <jakedp> krammer the cursor changed to an X?
[06:34] <lstarnes> mopoyo: apt-get update won't update anything but the package database.  to actually upgrade the packages, use apt-get upgrade
[06:34] <krammer_> yes
[06:35] <hmw> robert00: the readme says: "just do >>make<< and then >>make install<<". You just issued "make", as you said. Now try "make install" to get the newly created stuff moved to its right location on your file system.
[06:35] <legato-bluessome> ok
[06:35] <dsmith_> !info mono
[06:35] <lstarnes> !es | legato-bluessome
[06:35] <legato-bluessome> una pregunta simple
[06:35] <jakedp> strange xkill has never not killed an x app on me
[06:35] <legato-bluessome> ok
[06:35] <Geoffrey2> Scunizi, ah, found it....
[06:35] <legato-bluessome> thank's
[06:35] <hmw> jakedp: it just happened here, too. Had to do it a second time to get the terminal killed... strange
[06:35] <krammer_> usually forcequit takes care it
[06:35] <Scunizi> Geoffrey2: just takes some searching..
[06:35] <mopoyo> lstarnes,  i went into aptitude or watever!! and upgraded everything
[06:36] <Cryonisis> hmw: according to windows the disc is a 186gb HDD with 40gb free space. the remainder is taken up with a windows non system partition that has some games on it.
[06:36] <krammer_> i just reboot thanks
[06:36] <jakedp> krammer open a terminal and type top and look for k3b, it will have a number on the far left and press k and return then the number and return then 9 and return
[06:36] <hmw> Cryonisis: it is a normal IDE or SATA drive?
[06:36] <legato-bluessome> #kubuntu-es
[06:36] <krammer_> pk
[06:36] <robert00> hmw  make install http://pastebin.com/d522624a
[06:37] <mopoyo> how do i start kde!!!!!!!!!!
[06:37] <leo> hi i have onboard ati hd3300 graphics, by using fglrx driver provided by ubuntu 9.04 beta, my sys is not stable.... can i use the driver provided by amd on their website ?
[06:37] <Cryonisis> hmw: just confirmed it, 200gb Seagate SATA HDD
[06:38] <krammer_> jakedp, k3b is not showing
[06:38] <leo> hi i have onboard ati hd3300 graphics, by using fglrx driver provided by ubuntu 9.04 beta, my sys is not stable.... can i use the driver provided by amd on their website ?
[06:38] <kaiser105> anybody know the key combination to see the cube with compiz activated ?
[06:38] <Scunizi> leo /join #ubuntu+1 for 9.04 assistance thanks
[06:38] <jakedp> k then try ps -aux | grep k3b in a terminal, note number then kill -9 and the number
[06:39] <hmw> robert00: if you look into that output, you will see "permission denied". I am not confident about what I suggest now: Do it as root (sudo make install), but only, if you wouldnt mind messing up your system. If your system is important, seek help elsewhere (e.g. at the website of the programmers, mailing list or such)
[06:39] <lstarnes> mopoyo: if you're using kubuntu, it should normally work when logging normally
[06:39] <jakedp> the 9 means kill right away
[06:39] <mopoyo> lstarnes, an error message popped up and now im on gnome!!
[06:39] <lstarnes> mopoyo: what was the error?
[06:39] <leo> thanks
[06:39] <mopoyo> i don't remember :<
[06:40] <jakedp> anybody remember the text based xserver utility xorgconfig? was wondering if it got renamed or dleeted in ubuntu 8.10
[06:40] <robert00> hmw  u mean i can broke my system?
[06:41] <hmw> robert00: anything you do as root is potentially putting your system at risk. As you are trying to install a kernel module, i think, it should be ok and even neccecary to do it as root. But I am not 100% sure. Chances of real damaging your sys are low in my opinion.
[06:41] <jakedp> and why does ubuntu have no decent x resolution config gui?
[06:41] <jakedp> or xorgconfig, very miffed about this
[06:42] <hmw> jakedp: because everybody keeps complaining about this fact instead of writing a better one. Welcome to the Free Open Source World *g*
[06:42] <mopoyo> HELP
[06:42] <Scunizi> jakedp: the x subsystem has been changed in the last release or so to randr.. xrandr helps configure but it's cli
[06:42] <Cryonisis> could my problem be caused by one of the other 2 HDD's i have in the machine? (1 x 240gb IDE and 1 x 160gb SATA which is the system drive)
[06:42] <robert00> hmw  i did with sudo and start copying and that but then say go out from directory /home/carlos/Descargas/v4l-dvb-dba0b6fae413/v4l
[06:42] <jakedp> xorgconfig is part of standard x distro why is it not in ubuntu?
[06:43] <jakedp> oh thanks Scunizi
[06:43] <hmw> Cryonisis: i doubt that. The sector size is defined, when the drive is formatted. If i am not mistaken, sector size is global for all partitions on that disk. Some strange program must have decided to use such small sectors. I am puzzled.
[06:43] <hmw> robert00: pls rephrase that
[06:43] <widad> tukkkkkkkkkkkyyyyy
[06:44] <hmw> Cryonisis: maybe you can delete the partition with gparted and creat it anew.
[06:44] <SunnyDP> how come the ubuntu updates downloads both linux-headers and linux-headers generic?
[06:44] <jakedp> *throws hands in air* why why can i not have my xorgconfig, i spent the time writing x*.config by hand why punish me?
[06:44] <mopoyo> lstarnes, the error message:
[06:44] <mopoyo> FUCK
[06:44] <tsimpson> SunnyDP: those are called meta-packages
[06:44] <mopoyo> i can't copy and paste
[06:44] <tsimpson> !language | mopoyo
[06:44] <Scunizi> jakedp: what kind of card do you have?
[06:44] <lstarnes> SunnyDP: linux-headers is a dummy package that automatically depends on the newest headers
[06:45] <mopoyo> it said something about not being able to find the KDE session
[06:45] <hmw> robert00: i didnt understand your last message
[06:45] <jakedp> sis integrated
[06:45] <tsimpson> SunnyDP: linux-headers depends on linux-headers-generic, which in turn depends on the latest headers for the kernel
[06:45] <PF> I'm a PC
[06:45] <Cryonisis> hmw: how do I do that? all i know is that i booted off the disc and got a menu with a few options and dont think a partition manager was one of them. there was one to check memery and the install disc and 3 others i think
[06:45] <jakedp> stuck at 1024x768 rs on a 17" CRT
[06:45] <Scunizi> jakedp: sis is a pain.. I'll see if there is a link for you
[06:45] <Scunizi> !sis | jakedp
[06:45] <PF> hehehe, that commerical killZ me
[06:45] <Scunizi> !resolution | jakedp
[06:46] <Scunizi> jakedp: you can still mess with xorg.conf.. it's there at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:46] <ubuntu21> I was hoping someone could walk me through a crosscompilation setup. I am looking to build an arm toolchain, can I get some help with this? Thanks!
[06:46] <SunnyDP> tsimpson: ok, so when updating the kernel manually from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29/ what files will i need to download ?
[06:46] <jakedp> don' t work tried that, my dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver does not bring the dialogue to change resolutions
[06:47] <robert00> hmw  ihttp://pastebin.com/d5b60c317
[06:47] <hmw> Cryonisis: when the install program asks you on how to partition, select "custom" (or similar. meaning "manual", "for experts"). You will get a screen that allows you to delete and create partitions. Delete it, create it again, make sure you select "format" and assign "ext3" and mount point "/"
[06:47] <Scunizi> jakedp: I mean manually entering what's needed.. check the link and also google for "sis ubuntu".. I'm sure that ubuntuforums.org has info too
[06:47] <robert00> la linda
[06:47] <SunnyDP> By the way, looks like v2.6.30-rc1/09-Apr-2009 01:40    finally made it to ubuntu stable
[06:48] <jakedp> was hoping to avoid xorg.conf don' t like writing them by hand no more, novelty wore off
[06:48] <ubuntu21> Any help on building an arm toolchain?
[06:48] <Scunizi> jakedp: it's usually just a couple of tweeks..
[06:48] <hmw> robert00: "se sale del directorio" means "leave the directory", or what does it say? It looks like it worked, and tried to delete the dir, but you were blocking it, since you were still in that dir.
[06:49] <jakedp> thanks for help folks
[06:49] <hmw> robert00: maybe its now time to try using that software. At least, i didnt see an ERROR
[06:49] <mopoyo> SOMEONE PLZ
[06:49] <Cryonisis> hmw: it doesn't ask me to partition. I select install, it asks my language, then my location, then it detects my network, then asks for a computer name and then after that it start to detect the partitions and that is when it pops up with the message. do i need to change one of the settings with the F2 - F6 keys before starting the install?
[06:49] <tsimpson> SunnyDP: if you just want the kernel, then linux-image-2.6.29-020629-generic_2.6.29-020629_<arch>.deb
[06:50] <SunnyDP> tsimpson: thanks
[06:50] <tsimpson> you only need the headers if you want to compile modules for the kernel
[06:50] <robert00> hmw  yes leave directory i think is an error, well thats not an error?
[06:51] <hmw> Cryonisis: i dont know. maybe SOMEONE ELSE IN THIS CHANNEL can help you with this... never had a hd with 2KB sectors. You could delete the complete hard drive and format it normally, but i wouldnt even know, how you should do that
[06:51] <colton_> I've forgotten my system's password, how do I reset it?
[06:51] <hmw> robert00: it would say ERROR: ... if it was an error, usually.
[06:51] <_Brun0_> Just installed ubuntu 8.10 alternative in command-line. Then I apt-get xorg icewm. I can start IceWM with "startx" but I get no mouse or keyboard. How can I make ubuntu recognize my mouse/keyboard?
[06:52] <mopoyo> this is the error message i'm getting
[06:52] <tsimpson> colton_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[06:52] <mopoyo> /usr/bin/startkde not found
[06:52] <colton_> danke
[06:53] <_Brun0_> whats the command to check what is mounted in my usb? like the mouse? what do I need to use usb mouse in ubuntu?
[06:53] <hmw> _Brun0_ lsusb
[06:53] <mopoyo> /usr/bin/startkde not found
[06:53] <ubuntu21> Looking to build an arm toolchain, can I get help?
[06:53] <mopoyo> /usr/bin/startkde not found
[06:53] <mopoyo> lstarnes,
[06:53] <FloodBot2> mopoyo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <_Brun0_> hmw: is there a way that i can put this chat to background and try that? i'm in commandline
[06:54] <lstarnes> mopoyo: this may be a long shot, but try running sudo apt-get reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[06:54] <mopoyo> invalid operation reinstall
[06:54] <hmw> ubuntu21: maybe the linuxfromscratch.org people can help you (they have their own IRC). Some of them use ARMs...
[06:54] <lstarnes> mopoyo: oops. replace apt-get with aptitude in that command
[06:55] <hmw> _Brun0_ if youre on the console (no graphics), you can use ALT-F1, ALT-F2... ALT-F6 to switch to different consoles. If youre in a terminal _window_, just press SHIFT-CTRL-T
[06:55] <_Brun0_> hmw: is there a way to put this x ir client (weechat) to background then restore it? (like alt+tab but in x)
[06:56] <lstarnes> _Brun0_: you could try screen
[06:56] <mattgyver83> I changed the mount point of a device and now when i try to mount it i recieve: Cannot Mount volume, is there a way that i can change the mountpoint back to a null value?
[06:56] <_Brun0_> hmw: i'm in console.. i have no working wm yet. i want to setup icewm.. but it cant recognize keybaord or mouse.. 1 sec i'll try the lsusb command
[06:56] <hmw> _Brun0_ i dont know. But this will do: press CTRL-ALT-F1 to leave the x window system. log in, try it and then use CTRL-ALT-F7 to go back
[06:56] <mopoyo> lstarnes, now KDE isn't even in the session list!
[06:57] <lstarnes> mopoyo: that's very odd.  I don't think I've ever heard of this happening before
[06:58] <alexbobp> Are there any documented procedures for installing ubuntu in a chroot?
[06:58] <_Brun0_> hmw: good news! lsusb shows a line with: Microsoft Basic Optiocal Mouse (thats my mouse). Any hint on how to setup it with xorg? Mouse is not working in IceWM.
[06:58] <Wavesonics> thanks all!
[06:59] <hmw> _Brun0_ i know to little about X. please ask someone else or google.
[06:59] <fogus> is there a remote desktop for ubutnu that works with the efficiency of windows remote desktop protocol?  I have yet to see something like VNC compete with terminal services in terms of speed, but I'm willing to give anything a go.
[06:59] <gopogo> any idea how to set mac based acces in  wgr 614
[06:59] <mopoyo> man?!!!!!!!1
[06:59] <mopoyo> how do i reinstall ubuntu from the very beginnign~!!!!!
[06:59] <_Brun0_> hmw: dunno why but I did CTRL+ALT+F3 then i started icewm from there and mouse worked! WOOOHOOOOO! ty for your attention.
[06:59] <mopoyo> lstarnes,  i'm going to kill you
[07:00] <lstarnes> mopoyo: I didn't do anything
[07:00] <mopoyo> say that again
[07:00] <_Brun0_> hmw: brb with icewm+xchat =P
[07:00] <mopoyo> i dare u
[07:00]  * mopoyo rams lstarnes against the wall
[07:00] <kop> mopoyo, better to blame it on the evil penguins
[07:00] <hmw> _Brun0_ hmm... would be cool to find out, what happened. maybe it was just a delay. i had delays after plugging in usb mice, too.
[07:01] <mopoyo> windows is so much better than linux
[07:01] <kop> mopoyo, name on way
[07:01] <lstarnes> mopoyo: then you may go back to it.  The issue you had rarely happens
[07:01] <fogus> mopoyo: what's your gripe?
[07:01] <alexbobp> why has mopoyo not been banned yet XD
[07:01] <alexbobp> well anyways I found a page on my issue, thanks #ubuntu
[07:02] <hmw> mopoyo: why are you using linux, then?
[07:02] <mopoyo> my uni is forcing me
[07:02] <hmw> mopoyo: see, linux is a box of lego bricks. You can do many creative things with it. Windows is more like the porsche, but it will always have the same color. Do you want to drive fast or to try new things?
[07:03] <hmw> mopoyo: dont complain about a lego car to be slower than a porsche.
[07:03] <mattgyver83> i just changed the mount point to my usb storage, i think it has a space it in, either case i cant mount it now, is there a way to fix the mount point?
[07:03] <fogus> hmw: I hope you aren't serious
[07:03] <mopoyo> hmw, linux has too many problems
[07:03] <bazhang> mopoyo, stop
[07:04] <kop> mopoyo, I have yet to encounter a I386 that ubuntu will not install on eventually and only one amd64 that gave problems
[07:04] <fogus> kop: mopoyo is not worried about installing it
[07:04] <fogus> at least that's what I'm getting out of this
[07:04] <hmw> fogus mopoyo: it was a metaphor of course. My XP is twice as fast as jaunty. I love linux, because its WAY MORE secure than windows. My xp crashes less often. My Xp doesnt let me work as efficiently as linux. It all depends on what you want to do.
[07:05] <kop> bazhang, there is the entertainment value even though it's quickly waning
[07:05] <lalillo> hmw im robert00 i start my system with the card plugged in and say is not any dec¿vice i  unplugged and my system freeze and now is more time to load it how can i do? uninstall or what
[07:06] <_Brun0_> hmw, I'm in xchat under icewm! Its a fresh ubuntu alternate install. This is what I call robust desktop lol. Thanks for your attenion.
[07:06] <hmw> lalillo: hmm... uninstalling is _sometimes_ possible with make. ask make, what it can do: make --help
[07:06] <hmw> _Brun0_ youre welcome
[07:06] <mopoyo> guys... how do i reinstall ubuntu! i just want to start over!!!!11
[07:07] <_Brun0_> is there any chance that lsusb "activated" my usb mouse?
[07:07] <hmw> _Brun0_ i doubt it, but i dont know
[07:07] <_Brun0_> hmw, hmm
[07:07] <fogus> hmw: in what way is linux more secure than xp?
[07:07] <lalillo> hmw well first ill wait i have now 167 new updates since i install drivers
[07:07] <hmw> fogus: afaik, there are only 2 viruses for linux
[07:07] <_Brun0_> mopoyo, don't rush.. backup your data first, specially in /home/_username_/
[07:08] <hmw> fogus: its almost impossible to get trojans and spyware with linux (at least compared to windows)
[07:08] <kop> while I'm here ~ nvidia has me stuck at 640x480 with any driver is this the right place to ask for help or ...
[07:08] <_Brun0_> fogus, linux don't have virus
[07:08] <mopoyo> oops nearly forgot all my assignments are on here! thx _Brun0_
[07:08] <clarence> How to protect our data when it's transfer
[07:08] <_Brun0_> fogus, linux have true native file permissions
[07:08] <fogus> hmw: is it more secure because it is attacked by fewer viruses?
[07:09] <kop> fogus, that is closer to the truth
[07:09] <hmw> fogus: 1) fewer people use linux, therefore virus programmers dont focus on it so much. 2) linux is constructed in a way, that makes it VERY difficult to write a working virus
[07:10] <mopoyo> ok! so how do i reinstall ubuntu?!
[07:10] <fogus> hmw: then my home is more secure than an armed US patrol.  bad measure of security
[07:10] <kop> haw rootkits and browser jacks are another story
[07:10] <hmw> fogus: replace VERY with VERY VERY VERY (= almost IMPOSSIBLE)
[07:10] <_Brun0_> yea hmw is right. and linux distro varies alot so viruses cannot infect "linux" at all.
[07:11] <bazhang> lets take security talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:11] <mopoyo> STOP IGNORING ME
[07:11] <bazhang> mopoyo, lose the caps
[07:11] <clarence> ﻿mopoyo: restart the computer an boot from cd
[07:11] <mopoyo> it's cool how you reply when i type in caps but not when i ask a question
[07:12] <_Brun0_> mopoyo, when you talk to someone, put their name in the message... preferably in the beginning of it so the person can know who you're talking to.
[07:12] <bazhang> mopoyo, back up files; boot from installer (live cd)
[07:12] <fogus> mopoyo: what course are you taking with your university that it forces you to use linux as a main OS and not a virtual machine?
[07:12] <g4lt-lappy> did mopoyo say something?  I was ignoring them
[07:12] <lstarnes> g4lt-lappy: that kind of behavior is not constructive
[07:12] <kop> g4lt-lappy, who ?
[07:13] <mopoyo> what's a virtual machine?
[07:13] <Gnea> mopoyo: reinstall ubuntu the same way you installed it: pop the cd in, boot it up, click a lot
[07:13] <bazhang> fogus, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:13] <mopoyo> i just have to learn how to use linux.. that's all so i can use the cse machines at uni
[07:13] <bazhang> !vm > mopoyo
[07:13] <g4lt-lappy> lstarnes, and somehow mopoyo's is?
[07:13] <Aval0n> does ubuntu 8.10 run a firewall by default?
[07:13] <Gnea> mopoyo: like vmware or virtualbox - it's basically a computer that runs inside of your computer
[07:13] <lstarnes> g4lt-lappy: two wrongs don't make a right
[07:13] <clarence> In Linux, how to protect our data when it's transfer?
[07:13] <hmw> fogus: this channel is very busy. We should try reduce unneeded chat here. Lets talk in offtopic
[07:13] <Gnea> Aval0n: no, but it comes with firewall software
[07:14] <Aval0n> k
[07:14] <Aval0n> ty
[07:14] <lstarnes> Aval0n: it runs iptables and ufw.  By default I think they have no rules set
[07:14] <_Brun0_> Aval0n, no. mine is off. You can check the message about it at boot (or shutdown, cant remember)
[07:14] <g4lt-lappy> lstarnes, when you actually handle the first wrong, talk to me
[07:14] <Aval0n> thnx
[07:14] <Gnea> !firewall | Aval0n
[07:14] <lstarnes> clarence: it depends on the method of transfer
[07:14] <fogus> mopoyo: meet me in offtopic. hmw, understood.
[07:14] <Aval0n> I"m trying to get eggdrop to run
[07:14] <Aval0n> but it never connects
[07:14] <Aval0n> I have the config done right
[07:15] <Aval0n> but it never shows in netstat
[07:15] <mopoyo> ok i'm going to boot into my live cd
[07:15] <Gnea> Aval0n: might want to check in #eggdrop
[07:15] <Aval0n> not sure what the heck the issue is now
[07:15] <clarence> method of transfer
[07:15] <Aval0n> gnea: did
[07:15] <Aval0n> they have been idle for ever
[07:15] <Aval0n> :)
[07:15] <clarence> ﻿method of transfer?'
[07:15] <Gnea> heh
[07:15] <mopoyo> thx for ur help guys
[07:15] <lstarnes> clarence: the way in thich the data is being transferred
[07:16] <Gnea> Aval0n: well, it's basically an unattended irc client, so as long as your config file is setup right, it should connect... iirc, you can set the debuggin rate to spew a lot of informative messages to help you troubleshoot the problems
[07:16] <Gnea> *debugging
[07:16] <clarence> ﻿lstarnes: thanks
[07:17] <lstarnes> clarence: different ways require different protection
[07:17] <clarence> I see
[07:17] <Aval0n> yeah
[07:17] <Aval0n> not sure why it never connects
[07:18] <clarence> I think irssi is more convinience than pidgin
[07:19] <clarence> what means?
[07:20] <g4lt-lappy> clarence, pidgin is a catch-all proram, irssi is IRC specific
[07:20] <tomcyl> hi, all
[07:21] <tomcyl> anyone know how do i  get my RAR file password?
[07:21] <clarence> crack it
[07:21] <tomcyl> software?
[07:21] <clarence> yes
[07:21] <SunnyDP> tomcyl: you are lucky , a new rar cracker just came out
[07:21] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, nontrivially.  best way is to get it from who rar'd it in the first place
[07:21] <tomcyl> which?
[07:22] <SunnyDP> tomcyl: go check on forge
[07:22] <xipi> hi
[07:22] <xipi> i need to backup my system
[07:22] <xipi> would tar cf be ok?
[07:23] <SunnyDP> tomcyl: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-crack-rar-7z-and-zip-files-with.html
[07:23] <SunnyDP> xipi: what is "cf" for ?
[07:24] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: crack rar password, you can use ﻿advanced rar password recovery
[07:24] <Nom-> Hey Guys... this might be a bit off topic, but I was wondering if anyone has a script handy which will create an rrd graph for a gigabit network card?  I've got one which I think is configured for 100Mbps, but it seems to be dropping the data beause there's so much data going out
[07:24] <sliverchair> can I disable the audio port at the back of my pc? Alsa Mixer can disable the head phone w/c is at at the Front Panel audio port
[07:24] <xipi> SunnyDP: i thought for archive creation. am i mistaken?
[07:25] <quantum> hi there
[07:25] <tomcyl> use ﻿advanced rar password recovery takes too long
[07:25] <tomcyl> rarcrack ok?
[07:25] <SunnyDP> xipi: not sure myself, that's why i asked
[07:25] <quantum> n kubuntu 8.10 what utility can I use to view system information about hardware
[07:25] <quantum> ?
[07:25] <clarence> yes
[07:25] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: yes
[07:26] <xipi> SunnyDP: it seems, as if i should study a bit more
[07:26] <SunnyDP> xipi: yes :D
[07:26] <tomcyl> fcrackzip or rarcrack?
[07:26] <SunnyDP> xipi: go to www.ryos.org and grab the backup episode
[07:26] <clarence> ﻿advanced rar password recovery, rar crack
[07:27] <nascentmind> hi is there any application to check cpu temperatures in kde?
[07:27] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: ﻿advanced rar password recovery, rar crack
[07:28] <naguri> can't install the testdisk-6.10
 ﻿advanced rar password recovery? where i can get it?
[07:28] <naguri> can't install the testdisk-6.10
[07:29] <xipi> SunnyDP: Thank you. I will have a look
[07:29] <ManateeLazyCat> Why program "notify-send" can't work in Ubuntu 8.10? It can work in Debian.
[07:29] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: go to google, and type ﻿advanced rar password recovery
[07:29] <holyguyver> How do you in the cammandline restart pulseaudio?
[07:30] <ziroday> holyguyver: pulseaudio -k and then pulseaudio -D
[07:30] <holyguyver> Thank you
[07:30] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: what about it doesn't work?
[07:30] <ManateeLazyCat> When i use "notify-send" send string, and nothing to popup. Is a bug?
[07:30] <yasasvy> nascentmind: ktemperature
[07:30] <tomcyl> clarence , that it for windows,  takes too long to crack
[07:30] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: "notify-send" can't popup window
[07:31] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: is it installed? ...
[07:31] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: It can't popup, but can popup window in Debian. I don't know why? You can make "notify-send" popup window.
[07:31] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Of course
[07:31] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: libnotify-bin
[07:31] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: is notification-daemon installed?
[07:32] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: if so, is that process running?
[07:32] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Yep
[07:32] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: maybe  your password is very difficult to crack
[07:32] <tomcyl> maybe
[07:33] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: What do you mean with "is that process running"? "notify-send" just work when notification-daemon running?
[07:34] <tomcyl> g4lt-lappy, what you mean by "best way is to get it from who rar'd it in the first place" ?
[07:34] <nascentmind> yasasvy, my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty. why is that?
[07:34] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: you have a last way to solve this problem
[07:34] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: dbus is supposed to spawn it
[07:34] <tomcyl> what is ?
[07:35] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: take the file to winxp
[07:35] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: and download the﻿ advanced rar password recovery
[07:35] <g4lt-lappy> tomaw, meaning that the password isn there to prevent unauthorized access.  if you don't know th e password, by definition, you're unauthorized.  if you rar'd it yourself, my suggestion is to use a decent compression like bzip or gzip
[07:35] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, ^^^^^
[07:35] <tomcyl> i did try
[07:36] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Simple, can you give me all the steps that make "notify-send" work in Ubuntu 8.10, i install Ubuntu use alternative CD, need others configure? Thanks
[07:36] <clarence> be paitient
[07:36] <clarence> be patient
[07:37] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: it works out of the box, so we have to figure out why it's not working
[07:37] <crdlb> there are no "steps"
[07:37] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: In Debian, just install "libnotify-send", everything is okay, i don't know why Ubuntu can't
[07:37] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: do you get any errors from notify-send "foo" in a terminal, if so, pastebin it
[07:37] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Nothing
[07:38] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: have you checked if notification-daemon is running?
[07:39] <testABC44> I setup a mobile connection in network manager for my ATT card... how do I tell it to connect?
[07:39] <tomcyl> thanks <g4lt-lappy> i will try
[07:40] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I haven't process running that name is notification-daemon even i have install it.
[07:40] <ziroday> testABC44: try go on the internet?
[07:40] <g4lt-lappy> testABC44, click on the nm-applet in the upper right, select the ATT connection from the dropdown
[07:40] <testABC44> hmmm
[07:40] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: then run /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon in a terminal
[07:41] <taz_> hi...  i would like to know which one  best webcam ?/
[07:41] <testABC44> g4lt-lappy:  there is no att in teh dropdown.. but there is when I go to edit connections
[07:41] <Nytrix> how do i upgrade my openoffice to 3.0?
[07:42] <crdlb> !ooo > Nytrix
[07:43] <testABC44> g4lt-lappy: ???
[07:43] <tsLight> how can I know how long I have been connected to the internet (DSL)?
[07:44] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl: go to http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/01/06/how-to-recover-rar-7z-and-zip-password-with-rarcrack-in-linux/
[07:44] <tomcyl> k
[07:44] <clarence> ﻿taz_: and support linux?
[07:44] <tomcyl> k
[07:44] <clarence> ﻿tomcyl:?
[07:45] <tomcyl> i going to
[07:45] <Marius> hi
[07:45] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I did it, still can't work
[07:45] <g4lt-lappy> testABC44, try left-clinck.  "edit connections" is in the right-click menu
[07:45] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: it didn't error out?
[07:45] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Have a process running that named "notification-da"
[07:46] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Yep, nothing
[07:46] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: pastebin the output of 'dpkg -L notification-daemon'
[07:46] <taz_> clearence: yes support linux
[07:46] <a81u64_usr> does ubuntu support ms-dos flopps?
[07:46] <testABC44> g4lt-lappy:  I did the edit and added the ATT under the mobile connections.. however there does not seem to be a place to actually tell it to connect....
[07:46] <clarence> ﻿taz_: google best webcam
[07:47] <taz_> clearence:  what model and name of webcam?
[07:47] <clarence> ﻿a81u64_usr: yes
[07:47]  * ManateeLazyCat pasted "dpkg -L notification-daemon" at http://paste2.org/get/181301
[07:47] <g4lt-lappy> testABC44, not from the right-click menu, no.  try standard, or left-click
[07:47] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: See  above
[07:47] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me mount my CD/DVD drive
[07:47] <Marius> a81u64_usr i guess you just need to mount the floppy drive somewhere
[07:48] <clarence> ﻿ taz_: ﻿ google linux webcam
[07:48] <tomcyl> what is it mean? "  fcrackzip -v -b -p aaaa -u cuda_dxtc.pdf.zip
[07:48] <tomcyl> found file 'cuda_dxtc.pdf', (size cp/uc 244965/294438, flags 9, chk a5d3)
[07:48] <tomcyl> checking pw rUt~ "???
[07:48] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me mount my CD/DVD drive
[07:48] <a81u64_usr> mount says mount point does not exist.
[07:48] <testABC44> g4lt-lappy:  left click shows the wireless netowrks in the area.. but not the ATT that I added
[07:48] <g4lt-lappy> tomaw, pdf files aren't rar
[07:49] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: is this a gnome desktop?
[07:49] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Yes, in GNOME
[07:49] <clarence> ﻿taz_: go to http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html
[07:49] <testABC441> g4lt-lappy:  oops.. did I miss wha tyou said?
[07:49] <g4lt-lappy> testABC44, it has headers, wired, wireless, mobile.  if it isn't in the mobile part, you still have soemthing wrong
[07:49] <a81u64_usr> fstab does nothing
[07:50] <tsLight> how can I know how long I have been connected to the internet (DSL)?
[07:50] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, pdf files have very little to do with rar
[07:50] <Aval0n> ubuntu 8.10 doesnt have anything setup to limit background processes does it?
[07:50] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: does 'echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS' give some long string containing unix:abstract?
 what you mean, i cannot crack RAR file?
[07:51] <g4lt-lappy> tsai1, you can see when you connected from /var/oog/daemon.log, then do math?
[07:51] <clarence> ﻿ tomcyl: doid you  found the way  to solve?
[07:51] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, a pdf file isn't a rar file
[07:51] <clarence> ﻿ tomcyl:in that site?
[07:51] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-uCqHg3UD4p,guid=63a3353c694b3ab0bb4da8bd49de88b3
[07:51] <ManateeLazyCat>  
[07:51] <g4lt-lappy> clarence, did you actually look at what he said?  turns out he's not even looking at a rar file
[07:52] <a81u64_usr> is there anything i can do??
[07:52] <clarence> oh sorry
[07:53] <tomcyl> i am trying crack rar make by myself
[07:53] <ArmyKid92> woot
[07:53] <g4lt-lappy> tomaw, what is the filename you're trying to unrar?
[07:53] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, ^^^
[07:54] <tomcyl> i try diffrent software
[07:54] <tomcyl> tompic.rar
[07:54] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, ahh, and hte contents are the pdf file?  ahh
[07:54] <ArmyKid92> okay, so is there a way to get the interface of a Mac on Ubuntu? i looked it up on google and didnt get a clear answer.. =/
[07:54] <ziroday> ArmyKid92: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin
[07:55] <_Brun0_> How can I know which clipboard daemon i'm running? Here is ubuntu 8.10 alternat command-line install with IceWM.
[07:55] <tomcyl> i dont think contents are the pdf
[07:55] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: I have no idea what's wrong; do you get any notifications? eg from a music player on song change
[07:55] <clearscreen> is there any way to open gnome-terminal in the center of my screen by default?
[07:56] <ArmyKid92> ziroday, thanks.
[07:56] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I'm not install music player, and this problem looks so strange
[07:57] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, that's what your rarcrack output implied
[07:57] <tomcyl> all photos
[07:58] <fore> .
[07:58] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: It can works in your computer?
[07:58] <mopoyo> OK I reinstalled ubuntu
[07:59] <_Brun0_> How can I know which clipboard app/daemon i'm running? It's not gnome's one.
[07:59] <tomcyl> fcrackzip always tells me i  "No such file or directory
[07:59] <tomcyl> Segmentation fault
[07:59] <tomcyl> "
[07:59] <_Brun0_> mopoyo, nice
[07:59] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, my next question is why in the name of all that's holy did you use rar of all things?  especially if you're prone to forgetting passwords.  rar is the least useful option in that case
[07:59] <mopoyo> argh
[07:59] <mopoyo> how can i make xchat remember the window size
[08:00] <Neremor> hello!
[08:01] <clarence> ﻿ Neremor: hi
[08:01] <_Brun0_> mopoyo, just tested and xchat auto rememebrs window pos.. mine is axmized anyway.
[08:01] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: it works for everyone else, run: dbus-monitor --profile 'interface=org.freedesktop.Notifications'
[08:02] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: you should see a line printed when you use notify-send message in another terminal
[08:02] <Neremor> I'm searching for an application to manage my music library. I don't need a media player, for that I'm using songbird. What i need is an application that automatically sorts my music for artists, albums, tracks and singles with a pattern given by me... Something like itunes does... Does anyone know something like this? Thank you in advance :)
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[08:02] <g4lt-lappy> Neremor, I've had good luck with cowbell
[08:03] <a81u64_usr> whats going on in this channel??
[08:03] <clearscreen> !ubuntu | a81u64_usr
[08:04] <slashdotfx> anyone has a clue how to disable ipv6 support in 9.04?
[08:04] <slashdotfx> i've tried the wiki, but it's not working
[08:04] <clarence> Installed on(in) linux = open source software ?
[08:04] <Neremor> it looks nive, i will give it a try, g4lt-lappy!
[08:04] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Still nothing, i don't know why. I create a new user fot test, to check whether some configre break it.
[08:05] <clearscreen> clarence: what?
[08:05] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: nothing was printed in the dbus-monitor terminal?
[08:06] <g4lt-lappy> slashdotfx, should just be some ifconfig magic, I think the v6 stack is builtin to the kernel though, so dumping the stack will be problematic
[08:06] <clarence> ﻿clearscreen: installed on linux software must be open source ?
[08:06] <mne> Hi. I have a thinkpad x61 with ubuntu intrepid on it. I also have an internal bluetooth adapter which is attached over the USB bus. However, using "lsusb" it does not show up anymore which is also the reason why I can't use bluetooth at the moment. Does anyone else have a problem like that ?
[08:06] <and_> sweet! is this a support channel?
[08:06] <clearscreen> clarence: not neccessarily, although most software on linux -is- open source
[08:07] <mopoyo> One thing about ubuntu... If you want to reinstall a program you have to redownload it!... Why can't I just save it somewhere and reinstall?
[08:07] <shux> Hello again :)
[08:07] <shux> I have a codec question please
[08:07] <slashdotfx> g4lt-lappy: is the same issues with ipv6 in slow browsing resolved in jaunty?
[08:07] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: When i run "dbus-monitor mprofile 'interface=org.freedesktop.Notifications'", i got error: "Failed to setup match "mprofile": Match rule has a key with no subsequent '=' character"
[08:07] <g4lt-lappy> slashdotfx, jaunty is #ubuntu+1 still
[08:08] <mopoyo> ubuntu is too internet dependent!!!
[08:08] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: it's --profile, not mprofile
[08:08] <clearscreen> mopoyo: you can save a .deb file perfectly fine, also, aptitude stores downloaded packages in a cache... can you be more specific?
[08:08] <g4lt-lappy> will be thorugh most of this month
[08:08] <TechHead> morning
[08:08] <mopoyo> clearscreen, for example i just installed vlc... and i have to reinstall all these packages........
[08:08] <mopoyo> altogether it's around 75MB
[08:09] <clarence> ﻿clearscreen: because lots of people think installed software are open source,  so install software must be open source
[08:09] <shux> I'm fumbling in the dark here...but here goes anyway
[08:09] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I'm not going to save every .deb file...
[08:09] <shux> I d/loaded a codec package of sorts
[08:09] <clearscreen> clarence: no clue what you're saying... most software is indeed open-source, but it is entirely possibled to install closed-source software
[08:09] <shux> essential-20071007.tar.bz2
[08:10] <shux> i gzipped it
[08:10] <BiosElement> mopoyo, I don't mean to ask a stupid question but why do you need vlc to begin with? If you feel it's too much work you could probably just use totem.
[08:10] <and_> can anyone help me mount floppy ?
[08:10] <and_> pretty please?
[08:10] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I create a new user, and test then "notify-send" can work, looks have some configre file make it break.
[08:10] <g4lt-lappy> shubuntu_, with an extensionof .bz2, no, you didn't gzip it, you bzipped it
[08:10] <g4lt-lappy> shux ^^^^^
[08:11] <shux> vlc shows a dvd that Ubuntu 8.10 failed to recognize previously
[08:11] <clearscreen> mopoyo: apt stores previously downloaded packages in cache
[08:11] <shux> but now when I click to play it returns to the desktop?
[08:11] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Sorry for noise, i will check my HOME directory to find where the problem.
[08:11] <and_> how can i be sure its not a hardware fault, if its not in the file system?
[08:11] <tsLight> what is a .bundle file? I want to download and install VMware Player and there is no .tar.gz download, just rpm and .bundle
[08:11] <clearscreen> mopoyo: and really.. how often do you reinstall software? what is the point?
[08:12] <mopoyo> BiosElement, totem asks me to install codecs
[08:12] <g4lt-lappy> shux if it's a video DVD, of course.  video DVDs, like audio CDs, don' mount
[08:12] <clearscreen> tsLight: you can just execute it with sh
[08:12] <tsLight> clearscreen, ok
[08:12] <mopoyo> clearscreen, where is this cache?
[08:12] <clearscreen> tsLight: chmod +x filename.bundle && sh filename.bundle
[08:13] <Neremor> hm cowbell seems to have a bit less features like i expected... do you know any others?
[08:13] <clearscreen> mopoyo: /var/cache/apt afaik
[08:13] <clarence> do you upgrade ubuntu by update manager?
[08:13] <clearscreen> ./var/cache/apt/archives
[08:13] <tsLight> clearscreen, yeah I knew that :P I just wanted to know what .bundle file is
[08:13] <mopoyo> how long does it get stored there?
[08:14] <clearscreen> not entirely sure, you'd have to look that up
[08:14] <clearscreen> clarence: you can, but there are several ways to upgrade :)
[08:14] <shux> But nothing showed b4...now it does! pure luck on my part I know...but now that I have a gui on the dvd..the program (vlc) closes when I choose the "Play" option...any ideas?
[08:14] <purvesh> any know how 2 know pc mac address in terminal
[08:15] <clearscreen> purvesh: ifconfig
[08:15] <tsLight> is there a way to upgrade from Ubuntu 32 bits to 64 bits without reinstalling everything (or without losing settings and installed applications)? sort of "dist-upgrade" :P
[08:16] <clearscreen> tsLight: is probably possible, but highly discouraged
[08:16] <newbie75> ciao
[08:16] <clarence> ﻿clearscreen:  at last time, I was using ubuntu when it upgrade,  at last it was upgrade failed, what happen?
[08:16] <newbie75> !list
[08:16] <clearscreen> clarence: no way to tell without a specific error message
[08:16] <BiosElement> tsLight, I'd recommend you just do a re-install. Backup your /home/username folder and you shouldn't lose many/any of your configs.
[08:17] <userli> 人？？
[08:17] <userli> ／／／／
[08:18] <tsLight> ok
[08:18] <shux> I cp'd from /media/cdrom0 2 my home folder and and chmod'd with u+x in the shell and now the DVD is mysteriously showing up...but exits whenever I try to play it???
[08:18] <and_> can anyone tell my why mount point does not exist?
[08:19] <BonezAU> hi all, I have just created a new ext4 partition, added it to my /etc/fstab and mounted it, but it seems to be writable only by root. What do I need to do in order to have it writable by anyone who uses the system? I have an NTFS partition which allows any user on the system to read/write to it
[08:19] <clearscreen> and_: because you havent created it? lol
[08:19] <aquataine> and_ : they're not added
[08:19] <shux> I need some codec detective program from the repos...please help
[08:19] <loquitus_of_borg> What's an easy way to extract a given directory out of a huge tar file?
[08:19] <loquitus_of_borg> like say the /var/games directory
[08:19] <loquitus_of_borg> that is inside the tar
[08:20] <loquitus_of_borg> tarball
[08:20] <SoS11> how can I force xorg to use 1280x800@70 ... so far it only uses 1280x800@60
[08:21] <shux> Hey guys..like 4 weeks ago I knew squat...I'm trying my beat to tesearch...thx:)
[08:21] <shux> I still suck at typing and spellin lol
[08:21] <crdlb> SoS11: 60Hz is perfectly normal with an LCD
[08:21] <mopoyo> is there any way to sort the updates?
[08:22] <ninadsp> BonezAU: have you tried the or users option in fstab?
[08:22] <mopoyo> clearscreen, is there any way to sort the ubuntu upgrades?
[08:22] <BonezAU> ninadsp, no... but my ntfs-3g partition does not use them either, it just has defaults 0 0
[08:22] <purvesh> any know how 2 connect wireless connection
[08:22] <clearscreen> mopoyo: what?
[08:22] <mopoyo> clearscreen, is there any way to sort the ubuntu upgrades?
[08:23] <ninadsp> BonezAU: defaults includes user if i am remember correctly... i guess you have tried to remount it?
[08:23] <ninadsp> with sudo?
[08:23] <SoS11> crdlb, I have some minor problems with a game if I use SyncToVblank...I think that refresh rate could be a problem
[08:23] <BonezAU> ninadsp, yeah I've tried to remount it. should I try rebooting and see what happens?
[08:23] <ninadsp> BonezAU: hey... defaults doesnt include user
[08:24] <mopoyo> clearscreen, it says "There are 287 updates available" so I click on the arrow and it opens the update manager... I want to sort it by size!
[08:24] <ninadsp> BonezAU: check man mount
[08:24] <BonezAU> ok ill check it out
[08:24] <BonezAU> thanks
[08:24] <ninadsp> hope it helps... :)
[08:24] <clearscreen> mopoyo: are you on 56K or something?
[08:25] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I'm on 24mpbs :)
[08:25] <shux> I'll hit some forums and get back to you later with some ideas....goodnight folks :)
[08:25] <kieroXP_ayuda> hola a todos
[08:25] <clearscreen> mopoyo: I don't see the problem then, upgrading is good.. and with that connection you'll have anything in less than 5 min :P
[08:26] <kieroXP_ayuda> quiero borrar el disco
[08:26] <_kyle_> hey guys....im trying to upgrade (sudo apt-get upgrade)but two programs are being held back...i have tried "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and nothing
[08:26] <clearscreen> !es | kieroXP_ayuda
[08:26] <kieroXP_ayuda> :O
[08:26] <mattgyver83> how can i force a drive to automatically mount on boot?
[08:26] <ninadsp> _kyle_ you can try with synaptic... that will tell you about the conflicts... you might have to manually sort them out
[08:26] <_kyle_> ok
[08:27] <_kyle_> thanks ninadsp
[08:27] <ninadsp> mattygyver83: does the fstab incluse the auto or defaults option for that drive?
[08:27] <hmw> mattgyver83: you have to put an entry to /etc/fstab ... if it is an NTFS drive, apt-get the ntfs-config tool, make4s it very easy
[08:27] <ninadsp> _kyle_ np! :)
[08:27] <mattgyver83> hmw, its an ext2 ';(
[08:27] <Leonheart> Wht up?
[08:28] <purvesh> clearscreen: do u know how 2 know ssid or bssid.
[08:28] <_kyle_> i cant wait for ubuntu 9.04
[08:28] <hmw> mattgyver83: still no problem. find a howto, google for something like "automount ubuntu". shouldnt be too hard.
[08:28] <Leonheart> Did new ubuntu just fixed nvidia problem?
[08:28] <ninadsp> mattygyver83: then check the /etc/fstab entry for that drive... :) if it does not have teh defaults option, you can add that or the auto option
[08:29] <clearscreen> purvesh: if you mean the bssid/essid you are currently associated with (wireless), then you can use 'iwconfig' :)
[08:29] <ninadsp> mattgyver83: do check man mount and man fstab
[08:29] <purvesh> clearscreen: to connect wireless connection go gear
[08:29] <hmw> i mean that fstab thingy isnt too hard. You can of course read the man page and think on your own *g*
[08:29] <purvesh> clearscreen: thanks
[08:29] <ninadsp> hmw: i agree :)
[08:29] <clearscreen> purvesh: you can also use 'iwconfig' to set essid/bssid, but it's much easier to do it through gnome network tools
[08:30] <hmw> ninadsp: i actially found a man page with EXAMPLES. Miracles happen!
[08:30] <mopoyo> clearscreen, the problem is i'm on a cap
[08:30] <kepi> what's better between ext4 and btrfs?
[08:30] <purvesh> clearscreen: ok but what i'll set dhcp client id
[08:31] <clearscreen> mopoyo: I'm so glad all ISP's in the netherlands maintain a fair-use-policy... As to your question, I'm not sure if it is even possible to sort on size :(
[08:31] <Leonheart> Is someone already test nvidia 9100M G driver on x64 with ubuntu 9.04?
[08:31] <clearscreen> !jaunty | Leonheart
[08:32] <mopoyo> is there another way to upgrade ubuntu?
[08:32] <Leonheart> BAD!!
[08:32] <clearscreen> mopoyo: through apt, although that will even give you less information :P
[08:33] <hmw> clearscreen: how about aptitude?
[08:33] <clearscreen> mopoyo: aptitude might give you
[08:33] <baz> i have 2 users on my ubuntu desktop: baz and adriana. I would like for adriana to be able to access certain folders in baz's home directory. So I changed all files in /home/baz to 770, then changed the permissions of the share folders so that "adriana" was the group... my question is why is adriana not able to access the folders she was given perm to?
[08:33] <clearscreen> hmw: meh, why so fast
[08:33] <Leonheart> !Joomla
[08:35] <hmw> baz: maybe perms on the dir itself?
[08:36] <Leonheart> !Realbasic
[08:36] <Leonheart> !Realmadrid
[08:36] <mopoyo> how do i use aptitude -.-
[08:37] <purvesh> clearscreen: pls say me if u konw what i'll set dhcp client id
[08:39] <mopoyo> fuck
[08:40] <atera9> ass
[08:40] <Leonheart> Poor bot
[08:40] <atera9> is it supposed to auto kick
[08:41] <mopoyo> aaaaaaaargh
[08:41] <mopoyo> why can't i get the driver for my 8800GT
[08:42] <atera9> howcome i didn't get kicked? ass, tittys
[08:42] <mopoyo> the nvidia site only gives drivers for windows!!!!!
[08:42] <atera9> mopoyo thats not true
[08:43] <mopoyo> atera9,  dig yourself a hole
[08:43] <atera9> mopoyo nvidia has had linux drivers for a loooong time
[08:43] <atera9> although theyre closed source
[08:43] <whyamisonuts> morning, what is the more reasonable mount option~ for a desktopsystem with ext4: noatime or relatime?
[08:44] <Kruxer> I've got a update "Nvidia-180-modaliases" but i haven't got nvidia VGA?what's wrong?
[08:44] <Kruxer> should I install it?
[08:44] <clarence> hello! I'm back
[08:44] <_fynn> how can i mount a *.mdf file in ubuntu?
[08:44] <mopoyo> atera9, i downloaded the linux 32 bit driver.. how do i install it?
[08:44] <pahom> we happy 8)
[08:45] <atera9> mopoyo, /etc/init.d/stop gdm
[08:45] <atera9> then run the file from the command line
[08:45] <Kruxer> /etc/init.d/gdm stop ;)
[08:45] <crdlb> Kruxer: it just tells the hardware driver manager what chips are supported by the nvidia 180 driver
[08:45] <whyamisonuts> lol
[08:45] <crdlb> so it's harmless
[08:45] <atera9> haha kruxer, do what kruxer said mopoyo
[08:45] <Kruxer> crdlb, tnx
[08:45] <Kruxer> atera9, ;)
[08:45] <mopoyo> atera9,  do what you said or him?
[08:46] <clarence> ﻿mopoyo:I have the same problem too
[08:46] <atera9> what he said
[08:46] <atera9> mine command was transposed at the end
[08:46] <mopoyo> where do i learn all of this stuff?
[08:46] <mopoyo> i want to be able to do it myself next time
[08:46] <atera9> mopoyo the instructions are on the nvidia website, where the driver is
[08:47] <jussi01> !wiki | mopoyo
[08:47] <Surlent777> hi; does anyone know if it's possible for root to log a user out, say, over an SSH connection?
[08:47] <clarence> ﻿mopoyo: google
[08:47] <pahom> _fynn: use AcetoneISO
[08:48] <mopoyo> i hate it when people just say google
[08:48] <mopoyo> it's so stupid
[08:48] <atera9> whats stupid is not using it
[08:48] <mopoyo> sure but not everything can be just solved by saying "google"
[08:48] <atera9> they only say that when the information is readily and easily attainable by simply googling, like in your case "ubuntu install invidia"
[08:48] <bluTaz> Ctrl+S
[08:48] <mopoyo> not everyone is good at using google
[08:49] <nztal> i am installing ubuntu on a computer with older hardware.  that computer has a not so large hard drive, 20gb.  i want it to have a seperate /home partition as well as a / and swap.  since its there isn't much space, what size should / and /home be ?
[08:49] <ZeZu> nztal, that really depends on your configuration
[08:49] <ZeZu> how much will you put in /home ?
[08:49] <aquataine> nztal: it depends on your need
[08:50] <atera9> older computer, you should use xubuntu
[08:50] <mopoyo> dam now my 8 series is now at the bottom :(!!!!!
[08:50] <nztal> what is the smallest i can get by with the / partition ?  without running out of space
[08:50] <mopoyo> there's a 200 series now~!!! and it looks so cool
[08:50] <clarence> ﻿mopoyo: ok
[08:50] <Surlent777> does anyone know if it's possible for root to log a user out, say, over an SSH connection?
[08:50] <mopoyo> could anyone give me an estimate of how much faster the 200 series is compared to my 8800 ?
[08:51] <Surlent777> mopoyo: Unless you have XP/Vista/7 for gaming, what use is an amazingly overpowered card, if you don't mind my asking?
[08:51] <ninadsp> Surlent777: if nothing else works, you can try a restart of sshd... there has to be a better way though...
[08:52] <Surlent777> ninadsp: I figure that it would be a useful thing to be able to log out lazy/ignorant users before their parallel X sessions crowd out your poor laptop's RAM =/
[08:52] <atera9> where are all the ops? piss, boobs, anus
[08:52] <mopoyo> Surlent777, it looks cooler :)
[08:52] <atera9> 1341 people and not one op paying attention, blood belching vagina
[08:52] <Surlent777> mopoyo: What does? Just the name?
[08:52] <xy|ox> nztal, / shouldnt be smaller than 5 gb
[08:52] <ninadsp> Surlent777: there is a package that allows for a time out of sessions...
[08:52] <FrozenFood> Hi, all, I have a strange problem with samba. my smb.conf file has no shares in it, but im able to browse old shares i set up
[08:52] <jeezmos> Hello.  I'm trying to disable the animation for minimizing windows (it's like a border of the window that shrinks as it moves down to the task bar), but I can't find where to do that.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[08:53] <ninadsp> dont remember the name though.... search in synaptic
[08:53] <atera9> i usually dont quesiton automagic functionality
[08:53] <atera9> titty sprinkles
[08:53] <Surlent777> ninadsp: I'm actually trying to do it because I suspect that on my 8.04 laptop, pulseaudio might somehow be affecting my ability to scare my brother with festival (can't open /dev/dsp)
[08:53] <mopoyo> "you appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing" -- how do I exit X?
[08:53] <atera9> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:53] <atera9> to exit x
[08:54] <Surlent777> jeezmos: System > Preferences > Compiz Configuration Settings Manager
[08:54] <mopoyo> I did that..
[08:54] <atera9> hmm, if you did it successfully it should have killed your GUI entirely
[08:54] <ninadsp> Surlent777: :D try check out timeoutd package in synaptic... thats what i was saying...
[08:54] <atera9> anus monster poopy dick
[08:54] <Surlent777> ninadsp: noted...can you give me a brief synopsis of it's use?
[08:54] <atera9> where are the ops?
[08:54] <ninadsp> Srlent777: don't know how to do that... do let me know... :)
[08:55] <jeezmos> Surlent777: I have Compiz turned off.
[08:55] <ninadsp> Surlent777: apt-cache show timeoutd on teh command line will give you what you want.. :)
[08:55] <ninadsp> s/teh/the
[08:55] <sejo> how to configure services in runsv (like git-daemon to use another folder)
[08:55] <atera9> crap filled vagina
[08:55] <atera9> fuckadoodle-do
[08:55] <sejo> atera language
[08:56] <atera9> where are the ops?
[08:56] <g4lt-lappy> atera9, not rising to your bait?
[08:56] <atera9> i have been (poop dick) saying nasty things and im not getting kicked
[08:56] <Surlent777> jeezmos: I don't believe that you can edit that animation in Metacity
[08:56] <g4lt-lappy> baz, sure, make me a liar ;P
[08:57] <branesks> Hello ubuntu people. I murdered my databases and this aptitude program will not uninstall postgres install mysql. How can I fix that?
[08:57] <branesks> Or install and uninstall either...
[08:57] <expresado> Hi, could someone tell me if ubuntu will find my HDD if i format it. Problem: my MB bios doesnt support SATA 2, until now i had windows+ some sata2 update burned on 1 dvd. So will ubuntu work with that ?
[08:58] <baz> g4lt-lappy, ?
[08:59] <Surlent777> I have played too much ADOM/read too much Order Of The Stick...these people joining are showing up as Cyan, and I'm tired enough to think of them as named Ogre Mages Oo
[08:59] <g4lt-lappy> baz, autocomplete error, sorry
[08:59] <mopoyo> WTH
[08:59] <mopoyo> WTH
[08:59] <mopoyo> who told me to type that?!!!!!!
[09:00] <mopoyo> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:00] <Surlent777> heh
[09:00] <mopoyo> u trying to screw my computer up or something
[09:00] <Surlent777> well, it's working now, ja?
[09:00] <mopoyo> i typed stuff and nothing happened
[09:00] <Boohbah> mopoyo: why are you getting so upset? just type /etc/init.d/gdm start to start it up again.
[09:00] <mopoyo> so i had to reboot
[09:00] <Surlent777> so don't worry about it...remember it and use it to scare someone else =)
[09:01] <kandinski> what scare? It's a useful command
[09:01] <mopoyo> umm... it's not off
[09:01] <kandinski> mopoyo: and you should never type stuff into your computer that you don't understand beforehand what it will do
[09:01] <kandinski> mopoyo: what problem do you have, what are you trying to do?
[09:01] <mopoyo> I'm trying to stop X
[09:02] <Surlent777> kandinski: Everything unexpected is scary to a novice =P It's part of the thrill of learning an OS of this complexity
[09:02] <jeezmos> Surlent777: thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I didn't realize it was Metacity ... googling with that found the key (gconf key, to be exact). :)  I appreciate your help.
[09:02] <Surlent777> jeezmos: wait wait what
[09:02] <Surlent777> jeezmos: you CAN turn that off?
[09:02] <mopoyo> Surlent777, how do i  close X
[09:02] <kandinski> mopoyo: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" stops x
[09:03] <Surlent777> mopoyo: What do you need to do that for, exactly? What are you trying to do?
[09:03] <kandinski> you will be asked for your user's password
[09:03] <mopoyo> kandinski, yeh but then i get a black screen.. I type commands, press enter and nothing happens
[09:03] <mopoyo> kandinski, it never asked me for my password
[09:03] <kandinski> then type alt+ctrl+f1 to go to the first tty
[09:03] <jeezmos> Surlent777: yes, just did with success.  search for keys "reduced_resources" and desktop > gnome > interface > "enable animations"
[09:03] <kandinski> mopoyo: are you on the livedistro? Were you logged in as root?
[09:04] <Surlent777> jeezmos: ohhhhhh ok. I was going to suggest the former, but thought against it. I forgot about the latter key
[09:04] <kandinski> in any case, ctrl-alt-f1 takes you to a tty
[09:04] <kandinski> you can log in there into a command line interface
[09:04] <mopoyo> wow
[09:04] <mopoyo> why don't they write that on the screen or something
[09:05] <and_> it didnt work :(
[09:05] <mopoyo> i was just typing in commands and nothing happened
[09:05] <kandinski> well
[09:05] <kepi> am gone
[09:05] <grawity> mopoyo: and you didn't notice there's nowhere to type commands?
[09:05] <Surlent777> kandinski: On an unrelated note, would the tty normally be 800x600, or what? Without the framebuffer turned on, I mean...I use 8x6 when that's on, this is just for the sake of curiosity/completeness
[09:05] <mopoyo> ANYWAY
[09:06] <mopoyo> how can i send a file from my computer to another computer that is connected through a router
[09:06] <kandinski> Surlent777: fuck me if I know! I am a newbie myself. Just trying to be helpful to those less clued in...
[09:06] <Surlent777> mopoyo: I did that by setting up SSH
[09:06] <Surlent777> kandinski: k, just checking
[09:06] <mopoyo> Surlent777, do both computers need to be running ubuntu?
[09:06] <Surlent777> mopoyo: no, you can use puTTY on Windows
[09:07] <mopoyo> -.-
[09:07] <guja> Is there still not any Skype plug in for Pidgin which can activate Skype account without running Skype at same time?
[09:07] <Surlent777> mopoyo: as they say, just google it. You need to have ssh-server or something close to that installed on any ubuntu computers, though, I think
[09:07] <grawity> guja: No - and I don't think it's possible to write one.
[09:08] <guja> grawity, thanks for the answer.
[09:08] <grawity> guja: Skype authors tried really hard to prevent anyone from writing compatible software :(
[09:08] <Surlent777> mopoyo: And then there's something about public keys that I don't quite get =( I personally just set up my firewalls to allow only each other on port 22 and deny all others. Sorry I can't be more helpful than that
[09:08] <guja> Loosers :-/
[09:08] <mopoyo> but on windows you can just create a network and then send stuff to each other
[09:08] <Surlent777> mopoyo: Oh, and if your router'd computers are using Windows and have their network crap set up right, you should be able to use Samba inside of Nautilus to access them
[09:08] <mopoyo> omg windows can be so much better sometimes :<
[09:09] <Surlent777> mopoyo: see above
[09:09] <Surlent777> mopoyo: It should just be able to pick them up under their usual name, such as WORKGROUP or MYHOME or whatever you call it
[09:09] <mopoyo> I want to send a file from this computer (ubuntu) to another one (windows)
[09:09] <Surlent777> mopoyo: Again, see above there
[09:10] <mopoyo> lol got it
[09:10] <mopoyo> thx Surlent777
[09:10] <kandinski> mopoyo: install ssd on the ubuntu one
[09:10] <Surlent777> mopoyo: no problem
[09:10] <kandinski> install winscp on the windows one
[09:11] <mopoyo> nvm kandinski i got it
[09:11] <mopoyo> i didn't even have to install anything
[09:11] <kandinski> on the windows one, using winscp, open the ubuntu computer's IP
[09:11] <kandinski> browse, etc
[09:11] <kandinski> oh, you are 1337
[09:13] <Surlent777> So, if your computer is working fine, and then upon reboot  randomly goes OH HEY GUYS MY HARD DRIVE IS GONNA WIG OUT ON YOU, LOG YOU IN AS ROOT, AND MAKE YOU RUN FSCK AND PRESS Y A LOT, is that necessarily a sign of a faulty hard drive, or is it likely to be a random glitch?
[09:13] <purvesh> clearscreen: i tried iwconfig but this error come " no wireless extensions"
[09:14] <g4lt-lappy> Surlent777, depends on the frequency
[09:14] <Surlent777> g4lt-lappy: So far, just once
[09:14] <g4lt-lappy> once, it's just a glitch, a few times a year, still a glitch, a few times a week, you might wnat to look into gettin a new disk
[09:14] <Surlent777> g4lt-lappy: OK, that's about what I figured, thanks
[09:15] <CyberCr33p> does someone know what virtualbox version does the  ubuntu 9.04 include?
[09:15] <g4lt-lappy> cyb3rv10, I'm sure that #ubuntu+1 does
[09:15] <g4lt-lappy> CyberCr33p, ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[09:16] <CyberCr33p> thanks
[09:16] <magnetron> CyberCr33p→ support for beta versions in #ubuntu+1 only
[09:17] <cyb3rv10> g4lt-lappy, just wonder who called me..
[09:17] <TheNano> CyberCr33p: I don't know , but if you want to have USB support then you will need to add their official repo in your source.list
[09:18] <g4lt-lappy> cyb3rv10, the ghost of missed tab-completes summons you! ;P
[09:18] <cyb3rv10> g4lt-lappy: LOL
[09:22] <mopoyo> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME LEARN UBUNTU
[09:23] <ikt> MAYBE
[09:23] <grawity> mopoyo: If you stop shouting.
[09:23] <jpds> !caps | mopoyo
[09:24] <mopoyo> can someone please help me learn ubuntu
[09:24] <g4lt-lappy> mopoyo, the short answer is when you start to play nice, more people will actually care what you're asking about
[09:24] <mopoyo> ok
[09:24] <mopoyo> i'm sorry
[09:24] <mopoyo> my behaviour has been very inappropriate and i will now endeavour to change it
[09:24] <aldin> mopoyo, you must say what you want to learn
[09:25] <mopoyo> aldin, terminal commands and stuff
[09:26] <purvesh_> how 2 configure wireless connection hav 2 set ssid or bssid at ubuntu.
[09:26] <jpds> !cli | mopoyo
[09:26] <sejo> where to go for help on hardy?
[09:26] <PC_Nerd1> Hi,  does anyone here know how to get a wallpaper that shows the current "sunlight" over the earth?  I haven't been able to find anything.
[09:27] <aldin> mopoyo, terminal commands are not ubuntu specific, you can use them on any linux distribution, so the right question you want to learn BASH, go to google and type bash commands
[09:27] <Downing> Mhh... how do I make the microphone work (-:
[09:27] <mopoyo> what does bash mean?
[09:28] <aldin> mopoyo, wikipedia.org and type bash
[09:28] <mopoyo> rude
[09:29] <aldin> mopoyo, no, look, i would have to quote you result from wikipedi, why should i do it if you can yourself, we are here to guide you to not go far from answer
[09:29] <sejo> someone knows why this happens on hardy? python-pgsql: Depends: python-egenix-mxdatetime (>= 1.3.0-5) but it is not installable
[09:29] <aldin> mopoyo, Bash is a free software Unix shell written for the GNU Project. Its name is an acronym which stands for Bourne-again shell.[1]
[09:29] <Downing> So ehm I'd like to record some stuff, but the microhpone which is connected doesn't seem to work - since there's no sound when I recird - nor the level bar "moves"
[09:29] <purvesh_> how 2 configure wireless connection hav 2 set ssid or bssid at ubuntu.
[09:30] <mopoyo> ok sorry aldin
[09:30] <do1mps> XChat - i need for Connecting my Server another user than the Linux-User actually logged in. Does anybody know how to tell xchat the user for Connecting to the new Server i created?
[09:31] <purvesh_> any 1 know how 2 configure wireless connection hav 2 set ssid or bssid at ubuntu.
[09:32] <aldin> mopoyo, np, key for success is to know how to find answers, and not go round the globe for it, best sources for FAQs are google and wikipedia, you can ask them all, and if you have something specific you can ask here, why should we google it for you, right?
[09:32] <aldin> mopoyo, no hard feelings sorry if i was a bit "tough"
[09:33] <reid> yo
[09:33] <reid> whats up guys
[09:34] <reid> mater: yo whats up
[09:34] <purvesh_> reid: any 1 know how 2 configure wireless connection hav 2 set ssid or bssid at ubuntu.
[09:34] <reid> purvesh_: well, what do you mean
[09:35] <reid> purvesh_: within GUI?
[09:35] <TechHead> my wireless connects only with 1MB/sec in Ubuntu in Windows I got full 54, anyone can tell me why?
[09:35] <purvesh_> gnome
[09:35] <reid> purvesh_: nm-applet should be able to take care of that
[09:35] <purvesh_> reid: what command i hav type at terminal for ssid or bssid
[09:35] <reid> TechHead: nm-applet says that I am only connected at 1 MB/s as well, however im getting much higher speeds
[09:36] <leaphion> problem with installing ubuntu jaunty via pen drive on my hard drive. I installed it with unetbootin on my pen drive and I manage to boot it to the installer. but when in installer it says it "cannot mount the installation CD". what goes wrong?
[09:36] <purvesh_> reid: for wireless connection
[09:36] <reid> TechHead: you will never reach a whole 54, windows is lying
[09:36] <mopoyo> aldin, you are very smart
[09:36] <TechHead> ahhh, kk, so never trust a reading, better test yourself ;D
[09:36] <imachine> TechHead, it doesn't matter that much does it
[09:36] <reid> TechHead: correct, nm-applet is very often wrong
[09:36] <imachine> try with iwconfig and see what it says
[09:36] <snake98> hi
[09:36] <ubuntu05> hi
[09:36] <imachine> other than that, it usually settles after a while if you have weak signal
[09:36] <purvesh_> reid: pls help me i'm new at ubuntu linux
[09:37] <reid> purvesh_: as for wireless connection, you shouldn't have to manually configure bssid or ssid
[09:37] <imachine> so it climbs from 6 to 11 to 18 to 24 mbps
[09:37] <g4lt-lappy> leaphion, jaunty -> #ubuntu+1
[09:37] <TechHead> well I am sitting right next to the WLAN router
[09:37] <purvesh_> reid: but how
[09:37] <TechHead> signal should not degrade that much
[09:37] <reid> purvesh_: it should be easily configured through the gnome wireless, nm-applet.  it should appear in your bar on the top right of gnome
[09:37] <imachine> TechHead, it could be oversteered.
[09:37] <snake98> any one can help me to how setup sound card in my ubuntu plz
[09:37] <imachine> TechHead, but yes, it should "just work"
[09:37] <aldin> mopoyo, thanks, btw. you are very wise
[09:37] <imachine> TechHead, see with "iwconfig"
[09:38] <TechHead> trying as we speak
[09:38] <Downing> woop got the mic to work now how do I increase its level
[09:38] <ectospasm> snake98: it's not autodetected?
[09:38] <purvesh_> reid: i tried but there i hav 2 fill bssid or ssid or mac address
[09:38] <reid> TechHead: try torrenting something, if it is acceptable speeds than you are most likely fine
[09:38] <TechHead> iwconfig actually reports the same
[09:38] <snake98> yes sectospas
[09:38] <imachine> TechHead, ideal 802.11b/g signal is ~-60dBm
[09:38] <TechHead> sec
[09:38] <imachine> TechHead, what type of card?
[09:38] <reid> purvesh_: do you know what card?
[09:38] <g4lt-lappy> Downing, see the little speaker in the upper right corner of your display?  right-click, open volume control, you get the full mixer with mic level settings
[09:38] <TechHead>  Link Quality=40/100  Signal level:-69 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
[09:39] <snake98> ceative
[09:39] <ectospasm> snake98: normally there's no "setup" involved then, "it... just... works..."
[09:39] <purvesh_> reid: which card
[09:39] <Downing> tha
[09:39] <reid> purvesh_: do you know what wireless card your computer has in it
[09:39] <snake98> im new user for ubuntu ectospas
[09:39] <do1mps> XChat - i need for Connecting my Server another user than the Linux-User actually logged in. Does anybody know how to tell xchat the user for Connecting to the new Server i created?
[09:39] <mopoyo> why does music sound better on ubuntu than windows
[09:39] <ectospasm> snake98: have you checked your mixer settings?
[09:39] <reid> purvesh_: and are you connected via wireless atm?   or a wired connection
[09:39] <snake98> yes i do but its not working with me
[09:39] <purvesh_> reid: i dont how 2 know what  wifi
[09:40] <imachine> TechHead, if it's relatively new, you can encounter issues with the card since it might not supply proper info.
[09:40] <TechHead> imachine: 08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[09:40] <imachine> TechHead, ath9k ?
[09:40] <ectospasm> snake98: are you getting any error messages?  Or is sound just not playing?
[09:40] <purvesh_> reid: i hav 2 connect go gear router
[09:40] <TechHead> the laptop is rather new, yes
[09:40] <imachine> TechHead, did you install linux-backports-modules ?
[09:40] <mopoyo> why does music sound better on ubuntu than windows
[09:40] <imachine> TechHead, it features newer ath drivers, amongst other things.
[09:40] <imachine> might want to try that
[09:41] <ectospasm> mopoyo: you should probably take that question to #ubuntu-offtopic, since it's not a support question.
[09:41] <reid> mopoyo: its psychosomatic
[09:41] <TechHead> lol, imachine I am a total Linux beginner I installed Ubuntu 8.10 and just made all updates that's about it
[09:41] <reid> mopoyo: it probably doesn't sound better =P
[09:41] <snake98> yes thats right ectospasm its creative audigy  2 ZS
[09:41] <ectospasm> snake98: what's right?
[09:41] <imachine> TechHead, type in the terminal 'sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid'
[09:41] <snake98> can you tell me how to do step by step
[09:42] <imachine> TechHead, and pass your password.
[09:42] <Nitrox22> Xorg crashes whenever i boot ubuntu. Any solutions>
[09:42] <imachine> TechHead, it should install newer drivers for your card, amongst other things.
[09:42] <TechHead> imachine: gonna give it a shot
[09:42] <xnevermore> hey. do I need cron if I have anacron installed? or do they do different things?
[09:42] <TechHead> nice
[09:42] <TechHead> brb
[09:42] <snake98> i said its sound just not playing
[09:42] <ectospasm> snake98: there should be a speaker icon in your system tray, right-click on it and select mixer settings, or whatever it's called.
[09:42] <mopoyo> reid, it really does sound better
[09:42] <reid> Nitrox22: what graphics card are you using?
[09:42] <gatien> hi
[09:42] <Nitrox22> reid, I am using ubuntu in virtualbox
[09:43] <imachine> TechHead, tho, if it works as it does now, I don't think it's that big a deal.
[09:43] <purvesh_> TechHead: what command i hav type at terminal for ssid or bssid for wireless wifi connection at ubuntu
[09:43] <imachine> TechHead, don't come back if it breaks your system ;P
[09:43] <TechHead> hhahahaha
[09:43] <imachine> purvesh_, use networkmanager.
[09:43] <TechHead> I already d/l the stuff
[09:43] <gatien> I search a graphical tool to manage qos rule on ubuntu
[09:43] <reid> Nitrox22: im not familiar with virtualbox, it is a virtual machine?
[09:43] <TechHead> imachine: kk, done, what now?
[09:43] <Nitrox22> reid, yes
[09:43] <reid> Nitrox22: what OS are you running the VM from?
[09:43] <imachine> TechHead, type modinfo ath9k
[09:44] <Nitrox22> reid, Windows XP Pro SP3
[09:44] <purvesh_> imachine: i tried but they want bssid or ssid or mac address
[09:44] <imachine> TechHead, if you find info about nohwcrypt
[09:44] <imachine> TechHead, then you have the new drivers.
[09:44] <axsd9d> can anyone suggest a good translating tool for ubuntu( freespeak doesn't work)
[09:44] <imachine> TechHead, just need to reboot then and you'll use the newer ones.
[09:44] <imachine> TechHead, if you encounter problems like being unable toconnect to wifi,
[09:44] <reid> Nitrox22: well, personally I would do it the other way around.  Windows does not like linux very much
[09:44] <stiev3> I'm giving /home it's own partition, how much room should I allot / asuming I have 150 GB to work with?
[09:44] <TechHead> lol, so see you in a minute hopefully imachine
[09:45] <imachine> TechHead, just remove those drivers by typing: 'sudo apt-get purge linux-backports-modules-intrepid'
[09:45] <purvesh_> imachine: if u know then pls help me
[09:45] <TechHead> thx for the tip
[09:45] <reid> stiev3: root should never need more than 10G
[09:45] <reid> stiev3: it depends on how you handle /usr/bin
[09:45] <imachine> TechHead, it could be a bit more than just that package, like linux-backports-modules-yourkernelversion'
[09:45] <reid> stiev3: if you put full programs into /usr/bin you will need more space allocated to root
[09:45] <Nitrox22> reid, But my Ubuntu 8.10 was working fine. But the problem is with 9.04. I submitted my error report so it would help the developers
[09:45] <imachine> TechHead, you can just type in apt-get purge linux-backports-modules-[press TAB here] and it will autocomplete the package name
[09:46] <imachine> TechHead, but it should work okay!
[09:46] <reid> Nitrox22: jaunty is still very much in beta stage.  it uses x.org 1.6
[09:46] <tomcyl> hello all
[09:46] <reid> Nitrox22: I would suggest trying to VM intrepid instead
[09:46] <TechHead> kk, rebooting
[09:46] <imachine> purvesh_, I don't understan
[09:46] <TechHead> see you soon .... I hope :)
[09:46] <imachine> purvesh_, you need MAC of BSSID ?
[09:46] <imachine> purvesh_, you're connecting to a hidden-ssid network correct?
[09:46] <purvesh_> imachine: what i tried via applet at upper right side
[09:47] <Nitrox22> reid, I use that too. But i want to test the 9.04 and if i encounter bugs is it enought that i submit through the crash report?
[09:47] <ubuntu> da jia hao
[09:47] <reid> Nitrox22: is your graphics card ATI or nvidia
[09:47] <tomcyl> any one can tell me , how to use fcrackzip?
[09:47] <ubuntu> 大家好，，哈哈
[09:47] <purvesh_> imachine: i want 2 connect internet at laptop wifi
[09:48] <imachine> purvesh_, yes
[09:48] <reid> Nitrox22: ATI does not support x.org 1.6 currently, that is why im asking
[09:48] <imachine> purvesh_, go on
[09:48] <reid> Nitrox22: the support should come within the next 2 weeks, but you never know with ATI
[09:48] <Nitrox22> reid, My host machin has ATI Radeon X600 video card
[09:48] <tomcyl> i always get message said : " No such file or directory" ?
[09:48] <reid> Nitrox22: that is most likely why you are crashing
[09:48] <purvesh_> imachine: in ubuntu at there i hav 2 fill bssid ssid or mac adderess
[09:49] <imachine> yes
[09:49] <reid> Nitrox22: that card is definitely not supported by x.org 1.6 currently
[09:49] <tomcyl> my file is at my desktop
[09:49] <mrded> hi!
[09:49] <imachine> purvesh_, how else do you plan on connecting to a wireless network ?
[09:49] <reid> Nitrox22: 8.10 is the only way you will be able to run ubuntu properly
[09:49] <Nitrox22> reid, ah. will i get support for ATI when it is released?
[09:50] <blocky> okay somebody help me fix this apt error before i kill myself
[09:50] <purvesh_> imachine: bcz i hav wifi at laptop or i hav 2 connect via router
[09:50] <blocky> trying to install jaunty over top of 8.10 with update-manager -d
[09:50] <drowner> blocky: Lets not over dramatise
[09:50] <blocky> every time it fails on hash sum mismatch
[09:50] <tomcyl> any one can tell me , how to use fcrackzip? i always get message said : " No such file or directory" ?  my file is at my desktop.
[09:51] <imachine> purvesh_, 1) speak english
[09:51] <blocky> i know its not the mirror as ive tried several, and i know its not my isp proxy because my other PC right beside just performed the same update just fine
[09:51] <purvesh_> imachine: what
[09:51] <TechHead> imachine: I am back, sofar so good ;)
[09:51] <imachine> purvesh_, 2) make it clear for other people what you exactly want to do
[09:51] <imachine> TechHead, cheers ;) does it still say 1mbps? :P
[09:51] <magnetron> tomcyl→ did you type "cd Desktop" first?
[09:51] <blocky> what I don't get is why the error says canonical.com even when i change the mirror
[09:51] <TechHead> 54 ;)
[09:51] <imachine> if it does, you'll just have to wait till next kernel or wireless update ;)
[09:51] <imachine> TechHead, so mission accomplished I reckon? :)
[09:51] <tomcyl> let me try
[09:51] <purvesh_> imachine: ya what mistake done from me
[09:52] <blocky> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/partner/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[09:52] <TechHead> imachine: very much m8, thx a lot
[09:52] <blocky> anyone experienced this with upgrading?
[09:52] <imachine> TechHead, the new driver also supports hardware offloading of WPA/WPA2 if I remember correctly
[09:52] <imachine> TechHead, so it's all for the better.
[09:52] <imachine> TechHead, cheers
[09:52] <g4lt-lappy> blocky, jaunty is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[09:52] <TechHead> hehe, I got many more questions
[09:52] <blocky> oh
[09:52] <blocky> ty
[09:52] <reid> Nitrox22:  sry i was afk
[09:52] <reid> Nitrox22: what was your question?
[09:53] <imachine> TechHead, that's what this channel's for, mostly
[09:53] <reid> Nitrox22: oh ok.. yeah its possible, but ATI has been a little shifty on their driver releasees
[09:53] <purvesh_> imachine: so how do i know my laptop "ssid" what i have 2 type in terminal 2 know my "bssid" or "ssid" now perfect
[09:53] <reid> Nitrox22: I would not expect too much, but they have stated that they aim for x.org 1.6 support with their catalyst 9.4 release
[09:53] <Phobos> hey guys
[09:54] <Anniekhan> hello
[09:54] <imachine> purvesh_, nearly good, tho at least I understand you now. when you click the icon on the top panel in Ubuntu's default setup, a list of available networks rolls down.
[09:54] <Phobos> i wanna fix my problem
[09:54] <imachine> purvesh_, you just click one of those, and  that's the SSID. it connects automatically
[09:55] <imachine> purvesh_, SSID=network name.
[09:55] <Phobos> well my screen screwed up i dont know why
[09:55] <Phobos> iam using ubuntu 8.10
[09:55] <Phobos> in an hp laptop
[09:55] <Phobos> anyone could help me please ???
[09:55] <imachine> Phobos, define 'screwed up'
[09:56] <Phobos> my screen sparkles
[09:56] <imachine> great.
[09:56] <blocky> lol
[09:56] <reid> sounds magicall
[09:56] <imachine> :)
[09:56] <blocky> anybody familiar with the hash sum mismatch issue?
[09:56] <Nitrox22> reid, Thanks
[09:56] <imachine> Phobos, any better way to describe this unusual behaviour?
[09:56] <TechHead> imachine: now to some serious stuff ... well not serious but rather important to me
[09:56] <reid> Nitrox22: np, you have any other questions?
[09:56] <imachine> TechHead, shoot
[09:56] <TechHead> I play Enemy Territory a lot
[09:57] <imachine> TechHead, it should work without problems.
[09:57] <TechHead> it does not perfom at all on VISTA so I installed Ubuntu
[09:57] <imachine> TechHead, you can try getdeb.net
[09:57] <TechHead> so far so good
[09:57] <TechHead> BUT
[09:57] <TechHead> I got strange input  lags
[09:57] <Nitrox22> reid, Not now. May be later if i have any problems can i ask in this channel?
[09:57] <imachine> TechHead, there's ready made installers and other stuff available on that page for Ubuntu.
[09:57] <htrejh> TechHead: yeah getdeb is better, cuz manually you'll have to things manually to have sound
[09:57] <imachine> hmm
[09:57] <imachine> TechHead, dunno about that :-)
[09:57] <TechHead> kk
[09:57] <purvesh_> imachine: so i hav 2 blank that "ssid bssid" collum it will connect & what about "dhcp client id"
[09:57] <reid> Nitrox22: feel free to email me, reidnabinger@yahoo.com
[09:57] <TechHead> noone does ;D
[09:57] <TechHead> and actually it is not vital at all
[09:57] <htrejh> TechHead: basically you will have to execute a command to have sound
[09:58] <reid> Nitrox22: but other than that, alot of good people idle in this channel, and have good advice to give
[09:58] <imachine> TechHead, it could be sound related tho. lags in general.
[09:58] <TechHead> yes the echo cmd which enables OSS
[09:58] <imachine> TechHead, had that on other games.
[09:58] <imachine> it could be OSS that causes the hiccups.
[09:58] <imachine> try disabling it and see if it fixes your problem.
[09:58] <TechHead> so maybe I should try it w.o. sound then ?
, thanks
[09:58] <imachine> OSS is not grand.
[09:59] <magnetron> tomcyl→ cheers
[09:59] <TechHead> I know, but ALSA or pulse just don't work with ET
[09:59] <Nitrox22> reid, Great. I am newbie to linux just have 6 months of experience.
[09:59] <mopoyo> how do i learn about the terminal!??!
[09:59] <imachine> TechHead, I think there was some alsa-oss emulation or so, I used for savage.
[09:59] <magnetron> !terminal | mopoyo
[09:59] <TechHead> ohhh
[09:59] <imachine> TechHead, no idea of it's state in Ubuntu tho :-)
[09:59] <Phobos> when iam watchin some movies with mplayer or totem my screen sparkles
[09:59] <reid> Nitrox22: np, this is a great place to ask questions, but any ATI or Atheros wireless questions, feel free to e-mail me
[09:59] <Phobos> i dont know why
[09:59] <purvesh_> imachine: wait im comming in 2 minutes
[10:00] <mopoyo> magnetron, i mean more than the basics
[10:00] <TechHead> it is hard in general to get all components in a laptop to work properly
[10:00] <Phobos> i have the latest drivers installed
[10:00] <reid> Nitrox22: I've spent many weeks toiling over ATi drivers and atheros drivers lol
[10:00] <reid> TechHead: Amen
[10:00] <Phobos> my video card is an ati radeon
[10:00] <imachine> TechHead, or whether it's what you need
[10:00] <TechHead> for example the webcam runs perfect: sound is problematic
[10:00] <imachine> Phobos, sorry, I still don't understand what it means "sparkles".
[10:00] <Nitrox22> reid, great. Any idea of when they release ATI Catalyst drivers for ubuntu?
[10:00] <imachine> Phobos, you'll have to be more clear on the subject.
[10:01] <TechHead> Nitrox22: you can download drivers at AMD
[10:01] <reid> Nitrox22: I would have to say it will be about a week
[10:01] <imachine> TechHead, webcam audio is often horrors, since some of them use audio over usb.
[10:01] <reid> Nitrox22: 9.4 has been released for windows already
[10:01] <imachine> it sometimes works okay but sometimes causes headaches.
[10:01] <TechHead> Nitrox22: ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[10:01] <reid> Nitrox22: it normally takes AMD about a week to port them to linux
[10:02] <reid> Nitrox22: 9.4 is the first driver to support x.org 1.6 though, so I wouldn't expect amazing results
[10:02] <TechHead> this pkg gets you latest drivers of all ATI/AMD components in a comp like my laptop
[10:02] <imachine> Phobos, the last radeon card I had was 9200 or 9000.
[10:02] <reid> Nitrox22: it should fix your problem though
[10:02] <Nitrox22> reid, Can i install for my windows. I have ATI Radeon X600
[10:02] <imachine> Phobos, and that worked with 'radeon' opensource driver.
[10:02] <imachine> Phobos, so I do not know :-)
[10:02] <imachine> Phobos, also, stop pm'ing me please.
[10:02] <reid> Nitrox22: oh yeah, the ati drivers website should have the 9.4 drivers already for windows
[10:02] <reid> Nitrox22: I don't know though, I haven't used windows in years
[10:03] <imachine> Phobos, this channel is made so that people can benefit from people helping other people.
[10:03] <Phobos> what ?
[10:03] <TechHead> lol
[10:03] <imachine> Phobos, perhaphs someone else is having a problem like you do and they can read about it later on logs or so.
[10:03] <g4lt-lappy> !pm | Phobos
[10:03] <mopoyo> where can i learn all the terminal commands?
[10:03] <c_nick> hi is there any room for Maths
[10:03] <c_nick> Mathematics
[10:03] <reid> !irssi
[10:03] <reid> =)
[10:03] <Phobos> ok
[10:03] <Phobos> ok
[10:03] <imachine> c_nick, #maths ? :]
[10:03] <reid> !math
[10:03] <Nitrox22> reid, what is the command in linux to see the my display driver model?
[10:04] <imachine> Phobos, also, don't tell me to use a translator for "sparkles". I know what it means.
[10:04] <Entherman> Hey. Can anybody help me with remote connecting ?
[10:04] <c_nick> no there is no #maths
[10:04] <TechHead> mopoyo: hmm all cmds of the shell ... hard to explain I think
[10:04] <c_nick> thats the first thing i would've tried imachine :P
[10:04] <imachine> Phobos, I just don't know how to put it to the situation you've described.
[10:04] <TechHead> linux actually works all on cmd line
[10:04] <imachine> c_nick, ;-P
[10:04] <reid> Nitrox22: lspci |grep radeon
[10:04] <imachine> c_nick, xkcd.com? ;-)
[10:04] <reid> Nitrox22: that *should* do it
[10:04] <TechHead> there is a nice GUI like KDE or GNOME that help you work with  the sys
[10:04] <Phobos> ok iknow
[10:04] <reid> Nitrox22: oh.. sry
[10:04] <g4lt-lappy> c_nick, this channel is really for ubuntu-specific help.  for general network help, there's #freenode
[10:05] <mopoyo> TechHead, just give me a try
[10:05] <c_nick> ok
[10:05] <reid> Nitrox22: fglrxinfo, if you are using proprietary
[10:05] <Entherman> I have SSH Access on my friends PC, i Want to set up Remote xdmcp server on hist PC, so I could connect. Google shows me how to do it with graphical interface, I need to do it with terminal. How ?
[10:05] <reid> Nitrox22: I know nothing about OSS drivers for ATI, they are pretty poor atm
[10:05] <TechHead> I downloaded a nice book for Linux startes lemme have a  look
[10:05] <g4lt-lappy> Entherman, why do you ned an entire xdmcp session over ssh, you can forward individual X clients over ssh with ssh -X
[10:05] <Nitrox22> The program 'fglrxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[10:05] <Nitrox22> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:05] <TechHead> mopoyo: ubuntu pocket guide
[10:06] <Phobos> i wanna describe properly my problem i can-t do that better tou kno
[10:06] <Phobos> w
[10:06] <Nitrox22> reid, The program 'fglrxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[10:06] <Nitrox22> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:06] <TechHead> it should help you get some basic insight into Linux/Ubuntu
[10:06] <gnu-dio> I'm trying to get Video Editing in UbuntuStudio 9.04 working for me. My current problem is that the WMV (or DV-AVI created by WMM) files I need to edit are encoded with 44.1k audio, and when they are imported into Ubuntu by Kino, they get imported as 48k audio, and so get out of sync. I can't see how to import them with correct audio. Any ideas where I need to look to fix this?
[10:06] <reid> Nitrox22: that means that you are not currently using proprietary drivers
[10:06] <reid> Nitrox22: sudo apt-get envyng-core
[10:06] <Entherman> g4lt-lappy: What ? How ?
[10:06] <reid> Nitrox22: then run "envyng -t"
[10:06] <imachine> TechHead, it's not necesarily all command line, i.e., it's not like every application is a wrapper for a command executed in a virtual terminal.
[10:06] <reid> Nitrox22: choose install ATI drivers
[10:07] <Phobos> imachine send me some questions to answer you properly
[10:07] <Nitrox22> reid, check this - VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[10:07] <imachine> TechHead, some are but afaik, most interact with the system directly via syscalls and /proc & friends.
[10:07] <imachine> Phobos, well, firstly, explain what you mean by sparkles.
[10:07] <TechHead> imachine:  yes I know, but in the end when everything fails you need the cmd line to repair the sys
[10:07] <g4lt-lappy> Entherman, in a X terminal type ssh -X user@host (you have to have x forwarding enabled in /etc/ssh/ssd_config, but I think it's default), then just type in the name of the  X client you want to run
[10:07] <imachine> Phobos, dunno, make a summer project out of it if you will. record it on youtube
[10:07] <reid> Nitrox22: not familiar, I would suggest apt-getting envyng-core though
[10:07] <maxxist> anyone know of a dev channel for ubuntu on ps3?  i wanna tell them what a good job they are doing.
[10:07] <Phobos> i can't know
[10:07] <reid> Nitrox22: and then running envyng -t
[10:08] <imachine> Phobos, it's your problem, I can help you fix it, but it's hard to help you think how to ask.
[10:08] <reid> Nitrox22: installing the drivers, and then rebooting.. you can then run fglrxinfo
[10:08] <TechHead> Linux is making great progress and this is actually the 1st time I got Linux running without a hassle, but windows is still MUCH more userfriendly
[10:08] <TechHead> still I will stick to Linux as much as possible
[10:08] <imachine> TechHead, more or less yes, basically, you have a fully functional command line system at the same time as you get a graphical one.
[10:08] <imachine> at least regarding basic and less basic system maintenance.
[10:08] <Phobos> so i just said that i cant watch properly my movies because the image "freeze" i can watch a few minutes and then the screen "freeze" or sparkles
[10:08] <TechHead> imachine: this is why I try to make the move
[10:08] <imachine> TechHead, Ubuntu made great progress.
[10:09] <imachine> TechHead, I moved through command line first since my first "serious" linux box was a router/ssh shellbox.
[10:09] <TechHead> btw, I have Ubuntu on my NTFS partition as a side by side installation
[10:09] <Entherman> g4lt-lappy: WHat do I type for the x client ? like ssh -x entherman@lalala.com gnome ?
[10:09] <Phobos> you know waht iam trying to say you
[10:09] <reid> Windows is very user-friendly yes, but for those who have spent time learning the UNIX/Linux CLI, going back to windows is ridiculous
[10:09] <Phobos> right now ???
[10:09] <g4lt-lappy> TechHead, while you have the right to your opinion on linux vs windows, we do too, and since you're in a linux distribution channel, you can guess what ours is
[10:09] <reid> honestly I could NEVER return to windows
[10:09] <Phobos> imachine ?
[10:10] <Phobos> reid that is truth good
[10:10] <g4lt-lappy> Eneloop, I'd not try a whole gnome session, but why not try something trivial like firefox?
[10:10] <Nitrox22> reid, Installin ATI drivers
[10:10] <TechHead> g4lt-lappy: don't get me wrong, I am chatting here with ppl to help me getting along with Linux
[10:10] <imachine> TechHead, ya, it's a nice hats of to the windows users. same as the possibility to import settings from a windows install.
[10:10]  * aprilhare had to return to windows (hopefully temporarily)
[10:10] <TechHead> guess on what side I am :P
[10:10] <reid> I have a 30g partition for my windows boot, and I use it specifically for directX
[10:10] <reid> =P
[10:10] <aprilhare> burt out my gfx card :)
[10:10] <imachine> TechHead, it's all about choice. Luckily, you have it.
[10:10] <reid> 30 gigs is NOTHIGN
[10:10] <imachine> :-)
[10:10] <reid> sry, nothing
[10:11] <reid> Nitrox22: with envy?
[10:11] <Nitrox22> yep
[10:11] <reid> Nitrox22: awesome
[10:11] <imachine> Phobos, screen as in entire screen or just the totem picture freezes?
[10:11] <Nitrox22> reid, How do you remember these commands i am unable to
[10:11] <imachine> Phobos, have you tried disabling compiz?
[10:11] <Phobos> just the totem picture freezes and mplayer and other video players
[10:11] <reid> Nitrox22: envy is a script that (as far as I know is deprecated).. but used to install the most recent drivers
[10:11] <Entherman> Phobos: who the hell uses totem anyway ? Use VLC
[10:12] <turutosi_> Has Jaunty's RC released?
[10:12] <reid> Nitrox22: what commands?
[10:12] <imachine> Phobos, since when has that started to occur?
[10:12] <reid> Entherman: AMEN!
[10:12] <TechHead> luckily Ubuntu can read AND write NTFS ;D
[10:12] <reid> TechHead: AMEN! lol
[10:12] <Phobos> vlc too
[10:12] <TechHead> it even support my dawicontrol raid controller
[10:12] <guja> If I get this message "W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783" when trying to do apt-get update, what am I supposed to do to make that repository also update?
[10:12] <Phobos> the screen freezes with vlc again
[10:12] <Nitrox22> reid, commands for example to check the driver version, install ATI,Nvidia drivers, etc
[10:13] <reid> TechHead: luckily my windows partition doesn't even know that I have a 300g hard drive.. it seriously thinks this laptop only has 30 gigs hahaha
[10:13] <Phobos> since 3 days
[10:13] <TechHead> loooool reid
[10:13] <eth01> Phobos: could be the RAM.............
[10:13] <eth01> (not VLC)
[10:13] <imachine> Phobos, 1) check your /var/log/dpkg.* for packages installed 3 days ago.
[10:13] <Entherman> Phobos: What was the last thing you did, before it started to freeze ?
[10:13] <imachine> Phobos, 2) disable compiz for now
[10:13] <reid> Nitrox22: envyng -t will install the ATI drivers, once they are installed fglrxinfo will give you the version
[10:13] <Phobos> etho have 2giga ram
[10:13] <reid> Nitrox22: currently, you are using OSS drivers
[10:13] <Phobos> i dont think so
[10:13] <imachine> Phobos, 3) wait for newer drivers if 1) prooves it's the graphics drivers that caused the failure.
[10:14] <reid> Nitrox22: they are of a completely different breed, and are most likely only geared for 2D rendering
[10:14] <Phobos> i installed compiz manager
[10:14] <Phobos> to get the cube
[10:14] <imachine> I'm 99% sure it's ati drivers not keeping up with some X.org changes.
[10:14] <Nitrox22> reid, My ubuntu struck. it shows me a black screen after installing ATI drivers
[10:14] <Entherman> Then that is your problem :)
[10:14] <Entherman> Phobos: Uninstall compiz, reboot.
[10:14] <imachine> Phobos, turn it off completely
[10:14] <Phobos> i will remove compiz ?
[10:14] <Phobos> right now ?
[10:14] <guja> Hm. When I add medibuntu repo and try to install skype under Jaunty amd64, it pulls me 32bit Skype when doing apt-get install skype. Why?
[10:14] <reid> Nitrox22: installed through envy?
[10:14] <eth01> Phobos: you are missing my point. it does not matter how much ram your desktop has... more if it's working the way it should be.
[10:14] <Entherman> Phobos: Yes.
[10:14] <Nitrox22> reid, Yep
[10:14] <imachine> guja, there's no 64bit skype,afaik
[10:14] <reid> Nitrox22: hmm, any way to restart the VM?
[10:15] <reid> Nitrox22: I would like to see the version that fglrxinfo gives you
[10:15] <Phobos> ok i will do that and i say you if that fix my problem
[10:15] <imachine> guja, it uses binary compatibility with 32bit apps on 64bit installs.
[10:15] <imachine> guja, thank skype.com
[10:15] <imachine> :-)
[10:15] <guja> Idiots.
[10:15] <guja> imachine, is it harmless to install all those 32bit libraries and run 32bit programs under amd64?
[10:15] <reid> Nitrox22: I could compare it to my version, and if its much lower I would advise you to build the ATI drivers manually
[10:15] <imachine> guja, perfectly harmless.
[10:15] <Nitrox22> reid, After reinstalling it asked to me to restart but when i restart it shows me a blank screen
[10:16] <imachine> guja, ubuntu automates the process anyway
[10:16] <guja> imachine, thank you very much for answers.
[10:16] <imachine> guja, also, you can use a skype-static version.
[10:16] <Entherman> Phobos: It will :)
[10:16] <imachine> guja, that has all the required libs built in so you don't need to pull many deps.
[10:16] <g4lt-lappy> speaking of compiz, i got a cool idea for macbooks or whatever, if you can figure out how to get the accelerometer to actually show up as a button press in xkb, use the shaking of the laptop to generate a switch dekstop or whatever the compiz equivalent is
[10:16] <guja> imachine, skype-static is? 32bit also?
[10:16] <imachine> yea methinks.
[10:16] <Phobos> i hope entherman
[10:16] <guja> Aham, it has dependencies inside.
[10:16] <guja> Got it.
[10:17] <reid> Nitrox22: hmm... there is no text from the even from the very beginning of the VM's boot?
[10:17] <purvesh_> imachine: hi
[10:17] <imachine> guja, cheers
[10:17] <guja> imachine, *thumbsup*
[10:17] <Entherman> Um. How to open System -> Administration -> Login Window from terminal ^_^ ?
[10:17] <Nitrox22> reid, It shows me some text and then it shows me the login screen in terminal and then screen becomes blank
[10:18] <purvesh_> imachine: what should i do in dhcp id collum it will blank or what ?
[10:18] <reid> I have a funny story for everyone, and to make it short, a cocky windows-fanboy friend of mine loaded up his linux kernel and told me he knows linux, and that linux sucks.. he proceeded to fsck his mounted drive
[10:18] <Entherman> Any ideas ?
[10:18] <imachine> purvesh_, you're overdoing it.
[10:18] <reid> needless to say, it destroyed GRUB
[10:18] <nameless`> hi
[10:18] <reid> and he couldn't boot
[10:19] <nameless`> is there any US citizen here ?
[10:19] <purvesh_> imachine: what i didnt understand
[10:19] <imachine> purvesh_, most of what I said. reread it and come back if you still need more.
[10:19] <reid> nameless`: .... I'm a US citizen lol
[10:19] <imachine> (perhaphs it if takes long enough I'll be gone by then)
[10:19] <purvesh_> imachine: ok
[10:19] <peacewise> hey i tried to play youtube videos...but everytime i start it....mozilla crashes... what shud i do
[10:19] <peacewise> ?
[10:19] <Entherman> doh
[10:20] <nameless`> reid, do you know a good US radio with good politic debate etc. ?
[10:20] <imachine> peacewise, reinstall flash
[10:20] <deanet> waks
[10:20] <reid> Nitrox22: hmm... you are the one VMing from XP to 9.04?
[10:20] <TechHead> one lill xchat q
[10:20]  * g4lt-lappy really doesn't see how his citizenship has anything at all to do with ubuntu
[10:20] <imachine> peacewise, sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[10:20] <Nitrox22> reid, yep
[10:20] <Entherman> Any body got ideas how to open system -> -> login window from terminal ?
[10:20] <TechHead> I need to auth with Q before I can enter a channel
[10:20] <Phobos> entherman shoul i reboot my computer
[10:20] <TechHead> now authing takes quite some time and xchat wants to join right away
[10:20] <TechHead> irc_join_delay did not help
[10:20] <Phobos> cause no fix it
[10:20] <reid> Nitrox22: yeah man, like I said jaunty is still very much in development.  as an ATI user, if you want to be able to even use Ubuntu you should use 8.10
[10:20] <TechHead> any clues?
[10:20] <Entherman> Phobos: Yes.
[10:21] <Phobos> i remove compiz
[10:21] <Phobos> ok
[10:21] <imachine> TechHead, try #xchat maybe? :)
[10:21] <reid> Nitrox22: sorry it broke, but it was never going to work properly in the first place
[10:21] <Nitrox22> reid, thanks. I am going to reinstall ubuntu 9.04
[10:21] <TechHead> imachine: err, lol, thx
[10:21] <imachine> ;]
[10:21] <imachine> np
[10:22] <reid> Nitrox22: np, I'm sorry I can't help you further, ATI just hasn't moved towards x.org 1.6 yet
[10:23] <reid> Does anyone know if nvidia supports jaunty properly?
[10:23] <imachine> reid, works okay for my 7600go
[10:23] <Nitrox22> reid, No probs thanks for letting me know the ATI problem
[10:23] <reid> never ran linux with nvidia, I just have this feeling that they are more on the ball haha
[10:24] <Udonge> Hey guys, I used to be able to quickly open a folder using the keyboard in Nautilus by typing the first few letters. How do I get that working again? It seems to have broke after I installed a Japanese IME.
[10:24] <reid> imachine: ah ur running jaunty?
[10:24] <imachine> reid, on two machines, yes
[10:24] <imachine> (ibm x40, compal el80)
[10:24] <imachine> both ext4
[10:24] <reid> imachine: oh sweet, then I for SURE know that nvidia is ahead of the game hahah
[10:24] <imachine> smooth as a newborns arse.
[10:24] <imachine> :-)
[10:25] <reid> imachine: ext4??? i hate you haha
[10:25] <imachine> yea
[10:25] <imachine> I even dared to fsck mounted /
[10:25] <reid> imachine: you notice any benefits yet to ext4 FS?
[10:25] <imachine> it worked.
[10:25] <imachine> -,-
[10:25] <imachine> reid, yes.
[10:25] <FloodBot2> imachine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:25] <imachine> reid, it's insanely fast, compared to ext3.
[10:25] <reid> @FloodBot2: stfu
[10:25] <reid> =P
[10:26] <imachine> reid, both for read, small file operations and large file operations like unpacking many rars.
[10:26] <reid> imachine: I could imagine when you dpkg -i *.deb for a folder with like 50 debs
[10:26] <reid> it would be faster as well
[10:26] <clearscreen> imachine: is it really 'insanely' fast? i was thinking MINOR speed increases :P
[10:26] <imachine> there was some minor setback with deleting files.
[10:27] <imachine> but it's fixed now methinks.
[10:27] <imachine> clearscreen, it's a good 5-10 seconds faster to boot.
[10:27] <imachine> clearscreen, and during certain operations it's many times faster. maybe it's placebo.
[10:27] <clearscreen> imachine: worth  a shot I guess, im already running jaunty
[10:27] <reid> well my lappy is already under 20 seconds boot
[10:27] <clearscreen> !ext4
[10:27] <imachine> clearscreen, I haven't calculated it.
[10:27] <reid> !ext3
[10:27] <imachine> clearscreen, it's good to do it quick enough, since you need to rewrite everything if you migrate from ext3, in order to benefit from ext4.
[10:27] <reid> !ReiserFS
[10:28] <imachine> reiser screwed me over many times.
[10:28] <reid> !JFS
[10:28] <Phobos> after removin compiz and rebootin the problem is still here
[10:28] <imachine> !xfs
[10:28] <Phobos> i relly dont know how to fix it
[10:28] <reid> lol realy?
[10:28] <reid> imachine: the reiser thing that is
[10:28] <imachine> reid, yes, back in the day
[10:28] <imachine> reid, it was more a linux problem
[10:28] <mopoyo> why thankyou reid
[10:28] <Phobos> please help me
[10:28] <reid> imachine: I heard that reiser frags much less though... but then again I have never had a frag problem with ext3
[10:29] <reid> mopoyo: what are you thanking me for?
[10:29] <imachine> reid, it was a problem regarding linux mounting dirty fs.
 !ReiserFS
[10:29] <imachine> reid, which it shouldn't have done.
[10:29] <reid> mopoyo: lol =P np
[10:29] <imachine> reid, fscking later caused data loss.
[10:29] <clearscreen> NOTE: by doing so, new files will be created in extents format, but this will not convert existing files. However, they can be transparently read by Ext4.
[10:29] <clearscreen> sigh..
[10:29] <mopoyo> sorry not that.. i meant reid> !ext3
[10:30] <reid> imachine: yeah I stick to ext2 for boot, and ext3 for root/home, call me oldschool haha
[10:30] <imachine> reid, it's a good combo
[10:30] <reid> !ext2
[10:30] <reid> wtf?
[10:30] <imachine> I too use ext2 for boot if it's a separate /boot partition I use
[10:30] <imachine> reid, ZFS is something interesting too.
[10:30] <ikonia> reid: control your language please
[10:30] <mopoyo> what do you mean you stick to ext2 for boot reid?
[10:30] <imachine> reid, the FreeBSD people were all hyped about it.
[10:30] <reid> imachine: yeah I tend to partition /boot, /, and /home
[10:30] <peacewise> i installled the flahsplayer-nonfree but still mozilla crashes when i m trying to watch any video on youtube
[10:31] <reid> well, there is no reason to use a journaling FS for your boot partition
[10:31] <imachine> mopoyo, ext2 doesn't have a journal,so it's good for a small boot partition.
[10:31] <peacewise> what shud i do?
[10:31] <ikonia> peacewise: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[10:31] <mopoyo> imachine, what's a journal?
[10:31] <reid> I make /boot a 256mb ext2 partition
[10:31] <imachine> peacewise, is it jut youtube, or any flash page?
[10:31] <reid> that I never touch, ever again
[10:31] <peacewise> 8.04
[10:31] <imachine> mopoyo, google
[10:31] <peacewise> 32 bit
[10:31] <mopoyo> !google journal
[10:31] <reid> !journaling
[10:31] <reid> !journal
[10:31] <reid> wtf
[10:31] <ikonia> reid: I won't ask you about your language again
[10:32] <Phobos> !
[10:32] <reid> ikonia: ? =P
[10:32] <peacewise> google videos rum fine ...its probably just the youtube ones
[10:32] <mopoyo> .g journal
[10:32] <ikonia> reid: we know what "wtf" means - there is no need to use it
[10:32] <imachine> mopoyo, long story short, it's a way to keep info about your files in the fs. a journal of sorts.
[10:32] <imachine> ikonia, come on. it's a bloody abbreviation.
[10:32] <imachine> ikonia, it can mean whatever you want to.
[10:32] <reid> what the fudge
[10:32] <ikonia> imachine: it's this simple - don't use it
[10:32] <sobersabre> hi.
[10:32] <imachine> exactly
[10:33] <ikonia> reid: stop it
[10:33] <reid> you want me to type it out?
[10:33] <ikt> wow
[10:33] <sobersabre> Xorg problem: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d637a7cf1
[10:33] <peacewise> i installled the flahsplayer-nonfree but still mozilla crashes when i m trying to watch any video on youtube..google videos rum fine ...its probably just the youtube ones
[10:33] <ikt> calm down on the internet police ikonia..
[10:33] <imachine> ikonia, you're overdoing the family friendly policy imho.
[10:33] <ikonia> !wtf
[10:33] <sobersabre> no errors during the startup, but there's something wrong in the end.
[10:33] <reid> ikonia: I have helped more people that you in the past few days, gtfo
[10:33] <ikonia> just to make it clear - it's not "my" policy -
[10:33] <sobersabre> xorg.conf is here:
[10:34] <peacewise> e	i installled the flahsplayer-nonfree but still mozilla crashes when i m trying to watch any video on youtube..google videos rum fine ...its probably just the youtube ones...what shud i do
[10:34] <cnt> hi all :) does someone know how i can mount a nss volume from a netware 5 server without using the netware client  only with ncpmount? volume sys works but even the nss volumes give me the error:No such file or directory
[10:34] <|Dreams|> what programming languages do i have to or are best to learn to contribute with ubuntu/
[10:34] <imachine> ikonia, and if you get pinged by some bot or so every time you hear 'wtf' you should reconcider fixing that bot
[10:34] <ikt> wow
[10:34] <ikonia> imachine: how about stop using the phrase like you have been asked to
[10:34] <imachine> ikonia, also, that was totally uncalled for. reid's provided support for other people here.
[10:34] <sobersabre>     SubSection     "Display"
[10:34] <sobersabre>         Modes      "nvidia-auto-select"
[10:34] <sobersabre>     EndSubSection
[10:34] <sobersabre> EndSection
[10:34] <ikonia> imachine: it's that simple
[10:34] <FloodBot2> sobersabre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:34] <sobersabre> hmm
[10:34] <sobersabre> sorry
[10:34] <ikt> cnt expect a kline :/
[10:34] <imachine> ikonia, it's ridiculous tho :-)
[10:34] <ikt> ikonia?
[10:34] <sobersabre> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d44ac9d6b
[10:35] <xukun> where can I start looking if I have a sound when playing movies but not for stereo sound like flac or wav?
[10:35] <sobersabre> I know monitor's specs (virtrefresh, etc.)
[10:35] <peacewise> imachine...?
[10:35] <aprilhare> yay for ipv6!
[10:35] <mopoyo> how do you make a partition just for boot?
[10:35] <sobersabre> The problem started after the upgrade to 180 v. of nvidia driver.
[10:35] <aprilhare> sobersabre, you could always go back.
[10:36] <peacewise> i installled the flahsplayer-nonfree but still mozilla crashes when i m trying to watch any video on youtube..google videos rum fine ...its probably just the youtube ones...what shud i do??
[10:36] <sobersabre> aprilhare: I didn't experience any problem like this, and I upgraded many machines to 180 driver.
[10:36] <ikonia> peacewise: try other flash sites to get an idea if it is just 1 site, or more
[10:36] <sobersabre> I suspect there's some auto-detection related problem.
[10:37] <ikonia> peacewise: and I assume you're just using standard firefox install provided by ubuntu
[10:37] <aprilhare> sobersabre, it could be the gfx card not playing nice
[10:37] <sobersabre> I wonder though if I could... overcome this one with your or other guys' help.
[10:37] <sobersabre> aprilhare: is it a common issue ?
[10:37] <peacewise> yes @ikonia
[10:37] <imachine> ikonia, I still stand by what I said before, banning me was a ridiculous move here.
[10:37] <aprilhare> sobersabre, no idea, test and find out
[10:37] <mopoyo> what are the advantages of using ext2 for booting
[10:37] <peacewise> then wwhich browser shud i install@ikonia
[10:37] <peacewise> ?
[10:38] <Bhavesh2177> is there any local repository for up2date ?
[10:38] <ikonia> peacewise: firefox is fine, I suggest testing some other flash sites to get an idea of what's effected
[10:38] <ikonia> Bhavesh2177: up2date is a redhat EL product
[10:38] <Bhavesh2177> yes
[10:38] <mopoyo> what are the advantages of using ext2 for booting
[10:40] <Bhavesh2177> can we create local repository like yum in up2date
[10:40] <pmjdebruijn> mopoyo: probably nothing significant
[10:40] <pmjdebruijn> in other words, who cares...
[10:40] <pmjdebruijn> mopoyo: is 1 second faster boot worth the fiddling?
[10:40] <jrq> hi i was wondering if some1 can help me with installing ubuntu or kubuntu
[10:41] <mopoyo> pmjdebruijn, nope
[10:41] <blu_engie> ikt poke
[10:41] <mopoyo> ikonia, why did you ban them?
[10:42] <jrq> when i downloaded kubuntu and tried to install it i got this error saying i have a problem with 59 files but when i did the hash check there was no problem
[10:42] <abby_> jrq: did you try it on a dif. machine? also, did you try to burn another copy (I know the hash is OK, but just in case)?
[10:43] <jrq> i did burn another copy with a different software and speed
[10:43] <jrq> same problem
[10:43] <jrq> i didnt check another machine
[10:43] <jrq> i tried ubuntu on the the same machine
[10:43] <ziroday> jrq: what was the exact error?
[10:43] <jrq> but this time i got an error saying that init wasnt found
[10:44] <jrq> and said i shud do a bootary
[10:44] <jrq> for kubuntu it gave me a bunch of files and said they were missing
[10:45] <ziroday> jrq: and you sure the md5sum checked out?
[10:45] <mopoyo> ikonia, why did you ban them!
[10:45] <jrq> yea
[10:45] <ikonia> mopoyo: thats not your concern at this time
[10:45] <jrq> it did for both of them
[10:45] <rodgrech> anybody here have experiance with ubuntu and touchscreens, specificly panasonic CF18 toughbooks
[10:46] <abby_> jrq: dunno, but I remember some people having motherboards which weren't supported by Ubuntu. They tried Suse and it was fine (since they make contracts with mb manufacturers). They had similar errors, I believe. Please do check whether your hardware is supported!
[10:46] <mopoyo> yes
[10:46] <jrq> what is suse? and how can i check if my motherboard is compatible ?
[10:46] <ziroday> abby_: err I doubt that is an issue, and if there is jrq can always do acpi=off
[10:46] <ziroday> jrq: Did you do check cd for defects?
[10:46] <jrq> yea i did
[10:46] <ziroday> jrq: we really need exact error messages.
[10:47] <abby_> jrq: Yeah, did you try to turn off acpi? (btw, tnx ziroday)
[10:47] <ziroday> jrq: okay, can you try burn an ubuntu alternate cd and try install with that please.
[10:48] <abby_> jrq: openSuse is another linux distribution. but don't give up on ubuntu yet! :)
[10:48] <ziroday> jrq: making sure to check the md5sum after downloading and burning, checking cd for errors, doing a memtest and then running the install. If it errors out again write down the exact error message(s)
[10:48] <DizzyDoo> Hi (I'm a linux newbie), I'm running Ubuntu Server with Apache, and I want all folders within my /var/www/ folder to have a certain CHMOD when they are created, how do I go about this?
[10:48] <ziroday> DizzyDoo: why?
[10:48] <jrq> how do i make an alternate cd?
[10:49] <mopoyo> so what are you doing ikonia ?
[10:49] <ziroday> !alternate | jrq
[10:49] <magnetron> !alternate | jrq
[10:49] <ZhouYu> !ping me
[10:49] <ziroday> magnetron: I win :D
[10:49] <magnetron> ziroday→ you fiend :(
[10:49] <ziroday> ZhouYu: yes we can see you, please test in #test
[10:49] <jrq> thanks ziroday
[10:49] <ziroday> jrq: if you have any questions about using it feel free to come back and ask :)
[10:50] <abby_> ziroday: but I'm curious, how is this gonna help if he gets the alternate cd?
[10:50] <tlx> 01:47 DCC CHAT from ankhow [127.0.0.1 port 30000] requested in channel #ubuntu
[10:50] <abby_> ziroday: you suspect a bug in the main cd isos?
[10:50] <tlx> what was that?
[10:50] <tlx> i did not ask for it
[10:50] <tlx> yet that went on for 10 minutes
[10:51] <mopoyo> does anyone here know how old ikoni a is?
[10:51] <ziroday> abby_: the alternate cd is less prone to failing due to unsupported hardware or anything similar. Its just another precaution
[10:51] <arm> bonjour a tous
[10:51] <ziroday> mopoyo: 121, now move along.
[10:51] <ziroday> !fr | arm
[10:51] <ziroday> abby_: and curiousity is good :)
[10:51] <ziroday> tlx: ask in #freenode
[10:51] <abby_> ziroday: :D
[10:51] <kraut> moin
[10:52] <mopoyo> ziroday, you're lying
[10:52] <tlx> i dont even use ubuntu
[10:52] <ziroday> kraut: morning, do you have something we can help you with?
[10:52] <tlx> i use debian :)
[10:52] <ziroday> tlx: please ask in #freenode
[10:52] <mopoyo> ziroday, are you part of the ubuntu staff?
[10:52] <tlx> ziroday:  yeah i found out he was sending dcc chat requests to everyone
[10:52] <clearscreen> mopoyo: you should try #ubuntu-ops
[10:52] <ziroday> tlx: well then there is nothing you can do :)
[10:52] <kraut> ziroday: severall things, but for that i need someone else ;)
[10:53] <mopoyo> Hi again clearscreen.
[10:53] <kraut> ziroday: why?
[10:53] <clearscreen> mopoyo: hi
[10:53] <laoli> hi
[10:54] <ziroday> kraut: nothing at all
[10:54] <jrq> ziroday i was wondering how i can get kubuntu features on ubuntu
[10:54] <mopoyo> clearscreen, how can I learn about the linux terminal commands?
[10:54] <tlx> jrq: easy :)
[10:54] <mopoyo> clearscreen, can you please teach me?
[10:54] <ziroday> jrq: sure you can, you can also use the kubuntu alternate cd if you would prefer
[10:54] <tlx> jrq:  you need to download 600mb of kde packages first.
[10:54] <ziroday> !terminal > mopoyo
[10:54] <bazhang> !rute > mopoyo
[10:55] <mopoyo> um..
[10:55] <ziroday> bazhang: what does rute stand for?
[10:55] <oscar> so
[10:56] <abby_> mopoyo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=990636
[10:56] <bazhang> ziroday, not sure; /msg ubottu rute for details :)
[10:57] <mopoyo> abby_, I'm looking for a personal tutor
[10:57] <ziroday> mopoyo: then this is not the place for you.
[10:58] <abby_> mopoyo: oh sorry, I can't deal with that, but take the link as a reference, can't harm
[10:58] <mopoyo> ziroday, I really need a dedicated tutor that will help me learn
[10:58] <Baskt_Case> is there a PS3 specific ubuntu channel?
[10:58] <ziroday> mopoyo: http://www.ubuntu.com/training
[10:58] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ps3 Baskt_Case
[10:58] <Baskt_Case> cool... thanks!
[10:59] <Baskt_Case> ewwies... 8ppl?
[10:59] <Baskt_Case> ouch
[10:59] <clearscreen> mopoyo: why would someone want to do that?
[11:00] <ikt> for money..
[11:00] <mopoyo> clearscreen, i don't know..... maybe the ubuntu community is really nice?
[11:00] <DizzyDoo> Hi, Linux newbie running Apache on Ubuntu Server. When I visit my site, everything in the /var/www/ folder works fine, but items in subfolders have a 'Forbidden' error on them (when in browser). This is something to do with the folder permissions right?
[11:00] <clearscreen> mopoyo: nice, possibly... but i'm 100% sure they have something better to do with their time
[11:00] <abby_> clearscreen: Because sometimes ppl find it hard to learn on their own, especially if it's something very abstract or if you're not so much into, let's say computers
[11:00] <mopoyo> Is anyone willing to tutor me and spread their knowledge of ubuntu?!
[11:00] <ziroday> DizzyDoo: yep, one sec
[11:01] <ziroday> mopoyo: I have already given you a link. Nobody is willing to.
[11:01] <Baskt_Case> mopoyo: seriously, your best hope of something like that, is your local university, or community college
[11:01] <Baskt_Case> 40-80 bux for some classes could be worth alot more
[11:01] <Baskt_Case> u kno?
[11:02] <Baskt_Case> i kno the local CC here has computer science courses at night and on weekends too
[11:02] <clearscreen> abby_: that isn't the answer to my question ;) I understand perfectly fine why someone would want a personal tutor.. But why someone would spend his time tutoring a complete stranger in something that can quite easily be picked up upon solo ... well it boggles my mind
[11:03] <ziroday> DizzyDoo: they have to be executable (the folders)
[11:03] <clearscreen> but perhaps this is a better conversation for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <ziroday> DizzyDoo: so sudo chmod a+x /path/to/folder
[11:03] <mopoyo> clearscreen, you probably wouldn't understand what's it's like helping someone else ;)
[11:04] <abby_> clearscreen: to cut long story short: there might also be ppl who enjoy that! although it's a bit masochistic :>
[11:04] <clearscreen> mopoyo: why do you think I am in this channel?
[11:04] <mopoyo> clearscreen, it's not just about saying "google is your friend"
[11:04] <DizzyDoo> ziroday: the folders are currently at chmod 755 (executable for everything). The command seems to make no difference either
[11:04] <clearscreen> mopoyo: when have I ever done that?
[11:04] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I'm not sure
[11:04] <abby_> yeah, that's why I use debian, so I can always say things like: "Google is your friend ;)"
[11:05] <abby_> just a joke...
[11:05] <clearscreen> mopoyo: then why assume that I have? :)
[11:05] <ziroday> DizzyDoo: err stick a hello.html file in that is a+rwx and see if it appears in the file listing
[11:05] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I'm saying other people in this channel do that
[11:08] <clearscreen> mopoyo: and I can see where they're coming from in most cases, this is a ubuntu support channel, not a library for linux-related questions that are answered in the first results on google
[11:08] <DizzyDoo> ziroday: Thanks for trying, I fixed it by reassigning the www-data apache group to own all the files within there (no idea why they weren't owned already)
[11:08] <ziroday> DizzyDoo: ah, that would help :). Have fun
[11:10] <fasta> How can I mute my sound at boot in 8.10?
[11:10] <fasta> Or how to have alsamixer remember the last settings at boot?
[11:11] <ziroday> fasta: you want to mute the bootup sound, or have the sound always muted?
[11:12] <fasta> ziroday: Just mute everything, until I run alsamixer or whatever application to unmute.
[11:12] <ziroday> fasta: it should remember your settings, i.e. if you had it muted when shutting down it will mute when starting up
[11:13] <fasta> ziroday: I would not be asking this question if everything would be working as it should.
[11:15] <Chowder> So compiz won't work with my computer now because my gfx card reached a "blacklist". However, its ok. I want to install e17. What I had in mind was using Gnome with e17 and using thunar instead of nautilus by default. Is this possible?
[11:16] <mopoyo> which version of ubuntu should i get?
[11:17] <ziroday> Chowder: yep
[11:17] <imstnor> 8.10
[11:17] <ikt> 9.04
[11:17] <mopoyo> imstnor, why 8.10
[11:17] <ziroday> Chowder: but what do you mean e17 with gnome? As in pick n' mix?
[11:17] <mopoyo> i read that all non-LTS versions aren't stable
[11:17] <Chowder> mopoyo, 8.04 is the Long Term Service Release and is the most stable. 8.10 is a regular release and is still pretty stable. 9.04 is a beta.
[11:17] <imstnor> Im running xubuntu on my pendrive
[11:18] <Chowder> ziroday, I guess you could call it that
[11:18] <imstnor> its stable
[11:18] <mopoyo> i'm on 8.10
[11:18] <ziroday> Chowder: well sure, that would be possible.
[11:18] <Chowder> ziroday, either that or just get rid of all things gnome and use e17 exclusively
[11:18] <ziroday> Chowder: that being easier :)
[11:18] <mopoyo> I installed OSS, removed it and sound no longer worked
[11:18] <mopoyo> no one could help fix it >.>
[11:19] <imstnor> o
[11:19] <imstnor> I see
[11:19] <Chowder> ziroday, now that I think about it, I would like to just get rid of gnome all together
[11:19] <imstnor> thing is that I installed a bunch of packages and the system got screwed
[11:19] <Chowder> I still want to have the same login manager and all that, though
[11:20] <imstnor> I figured it to be on account of the work load I put on the system
[11:20] <ziroday> Chowder: heh, one sec
[11:20] <Chowder> ziroday, ok
[11:20] <Phobos> i fix my problem
[11:20] <ziroday> Chowder: I presume the gnome apps as well?
[11:21] <Phobos> i did gstreamer-properties in shell session
[11:21] <maxagaz> to which web application can i synchronize tomboy ?
[11:21] <imstnor> so I formated my drive, and re installed.. now Im gonna install the packages a few at a time >(
[11:21] <Chowder> ziroday, I won't need them I guess
[11:21] <Chowder> ziroday, all I'll need is gtk to use apps like pidgin and brasero
[11:21] <Phobos> and in video i did  X Windows Systel (sans Xv)
[11:22] <Phobos> system
[11:22] <Frxstrem> when you boot up Ubuntu from a CD (LiveCD). can you install drivers and programs without them really being installed on the hard drive ?
[11:22] <NiCoUp> #ubuntu-fr
[11:23] <Chowder> ziroday, probably the only gnome app I'd keep is gnome-terminal
[11:23] <ziroday> Chowder: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop gnome-desktop-data libgtk2.0-0 && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install pidgin brasero gnome-terminal<enlightment stuffs and others>
[11:24] <imstnor> Anobody know of internet browsers for DosBox?
[11:24] <tomcyl> hi, all
[11:24] <ReVoLt> arachne
[11:24] <tomcyl> anyone know how i can see gif file in ubuntu?
[11:24] <Chowder> ziroday: gotcha. I think I'm just gonna install the latest e17 from source
[11:25] <ziroday> tomcyl: open it in the browser
[11:25] <ziroday> Chowder: gutsy
[11:25] <tomcyl> all gif  i make in photoshop
[11:25] <Chowder> ziroday, indeed.
[11:25] <tomcyl> they r not moving
[11:26] <marcel_> e17 when is it going to be final?
[11:26] <Frxstrem> can you install drivers and programs without them really being installed on the hard drive by booting up from a LiveCD ?
[11:26] <ziroday> tomcyl: then you created it incorrectly
[11:26] <ziroday> Frxstrem: yep, as long as you don't restart
[11:26] <ziroday> Frxstrem: or run out of ram.
[11:27] <Frxstrem> ziroday: Thanks :D
[11:27] <tomcyl> ziroday i can see them normal in windows
[11:28] <ziroday> tomcyl: and you opened it in firefox?
[11:28] <ziroday> tomcyl: did you open it in a web browser in windows?
[11:28] <tomcyl> yes
[11:28] <ziroday> tomcyl: did it animate in windows in a web browser?
[11:29] <WAR-JC> does punkbuster work in ubuntu with eiter wine or cedega?
[11:29] <tomcyl> i did it by photoshop
[11:29] <ziroday> WAR-JC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616555 so yes
[11:30] <ziroday> tomcyl: right, but _did_ you view it in a web browser in windows?
[11:30] <tomcyl> i think i need some photoview SW on ubuntu
[11:31] <WAR-JC> thanks for the link ziroday
[11:31] <ziroday> tomcyl: no, to view animated gifs all you need is a web browser.
[11:31] <tomcyl> i can see them normal in web browse
[11:31] <ziroday> WAR-JC: no problem, have fun
[11:31] <ziroday> tomcyl: so in windows, you saw your gif move around in a web browser?
[11:31] <tomcyl> is they any SW like Photoshop?
[11:31] <marcel_> its called animated gifs
[11:32] <ziroday> tomcyl: yes, gimp
[11:32] <ziroday> marcel_: thank you, we know.
[11:32] <Chowder> ziroday, hah, found an easy script online to install from SVN
[11:32] <ziroday> Chowder: doubly gutsy
[11:32] <Chowder> ziroday, nah, it was written by an e17 dev
[11:33] <ziroday> Chowder: my stance still holds :)
[11:33] <Chowder> lol
, my gif not move in GIMP?
[11:35] <ziroday> tomcyl: because you didn't export it correctly in photoshop.
[11:35] <tomcyl> ok i try thanks
[11:36] <marcel_> whats the name of that game with colored balls you have to shoot?
[11:37] <ziroday> marcel_: frozen bubble
[11:37] <marcel_> ziroday, thanks
[11:38] <forsakensoul> hey guys I have a Compaq Presario C700 and I had wireless working using compat-wireless but I updated Linux-generic-headers to 2.16.7-27 and now its not working
[11:38] <forsakensoul> any ideas how I can fix this ?
[11:39] <mopoyo> clearscreen, after i close the gui how do i restart it?
[11:40] <mopoyo> clearscreen!
[11:41] <clearscreen> mopoyo: close what gui?
[11:41] <mopoyo> gdm
[11:41] <mopoyo> stop
[11:41] <mopoyo> I can't remember the whole command but it was something like that
[11:42] <mopoyo> /usr/var/gdm stop or something
[11:42] <clearscreen>  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:42] <mopoyo> is that it?
[11:42] <mopoyo> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:42] <xray7224> mopoyo, try ctrl + alt + backspace <<--- restarts X (it will close any de/wm
[11:42] <clearscreen> nah I just typed random characters just for the lulz
[11:42] <clearscreen> :P
[11:42] <mopoyo> what the hell
[11:42] <grawity> mopoyo: Or press Ctrl-Alt-F1, login there, and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:43] <mopoyo> what does de/wm stand for?
[11:43] <grawity> mopoyo: desktop environment / window manager
[11:43] <xray7224> desktop enviroment (kde, gnome, xfce)/ window manager (fluxbox, openbox, etc...)
[11:44] <imstnor> I made my SAN 2 & 4GB and a ZAP 16GB USB flash drives into  a stable xubuntu 8.10 system, for an acer aspire 3682 with 1.6 GHz celeron(R) M, 1GB ram and malfunctioning IDE hdd.. I removed the flawed hard drive, booted from a Xubuntu8.10.iso, opened terminal, typed <sudo su><apt-get install usb-creator><usb-creator>, gave the system the 4GB san disk plus the 2GB one for swap area. Leaving me with 16GB free space on my solid state hard dr
[11:44] <imstnor> ive system..
[11:44] <abhi____> give an example server for news reader in slrn(slang news reader).....how is slrn, i want to try
[11:44] <xray7224> imstnor, tip insted of doing sudo su do sudo -i
[11:45] <imstnor> what does it do
[11:45] <grawity> abhi____: Try aioe.org or news.motzarella.org
[11:45] <mopoyo> If I install software from the ubuntu repository is it safe to say that I am downloading the most updated version?
[11:45] <xray7224> the same =] pretty much but all via sudo rather than su
[11:45] <grawity> abhi____: (the Motzarella one will need registration, but is free)
[11:45] <xray7224> sudo -i <<< keeps root terminal
[11:45] <abhi____> < grawity>ok i'll try now
[11:46] <xray7224> mopoyo, pretty much =]
[11:46] <grawity> abhi____: also, try this: enter the letters gr, then press Tab. (On IRC)
[11:46] <clearscreen> mopoyo: no, unless you're running jaunty
[11:46] <mopoyo> i just downloaded vim!
[11:46] <abhi____> grawity:
[11:46] <mopoyo> it's version 7.1 -.-
[11:46] <oCean_> mopoyo: no, the repos do not aim to run latest versions
[11:46] <oCean_> !latest | mopoyo
[11:46] <clearscreen> mopoyo: anything you're grabbing from the 8.10 (or lower) repositories is pretty stable... but very outdated :P
[11:47] <abhi____> gr
[11:47] <mopoyo> So how do I get the latest version of vim?
[11:47] <grawity> mopoyo: apt-get install vim?
[11:47] <mopoyo> I just did that >.>
[11:48] <clearscreen> mopoyo: you either deal with it until jaunty becomes stable, or you upgrade to jaunty, or you grab the source and build it yourself, or you use backports
[11:48] <clearscreen> the possibilities are endless :P
[11:49] <xray7224> mopoyo, why do you need the latest copy just out of intrest
[11:49] <mopoyo> xray7224, dunno
[11:49] <mopoyo> clearscreen, how do I build it myself?
[11:49] <xray7224> mopoyo, not adviced
[11:49] <oCean_> mopoyo: don't. Just use the version the repo offers
[11:50] <mopoyo> xray7224, why not?
[11:50] <drowner> I'm running hardy. I went to upgrade to ibex (yes, took a while, I know) , but i got told that my restricted nvidia drivers were not supported, and they would revert to 'nv' which would not support 3d stuff. Has this been fixed?
[11:50] <mopoyo> oCean_, why should I use the older version?
[11:50] <clearscreen> !backports | mopoyo
[11:50] <xray7224> mopoyo, why not
[11:50] <magnetron> mopoyo→ because it's tested and we give you support with it
[11:51] <oCean_> mopoyo: 1) because you have NO reason at all to use 7.2 over 7.1  2) because otherwise you will have to compile it yourself, and might run into dependency problems and such
[11:51] <magnetron> mopoyo→ if you use any other version than the one from the repos, you are on your own and we don't offer any support for it
[11:51] <clearscreen> mopoyo: trust me, just read up on backports if you REALLY want to upgrade vim (and vim only).. otherwise just wait for jaunty to become stable
[11:53] <xray7224> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/editors/vim <<< @ mopoyo
[11:53] <xray7224> mopoyo, at the very bottem there is download vim amd64 = 64 bit install, i386 = 32 bit install pick ur one download and install
[11:54] <drowner> no love for my question guys? come on, be a sport
[11:54] <xray7224> drowner, sorry i must have missed it what question ?
[11:54] <drowner> I'm running hardy. I went to upgrade to ibex (yes, took a while, I know) , but i got told that my restricted nvidia drivers were not supported, and they would revert to 'nv' which would not support 3d stuff. Has this been fixed?
[11:54] <mopoyo> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable
[11:55] <connar> anyone here have an idea about installation of additional plone products?
[11:55] <drowner> as in, are there new restricted drivers available?
[11:55] <drowner> for the legacy cards?
[11:55] <mopoyo> @ xray7224
[11:55] <drowner> that work with the new kernel?
[11:55] <oCean_> mopoyo: yes, there you have it
[11:55] <xray7224> mopoyo, thought as much it has a dependancy list on the site i liked too ur gunna spend a while rounding up all your dependances =]
[11:56] <connar> i want to install CSS manager and Plone Subskins..me running on ubuntu..can anyone help me?
[11:56] <oCean_> xray7224: that is why we advice against it, even don't advice it here
[11:56] <mopoyo> xray7224, I don't even konw what a dependency is.
[11:56] <xray7224> mopoyo, its a something a program uses to run =] pretty much
[11:57] <drowner> mopoyo: and you're in dependency hell! The irony. What's the problem with the current stable build of vim again?
[11:57] <xray7224> oCean_, he wanted a answer i gave it he can see what a pain it is =]
[11:58] <stepi> hey guys where can I get the newest version of madwifi from ?
[11:58] <xray7224> mopoyo, considering you have no real need for the newer id stick with the older one it will save u quite some time =]
[11:58] <clearscreen> stepi: I would assume www.madwifi.org
[11:58] <stepi> ./j #madwifi
[11:59] <byerley> is it not possible to use promiscuous mode with ndiswrapper?
[11:59] <imstnor> being newbie and all.. I haven't been using cli since the old win 3.1 and amiga days.. After installing the intrepid ibex on my solid state usb drive system; I'd like to get some skills using bash, anyone know handy boot parameters?, I'd like to change the Xubuntu boot menu.. How to slim down the system, what is the basic applications for GUI?
[12:00] <L3dPlatedLinux> how would i delete all the gedit backups in one quick command?
[12:01] <clearscreen> rm -f *~
[12:01] <maxagaz> what command line can i use to find a string in all the files of a directory ?
[12:01] <mopoyo> xray7224, I don't really care about time, I'm more concerned about learning how to use linux
[12:01] <oCean_> imstnor: since it seems you don't have run into a very specific issue (yet), you might want to start in this pocketguide (free download: http://ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html)
[12:02] <clearscreen> maxagaz: you can use a combination of 'ls', 'cat', 'grep', and 'awk'
[12:02] <oCean_> maxagaz: use grep  "grep <string> *"
[12:02] <imstnor> thx
[12:03] <oCean_> magnetron: grep -i to make case insensitive and grep -R to do recursive (i.e. including subdirectories)
[12:03] <oCean_> magnetron: ah, not for you
[12:03] <xray7224> mopoyo, some would argue that learning to stick with the older would be a better option but if u must then take a look at the dependances on the page i sent you ull have to get them (if they depend on something you will have to get them too) you would be as well off moving up to jaunty
[12:03] <oCean_> maxagaz: grep -i to make case insensitive and grep -R to do recursive (i.e. including subdirectories)
[12:03] <drowner> Gunna ask my question one more time
[12:03] <drowner> :D
[12:04] <drowner> I'm running hardy. I went to upgrade to ibex (yes, took a while, I know) , but i got told that my restricted nvidia drivers were not supported, and they would revert to 'nv' which would not support 3d stuff. Has this been fixed?
[12:04] <clearscreen> xray7224: or he could just look up backports as I've stated about 10min ago, so he can upgrade a simple package to a newer version through apt :P
[12:04] <clearscreen> drowner: I'm not answering because I simply do not know the answer :)
[12:05] <drowner> clearscreen: fair enough :D
[12:05] <Dillizar> droazen nvidia 173 drivers works
[12:05] <xray7224> clearscreen, id say that too but he isn't listing to that
[12:05] <Dillizar> drowner nvidia 173 drivers works
[12:05] <fasta> drowner: it depends on which card you have.
[12:05] <drowner> Dillizar: Is that for all old cards? Is it not bundled with 8.10? Are you prompted to add it yourself?
[12:06] <clearscreen> drowner: jockey-gtk will give an option between 173 and 180
[12:06] <clearscreen> you can choose yourself
[12:06] <Dillizar> drowner whats the model of your nvidia
[12:06] <fasta> drowner: for example, I had a card for which I know it works perfectly with kernel version 2.6<very old> and it also works on Windows with the original drivers, but nvidia simply dropped support in order to force people to upgrade.
[12:07] <drowner> Dillizar: GeForce4 420 Go rev a3
[12:07] <drowner> according to lspci
[12:08] <Dillizar> go to nvidia and see wich drivers it use drowner
[12:08] <fasta> drowner: it is their business model. The chips and so on can probably last for 20 years or so, but they introduce certain bad components (like fans) which are designed to break after a few years so that people need to buy "new hardware", because it is "broken". It's a big waste from an environmental point of view, but good for business.
[12:08] <Preplexed> hi
[12:09] <maxagaz> oCean_, clearscreen: thanks
[12:10] <Preplexed> i have downloaded some dvd for my dad he had them   on video but his video player broke so how i change them from .avi to one that i can play in his dvd player
[12:11] <drowner> Dillizar: My card is not on their website ;(
[12:11] <Dillizar> Preplexed add/remove and just type video convert but avi is not a free
[12:12] <ianh99> Preplexed, You might want to look at avidemux
[12:12] <Preplexed> ok well is there free one how do i  pay for it
[12:13] <Dillizar> Preplexed there is ogg
[12:13] <Dillizar> but just type video conertor in the add/remove
[12:13] <Dillizar> and you will find one
[12:14] <Preplexed> ok thank-you
[12:14] <mahiti-irc> Hi
[12:14] <mopoyo> umm... I just got the intrepid backport and try to apt-get install vim... but it says my vim is already at the latest version -.-
[12:15] <mahiti-irc> plan to do  windows  migration to ubuntu
[12:15] <mahiti-irc> can anyone guide?
[12:15] <mahiti-irc> regarding adobe tools
[12:15] <bazhang> mahiti-irc, cs2?
[12:16] <quantum> hi there
[12:16] <quantum> what tool can I use to view system information related to hardware
[12:16] <mahiti-irc> like adobe distiller and designer
[12:16] <clearscreen>  mopoyo you're probably already on intrepid
[12:16] <mahiti-irc> i found gimp and scribus for photoshop and pagemaler
[12:16] <Dillizar> mahiti-irc you want to install adobe for windows on ubutnu???
[12:16] <bazhang> quantum, sudo lshw
[12:17] <irix_> can anyone tell me how to get rhythmbox to read an ipod smart playlists? currently only displays static playlists
[12:17] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I am on intrepid..
[12:17] <mahiti-irc> no am using those in windows
[12:17] <ziroday> irix_: it can't
[12:17] <iamleneko> something like adobe distiller come right out of the box
[12:17] <ljsoftnet> how do i change the write speed in brasero disc burning software?
[12:17] <clearscreen> mopoyo: then get jaunty backports :P
[12:17] <mahiti-irc> what are the altrnatives for ubuntu?
[12:17] <mopoyo> =.=
[12:17] <quantum> bazhang: some gui ?
[12:17] <ziroday> quantum: or hardinfo for a gui tool
[12:17] <irix_> ziroday: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:17] <mahiti-irc> like opensource tools
[12:17] <ziroday> mahiti-irc: ask somewhere else
[12:17] <iamleneko> if you mean something that let you print as a pdf file
[12:17] <Dillizar> !wine | mahiti-irc
[12:17] <irix_> ziroday: thanks, what do you use
[12:17] <mahiti-irc> i dont want use wine
[12:17] <ziroday> irix_: I don't have an ipod
[12:18] <bazhang> mahiti-irc, equivalents?
[12:18] <mahiti-irc> i need some alternative tools for that
[12:18] <mahiti-irc> like GIMP and scribus
[12:18] <quantum> ziroday: can u tell me 1 thing... yesterday I installed kde 4.1 from synaptic on ubuntu 8.10 but then dolphin , konqueror and konsole werent installed ?
[12:18] <quantum> why ?
[12:18] <bazhang> !equivalents > mahiti-irc check this
[12:18] <clearscreen> mahiti-irc: alternative tools for what?
[12:18] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, isn't distiller something that let you print as a pdf file ?
[12:18] <ziroday> quantum: install kubuntu-dekstop
[12:18] <quantum> ziroday: hmmm let me check
[12:19] <etfb> I'm having trouble with suspend/resume in Hardy.  I've upgraded my ATI Radeon HD 3650 video driver to the absolute latest and that had zero effect.  What else can I try?
[12:19] <quantum> ziroday: in kde 4.1 how do I add shortcuts to panels ?
[12:19] <ziroday> quantum: ask in #kubuntu
[12:19] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko: yes like that only
[12:19] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, there is this
[12:20] <ljsoftnet> how do i change the write speed in brasero disc burning software?
[12:20] <Dillizar> etfb did you try to activate the effects
[12:20] <quantum> ok
[12:20] <etfb> Dillizar: Hmmm?
 what u mean by this ?
[12:20] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, i don't remember if i had to install something, i think it is out from the box
[12:20] <irix_> ziroday: right thanks
[12:21] <Dillizar> etfb right click on the desktop and configurate desktop or smt like that and on the end you have desktop effects or smt like that
[12:21] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, i have a pfd writer driver for cups installed
[12:21] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I just added the jaunty repos and it still says that I have the latest version of vim!
[12:21] <ziroday> irix_: you can try banshee or gtkpod
[12:21] <aar> Hi, every time I plug in my external drive and kde auto-mounts it, a new folder is created  in the /media directory that is based on the drive's label, rather than simply mounting on the directory name that is already there (e.g. the drive label is foo, so when I plug it in it creates foo-1, then the next time it creates foo-2, and so on, rather than just mounting on foo). What's causing this behaviour?
[12:21] <Nukker> ciao
[12:21] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, then i can print form any software as a pdf file
 can you give me the driver?
[12:21] <ziroday> aar: try remove /media/foo
[12:22] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, sudo apt-get install cups-pdf
[12:22] <Dillizar> aar you didnt unmount the last time :D
[12:22] <etfb> Dillizar: You mean stuff like Compiz?  What does that have to do with suspend/resume and things crashing?
[12:22] <Nukker> how can i use zd1211 with fluxbuntu?
 thx
[12:22] <ziroday> aar: but it sounds like a kde issue, which is in #kubuntu :)
[12:22] <aar> ziroday, yes that would clear things, but then it starts all over again as soon as I plug it in again.
 they you know any tools for local language typing ?
[12:22] <ziroday> aar: right, #kubuntu :)
[12:22] <Nukker> how can i use zd1211 with fluxbuntu?
[12:22] <mahiti-irc> i mean regional lang
[12:22] <aar> Dillizar, yes, I umount the drive before unplugging it
[12:22] <bazhang> mopoyo, you are mixing repos? between versions?
[12:22] <aar> ziroday, ok
[12:23] <djbloc> I seen some neat Ubuntu screenshots of peoples wallpaper that has the sysy
[12:23] <chilli0> Hello all.
[12:23] <djbloc> Whoops, keys slipped
[12:23] <clearscreen> bazhang: backports, he just didn't read the page he got linked to
[12:23] <ziroday> djbloc: sysy?
[12:23] <clearscreen> Try again mopoyo:
[12:23] <clearscreen> !backports | mopoyo
[12:23] <jrib> djbloc: conky?
[12:23] <mopoyo> ?
[12:24] <irix_> ziroday: currently working with gtkpod but i dont have xmms installed so dont have any playback.  Theres a dialog for command for playnow trying to figure out how to modify it, couple of forums seem to using another program for playback
[12:24] <chilli0> Im having some messed up video play back , people are blue anyone know whats up.
[12:24] <bazhang> mopoyo, why do you need the very latest version of vim
[12:24] <mopoyo> clearscreen, it doesn't say how to add the jaunty repos
[12:24] <byerley> I've got a softgate quetec card that I need to get into monitor mode. I evidently can't use ndiswrapper. Is there any chance there're newish native linux drivers for it? I don't know where to find a relatively recently updated list
[12:24] <chilli0> i have nvidia.
[12:24] <xukun> can somebody please help me solving my sound issue? Sounds works perfectly when playing ac3 or dts sound but there is no sound at all when play cd or audio file. I don't see any errors either
[12:24] <tabbar> can anyone here give me a shell on their system?
[12:24] <bazhang> mopoyo, because you dont add jaunty repos to intrepid.
[12:24] <jrib> !ot | tabbar
[12:25] <mopoyo> clearscreen, told me to
[12:25] <djbloc> Can anyone give me a web link that shows how I can embed realtime stats (cpu, io etc) on to my wallpaper. I've seen it on some screenshots of ubuntu and it looks pretty neat.
[12:25] <jrib> djbloc: conky
[12:25] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[12:25] <ianh99> djbloc, google conky
[12:26] <bazhang> mopoyo, no he did not.
[12:26] <bazhang> mopoyo, he said backports only.
[12:26] <bazhang> mopoyo, please answer my question
[12:26] <imstnor> xucun; what software are you using for playing the audio files?
[12:26] <mopoyo> baz_, I meant backports
[12:26] <empiric1> hi guys any one wors on HP Data protector on ubuntu + kerberos authentication
[12:26] <bazhang> mopoyo, why do you need latest version of vim; please explain.
[12:27] <mopoyo> bazhang, I've already answered it.
[12:27] <bazhang> mopoyo, I did not see; please repeat your answer.
 anything you knew for adobe desiner ?
[12:27] <mahiti-irc> designer?
[12:28] <ljsoftnet> how do i change the write speed in brasero disc burning software?
Adobe Designer
[12:28] <imstnor> there is a tab
[12:28] <imstnor> in brasero
[12:28] <z00m> hi, im trying to install the lastest nvidia drivers for my 8800 GT card, its saying i need to close X before i can install how do i do this ?
[12:28] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I added the jaunty backports and it still says I have the latest version!
[12:28] <djbloc> thanks for the links. Seems to be what I was looking for!!
[12:28] <imstnor> a pull down menu
[12:29] <ziroday> z00m: how are you installing them?
[12:29] <bazhang> mopoyo, paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list
[12:29] <imstnor> where you may set the burn speed
[12:29] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, adobe designer ?
[12:29] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, what it does ?
[12:29] <z00m> ziroday, with the script from nvidia site
[12:29] <ziroday> z00m: why?
[12:29] <z00m> its an .run sh
[12:29] <z00m> dunno cuz the ones i have now dont seem to be working right
[12:30] <xukun> anybody please?
[12:30] <mahiti-irc> Adobe Desiner 7.0
[12:30] <z00m> ziroday, is there an easier way ?
[12:30] <ziroday> z00m: well stop trying to run the .run file, its dangerous
[12:30] <mopoyo> bazhang, gedit won't open
[12:30] <z00m> ok @ ziroday
[12:30] <mopoyo> bazhang, because it was not responding and I forced it to close
[12:30] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, is it something that let you design pdf forms ?
[12:30] <ziroday> z00m: what card, what drivers what version of ubuntu, your /etx/X11/xorg.conf and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[12:31] <bazhang> mopoyo, use another editor then
[12:31] <mopoyo> bazhang, how do I kill it?
[12:31] <z00m> ziroday,  my card is a geforce 8800 GT
[12:31] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : The purpose of Designer is to be a one-stop design tool for XML forms to be rendered as PDF or HTML files.
[12:31] <xray7224> mopoyo, your not still on about vim are you
[12:31] <clearscreen> mopoyo: you shouldn't mix jaunty with intrepid repositories, just need to grab intrepid-backports (the software versions will be similar to that of jaunty, I didn't specify this clear enough).. you will probably want to use pins to set the priority of the backports lower than the actual repositories.. then you'll need to apt-get update and then install using '-t'
[12:31] <ianh99> xukun, Try running mplayer /dev/cdrom from a terminal with a audio CD in the drive and report and erros
[12:32] <ziroday> z00m: and the rest of the info?
[12:32] <clearscreen> mopoyo: but really, you should really tell us WHY you want to upgrade  to latest vim
[12:32] <clearscreen> any reason at all?
[12:32] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, you need it for the pdf purpose ?
[12:32] <mahiti-irc> yes
[12:32] <z00m> do you want to see the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:32] <mopoyo> I just want to learn
[12:32] <xukun> ianh99,
[12:32] <xukun> ok
[12:32] <ziroday> z00m: yes, pastebin it plesae
[12:33] <z00m> ok
[12:33] <mopoyo> How do I kill gedit?
[12:33] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, well i don't know much about pdf forms, last experience with it was some pdf file that i couldn't edit with the adobe acrobat reader
[12:33] <ziroday> mopoyo: killall gedit
[12:33] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko OK
[12:33] <ziroday> z00m: along with the other stuff :)
[12:34] <mopoyo> ziroday, it didn't work
[12:34] <mopoyo> I still can't open gedit >.<
[12:34] <ziroday> mopoyo: you're not making any sense
[12:34] <ghabit> !install
[12:35] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, you need to dynamically fill the form, or you need to make some file that the user can edit ?
[12:35] <naxa> hi all!
[12:35] <mopoyo> ziroday, I mean I typed in killall gedit and I still can't open gedit
[12:35] <ziroday> mopoyo: run gedit in a terminal and pastebin your error
[12:35] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : how can i view the doc printed by pdf?
[12:35] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : using cups-pdf
[12:35] <z00m> ziroday, here is the xorg http://pastebin.com/m5add98
[12:35] <mopoyo> I type gedit and nothing happens
[12:35] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : where it will stores?
[12:36] <iamleneko> http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Your_first_PDF_form_with_Scribus
[12:36] <arulmozhi> any software for create,edit,save ms access file?
[12:36] <fqh> test
[12:36] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, i think it is somewhere in the home dir
[12:36] <mahiti-irc> ok
[12:36] <clearscreen> arulmozhi: open-office
[12:37] <mopoyo> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/148299/
[12:37] <ziroday> z00m: you are using the nvidia driver
[12:37] <z00m> here is log http://pastebin.com/m6ccfe7cf
[12:37] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : you are right
[12:37] <z00m> im trying play americas army and its not running to good
[12:37] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : its under home folder named PDF
[12:38] <mahiti-irc> ty
[12:38] <z00m> this card should run that game sweet :)
[12:38] <bazhang> mopoyo, remove the jaunty backports
[12:38] <clearscreen> mopoyo: (as started in my previous message), use intrepid-backports, optionally pin backports to a lower priority, apt-get update, then apt-get install with '-t intrepid-backports'
[12:38] <ziroday> z00m: are you running compiz at the same time?
[12:38] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : regarding the designer : i need it dynamically
[12:38] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko :  imean both u asked
[12:38] <z00m> i was runing berl yes
[12:38] <ziroday> mopoyo: you never provided the info I wanted
[12:39] <z00m> i just turned it off though, havent tried it since
[12:39] <ziroday> z00m: you need to switch to metacity first
[12:39] <Bacta> Has anyone had issues with RhythmBox and transferring music to an iPod with it?
[12:39] <el> #ubuntu-it-chat
[12:39] <mopoyo> ziroday, what information do you want?
[12:39] <ziroday> z00m: i.e. try it with compiz of
[12:39] <ziroday> mopoyo: I just told you
[12:39] <Bacta> Someones it creates "sticky" songs which you can't advance past when playing music
[12:39] <z00m> ok thanks for the help ziroday
[12:39] <z00m> and info^
[12:39] <mopoyo> ziroday, no you didn't
[12:40] <ziroday> mopoyo: run gedit in a terminal and pastebin your error
[12:40] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, i know a way to do this with php
[12:40] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : can you guide me ?
[12:40] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, you know already some coding ?
[12:40] <arulmozhi> how can use open offie for ms access file
[12:40] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : yes
[12:40] <anderson> how to get xorg.conf
[12:41] <ziroday> anderson: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:41] <mopoyo> ziroday, I can't pastebin the error because there is no error message. When I type in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list nothing happens
[12:41] <ziroday> arulmozhi: just double click one the file
[12:41] <sebsebseb> arulmozhi: I think the suppourt for Microsoft access is not that good in Open Office if it even exists properly
[12:41] <ziroday> mopoyo: okay, are any gedit processes running?
[12:41] <anderson> I want to generate a xorg.conf
[12:41] <ziroday> arulmozhi: err sorry, misread. You need to install OOo base
[12:41] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, check for the php pdf functions
[12:42] <ziroday> anderson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:42] <mopoyo> ziroday, I don't know. How can I check?
[12:42] <ziroday> mopoyo: ps aux | grep gedit
[12:42] <mopoyo> yes there are
[12:43] <mopoyo> ziroday, how do I kill them?
[12:43] <ziroday> mopoyo: well please kill -9 <pid?
[12:43] <shlunk> i have a folder which is owned by one user and a group which another user is a member of. that folder has r and w permissions set for the group, and the second user can read and write to it through a symlink in a terminal, but not in kate, or dolphin, or whatever
[12:43] <shlunk> does anyone know why?
[12:43] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, dig into this http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Your_first_PDF_form_with_Scribus
[12:43] <iamleneko> mahiti-irc, there is probably a way to get data from some database or anything
[12:43] <jrib> shlunk: no, pastebin more information
[12:43] <anderson> ziroday, I use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but a very simple xorg.conf generated
[12:43] <mopoyo> ziroday, what does the -9 do?
[12:43] <ziroday> anderson: what do you want from it?
[12:44] <mahiti-irc> iamleneko : ok let me try
[12:44] <ziroday> mopoyo: it shoots the process in the head (the process has to die)
[12:44] <anderson> ziroday, a more detailed xorg.conf like UBUNTU 8.10
[12:44] <ziroday> anderson: what are you trying to do? And what version of ubuntu are you on?
[12:44] <anderson> I am on 9.04
[12:44] <cs02rm0> anyone know why i can't type in gdm on initial load? if i switch to a text console, restart gdm then i can usually type fine (appears to be if the init scripts have finished)?
[12:45] <ziroday> anderson: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:47] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I did what you said and it still says I have the latest version
[12:47] <ziroday> mopoyo: can you open gedit now?
[12:48] <mopoyo> ziroday, yes
[12:48] <ziroday> mopoyo: wonderful
[12:48] <mopoyo> ziroday, thanks man
[12:48] <z00m> is there any rooms for gamers on linux ?
[12:48] <shlunk> http://pastebin.com/d740c454a
[12:48] <xray7224> ./list
[12:48] <punda> lol, good one. Linux gamers
[12:48] <z00m> im looking for some help on getting some games to play on ubuntu
[12:48] <shlunk> can anyone take a look please?
[12:48] <z00m> lol @ punda
[12:49] <ikt> there are a few gamers, but not that many overall
[12:49] <z00m> its the only reason im dual booting windows would be gone otherwise
[12:49] <clearscreen> mopoyo: then either there is no newer version of vim in backports, or you did it wrong :P
[12:49] <imstnor> oCean: thanks for the link.. I printed out a vesion of the bash reference manual html version as well.. linux gives a feeling of empowerment, but there are pitfalls ;) this is the fourth install on this USB flash drive.. xubuntu is great because of its byte economics, I'd love to understand it well enugh to slim it down further to decrease load on my fragile system.. the main IDE harddrive is removed from the computer..
[12:49] <xray7224> django nice :P i tried to do something in that
[12:49] <z00m> if i can get me games running on linux it would be a god send
[12:49] <punda> z00m,  story of everyone here
[12:49] <jrib> shlunk: use `touch' to show whether you can write to a file or not.  Also include the output of « groups » for those users
[12:50] <xray7224> z00m nexuiz is a good FPS
[12:50] <mopoyo> clearscreen, there was no need for the smiley face at the end.
[12:50] <shlunk> jrib: thanks - how do i output the groups?
[12:50] <jrib> shlunk: groups USER
[12:50] <punda> z00m,  I battled for 3 years trying to do it all with linux/cedega/wine ... gave up and just dual boot now
[12:50] <mopoyo> clearscreen, idiot
[12:50] <clearscreen> mopoyo: excuse me?
[12:50] <mopoyo> clearscreen, nothing.
[12:51] <z00m> i bought a game called battleforge for windows like but im trying to get it working on linux
[12:51] <fore> rofl @ idiot
[12:51] <clearscreen> mopoyo: thought so.
[12:51] <fore> yet hes the one needing assistance
[12:51]  * fore shuts up
[12:51] <z00m> xray7224, is nexuiz good then ill look into that
[12:51] <mopoyo> clearscreen, wow you really are as blind as a bat.
[12:51] <ziroday> z00m: what type of game are you looking for?
[12:51] <clearscreen> that's great, hop along now :)
[12:52] <xray7224> z00m its in the repo's (sudo apt-get  install nexuiz)
[12:52] <z00m> well i like battleforge is a RTS (card based game) and FPS games
[12:52] <ziroday> z00m: new games are unlikely to work on linux
[12:52] <z00m> @ ziroday
[12:53] <shlunk> http://pastebin.com/m10a1205f
[12:53] <z00m> battke forge runs with wine but when it attempts to download the updates it just keeps failing on patching the files
[12:53] <mopoyo> what are some good rpg games for ubuntu?
[12:53] <bazhang> mopoyo, lose the attitude; we are volunteers.
[12:53] <jrib> !who | shlunk
[12:53] <z00m> battleforge^
[12:53] <imstnor> I love dosbox.. ancient games come to life in linux
[12:53] <mopoyo> bazhang, why are you taking clearscreen's side?
[12:54] <bazhang> mopoyo, stop the insults.
[12:54] <jrib> shlunk: do you understand what I meant by using « touch »?
[12:54] <shlunk> groups added - touch works fine in terminal, but can't open the symlink to view or edit files in that folder in dolphin
[12:54] <shlunk> jrib: yep, i can touch the files in that folder as "andy"
[12:54] <shlunk> in the terminal, anyway
[12:54] <shlunk> i can't click through the symlink in dolphin
[12:55] <mopoyo> bazhang, what are some good games for ubuntu?
[12:55] <jrib> shlunk: So in  a terminal you are able to edit and view the files, correct?  Try hitting reload in dolphin (in gnome at least, you have to hit reload when you change permissions).
[12:55] <sebsebseb> !games |  mopoyo
[12:55] <bazhang> mopoyo, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:55] <shlunk> jrib: thanks, i'll give that a try
[12:56] <shlunk> jrib: still no luck - it seems to be treating the symlink as a file, rather than a link to a folder elsewhere
[12:56] <jrib> shlunk: does it work if you don't use the symlink but point it straight to the file?
[12:57] <shlunk> jrib: "andy" doesn't have read permission on the folder's parent, "domains"
[12:57] <shlunk> so no, it doesn't work
[12:58] <DOOM_NX> Is there any graphical SFV checker for Ubuntu?
[12:59] <jrib> shlunk: what are you running exactly?  « kate /what/path/are/you/putting/here » ?
[12:59] <hemanth> TkInter anybody ?
[12:59] <shlunk> jrib: running kate, then navigating using the gui to /home/andy/Projects/something.com
[12:59] <magnetron> DOOM_NX→ yes
[13:00] <jrib> shlunk: something.com is some text file?
[13:00] <adi1> hi all
[13:00] <DOOM_NX> magnetron, can you help me please? Can't seem to find any...
[13:00] <shlunk> jrib: no, that's the symbolic link to the folder in /home/django/domains/something.com
[13:00] <lilarcor> sweeeeet~
[13:00] <magnetron> DOOM_NX→ install "gtkhash" from the repositories
[13:01] <jrib> shlunk: right, so now does « kate ~django/domains/something.com » work?
[13:01] <hemanth> python front-end back-end C , having few problems interfacing them
[13:01] <mopoyo> guys I'm download warzone2100
[13:01] <jrib> hemanth: #python
[13:01] <adi1> what smartphone is the ubuntu friendly and intagrate well on ubuntu without all that pain with nokia pc suite, or itune ???
[13:01] <DOOM_NX> magnetron, give me a moment
[13:01] <z00m> check me desktop out this is how linux should look on install http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9784/screenshot1m.jpg
[13:01] <shlunk> jrib: no
[13:01] <hemanth> jrib, join channel not working in xcaht ! omg , i think i found another bug
[13:02] <hemanth> jrib, anyone ill restart xcaht
[13:02] <jrib> shlunk: but, « touch ~django/domains/something.com » does?
[13:02] <hemanth> jrib, thanks
[13:02] <shlunk> jrib: yeah
[13:02] <DOOM_NX> gtkhash doesn't appear in synaptic :x
[13:02] <Dillizar> z00m mine is better :P
[13:02] <WAR-JC> hey guys, need some help
[13:02] <z00m> send a screeny
[13:02] <jrib> !register | hemanth
[13:02] <WAR-JC> I try to install COD4 dvd with Wine
[13:02] <shlunk> jrib: touch /home/andy/Projects/something.com/settings.py
[13:03] <WAR-JC> but I get a error
[13:03] <shlunk> that's what i'm trying
[13:03] <WAR-JC> feature transfer error
[13:03] <WAR-JC> "error:-1603 Fatal error during installation.
[13:03] <WAR-JC> Consult Windows Installer Help (Msi.chm) or MSDN for more information."
[13:03] <csaba> anyone knows of an application which changes my voice into robot voice?
[13:03] <hemanth> jrib, i have registered :)
[13:03] <mopoyo> Guys I am downloading warzone2100!!!!!!!
[13:03] <drowner> z00m: what's that IM client?
[13:03] <z00m> pidgin
[13:03] <adi1> im gonna spen around 200-250€ for a touchscreen or smartphone but im using ubuntu so what can you suggest nokia, blackberry, iphone or anyting....
[13:03] <z00m> its a applet that works with pidgin
[13:03] <drowner> z00m: a particular applet? which one?
[13:03] <bazhang> !ot > mopoyo
[13:04] <z00m> install screenlets
[13:04] <drowner> ahh ok
[13:04] <drowner> yes
[13:04] <jrib> shlunk: erm, weird.  You can open the file in nano and make some trivial change as well?  (doesn't really make sense to me why kate would be acting differently)
[13:04] <WAR-JC> anybody that can help my with installing COD4 with wine?
[13:04] <WAR-JC> me*
[13:04] <drowner> they don't work so good on my old computer :D
[13:04] <z00m> drowner, one sec ill get link
[13:04] <drowner> z00m: its cool: i've got screenlets
[13:04] <drowner> don't use them though
[13:04] <csaba> anyone knows of an application which changes my voice into robot voice as I speak?
[13:05] <drowner> LOL
[13:05] <mopoyo> bazhang, how old are you?
[13:05] <z00m> oh ok.. its here if ya ever do http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Screenlets/PidginScreenlet-36731.shtml
[13:05] <drowner> cheers
[13:05] <mopoyo> sorry
[13:05] <mopoyo> bazhang, sorry mate
[13:05] <Dillizar> z00m i am at work i can show you a screen with icons :D
[13:05] <shlunk> jrib: thanks anyway
[13:06] <z00m> ah right :D
[13:06] <jrib> shlunk: only thing I would try is to log out and back in
[13:06] <Dillizar> z00m i am on E17 :P
[13:06] <z00m> u would never think that was ubuntu
[13:06] <z00m> my desktop^
[13:06] <z00m> lol
[13:07] <mopoyo> So I just installed warzone2100 and when I try to run it in terminal I get the following error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed (Couldn't find matching GLX visual).
[13:07] <mopoyo> z00m, can I see your desktop?
[13:08] <z00m> check me desktop out this is how linux should look on install http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9784/screenshot1m.jpg
[13:08] <z00m> @ mopoyo
[13:08] <z00m> Dillizar, whats E17 ?
[13:08] <DOOM_NX> magnetron, there isn't any gtkhash in synaptic :x
[13:08] <adi1> any one can suggest any smartphone  friendly with ubuntu
[13:08] <mopoyo> z00m, are you using kubuntu?
[13:09] <z00m> no ubuntu
[13:09] <mopoyo> it looks good
[13:09] <lilarcor> whoah!!
[13:09] <bazhang> mopoyo, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:09] <mopoyo> z00m, isn't that KDE?
[13:09] <z00m> nope gnome
[13:10] <mopoyo> So I just installed warzone2100 and when I try to run it in terminal I get the following error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed (Couldn't find matching GLX visual).
[13:10] <magnetron> DOOM_NX→ what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:10] <mopoyo> So I just installed warzone2100 and when I try to run it in terminal I get the following error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed (Couldn't find matching GLX visual).
[13:10] <DOOM_NX> 7.10
[13:11] <Dillizar> wow DOOM_NX
[13:11] <DOOM_NX> do i need an upgrade? :P
[13:11] <Dillizar> DOOM_NX you cant no more upgrades for 7.10
[13:11] <Dillizar> no mozilla 3
[13:11] <Dillizar> rien
[13:12] <Dillizar> DOOM_NX go to 8.04 no more :)
[13:12] <Dillizar> wait there for a wile
[13:12] <Dillizar> :D
[13:12] <WAR-JC> anybody that can help me with installing COD4 with wine?
[13:13] <mopoyo> Can anyone help me with my ubuntu problem!?
[13:13] <DOOM_NX> it's installing updates normally
[13:13] <DOOM_NX> u mean gtkhash isn't available for 7.10
[13:13] <magnetron> DOOM_NX→ gtkhash is available from ubuntu 8.10 and above. what hash did you need again? SFV?
[13:13] <DOOM_NX> ?
[13:14] <DOOM_NX> yeah sfv... at the moment i'm using cfv
[13:14] <drowner> have we worked out how to make that guy speak like a robot yet?
[13:16] <mopoyo> So I just installed warzone2100 and when I try to run it in terminal I get the following error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed (Couldn't find matching GLX visual).
[13:16] <magnetron> mopoyo→ what graphics card do you have?
[13:17] <ianh99> WAR-JC, Have you tried http://www.fsckin.com/2008/02/21/how-to-run-call-of-duty-4-cod4-modern-combat-in-linux/
[13:18] <DOOM_NX> anyway, thank you very much. i'll upgrade soon
[13:19] <magnetron> DOOM_NX→ 7.10 is only supported for a few more days
[13:19] <mopoyo> magnetron, geforce 8800 GT
[13:20] <lake_Sea> Can I use Ubuntu Tweak in XUbuntu ?
[13:21] <ZeroKewl> i need help with 9.04
[13:21] <BlackJack> Send me free notebook
[13:21] <BlackJack> :)
[13:21] <jrib> ZeroKewl: #ubuntu+1
[13:21] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that ZeroKewl
[13:22] <mosimo> can anyone tell me what files stores screen res for the current user?
[13:22] <mosimo> managed to select one my tv doesnt support so now i just got a black screen
[13:22] <mosimo> but i can ssh into it
[13:22] <mopoyo> magnetron, it's a geforce 8800 GT
[13:23] <leo> how do you install a theme?
[13:23] <leo> from gnome look :<
[13:23] <yubinjie> 系统  －－－－－－－新里的 －－－－－－ theme
[13:23] <Dillizar> leo right click on the desktop
[13:24] <leo> ok
[13:24] <leo> then what
[13:24] <Dillizar> leo and go to change desktop and stuff like hat i dont remember and then
[13:24] <Dillizar> go to theme and you have INSTALL THEME
[13:24] <Dillizar> click it
[13:24] <Dillizar> and find a theme on your pc
[13:24] <BlackJack> Send me a free Laptop Please
[13:24] <BlackJack> Send me a free Laptop Please
[13:24] <BlackJack> Send me a free Laptop Please
[13:24] <FloodBot2> BlackJack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:25] <Dillizar> BlackJack STF
[13:25] <leo> oh i see
[13:25] <Dillizar> :D
[13:25] <magnetron> mopoyo→ if you start the "hardware drivers application", what does it tell you about your graphics card?
[13:25] <leo> install theme
[13:25] <leo> can you install from an archive or whatever
[13:25] <psychomantis> stop spamming please
[13:25] <Dillizar> leo yes
[13:25] <mopoyo> I'm using the propriety driver
[13:25] <leo> thank you :>
[13:25] <Dillizar> leo www.gnome-look.org
[13:25] <mopoyo> I.e. The one that NVIDIA provide for linux
[13:26] <metus> i need help with virtualbox
[13:26] <Dillizar> metus #vbox
[13:26] <Dillizar> whats the problem metus
[13:26] <metus> i executed "sudo gpasswd -a metus vboxusers" and restarted, but i still doesn't work
[13:26] <movedx> Can someone perhaps mention the name of an application that I can use to monitor the fan speeds of my computer?
[13:27] <movedx> i wanna see if they can be made a bit quieter
[13:27] <Dillizar> metus you have a old Vbox upgrade to 2.1
[13:27] <BlackJack> Send a me free Notebook
[13:27] <metus> alright, thanks
[13:27] <mopoyo> magnetron, I'm using the propriety driver that NVIDIA provides for linux users
[13:27] <hemanth> movedx, speed means ?
[13:27] <Dillizar> BlackJack wtf is the problem
what do you recommend, OSE or the closed source version
[13:28] <Dillizar> BlackJack are you from afrika :D
[13:28] <ZeroKewl> i think ubuntu is getting like microsoft my self
[13:28] <magnetron> ZeroKewl→ plz join #ubuntu-offtopic and chat with me about this in there
[13:28] <hemanth> ZeroKewl, very much
[13:28] <BlackJack> no i am russian =)
[13:28] <ZeroKewl> they dont know nothing about it in there either
[13:29] <movedx> hemanth: The number of rotations per second.
[13:29] <Dillizar> metus http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[13:29] <ZeroKewl> in 13 days u all be seening alot of people with 9.04
[13:29] <ZeroKewl> so why not start helping with it now
[13:29] <magnetron> ZeroKewl→ you didn't even join the channel
[13:29] <Dillizar> BlackJack so?? why do you ask a notebook
[13:29] <hemanth> movedx, can use system monitor , can be added to panel
[13:29] <metus> how do you chat personally to someone like what you're doing?
[13:29] <sipior> ZeroKewl: i think that's the point of the #ubuntu+1 channel. try there.
[13:29] <BlackJack> send me free notebook (Laptop)
[13:29] <sipior> BlackJack: welcome to my ignore list
[13:29] <ZeroKewl> im in there no one knows shit in there
[13:30] <Dillizar> !jaunty | ZeroKewl
[13:30] <BlackJack> ha ha
[13:30] <BlackJack> okay okay
[13:30] <mopoyo> magnetron, I'm using the propriety driver that NVIDIA provides for linux users
[13:30] <Dillizar> BlackJack buy a ATOM 330 and shutup :)
[13:30] <ZeroKewl> there still not going to support then intel chipsets they didnt ion 8.10
[13:30] <rohdef> anyone who knows how to make the sound is dosbox work properly? It makes a lot of random noice
[13:30] <magnetron> mopoyo→ did you download it from the nvidia website?
[13:30] <mopoyo> magnetron, yes
[13:30] <Dillizar> ZeroKewl you have intel graphic card
[13:31] <jussi01> ZeroKewl: please stay on topic for this channel. thanks
[13:31] <ZeroKewl> i have intel chipset not card
[13:31] <BlackJack> Send me a free graphic card---Send me a free Notebook :)
[13:31] <BlackJack> Send me a free graphic card---Send me a free Notebook :)
[13:31] <mosimo> omg shut up
[13:32] <mosimo> better :)
[13:32] <ZeroKewl> theres a big diffrence in card and chipset
[13:32] <mopoyo> ot > Blackjack
[13:32] <hemanth> BlackJack , we need a freebook not a notebook
[13:32] <Dillizar> ZeroKewl its onboard?
[13:32] <ZeroKewl> yeah
[13:32] <mopoyo> magnetron, yes I downloaded it from the NVIDIA website
[13:32] <jussi01> ZeroKewl: you have a problem on Jaunty, so please use #ubuntu+1 thank you.
[13:32] <Dillizar> ZeroKewl my friend has it and i will buy it soon so tell me the nukber is it 990
[13:32] <ZeroKewl> thats the whole point of chipsets to be onboard ur a real computer wizzard
[13:34] <Dillizar> ZeroKewl try sudo apt-get update and then try to activate the effects and tell me what is the output
[13:34] <sipior> ZeroKewl: lovely manners. raised by wolves?
[13:34] <magnetron> mopoyo→ we only give support for the driver installed by the ubuntu "hardware drivers" tool. if you installed it manually (as you did), then you will have to turn to the Nvidia support desk
[13:34] <Trijntje> does anyone here experience long login times for gnome since 8.04 and in 8.10?
[13:34] <ZeroKewl> and i have already done the updates
[13:34] <ZeroKewl> why u think im here im not a noob
[13:34] <sipior> Trijntje: nothing noticeable, no.
[13:34] <Dillizar> Trijntje` you want to make the grub boot shoerter?
[13:34] <Dillizar> shorter
[13:34] <JohnCane> Hi .. i have searched with KleanSweep and it found almost 2500 things that i can delete, but is it safe to dele it all it have found :) ?
[13:35] <mopoyo> magnetron, I will activate the ubuntu driver
[13:35] <mopoyo> magnetron, brb ok?
[13:35] <sipior> JohnCane: are you short on hard disk space?
[13:35] <jussi01> !noob | ZeroKewl
[13:36] <ZeroKewl> i jsut need help getting the chipset to work right
[13:36] <mosimo> so, anyone know what files stores the currently selected screen res for a user?
[13:36] <JohnCane> sipior:  noo, not really..
[13:36] <sipior> JohnCane: generally KleanSweep causes more problems than it solves. if you have to ask "is it safe to delete?", the answer is no :-)
[13:36] <jussi01> ZeroKewl: thats ok, so ask for help in the correct place, which isnt here
[13:36] <Trijntje> Dillizar: No, its about the actual login in gnome. In hardy it was ~5 seconds, and now its 30+ before i can start up programs
[13:36] <JohnCane> sipior:  i just thought that my computer maybe would be a little faster if i cleaned it up :)
[13:36] <zorglu_> q. when the 904 is supposed to be released ?
[13:36] <sipior> JohnCane: no, i won't.
[13:36] <ZeroKewl> i ask they have no clue either
[13:36] <sipior> JohnCane: it won't, rather :-)
[13:36] <psychomantis> in few days
[13:37] <psychomantis> 23
[13:37] <psychomantis> i think
[13:37] <jussi01> ZeroKewl: that still doesnt mean you can bring it here...
[13:37] <ZeroKewl> well how u get it to work in 8.04
[13:37] <Dillizar> Trijntje wow look in your session maybe you have too many programs botting
[13:37] <JohnCane> sipior: ohh okay, thanks you so much, then i will not dele anything at all !
[13:37] <psychomantis> 04..23.09
[13:37] <ZeroKewl> theres no way i try to
[13:37] <ianh99> Trijntje, check System->Prefs-Sessions to see if anything can be removed at startup
[13:37] <BlackJack> SEND A FREE ME LAPTOP
[13:38] <bazhang> BlackJack, stop that
[13:38] <psychomantis> what ?
[13:38] <Trijntje> Dillizar:, ianh99 I already disabled everything in session, that didnt help
[13:38] <psychomantis> stop it
[13:39] <ianh99> Trijntje, As experiment create new user and login as that see see if any diffrence
[13:39] <Dillizar> Trijntje maybe you have install a BIG theme or smt like that
[13:40] <movedx> I need to be able to see fan speed for my processor. WHat app. can I use to do this. System Monitor does not offer this facility.
[13:40] <Trijntje> ianh99: Ill have to reboot  to do that, when i log in a second time without reboot login times are normal
[13:40] <Trijntje> Dillizar: you mean like a big background image?
[13:40] <Dillizar> Trijntje yes
[13:41] <askvictor> I'm running intrepid, i've just noticed that my cds/dvds get mounted by their volume name rather than /media/cdrom. How can I get them to mount in the same spot every time?
[13:41] <Trijntje> ill try that, but its the standard ibex wallpaper, so I expect that's not the case
[13:42] <sipior> movedx: try lm-sensors
[13:42] <Dillizar> Trijntje wait you are waiting alot before or after the login window
[13:42] <Trijntje> Dillizar: after the login window
[13:43] <Mikusek> #armia_polska
[13:43] <mopoyo> magnetron, !!! how do I disable the propriety drivers and use the ubuntu ones?!?!
[13:44] <vinlinux> Hi anyone here?
[13:44] <Dillizar> Trijntje ok try the experiment make another accountthen restart and see if loging in that accound is faster
[13:44] <magnetron> mopoyo→ the drivers from the nvidia web site is very hard to remove, i don't know how
[13:44] <vinlinux> Am new to Linux, could someone guide me to work in Linux through windows brosers
[13:44] <mopoyo> ...
[13:45] <Dillizar> mopoyo just tru sudo sh the-driver remove
[13:45] <dean_> set irc_conf_mode ON
[13:45] <Trijntje> Dillizar, ianh99: i'm off to reboot, thanks for your help sofar
[13:45] <vinlinux> new to Linux...help needed
[13:45] <Dillizar> maybe that will work mopoyo is a shell right
[13:45] <Dillizar> cheers Trijntje
[13:45] <mafsi> dean_: u need a slash
[13:45] <mafsi> :))
[13:45] <sipior> vinlinux: simplest if you just ask your question directly.
[13:45] <rohdef> vinlinux, go ahead and ask :)
[13:45] <mopoyo> Dillizar, unrecognised argument remove
[13:46] <Dillizar> mopoyo ok i will pm you ok??
[13:46] <vinlinux> I am new to Linux, I need to learn Linux. help me the best ways to learn it fast.  and online.
[13:46] <vinlinux> I have not installed Linux on my desktop.
[13:47] <mafsi> vinlinux: are u on windows?
[13:47] <vinlinux> I want to use any free shell accounts that will faiclitate to learn and implement commands through widows
[13:47] <vinlinux> yeah Mafsi..I am.
[13:47] <mafsi> vinlinux: so no linux installed?
[13:47] <vinlinux> no..no linux installed
[13:47] <sipior> vinlinux: the ubuntu website and community documentation are a great place to start. head to ubuntu.com and start reading :-)
[13:47] <mafsi> vinlinux: install this
[13:47] <mafsi> http://wubi-installer.org/
[13:48] <mafsi> and start playing + what sipior told u
[13:48] <z00m> whats the 3d test thing called glxears ?
[13:48] <vinlinux> wt will it do mafsi? will it give me a virtual linux terminal.? by being in windows?
[13:48] <mosimo> glxgears
[13:48] <rohdef> what can I do to fix the sound in dosbox?
[13:48] <z00m> ok thanks mosimo
[13:48] <mafsi> vinlinux: it will install ubuntu on a free space on windows with the posibilitty to uninstallit via  Control Panel
[13:49] <vinlinux> Amazing..MAfis :)
[13:49] <mafsi> vinlinux: it will no damage your windows at all
[13:49] <mafsi> vinlinux: u will need at least 6-7 GB HDD free sapce
[13:50] <mafsi> space*
[13:50] <mafsi> on a partition
[13:50] <vinlinux> Yes I have it :) ..
[13:50] <vinlinux> and how much MB of download will be done?
[13:50] <mafsi> 3-4 GB for normal installed ubuntu + assuming you will want to install & play with additional software
[13:51] <mafsi> vinlinux: in don't know really but is fast  & also depend on ur connection
[13:52] <leo> how do you install advanced desktop settings?
[13:52] <bazhang> !ccsm > leo
[13:52] <mafsi> leo: install compiz
[13:52] <mafsi> leo: install compiz settings manager
[13:52] <leo> thank you :>
[13:53] <vinlinux> Mafis, can I have your Email address, in case I need to reach u..
[13:54] <vinlinux> the Wubi is going to take 700 MB of download, which is going to set me back by 2 hours.. :).
[13:57] <yubinjie> how to change the theme
[13:57] <yubinjie> how to install a new theme
[13:59] <Trijntje> Dillizar, ianh99: login time on new account is not faster than my normal login
[14:01] <vinlinux> Are there any free shell accounts available where in I can practice my GCC and G++ development anytime on net.
[14:02] <ianh99> Trijntje, does running top show anything obviously consuming resources
[14:03] <markiv1982> Hi.. I am using Jaunty Beta and trying to update using the update manager.. But i get an error message " Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon_2.26.0-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb   Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'"
[14:03] <markiv1982> any thoughts on this?
[14:03] <bazhang> markiv1982, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:04] <vinlinux> are there any free shell logins available to practice basic linux commands online?
[14:04] <mrgreen> where can I locate xorg.conf.... new install of ubuntu server nothing in /etc/X11 ?
[14:04] <sipior> vinlinux: easiest just to install linux and have your own...or try cygwin if you need to remain with windows for a while.
[14:04] <markiv1982> bazhang sorry i couldnt get u...
[14:05] <Halitech> mrgreen, new install basically ignores xorg.conf and automagically configures everything
[14:05] <axxium> No need for xorg.conf with latest Xorg
[14:05] <mrgreen> ok.... so how do you reconfigure screen res.?
[14:05] <bazhang> markiv1982, jaunty discussion in #ubuntu+1
[14:06] <axxium> use window manager setting
[14:06] <Halitech> mrgreen, basically you aren't supposed to
[14:06] <mrgreen> running at 800x600 suks
[14:06] <Halitech> mrgreen, what video card do you have?
[14:06] <Balee> good day
[14:06] <Trijntje> ianh99: no, once login is complete the PC runs fine, no slow startup time for Firefox or anything like that
[14:06] <mrgreen> nvidia
[14:06] <mrgreen> onboard
[14:07] <sipior> mrgreen: xrandr, or use the screen resolution settings panel in gnome.
[14:07] <mrgreen> only shows two settings 800x600 and lower
[14:07] <Balee> anyone with a considerable knowledge in gnuplot, please PM me
[14:07] <Balee> the guys in #gnuplot doesnt seem to listen/care/know about my question
[14:07] <Halitech> mrgreen, have you installed the latest drivers?
[14:08] <mrgreen> not nvidia yet....
[14:08] <sipior> Balee: out of curiosity, why do you think your odds here will be much better? :-)
[14:08] <Balee> more people
[14:08] <Halitech> mrgreen, try installing the latest drivers and hopefully that will help
[14:08] <sipior> Balee: ...who mostly don't know what gnuplot is...
[14:08] <biagidp> I'm on Ubuntu 8.10 and my gnome volume control has no effect on the volume of the sound coming from my computer, does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:08] <Balee> chances are i find at least one person who can help among 1000+ than among 12
[14:09] <Halitech> mrgreen,  you can check this thread on the forums for help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1118926&highlight=nvidia
[14:09] <mrgreen> thank you
[14:09] <mrgreen> :-)
[14:10] <ianh99> Trijntje, I know there was a problem in Gutsy with slow login times. r u running gutsy ?
[14:10] <mrgreen> Halitech: thanks for your help x
[14:11] <Halitech> mrgreen, very welcome and hope it helps
[14:11] <mechtn> ubuntu server, where can i find torrent to download that ?
[14:11] <mechtn> and whats the latest stable release to grab?
[14:11] <bazhang> !torrent
[14:12] <bazhang> oops
[14:12] <bazhang> !torrents
[14:12] <mafsi> bazhang: :))
[14:12] <bazhang> mechtn, see above (8.10)
[14:12] <biagidp> gnome audio control doesn't have any effect on the volume coming out of my speakers, even though it's raising/lowering the master volume, can anyone help me?
[14:13] <vinlinux> what is freeNX?
[14:13] <mafsi> biagidp: rise the Front Chanell
[14:13] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX vinlinux
[14:13] <sipior> vinlinux: an X Window implementation for windows, iirc.
[14:14] <quibbler> mechtn> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:14] <sipior> vinlinux: appears i'm mistaken, apologies
[14:15] <biagidp> mafsi: I don't have an option to add "Front Channel" to Volume Control, where do I find Front Channel?
[14:15] <Trijntje> ianh99: I recently updated to ibex, but i also had the problem in gutsy.
[14:15] <Meelu> Some idiot made me run sudo rm -rf /etc/iptables.rule
[14:15] <Halitech> vinlinux, its similiar to vnc in that you can use it to remotely control a system over a network
[14:15] <mafsi> Volume Control > Preferences > Check Front Channel
[14:15] <sipior> Meelu: made you?
[14:15] <mafsi> biagidp: Volume Control > Preferences > Check Front Channel
[14:15] <Meelu> I asked for help on irc on another channel he did it as a joke
[14:15] <Meelu> he thought i knew what it did
[14:16] <sipior> Meelu: typing commands that you don't understand is never a good idea.
[14:16] <Meelu> i wanted to reset the iptables rules
[14:16] <Meelu> clear
[14:16] <biagidp> mafsi: that's where I'm looking, but Front Channel isn't present in the list of things I am able to check
[14:16] <Halitech> Meelu, well, in a way you did reset them ;)
[14:17] <Meelu> Yes but it doesnt help does it
[14:17] <Meelu> i wanted to clear
[14:17] <mafsi> biagidp: volume control (I have HDA Alsa Mixer) > Preferences > FrontChannel
[14:17] <ianh99> Trijntje, Sorry out of ideas, maybe the problem in Gutsy is still with you after the upgrade. You could try a new install, but thats a bit severe
[14:17] <Meelu> Does anyone know how i can fix it
[14:18] <mafsi> Meelu: Live CD?
[14:18] <Meelu> ?
[14:18] <sipior> Meelu: backups?
[14:18] <Meelu> nope i just have a rule
[14:18] <Meelu> i dont understand much of it my friend does
[14:18] <mafsi> sipior: if Meelu will run update-rc.d ... defaults will help?
[14:19] <markiv1982> is it advisable to install KDE and XFCE in the same installation of Ubuntu or in Fresh Install?
[14:19] <Meelu> he told me on irc that i will be able to may be able to fix my problem if i clear that file
[14:19] <Meelu> how mafsi?
[14:19] <Halitech> markiv1982, sure, you just select which desktop you want when you start up
[14:19] <biagidp> mafsi: looks like PCM-2 under Analog Devices AD1091B (OSS Mixer) controls audio
[14:19] <biagidp> for me at least
[14:19] <Trijntje> ianh99: hmm, too bad. I'm still hoping a little that the new gnome on jaunty will magically solve the problem. If not maybe ill reinstall. Thanks for your help!
[14:20] <Meelu> ...
[14:20] <bazhang> markiv1982, its fine to install together
[14:20] <mafsi> sudo update-rc.d <TAB> defaults
[14:20] <mafsi> Meelu: sudo update-rc.d <TAB> defaults
[14:20] <bazhang> markiv1982, xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are the packages to install
[14:20] <Meelu> im not realy good with ubuntu, how will this communicate with the iptables.rules
[14:21] <Meelu> or tell it to do anything to that file
[14:21] <markiv1982> Will i get KDE 4.2.2 in kubuntu?
[14:21] <sipior> mafsi: no, that won't affect the situation.
[14:21] <sipior> mafsi: that sets up runlevel symbolic links, as i recall
[14:21] <pmitros> How stable would the transition from Intrepid to Jaunty be if I did it todat instead of in a couple of weeks? Intrepid has a broken pyqt4/phonon, which Jaunty fixes. The backport process is fairly painful, but I need it this week. I'm wondering if I'm not just better off upgrading early.
[14:21] <Meelu> mafsi?
[14:22] <pmitros> It might also make suspend work ;)
[14:22] <sipior> Meelu: how did you create the iptable rule set in the first place? might simply have to redo your configuration.
[14:22] <mafsi> sipior: if Meelu will do a file with some iptables and update it ?
[14:22] <Dillizar> pmitros its good you will have upgrades and bug fixers every day
[14:22] <Meelu> my friend can do it for me, but hes not back for hours
[14:22] <Dillizar> and in two weeks will not become a full version
[14:22] <bazhang> pmitros, and jaunty discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[14:23] <pmitros> Okay. I'll wait for more responses and go there.
[14:23] <sipior> Meelu: was it a large set of rules, or just one? if you tell us what you need done, we can probably set you up here.
[14:23] <mafsi> Meelu: i dont have iptables.rules in /etc
[14:23] <mafsi> Meelu: is a script made by u?
[14:24] <Meelu> im not sure
[14:25] <Meelu> erm
[14:25] <Meelu> sorry about this
[14:25] <Meelu>  iptables -A floods_protect -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -m limit --limit 1/sec --limit-burst 3 -j RETURN
[14:25] <Meelu> iptables -A floods_protect -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j DROP
[14:25] <Meelu> iptables -A floods_protect -i eth0 -p udp -m limit --limit 10/sec -j RETURN
[14:25] <Meelu> iptables -A floods_protect -i eth0 -p udp -j DROP
[14:25] <FloodBot2> Meelu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:25] <Meelu> iptables -A floods_protect -i eth0 -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -m limit --limit 5/sec -j RETURN
[14:25] <sipior> no need to be sorry, you won't get far... :-)
[14:25] <mafsi> lol
[14:25] <mafsi> that's why is a pastebin
[14:25] <Meelu> paste2
[14:25] <mafsi> Meelu: there is a paste bin
[14:25] <marko-_-> Hi i need help instaling the S.T.A.L.K.E.R game... i installed playonlinux then run it and clicked on "install" i selected stalker, selected the cd-rom installed everything and then clicked next and nothing happens... i get a stalker icon on the desktop and when i want to run it nothing happens... any ideas ?
[14:26] <Meelu> http://paste2.org/p/181437
[14:26] <Meelu> this is some i remember
[14:26] <greenfrog> is there a way to see what escape sequence goes with a given keystroke, i.e. \033 = 'Esc'?
[14:26] <sipior> Meelu: do you have a program called "iptables-save" on your machine?
[14:26] <Meelu> i mean he said this may have caused the problem on my server so he said clearing may help
[14:26] <sunwave> How do I enable gdm after disabling it in ubuntu 8.10 x86, under system -> admin -> services I cannot unlock that section anymore. I logged in to a console and then typed startx to get back to the desktop. Any hints?
[14:26] <Meelu> im not sure i set the server to recovery mode
[14:26] <sipior> Meelu: also, have you rebooted the machine since you deleted the iptables.rule file?
[14:26] <Meelu> nope
[14:26] <atmospherian> marko-_-: try executing the program from a terminal and see what errors get output
[14:27] <sipior> Meelu: if the rules are still in place, you can simply write them back out to disk with iptables-save.
[14:27] <mafsi> sipior: :) correct
[14:27] <Shish_> hey guys, my screen resolution is 1024X768, and i always change it to 1280X960 and when i restart, it goes back to the lower resolution... how do i keep it the way i want it?  im running nvidia gf fx5200
[14:27] <Meelu> nano /etc/iptables.rules
[14:27] <Meelu>  and there isnt anything there
[14:27] <marko-_-> atmospherian, how ? there on my emulation C drive the stalker file is empty
[14:27] <mafsi> Meelu: sudo iptables-save
[14:28] <marko-_-> it work great installing it normaly - with wine but the game crashes and i read that it's better to use PlayOnLinux.. but i can't even find a tutorial how to install a game
[14:28] <marko-_-> properly
[14:28] <atmospherian> marko-_-: look at what command the icon is executing, and run that in a terminal
[14:28] <aitvara> When I change the country in the keyboard options , Do I have to reboot the computer ?
[14:28] <marko-_-> wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\XR_3DA.exe": Module not found
[14:28] <marko-_-> atmospherian, i get this
[14:28] <aitvara> Ubuntu version 8
[14:28] <Meelu> is it safe to give you the results of it mafsi
[14:29] <mafsi> Meelu: private
[14:29] <marko-_-> atmospherian, and this ----> S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow Of Chernobyl: line 4: cd: /home/marko/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/STALKER-ShadowOfChernobyl/drive_c/Program Files/THQ/S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow of Chernobyl/bin: No such file or directory
[14:30] <atmospherian> marko-_-: can you manually cd into those directories and see if they exist?
[14:30] <RanyAlbeg> Hi all , im trying to add a new system call which will print 'hello world' to the kernel log. in the process im trying to find the location /usr/src/<my kerne distribution>/includ/asm-i386. but i can find it. any idea?
[14:30] <Halitech> aitvara, might not need to restart the computer but probably will need to restart X
[14:30] <marko-_-> atmospherian, yea i checked it out already they don't
[14:30] <marko-_-> i will try someting out
[14:30] <marko-_-> i will install it normaly with wine
[14:30] <marko-_-> and then try to load the icon from PlayOnLinux
[14:31] <chrislsp> anyone here who can use xspim???
[14:31] <aitvara> Halitech I already seen , isn't necessary restart X neither computer , but the modification only will stars Ok opening a new program which wasn't opened before
[14:31] <aitvara> by the way ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't restart X , right ?
[14:32] <Halitech> aitvara, I think its ctrl-alt-backspace
[14:32] <marko-_-> aitvara, no it doesn't
[14:32] <Halitech> aitvara, don't feel like testing that right now as I have too many windows open that I don't want to restart ;)
[14:32] <chrislsp> anyone who knows assembly???
[14:33] <aitvara> Halitech haha lol you mean ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[14:33] <aitvara> or f1
[14:33] <sipior> chrislsp: two things: 1) which assembler? 2) this is a linux support channel, actually ;-)
[14:34] <chrislsp> sipior: i know!i have a "linux problem" with xspim
[14:34] <Dillizar> yes aitvara
[14:34] <chrislsp> sipior: pcspim runs great under windows but i face problem under linux
[14:35] <sipior> chrislsp: namely?
[14:35] <Halitech> aitvara, sure, get picky on me ;)
[14:35] <aitvara> Dillizar , to restart the X what is the way ?
[14:35] <Milos_SD> where does ubuntu keeps information of installed kernels and modules for initramfs?
[14:35] <chrislsp> sipior: "namely"?..you mean whats the problem?!
[14:35] <ronaldo_> atualizei a versão 7.10 do unbutu para a versão 8 e a rede wireless deixou de funcionar. sabem como posso configurar a rede novamente?
[14:36] <Milos_SD> found it
[14:36] <sipior> chrislsp: well yeah, you weren't expecting me to guess, were you?
[14:36] <Dillizar> aitvara ctrl+alt+BackSpace
[14:37] <nathan-_> hey everyone... what's the best device for putting into a rack for connecting to all the serial ports on the switch/routers for out of band management?
[14:37] <nathan-_> lemme ask the question in #cisco like I intended.. oops
[14:37] <RanyAlbeg> Hi all , im trying to add a new system call which will print 'hello world' to the kernel log. in the process im trying to find the location /usr/src/<my kerne distribution>/includ/asm-i386. but i can find it. any idea?
[14:38] <chrislsp> sipior: sorry i just didn't understand namely(poor english)....i try to load a file myprog.s ....yesterday was working but now i get <<loaded: /usr/lib/spim/exceptions.s  cannot open file "myprog.s"
[14:39] <sipior> RanyAlbeg: i think you're looking for asm-x86, not asm-i386, right?
[14:39] <amartin83> hi, does anyone knows how to run microphone in skype. The mic is working in the system, i hear voice persone on the other side when calling to skype test, but my voice isn't recorded there at all.
[14:39] <pumpkinseed> good morning everyone
[14:39] <sipior> chrislsp: what's the output of "ls -l myprog.s"
[14:40] <chrislsp> sipior: -rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris 642 2009-04-10 16:12 myprog.s
[14:40] <sipior> chrislsp: and how are you trying to load the file?
[14:41] <RanyAlbeg> sipior: I really dont know. im read this information on "Operating system concepts 8th"
[14:41] <RanyAlbeg> sipior: and it sasy asm-i386
[14:41] <chrislsp> there is an option in the xspim which says load...press it...write filename and ok
[14:42] <sipior> RanyAlbeg: probably a bit out of date. have a look at the 3rd edition of "Linux Device Drivers" or a similar recent reference.
[14:43] <chrislsp> sipior: i think i sovled it
[14:43] <chrislsp> sipior: i think i solved it*
[14:43] <RanyAlbeg> sipior: are you familiar with this folder and contents?
[14:43] <sipior> RanyAlbeg: vaguely, why?
[14:44] <RanyAlbeg> sipior: trying to locate a file called unistd.h to add a system call number.
[14:44] <verb3k> Is #ubuntu the channel with the most online people on freenode?
[14:44] <chrislsp> sipior: i was trying to load a file from a folder that xspim couldn't "see"
[14:44] <Accesshater> hi there, does somebody know where i can find the ppa for http://live.gnome.org/Planner . Tnx in advance
[14:45] <sipior> chrislsp: that will do it.
[14:45] <sipior> RanyAlbeg: sure, unistd.h lives there quite happily.
[14:46] <sipior> RanyAlbeg: remember it's split into unistd_64.h and unistd_32.h, though.
[14:46] <RanyAlbeg> i can find this file in many places inside /usr/src/<my kernel dist>/include/
[14:46] <sipior> RanyAlbeg: or rather, both are #IFDEF'd by the main unistd.h
[14:46] <RanyAlbeg> i dont know which one i need to edit
[14:47] <Berserkur> Hi, I'm having trouble restoring ubuntu. I have restored ubuntu from a backup and I changed the partition table so it contains 3 primary partitions (ntfs, 83 and 84) but before the restore I had one primary, extended and two partition inside the extended. The problem is that grub seems to keep using hd0,5 even though I have changed menu.lst and specify root(hd0,1)
[14:47] <RanyAlbeg> yea , so where is the main
[14:47] <RanyAlbeg> main unistd
[14:47] <Berserkur> Do yu know what the deal is? I'm getting grub error 2
[14:47] <sipior> RanyAlbeg: whichever one corresponds to the architecture you're concerned with.
[14:48] <Berserkur> Does grub and grub-install use other configs as well?
[14:50] <XB23> i just installed apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm and it installed lots of dependancies however i did apt-get remove x-window-system kde kdm but it hasnt removed the dependancies , how do i remove all the things it installed cause its took loads of hdd space up lol
[14:50] <probs> hi
[14:50] <probs> my ubuntu fails to play flash
[14:50] <probs> why is that so? I spend 15 minutes in some dorky synaptic already. I just want flash
[14:51] <Berserkur> probs: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:51] <probs> Berberi: did, no help.  still flash thinks it has it, but youtube do not play
[14:51] <ksa_> hi
[14:51] <Berserkur> probs: Have you restarted firefox?
[14:51] <ksa_> how can start fluxbox instead of gdm/gnome?
[14:51] <RanyAlbeg> sipior: i can only find /usr/src/linux-2.6.18.1/include/asm-i386 , but this is not the kernel i want.
[14:51] <probs> Berberi: yes
[14:52] <Berserkur> probs: Are you sure that it worked? Because this is all you need for flash to work
[14:52] <probs> Berberi: it is installed (in Synaptic).   firefox is restarted and still faiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil
[14:52] <dassouki> is there a way i can install updates offline from terminal ?
[14:52] <probs> big black box instead the flash (on youtube)
[14:53] <Berserkur> ksa_: In gdm you should be able to choose which window manager or desktop environment you startup via gdm
[14:53] <dassouki> i want to update my grub, intrd, x, kernel, offline is there a way to to do it
[14:53] <Halitech> probs, I know this doesn't help you but I've tried to get youtube to work in 3 different flavours of linux on my desktop and it has never worked, worked first shot on my laptop though
[14:54] <probs> Halitech: for me it usually worked, but now it failed
[14:54] <Halitech> probs, do you have compiz enabled?
[14:54] <probs> wait
[14:54] <probs> it worked \o/
[14:54] <benzss> i have a massive memory leak but i've no idea what's causing it... is there any way to find out what keeps filling up the ram and swap? the process list doesn't correspond at all
[14:54] <probs> the failre was because there where 2 flash pugins installed.
[14:55] <Halitech> probs, I have the opposite, I get the video but no audio .... not that I care youtube=evil to me ~L~
[14:55] <Berserkur> Halitech: There is no difference in laptop ubuntu and desktop ubuntu apart from hardware
[14:55] <ksa_> Berserkur: it makes to me to change session, but it's the first fluxbox session
[14:56] <Berserkur> ksa_: Do you want a second fluxbox session?
[14:56] <ksa_> Berserkur: first! when i select fluxbox in gdm it takes to me an error
[14:56] <Halitech> Berserkur, I know so why it works on the laptop and not the desktop makes no sense to me at all but I seldom go to youtube (other sites all seem fine) so I don't really care and when I do get a link sent to me, I just fire up the laptop
[14:56] <dassouki> please, i need ur help my ubuntu has been offline ever since i updated to 8.10 :( kernel panic, i tried changing grub and adding intrd to it but it doesnt work :(
[14:57] <Berserkur> Halitech: Seems like a lot of trouble for just one link :)
[14:57] <Halitech> Berserkur, or use download helper to grab the file and watch it that way
[14:57] <ksa_> Berserkur: "your session only lasted less 10 seconds...."
[14:58] <Berserkur> ksa_: What is the error?
[14:58] <Halitech> Berserkur, I know but usually its up and running anyway or I just save the link for when it is running
[14:59] <Le5TaT> hello all
[14:59] <rodgrech> hi
[15:00] <Berserkur> Halitech: Maybe you have the same problem as probs. Flash installed twice
[15:00] <Berserkur> Halitech: I suggest you take a look at the firefox plug-in directory
[15:01] <probs> Halitech:   go to plugins  tools thingy in main menu,  then to plugins.  I had one for 9.x and one for 10.x flash
[15:01] <Halitech> Berserkur, I think I did check but give me a sec and I'll double check .... I'm also on Debian, not Ubuntu
[15:03] <Halitech> Berserkur, I've got flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so ... can I just delete the .so file?
[15:03] <SliderMan> i was deleting my swap partion and now my desktop wont load, anyone could help me fix it please?
[15:04] <Dreamglider> How can i restart the audio engine in ubuntu ?
[15:04] <Berserkur> Halitech: No, you need the .so file
[15:04] <ksa__> Berserkur: the file X11/xinit/xinput.d/default has all var empty (XIM, XIM_PROGRAM.. etc etc)
[15:04] <Dreamglider> im using alsa
[15:04] <ksa__> what are the value of these vars?
[15:04] <Halitech> Berserkur, ok, I checked the plugings and found I did have both as well, like probs, just disabled the version 9
[15:05] <Berserkur> Halitech: Does it work now?
[15:05] <is> i can't get my ubuntu server connected to lan, can anyone please help me
[15:05] <sipior> SliderMan: when you removed your swap partition, you changed the numbering of all the partitions that live further along the disk, cylinder-wise. how were you partitions ordered before you deleted swap?
[15:05] <Halitech> just restarting iceweasel so will let you know in a second
[15:06] <sipior> SliderMan: (also, why did you delete swap?)
[15:06] <SliderMan> sipior, it wasnt deleting anything. i deleted 4-5 and my other were 1-2-3
[15:06] <SliderMan> and the login screen is jsut fine when i login nothing happens.
[15:07] <sipior> SliderMan: what was on 4 and 5? that's two partitions, now. did you delete /home as well?
[15:07] <SliderMan> oh i made a ntfs partion
[15:07] <SliderMan> no home where number 3
[15:07] <SliderMan> and root where number 1
[15:07] <Halitech> Berserkur, now I don't even get the window to show the video
[15:07] <psychomantis> http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/elie+semoun/video/x7xwlj_il-reste-qui-qui-n-est-pas-contre-u_news
[15:08] <SliderMan> from a shell i can cd /home
[15:08] <psychomantis> http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/elie+semoun/video/x7xwlj_il-reste-qui-qui-n-est-pas-contre-u_news
[15:08] <FloodBot2> psychomantis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:08] <sipior> SliderMan: and all your files are there?
[15:08] <SliderMan> yeah
[15:08] <SliderMan> this is really wierd.
[15:08] <psychomantis> watch that link
[15:08] <psychomantis> chavez is the greatest
[15:09] <sipior> SliderMan: interesting. and you don't get any errors when you attempt to log in? does anything appear in /var/log/auth.log?
[15:09] <Halitech> Berserkur, just disabled 10 and re-enabled 9
[15:09] <nevada1920> hi ubuntu world
[15:09] <nevada1920> just got up
[15:09] <SliderMan> should i check the log file, sipior?
[15:09] <ice-nine> good morning nevada1920.  Me too..
[15:09] <sipior> SliderMan: please.
[15:09] <bazhang> psychomantis, dont paste that here
[15:09] <sipior> SliderMan: one more thing: do you still have an entry for swap in /etc/fstab?
[15:10] <psychomantis> what ?
[15:10] <SliderMan> sipior  how do i check it out?
[15:10] <Halitech> Berserkur, no go, same as before, video but no audio
[15:10] <bazhang> !ot > psychomantis
[15:10] <nevada1920> bazhang u talkin to me
[15:10] <SliderMan> wait let me check the log first.
[15:11] <SliderMan> brb
[15:11] <sipior> SliderMan: open that file up in an editor or pager, and search for the string "swap"
[15:11] <Halitech> Berserkur, but I'm not worrying about it, if it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't
[15:11] <SliderMan> sipior, which file?
[15:11] <sipior> SliderMan: /etc/fstab
[15:11] <SliderMan> ok hold on please.
[15:12] <Berserkur> Halitech: Fair enough. I don't know how it is on debian. Maybe it's more trouble since flash isn't free
[15:12] <nevada1920> ubuntu#1 ubuntu#1
[15:12] <SliderMan> sipior, using the bash what editor program can i use to view the file?
[15:13] <Berserkur> SliderMan: nano is userfriendly
[15:13] <sipior> SliderMan: nano is fine, or just use "less" to page it
[15:13] <SliderMan> ok thanks alot !
[15:13] <mariafranca_> hi, I've a problem. I installed 9.04 beta. After six hours reached to obtain something... My last problem is internet connection. I need to cofigure by pppeo protocol so, as I did in 8.04, I launched 'sudo pppoeconf'. After that the connection over internet is running.... But I've to repeat that operation 'pppoeconfig' each time also if I requested to set it at boot. Please, can somebody help me?
[15:13] <dassouki> is there a way i can update to ubuntu 8.10 from cd and terminal ?
[15:13] <SliderMan> its says /dev/sda5  - some string here swap
[15:13] <Halitech> Berserkur, well funny thing is, the laptop is also running Debian and it works and flash works on other sites that I go to .... wonder if flock or opera work with youtube .....
[15:14] <bazhang> mariafranca_, #ubuntu+1 for 9.04
[15:14] <lordjodi> hey
[15:14] <sipior> SliderMan: all right, you can remove that line. btw, you never did say why you deleted your swap partition in the first place.
[15:14] <cellofellow> what's the difference between python-vm-builder and ubuntu-vm-builder?
[15:14] <psychomantis> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:14] <aaronator> is it possible to set up a usb thumb with dual boot
[15:15] <SliderMan> because i needed place for ntfs partion my brother got mad at me because i changed to ubuntu and he wanted to use win-xp.
[15:15] <bazhang> psychomantis, please take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:15] <Berserkur> Halitech: Maybe there is some other flashplayer installed as well. Like swfdec or something
[15:16] <SliderMan> should it fix my problem now?
[15:16] <heyuxiang> hi
[15:16] <Halitech> Berserkur, I think I removed them all, just trying Flock now to see if it works, if not I'm not worrying anymore about it
[15:16] <mechtn> i'm installing ubuntu sever for the first time ever!  first ubuntu install :)
[15:17] <sipior> SliderMan: how much memory does your system have? and were there any entries in /var/log/auth.log that correspond to your attempted logins?
[15:17] <SliderMan> sipior i have 1hd with 40gb
[15:17] <SliderMan> and let me check the log, hold on please.
[15:17] <sipior> SliderMan: memory, not disk space
[15:17] <SliderMan> 256MB
[15:17] <Berserkur> Hi, I'm having trouble restoring ubuntu. I have restored ubuntu from a backup and I changed the partition table so it contains 3 primary partitions (ntfs, 83 and 84) but before the restore I had one primary, extended and two partition inside the extended. The problem is that grub seems to keep using hd0,5 even though I have changed menu.lst and specified root(hd0,1) before executing setup (hd0)
[15:17] <SliderMan> you should of said RAM
[15:18] <sipior> SliderMan: oh dear...you don't want to be removing your swap partition...
[15:18] <sipior> SliderMan: memory == ram, friend.
[15:18] <SliderMan> i would understand better if you said ram.
[15:18] <SliderMan> and when i was using swap my comp took really long to load up bc my disk is slow
[15:18] <SliderMan> and old
[15:19] <yowshi> is there a way to remove esd from ubuntu entirely. it keeps crashing and causing pidgin to crash when it does
[15:19] <perlsyntax> How can i update eclipse 3.2 on ubuntu 8.10?
[15:19] <SliderMan> sipior, wouldnt it load up with only 256MB?
[15:19] <darkvertex> Halitech: you might not have libflashsupport insyakked
[15:19] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ um, esd was replaced by pulseaudio.
[15:19] <darkvertex> *insyalled
[15:20] <darkvertex> *installed
[15:20] <yowshi> cellofellow: then why when i do a lsof |grep esd do i see a rather large list of items using esd?
[15:20] <Halitech> darkvertex, possible, let me check that although flash works on other sites
[15:20] <sipior> SliderMan: 256MB is the *bare* minimum for running ubuntu. removing your swap partition means that the computer has few options when it runs out of memory. how long did you give the machine after you tried to log in?
[15:20] <linduxed> if ive got a friend running windows, and he wants to do a git-pull from my computer what will i have to do? (i have fixed the router port forwarding and ive got samba if thats needed)
[15:21] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ pulseaudio emulates it, so stuff may be accessing esd files that pulseaudio provides. Try ps aux | grep esd (or esound) to see if it's running.
[15:21] <SliderMan> Sipior it stills "trys" to login i was switching with alt+crtl + f1 / f2
[15:21] <grawity> Hmm
[15:21] <Soyo> So I have this friend.... running Windows lol
[15:21] <grawity> What is the "bare minimum" for text-only Ubuntu?
[15:21] <sipior> grawity: very little :-)
[15:21] <SliderMan> i see my mouse i can move it around, nothing really happen there.
[15:21] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ I get esd stuff when I lsof and I know it's pulseaudio providing those services.
[15:21] <yowshi> cellofellow: i assume if it returns an entry it is running. which it did return an entry
[15:21] <bazhang> !requirements
[15:21] <perlsyntax> ?
[15:22] <Swish> doesn't ubuntu install require 256MB of RAM but that number can be reduced later?
[15:22] <yowshi> cellofellow: well i would like to stop programmes from using it. it crashes almost daily
[15:22] <Swish> CPU can be pretty slow I think :)
[15:22] <Swish> I don't see why you couldn't run it on a 100MHz CPU
[15:22] <Soyo> !money
[15:22] <SliderMan> !memory
[15:22] <SliderMan> haha
[15:23] <grawity> Hm. Does the "desktop" CD have a text-only installer?
[15:23] <aaronator> !usb
[15:23] <bazhang> grawity, the alternate installer
[15:23] <Swish> grawity, look for the "alternate installer" cd or whatever it's called
[15:23] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ well, then don't use gnome programs which almost all use gstreamer for the sound which has an esd backend.
[15:23] <bazhang> !alternate > grawity
[15:23] <SliderMan> sipior, what should i look for in the log file?
[15:23] <mehdi_> some one can tell me if there is a plugin that generates graphics in symfony ?
[15:23] <sipior> SliderMan: you'll need to establish some sort of swap space if you want to log in with anything like a reasonable delay. frankly, looking at expanding the machine's memory would be the best long-term solution.
[15:24] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ honestly esd is just part of gnome. if you want to get rid of it don't use gnome. try removing it if you want and see what happens though.
[15:24] <yowshi> cellofellow: well then i couldnt use firefox evolution pidgin or gweather. all of which are listed in the grep esd
[15:24] <harry> hola
[15:24] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ firefox??
[15:24] <SliderMan> sipior i am getting another 256mb card next week. so total of 512MB
[15:24] <yowshi> cellofellow:  firefox   24544       yoshi  mem       REG               8,18     45808  1861410 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.39
[15:24] <sipior> SliderMan: you will notice a dramatic improvement :-)
[15:24] <linduxed> if ive got a friend running windows, and he wants to do a git-pull from my computer what will i have to do? (i have fixed the router port forwarding and ive got samba if thats needed)
[15:25] <sipior> SliderMan: a swap partition or file will still be required, however.
[15:25] <SliderMan> sipior yeah this comp takes like 5mins to load up firefox.
[15:25] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ does ps aux | grep esd turn up anything
[15:25] <clancy> can anyone please help me?
[15:25] <SliderMan> should i use my other 10gb hd as swap?
[15:25] <clancy> i always get this error message when i want to install something
[15:25] <yowshi> cellofellow:  yoshi    26958  0.0  0.0   8272   880 pts/0    R+   10:21   0:00 grep esd
[15:25] <Shish_> help with sound!  got a sound blaster audigy 2 zs in my desktop that stopped working right after installing ubuntu.. still works on windows, but i hate windows...  tried all the forums and nothing worked ie.  changing settings to pulse audio, alsamixer settings, etc... help please!
[15:25] <sipior> SliderMan: you won't need that much. one or two gigs would be fine for you.
[15:25] <clancy> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/148373/
[15:26] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ I told you before that ubuntu replaced esd with pulseaudio. pulseaudio is compatible with esd, so a lot of programs haven't upgraded to using PA directly and instead use the old libesd to access it.
[15:26] <SliderMan> sipior well i dont have 2gb to spare on my hd
[15:26] <sipior> SliderMan: but sure, make a partition on that disk, and you should be all set.
[15:26] <Bhavesh2177> any idea how to echo no. of time through script
[15:26] <yowshi> cellofellow: i am guessing thats just the search
[15:26] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ yes, that's right.
[15:26] <SliderMan> sipior ill try it now, thanks alot for helping!
[15:26] <yowshi> cellofellow: well then i will uninstall pulse audio. it almost daily
[15:26] <sipior> SliderMan: yep, no trouble
[15:26] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ pulseaudio isn't the most stable around.
[15:26] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ I think there are instructions to remove it. let me check
[15:27] <yowshi> cellofellow: i cant just remove the pulseaudio entry in synaptic?
[15:27] <Bhavesh2177> i want to print blank space for no. of time through bash
[15:27] <Berserkur> yowshi: I would not recommend that
[15:28] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ not that simple, 'cause gstreamer and such need somewhere to send the sound. At the least you'll have to reconfigure stuff to directly access alsa.
[15:28] <yowshi> Berserkur: why is that
[15:28] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ PA sits between your apps and alsa, just so you know.
[15:29] <Berserkur> yowshi: I don't know what you're trying to accomplish but that would almost certainly give you more problems than solving anything
[15:29] <yowshi> Berserkur: pulse audios emulation of esd crashes damn near daily for me so i am trying to fix that issue
[15:29] <yowshi> some days it crashes multiple times
[15:30] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ PA doesn't crash daily for me but it crashes now and again, and all I need to do is run "pulseaudio" with the run dialog (or Do) and it's back.
[15:30] <morey> Hi I need some help my computer just told me I have a virus and I never have had this problem with Ubuntu before so I need to know how to deal with it
[15:30] <danfg> what runlevel should i boot into so that X doesn't run?
[15:30] <iamleneko> hi people
[15:30] <iamleneko> i was wondering if there is a way to recover an overwritten file by error ?
[15:30] <yowshi> cellofellow: specifically though it causes pidgin to crash when someting else uses the sound or tries to use the sound at the same time as pidhgin
[15:30] <pa_> how do I connect to a specific server that's not on the list?
[15:30] <Shish_> using compizconfig, and tryin to figure out how to enable the cube?!?  i enabled the settings, and its not a cube, but a 3d window... lol
[15:30] <yowshi> cellofellow: which can happen several times a day
[15:31] <sipior> morey: what program were you running to determine that you had a virus?
[15:31] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ sounds like you have pidgin trying to access alsa directly which it shouldn't be doing, it should be going through pulseaudio.
[15:31] <morey> I was just online at myspace
[15:31] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ pidgin never conflicts with PA for me.
[15:31] <sipior> morey: you're sure this wasn't some "You have a virus!!" pop-up advertising nonsense?
[15:31] <morey> yes
[15:31]  * cellofellow thinks pidgin has native pulseaudio support and doesn't go through the esd emulation.
[15:32] <yowshi> cellofellow: pidgin is configured on automatic for sound
[15:32] <morey> my computer did a scan
[15:32] <sipior> morey: then what program reported the virus?
[15:32] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ then it's your GNOME settings.
[15:32] <danfg> is there a runlevel where X is not loaded?
[15:32] <morey> I'm not sure
[15:32] <yowshi> cellofellow: yeah my sound is set to alsa which i prefer because i found it works better for everything else
[15:33] <sipior> danfg: not by default anymore, but you can set up the symlinks in /etc/rc.d to create one.
[15:33] <Bojan_BG> Ok stupid quick question, which would be the best FTP Daemon to use on a ubuntu dedicated web server ? :)
[15:33] <Xcell> mord--  do another scan and paste bin the results
[15:33] <Xcell> morey--
[15:33] <sebsebseb> !best |  Bojan_BG
[15:33] <Riya> hello sir how can i use "cout" key word in c++ programming when i use <iostrem> plz help me
[15:33] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ but the trouble with alsa is it's a bit dodgy on its hardware or software mixing support which pulseaudio rocks at. Conflicts abound when you do that. If only 1 process is accessing alsa, in this case pulseaudio, it makes things a lot simpler.
[15:33] <Kelebekv6Script7> W..W..W..askim...C..O..M..T..R
[15:33] <Kelebekv6Script7> W..W..W..askim...C..O..M..T..R
[15:33] <danfg> sipior: what runlevel do u suggest i use for not having X loaded? i mean, which runlevel links should i remove?
[15:33] <Kelebekv6Script7> W..W..W..askim...C..O..M..T..R
[15:33] <FloodBot2> Kelebekv6Script7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:34] <LjL> Riya: try asking in ##c++
[15:34] <Riya> hello sir how can i use "cout" key word in c++ programming when i use <iostrem> plz help me
[15:34] <Bojan_BG> sebsebseb, I really don't want to get into that, but im just asking for someone's opinion who had some exeprience with setting up a FTP server
[15:34] <MrElendig> Riya: isn't it std::iostream ?
[15:34] <hemanth> GHOST
[15:34] <sebsebseb> !ftp |  Bojan_BG
[15:34] <yowshi> cellofellow: well pulse audio doesnt even make a test sound in the sound settings hence my use of alsa. pulse has never worked properly for me in the past
[15:34] <Bojan_BG> !FTPd
[15:34] <hanasaki> trying to connect evolution to exchange over an https squid proxy however it doesn't look like evolution even is htting the proxy...
[15:34] <hanasaki> how do I get evolution to use my http squid proxy to the internet for exchange?
[15:35] <sipior> danfg: doesn't matter; anything but 2. simply ensure that the S-prefixed link to /etc/init.d/gdm is not present.
[15:35] <Bojan_BG> ok I picked FTPD ! :)
[15:35] <morey> Does Ubuntu have a program to run that I can test my computer for virus?
[15:35] <sebsebseb> !virus |  morey
[15:35] <clearscreen> Riya: you should try #c++, but to answer your question, you use it like so: std::cout << "Hi";
[15:35] <sipior> danfg: you can just change it from S30gdm to K30gdm, for example
[15:35] <grawity> morey: ClamAV maybe ... but I don't believe you have one on Ubuntu.
[15:35] <cellofellow> yowshi➜ like I've said before, most gnome apps expect an esd-compatible sound server so removing it will only confuse them. If you want to remove pulse then go ahead, google it. I've gotten pulse working fine for me (except Audacity but Jokosher looks promising).
[15:35] <sebsebseb> morey: yes you can use  clamav or some such to scan Windows for viruses
[15:36] <Riya> i mean "cout<<"hello "; " is not working in terminal . how can i use it what is #c++
[15:36] <danfg> sipior: i'll pick 3 then. are there any major differences between the functionality of the runlevels? i mean, will i miss something if i use runlevel 3?
[15:36] <morey> thansk
[15:36] <morey> thanks*
[15:36] <grawity> danfg: I think there isn't any difference anymore.
[15:36] <grawity> !runlevels
[15:36] <sipior> danfg: you can make sure that /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d are identical, save for the change to the gdm symlink. they should then be exactly the same.
[15:36] <Riya> i mean "cout<<"hello "; " is not working in terminal . how can i use it what is #c++
[15:37] <gnu-dio> hi, I'm still trying to find a solution to a video/audio sync problem I'm having. The files I need to edit are encoded with 44.1k audio, but Kino (and everything else I've tried so far) imports them as 48k audio, and so they get out of sync. Can someone help find me a workaround so I can stop editing video in windows?
[15:37] <LjL> Riya: it cannot work "in terminal" if by terminal you mean the linux shell, as it's a C++ instruction. #c++ is an IRC channel, just like this one.
[15:37] <sipior> danfg: save for running X, of course :-)
[15:37] <danfg> grawity, sipior: ok, thanks a lot guys :)
[15:38] <Riya> is any possible to use  cout in c++ programming
[15:38] <_Rocket> is there any console player with a spectrum analyzer? i think i had one, but i don't remember it's name
[15:39] <sebsebseb> Riya: you would be better off asking your questions in #c++
[15:39] <sebsebseb> Riya:  /join #c++
[15:39] <clearscreen> Riya: your question has been answered twice now, and you're still in the wrong channel
[15:39] <Guest88549> hola
[15:39] <Guest88549> help
[15:40] <POPEYE> yep there is no floppy in 8.10
[15:40] <morey> Can anybody walk me through running a windows based program on ubuntu. I have a Palm pilot and the program that comes with it wont load. So I put it through Wine, and it told me there was an error.
[15:40] <kitikri> hey guys, are there any mysql gurus in here? :D
[15:40] <sebsebseb> kitikri: wrong channel try #mysql
[15:41] <kitikri> ok, many thanks :)
[15:41] <Metal|AFK> bai
[15:42] <POPEYE> why there in no floppy any more?
[15:42] <minus> Is there a specific channel for 9.04?
[15:42] <melik> minus, #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <hemanth> IDENTIFY
[15:43] <hemanth> INFO
[15:43] <scunizi> morey: there are sync tools built into evolution for the palm if that is what you're trying to do.
[15:43] <hemanth> REGISTER
[15:43] <morey> I understand that, but I have a software disk for my palm that I can't get to load
[15:43] <grawity> hemanth: Wrong window.
[15:44] <sipior> hemanth: try a "/" first
[15:44] <hemanth> grawity, oops sorry
[15:44] <hemanth> sipior, sorry
[15:44] <sipior> hemanth: no worries
[15:44] <hemanth> sipior, grawity , i have registered my nick already , but i m not able to join #python :(
[15:45] <bazhang> hemanth, you need to identify to services
[15:45] <grawity> hemanth: But you didn't log in. Try /msg nickserv identify hemanth <password>
[15:45] <hemanth> bazhang, grawity ill try hold on :)
[15:46] <pc> /msg nickserv identify <password>, methinks
[15:46] <hmw> how can I replace the string /var/log/xyz with $LOGFILE in vim? the / cause problems with :s/replacethis/bythat
[15:46] <hemanth> bazhang, grawity Invalid password for hemanth , its saying but the pwd is correct i'm sure
[15:47] <pc> hemanth: which syntax did you use?
[15:47] <bazhang> hemanth, ask in #freenode then
[15:47] <grawity> hemanth: .... did you type the <> things too? (Sorry, I had to ask)
[15:47] <pc> /msg nickserv identify <password>
[15:47] <sipior> hmw: escape them with a backslash
[15:47] <hmw> how can I replace the string /var/log/xyz with $LOGFILE in vim? the / cause problems with :s/replacethis/bythat ... i tried to escaoe the slashes: :s/\/var\/log... but it says "pattern not found"
[15:48] <hemanth> grawity, i have type my pwd not <> :)
[15:48] <grawity> hemanth: either :s/\/var\/log\/xyz/$LOGFILE/ -- or :s!/var/log/xyz!$LOGFILE! -- I think should work too.
[15:48] <pc> hmw: :s;/var/log/xyz;\$LOGFILE;g
[15:48] <hmw> aah... thanks
[15:48] <antonio_> polla
[15:48] <hemanth> grawity, can i reset by pwd?
[15:49] <hemanth> grawity, will they mail me ?
[15:49] <grawity> hemanth: Ask in #freenode.
[15:49] <hmw> pc: still pattern not found
[15:49] <hemanth> grawity, ok
[15:50] <Shish_> ive followed all the proper steps to making my desktop cube a cube, but its a cylinder!!!  what did i do wrong!!? lol
[15:50] <grawity> So back to Ubuntu. In the "minimal" installer CD, I see an option to "Load installer components from CD". So if I have a "desktop" CD of the same Ubuntu release, would the installer be able to use the files from it?
[15:50] <pc> hmw: :s;/var/log/xyz;\$LOGFILE;g
[15:50] <mechtn> openssh-server the best ssh server to install for ubuntu server ?
[15:51] <pc> hmw: ^that just worked for me
[15:51] <scunizi> Shish_: cylinder?  wow that would be cool
[15:51] <grawity> mechtn: yes.
[15:51] <scunizi> mechtn: yep
[15:51] <Shish_> scunizi, yea it was cool for a bit.. lol
[15:51] <scunizi> Shish_: the cube is like that too.. after a while it doesn't grow on you
[15:51] <mechtn> scunizi, grawity:  thx :)
[15:52] <mechtn> installing now :)
[15:52] <deany> i like this (Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 700MB CD)
[15:53] <DRMacIver> I'm having fun trying to get wireless working under intrepid ibex. I have an atheros 802.11b card. I've got ath5k installed from linux-backports-modules-intrepid. The wireless card seems to be "working", but it's not reporting any wireless networks. (either in network manager or iwlist scan). Any suggestions?
[15:53] <deany> wrong chann, supposed to be in +1 :)
[15:54] <DRMacIver> I used to have madwifi installed a while ago, and I'm wondering if there might be something left over from that confusing things. I found a blacklist for ath5k from it and have disabled that. Don't know what else could be doing it.
[15:54] <Shish_> scunizi i love it tho, to have it to show off to everyone else who doesnt believe in ubuntu/linux
[15:54] <kickar> Hi. How can i install iptables and kmyfirewall ?
[15:54] <Shish_> lol
[15:55] <Typh> Anyone know how to hide certain file extensions in nautilus?
[15:55] <Typh> pyc files drive me crazy
[15:56] <Shish_> and how do i highlgiht ur name like ur highlighting mine?
[15:56] <mikechelen> sort by file type?
[15:56] <phix> magma
[15:57] <scunizi> Shish_: include the nick in the line.. type the first few characters and hit TAB to auto complete
[15:57] <mikechelen> Shish_, just type it and it is automatically highlighted
[15:57] <Typh> I'd prefer to hide them totally. Like automatically mark them as hidden or something.
[15:57] <Shish_> scunizi: thank you
[15:57] <Shish_> mikechelen: thanks
[15:57] <Shish_> lol
[15:57] <scunizi> works Shish_
[15:57] <Shish_> so bout the cube?
[15:57] <FloodBot2> Shish_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <scunizi> Shish_: did you install ccsm?
[15:58] <kitchenrange> How would i set up a static ip on ubuntu?
[15:58] <Helder> http://bloodlines.mybrute.com/   << Beat me in this cute game and original game :) Its totally random! Try it out guys
[15:59] <sipior> Helder: go away.
[15:59] <bazhang> Helder, not here
[15:59] <Helder> Sory xD
[15:59] <Typh> Helder: Ok awesome thanks for sharing ^-^ ^-^
[15:59] <Shish_> scunizi:  yessir, installed that, then went into it, and enabled desktop cube, 3d cube, disabled the desktop background thing, put up 4 workspaces on the bottom left
[15:59] <Typh> sigh
[15:59] <kromium> what is the name of project which was created for teaching linux kernel architecture to novice users? kernel-voyage** something?
[16:00] <scunizi> Shish_: ah.. the workspaces on the bottom left don't do much with cube.. the workspaces are adjusted in ccsm
[16:00] <kromium> i dont remember, i heard it somewhere
[16:00] <Helder> http://bloodlines.mybrute.com/   << Beat me in this cute game and original game :) Its totally random! Try it out guys
[16:01] <Shish_> scunizi: yea i was reading a forum that said not to do the ccsm option, but to do the bottom right?  anyways, i tried both ways, they are both adjusted together anyways...?
[16:01] <kromium> anybody aware of such project?
[16:01] <sipior> kromium: kernelnewbies.org?
[16:01] <rsloma> Quick question..  Just installed wine and the text in the dialog boxes do not want to show up?  Any idea why?  Even happens with the wine configuration.  Apps seem to be ok.
[16:01] <kromium> sipior: let me check thanks
[16:02] <scunizi> Shish_: under general settings/Desktop size put 4 1 1
[16:02] <POPEYE> Is there anybody who has problems with login screen resolution?
[16:02] <Shish_> scunizi: 411, set -- still a weird cylinder... lol
[16:03] <drostie> How would I persuade aptitude to give me a list of all of the recommended packages that haven't yet been installed?
[16:03] <scunizi> Shish_: I'm stuck.. you might ask in #ubuntu-effects which actually takes you to #compiz I think
[16:03] <Riya> what is different between <iostream> and <iostream.h>
[16:04] <Shish_> scunizi: sorry for this question, how do i get there? lol what do i type?
[16:04] <sipior> Riya: this isn't a discussion channel for c++ programmers, friend.
[16:04] <scunizi> Shish_: type /join #ubuntu-effects
[16:04] <Shish_> scunizi: thank you so much for ur time, really appreciate it!
[16:04] <Shish_> .join #ubuntu-effects
[16:04] <scunizi> Shish_: np :)
[16:05] <scunizi> Shish_: don't forget the /
[16:05] <bahadunn> is there an ubuntu ati channel?
[16:05] <Shish_> scunizi: hahahaha, woops... lol thanks
[16:05] <hatter243> .
[16:05] <SliderMan> sipior, my dekstop still wont load up.
[16:05] <SliderMan> i got 2gb swap now?
[16:06] <sipior> SliderMan: how did you make the swap partition? and did you activate it with swapon?
[16:06] <SliderMan> sipior, is there a special way for making it?
[16:06] <sipior> SliderMan: nope
[16:06] <kromium> good reference here: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_kernel/kernel_configuration/
[16:07] <SliderMan> sipior so i made a new partion in fdisk and then i changed its type to swap
[16:07] <SliderMan> btw real thanks for helping out.
[16:07] <sipior> SliderMan: and did you use swapon? "sudo swapon <swap device>"
[16:07] <SliderMan> i just figured out it wasnt saving the changes.
[16:07] <SliderMan> sipior i didnt use
[16:08] <sipior> SliderMan: did you replace the swap line in your /etc/fstab?
[16:08] <sipior> SliderMan: or did you just use the same partition as before?
[16:08] <bytor4232> I have a rather dumb question, since when have you been able to slide up and down aloung the right side of a touchpad and have it act like a mouse wheel?
[16:09] <scunizi> bytor4232: :).. you can activate the horizontal scroll too
[16:09] <cowboy24634> hi there. can someone help me plz? yesterday I activated the orca-monitor-loupe. but it always crashes ubuntu at loading. and now I can't login into my account anymore bc it always loads orca... help plz?
[16:10] <bytor4232> scunizi: Orly?  That is nifty.  I acidentally scrolled yesterday on one lappy, thought it was cool, then tried it on my second lappy.  How nifty!
[16:10] <bytor4232> scunizi: I'll have to check out the horizontal scroll.  Is this a new feature in the synaptics driver?
[16:11] <bytor4232> scunizi: Or did I just never notice it before.
[16:11] <SliderMan> sipior, 82 is the time i should use right?
[16:11] <SliderMan> type**
[16:11] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I am trying to use a png file as a program icon by using System|Preferences|Main Menu and then browsing for the file but it doesnt appear in the file selection window when I browse to the correct directory. Are there any particular requirements for png files to be used as icons?
[16:11] <scunizi> bytor4232: either the synaptics or wacom..probably synaptics
[16:11] <sipior> SliderMan: yep
[16:11] <sipior> SliderMan: what device is your swap partition?
[16:12] <SliderMan> sipior some how sda2 and sda5 has the same count
[16:12] <SliderMan> 4864-5005
[16:12] <SliderMan> for both
[16:13] <dante123> hi all, I have an evga 650i mobo that says it it has the following :  PCIE Slot 1 x PCIe x16, 2 x PCIe x1, 3 x PCI  (Does this mean that the PCIE x16 slot is not version 2.0)???   In other words, how do I tell if I have pcie 2.0 or not?
[16:13] <dante123> hwinfo does not tell me
[16:14] <sipior> SliderMan: can you pastebin your partition table?
[16:15] <SliderMan> sipior, i dont think so
[16:15] <sipior> SliderMan: why not?
[16:15] <SliderMan> or if there is a way please tell me how and ill.
[16:15] <SliderMan> because i am using bash
[16:15] <sipior> !paste > SliderMan
[16:15] <SliderMan> no graphics
[16:15] <scunizi> dante123: if nobody knows you might ask in #hardware
[16:15] <sipior> SliderMan: oh sure, just apt-get "pastebinit" and use that
[16:15] <SliderMan> ok, how do i use it?
[16:16] <sipior> SliderMan: so, try "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[16:16] <Makzu> Hi, I have a new computer with multiple sound cards, and I can't get sound from any files in Totem.  Every other application I've tried so far works, but Totem doesn't
[16:16] <Makzu> I can play the files in Banshee and they sound great
[16:16] <dante123> scunizi, I have....very dull and slow in there....so i thought Id ask here and then say "hwinfo tells me nothing" in case anyone said I was off topic :-)
[16:16] <stickystyle> What's the best way to monitor a specific package's changelog?  There are a couple packages that I have backported from jaunty to dapper that I would like to keep an eye on for changes.
[16:16] <curtisw> Anyone have experience with CalemEAM
[16:17] <Makzu> I even get test tones from the 'sound preferences' app... where do I go to change the sound system option for Totem?
[16:17] <NSR> can sum1 help me install smartnav on 9.04?
[16:18] <SliderMan> sipior, it gives me IOERROR socket error
[16:19] <SliderMan> "name or service not known"
[16:19] <sipior> SliderMan: the network is fine on this machine?
[16:19] <SliderMan> yeah i can use bitchx just fine, and talk to you to guide me.
[16:20] <sipior> SliderMan: i wondered if you had a second machine. is /dev/sda not the correct disk? /dev/sdb, perhaps?
[16:20] <SliderMan> sipior, i forgot the other HD wasnt good. so i dont use it
[16:21] <SliderMan> sipior, i just wanna get the old table back. and get it working again
[16:21] <sipior> SliderMan: i notice you didn't answer my question.
[16:21] <SliderMan> sipior , which?
[16:21] <SliderMan> sipior , mind asking again?
[16:21] <sipior> SliderMan: is /dev/sda in fact the correct disk?
[16:21] <cowboy24634> hi there. can someone help me with the orca-software in ubuntu 8.10 please?
[16:21] <SliderMan> sipior , i believe so, there is no other disks connected.
[16:21] <Makzu> Does anyone know how I can get Totem to play audio again?
[16:22] <SliderMan> sipior , and thats the only device fdisk -l shows.
[16:22] <sipior> SliderMan: what about sfdisk?
[16:22] <SliderMan> sipior, let me try hold on please.
[16:22] <sipior> SliderMan: what does sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda show?
[16:23] <yowshi> god dammit ppidgin just crashed again thanks to pulse audio
[16:23] <SliderMan> sipior gives nothing.
[16:23] <iQxer0> im having a problem, i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open terminal or gedit, it goes the the other desktop
[16:23] <sipior> SliderMan: could you show me precisely the command you typed?
[16:24] <SliderMan> sipior, sfdisk -l
[16:24] <SliderMan> sipior, sfdisk -l / fdisk -l gives me the disk table
[16:24] <yowshi> is there on way to force pulse to reload like you can alsa?
[16:24] <iQxer0> anyone have idea with my problem ?
[16:24] <iQxer0> im having a problem, i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open terminal or gedit, it goes the the other desktop
[16:24] <sipior> SliderMan: the command i suggested was sfdisk -l /dev/sda. try the whole thing.
[16:24] <yowshi> although that would [kill pidgin anyway
[16:24] <SliderMan> sipior, ok.
[16:25] <Idhan> is there any game like starcraft for linux?
[16:25] <iQxer0> FreeRa > its a redalert for linux :S
[16:25] <Makzu> Idhan: I think wine plays starcraft really well
[16:25] <iQxer0> yea.. i think its on platinum board..
[16:25] <TML> On a terminal, "Control-LAlt-Shift F1" goes to tty11; "Control-LAlt-Shift F5" goes to tty15; How can I make "Control-RAlt F5" send the same set of keycodes as "Control-LAlt-Shift F5"?
[16:26] <SliderMan> sipior, same as fdisk -l
[16:26] <iQxer0> err.. i need help :S
[16:26] <SliderMan> sipior, just that there is more /sdas
[16:26] <iQxer0> i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open terminal or gedit, it goes the the other desktop
[16:26] <Idhan> Makzu: but a linux game.. I just want to try a linux game..
[16:26] <SliderMan> sipior, 1-5
[16:26] <sipior> SliderMan: okay, and when you pipe that to pastebinit?
[16:26] <iQxer0> it doesnt open in the desktop that i open, it goes to the other..
[16:26] <Riya> sorry sir . help me . i am studying  MCA . i have a Q that to write a program to shutdown server frm clnt . plz help . this is my assignment
[16:26] <prabha> please clear my doubt
[16:26] <g4lt-lappy> IdentifyTarget, tehre was some work on a port, called craft, but it really was more aimed at warcraft
[16:26] <SliderMan> sipior, sfdsik -l /dev/sda
[16:27] <SliderMan> sipior, sfdsik -l /dev/sda
[16:27] <SliderMan> ops
[16:27] <sipior> Riya: isn't this why you have an instructor?
[16:27] <iQxer0> hmm..
[16:27] <g4lt-lappy> Idhan, ^^^^
[16:27] <SliderMan> sipior, sfdsik -l /dev/sda | pastebinit gives me an IOERROR
[16:27] <iQxer0> i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open terminal or gedit, it goes the the other desktop
[16:27] <iQxer0> any idea ?
[16:27] <iQxer0> anyone ?
[16:28] <UbuntuMe> Hi, i just installed ubuntu 8.10.. all's fine.. But I cant connect to the Net
[16:28] <Brack101>  If I've set an option for a filesystem in /etc/fstab is there some way to verify whether or not it's actually working?
[16:28] <dillizaar> UbuntuMe then how are you on irc?? :)
[16:28] <iQxer0> fdisk -lu
[16:28] <jdwarta> lol
[16:29] <Makzu> Does anyone know why totem wouldn't play any sound while every other app plays sound fine?
[16:29] <SliderMan> he probb has another machine
[16:29] <prabha> how to get nero in ubuntu
[16:29] <iQxer0> Brack101: fdisk -lu .. i think it should shw it..
[16:29] <UbuntuMe> dillizaar: this is my desktop... :D
[16:29] <sipior> SliderMan: try this: "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda > sda.txt", and then "pastebinit -f sda.txt"
[16:29] <YixilTesiphon1> how do I get pulseaudio to let ALSA control my mixer?
[16:29] <Riya> sorry sir . help me . i am studying  MCA . i have a Q that to write a program to shutdown server frm clnt . plz help . this is my assignment
[16:29] <dillizaar> UbuntuMe  ok tell me the kind of the connection
[16:29] <YixilTesiphon1> installed some updates and now I don't have any sound because pulseaudio controls audio i/o
[16:29] <SliderMan> sipior, ok
[16:29] <Riya> sorry sir . help me . i am studying  MCA . i have a Q that to write a program to shutdown server frm clnt . plz help . this is my assignment
[16:29] <iQxer0> prabha, u have brasero disk burner..
[16:29] <iQxer0> its good enuf.. :)
[16:29] <Brack101> iqxer0...nah
[16:30] <hanasaki> "enter password for default keyring"  what is this?  is this per user or is it for the system and how do I reset it?  I can run seahorse and it doesn't neeed a password to access things
[16:30] <Riya> sorry sir . help me . i am studying  MCA . i have a Q that to write a program to shutdown server frm clnt . plz help . this is my assignment
[16:30] <sipior> Riya: ask your teacher, not us.
[16:30] <Riya> sorry sir . help me . i am studying  MCA . i have a Q that to write a program to shutdown server frm clnt . plz help . this is my assignment
[16:30] <COiN> hello
[16:30] <UbuntuMe> dillizaar: i am using a wired adsl connection... my laptop is dual boot type.. My vista seems like no prob.. but the ubuntu cant connect
[16:30] <Picassotamus> Riya: Sounds like you need to to some studying
[16:30] <sipior> Riya: and this is why the IRC gods gave us /ignore
[16:30] <SliderMan> sipior, -f gave me the usuage thing, -i sda.txt gave me socket error again.
[16:30] <dillizaar> UbuntuMe did you try sudo pppoeconf
[16:31] <COiN> is there any possibility to connect from ubuntu to an ms exchange 2007 server ?
[16:31] <sipior> SliderMan: show me the precise line you typed, please
[16:31] <iQxer0> err, guys.. cud u help my issue ?
[16:31] <Chowder_> so I just installed Ubuntu minimal and I'm trying to get e17 to work. I first tried to get X to work by using xinit and my screen just gets scrambled. Any ideas?
[16:31] <iQxer0> i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open terminal or gedit, it goes the the other desktop
[16:31] <malik_> hi all
[16:31] <iQxer0> i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open terminal or gedit, it goes to the other desktop
[16:31] <vitaliy_> hey guys can someone please help me with my driver and setup compiz i have ubuntu 8.10
[16:31] <UbuntuMe> dillizaar: currently i have only one adsl cable.. so do u have to plug in the cable into the laptop before i try this command...
[16:31] <dillizaar> yes
[16:31] <dillizaar> and wait
[16:31] <iQxer0> i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open an application in Screen1, it goes to Screen 2
[16:31] <malik_> how can i mount my second  sata drive to the /media. which i have just installed in my computer with  ubuntu
[16:31] <SliderMan> sipior, pastebinit -f sda.txt gave me the usuage thing pastebinit -i sda.txt gave me the soceket error.
[16:32] <dillizaar> UbuntuMe then next next next user name pass and you are done easy as that
[16:32] <Picassotamus> !repeat | iQxer0
[16:32] <COiN> is there any possibility to connect from ubuntu to an ms exchange 2007 server ?
[16:32] <iQxer0> hmm.. :S
[16:32] <sipior> SliderMan: interesting, looks like a bug in pastebinit...
[16:32] <Chowder_> COiN: maybe with Samba, but I'm not really sure
[16:33] <prabha> iQxer0, but i don't have knowledge about brasero then only i want to install nero
[16:33] <SliderMan> sipior,or maybe my perl
[16:33] <sipior> SliderMan: the man page is incorrect as well, lovely.
[16:33] <SliderMan> ?
[16:33] <sipior> SliderMan: no, it's not you, and it runs on python, not perl.
[16:33] <Behappy> I have installed ubunto in an external USB  2.5 HDD but always I can't boot it in other PC I have bios configured to boot on usb device first but no result can any one tell me how to resolve this problem
[16:33] <SliderMan> sipior, any bash web browsers?
[16:33] <iQxer0> prabha: its pretty simple to play with it.. like u learned nero learn it..
[16:33] <UbuntuMe> dillizaar: Huh... what do you mean..
[16:33] <sipior> SliderMan: yeah, you can try "links"
[16:33] <SliderMan> or maybe join another channel so i can paste it here?
[16:33] <COiN> is samba not for sharepoint ?
[16:34] <SliderMan> ok hold on
[16:34] <sipior> SliderMan: oyu know what just /msg me, it'll be easier...
[16:34] <malik_> how can i mount my second  sata drive to the /media. which i have just installed in my computer with  ubuntu
[16:34] <iQxer0> is there another help channel ?
[16:34] <Chowder_> COiN: I'm not sure, google Samba
[16:34] <COiN> just wait a few sec, thanks
[16:34] <Chowder_> so I just installed Ubuntu minimal and I'm trying to get e17 to work. I first tried to get X to work by using xinit and my screen just gets scrambled. Any ideas?
[16:34] <prabha> i want to try nero in ubuntu
[16:35] <scarlaa> :)
[16:35] <rhineheart_m> hello..I need support in configuring cups so that I can access it from a machine in a lan.. ty
[16:35] <rhineheart_m> via web gui..
[16:35] <Chowder_> prabha: if you want to use nero in Ubuntu then you have to use it through WINE. Your best bet is to use a native Linux application like Brasero or acetoneiso2. If you're looking to burn DVDs there are plenty of applications if you just took the time to look.
[16:35] <nutzer_ab> how can i tell whether i'm on i386 or amd64?
[16:36] <Elda> Hello
[16:36] <xray7224> hello elda
[16:36] <deany> nerolinux
[16:36] <rhineheart_m> uname -a
[16:36] <COiN> samba does not work for that
[16:36] <rhineheart_m> nutzer_ab, uname -a
[16:36] <Elda> Hiya
[16:36] <COiN> any other idea ?
[16:36] <deany> altho k3b is great.
[16:37] <malik_> how can i mount my second  sata drive to the /media. which i have just installed in my computer with  ubuntu
[16:37] <Chowder_> has no one installed Ubuntu from the bottom up?
[16:37] <nutzer_ab> 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 20:53:41 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:37] <Chowder_> nutzer_ab: you're on 64 bit
[16:37] <rhineheart_m> Number7_, you're in 64-bit OS
[16:37] <Elda> !Elda Offtopic
[16:37] <Elda> bah
[16:38] <Elda> How do IFind the off topic room?
[16:38] <iQxer0> prabha: u might want to see : http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-linux3-trial.php
[16:38] <nutzer_ab> so kype tells me it wont install on 64. Can I do anything about that?
[16:38] <Elda> *I find
[16:38] <xray7224> malik_, id add it to fstab then run mount -t <file sys> <path to drive> <path to dir> but im not sure if thats advniced
[16:38] <xray7224> !offtopic @ Elda
[16:38] <xray7224> stupid bot
[16:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿Elda:  #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:38] <xray7224> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:38] <rhineheart_m> anybody who uses CUPS here as network printer?
[16:38] <Elda> thanks :)
[16:38] <Elda> Seems I forgot the -
[16:38] <Chowder_> nutzer_ab: not really, unless you want to try to compile it yourself
[16:38] <pwnedulongtime> how do I get the attention animation to work in awn?
[16:38] <nutzer_ab> I guess I can't can I
[16:38] <Chowder_> pwnedulongtime: get the awn manager
[16:38] <nutzer_ab> do you have the skype sources :-)
[16:38] <Feddozz>  Hello guys I have a problem with skype. when I try to make any calls it sais problems with audio playback
[16:39] <Chowder_> nutzer_ab: like I said if you compile it from source then you MAY be able to specify x86_64
[16:39] <iQxer0> i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open an application in Screen1, it goes to Screen 2
[16:39] <iQxer0> any idea ?
[16:40] <nutzer_ab> @chowder: the thing is I don't think you will get the skype sources.
[16:40] <Chowder_> nutzer_ab: only one way to find out. Google it.
[16:41] <iQxer0> i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open an application in Screen1, it goes to Screen 2
[16:42] <hanasaki> in evolution is there a way to make an offline mail folder like on outlook ?  like when the mailserver is full so move some to a local pst?
[16:42] <Chowder_> iQxer0: most likely no one here knows. You've asked like three times
[16:42] <prabha> thank you iQxer0
[16:42] <iQxer0> prabha: ur most welcome
[16:42] <iQxer0> prabha: u can find a keygen for nero 7 and use it : have a full version running :P
[16:43] <Downing> Heya, I got some sort of problem. I use "Kopete" for messenger. And sometimes the pop up windows freeze *rarely* and I've got no idea how to fix that problem without rebooting pc. Like this http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6880/eugh.png
[16:43] <malik_> xray7224: I can see the drive in dolphin console but when i try to mount it it says invalid option..
[16:43] <Chowder_> Downing: try running Kopete in a terminal and then pastebin the output.
[16:43] <prabha> u mean nero7 in window
[16:43] <Downing> how do I do that
[16:43] <Downing> :}
[16:43] <sysdoc> iQxer0, I had the same problem with Pidgen 2 days ago and a reboot solved it. Have no idea what was going on tho.
[16:44] <iQxer0> :S sysdoc
[16:44] <sysdoc> Yea was weird
[16:44] <iQxer0> which was weird sysdoc  ?
[16:45] <sysdoc> Twin view prob you mentioned
[16:45] <iQxer0> but am having the problem with all progs almost..
[16:45] <iQxer0> i think i've to add something to my xorg configuration
[16:46] <iQxer0> so that the windows open in there own screen..
[16:46] <iQxer0> :S
[16:46] <sysdoc> nvidia? did you just do the nvidia driver update?
[16:46] <Dillizar> !envy > vitaliy_
[16:46] <duxbarak> what's a good dvd ripping program that handles DRM?
[16:47] <UbuntuMe> hi, does anyone else has managed to solve the wired connection problem in 8.10.. Even during I came up upon a whole of pple wif this prob
[16:47] <Dillizar> UbuntuMe sudo pppoeconf didnt worked
[16:47] <Dillizar> !envy > vitaliy_
[16:47] <UbuntuMe> Dillizar: gg offline now
[16:48] <vitaliy_> !envy > vitaliy_
[16:48] <prabha> iQxer0:how to make a movie in ubuntu like windows movie maker
[16:48] <Dillizar> UbuntuMe i didnt understood
[16:48] <iQxer0> prabha: uh oh!! no idea :S i just came for help here..
[16:49] <kepi> what prob @ ubuntume
[16:49] <iQxer0> prabha: wish i was a pro, so i cud help u out.. do some google :)
[16:49] <prabha> iQxer0:ok
[16:49] <iQxer0> prabha: got a solution for u > Kdenlive
[16:50] <iQxer0> prabha: use Kdenlive its a good one :)
[16:50] <hp> mo mo
[16:50] <iQxer0> prabha: its pretty similar to windows movie maker > http://www.kdenlive.org/
[16:50] <iQxer0> :)
[16:50] <iQxer0> im doin pretty good as a helper :D
[16:50] <iQxer0> hehe..
[16:50] <iQxer0> though im not gettin a solution for my problem :S
[16:51] <prabha> iQxer0:thank you i must try it soon
[16:51] <iQxer0> prabha: good
[16:51] <kusanagi_> sound works with vlc but not in flash... im using 9.04 (it didnt work either using 8.10, i upgraded hoping somehow it work it out :S) im reading the forum but im still the same
[16:51] <Picassotamus> !jaunty | kusanagi_
[16:52] <kusanagi_> thanks
[16:52] <iQxer0> prabha: to install kdenlive > "sudo apt-get install kdenlive dvgrab frei0r swh-plugins libfaad0"
[16:54] <sysdoc> iQxer0, are you using a separate X session?
[16:55] <iQxer0> im using default X session..
[16:58] <iQxer0> sysdoc: got dc..
[16:58] <iQxer0> hmm, u was sayin ?
[16:58] <gletob> Anybody know how to install G++ 3.
[16:58] <sysdoc> iQxer0, try using separate X sessions
[16:58] <gletob> Anybody know how to install G++ 3.4
[16:59] <iQxer0> how to do that sir ?
[16:59] <sysdoc> iQxer0, nvidia?
[16:59] <iQxer0> ati
[16:59] <iQxer0> im using aticonfig tool
[16:59] <sysdoc> ack
[17:00] <malik_> how can i repair a HPFS/NTFS Partition in ubuntu
[17:00] <timc> Hey, I am on 8.10. I want to use 9.04's version of Okular. How do I do this?
[17:00] <malik_> if it is not mounting properly
[17:00] <prabha> iQxer0:in windows we use tvc(total video converter) i want to perform similar operations in ubuntu..how?
[17:01] <iQxer0> timc: u can use apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:01] <iQxer0> timc: 9.04 is in beta phase , so use at ur own risk :)
[17:01] <Dillizar> timc on for few more days i am sure cant do anything more :D
[17:01] <iQxer0> prabha: u sure is a pain in the ass :D kiddin .. hehe
[17:01] <iQxer0> prabha: hold on..
[17:02] <timc> thanks iQxer0. is there any way to just upgrade that one application?
[17:02] <timc> say by messing around with my software sources
[17:03] <aboleth> hi
[17:03] <iQxer0> timc: cud u be more specific
[17:03] <aboleth> is anyone familiar with the joystick problem in 8.10?
[17:04] <UbuntuMe> Dillizar: hi, i tried that command... and as it was running.. at one point, it wanted some username for PPP login.. whats that
[17:04] <timc> i use KDE's PDF reader, Okular. I would like to use 9.10's version of Okular.
[17:04] <timc> without installing the 9.10 beta.
[17:05] <UbuntuMe> Is this a bug in 8.10, where the wired connection, doesnt work automatically... Hope they fix it in 9.05
[17:05] <iQxer0> timc: that wouldn't be possible, libraries would not be compatible, so it would generate errors..
[17:05] <macho_> hi plp
[17:06] <troll> Hi I'm new to Linux, is there a gps program i can download?
[17:06] <kepi> ubuntu, what do u mean? i use wired connection sometimes
[17:06] <macho_> anyone know about wine for ubuntu 8.04
[17:06] <iQxer0> prabha: http://www.sciallo.net/modules/archivio/archivi/MultimediaConverter/Convertit.deb
[17:06] <timc> thanks iQxer0. night
[17:06] <troll> I use wine all of the time
[17:07] <UbuntuMe> I still have a prob connecting to internet via wired connection in 8.10.. Has someone in the channel have a walkaround thru this.. There seems to all sorts of conflicting "help" in googled forums...
[17:07] <iQxer0> timc: nights..
[17:07] <UbuntuMe> kepi: did u install some drivers or something before connecting to the internet
[17:07] <macho_> how do i detele the file in the progerm folder in wine
[17:07] <kepi> ubuntume, no i didint
[17:07] <kepi> didnt8
[17:07] <iQxer0> sysdoc: u there sir ?
[17:07] <aboleth> does anyone know about the joystick problem?
[17:07] <kepi> damn
[17:07] <prabha> how to use flash in ubuntu?
[17:07] <aboleth> it detects them as mice
[17:08] <rickest> macho_: ~/.wine/drive_c probably
[17:08] <aboleth> fixes which ive seen havent worked
[17:08] <sysdoc> UbuntuMe, What I do is to rt clk the network icon in the panel and choose disable and enable till the NIC starts
[17:08] <aboleth> could anyone help me with this?
[17:08] <macho_> i try it cant find them
[17:08] <UbuntuMe> kepi: so u just sticked ur cable into the laptop.. and it automagically links to the internet
[17:08] <prabha> iQxer0:how to use flash in ubuntu?
[17:08] <samborange> doesn't firefox have flash addons?
[17:08] <iQxer0> prabha : :)
[17:08] <samborange> use them
[17:09] <iQxer0> prabha: u want to play a flv file ? or have flash plugin for firefox ?
[17:09] <iQxer0> i've got twin desktops, not cloned.. but wen i open an application in Screen1, it goes to Screen 2
[17:09] <iQxer0> i couldnt find a solution anywhere..
[17:09] <prabha> iQxer0:no create a presentation in flash
[17:10] <aboleth> anyone familiar with the joystick problem?
[17:10] <sysdoc> iQxer0, try seperate X sessions
[17:10] <sysdoc> separate too
[17:10] <kepi> ubuntume, no, go edit settings of wired connection and in ipv4 settings there's a tab named method choose manual and enter ur ip, subnet, etc
[17:10] <MrElendig> troll: take a look at navit
[17:11] <iQxer0> sysdoc: i am having two monitors dude
[17:11] <UbuntuMe> kepi: how do i get to find out my ip, subnet etc.. thanks, i am quite a noob at networking
[17:11] <iQxer0> sysdoc: how to assign sessions to Screens?
[17:12] <sysdoc> iQxer0, google for it with the ati card. I use nvidia and is very simple in nvidia-setttings
[17:12] <kepi> ubuntume, about that i dont really know, mine were given by the isp
[17:12] <iQxer0> sysdoc: i've tried..
[17:13] <UbuntuMe> kepi: k, found out it was ifconfig...hope it works...
[17:13] <prabha> ubuntume:how to use c&c++in ubuntu
[17:13] <kepi> ubuntume, ok
[17:14] <iQxer0> prabha: u can use f4l > flash for linux
[17:14] <iQxer0> prabha: http://nchc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/f4l/f4l-0.2.1.tar.bz2
[17:14] <UbuntuMe> prabha: use gcc command to compile ...
[17:15] <iQxer0> prabha: gcc -o mario mario.c         > example .. hehe
[17:15] <UbuntuMe> prabha: a simple google search.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=689635 ...  pretty straight forward stuff... good luck..
[17:16] <UbuntuMe> kepi: thanks.. i am gg ofline.. changing cable to my laptop... :)
[17:16] <kepi> ubuntume, peace, later then
[17:16] <iQxer0> UbuntuMe, take care sir
[17:17] <prabha> iQxer0:how to install c&c++ in ubuntu?
[17:17] <kepi> is there linewire and bittorent clients for ubuntu 8.10?
[17:17] <kepi> *limewire
[17:17] <Elda> Limewire is a bad idea overall to use
[17:17] <unop> prabha, sudo aptitude install gcc g++
[17:18] <kepi> elda, y?
[17:18] <Elda> I personally like azureus/vuze
[17:18] <Elda> as far as torrents go, and limewire is in my reading and thus formulated the opinion a cause for too much trouble
[17:18] <kepi> azures takes much resources
[17:18] <mrwes> How do I start the hddtemp daemon at book time?
[17:18] <sysdoc> iQxer0, http://www.jumpingbean.co.za/blogs/mark/linux-ati-driver-tutorial-how-to
[17:18] <Elda> Not enough to cause a noticeable trouble on any relatively recent system :>
[17:18] <sysdoc> google!
[17:19] <unop> !boot > mrwes
[17:19] <sysdoc> lol
[17:19] <ubuntu>  how much ram do i need to run kubuntu 8.10 ?
[17:19] <kepi> elda, yeah maybe
[17:20] <pzitek> Hallo here
[17:20] <prabha> how to open build-essential via terminal
[17:21] <duxbarak> what's the best DVD ripping software in the repos or elsewhere?
[17:21] <sysdoc> ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[17:22] <prabha> iQxer0: how to open build-essential
[17:22] <pzitek> Please, is here someone whou could help me with aplication running in wine and using odbc and mysql? I can connect to my database via mysql administrator, but apllication can not connect. Thank you
[17:23] <kepi> is it possible to connect wirelessly to two or more devices at once?
[17:23] <iQxer0> prabha: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[17:23] <sysdoc> pzitek, google MySQL connector
[17:23] <pzitek> Please, whou could help me with odbc and mysql?
[17:23] <hanasaki> lookihng for some general concensous.. what do you all prefer for webmail to imap?  hord? roundcube? squirlemail? others?  don't want to start a war here just know what works well and setup is easy
[17:23] <pzitek> sysdoc - I am working on it for one week ...
[17:24] <sysdoc> pzitek, what ver of the connector are you using?
[17:25] <sysdoc> pzitek, http://www.mysql.com/products/connector/odbc/
[17:25] <pzitek> sysdoc - I am new to Linux, I will check the version
[17:25] <iQxer0> sysdoc: following the guide u gave : brb.. see u guys in a while..
[17:25] <sysdoc> iQxer0, that was just a google search, the answers are out there...:)
[17:26] <iQxer0> sysdoc: i've been trying lots of stuffs the whole day.. :)
[17:26] <iQxer0> sysdoc: isnt it just too much trouble when there's too many answers :P
[17:26] <iQxer0> sysdoc: see u doc.. bye 4 a while
[17:26] <pzitek> sysdoc - of course I read it. I read nearly everything ... :-(
[17:27] <ubuntu>  iam installing kubuntu 8.10 from dvd i just burned. and its stuck on " calculating files to be skip coping" what can i do now?
[17:27] <XB23> is ubuntu lighter then debian on system resources?
[17:27] <XB23> or is debian lighter than ubuntu
[17:27] <kepi> ubuntu, wait n c
[17:28] <ubuntu> kepi:  its stuck on 15 % from ten mins
[17:29] <kepi> ubuntu, if it was me i wud restart and start again, i dd that the last time i dd an install
[17:30] <ubuntu> kepi:  its the second time iam facing the same problem after a restart
[17:31] <kepi> ubuntu, bad luck then, maybe cd problem, highly unlikely thou
[17:31] <kepi> brb guys
[17:31] <duxbarak> ubuntu, sounds like you might have a bum dvd
[17:31] <pzitek> sysdoc - "thank you" for your help. You wrote nothing helpful ...
[17:31] <duxbarak> you might try using regular ubuntu cd, then load the kubuntu package, and it switches it over through downloads
[17:32] <ubuntu> duxbarak:  then load the kubuntu package, and it switches it over through downloads
[17:32] <ubuntu> >
[17:32] <ubuntu> ?
[17:32] <hanasaki> anyone know how in roundcube to set the imap server and hardcode it so users cannot enter their own hsotname?
[17:32] <emilinik> hello
[17:32] <emilinik> !list
[17:32] <duxbarak> sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[17:33] <phisher1> hanasaki: you could just edit the source
[17:33] <dilinu> eu to com problemas com minha webcam alguem pode me ajudar?
[17:33] <jrq> im new to linux can some1 tell me the differences between ubuntu and suse ?
[17:33] <kepi> am back
[17:33] <phisher1> they may be a more appropriate built-in method, I have no idea though
[17:34] <phisher1> jrq: ubuntu = debian based, suse = rpm based
[17:34] <evantandersen> if i boot my computer with no CPU in the socket, what will happend?
[17:34] <jrq> what does that mean phisher1 ?
[17:34] <phisher1> evantandersen: it shouldn't turn on
[17:34] <Jerky_> evan: nothing
[17:34] <duxbarak> ubuntu, jk, it would be 'sudu apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[17:34] <magnetron> evantandersen→ it won't boot
[17:34] <phisher1> jrq: the package management systems are completely different
[17:34] <jrq> oh ok
[17:34] <phisher1> ubuntu is a hellva lot more user friendly if you ask me
[17:34] <jrq> is one better than the other ?
[17:35] <phisher1> I have some sles servers and I hate them
[17:35] <evantandersen> thanks
[17:35] <jrq> oh ok @ user friendly
[17:35] <[MindVirus]> Can anyone recommend me good music authoring software?
[17:35] <phisher1> its usually a matter of personal preference
[17:35] <[MindVirus]> For GTK/GNOME?
[17:35] <Jerky_> jrq: thats an opinion based question
[17:35] <phisher1> with Suse, you can puchase Suse updates/support from Novell
[17:35] <Jerky_> jrq: i would say, install both and see which one you like better
[17:36] <phisher1> ubuntu spoils amatuers and veterans
[17:36] <phisher1> I don't miss the days of having to solve all my own dependencies..
[17:37] <ubuntu> how can i check a burn dvd ? (in my case its kubuntu dvd)?
[17:37] <[MindVirus]> Any suggestions?
[17:37] <kepi> phisher, i think that's time wastage
[17:37] <phisher1> you can't "waste" time in my opinion..
[17:38] <phisher1> anywho..
[17:38] <[MindVirus]> Can anyone recommend me good music authoring software for GTK/GNOME?
[17:39] <sysdoc> [MindVirus], Audacity
[17:39] <[MindVirus]> sysdoc, sorry, not sampling music.
[17:39] <[MindVirus]> I want to compose it (with a score and all).
[17:39] <[MindVirus]> Or tabs.
[17:39] <sysdoc> ahh
[17:39] <aar> Hi, I'm trying to create an alias that will send files and directories to the Trash directory. I've got: alias del='kfmclient move url trash:/' How can I substitute 'url' by a variable that will allow me to delete any file (e.g. del file)?
[17:40] <kepi> mindvrus, lives maybe
[17:40] <[MindVirus]> kepi, eh?
[17:40] <unop> aar, you can't do that with an alias. use a function instead.    function del() { kfmclient move "$1" trash:/ ; }
[17:41] <Metal> back
[17:41] <SliderMan> can someone help me reinstall gnome?
[17:41] <kepi> mindvirus, the software named 'Lives'
[17:41] <[MindVirus]> kepi, also, if you want to autocomplete a name, type the first few letters of the name and press tab.
[17:41] <aar> unop, thank you -- i'll try that
[17:41] <[MindVirus]> So for you it's "ke<tab>".
[17:41] <[MindVirus]> It helps people realize you're talking to them. :)
[17:41] <armence> Hello all, when I turn on my computer, right before the loading bar appears, I get a couple of error messages concerning my BIOS and PnP can anyone help me with that?
[17:41] <kepi> mindvirus, thanx
[17:42] <rakesh> hello
[17:42] <Besogon> Do anybody know good netbook for Ubuntu (netbook with Intel Atom N270 1.6 Ghz)?
[17:42] <[MindVirus]> So, could you please do that for me, kepi? I don't see the line unless it has my name (it highlights).
[17:42] <[MindVirus]> I'd really appreciate it.
[17:42] <PhotoJim> Besogon: I like my Acer Aspire One 8.9" a ton.  A couple of minor Linux wrinkles, but works well.
[17:42] <unop> Besogon,  the Samsung NC10
[17:42] <rakesh> can anyone help me regarding modem hangup
[17:42] <rakesh> in ubuntu
[17:42] <troll> Can anyone help get my ozone to work with ubuntu studio?
[17:43] <Besogon> thanks
[17:43] <[MindVirus]> kepi, I don't see a package called lives.
[17:43] <kepi> [MindVirus]: am not used to this
[17:43] <eseven73> [MindVirus], how can you expect people to hilight your nick when you got [brackets] going on? :P
[17:43] <hemanth> Building PyGTK using distutils is NOT SUPPORTED.
[17:44] <[MindVirus]> eseven73, that makes it easier.
[17:44] <kepi> [MindVirus]: i was told it's the best in linux, i've never used it thou
[17:44] <[MindVirus]> eseven73, just bracket, then first letter.
[17:44] <eseven73> meh you just wanna be first in list
[17:44] <eseven73> lol
[17:44] <[MindVirus]> eseven73, actually, this is my secondary nickname.
[17:44] <[MindVirus]> I only use MindVirus unless my other computer's on it.
[17:44] <[MindVirus]> :)
[17:45] <[MindVirus]> kepi, alright, thanks. I'll check it out.
[17:45] <[MindVirus]> Gonna try to find some repos.
[17:45] <troll> What i s mindvirus
[17:45] <[MindVirus]> kepi, oh, it's a video editing suite.
[17:45] <XB23> ubuntu804-desktop
[17:45] <XB23> is that latest?
[17:45] <[MindVirus]> XB23, 8.10 is, and 9.04 will be soon.
[17:45] <kepi> [MindVirus]: damn, i dont know then
[17:45] <XB23> so thats not supported?
[17:46] <fluitfries> do i need to add any flags in GParted so that a NTFS partition will be bootable?
[17:46] <[MindVirus]> I believe it is as it's an LTS (long-term support) release.
[17:46] <[MindVirus]> kepi, thanks anyways. :)
[17:46] <kepi> [MindVirus]: cool
[17:47] <troll> Does anyone use skype? I want to test my webcam
[17:47] <sahak> hello
[17:47] <n8tuser> fluitfries-> i believe you have to do an extra step of creating a file system (ntfs) for the partition to work
[17:47] <[MindVirus]> Can anyone recommend me good music authoring software for GTK/GNOME?
[17:48] <fluitfries> n8tuser: i have the partition created, just wondering about the "boot" flag really.
[17:48] <sahak> I am using Ubuntu 9.04, and the search option in gnome-app-install does not seem to work. Can anybody get gnome-app-install search working under Ubuntu 9.04?
[17:48] <[MindVirus]> sahak, #ubuntu+1
[17:48] <SliderMan> how do i reinstall gnome?
[17:48] <sysdoc> [MindVirus], 3 packages for you to eyeball Hydrogen, rosegarden, zynaddsubfx.
[17:48] <[MindVirus]> Hydrogen's a drum machine.
[17:48] <n8tuser> fluitfries-> what am trying to get at is, gparted only marks it as ntfs but you have to do an extra step of creating a file system on it
[17:48] <[MindVirus]> Rosegarden's great but it's Qt.
[17:48] <sahak> MindVirus: thanks
[17:48] <troll> Have you tried to install ubuntu studio? sahak
[17:48] <[MindVirus]> Zynaddsubfx is a sampler.
[17:49] <fluitfries> n8tuser: how would i do that?
[17:49] <rhineheart_m> please give me the solution for this: http://rafb.net/p/QDvLTO62.html
[17:49] <kepi> [MindVirus]: what's wrong with qt?
[17:49] <n8tuser> fluitfries-> i dont know, as i dont use ntfs much
[17:49] <harushimo> quick question
[17:49] <aar> unop, the function work great. Is there a way of saving the function it so it will be usable at the start of each session (kind of like saving the alias in .bashrc)?
[17:49] <SliderMan> !gnome
[17:49] <[MindVirus]> kepi, I'll give you 80 things.
[17:49] <[MindVirus]> Each and every package that is installed as a prerequisite.
[17:49] <harushimo> is there a reason why any video i play, the video comes out choppy
[17:49] <harushimo> its doing a frame by frame skip
[17:50] <[MindVirus]> I don't want to spend 100MB on some damn music editing software.
[17:50] <[MindVirus]> Plus it won't look good with my other programs.
[17:50] <rhsanborn> For a desktop environment, is there a significant performance boost when compiling your own kernel? I know there is some...
[17:50] <harushimo> this is doing with any program I use
[17:50] <SliderMan> why do i get broken packages when trying to use apt-get?!
[17:50] <sysdoc> [MindVirus], http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/tour/notation/
[17:50] <rhineheart_m> please give me the solution for this: http://rafb.net/p/QDvLTO62.html
[17:50] <kepi> [MindVirus]: okay:-/
[17:50] <unop> aar, you save it in your ~/.bashrc - just like with an alias
[17:50] <aar> unop, great thanks
[17:50] <[MindVirus]> sysdoc, yes, I know, but it's still Qt.
[17:51] <rhineheart_m> I'm trying to install canon printer in ubuntu
[17:51] <gahorist> Hi ppl, I have problem with another application with broken dependencies: Gaphor
[17:51] <gahorist> and of course need help :(
[17:51] <kepi> is it possible to upgrade just gnome?
[17:52] <[MindVirus]> sysdoc, do you know any equivalents for GTK/GNOME?
[17:52] <[MindVirus]> kepi, pardon?
[17:52] <Jeruvy> rhineheart_m: why are you using dpkg?  Can you not install via apt-get/synaptic your canon drivers?
[17:52] <[MindVirus]> You only want to upgrade a single package?
[17:52] <gahorist> Here it's commenter like "Fix released"
[17:52] <gahorist> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaphor/+bug/76959
[17:52] <kepi> [MindVirus]: yeah
[17:52] <gahorist> but, on 9.04 beta, it's still not working
[17:52] <fbc-mx> What does [success=1 default=ignore] do to pam authentication? http://pastebin.ca/1388117
[17:52] <kepi> [MindVirus]: i want only the new gnome 2.26 i think
[17:53] <rhineheart_m> Jeruvy, how would I do that?
[17:53] <armence> Hey, I got a problem, sometimes, when I Ctrl+Alt+F2 and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to return to the GUI, the mouse just disappears. Like, it is still there (can see the effects as it passes over files and menus) but it does not show...
[17:53] <[MindVirus]> kepi, you should always keep your system as up-to-date as possible.
[17:53] <gahorist> anyone plz?
[17:53] <[MindVirus]> So that would include GNOME.
[17:53] <shantzu> hello
[17:54] <[MindVirus]> But if GNOME is not updated in the repositories, kepi, then you will have the most recent version in the repositories but not the most recent version in general.
[17:54] <rhineheart_m> Jeruvy, how would I install .deb if already in the system?
[17:54] <shantzu> after i installed version ...24 of the linux kernel, my display now always starts dimmed, is there any way i could fix that?
[17:54] <[MindVirus]> Sadly, kepi, the repository version is 2.22.
[17:54] <fluitfries> n8tuser: if am able to copy data to this parition that is marked as "ntfs", would you consider it to be formatted as ntfs as well?
[17:54] <sysdoc> [MindVirus], not at this time no.
[17:54] <[MindVirus]> So you'll have to wait until the new version is added to the repos.
[17:55] <[MindVirus]> sysdoc, :(
[17:55] <slonik> hello
[17:55]  * armence calls for help with a small and pathetic voice...
[17:55] <shantzu> 2.26.7-14, not 24, sorry
[17:55] <Jeruvy> rhineheart_m: if you have to use deb's then you need to solve the dependancies by getting those packages and installing them.  apt-get or synaptic will take care of that, with dpkg you're running on manual.
[17:55] <kepi> [MindVirus]: okay, can i download it from their website and install/upgrade it on my 8.10?
[17:55] <sysdoc> [MindVirus], I know I suck,,,:)
[17:55] <slonik> what's better on c2d? 32- or 64-bit ubuntu?
[17:55] <[MindVirus]> sysdoc, no problem. :)
[17:55] <slonik> or it doesn't matter?
[17:55] <[MindVirus]> kepi, you probably shouldn't just download it.
[17:55] <[MindVirus]> Use a package, kepi.
[17:56] <rhineheart_m> Jeruvy, but I downloaded the .deb from canon for CUPS.. what dependencies I lack?
[17:56] <kepi> [MindVirus]: okay, i'll just wait for 9.04
[17:56] <[MindVirus]> :)
[17:56] <Jeruvy> rhineheart_m: read your pastebin, the packages are listed there.
[17:56] <slonik> oh, nevermind ;-)
[17:57] <halfprice5> exit
[17:57] <n8tuser> fluitfries-> i guess so, if you can copy a file and read one from it
[17:57]  * fluitfries nods.
[17:57] <rhineheart_m> Jeruvy, but I tried sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0 but returns with error
[17:57]  * armence whimpers and really hopes someone will help him find his mouse...
[17:59] <kepi> anyone ever used microemulator?
[18:01] <oran101> jkdb cbndn clsdc
[18:01] <Jeruvy> rhineheart_m: did you try to add the printer from system-> administration -> printing ?
[18:01] <kepi> brb
[18:02] <oran101> WINDOWS RULES
[18:02] <rhineheart_m> Jeruvy, I got it! thanks.. nope.. I'm using cups in webgui
[18:02] <rampageoberon> Hi, I'm having a problem with ifconfig. As a user without root privilages ifconfig returns that /proc/net/dev doesn't exist. How can this be fixed?
[18:02] <joetheodd_> hi oran101
[18:02] <oran101> hi joetheodd
[18:03] <kharloss> hi. i guess is an offtopic question but i`ll try : there is any colaborative script doing the following :  we are 2 person - a team -  who work together for a website , a php based one , but we work on the same project, same sources , and sometimes we don`t know what other do ... we want a script , maibe a GPL script doing this , something with tasks, files modified, etc .  any help  ?
[18:03] <mrwes> My conky via tcp_portmon is showing connections from Akamai technologies ? What the heck it that?
[18:03] <unknown26> Does anyone here know anything about troubleshooting Tor/Privoxy?
[18:04] <Krine11> Hi guys
[18:04] <Krine11> How come my ubuntu is acting really slow is there tools that i can use to fix this?
[18:05] <mike-9> Having a problem logging in (on ubuntu). I'm currently connected to my headless server because I got an error logging in with putty. I try to log in with my normal user and I get this: setuid: Resource Temporarily Unavailable. However, I can log in as root (which is why I'm logged in as root). Any ideas on what I need to do to fix this? Google didn't provide much help
[18:06] <joeymorin> Anyone out there have experience moving /boot to it's own partition?
[18:06] <Bridger987> Can anyone here help me troubleshoot Tor/Privoxy? Tor is working fine, but I'm getting a forwarding error every time I try to access a .onion address.
[18:06] <Krine11> how come my ubuntu is really slow?
[18:07] <Krine11> hello?
[18:08] <Krine11> is anyone there?
[18:08] <kepi> Krina11, yeah
[18:08] <thiebaude> i'am
[18:08] <clearscreen> just 1424 people
[18:08] <Krine11> can
[18:08] <Krine11> you please
[18:08] <Krine11> tell me why my computer is acting slow now?
[18:08] <Krine11> it is almost 2 weeks since i installed ubuntu
[18:08] <Krine11> but now its acting kind of wierd
[18:08] <Krine11> any ideas or tools to fix this?
[18:09] <kepi> Krine11, i dont know, was it fast before?
[18:09] <Meelu> lol why is there 1424 people here
[18:09] <alec> can anyone help me, i have ubuntu 8.10 on a asus eee pc 900, i cant connect to any type of WPA encrytped wireless network, i have tried WICD network manager to no avail. ive read that this is a regrression bug in 8.10, are there any fixes?
[18:09] <Krine11> ya
[18:09] <Elda> EEE pcs are evil :|
[18:10] <Elda> Have you tried ndiswrapper though?
[18:10] <kepi> Krine11, well it got tired
[18:10] <fluitfries> what is the best way to clone one hdd to another?
[18:10] <Krine11> thanit got tired
[18:10] <kepi> :-D
[18:10] <Krine11> how do i fix this?
[18:10] <alec> elda: no, i dont belive that its a driver issue as i have had to go through a bunch of garbage to get the wireless to work at all.
[18:10] <JaCk_DaNieL> sera a tutti
[18:10] <fluitfries> alec: might try #eeepc as well.  :)
[18:11] <kepi> Krine11, let it rest, really i dont know
[18:11] <Mark_Jones> Hello guys, Im currently building a new PC to replace my old one that died.I hope its ok to ask here not sure where else to go, I am building a ubuntu system of course, but my question is if someone can explain to me how dual channel memory works and what slots I should use on my new mobo here.
[18:11] <Krine11> omg..
[18:11] <Krine11> i need real answers lol
[18:12] <usser> Mark_Jones, alternating slots, ie first and third or second and fourth
[18:12] <Jeruvy> Mark_Jones: it simply means you should add the ram in identical pairs, otherwise you get no advantage
[18:12] <usser> Mark_Jones, if you fill all available slots it doesnt matter
[18:12] <usser> Mark_Jones, memory sticks have to be the same size, timings etc.
[18:13] <troll> New at this help
[18:13] <Mark_Jones> Ok cool. I have 2 1024MB 8500 ram so slots 1 & 3 then?
[18:13] <kepi> usser: timings?
[18:13] <Jeruvy> Mark_Jones: confirm with the document for your board :)
[18:14] <Mark_Jones> Yeah its not the clearest
[18:14] <Mark_Jones> I have 2 yellow and 2 black slots.
[18:14] <Krine11> Another question
[18:14] <Krine11> should i use antivirus firewall antispyware for ubuntu?
[18:14] <usser> kepi, http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/AMD/memory/131
[18:14] <armence> So, I do programming, and I was wondering what I need to do so I can run my programs without type ./
[18:15] <alec> has anyone had problems connecting to wpa encrypted networks in ubuntu 8.10
[18:15] <kepi> Krine11: firewall i agree, others no
[18:15] <Mamama> Good morning.
[18:15] <Jeruvy> Krine11: a firewall is good to have (and one is included already in ubuntu, see firestarter) but the others are optional.
[18:15] <rickest> armence: PATH=.:$PATH     # but you should google why this isn't recommended security-wise
[18:15] <Krine11> why should i have a firewall than?
[18:15] <usser> armence, you have to add . to your path
[18:15] <Mamama> I'm having a very strange issue, fdisk shows all of sda partitions (which are ntfs) but I can't mount them or run ntfsfix on them
[18:15] <Jeruvy> alec: only with crappy AP's ;)
[18:15] <usser> rickest, PATH=$PATH:.
[18:16] <Mamama> As in, if I say ntfsfix /dev/sda1 it says it doesn't exist
[18:16] <Mamama> And it doesn't, if I check /dev only sda is there
[18:16] <usser> rickest, putting current directory first in the path is not a good idea
[18:16] <armence> ricket: Thanks...
[18:16] <Mamama> However, fdisk shows the partitions
[18:16] <Mamama> (as sda1, sda2, etc)
[18:16] <Krine11> what is the best firewall to use?
[18:16] <Mamama> Any ideas or recommendations?
[18:17] <grkblood1> any1 know how to convert .mkv files to avchd?
[18:17] <kepi> Krine11: u already have a firewall just install firestarter or watchdog
[18:17] <fbc-mx> What does [success=1 default=ignore] do to pam authentication? http://pastebin.ca/1388117
[18:17] <troll> has anyone played w/ Ubuntu 9.04?
[18:17] <usser> troll, yes
[18:18] <Krine11> will installing a firewall slow my computer or nothing is really affected
[18:18] <troll> Are there a lot of changes  usser
[18:19] <kepi> Krine11: it wont but it might block some connections
[18:19] <grkblood1> any1 know how to convert .mkv files to .avchd files?
[18:19] <Mamama> I'm having a very strange issue, fdisk shows all of sda partitions (which are ntfs) but I can't mount them or run ntfsfix on them ntfsfix says /dev/sdaX doesn't exist but they show up in fdisk
[18:19] <usser> troll, there are some substantial changes for me. Like new intel graphics driver, which is absolutely awesome.
[18:19] <SliMM> how can I check which processes eat up all my memory (they don't show up in system monitor)
[18:19] <SliMM> ?
[18:20] <Krine11> but do i really need a firewall because i use frostwire and just surf the web and play some online games
[18:20] <Krine11> can this mean i should use a firewall
[18:20] <egn> hi, I'm trying to use the font 7x14 with gnome-terminal.  I can open 'emacs -font 7x14' and it uses the font, so it looks like it's installed correctly but for some reason my gnome-terminal profiles can't see it
[18:20] <Mean_Admin> all right, so I used "cp -ax / /somenetworked drive" (actually I had to mount ' / ' as nfs share but anyways)
[18:20] <Mean_Admin> do I have to create a swap on the new drive, and I probably have to repair the grub also right ?
[18:20] <usser> troll, apart from that. not much has changed as with any incremental release there are updates to most of the packages, gnome 2.26, python2.6/3.0 and so on
[18:20] <chris-rc1> hi
[18:20] <chris-rc1>  is it possible to install jaunty's libc6 besides the one provided in intrepid?
[18:20] <Sh3r1ff> SliMM: ps
[18:21] <tornbuntu> I'm using the LiveCD to try out Ubuntu before going with the full installation on an older PC.
[18:21] <oran101> WINDOWS RULES
[18:21] <Mean_Admin> oran101: of course it does
[18:21] <SliMM> oran101: no, it doesn't
[18:21] <usser> Krine11, with linux you already have a firewall installed, you generally dont need any extra packages, since unlike with windows most ports are closed by default
[18:21] <tornbuntu> My problem is that I am a bit confused as to how to mount ZIP drives.
[18:21] <troll> usser, should i wait for the full release to upgrade?
[18:21] <Krine11> ok
[18:21] <tornbuntu> I popped in a new ZIP disk, and nothing happens.
[18:22] <usser> chris-rc1, messing with libc is not a good idea
[18:22] <Krine11> but why is my computer still slow than?
[18:22] <tornbuntu> The ZIP Drive (IDE) is detected properly.
[18:22] <SliMM> Sh3r1ff: nope, it only shows bash and ps
[18:22] <oran101> I got ur attention , man I nvr thought it would work
[18:23] <Sh3r1ff> slimm: you have to give options to the command ;)
[18:23] <Sh3r1ff> SliMM: try ps -ef
[18:23] <troll> usser, I'm using a laptop with an intell chipset.
[18:24] <usser> troll, which video card model? lspci | grep VGA
[18:24] <Krine11> How come when i load my computer i recive that it cannot display the video mode and i wnat to tget rid of this since i use ubuntu as my main os now
[18:24] <Mamama> I'm having a very strange issue, fdisk shows all of sda partitions (which are ntfs) but I can't mount them or run ntfsfix on them ntfsfix says /dev/sdaX doesn't exist but they show up in fdisk
[18:24] <SliMM> Sh3r1ff: well, how can I find the one that eats up at least 1G of memory? it doesn't list memory in the table
[18:25] <tornbuntu> Lol, what is the root password for a LiveCD?
[18:25] <Sh3r1ff> SliMM: try ps -auxwww
[18:25] <mechtn> anyone have a good howto for installing rtorrent with 8.10 server?
[18:25] <kepi> tornbuntu: 'root' i guess
[18:26] <coolmadmax> i need to run *.bin file how to do it?
[18:26] <Mamama> I'm having a very strange issue, fdisk shows all of sda partitions (which are ntfs) but I can't mount them or run ntfsfix on them ntfsfix says /dev/sdaX doesn't exist but they show up in fdisk
[18:26] <troll> usser, dont know It's a HP pavillion dv2000
[18:26] <Jeruvy> Mamama: check this topic out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1886
[18:26] <tornbuntu> kepi, nope, it's not root :(
[18:26] <usser> troll, run lspci | grep VGA
[18:26] <Picassotamus> coolmadmax: ./*
[18:26] <usser> !root
[18:26] <kepi> tornbuntu: then it aint got a password
[18:26] <tornbuntu> I tried no password as well.
[18:27] <oran101> guys am using dell inspiron 6400 on ubuntu 8.10 but i cant turn on my wifi
[18:27] <tornbuntu> Basically, I can't run gparted or mount anything, since I'm not "root". :P
[18:27] <coolmadmax> picassotamus thanks
[18:27] <oran101> tornbuntu: r u using a live cd ?
[18:28] <tornbuntu> oran101, yes I am.
[18:28] <tornbuntu> Booting right off the CD and trying it out before I do a HD installation.
[18:28] <kepi> tornbuntu: that's impossible i always use livecd for gparted and it neva ask for root privilages
[18:28] <Mamama> I'm having a very strange issue, fdisk shows all of sda partitions (which are ntfs) but I can't mount them or run ntfsfix on them ntfsfix says /dev/sdaX doesn't exist but they show up in fdisk
[18:28] <tornbuntu> This is Xubuntu 8.10, and it's saying I need root privileges.
[18:29] <Jeruvy> Mamama: did you read the link I gave you?  You need to MOUNT the drives before you can use them...
[18:29] <tornbuntu> There we go!
[18:29] <tornbuntu> Simply using "sudo" works.
[18:29] <Mamama> Jeruvy before ntfsfix?
[18:29] <tornbuntu> And it asks for no password.
[18:29] <Mamama> I can't mount them
[18:29] <Mamama> it says they don't exist!
[18:29] <Jeruvy> Mamama: yes, read the link, lots of good info
[18:29] <SliMM> ok, this is strange, my pc uses 2.6 GB of RAM, yet the memory used by all the processes only adds up to about 500 MB
[18:30] <Mamama> Can you relink? sorry I missed it
[18:30] <Jeruvy> Mamama: check this topic out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1886
[18:30] <Mamama> I was on another screen on google googling
[18:30] <usser> SliMM, ubuntu caches most frequent disk accesses into memory to speed things up
[18:30] <Sh3r1ff> SliMM: where do you see that it uses 2.6 GB?
[18:30] <tornbuntu> Okay, here is my next problem, how do you get ZIP disks to work with Ubuntu (or Linux, for that matter?)
[18:30] <un|matrix> how do i debug the problem if ubuntu unexpectedly reboots?
[18:31] <SliMM> Sh3r1ff: system monitor, top, htop
[18:31] <oran101> tornbuntu: type "sudo su " then u can use all the other commands without using sudo
[18:31] <tornbuntu> My ZIP Drive is /dev/sda
[18:31] <unop> oran101,  sudo -i  instead of  sudo su
[18:31] <tornbuntu> There are no partitions on the zip disk.
[18:31] <Mamama> Jeruvy: Well, here's the issue, fdisk sees sda1, sda2, etc, but there's no /dev/sda1 or 2 or X
[18:31] <hoonteke> Using base Ubuntu (Intrepid +Gnome), how do I install the version of Amarok that uses kde4 libraries?  I don't know which package to install ...
[18:31] <SliMM> usser: well, hmm, how can I see what that cache is?
[18:31] <troll> usser, gm965/gl960
[18:32] <Mamama> I know how to mount partitions
[18:32] <Sh3r1ff> SliMM: memory is also used for cache
[18:32] <tornbuntu> gparted gives me "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda" (/dev/sda is the ZIP drive.)
[18:32] <catimbau> alguem usa o Big linux?
[18:32] <usser> troll, yep i got the same card, vast improvements for me. i can finally run windows games with wine at an acceptable speed
[18:32] <SliMM> Sh3r1ff: yes, but this is the first time it got so high
[18:32] <jdwarta1> where do i get wine?
[18:32] <Jeruvy> Mamama: pastebin your fstab file
[18:33] <usser> SliMM, run top, it'll tell you how much memory you're using
[18:33] <Mamama> One sec
[18:33] <SliMM> I mean, it usually goes as high as 1GB as long as I don't have a memory leak in my programs
[18:33] <troll> usser, will this let me run WOW in wine now without crashing?
[18:33] <kepi> jdwarta1: on liquor stores
[18:33] <jdwarta1> should i use      apt-get install wine         ?
[18:33] <Jeruvy> !wine
[18:33] <cmumanz> Hi, does anyone know how can I format an ext3 partition and set an inode size of 128?
[18:34] <Mamama> Jeruvy http://www.pastebin.ca/1388152
[18:34] <usser> troll, i can run warcraft 3 with decent speed now, so yea i assume it'll work, provided you dont crank up the settings all the way
[18:34] <oran101> !wl
[18:34] <Mamama> Jeruvy Although fstab isn't important when the partitions don't show up on /dev
[18:34] <jdwarta1> lol
[18:34] <kepi> jdwarta1: if u got ubuntu tweak u can install itfrom there or from add/remove
[18:34] <Jeruvy> Mamama: thanks I'll take a peek, just want to check for conflicts.
[18:34] <jdwarta1> wine..........the program
[18:34] <danfg> what is the equivalent of setxkbmap for the console?
[18:34] <jdwarta1> :-D
[18:35] <SliMM> usser: well, it tells me I'm using ~3184156k
[18:35] <troll> usser, I'm really new to Ubuntu...but I like it much better than suse
[18:35] <jdwarta1> u mean.......i can install with the command line in terminal
[18:35] <jdwarta1> ?
[18:35] <oran101> !windows
[18:35] <SliMM> usser: 33436k for buffers
[18:35] <SliMM> usser: it doesn't say anything about cache
[18:36] <oran101> !bill gates
[18:36] <Jeruvy> Mamama: http://www.pastebin.ca/1388154
[18:36] <usser> SliMM, use SHIFT+> to sort by different uses
[18:36] <kepi> jdwarta1: i mean use the add/remove program
[18:36] <jo> Hi there :-)
[18:36] <Phoboss> hey guys
[18:36] <un|matrix> my system reboots sometimes when i play a video... how do i debug the problem??
[18:36] <Mamama> Jeruvy, sdb is flashdrive
[18:36] <jdwarta1> ok.............wine is installing     i used the command prompt thingy in terminal
[18:36] <Mamama> Where I'm trying to fix sda
[18:36] <Mamama> And running ubuntu on that flash drive
[18:37] <kepi> oran101: what's with u and 'windows'? u tryna sneak out
[18:37] <oran101> un|matrix: maybe its overheating if its a laptop
[18:37] <un|matrix> oran101: not a laptop and it's definitely not overheating
[18:37] <jdwarta1> sudo apt-get install wine
[18:37] <ikonia> oran101: this will be your only warning - stop trying to troll about windows
[18:37] <Jeruvy> Mamama: ok so, then you need to run (forgot what you were running) on /mnt/sda1 or whatever is the appropriate partition.
[18:37] <usser> SliMM, see the %MEM column, use SHIFT+> SHIFT+< until list is sorted by %MEM
[18:37] <SliMM> usser: sorting doesn't help, if it's a process that's using up this much memory, it doesn
[18:37] <jo> I've just gotten Multisync working with my WM6 PDA. Cool stuff, works fine, but it would be cool if I could sync automagically sync when the device is connected. Anyone know of a program that could help me do that?
[18:37] <devasura> hi, does any one know of a way to route mic o/p to speaker?
[18:37] <SliMM> show up
[18:37] <Mamama> Jeruvy it says /dev/sda1 doesn't exist
[18:38] <Mamama> Jeruvy And indeed there is no entry for sda1 on /dev/, however fdisk shows
[18:38] <oran101> wow the OP are mad nw
[18:38] <Mamama> it
[18:38] <usser> SliMM, sort until first process in the list has the highest number in %MEM column
[18:38] <Jeruvy> Mamama: not /dev ... use the mount point .... /mnt/sda sorry.
[18:38] <troll> usser, I need a gps program that runs in linux.
[18:39] <Mamama> Jeruvy $MFT has invalid magic
[18:39] <jdwarta1> i love ubuntu
[18:39] <usser> SliMM, you can use htop, its interface is a little more friendly and the number are less confusing
[18:39] <[MindVirus]> oran101, think about this rationally. You can get kicked out and piss people off (overall make the world a worse place) or you can play by the rules, which are generous and lenient, and try to help people with their problems.
[18:39] <Mamama> That's why I want to run ntfsfix to fix it
[18:39] <SliMM> usser: yes, I did that, what next? :-) — it's 1% i.e. ~40M
[18:39] <dinendalelanesse>  /j ##linux
[18:39] <kepi> i asked can i connect with wireless to two or more devices at the same time
[18:39] <jdwarta1> its way better than XP
[18:39] <usser> troll, wouldnt know much about gps on linux sorry
[18:40] <jdwarta1> troll, try google earth
[18:40] <kepi> oran got his own emotional problems
[18:40] <[MindVirus]> kepi, could you explain your question a little more?
[18:40] <WAR-JC> I got cod4 working in ubuntu
[18:40] <[MindVirus]> kepi, don't fan the fire.
[18:40] <Jeruvy> Mamama: so ntfsfix /mnt/sda generates an error? Sorry I know nothing of ntfsfix, I'd seek windows-specific recovery tools.
[18:40] <WAR-JC> but it doesnt run in full screen mode
[18:40] <troll> usser, tought that i was pushing my luck...:-)
[18:40] <[MindVirus]> kepi, you want to connect to two different wireless networks?
[18:41] <WAR-JC> I can still see taskbar at the bottom
[18:41] <rhsanborn> There has been some concern in the past (as late as last year) that 64-bit flavor was still lacking in the package volume/support area. Am I going to have a hard time finding packages in 64-bit, or hsa that pretty much been taken care of now?
[18:41] <WAR-JC> how do I enable fullscreen?
[18:41] <PokerFacePenguin> usser: gpsdrive is one I believe
[18:41] <[MindVirus]> rhsanborn, it's at the point where basically all development is equivalent.
[18:41] <kepi> [MindVirus]: i want to use wireless to connect to internet and sync files with other pc?
[18:41] <Mamama> Jeruvy yep, $MFT has invalid magic too
[18:41] <SliMM> usser: well?
[18:41] <[MindVirus]> kepi, that is not a problem.
[18:41] <rhsanborn> MindVirus: Exactly what I needed. Thank you.
[18:41] <devasura> hi, does any one know of a way to loop-back mic o/p to speaker?
[18:41] <Mamama> Jeruvy thing is, I'm on a netbook so no cd/dvd drive
[18:41] <Sh3r1ff> kepi: invest in a good ap ;)
[18:41] <Mamama> Otherwise I would've run chkdsk on it maaaany years ago
[18:41] <[MindVirus]> rhsanborn, wait a second.
[18:42] <rhsanborn> waiting
[18:42] <usser> SliMM, run htop
[18:42] <usser> SliMM, see what it says in terms of memory usage
[18:42] <kepi> Sh3r1ff: xplain plz
[18:42] <scunizi> kepi: the wireless will only connect to one device at at time but you can certainly sync files with the other pc through the network
[18:42] <[MindVirus]> Just so you know, rhsanborn, there may be some arbitrary problems or slowdowns with plugins from what I remember. Even this, AFAIK, has been phased out. Other than that, you're set.
[18:42] <SliMM> usser: same
[18:42] <XB23> guys have a weird issue on my desktop ubuntu i have setup ssh
[18:42] <Sh3r1ff> kepi: you want to connect to the internet and share files with another pc right?
[18:42] <Jeruvy> Mamama: well I'm out of suggestions :(  acronis or driveimage xml to pull the data off, maybe run smarttools on it to see if the drive is fixable.
[18:42] <rhsanborn> MindVirus: Can you give (even a non-real) example?
[18:43] <XB23> but when a user logs in they auth ok and are kicked out a second after logging in
[18:43] <Brack101> how hard would it be to add another hard drive to my system and move /home to it?
[18:43] <kepi> Sh3r1ff: yes
[18:43] <troll> Can anyone get vmware to work in ubuntu 8.10
[18:43] <[MindVirus]> rhsanborn, there was at one point in time when the Flash plugin for 64-bit sucked hard..
[18:43] <[MindVirus]> *hard.
[18:43] <XB23> but the logs are fine it says Apr 10 19:41:50 r22093 sshd[8478]: Accepted password for root from *IP* port 3392 ssh2
[18:43] <Mamama> Jeruvy :(
[18:43] <[MindVirus]> rhsanborn, but it seems to run flawlessly now.
[18:43] <Sh3r1ff> kepi: buy a wireless router ;)
[18:43] <kandjar> I'm having speed issue over ssh; is there anything I could do to speed it up?
[18:43] <[MindVirus]> No...
[18:43] <oran101> what programs do i need to make deb package
[18:43] <[MindVirus]> No, don't listen to that.
[18:43] <[MindVirus]> kepi, here.
[18:44] <kepi> Sh3r1ff: :-(
[18:44] <rhsanborn> MindVirus: very good. I'll keep an eye out for it. Thank you.
[18:44] <PokerFacePenguin> MindVirus: flash still acts up on 64bit
[18:44] <cmumanz> So no ideas regarding the inode size?
[18:44] <kepi> [MindVirus]: yes?
[18:44] <usser> SliMM, i dont know, if it doesnt show up when you sort by memory usage, i really have no idea
[18:44] <[MindVirus]> How will you be transferring files between computers, kepi?
[18:44] <[MindVirus]> PokerFacePenguin, tell that to rhsanborn.
[18:44] <scunizi> Sh3r1ff: he must have a wireless router since he connects to the internet.. I get the impression that kepi thinks that he has to connect directly to the other computer to pass files.
[18:44] <unitedroad> Hi everyone
[18:44] <rhsanborn> Was it flash or java that they just released a native package for 64 bit on linux before MS or OSX?
[18:44] <Sh3r1ff> scunizi: could be he's leeching of his neighbours ;)
[18:44] <kepi> [MindVirus]: by browsing in the other computer shared folder
[18:44] <WAR-JC> how can I make cod4 full screen?
[18:45] <SliMM> usser: i have started epiphany and now it gets listed with 8 processes (different pids, the rest is identical)
[18:45] <Dykam> can someone tell why he doesn't like the mount point? -> http://monoport.com/40345
[18:45] <[MindVirus]> kepi, I mean, what protocol?
[18:45] <[MindVirus]> FTP? Samba?
[18:45] <PokerFacePenguin> rhsanborn: dunno bout that one...i just update when its time
[18:45] <scunizi> Sh3r1ff: yea.. but still do-able even then..
[18:45] <unitedroad> is there a way to reapply udev rules to a device (hard drive) once you have undone them, like unmounted the hard drive
[18:45] <kepi> [MindVirus]: i dont know i just use the default network browser
[18:46] <kepi> [MindVirus]: that comes with ubuntu
[18:46] <scunizi> WAR-JC: that is not an ubuntu support question.. google code4 ubuntu or look for a cod4 channel on irc
[18:46] <[MindVirus]> kepi, I don't know what you're saying. Does the other computer run Ubuntu?
[18:46] <oran101> [MindVirus]:  i think wat kepi is asking is how to set one computer as a repository to the other, the easiest way to do this is to use the wifi adhoc feature
[18:46] <kepi> [MindVirus]: no, it runs window
[18:46] <wat> yes oran101 you highlighted me
[18:46] <troll> usser, one last thing. should i wait for the full upgrade to upgrade?
[18:47] <[MindVirus]> oran101, he wants to share files without disconnection.
[18:47] <usser> troll, yes, definetely, its a little flaky right now, upgrades coming out every day, some break things
[18:47] <[MindVirus]> In Windows, how will you be sharing files?
[18:48] <kepi> [MindVirus]:  damn, forget it i'll just use external hdd then
[18:48] <troll> usser, thanks 4 all the help
[18:48] <usser> troll, no problem
[18:48] <bjohnson> hi all
[18:48] <[MindVirus]> kepi, I'd be able to help better if you were to give more accurate details.
[18:48] <oran101> then he can use the bluetooth adhoc
[18:48] <Sh3r1ff> kepi: how are you connected to the internet
[18:48] <kepi> [MindVirus]: it's making me crazy now
[18:48] <[MindVirus]> oran101, the problem: there may or may not be a bluetooth receiver/sender.
[18:49] <oran101> this way he wouldnt have to disconect
[18:49] <[MindVirus]> oran101, the best way I see is definitely FTP.
[18:49] <kepi> Sh3r1ff: now am using edge
[18:49] <[MindVirus]> Or Samba.
[18:49] <unitedroad> is there a way to reapply udev rules to a device (hard drive) once you have undone them, like unmounted the hard drive, without having to say, unplugging and replugging it back or removing and reinserting the driver
[18:49] <Dykam> can someone tell why he doesn't like the mount point? -> http://monoport.com/40345
[18:49] <kush> my audio stopped working in ubuntu 8.10 is there a way I can restart the service without restarting the computer?
[18:49] <oran101> wat: how may I be of ur service
[18:50] <Sh3r1ff> MindVirus: other pc is windows, so shared folder on windows is even easier ;)
[18:50] <[MindVirus]> kush, sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[18:50] <wat> hi oran101 you highlighted me again
[18:50] <kepi> [MindVirus]: i'll holla at oran 2mrw and we'll try to solve it out
[18:50] <Sh3r1ff> kepi: i mean with which hardware?
[18:50] <wat> i dont use ubuntu lol im just here to help people thats how easy ubuntu is to use :)
[18:50] <[MindVirus]> Sh3r1ff, which is Samba.
[18:50] <demmon> is there any way i can lock the programs so no one can use them
[18:50] <wat> really all i have to say is "apt-get"
[18:50] <kepi> Sh3r1ff: usb modem
[18:51] <[MindVirus]> demmon, what programs?
[18:51] <Sh3r1ff> MindVirus: yes, but you don't have to create a samba shared folder ;)
[18:51] <demmon> dunno all the internet programs [MindVirus]
[18:51] <[MindVirus]> demmon, so, really, you want to stop a user from using the Internet?
[18:52] <artie> hel/llee
[18:52] <demmon> yes [MindVirus]
[18:52] <scunizi> wat: hilight is a function of using your nick in the line and fully accepted in this LARGE channel so it makes it easier to follow the thread of a conversation.. without a nick present in a line you might as well be talking to yourself.
[18:52] <[MindVirus]> demmon, System->Administration->Users and Groups.
[18:52] <[MindVirus]> Select the user.
[18:52] <wat> scunizi i know im just making fun
[18:52] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:52] <[MindVirus]> Click Properties.
[18:52] <[MindVirus]> Go to User Privileges.
[18:53] <artie> hello
[18:53] <artie> hello
[18:53] <sebsebseb> artie: hello
[18:53] <oran101> [MindVirus]:  am lost, he wants to connect yet he doesnt want to disconect  , To be or not to be dat is the question !!!
[18:53] <demmon> found it [MindVirus]
[18:53] <artie> how are you
[18:53] <[MindVirus]> demmon, change all the permissions you like.
[18:53] <demmon> thanks
[18:53] <scunizi> wat: this isn't the place to troll
[18:53] <[MindVirus]> :)
[18:53] <wat> im not trolling :)
[18:53] <[MindVirus]> oran101, it's very simple.
[18:53] <[MindVirus]> He doesn't want to directly connect.
[18:53] <[MindVirus]> I mean, he does.
[18:54] <[MindVirus]> But it'll be like browsing the web.
[18:54] <MaT-dg1> I'd like to know if there are any (serious) problems with the EXT4 filesystem (ubuntu 9.04 alpha users?)
[18:54] <[MindVirus]> You can have more than one webpage open at once.
[18:54] <[MindVirus]> MaT-dg1, no.
[18:54] <sebsebseb> MaT-dg1: find out in #ubuntu+1
[18:54] <oran101> ohh
[18:54] <[MindVirus]> 9.04 is beta.
[18:54] <oran101> then wat abt ftp ?
[18:54] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[18:54] <[MindVirus]> oran101, that's what I had suggested.
[18:54] <wat> wat abt ftp lmao
[18:55] <wat> what does that mean!
[18:55] <troll> Why are u talking 'bout me! LOL
[18:55] <wat> !
[18:55] <Sh3r1ff> MindVirus, oran101: i think he has problems with the physical connection, no?
[18:55] <[MindVirus]> wat, is that a question or an exclamation?
[18:55] <wat> i dont know
[18:55] <[MindVirus]> Sh3r1ff, no.
[18:55] <Sh3r1ff> MindVirus: my bad ;)
[18:55] <oran101> maybe , because it seems almst too easy .... lol
[18:55] <baz> is it possible to double-click an executable in nautilus and have it run in a terminal that stays open?
[18:56] <[MindVirus]> Sh3r1ff, no problem!
[18:56] <Sh3r1ff> baz: yes
[18:56] <cmumanz> Can anyone please help me find information about manual partitioning and making filesystems? I need to format an ext3 partition with an inode size of 128
[18:56] <[MindVirus]> baz, yes, but you'll have to run some bash trickery.
[18:56] <demmon> [MindVirus]:  i dont know how to set the pass for the new user
[18:56] <sebsebseb> !partitining |  cmumanz
[18:56] <sebsebseb> !partitining
[18:56] <sebsebseb> !gparted
[18:56] <[MindVirus]> When you're in that Users and Groups dialog, click on the user, then click Properties, demmon.
[18:56] <baz> Sh3r1ff, [MindVirus], any hints on what i should look into?
[18:56] <briml> Can I stop reading input with anything else than CTRL+Z in this syntax:  copy(istream_iterator<Date>(cin), istream_iterator<Date>(),back_inserter(e));
[18:57] <cmumanz> already tried gparted
[18:57] <wat> !partitioning
[18:57] <[MindVirus]> demmon, set password by hand.
[18:57] <sebsebseb> !partitioning
[18:57] <wat> there you go!
[18:57] <Sh3r1ff> baz: in the terminal profiles settings, go to title and command > when commands exit
[18:57] <demmon> [MindVirus]: how is that
[18:57] <sebsebseb> cmumanz:  Ext4 round the corner in 9.04
[18:57] <Sh3r1ff> baz: select hold the terminal open
[18:58] <[MindVirus]> demmon, it's right there.
[18:58] <sebsebseb> cmumanz: so doing loads of stuff now with Ext3, is probably a bit pointless
[18:58] <_Brun0_> what's more correct: mount ntfs parttitions on /mnt or /media ?
[18:58] <[MindVirus]> Users and Groups->Properties->Set password by hand.
[18:58] <kepi> brb
[18:58] <naknomik> On the Jaunty beta page http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/beta/ there is a i.MX51 Babbage board mentioned, anyone has any idea where I could buy that?
[18:58] <lowlycoder> is there a release date for ubuntu 9.0?
[18:58] <sebsebseb> lowlycoder: 23rd April
[18:58] <baz> Sh3r1ff, would that then be the default for all executables, or just the one
[18:58] <Jeruvy> !jaunty > naknomik
[18:58] <mib_p0ul5tsv> hi. i need help on how i can edit a file in recovery mode, can anyone help please ??
[18:58] <Sh3r1ff> baz: it's a global setting
[18:59] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, there are different forms of editing. You want to edit a text file?
[18:59] <[MindVirus]> An image?
[18:59] <[MindVirus]> A video?
[18:59] <[MindVirus]> A document?
[18:59] <FloodBot2> [MindVirus]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:59] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus] : it is a txt file
[18:59] <[MindVirus]> Yeah, yeah.
[18:59] <Sh3r1ff> mib_p0ul5tsv: vi or vim?
[18:59] <sebsebseb> mib_p0ul5tsv: or use the live CD and you can use gedit
[18:59] <baz> _Brun0_, for ubuntu i'd say media
[18:59] <briml> reinstalling is your best bet.
[18:59] <mib_p0ul5tsv> Sh3r1ff: vi
[18:59] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, use the root console, and then use a console-based text editor, like nano or vi.
[19:00] <baz> Sh3r1ff, thanks! Wasnt exactly what i was looking for but i think i'm even better off for it
[19:00] <Sh3r1ff> mib_p0ul5tsv: my suggestion was to use vi or vim ;)
[19:00] <briml> don't forget to format the drive first
[19:00] <Sh3r1ff> baz: what do you mean then?
[19:00] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]: the problem is i edited the xorg.conf file and need to no the code
[19:00] <baz> Sh3r1ff, i was thinking just for that one exe
[19:01] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, so open up a root console from recovery mode and nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:01] <baz> Sh3r1ff, per prog setting, rather than global
[19:01] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]:  thanks going to try now
[19:01] <[MindVirus]> :)
[19:01] <baz> Sh3r1ff, but i think i like this even better
[19:01] <Sh3r1ff> baz: don't know if it is possible per executable
[19:02] <[MindVirus]> The terminal thing?
[19:02] <Sh3r1ff> MindVirus: yeah
[19:02] <theuser1> how to install .bin file program. (i have download google earth web)?
[19:02] <_Brun0_> baz, i'm using ubuntu 8.10 alternative install. it only have icewm.. i'm going to avoid gnome/kde stuff. so you're suggestion still holds?
[19:02] <[MindVirus]> Sh3r1ff, how did you do it for each program?!
[19:02] <theuser1> .bin?
[19:02] <theuser1> info bin
[19:02] <_Brun0_> baz, your*
[19:03] <kush> hey mindvirus, this didnt work sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[19:03] <Sh3r1ff> MindVirus: in the terminal profiles settings, go to title and command > when commands exit > select hold the terminal open
[19:03] <[MindVirus]> Ah.
[19:03] <baz> Sh3r1ff, is it possible to have some sort of "execute" as an option on a file's right-click menu?
[19:03] <kush> I can wait if you are over loaded with questions...
[19:03] <Sh3r1ff> baz: click on open? ;)
[19:03] <[MindVirus]> No problem.
[19:04] <[MindVirus]> kush, well, let's find out if there's a problem first.
[19:04] <baz> _Brun0_, at the end of the day it really makes no difference, but I'd say that 80%+ of ubuntu users would put it there so it would be more consistent - even given your setup
[19:04] <[MindVirus]> Can you try playing some music? There's no sound, ye?
[19:04] <[MindVirus]> *yes?
[19:04] <Jeruvy> theuser1: a bin file typically needs to be mounted.  VLC will mount a bin, but if it's program data stuff you should try and mount it normally.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22262
[19:04] <baz> Sh3r1ff, open is setup to view the file in text editor
[19:04] <mib_p0ul5tsv> i no this is alot to ask but can someone post the default xorg.conf so i no wa it looks likes please :) ??
[19:05] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, Xorg can run without xorg.conf.
[19:05] <[MindVirus]> You can remove all that you like.
[19:05] <Sh3r1ff> baz: open does the same as double click, and what happens can be configured in nautilus
[19:05] <kush> yes, and when I go to the audio place in system/prefrences the 'test' doesnt work, with the error: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512!
[19:05] <kush> etc...
[19:05] <[MindVirus]> Though I do recommend  you making a backup, mib_p0ul5tsv.
[19:05] <kush> failed to connect: connection refused
[19:05] <[MindVirus]> kush, OK, try this.
[19:05] <[MindVirus]> Open up a console.
[19:05] <baz> Sh3r1ff, i would like for double-clcik to open it in a text file (as it is), but would like the option to execute in the context menu - possible?
[19:05] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]:  the problem is , i edited and well it went bad ways,
[19:06] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, of course. That's the only thing that can possibly happen. :)
[19:06] <[MindVirus]> Remove all that you may suspect is bad.
[19:06] <[MindVirus]> But back up the file first.
[19:06] <[MindVirus]> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[19:06] <[MindVirus]> Then edit.
[19:06] <[MindVirus]> kush, then try typing "pulseaudio" and press enter.
[19:06] <[MindVirus]> Pastebin the output please.
[19:07] <Sh3r1ff> baz: i think in nautilus it is not
[19:07] <[MindVirus]> Also tell me if it closes.
[19:07] <kanzie> How can I set up DNS2GO on my LTS-server?
[19:07] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]:  i cant login due to me editing the main file but i look at it now  and well, it looks fine :S the layout is the same as before
[19:07] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, you shouldn't need to login from the root prompt.
[19:07] <cs02rm0> anyone know why i can't type in gdm on initial load? if i switch to a text console, restart gdm then i can usually type fine (appears to be if the init scripts have finished)?
[19:07] <kush> W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[19:08] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]:  im on, PC not my laptop were ubuntu is on
[19:08] <kush> E: pid.c: Deamon already running.
[19:08] <vbourdonnec> coucou
[19:08] <kush> E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[19:08] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, I don't understand the problem.
[19:08] <kush> thats it
[19:08] <[MindVirus]> kush, next time please use a pastebin.
[19:08] <[MindVirus]> Check /topic.
[19:08] <kepi> i got to go, later dudes
[19:08] <kush> shit, sorryl.
[19:08] <[MindVirus]> No biggie.
[19:08] <sir_ade> hi
[19:08] <krebsen> hey, im starting a new x server at :1 but there is no sound, do I need yet another parameter for X?
[19:09] <Sh3r1ff> MindVirus: i think he means he screwed his xorg.conf
[19:09] <sebsebseb> sir_ade: hi
[19:09] <Flare183> How can I make the XOrg System Process quit using so much CPU?
[19:09] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]:  i edited the xorg.conf file and its messed up my Display, meanig everying is like, not showing
[19:09] <eseven73> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[19:09] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, right, so after you've backed it up, rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:09] <eseven73> I cant even ping it
[19:09] <[MindVirus]> eseven73, nope, it's up.
[19:09] <eseven73> hmmm
[19:10] <eseven73> ok its back up
[19:10] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]:  heres the thing, i dont have one, thats why i ask if someone nice enought to paste there
[19:10] <[MindVirus]> Flare183, try shutting off Compiz.
[19:10] <[MindVirus]> Ahh, you don't have one.
[19:10] <Davide> !sound
[19:10] <Flare183> [MindVirus]: That's what I thought was doing it.
[19:10] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]:  no
[19:10] <xnmrph> Hi. With vsftpd, is it possible to specify a particular directory for all users uploading data to? e.g. Rather than uploads going to /home/usera/ftp and /home/userb/ftp, can you specify it so they just upload to (e.g.) /media/raid ?
[19:10] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, here's the thing though -- X should run without an xorg.conf.
[19:11] <[MindVirus]> In fact that's when it uses its safest settings.
[19:11] <[MindVirus]> So there's least probability of error.
[19:11] <mib_p0ul5tsv> [MindVirus]: seems not in this case, it has, well messed up, could this be due to the ubuntu 9.04 beta ?
[19:11] <Sh3r1ff> mib_p0ul5tsv: or boot to the live cd and take a default xorg.conf from there
[19:12] <kamal> hi
[19:12] <[MindVirus]> !jaunty > mib_p0ul5tsv
[19:12] <kanzie> can I run dns2go on ubuntu
[19:12] <kamal> ubottu
[19:12] <[MindVirus]> mib_p0ul5tsv, problems in 9.04 should be asked in #ubuntu+1.
[19:12] <kush> I think I have a ubuntu virus or something
[19:12] <kush> it seems like everything is starting to fail
[19:12] <kush> now firefox is messing up
[19:12] <kush> :x
[19:13] <mib_p0ul5tsv> ill ask there thanks @)
[19:13] <mib_p0ul5tsv> :)*
[19:14] <baz> whats the command to open the default terminal in U8.10
[19:14] <jo> baz: gnome-terminal
[19:14] <Sh3r1ff> baz: open a terminal in a terminal ???
[19:14] <baz> jo, thanks
[19:14] <jo> Actually, more accurately:  x-terminal-emulator
[19:14] <jo> actually
[19:14] <baz> Sh3r1ff, hehe, kind of, more with the nautlius open-iwth
[19:15] <jo> What should I use in terms of disk backup (not file backup) for Ubuntu?
[19:15] <mechtn> hey is there a way to see the kb/sec being xfered on ubuntu sever?
[19:16] <jo> mechtn: console tool or what?
[19:16] <xnmrph> Hi. With vsftpd, is it possible to specify a particular directory for all users uploading data to? e.g. Rather than uploads going to /home/usera/ftp and /home/userb/ftp, can you specify it so they just upload to (e.g.) /media/raid (but _NOT_ /media/raid/usera/ftp or /media/raid/userb/ftp) ? OR do I need to use a different FTP server?
[19:16] <mechtn> console tool yes
[19:16] <jo> mechtn: If you want output on a web page, try rrdtool/mrtg
[19:16] <magcius> Is there a reason why git package refers to gnuit?
[19:16] <Sh3r1ff> baz: i think that changes both ways how you can open afile, but you can try though
[19:16] <mechtn> naw just need something quick and dirty at the console
[19:16] <mechtn> so i can see my speedtest info
[19:16] <Sh3r1ff> baz: trial and error is the best way to learn ;)
[19:17] <jo> mechtn: tcpdump
[19:17] <kush> =/
[19:17] <byx> 8.04能用NV6200显卡吗？
[19:17] <jo> mechtn: also, bmon, ethstatus
[19:17] <jo> baz: Unfortunately, nobody here speaks Chinese.
[19:17] <kush> everything just glitched out on ubuntu, and I had to restart
[19:18]  * kush crys
[19:20] <kush> [MindVirus]: is there antivirus for ubuntu?
[19:20] <xnmrph> clam
[19:20] <kandjar> i don't understand; i have a good internet bandwidth at home and at work; but ssh between work and home seems to be stalling regularly... (for something like 20sec each time) does anyone know why? what could be the reason for it?
[19:21] <showers> Is firestarter running? Is there a way i can be sure, in my own furry little mind that it is running when the icon is not in the task panel?
[19:21] <[MindVirus]> I have to get a phone call.
[19:21] <baz> is there a way to launch a command in terminal so that it opens another terminal and runs - for example gnome-terminal -execute start.sh
[19:21] <kepi> kush: clam av
[19:22] <kush> thanks
[19:22] <adac> CAn someone help me with setting up my openvpn server? I was following this german tutorial http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/OpenVPN but now when I try to connect from remote i get this error on client side:  read UDPv4 [ECONNREFUSED]: Connection refused (
[19:22] <sir_ade> avg for linux?
[19:22] <showers> See, I can know it's running when I log on as admin, but other wise how to tell?
[19:23] <jo> sir_ade: There's ClamAV, but it's quite pointless since there are no Linux viruses running around.
[19:23] <jo> I'm secretly lvh, but I'm too lazy to ghost myself.
[19:23] <yapp_> hi at all I want to disable the autologin in the shell of ubuntu how do i do that?
[19:23] <kepi> jo: for ur windows friends
[19:23] <Sh3r1ff> baz: why would you want it to open in a different terminal?
[19:23] <perlmonkey> Problem: No Sound.  Distro Ver: Ubuntu 8.04.  Symptom: Some days sound, other days not. Suggestions: ?
[19:23] <xnmrph> If there are no Linux viruses, why did someone create clamav ?
[19:24] <yapp_> I have uninstalled x and now it auto logon bash and i want no auto logn.
[19:24] <kepi> perlmonkey: spit personality
[19:24] <mrsteveman1> there are linux viruses, they aren't running around rampant though
[19:24] <Sh3r1ff> xnmrph: clamav can also scan windows virus, it is mainly used on mailservers
[19:24] <dooner> kandjar, could look at using mtr to look for packet loss
[19:24]  * perlmonkey spits 
[19:24] <kepi> xnmrph: there r few
[19:24] <kush> yeah well I have no idea how I would have gotten anything...I do not open anything I do not know
[19:25] <Sh3r1ff> baz: why would you want it to open in a different terminal?
[19:25] <xnmrph> kepi, yes, I know. Of course, there are no rootkits, either. Hence rkhunter doesn't exist
[19:25] <kush> unless people have been having problems like this, it must be a virus.
[19:25] <kush> but it is possible that it is just some kind of hardware/software clash
[19:25] <kush> idk
[19:25] <perlmonkey> paul@kayak:~$ pulseaudio restart
[19:25] <perlmonkey> ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL front:1
[19:26] <perlmonkey> E: authkey.c: Failed to open cookie file '/home/paul/.esd_auth': Permission denied
[19:26] <xnmrph> Hi. With vsftpd, is it possible to specify a particular directory for all users uploading data to? e.g. Rather than uploads going to /home/usera/ftp and /home/userb/ftp, can you specify it so they just upload to (e.g.) /media/raid (but _NOT_ /media/raid/usera/ftp or /media/raid/userb/ftp) ? Or do I need to use a different FTP server?
[19:26] <Sh3r1ff> perlmonkey: sudo ;)
[19:26] <kush> no you see, I restarted the computer, and it works fine.
[19:26] <baz> Sh3r1ff, I am trying to mimic the behaviour of the nautlius dialog asking you to "run a file in terminal"
[19:26] <dooner> kush,  define glitched out. could be anything really.
[19:26] <perlmonkey> ﻿Sh3r1ff: that is with sudo :P
[19:26] <yapp_> I have removed xorg and now Ubuntu is loging in @ bash automatic how do I stop this?
[19:26] <cyrax> Hello all. I am using an HP dv6000 laptop with an external mouse and keyboard. The middle click stopped working suddenly. Any suggestions on how I can fix this?
[19:26] <yapp_> press left and right key
[19:26] <dooner> perlmonkey, what do the permissions on .esd_auth look like?
[19:27] <fbc-mx> Could someone tell me the name of the device manager like app that was dropped after 6.04? It would show you all your device in a tree structure with the name of the drivers that where driving them and everything.
[19:27] <Sh3r1ff> perlmonkey: the command you that was not "<perlmonkey> paul@kayak:~$ pulseaudio restart" ;)
[19:27] <kush> glitched out being, first I lost my audio, I couldnt get anything to play or even when I tested it from the system/prefrences it would give an error...then firefox wouldnt run it was already running or something but there were no windows up, then everything including irssi and my console windows just closed all the sudden
[19:27] <perlmonkey> dooner: -rw-------
[19:27] <cyrax> yapp_: I have a 3 button mouse (scroll wheel is the third button). I've always used the third button (ex: to open new tabs in Firefox) I suddenly can't do that anymore.
[19:27] <regeya> moo
[19:27] <Sh3r1ff> perlmonkey: the commad you type, wow english is hard today ;)
[19:27] <xnmrph> kush, was the disk thrashing at the time ?
[19:28] <perlmonkey> ﻿Sh3r1ff﻿: i did that first and it hung, so I CTRL+C'd and then ran sudo on it
[19:28] <yapp_> cyrax:try to emulate this by pressing left and right at the some time
[19:28] <perlmonkey> :-)
[19:28] <kush> no
[19:28] <cyrax> also when I right click on the links in firefox occasionally it opens a new window and NOT the menu. This is quite rare but lately the whole system has been quite sluggish.
[19:28] <Sh3r1ff> perlmonkey: check ps to see if the proces is still running and kill it if it is
[19:28] <kush> no there was no disk thrashing
[19:29] <perlmonkey> ok will check
[19:29] <kush> from what I could hear, nothing obvious
[19:29] <kepi> cyrax: that happens to me too sometimes
[19:29] <cyrax> yapp_: I don't understand the reasoning behind this. I am currently using that work around but it is not good enough.
[19:29] <xnmrph> kush, ok. I've had some problems with the system being unresponsive when running Firefox and Rhythmbox. I shut down pulseaudio and it all went nice again....seemed to be some memory leak or similar because all my RAM was used and the swap file was full
[19:30] <kush> Yeah bro, it very could have been some memory error for sure
[19:30] <perlmonkey> doesnt seem to be running
[19:30] <frojnd> Hello there. I need to install bittorent. The command line version. Is there any repository that include this kinda package?
[19:30] <kush> I was running firefox (youtube) and the movie player or whatever playing music
[19:30] <cyrax> Hate to say this in this forum but why has Ubuntu suddenly become sluggish? Firefox cannot keep up with my typing speed. Is this a known problem for this release?
[19:30] <frojnd> !bittorent
[19:30] <xnmrph> sis ;-)
[19:30] <xnmrph> Hi. With vsftpd, is it possible to specify a particular directory for all users uploading data to? e.g. Rather than uploads going to /home/usera/ftp and /home/userb/ftp, can you specify it so they just upload to (e.g.) /media/raid (but _NOT_ /media/raid/usera/ftp or /media/raid/userb/ftp) ? Or do I need to use a different FTP server?
[19:30] <kush> but the music was on my 'windows' drive :p
[19:31] <kush> well cool, thanks for the insight
[19:31] <kandjar> dooner: mtr?
[19:31] <kush> how can I shut down pulseaudio, I tried to 'restart' it but that dididnt work.
[19:32] <kush> I also lost the command to restart when I had to restart the computer...
[19:32] <xnmrph> Just go into your system monitor, right click it and kill it
[19:32] <Sh3r1ff> kush: that's because there is a "start" in restart ;)
[19:32] <dooner> kandjr (mytraceroute). does a constant traceroute to show PL/Latency etc..
[19:32] <kush> ;p Sh3r1ff
[19:32] <kepi> kush: just try to change it in volume control
[19:32] <kush> I like the command line but okay :)
[19:32] <baz> i screwed up i think... i chmod'ed my entire /home/baz directory so that only the owner has perms and no-one else... now some progs arent running, and some settings aren't being saved (like in this xchat for example) - any tips on what perms i should renable... perhaps just 'execute' for 'others'?
[19:33] <perlmonkey> hate this computer
[19:33] <xnmrph> well, do ps -e or similar. find pulseaudio pid then kill -9 pid
[19:33] <kush> lmao ohhh what a dummy :p
[19:33] <kandjar> dooner: the cmd line is: mtr <host>?
[19:34] <kush> thankyou guys :)
[19:34] <xnmrph> Anyone run an FTP server here ?
[19:35] <kandjar> dooner: can I do the trace root from the established connection? (both pc are behind firewalls...)
[19:35] <kush> its also with the 64 bit ubuntu, I dont know if that has something to do with it...
[19:36] <xnmrph> Better off with the 32 bit AFAIK. It has more "testing"
[19:36] <dooner> kandjar, well if the firewalls eat icmp, i don't think it will help.
[19:36] <kandjar> yeah it does eat them.
[19:36] <xnmrph> Besides you probably get a nano % performance increase with the 64 bit version ;-)
[19:36] <phh451> I need help on sound troubleshooting. A couple of days (or weeks ago) sounds stopped to work almost completely. Was there some updates to Pulseaudio or something related  recently?
[19:37] <xnmrph> I've noticed pulseaudio is flakier of late (in the last few weeks)
[19:37] <frostburn> phh45, my sound dies regularly every few days, a restart of pulseaudio doesn't work, a reboot always does
[19:37] <frostburn> nothing in dmesg either
[19:37] <kandjar> dooner: mmm it seems that one of them doesnt
[19:37] <kush> so who would fix something like that?
[19:37] <kush> the community! :p
[19:37] <xnmrph> whichever chimp broke it ;-)
[19:37] <kush> ;p
[19:38] <kush> I am going to school for programming, but i'm not even close to this far :p
[19:38] <XB23> how do i ssh using command line in bash
[19:38] <XB23> ssh hostname -l username?
[19:38] <kandjar> dooner: 11 redirection; 3 of them have less than 4% packet loss so far
[19:39] <twolane> XB23: ssh user@hostname or ssh -l username ip-address
[19:39] <nocleader> can't ftp localhost using vsftpd on 8.1 desktop; I've restarted it... no change ??? anybody ??
[19:39] <baz> anyone using xchat? if so can u tell me what the perms are on your ~/.xchat2 folder?
[19:39] <dooner> kandjar, hmm doesn't seem that bad.
[19:40] <kandjar> dooner: so yeah it doesnt seem to have a lot of packet loss... but the connection still stall every minutes for about 20sec....
[19:40] <dooner> baz: drwx------ 4 doon doon 4096 2009-04-10 14:09 .xchat2/
[19:40] <twolane> baz: 700
[19:40] <takamarou> Hi, I'm trying to set up touchlib for my computer.  The tutorial on it says to dl all the files, then do cmake . and then make    but the tutorial doesn't specify what my make file should be..  can anyone help me with this?
[19:40] <Mike_lifeguard> baz: I am... but I don't know how to see the permissions on that folder :)
[19:40] <baz> thanks guys
[19:40] <Mike_lifeguard> baz: so I will google that and let you know...
[19:40] <baz> hehe
[19:40] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, nm
[19:40] <baz> thanks anyways
[19:41] <kandjar> avg latency= ~40
[19:41] <Sh3r1ff> baz: drwx------ (700)
[19:41] <baz> Mike_lifeguard, u can do ls -dl ~/Apps/
[19:41] <baz> Mike_lifeguard, u can do ls -dl ~/.xchat2
[19:42] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, thanks
[19:42]  * Mike_lifeguard tries
[19:42] <vexic> Hi, I had a question about using "talk" .  I am having some trouble getting this to work, is there something else that would work similarly?
[19:43] <_Brun0_> How is my synaptic touchpad working if my /etc/X11/sorg.conf don't have anything about it?
[19:43] <phh451> frostburn: pulseaudio is not mentioned in dmesg. Could my recent sound problems even be related to RAM addition? Or could it have something to do with kernel update?
[19:43] <dooner> kandjar, so it just hangs for 20sec.  Could something in the firewall getting wonky?
[19:43] <mechtn> whats the standard ftp server for ubuntu server?
[19:43] <mechtn> vsftpd ?
[19:43] <kush> my video drivers are going crazy now
[19:44] <kush> lol
[19:44] <kush> it wants me to update, then it froze
[19:44] <usser> _Brun0_, magic, xorg.conf is not used for configuration anymore
[19:44] <osotogari> Does anyone know where ubuntu store the config for sharing folders through nautilus?
[19:44] <magnetron> osotogari→ what do you want to do?
[19:44] <kandjar> dooner: I dunno; i m wondering; it definitively doesnt seems right...
[19:46] <dooner> kandjar, I've seen stuff like that, we either a fw gets wonky, or packets start getting lost. Or the isp in the middle starts Screwing with long running session
[19:47] <deany> mechtn, there is no standard ftp server as far as im aware.. i use proftpd myself.
[19:47] <osotogari> @magnetron - Nothing special, I just wanted to see what was stored.
[19:48] <dooner> mechtn, I use proftpd  aswell (then again I maintain the tds modules for it :) )
[19:48] <kandjar> dooner: it happened very regurlarly; even during the first minutes of the ssh connection... so I doubt it has something to do with long running session...
[19:48] <kandjar> i whish I had a way to find where the data stalls
[19:48] <Mike_lifeguard> baz: I don't see a number like 700 when I do that (though it does show me drwx------... is there something I need to change to see the numerical value?
[19:48] <dmglouis> Hello, I have a problem with my wireless card on my laptop. It's an Atheros AR928X and it will not stay connected to my home network
[19:49] <dooner> kandjar, tcdump on both ends ? and then compare Timestamps on the packets,  (but that sounds like a major pain in the ass..)
[19:50] <Arkku^> ok now i have to resort to you guys. Im totally new to ubuntu and.. how the hell can i get a good load of video codecs? :P
[19:50] <kandjar> what will that tells me?
[19:50] <Mike_lifeguard> Arkku^: you mean non-free ones?
[19:50] <Arkku^> im having a problem watching this movie and.. thats about it >>
[19:50] <twolane> Mike_lifeguard: try stat <directory> or stat <file>
[19:50] <kandjar> dooner: if the timestamp dont match... it will only tells me something stalls the data in between; but I still wont knwo where would I?
[19:50] <_Brun0_> usser, where can I configure devices now if xorg is not used anymore?
[19:51] <frostburn> phh451, unsure
[19:51] <Arkku^> Mike_lifeguard:  im not quite sure. From the looks of it, the vid is just plain avi
[19:51] <Mike_lifeguard> Arkku^: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - fairly straightforward (ie, I did it)
[19:51] <JaneDoe> how would I go about creating a script so that when a user ssh'd in, it would email me, including the IP of the client?
[19:51] <Mike_lifeguard> Arkku^: dunno if avi should be included or not... but get that package & try again
[19:52] <g4lt-lappy> JaneDoe, why not just set a notifier on /var/log/auth.log?
[19:52] <JaneDoe> g4lt-lappy: is there anything else that adds to auth.log?
[19:53] <g4lt-lappy> JaneDoe, console logins as well
[19:53] <JaneDoe> http logins?
[19:53] <troll> is there a way to make web sites think that u are using a win or mac computer?
[19:53] <Mike_lifeguard> twolane: thank you
[19:53] <Mike_lifeguard> troll: Yes, if you use Firefox there is an extension for that.
[19:53] <JaneDoe> troll: something like agent emulator
[19:53] <Mike_lifeguard> troll: "User agent switcher" I think it's called
[19:53] <g4lt-lappy> JaneDoe, that's handled by apache logging, not pam
[19:54] <dooner> kandjar, nope, won't be able to tell where,  but might be able to see which side is sending the packets and or getting the timeouts or if there are retranmissions. etc..
[19:54] <troll> were do i find this
[19:54] <g4lt-lappy> basically anytime pam gets triggered and only when pam gets triggered, auth.log logs it
[19:54] <erUSUL> troll: is a firefox extension
[19:54] <dooner> avi isn't a codec, it is a container format
[19:54] <JaneDoe> g4lt-lappy: k, so how do I set a notifier on it? and does ubuntu have postfix or some such already in?
[19:55] <Mike_lifeguard> troll: open Firefox, then to Tools > Add-ons then choose the 'get add-ons' tab and search for it and install it
[19:55] <kandjar> dooner: mmmm sounds really painful :) indeed :)
[19:55] <troll> got it thx
[19:56] <g4lt-lappy> JaneDoe, it has a MTA.  exim I think, and you setting the notifier is prollly as simple as configuring watch or another program to notify on additions to the file
[19:56] <dooner> kandjar, yep. I've been tracking down packet loss in  a very big network for the last 2 days.. It is  pain.
[19:56] <JaneDoe> g4lt-lappy: k, googling
[19:56] <kandjar> dooner: arf :)
[19:56] <kandjar> dooner: i ll give it a try
[19:57] <osotogari> Does anyone know where ubuntu store the config for sharing folders through nautilus?
[19:57] <rgl> I'm trying qtcreator, but for some reason, the help is not displayed at all.  known how to make it work?
[19:57] <dooner> Arkku^, AVI isn't a codec it is a container format.could be one of a multiple of different codecs in there..
[19:58] <rgl> oh nv.  installing the qt4-doc package did the trick.
[19:59] <grkblood13> any1 know how to convert mkv to avchd
[19:59] <XB23> which is latest and most secure
[19:59] <XB23> Ubuntu Server 8.10  or Ubuntu Server 8.04
[19:59] <kepi> latest 8.10
[20:00] <XB23> 32 or 64
[20:00] <XB23> bit
[20:00] <XB23> which is best i can choose either apparently from my host
[20:00] <phh451> phh45
[20:00] <kepi> dont know
[20:01] <_Brun0_> usser-away, i found the solution for my touchpad disable/enable: http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/enable-shmconfig-for-synaptics-touchpad-on-ubuntu-intrepid-ibex-810
[20:01] <dooner> grkblood1, mkv is container format, avchd is a codec.
[20:01] <TekNET> hi
[20:01] <grkblood13> dooner, ok maybe i should explain what im trying to do
[20:01] <ttd4> can an existing /dev/sda harddrive with reiserfs paritions be converted to raid1 by adding another drive, changing the /dev/sda paritions to fd, copying over this parition scheme to the 2nd drive, mkreiserfs on the 2nd drive, mknod, and then mdadm to create the array?
[20:01] <grkblood13> im trying to convert this mkv file so i can burn it and watch it on my ps3
[20:01] <ttd4> or does the existing hdd have to be mkreiserfs'd as well
[20:02] <WAR-JC> im running cod4 with wine and getting 30fps and less using a 9800GT
[20:02] <WAR-JC> anything I can do to improve performance?
[20:02] <grkblood13> so what do i need to do to get their?
[20:02] <dooner> grkblood1, google for mkv ps3 and I think you should find what you need
[20:02] <phh451> I noticed there have been bug reporting about bugging sound: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/356977
[20:02] <ZeZu> WAR-JC, would you get any better in windows ?
[20:03] <grkblood13> yea, i found mkv2vob but that prog isnt supported on linux
[20:03] <WAR-JC> 125fps in windows
[20:03] <grkblood13> as far as a ican tell
[20:03] <WAR-JC> geforce 9800GT
[20:03] <dooner> you can pull the audio and video out of the mkv, and then rebuild them into a different container.(like say avi).
[20:03] <ZeZu> WAR-JC, there are a few other solutions more geared towards games, but some of them are commercial
[20:03] <ZeZu> WAR-JC, one question however, is what driver are you using?  the restricted nvidia driver ?
[20:03] <WAR-JC> not sure im new to linux
[20:04] <WAR-JC> I updated to 180.44 I think
[20:04] <ZeZu> ok
[20:04] <grkblood13> dooner, any tipcs on a prog i can use to pull it?
[20:04] <ZeZu> that is the restricted nvidia driver, good
[20:04] <dooner> grkblood1, you need to know what codec is inside the mkv file
[20:04] <ZeZu> WAR-JC,  I dont know then, i never use wine
[20:04] <WAR-JC> right driver?
[20:04] <jaggy> hey, when I'm running darkice, and streaming to a shoutcast, I get this anoying beep sound, anyone knows anything about how to fix it?
[20:04] <ZeZu> WAR-JC, yes
[20:04] <WAR-JC> ok
[20:05] <WAR-JC> weird cause I see ppl with worse computers get more fps with wine
[20:05] <WAR-JC> cod4 is the only reason I still use windoze
[20:05] <thrillERboy> hi guys how to make xchat my default client for irc links?
[20:05] <ZeZu> WAR-JC, yes i've heard the same (sometime)
[20:05] <troll> user agent switcher still does not let me watch video on some of the tv network websights
[20:06] <grkblood13> dooner, the file says x264
[20:06] <troll> oh and i cant spell
[20:06] <thrillERboy> where to look for the application, when firefox prompts me to set my default program for irc links?
[20:06] <kepi> later dudes
[20:06] <grawity> thrillERboy: Firefox Edit -> Preferences -> Applications, I think.
[20:06] <grawity> Wait, nevermind
[20:07] <grkblood13> dooner, nfo says video: 1280*536 @ 4443
[20:07] <dooner> grkblood1, You should be able to do it using ffmpeg, but I cannot find the link i remembergin
[20:08] <BiosElement> Anyone know offhand the console command to install all deb's in a folder?
[20:09] <mattbd> BiosElement: sudo dpkg -i *.deb from within the folder
[20:09] <jaggy> when I'm running darkice, and streaming to a shoutcast, I get this anoying beep sound, anyone knows anything about how to fix it???
[20:09] <BiosElement> mattbd: Thanks for that. Totally slipped my mind for some reason.
[20:09] <dooner> grkblood1, but it has been a while since I've had an mkv to beat on
[20:09] <thrillERboy> grawity, yes! but where should I found the xchat launcher when firefox asks me browse for the application?
[20:09] <JaneDoe> g4lt-lappy: its not watch; and not seeing something to watch a file, so I think I'll just roll with a daily crontab email and some grepping of /var/log/auth.log  Thanks!
[20:09] <grawity> thrillERboy: Hmm, maybe /usr/bin/xchat ?
[20:10] <thrillERboy> looked at the bin. theres no xchat :/
[20:10] <dooner> grkblood1, but this might help...   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-515117.html
[20:10] <grawity> thrillERboy: /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin - look in all three
[20:11] <grawity> thrillERboy: Or try typing this command to Terminal: which xchat
[20:11] <mattbd> thrillERboy: Try the command "whereis xchat"
[20:11] <grkblood13> in the man for ffmpeg i dont see the size i mentioned as a supported size
[20:11] <JaneDoe> hmmm, is there a MTA already in ubuntu (desktop)?
[20:12] <grkblood13> hd720 is 1280*720
[20:12] <grkblood13> but my file says its 720, though the sizes dont match up
[20:13] <thrillERboy> where is gives me bunch of links = xchat: /usr/bin/xchat /usr/lib/xchat /usr/include/xchat /usr/share/man/man1/xchat.1.gz
[20:13] <joeymorin> did an update, now i can't boot.  kernel got moved beyond the 137GB limit my BIOS can see.  sort of know how to fix it: create small partition for /boot.  i'm a little fuzzy on changing grub and some other details.  anyone out there a grub guru?
[20:13] <thrillERboy> haha whereis is the most user friendly code I've every seen :D
[20:14] <grkblood13> mkv isnt an option either in ffmpeg
[20:14] <mattbd> JaneDoe: Not by default, but sendmail is available in the repositories
[20:14] <JaneDoe> k thanks mattbd
[20:14] <jaggy> when I'm running darkice, and streaming to a shoutcast, I get this anoying beep sound, anyone knows anything about how to fix it??? I've googled but I can't seem to find anything about it
[20:15] <JaneDoe> jaggy: the MPAA asking for license revenue? ;)
[20:15] <mattbd> thrillERboy: Sounds like xchat is in /usr/bin/xchat, that's where the binary would normally be anyway by default
[20:15] <JaneDoe> I guess RIAA would be more appropriate
[20:15] <XB23> whats the best virtualization software for ubuntu so i can run VPS's from my ubuntu host?
[20:15] <XB23> vmware?
[20:15] <jaggy> what are you talking about JaneDoe
[20:16] <dooner> grkblood1, you need to extract the audio/video streams before you muck with it.
[20:16] <dooner> grkblood1, look here.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548547&page=4
[20:16] <usser> XB23, virtualbox
[20:16] <frandieguez> \join #elisa
[20:16] <XB23> cheers
[20:16] <mattbd> XB23: Personal preference but I really like Virtualbox
[20:16] <grkblood13> thanks, looking now
[20:16] <XB23> can virtualbox bridge network connections
[20:16] <XB23> so i can use ips binded to the host?
[20:17] <JaneDoe> mattbd: sendmail over postfix?
[20:17] <joeymorin> don't want to nag, i know my /boot problem is esoteric.  just wondering if anyone can even hear me...
[20:17] <shad0w_crash> Heey
[20:17] <thrillERboy> yeah got it thanks mattbd and grawity
[20:17] <mattbd> XB23: I think so. I used it last night to run FreeNAS on top of Windows Vista, and it let me access the NAS from my browser
[20:17] <jrq> hi can some1 help me install ubuntu
[20:17] <shad0w_crash> is there an ubuntu security IRC? (sorry for interupting your conversation;) )
[20:18] <shad0w_crash> whatś the problem jrq ?
[20:18] <mattbd> JaneDoe: I don't really know enough to know which is better, I'm afraid!
[20:18] <jrq> so i tried to install ubuntu and kubuntu using the normal and alternate version
[20:18] <jrq> but it didnt work
[20:18] <realmerx> joeymorin: probably no grub gurus
[20:18] <jrq> i keep getting a error during installation abt missing files
[20:18] <JaneDoe> mattbd: k, thanks.  I used postfix once a looong time ago, so I'll go mess about with that
[20:18] <shad0w_crash> are you installing using a self burned boot cd?
[20:19] <dooner> joeymorin, what exactly is your /boot problem
[20:19] <jrq> yea i downloaded it off the website and then burned it myself
[20:19] <joeymorin> realmerx:  thanks.  any suggestions for an irc channel (i'm absolutely new to irc).  best google hit i found was http://tekguru.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/howto-moving-boot-to-its-own-partition/ but some of it is a bit over my head...
[20:19] <shad0w_crash> ok did you check the md5 hash of the iso?
[20:19] <shad0w_crash> to make sure you download was right?
[20:19] <jrq> yea the hash was the same
[20:20] <jrq> no difference
[20:20] <shad0w_crash> ok,
[20:20] <Adam-85> Hi all
[20:20] <shad0w_crash> did you burned with the lowewst possible speed available?
[20:20] <jaggy> when I'm running darkice, and streaming to a shoutcast, I get this anoying beep sound, anyone knows anything about how to fix it??? I've googled but I can't seem to find anything about it, I'm really desperate :(
[20:20] <theuser1> $ /home/theuser1/googleearth
[20:20] <Adam-85> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 and i updated it , and i need to take the updates to another machine
[20:20] <theuser1> Warning: Unable to create prefs directory '/home/theuser1/.googleearth'. File exists.
[20:20] <jrq> yea 4x
[20:20] <theuser1> ./googleearth-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8: symbolBIO_test_flags, version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference
[20:20] <Adam-85> what can i do ?
[20:20] <FloodBot2> theuser1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <XB23> if i have a 64bit OS then i need AMD64?
[20:20] <shad0w_crash> wich file is missing according to the error?
[20:21] <XB23> kernel 2.6.27.10-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-64  - that would be am64 and not i386 yeh?
[20:21] <theuser1> help ? ^
[20:21] <jiffe1> anyone know a way to use pam_ldap to check passwords in other attribute fields besides userPassword?
[20:21] <joeymorin> dooner:  after an update that included some kernel updates, grub complains "selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios" (cont'd...)
[20:22] <shad0w_crash> @jiffel why should you do that?
[20:22] <jrq> init file
[20:22] <jrq> it says init not found
[20:22] <shad0w_crash> ok
[20:22] <jrq> use init something bootary
[20:22] <shad0w_crash> did you just click burn iso, or did you clcik burn bootable cd, dvd?
[20:22] <jrq> i did burn iso
[20:23] <jrq> i used imgburn
[20:23] <shad0w_crash> ok, did you try an other computer?
[20:23] <dooner> joeymorin, that is a new one for me. i take it /boot isn't its own partition?
[20:23] <jrq> no i didnt
[20:23] <FrozenFire> Is there a command-line way to empty the trash bin? I'd like to create a single-click shortcut next to the trash bin to clear it, rather than right clicking to clear it.
[20:23] <jrq> shud i try it by doing check cd integrity ?
[20:23] <joeymorin> dooner: (...cont'd) some digging showed that my bios only sees 137 GB of my 160GB drive.  looks like the kernel update placed the new kernel sectors outside the 137GB BIOS limit.  (cont'd...)
[20:23] <Adam-85> how to make a copy of updates files to another machine ??
[20:23] <shad0w_crash> no, if the md5 sum of your iso was richt the integrity is all right
[20:24] <shad0w_crash> (unless your md5 command has been compromissed:P )
[20:24] <Hamled> What is the environment variable that has the path used by applications when attempting to load shared objects?
[20:24] <deany> jrq, ive had errors during install about missing files,  the discs i used, my reader did not like at all.
[20:24] <shad0w_crash> is your problem after installing by starting up, or during installation
[20:24] <Im_Toast> Does anyone have any ideas, My sound randomly stopped working yesterday... (and YES I've already checked if the cord is plugged in, if the sound is muted and if the volume is up >.>)
[20:24] <jiffe1> shad0w_crash: because we have an encrypted password field I need to look at
[20:24] <Bram_P> my nudge in amsn is gone... how can I get it back?
[20:24] <jrq> so shud i make a bootavle disk and then try, and try a different media?
[20:24] <deany> they wrote ok, it seemed to install, till, it didnt.
[20:24] <joeymorin> dooner:  correct.  default ubuntu install puts everthing in /.  i know how to create a small partition for /boot (split my existing swap partition) so it will be within the 137GB.  what i'm fuzzy on is bringing grub up to speed with the change.
[20:25] <shad0w_crash> no, if you burn a bootbale iso it's bootable
[20:25] <deany> make a usb stick if you have one.. i do from now on.
[20:25] <mattbd> FrozenFire: On my Kubuntu desktop it's ~./local/Share/Trash/files
[20:25] <shad0w_crash> i should try an other pc
[20:25] <ValentineX> whenever I connect my wireless lan card my ubuntu login screen do not show up :(
[20:25] <jrq> is it possible to try it with a usb stick ?
[20:26] <deany> can you make an iso of the disc ?
[20:26] <shad0w_crash> you could make a usbstick bootable
[20:26] <ValentineX> jrq: ubuntu? yes
[20:26] <FrozenFire> mattbd: Yeah, but I'd rather use a Gnome command to do it. I'm pretty sure there's a registry of trashed files, which would not get cleared.
[20:26] <shad0w_crash> make sure your bios understands it to ;)
[20:26] <shad0w_crash> brb getting a beer:)
[20:26] <deany> see if it has any problems reading.
[20:26] <deany> but yeah, you wont have a ny trouble with a usb stick.
[20:26] <jrq> yea its ubuntu  valentineX
[20:27] <Bram_P> hello, my nudge in amsn is gone, how can I get it back?
[20:27] <mattbd> FrozenFire: Well, that's how KDE seems to handle it - you might want to have a look through the hidden files in your home directory as I don't know how Gnome handles it
[20:27] <posingaspopular> !panels
[20:27] <jrq> thanks for ur help guys
[20:27] <shad0w_crash> if you're unsure about the burning of your cd, you also could order one on the website
[20:28] <Im_Toast> Does anyone have any ideas, My sound randomly stopped working yesterday... (and YES I've already checked if the cord is plugged in, if the sound is muted and if the volume is up >.>)
[20:28] <Hamled> What is the environment variable that has the path used by applications when attempting to load shared objects?
[20:29] <null> Question:  Is it possible to have Wubi piggyback traffic on Windows' IP address?
[20:29] <[MindVirus]> Have you mooed today?
[20:29] <ValentineX> whenever I connect my wireless lan card my ubuntu login screen do not show up :( but when i remove my pci wireless tplink lan card my ubuntu is able to start.
[20:29] <null> moo
[20:30] <[MindVirus]> apt-get moo
[20:30] <jatt> aptitude -v moo
[20:30] <grawity> null: What do you mean by that? (the Wubi thing)
[20:30] <dooner> joeymorin, I think it is just changing the root(x,x) option to point to where the new partition is
[20:30] <superdug> what is the equivalent dpkg flag for rpm -Uvh ?
[20:30] <grawity> [MindVirus]: Offtopic, but you ever seen the fishbot on Quakenet?
[20:30] <[MindVirus]> No.
[20:30] <null> grawity: i need to use it at work, but i need to use the static IP on my work machine
[20:30] <null> i don't want Wubi to need its own seperate ip
[20:31] <grawity> null: Then just configure Ubuntu to use the same IP ...
[20:31] <dooner> null, afaik wubi doesn't use winders for anything save the filesystem. so just set the same static IP in ubuntu and you should be good
[20:31] <grawity> null: Wubi only helps you to install Ubuntu. The rest is completely unrelated to Windows.
[20:31] <null> dooner: Wouldn't you then have an IP conflict?
[20:31] <grawity> null: When you start Ubuntu, Windows isn't running.
[20:31] <null> oh
[20:31] <null> ok
[20:32] <null> I thought it rain like a virtual machine
[20:32] <null> *ran
[20:32] <mattbd> null: No, Wubi is basically a different way of installing Ubuntu
[20:32] <vlcm> hi
[20:32] <vlcm>  i got problem during installation wow wotlk
[20:32] <null> hmm, ok, crap.  that may not be in my favor
[20:32] <grawity> null: Why?
[20:32] <vlcm> i can t click on accept the rules
[20:33] <null> grawity: they probably want me to run windows just because.  the sysadmins get their os of choice, but i dont ;9
[20:33] <Picassotamus> vlcm: Installing from disk?
[20:34] <vlcm> yes
[20:34] <vlcm> i got the disk but i lauch via terminal
[20:34] <ValentineX> No solution for this anybody? :( >whenever I connect my wireless lan card my ubuntu login screen do not show up :( but when i remove my pci wireless tplink lan card my ubuntu is able to start.
[20:34] <null> ValentineX: dmesg
[20:35] <LiMaO> ValentineX: that's a really weird issue =P
[20:35] <shad0w_crash> Is there an IRC channel about security only????
[20:35] <grawity> shad0w_crash: ##security maybe?
[20:35] <dooner> null, you might want to look at something like vmware or the like run ubuntu in a vm, and NAT off the windows IP
[20:35] <shad0w_crash> @gravity, tnx *trying*
[20:35] <grawity> null: ...or VirtualBox instead of VMWare.
[20:36] <null> yeah, that's a little too heavy
[20:36] <Picassotamus> vlcm: I ended up downloading the install, cos installing from disc wasn't working
[20:36] <null> i'll just use a shell account
[20:36] <null> and fucking use putty :/
[20:36] <grawity> null: Why not Ubuntu?
[20:36] <grkblood13> dooner, ive been able to resolve all dependencies except for MP4Box and neroAacEnc do you knwo where i might be able to get these
[20:36] <mattbd> null: I recommend Virtualbox, it's a great way to run any OS in a virtual machine, but you need a powerful enough machine really
[20:36] <null> because i only need li apps
[20:36] <ValentineX> LiMaO:  :(
[20:36] <null> *cli apps
[20:37] <ChrisULM> i'm thinking about installing jaunty. I've never installed a release that wasnt "official", is there anything i should know before i do so?
[20:37] <dooner> grkblood1, no sorry :(.  I've seen neroAacEnc some place.
[20:37] <frandieguez> I'm trying to play some music on my barebone with elisa software that is shared with samba on my laptop
[20:37] <frandieguez>  but elisa refuse to find this shared resource
[20:37] <frandieguez>  but elisa refuse to find this shared resource
[20:37] <frandieguez>  I was search over the internet but I don't find anything about this
[20:37] <frandieguez>  or how to configure the system to make this works
[20:37] <FloodBot2> frandieguez: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:37] <Im_Toast> Does anyone have any ideas, My sound randomly stopped working yesterday... (and YES I've already checked if the cord is plugged in, if the sound is muted and if the volume is up >.>)
[20:37] <dmcdlrn> Anybody know if there is an open source backup software that supports open file backup on an ext3 partition?
[20:37] <cunderid> WHOIS a2
[20:38] <mattbd> null: If overhead is an issue, you could use a lighter Linux distro. TinyCore Linux is only 10mb and could run with very little overhead.
[20:38] <guntbert> !jaunty | ChrisULM
[20:38] <ChrisULM> "lots of breakage"... lol that means no
[20:39] <null> mattbd: complexity of installation is more like it... i dont want to waste time installing a vm, then a guest, then making sure it works... just so i have vim and screen
[20:39] <ZeZu> on a multilib version of ubuntu how can i specify to apt that i want to download 64b versions of libraries ?
[20:40] <mattbd> null: OK, how about the embedded version of Damn Small Linux? That's just a case of unpacking it on Windows and running one app to launch DSL in QEMU
[20:40] <guntbert> ZeZu: just for my curiosity: whats a "multilib version of ubuntu"?
[20:41] <joeymorin> dooner:  thanks, that's what i thought too, but i suspect there's a bit more to is.  since / and /boot will be separate file systems, won't i need to point grub to both?  also, since what was once /boot/grub will now be /grub on /boot, i'll need to change those references as well...
[20:41] <null> right, but then again, i could just putty > shell > screen...  with everything already set up on it
[20:41] <Roasted> I'm trying to find the UUID of /dev/sdb1, whcih sudo fdisk -l shows that Ubuntu sees, but running "blkid" only brings /dev/sda1. How can I find the UUID of /dev/sdb1?
[20:41] <LiMaO> Roasted: have you looked in /etc/fstab
[20:42] <joeymorin> dooner:  i admit i haven't actually tried anything yet, because at the moment i'm still able to boot with a previous kernel (two kernels are the default for 8.10).  if i start messing with grub, i could lock myself out altogether.
[20:42] <mmm11105> Having Bug #234727 in sudo (Ubuntu): “apt: segmentation fault [ubuntu 8.04]”
[20:42] <mmm11105>  
[20:42] <Roasted> LiMaO - This drive was not present in the system when I installed Ubuntu.
[20:42] <grkblood13> man, i cna only find this for windows
[20:42] <mmm11105> How do I install the patch
[20:42] <joeymorin> dooner:  in any case, i have to go to work now, but can i pick your brain at a later time or date?
[20:42] <dimitris> Anyone knows if there is a problem with logmein and firefox 3 or ubuntu? Everytime I try to remote control a pc firefox just stops responding!
[20:42] <mattbd> null: True. Personally I think Virtualbox is the most flexible option, but you need plenty of ram on your system
[20:43] <brane> I use Ubuntu 8.10 with Wicd network manager and its work super !
[20:43] <war10ck> mattbd is right about virtualbox
[20:44] <psychic> can someone tell me if sqlite offers website editing options?
[20:44] <Hamled> What is the environment variable that has the path used by applications when attempting to load shared objects?
[20:45] <Roasted> How can I find the UUID of a hard drive besides blkid? Gparted and fdisk -l show I have a 2nd drive installed but blkid shows only 1.
[20:45] <ValentineX> brane:  can u teach me wicd?
[20:46] <psychic> and does anyone know how much it could be affecting my computer performane to be using ubuntu with an unsupported chipset
[20:46] <psychic> ?
[20:46] <guntbert> Roasted: try blkid  /dev/sdb
[20:46] <LiMaO> Roasted: try 'blkid /dev/sdb1'
[20:46] <brane> yes wicd works fine with static ip adress !
[20:46] <Psychoholic>  is there a way to enter "safe mode" in kubuntu or use a cd to restore the os back to defaults?
[20:46] <Roasted> I did.
[20:46] <Roasted> nothing shows up.
[20:46] <Roasted> yet it doesnt reject the command by saying not found, it just comes back to the prompt showing me nothing
[20:47] <macman_> guys i got a question
[20:47] <guntbert> !ask | macman_
[20:47] <macman_> im getting there
[20:47] <Mefached> Is there a terminal command I can use to update Firefox so that it can do YouTube, Pandora, etc? I don't have the fancy GUI tools because this is a minimalistic install.
[20:47] <macman_> i just mounted a dvd right as a block device / FS .. i have a VIDEO_TS folder ..what is the best way to copy it to my hd .. rsync or just copy and paste ?
[20:47] <Mefached> An apt-get?
[20:48] <Xcell> Is (ufw) better than firestarter?
[20:48] <LiMaO> Mefached: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:48] <mattbd> Mefached: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:48] <deany> lol
[20:48] <psychic> did anyone get my question?
[20:48] <LiMaO> that's what i call efficiency =P
[20:48] <LiMaO> psychic: what was it?
[20:49] <deany> photo finish but LiMaO took it
[20:49] <vexic> has anyone here used talk before?
[20:49] <guntbert> !anyone | vexic
[20:49] <jdwarta1> talk?
[20:50] <psychic> 2 parts one, i have an unsupported chipset how bad could this be affeting my computer performance and 2, does anyone know anything about sq lite?
[20:50] <mrwes> Talk is command line , no?
[20:50] <Roasted> nobody knows?
[20:50] <mrwes> !Talk
[20:50] <mrwes> heh
[20:50] <LiMaO> guntbert: try being helpful, instead of abusing the bot =p
[20:50] <jose> hora
[20:50] <Cpudan80> psychic: shouldn't really matter all that much; sqlite is just a smaller SQL server you can use, doesnt support everything MySQL does, but its pretty good
[20:51] <guntbert> LiMaO: ??
[20:51] <LiMaO> psychic: what are you using the database for?
[20:51] <vexic> jdwarta1: talk is in command line, i'm new but i'm trying to be able to easily communicate with other people logged on to the server that i'm trying to run
[20:51] <jon23d> We're getting a new computer today, and I want to copy everything from mine to it (and hopefully change the username).  However; the hardware is completely different.  The new one is 32bit, this is 64.  The new one has 1 hard drive, I have four.  I have multimon, new one has one.  Do I need to install software on new one first?  Is there an easy way to do this?
[20:51] <mattbd> vexic: I believe write might be already installed and that might do what you're after
[20:51] <mrwes> jdwarta1, you can also use ytalk
[20:51] <LiMaO> vexic: do you mean the same network? i've tried that talk command a while ago, but didn't work properly
[20:52] <NeT_DeMoN> how do you dual screen Ubuntu on a laptop with an ATi graphics card? I'm not real sure which ATi card I have, I know it's a Radeon but here's my lspci results http://ex0dus.pastebin.com/d425b0261
[20:52] <funkyHat> NeT_DeMoN: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:52] <psychic> actualy the question about sq lite was mostly 2 find out if i could use it to edit a website i made  the major question tho is my computers chipset shows up as unsupported is this affecting my performance in general?
[20:52] <NeT_DeMoN> or better yet not dual screen but use an external source for your monitor
[20:52] <vexic> Lima0: Right now I'm trying to get it to work for 2 users that are connected to the server using putty
[20:52] <NeT_DeMoN> 8.10 Ibex
[20:52] <null> jon23d: It would be best if you install the OS on the new one and just copy your /home over
[20:53] <jon23d> null: just chown/chgrp everything?
[20:53] <funkyHat> NeT_DeMoN: so you'd prefer just to use the external monitor, not both?
[20:53] <Roasted> How can I find the UUID of a hard drive besides blkid? Gparted and fdisk -l show I have a 2nd drive installed but blkid shows only 1.
[20:53] <NeT_DeMoN> funkyHat: yes
[20:54] <LiMaO> vexic: well, try qchat if you need a gui though
[20:54] <NeT_DeMoN> I usually keep my laptop closed anyways
[20:54] <BartoN-> guys help me , want to use webcam and sound like in msn , just with ubuntu
[20:54] <mrwes> vexic, did you install talk and/or ytalk?
[20:54] <vexic> mrwes: I installed talk and talkd
[20:55] <funkyHat> NeT_DeMoN: ok, you have a radeon x1200 (or x12** anyway)
[20:55] <mrwes> vexic, and you started the daemon?
[20:55] <NeT_DeMoN> funkyHat:
[20:55] <NeT_DeMoN> yes^
[20:55] <mattbd> BartoN: If you're looking for an application to use your webcam, Cheese is the most popular one
[20:55] <vexic> mrwes: i'm not sure, so probably not
[20:55] <mrwes> vexic, well that might be why it's not working :)
[20:55] <BartoN-> mattbn , but i want to use it to chat with friends who are using msn ,
[20:56] <funkyHat> NeT_DeMoN: which graphics drivers are you using at the moment?
[20:56] <vexic> mrwes: can you tell me how i would start it? ;p
[20:56] <mattbd> BartoN: That might potentiall be tougher. Let me have a look...
[20:56]  * funkyHat guesses fglrx
[20:56] <UbuntuBoy> Hi
[20:56] <NeT_DeMoN> funkyHat: the one Ubuntu installs when you enable it in the restricted drivers options
[20:56] <NeT_DeMoN> so fglrx I do believe is correct
[20:57] <ChotaZ> OMG
[20:57] <Roasted> nevermind - I had to run blkid as root for wahtever reason
[20:57] <mrwes> vexic, check out post #4 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=999187
[20:57] <UbuntuBoy> I Have Skype In Ubuntu 8.10 I Can hear The voice of my friend but my friend can't hear my voice
[20:57] <vexic> mrwes: thanks
[20:57] <progre55> hey people, when will the ubuntu 9.04 be officially released?
[20:58] <Xcell> 23rd
[20:58] <UbuntuBoy> I Have Skype In Ubuntu 8.10 I Can hear The voice of my friend but my friend can't hear my voice
[20:58] <nutzer> dd
[20:58] <funkyHat> NeT_DeMoN: I guess there aren't any buttons on the laptop to switch screens (Fn f5 or something like that), or at least they don't work with Ubuntu
[20:58] <mrwes> vexic, from a terminal type ps aux | grep talkd   to see if the daemon is running
[20:58] <jon23d> UbuntuBoy: can you make a test call?
[20:58] <progre55> Xcell, thanks
[20:58] <Xcell> k
[20:58] <NeT_DeMoN> funkyHat: nope, don't work with Ubuntu
[20:58] <syuroff> is a dist-upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 (server) known to hose wordpress?  I'm stuck on a database error: "error establishing a database connection"
[20:58] <syuroff> mysql works fine for phpbb
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:59] <mattbd> BartoN: You could try aMSN, which may support MSN video chat, or I've heard Kopete does
[20:59] <UbuntuBoy> yes i make the test call i hear the voice of ECho But my voice not
[20:59] <funkyHat> NeT_DeMoN: are you ok with restoring a working Xorg.conf if we break your current one?
[20:59] <jon23d> UbuntuBoy: have you tried turning your microsphone up?
[20:59] <UbuntuBoy> yes im tried this
[21:00] <jon23d> UbuntuBoy: what sound system are you using?
[21:00] <UbuntuBoy> Alsa
[21:00] <mrwes> vexic, you could also use the write command - and that is already installed in your bash shell
[21:00] <hmw> UbuntuBoy: additionally, you might need to switch off skypes auto-volumn-adjust feature and activate +20dB boost... tried that?
[21:00] <jon23d> UbuntuBoy: if skype lets the test call go through, then your sound system is probably working fine.  Are you certain that the microphone is not muted?   Can you record in the sound recorder using alsa too?  Right Jack, etc?
[21:01] <tubuntu> Hello i have a problem conecting xp to ubuntu server. Trying to conect network disk and get login window. type in username and password, but it will not work
[21:01] <UbuntuBoy> Ok I trie your idea
[21:01] <NeT_DeMoN> funkyHat: sure, I'm not quite sure how to do that but I can probably figure it out
[21:01] <Bram_P> hello, my nudge at amsn is gone, how can I get it back?
[21:02] <funkyHat> NeT_DeMoN: drop to a shell and log in, then copy the backup you're about to make back into place :)
[21:02] <mrwes> what tty is my shell on from within X ?
[21:02] <jerseyse410> sweetness, thank you for picking up tayutama, thats awesome
[21:03] <NeT_DeMoN> funkyHat: hold that thought, I'm terribly sorry but I have to go, I have a two day bus to catch
[21:03]  * NeT_DeMoN dies
[21:03] <BartoN-> best alternative for msn , for ubuntu ? so that webcam and voice works, when msging msn users
[21:03] <funkyHat> mrwes: pts/(n)
[21:03] <jerseyse410> wrong channel, crap
[21:03] <hmw> mrwes: x runs on #7
[21:03] <mrwes> k..thought so. -- thanks
[21:03] <NeT_DeMoN> funkyHat: thank you for your assistance though
[21:03] <f0ster> I checkouted my svn, and when I type svn commit from the path i loaded it from, it doesn't seem to update the files i've changed, any suggestions?
[21:04] <funkyHat> NeT_DeMoN: no doubt I'll still be hanging around with nothing better to do when you get back
[21:04] <usser> f0ster, svn update maybe :)
[21:04] <funkyHat> ;)
[21:04] <NeT_DeMoN> funkyHat: haha alright
[21:04] <ferronica> i have total 4 partition, hd0,0 Xp pro, hd0,1 ubuntu 8.10 64bit, hd0,2 vista 64bit, hd0,3 server enterprise edition. Now problem = unable to boot my vista ultimate 64bit partiton after installing server 2003
[21:04] <usser> f0ster, or was it svn add, anyway you have to explicitly tell svn you updated a file
[21:04] <f0ster> usser: no i'm trying to write the svn not get files from it
[21:04] <mrwes> Funkyhat: pts/0 was it
[21:04] <f0ster> usser: isn't that what svn commit is for ??
[21:04] <usser> f0ster, yea my bad. i think its svn add
[21:05] <funkyHat> mrwes: you can get a list of the current ttys that are in use by running the command w
[21:05] <HammerHead66> is there anyone that can look at this Xorg.0.log and tell me if they see an error that would cause a memory leak?   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25215394/Xorg.0.log
[21:05] <usser> f0ster, no, commit uploads the files to the server, thats all. but you still have to tell svn you changed a file. im speaking from my little experience with svn, maybe theres a better way.
[21:05] <rurapente> ok, i have a problem - apart from a coffee addiction. I plug in external monitor, set intrepid to "clone" but it keeps defaulting to 1024x768. However if i set it to not clone, i then get access to 1280x resolution. how do  get it to work like that for cloning too?
[21:05] <sd32> is there a gos irc?
[21:06] <f0ster> ahh you need to manually add them for the commit command to recognize them, got it
[21:06] <f0ster> usser: no i got it, that was it, i had to add files
[21:06] <usser> f0ster, cool
[21:06] <f0ster> I figured it would just commit and entire directory with new files in it but i had to explicitly add files
[21:06] <ferronica> i have total 4 partition, hd0,0 Xp pro, hd0,1 ubuntu 8.10 64bit, hd0,2 vista 64bit, hd0,3 server enterprise edition. Now problem = unable to boot my vista ultimate 64bit partiton after installing server 2003
[21:07] <usser> f0ster, i havent used command line client that much
[21:07] <brane> i have 3 sata hard disk with 4 partitions on single disk = 12 partitions and 12 sistems !
[21:07] <jdwarta1> ferronica: tough luck.........idk anything about either
[21:07] <guntbert> ferronica: are you certain that is a ubuntu support problem?
  how do i add my vista partition
[21:08] <UbuntuBoy> im trying to record sound but nothing is recording
[21:08] <psychic> anyone know of a very userfriendly php editor i have no experience in webdesign
[21:08] <rurapente> ferronica : what bootloader?
 yes
[21:08] <WAR-JC> can anybody help me with CVScedega
[21:09] <rurapente> anyone help with my screen resolution not letting me change from 1024x768 for an external monitor?\
[21:09] <funkyHat> psychic: gedit ;)
[21:09] <UbuntuBoy> im trying to record sound but nothing is recording
[21:09] <fitzgerald> psychic, try NVU
 right now only hd0,0 ubuntu can read
[21:09] <WAR-JC> is there someone here that I can ask a private question?
[21:09] <sd32> when i type a specific address into thunderbird to a comcast address it autocompletes the .net extension as netcrearting..?????????
[21:09] <WAR-JC> about cvscedega
[21:09] <psychic> thank u
[21:09] <BCampbell> psychic, there's Nvu, Bluefish, and one other whose name escapes me right now..hold on lemme look
[21:09] <rurapente> ferronica: did you install the windows partitions/OSs AFTER the ubuntu bootloader? (guessing grub)
[21:09] <UbuntuBoy> im trying to record sound but nothing is recording
[21:10] <psychic> gedit is ubuntu friendly?
 yes over ubuntu i have installed windows
[21:10] <BCampbell> psychic, yes but no code highlighting
[21:10] <XB23> its unix
[21:10] <XB23> so yeh
[21:10] <psychic> alright thanks
[21:10] <rurapente> ferronica: so basically grub doesnt know you have anything else.
[21:11] <rurapente> ferronica: i beleive you need to find a howto on adding additional bootable partitions and operating systems to an existin grub config.
[21:11] <wizared> im using open office. where it should say file,edit, ect... there is a line the whole tool bar is nothing but lines
[21:11] <CoasterMaster> !compiz
[21:11] <guntbert> ferronica: please talk to rurapente, she/he is already trying to help
[21:12] <jon23d> UbuntuBoy: I've had issues with skype in the past, but if you can make that test call, then I have trouble believeing that the mic is plugged into the right port and turned up.  You are double-clicking the sound icon on the taskbar?  Enabled the advanced properties?  You should, at a minimum, be able to hear yourself through the speakers when you un-mute themic
 i want ubuntu to read my all windows partition
[21:12] <maxxist> is there an ubuntu dev channel?
[21:12] <UbuntuBoy> ok
[21:12] <rurapente> ferronica: according to Google - > http://www.everyjoe.com/newlinuxuser/adding-other-operating-systems-to-grub/
 is there any terminal command which will do
[21:13] <RedMushroom> is there a way to allow me to do a remote graphical desktop connection to a box running ubuntu8.1 from a box running vista that will allow me to contol the remote machine? (ie turn the internet into a really long wire for the remote box's keyboard, mouse, monitor)
[21:13] <HammerHead66> ﻿is there anyone that can look at this Xorg.0.log and tell me if they see an error that would cause a memory leak?   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25215394/Xorg.0.log
[21:13] <rurapente> ferronica: that website has the 3 lines you need to type to add it.
[21:13] <rurapente> RedMushroom: VNC
 same i did, but no help
[21:13] <BCampbell> RedMushroom, Look into NX from nomachine.  setit up on my 8.10 AMD64 and vista laptop
[21:13] <rurapente> RedMushroom: no encryption though, keep in mind.
[21:13] <wizared> can anyone help with my open office problem
[21:14] <BCampbell> NX has encryption
[21:14] <RedMushroom> BCampbell: not worried about encryption, but thanks.
[21:14] <KerrMD> Looking for help in trying to get the left side tree view back in nautilus on jaunty beta
[21:14] <guntbert> wizared: ask in #openoffice.org please
[21:14] <rurapente> ferronica: use the paste tool thingie from ubuntu to show me your grub config file
[21:14] <RedMushroom> rurapente: do you happen to have a link?
[21:14] <BCampbell> RedMushroom, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
 ok
[21:14] <BCampbell> NX is much faster than VNC as well
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> could use X forwarding over ssh
[21:15] <rurapente> RedMushroom: vnc4server and other flavors are in apt. as for windows google for a vnc client.
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/148563/
[21:15] <UbuntuBoy> I think my problem is more diffculte i goback to Vista I Think
[21:16] <RedMushroom> BCampbell: thankyou for the information. i think you won me over. :) will i need to google for a vista client for NX like rurapente said i would for VNC?
[21:16] <realmerx> BCampbell: just go to nomachine.com
[21:16] <rurapente> RedMushroom: go with BCampbell idea, i have not tried NX but VNC is slow.
 i tried every partition, only one windows partition worked HD0,0 and ubuntu partition HD0,1
[21:16] <realmerx> NX is pretty fast
[21:16] <UbuntuBoy> can i help me to restaure the audio value to default
[21:17] <BCampbell> RedMushroom,  http://www.nomachine.com/ free client there, use the instruction in ubntu forum to setup the linux side
[21:17] <rurapente> anyone : does grub need a bootable partition to be marked as active to load the OS? or only ITS partition that grub is on?
[21:17] <RedMushroom> BCampbell: awesome. thank you very much
 i think ubuntu need to read all partition again
[21:17] <BCampbell> RedMushroom, you're welcome
[21:17] <jon23d> UbuntuBoy: have you tried ubuntu forums?  There is definitely a solution
[21:17] <UbuntuBoy> OK You Can Give me the link
[21:18] <f0ster> anyone have trouble installing anjuta from 8.10? I get some kind of orbit networking errors when I try to load it
 one more fdisk -l  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148565/
[21:18] <RyanPrior> How do I install a deb-src package?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> RyanPrior: it wil need compiling
[21:18] <HammerHead66> ﻿is there anyone that can look at this Xorg.0.log and tell me if they see an error that would cause a memory leak?   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25215394/Xorg.0.log
[21:18] <KerrMD> Looking for a hand with nautilus when someone has a free moment please. (9.04 beta)
 is there any problem in my menu.lst
[21:18] <harveykwok1> hi guys, I was trying to copy some files from my windows shared folder using smb... it was a 2GB file and I found the smb process(forgot the name)  keeps using the CPU time up to like 90%... then, finally, my CPU was overheat... is there any known issue on SMB?  What should I collect to report the bug?
[21:19] <jon23d> RyanPrior: dpkg --install filename
[21:19] <RyanPrior> ActionParsnip: That is what I want to do. What tool do I use to compile and install it?
[21:19] <rurapente> ferronica: hold on
 Ok
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> !compile ~ RyanPrior
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> !compile
[21:20] <astro928> i have multiple .avi files from my conference, and i have external subtitles in srt I made for it. how can I mux all of them together in one file to then burn into a dvd which can be read in any dvd player? kind of a big question, i know, guess i'm going to make a tutorial for it once I learn
[21:20] <sliderman> ls
[21:20] <rurapente> ferronica: which partition is windows vista on?
[21:20] <usser> astro928, devede
[21:20] <rurapente> according to how you isntalled it, not what your grub config file says
[21:20] <sliderman> !iso
[21:20] <funkyHat> astro928: handbrake might be able to do that, or devede
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> astro928: vlc can do it
[21:21] <HammerHead66> !quicksand
[21:21] <cjones> i have lost all the icons on my desktop could someone help me get them back i am also missing a menu on my top panel
[21:21] <astro928> usser, funkyHat : so devede can mix more than one file, with more than one subtitle and then finish it in only one dvd?
 vista HD0,2
[21:21] <astro928> didn't know that, gotta give a try
[21:22] <usser> astro928, should be able to
[21:22] <HammerHead66> !memoryleaks
[21:22] <astro928> ActionParsnip: which part? mixing the files?
 but it showing error while booting HD0,2 :(
[21:22] <funkyHat> astro928: I don't know for sure, I've not needed to do that myself, but I've heard they can do things like that
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> astro928: yes it can put the subtitles in teh video
[21:22] <rurapente> ferronica: yes but did you install vista on partition 3 or 2?
 you can take control of my PC if you want
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> astro928: then as usser says, devede can make it into a dvd iso
 2
[21:23] <rurapente> ferronica: then that should read (hd0,1) in your grub config
[21:23] <astro928> ActionParsnip: you can add it permanently? didn't know that either... thanks for the tip ;)
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> ferronica: don't do that. there is no way to garuntee security of your system after, who knows what may happen
[21:24] <rurapente> ferronica: partition 1 is called 0 to grub.
[21:24] <guntbert> HammerHead66: I've never seen an indication for a memory leak in an xorg.log. Why do you expect one?
[21:24] <rurapente> ferronica: and 2 is 1 and so on
 ya
[21:24] <HammerHead66> ﻿guntbert: just seeing if there is one
 0 xp and 1 ubuntu and 2 vista
[21:25] <rurapente> ActionParsnip: aww man and here i was looking forward to another free smtp relay for my spam :(
 and today i installed server 2003 on partition 3
[21:25] <HammerHead66> ﻿guntbert: I am new to linux but I'm trying to triage for a bug that was logged
[21:25] <rurapente> ferronica: ok, so your number is right then i assume
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> rurapente: exactly
[21:25] <rurapente> ferronica: what happens when you boot up the machine?
 yeah
[21:25] <Milosz> hey can I get help somewhere with creating ubuntu packages?
[21:25] <Milosz> not from zero, I have a specific question
[21:25] <HammerHead66> ﻿guntbert: if it not in this area were should I look?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Milosz: ask away, the room will reply if it can
 only partition HD0,1 works where window boot menu show Server and XP pro OSs
 no Vista
[21:26] <cowbellemoo> Milos: #ubuntu-dev or #ubuntu-bugs may help, too
[21:26] <guntbert> HammerHead66: memory leaks are caused by programs written badly - I have no idea how I would look for such a thing in an xorg.log
[21:26] <rurapente> ferronica: step by step. you boot up, it loads grub - right?
 yup
 as normal
[21:27] <rurapente> ferronica: ok, you get all your list of OS on the screen
[21:27] <KerrMD> How could I go about getting back the left side tree and top folder path views in nautilus on 9.04 beta?
 yup
[21:27] <HammerHead66> ﻿guntbert: if it not in this area were should I look?
[21:27] <Milosz> ok
[21:27] <rurapente> ferronica: but only when you choose Server 03 does it boot it - the rest dont boot?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | KerrMD
[21:27] <Milosz> How can I specifc in the control file that for 2 different packages either is fine?
[21:27] <guntbert> HammerHead66: maybe you should read the texts/comments for that special bug
[21:27] <Milosz> the problem is with libcurl
[21:27] <Milosz> there is libcurl4-dev-openssl and libcurl4-dev-gnutls
[21:27] <Milosz> either is fine
[21:28] <Milosz> I don't know the control syntax for that
[21:28] <psychic> is there a command i can type into the terminal to get bluefish?
 yeah partition HD0,1 boots where server and Xp both i can seee
[21:28] <rurapente> ferronica: how did you create those partitions? did you make all BEFORE installing Windows OSs or some afterward?
 i think server grasp the Xp
[21:29] <WAR-JC> I get this error when trying to install cedega
[21:29] <WAR-JC> in 9.04
[21:29] <WAR-JC> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cedega:
[21:29] <WAR-JC>  cedega depends on python2.4-dbus; however:
[21:29] <WAR-JC>   Package python2.4-dbus is not installed.
[21:29] <FloodBot2> WAR-JC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <HammerHead66> ﻿guntbert:http://paste.ubuntu.com/148576/
[21:29] <scunizi> When copying from Abiword and pasting into OpenOffice Word the first character of the first paragraph has a "note" attached and is signified by a small yellow square.  I want to eliminate it.. anyone know how?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | WAR-JC
[21:30] <Mc-Kay> Hi, I need some help :), I boot the system as normal but when I get to the session login, I can type or use the mouse, is this a problem with DBus?
 for installing server 2003, from vista computer management, used the tool shrink partition after that booted via server 2003 CD formatted and installed :)
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Mc-Kay: does it happen with all users?
[21:30] <psychic> BCambell can i download bluefish with terminal and if so what is the command
[21:30] <rurapente> ferronica : ok i need sleep its late, so i have 2 diagnosis. could be one of the, could be none.
 OK
[21:31] <crivera> where do we place our endorsed jar files?
[21:31] <unop> psychic,  sudo apt-get install bluefish
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> psychic: sudo apt-get install bluefish
[21:31] <Mc-Kay> i cant change or do anything, usb mouse or keyboard appears to do nothing, if I go in via shell only, I cant see any connected devices
[21:31] <psychic> thank u
 what are those ?
[21:31] <guntbert> HammerHead66: thats about jaunty - you will be better off in #ubuntu+1
[21:31] <rurapente> ferronica: 1 - vistas loader thinks its at a partition its not, so it cant load. try the recovery cd and do a repair on it. or 2 - vista is actually on the second harddisk sdb so your grub file should read (hd1,0) for vista.
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Mc-Kay: can you boot to recovery root console, create a new user then log in as that user?
[21:32] <Mc-Kay> the system worked before, when i was going something is gparted and this closed unexpectedly
[21:32] <HammerHead66> ﻿guntbert: ok
[21:32] <Mc-Kay> I can try
 your second one is  wrong
 all windows installed on HD0
[21:33] <rurapente> ferronica: i was going on your fdisk printout for second one - it shows an NTFS partition on your second, 200GB disk :)
[21:33] <BartoN-> best msn alternative for ubuntu , when I want to use webcam and voice , to other msn users
[21:33] <rurapente> ferronica: which also has 2 partitions.
 200GB is just for data storage
[21:33] <rurapente> ferronica: ok, so it must be that vista doesnt know where it lives anymore
 both partition
[21:34]  * artificialife has a question about ubuntu hardy nautilus
[21:34] <rurapente> ferronica: if it was grub, it would not boot anything else properly - and you say you have the right (hdx,x) entry so that only leave the problem on Vista's side.
[21:34] <sebsebseb> artificialife: just ask
[21:34] <Mc-Kay> ActionParsnip, this doesnt work, as soon as I get to the sesson login, I cant do anything, I see the cursor blocking in the input box, but it doesnt allow any input, nor can i move the mouse pointer into the box to input the user or pass
[21:34] <HammerHead66> ﻿guntbert: ty for the help
[21:34] <artificialife> i need to restore from the trash
[21:35] <artificialife> and it seems there is no way to
 do you know any command for terminal, updating GRUB to read all partition again
[21:35] <guntbert> HammerHead66: yw :-)
[21:35] <noodlesgc> artificialife: I think you are out of luck. Did you already empty it?
[21:35] <artificialife> no
[21:35] <artificialife> i can't drag and drop it back though
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Mc-Kay: reboot and press esc at grub, chosse recovery mode, then root consle
[21:36] <Mc-Kay> i have
[21:36] <mingus> I just installed ubuntu on this centrino laptop I have, and upon install, I noticed it's terribly slo
[21:36] <mingus> w
[21:36] <Mc-Kay> im at the shell, as root
[21:36] <mingus> half the time the mozilla window turns grey and dark, then starts up again 10 seconds later
[21:36] <pteague> if i'm doing `dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb` ... does it matter whether /dev/hda is mounted read only or not?
[21:36] <mingus> the terminal does this too, it turns grey for 10 seconds then starts up again the second I ask ubuntu to do any work :/
 you there???
[21:36] <noodlesgc> artificialife: right click end it should have a restore option.
[21:36] <kanzie> anyone have a link to how I set up networking on my new installed ubuntu LTS-server
[21:36] <artificialife> already tried
[21:37] <mrwes> pteague, will any of the files on /dev/hda be in use?
[21:37] <artificialife> rythmbox is aboutto lose me 26gigs of music if i can't fix this
[21:37] <rurapente> ferronica: i dont know. to re-install grub you could do sudo grub-install /dev/sda  but i take no responsibility if it leaves you with a paperweight.
[21:37] <noodlesgc> artificialife: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[21:37] <artificialife> hardy nautilus
[21:38] <Mike_lifeguard> I used to use PuTTY to SSH in to a remote server - what would I use instead on ubuntu now?
 then why its not reading partitions hd0,2 and hd0,3
[21:38] <noodlesgc> artificialife: ah, rather than dragging and dropping, try copy and pasting
[21:38] <artificialife> ok
[21:38] <magnetron> Mike_lifeguard→ use the regular terminal and the "ssh" command
[21:39] <pteague> mrwes: /dev/hda is a partitioned drive with 1 of the partitions being my current OS... i have a separate drive for /home/ ... i'm wondering if mounting it read only is enough or if i need to boot from a live cd & do it that way
[21:39] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, ok
[21:39] <Mike_lifeguard> magnetron: thanks
[21:39] <grkblood13> dooner, u still around bud?
[21:39] <PhotoJim> Mike_lifeguard: there is also a PuTTy package for Linux, but I do that magnetron suggests.  far easier.
[21:39] <mrwes> pteague, I'd boot from a Live CD and then dd the partition
[21:39] <rurapente> ferronica: is the partition with vista on it marked as active?
 yes
[21:40] <SkyNetMaster> hi, wouldbe greatfull for urgent helt :9 have locked out my self from the system :) I have changd fstab and added noatime, nodiratime, data=writeback, and now xserver wount start, and I get only in read-only system so I cant restore fstab. how can I fix this?
[21:40] <pist0l-fish> does ubuntu come with NTFS support out of the box? It seems to be mounting all of my USB drives as read-only. Looking at the access list, it says they're mounted rwx, but I cannot modify them
[21:40] <magnetron> Mike_lifeguard→ quick intro: start the terminal and type "ssh username@ssh-server.example.com"
 and server installed in partition HD0,3 not in HD0,0
[21:40] <rurapente> ferronica: ok then im out of ideas. i say broken vista install for some reason. maybe server 2003 mixed something up and overwrote its boot files, i am all out of ideas now
[21:41] <got_milk4> pisto0l-fish: yes, my NTFS partitions mount and work fine. Your USB drives are more likely to be FAT32 though unless you specifically formatted them as NTFS.
 LOL ok NP
[21:41] <mrwes> pist0l-fish, did you install the ntfs-3g driver in ubuntu?
[21:41] <pist0l-fish> I did
[21:41] <rurapente> ferronica: FYI, maybe try only linux OS and get vmware-server its free and install you windows systems on it in future when you need so many on one machine.
[21:41] <artificialife> noodlesgc: that still doesn't work
[21:41] <pist0l-fish> mrwes: it seems to have come with it, I have both mount.ntfs and mount.ntfs-3g
[21:41] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: most USB drives come as FAT32...are you sure it's NTFS?
[21:41] <mrwes> ahh..k
 hey
[21:42] <pist0l-fish> got_milk4: not entirely too sure, actually. Maybe I should check :)
 demesg can give u some info
[21:42] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: just a thought :)
[21:42] <Davide> scunizi hey
[21:42] <noodlesgc> artificialife: hm, thats odd. I'm not sure, I know it is possible, but I am running Intrepid, and I have a restore option. Keep asking, I am sure someone can help you
[21:43] <sliderman> i am trying to boot the minimalcd with grub could someone please help me configure it?
[21:43] <pist0l-fish> got_milk4: if they're fat16/32, shouldn't the definitely be working?
[21:43] <Mike_lifeguard> magnetron: how do I provide my key though?
[21:44] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: I would think so, at least mine work for me. What version are you on?
[21:44] <Mc-Kay> ActionParsnip, ok, its not an user issue
[21:44] <magnetron> Mike_lifeguard→ ssh -i keyfile username@server
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Mc-Kay: but your device worked ok in console mode didnt it
[21:45] <Mc-Kay> ActionParsnip, its when you do startx and your not able to use the keyboard or mouse,
[21:45] <artificialife> noodlesgc: i've figured it out not enough space on the drive
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> got_milk4: sudo fdisk -l will tell you the file system its using ;)
[21:45] <Mc-Kay> the keyboard works upto the point you do startx
[21:45] <sthalik> hey, how do i disable emulating 3 mouse buttons in xorg?
[21:45] <pist0l-fish> got_milk4: 8.04, xubuntu
[21:46] <Mc-Kay> i cant connect to the net on this machine, connect any HDs, or control it via any input devices, I can use it in the shell
[21:46] <grkblood13> has any1 used MP4Box?
[21:46] <SkyNetMaster> anybody can help on how to write to read-only file system?
[21:46] <asdasd2> hlp http://tinyurl.com/ctlz45
[21:46] <Mc-Kay> what is Dbus?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Mc-Kay: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then reboot. that will make the xorg.conf back to default. it may help (it may affect video settings)
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> !dbus
[21:46] <xeo> hello all
[21:46] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: weird, try using sudo fdisk -l like ActionParsnip mentioned and see what file system the drivers are really using
[21:46] <xeo> kinda have a real newb question, but can't seem to work it out in my mind
[21:47] <RedMushroom> when setting up freenx on ubuntu 8.1, do i need to setup port forwarding for the port it's listening to?
[21:47] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: tbh i have a bunch of USB drives and not one hasn't mounted as read-only
[21:47] <xeo> can i install ubuntu on an external hardrive and tell my laptop to boot from the external drive
[21:47] <unop> xeo, sure
[21:47] <bananagun> quick question: I've installed ubuntu on VMware under winXP from the ubuntu-alternative iso, and skipped X11 cause I just want CLI. But boot options don't let me set vga=719 or anything (I get an error 318 about it at boot). Do I need to install some kind of package to get the display configured for higher VGA settings? (I'll stay and answer other newbie questions ;)
[21:48] <bananagun> sorry for longspam
[21:48] <got_milk4> xeo: connecting through USB i suppose?
[21:48] <DJJeff> is it possible to reinstall sound drivers (ALSA/OSS) from scratch without reinstalling ubuntu 8.10
[21:48] <xeo> yeah a usb drive
[21:48] <guntbert> xeo: if you bios supports that
[21:48] <xeo> so tell bios to boot from usb correct?
[21:48] <pist0l-fish> got_milk4: df -T says it's fuseblk ?
[21:48] <got_milk4> xeo: as long as your BIOS supports USB booting then you're good to go
[21:48] <Mc-Kay> ActionParsnip, trying that
[21:48] <xeo> how would i install ubuntu to the external drive?
[21:49] <xeo> cd booting will install it to the internal hardrive correct/
[21:49] <xeo> my bios supports USB booting
[21:49] <badfox> hi
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> !usb
[21:50] <xeo> just can't work through in my mind how i should go about installing to external drive
[21:50] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: okay, fuseblk is a block device which uses fuse, it's used to mount ntfs partitions/drives with read and write access for non-root users
[21:50] <unop> bananagun, 719 doesn't sound like a standard mode .. maybe you wanted 791 ?? http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[21:50] <linuxuser600>  xeo: I'v never tried installing to an external harddrive, but I bet its the same as a usb device
[21:51] <bananagun> unop: 791 I think is what I tried.. it only gives me 80x20 80x50 etc. (or whatever)... I'll read the link and come back, thanks :)
[21:51] <xeo> is it as simple as putting all the ubuntu files on the external hardrive and then booting from usb
[21:51] <besel> any germans here?
[21:52] <guntbert> !de | besel
[21:52] <pist0l-fish> got_milk4: >_< it worked when i used mount. Note to self, never trust fancy GUIs
[21:52] <xeo> thanks user600 will try that first, then come back if i can't figure it out
[21:52] <saywatmang> i'm trying to use my wireless and wired interfaces at the same time, (eth0 and eth1, hooked up to diff routers/ISPs), but I can't get both of them to work at the same time.. (using ssh -b LOCAL_IP), only the first one activated works, the other one doesnt
[21:52] <saywatmang> any ideas?
[21:53] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: i'm assuming then that when it mounts r/o you're just plugging in the drive and letting ubuntu mount it?
[21:53] <craigbass1976> Anyone play pawngame?  I'm looking for some sort of flash 2d shooter that I can run on a local server
[21:53] <pist0l-fish> got_milk4: yea
[21:53] <pist0l-fish> craigbass1976: strange choice of room to ask that in
[21:53] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: so my guess would be that when you manually mounting you're doing it as root as opposed to ubuntu which will mount it as the user
[21:54] <linuxuser600> xeo: This is a how to, I found it on google http://ubuntukids.org/blog/?p=69
[21:54] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: does ubuntu ask for a password when it mounts the drive?
[21:54] <pist0l-fish> got_milk4: no it doesn't
[21:54] <craigbass1976> pist0l-fish: I'm running LAMP with ubuntu; thought here would be a good place.  Better off in off-topic you think?
[21:55] <evantandersen> I just bought a EVGA Geforce 9600 GSO Graphics card. I can't find linux drivers on their website.
[21:55] <pist0l-fish> craigbass1976: well it seems like your question is more about games than it is about Ubuntu, you can try anyways though- you might get lucky
[21:55] <evantandersen> what should I do?
[21:56] <guntbert> craigbass1976: #ubuntu-offtopic is certainly the better place for your question :)
[21:56] <grkblood13> do i have to do a full reboot to restart nautilus
[21:56] <got_milk4> pist0l-fish: unless anyone has a solution for you afaik you may have to mount manually as root - i'm on jaunty (9.04 beta) and it always looks for root password before it mounts any media
[21:56] <pist0l-fish> got_milk4: I'm happy with manually mounting it
[21:56] <Metal|AFK> bai
[21:56] <pist0l-fish> grkblood13: ctr+alt+backspace restarts X server
[21:57] <guntbert> grkblood13: no reboot should be necessary
[21:57] <grkblood13> thanks
[21:58] <pist0l-fish> grkblood13: `pkill -9 nautilus; nautilus` ?
[21:59] <unop> pist0l-fish, you don't have to use -9 there .. that's hard on the receiving process
[22:00] <pist0l-fish> unop: graceful kills are not fast enough! :)
[22:00] <pist0l-fish> unop: that was out of habit though, I shouldn't have told him to use -9
[22:00] <unop> pist0l-fish, SIGKILLs are dangerous...
[22:00] <pist0l-fish> unop :) yeah
[22:00] <pist0l-fish> one of these days I'll regret it
[22:00] <vinicius_nito> Eae galera ^
[22:01] <vinicius_nito> Qual é a boa ?
[22:01] <unop> !br | vinicius_nito
[22:02] <focor> Привет.Где русский?
[22:02] <unop> !ru | focor
[22:03] <zexe> Zboara in avion Voronin, premierul Greceanii si M. Lupu (presedintele Parlamentului). Deodata, se strica motorul, avionul incepe sa cada. Dar este numai o singura parasuta.
[22:03] <zexe> M. Lupu: "Propun sa organizam o votare secreta, cine castiga, acela va lua parasuta". Castiga Voronin. Ia parasuta, le spune la toti "Adio" si sare din avion. Greceanii: "Da, democratia este democratie". M. Lupu: "Eu numai un lucru nu inteleg. Cum de ne-a depasit cu 860 voturi?".
[22:04] <chordogg> is there an easy way to uninstall the desktop in ubuntu?
[22:04] <chordogg> -
[22:04] <sebsebseb> !english |  zexe
[22:04] <kn100> hey was just wondering, why is the 9.04 beta so big? its 4.2gb
[22:04] <sebsebseb> kn100: #ubuntu+1 for 9.04 talk
[22:04] <non7top> черт
[22:04] <unop> kn100, must be the DVD image
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> chordogg: it should be installed by default
[22:04] <non7top> тут еще больше народу
[22:04] <FloodBot2> non7top: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <chordogg> ActionParsnip: yes, but i want to uninstall it
[22:05] <unop> !ru | non7top
[22:05] <m4rk> why are these people talking russian?
[22:05] <non7top> m4rk: they are trolls
[22:05] <digitalfallacy> freenode-connect is being nosey!
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> chordogg: you could use the stuff in !purekde to uninstall all the gnome apps
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> !purekde | chordogg
[22:06] <vijay> hello
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> chordogg: that will uninstall all gnoe apps and you system will boot to command line only
[22:06] <chordogg> ubottu: actually i just want to have a pure console environment...
[22:06] <Matson> how do change locale?
[22:06] <vijay> somebody free for helping me
[22:06] <part-time-jerk> Quick question, is there any reason that my xorg.conf file would revert or change on it's own?
[22:06] <Matson> I am having strange screen issues with mutt inside screen
[22:06] <chordogg> !purekde
[22:06] <digitalfallacy> whois ANTRat
[22:06] <grkblood13> hey, im currently trying to convert a wav to aac, i installed the script on this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249832 and then it said something about restricted aac formats, i clicked on the play aac format and instaled the gstream but when i right click on the audio file to choose a forma to convert to no format are listed, can some1 help?
[22:07] <got_milk4> part-time-jerk: driver updates, maybe?
[22:07] <bananagun> unop: thanks for the help... I just used the wrong code for VGA mode I wanted. I solved it by installing the hwinfo package and running hwinfo --framebuffer.
[22:07] <Lectus> hey guys... I just installed ubuntu and I can play mp3 files, but suddenly it stops playing and will only play again if I reboot... is it a bug or something?
[22:08] <part-time-jerk> got_milk4: not really sure, I had to add some lines to get my g5 working and after a restart it stopped working so I checked the xorg.conf file and it had reverted to the vanilla file intrepid loaded with
[22:08] <vijay> i have problem that i am unable to compile via drivers source code
[22:08] <bananagun> unop: many thanks for responding to my problem so quickly, too! :) I'll stay and try to help out
[22:08] <bimberi> chordogg: uninstall x11-common
[22:09] <got_milk4> part-time-jerk: that's odd, the only reason i would think xorg.conf would change would be that it was modified by driver installations
[22:09] <got_milk4> it's also weird how it went back to plain vanilla xorg
[22:10] <Michelle5> Hello, I am in the command line, and I am trying to remove a package using apt-get. but I am getting an error becuase the files it is trying to remove are not there.
[22:11] <got_milk4> Michelle5: what are you trying to remove? and what command are you using?
[22:11] <chordogg> bimberi: okay, thanks. i'll try that
[22:12] <sdlwof> is there any good audio software to rip audio tracks out of a vob or xvid, change it (like take out pops and clicks)? like goldwave for win32
[22:12] <abdullah> hi
[22:12] <sebsebseb> abdullah: hi
[22:12] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: maybe some where, and maybe you can run that windows app in wine, or  you can in a windows virtual machine, as long as you got enough ram
[22:13] <Michelle5> got-milk4, I am trying to remove postreSql and postresql-common, using apt-get remove etc
[22:13] <abdullah> anyone
[22:13] <abdullah> ?
[22:13] <sdlwof> sebsebseb, yah, but, kinda wanted to stay on a linux only track...
[22:14] <bananagun> hello abdullah :)
[22:14] <got_milk4> Michelle5: so sudo apt-get remove postgresql postgresql-common does not work?
[22:14] <guntbert> Michelle5: thats postgresql - you forgot a g
[22:14] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: maybe you can find something by browsing synaptic.   ,but   these sites could also be useful,  just you should  get most programs off ubuntu's servers, but if is not availalbe etc.  http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com
[22:14] <got_milk4> guntbert: good call, i missed that one :P
[22:14] <m4rk> abdullah: what is the problem?
[22:15] <abdullah> I use 8.10
[22:15] <abdullah> but sometimes machine freezes
[22:15] <guntbert> got_milk4: :-)
[22:15] <abdullah> got milk
[22:16] <abdullah> why?
[22:16] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: yep check those sites out
[22:16] <abdullah> :)
[22:16] <Michelle5> I am getting this, 22) cant open /usr/share/postresql-common/maintscripts-functions
[22:16] <Michelle5> got_milk4, the files are even there
[22:16] <vijay> can anyone help me for gOS
[22:16] <vijay> ?
[22:16] <Michelle5> i checked the paths and found that all those are missing
[22:16] <sebsebseb> vijay: gos is similar to Ubuntu
[22:16] <abdullah> sorry I dont know
[22:16] <sebsebseb> vijay: ,but this is the Ubuntu channel
[22:16] <abdullah> how
[22:16] <guntbert> Michelle5: for the future - you can use <tab> completion for package names too - you still say postres instead of postgres
[22:16] <got_milk4> abdullah: does it always freeze when you're doing something or does it freeze for no particular reason at anytime?
[22:17] <dopamin> abdullah :D
[22:17] <sebsebseb> vijay: however,  maybe   I can help a bit anyway,  in pim
[22:17] <vijay> ok
[22:17] <sebsebseb> vijay: what do you want to do with gos?
[22:17] <abdullah> anytime freezes
[22:17] <kindofabuzz> abdullah, could be memory failure
[22:17] <Michelle5> yes. im remembering the error and typing it on here, the other machine isnt near
[22:17] <vijay> actualy i want to install ubuntu but i was not getting installed but gos is intalled now
[22:18] <abdullah> especially using opera
[22:18] <kindofabuzz> abdullah, could be alot of things, bad memory, bad motherboard, overheating, etc... that cause hard locks
[22:18] <sebsebseb> vijay: ok chat in pm
[22:18] <vijay> but i am unable t install via driver on it
[22:18] <vijay> how in pm i dont know
[22:18] <szymon> czymon
[22:19] <sebsebseb> vijay: my name should have come up click on it
[22:19] <kindofabuzz> sebastien, he can't pm if not registered with nickserv
[22:19] <sebsebseb> kindofabuzz: I don't think that is true
[22:19] <kindofabuzz> or you for the matter
[22:19] <kindofabuzz> sebastien, yes it is
[22:20] <sebsebseb> kindofabuzz: you don't have to be identified on freenode to pm
[22:20] <kindofabuzz> sebsebseb, yes it is
[22:20] <psychomantis> rtfm
[22:20] <jimisrvrox> hey guys ive got this wmp54gs card w/Ubuntu and ndis and all and im trying to figure out why the damn thing isnt working...if anybody could help I would appreciate it.
[22:20] <oCean_> psychomantis: acronyms like that are not welcome in this channel
[22:21]  * kindofabuzz rolls eyes
[22:21] <got_milk4> Michelle5: try sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq postgresql-common
[22:21] <_Brun0_> I mounted a ext3 partition in fstab with: "/dev/sda7 /mnt/media ext3 defaults  0 0" but with that only root have write permission. How do I mount it with 777 (or 0000)? If I add umask it says invalid parameter
[22:21] <oCean_> !pm | psychomantis
[22:21] <erUSUL> !addinfs | _Brun0_
[22:21] <shawn__> Is the gspca module built into the kernel (2.6.27-11)?
[22:21] <erUSUL> !addingfs | _Brun0_
[22:23] <_Brun0_> erUSUL, ubottu:  thing is i did chmod 777 /mnt/media and still no sucess
[22:23] <Michelle5> got_milk4, 1 not fully installed or removed. (nextline) Setting up postgresql-8.3 (release info) (Next line) .:22: Cant open /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintsripts-functions dpkg: error processing postgresql-8.3 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[22:23] <erUSUL> _Brun0_: the best aproach imho is to create folders on the partition and give apropiate permissions to those
[22:23] <_Brun0_> erUSUL, ubottu: it is a blank partition. just formatted with gparted.
[22:23] <Zzeiss> Bluetooth problem... i have an Apple Wireless keyboard (JIS keyboard, it has the Japanese characters that I wanted), which pairs fine with my Macbook when it's running OSX.  It's seen by Ubuntu (after some shenanigans) but won't pair.  "Pairing failed" is all it says.  Any suggestions?
[22:23] <erUSUL> _Brun0_: ubottu is a bot
[22:23] <_Brun0_> erUSUL, lol.
[22:24] <Zzeiss> I *DO* hope that pairing isn't a "you can do it only once to a device" sort of thing...
[22:25] <shawn__> I tried building the module, but I get a compile error related to semaphore.h. I looked around on the developers forums and it was said that the gspca module was integrated into the recent kernels. Modprobe gspca = fatal:not found.
[22:25] <TACPILOT> hello
[22:25] <TACPILOT> any one know of a Linux speech to text App ???
[22:25] <_Brun0_> erUSUL, ok it worked. I was settin permission before mounting. I did chmod /mnt/media AFTER mounting it and it worked. thanks
[22:26] <pcplus> hello?
[22:26] <_Brun0_> pcplus, ?
[22:26] <Michelle5> got_milk4, trying that now, seeing what happens
[22:26] <adodell> Hey I'm looking for a command to reset my ethernet cards and reqauire DHCP. Something similar to ipconfig /renew in windows. Any suggestions?
[22:26] <pcplus> I have an issue here...
[22:26] <Loganhoup> get on with it
[22:27] <pcplus> I am trying to setup ubuntu (actually mythbuntu) server, with diskless clients.
[22:27] <_Brun0_> pcplus, what si it pcplus ?
[22:27] <geofft> Hi, I have a hosed wubi install... it drops to a busybox, if I ls /ubuntu/disks it gives EIO and only lists swap.disk, not root.disk
[22:27] <pcplus> The diskless client is PXE boot
[22:27] <_Brun0_> pcplus, sorry i have no experience in that area.
[22:27] <geofft> but grub (grub4dos or whatever) and Windows can both see root.disk
[22:27] <realmerx> TACPILOT: xvoice?
[22:27] <pcplus> The server will not enable DHCP through the mythbuntu control pannel.
[22:28] <bonzo1993> hi@all, hab grad xubuntu installiert und probs mit der bildschirmauflösung. Es geht maximal nur 800x600
[22:28] <sebsebseb> !de |  bonzo1993
[22:28] <geofft> any idea how to fix it? I'm currently doing a Windows chkdsk. ntfs3g gave no errors in dmesg as far as I saw
[22:29] <TACPILOT>  realmerx: TNX I will take a look
[22:29] <Michelle5> got_milk4. ok that worked to a point, but for some reason I cant connect to the net on the other machine.
[22:29] <pcplus> How can I enable the dhcp server manually?
[22:29] <realmerx> TACPILOT: no personal experience
[22:29] <realmerx> oh well
[22:29] <bootninja> howdy folks
[22:29] <Michelle5> got_milk4. i also need to remove postgresql-8.3 from the list
[22:29] <warn333> running a 9800gtx+ with 2 24" coming from the same card, is it worth me putting in my 8800gt aswell to run the 2nd monitor?
[22:29] <z00m> is there a room for ubuntu studio ?
[22:29] <sebsebseb> z00m: no
[22:29] <z00m> producers etc
[22:29] <z00m> ah ok :/
[22:30] <sebsebseb> z00m: not that I know of
[22:30] <a5x7> Good afternoon, does anyone know how I can view the full boot / all details of boot on ubuntu hardy heron start up, instead of just the ubuntu logo?
[22:30] <got_milk4> Michelle5: sudo apt-get remove postgresql-8.3 should do the trick now. Did that machine have access before or did it just lose it now?
[22:30] <erUSUL> !estudio
[22:30] <erUSUL> !studio
[22:30] <geofft> pcplus, I've installed dhcp/tftp servers manually in the past and had it work
[22:30] <geofft> pcplus, I think dnsmasq can do this?
[22:30] <Cpudan80> !bootsplash
[22:30] <bootninja> ax5x7 I think if you hit f2 on boot you get the log instead of the splash
[22:30] <Cpudan80> hrmm
[22:30] <gvsa123> has anyone here been able to make google earth work well with their install?
[22:30] <Cpudan80> I thought we had a factoid for that ... oh well
[22:30] <sebsebseb> z00m: ok there is a channel
[22:30] <fat_rat> lol
[22:30] <z00m> thanks
[22:31] <z00m> thats erUSUL
[22:31] <erUSUL> a5x7: press "e" to edit the grub entry when in grub menu... remove splash and quiet from the kernel line
[22:31] <z00m> thanks^
[22:31] <sebsebseb> !lol |  fat_rat
[22:31] <Webu> Regarding to that diskless desktop topic - am I right that a local DHCP server is a must?
[22:31] <fat_rat> sebsebseb: you didn't help him a lot ;]
[22:31] <geofft> ah great, Windows chkdsk froze.
[22:32] <a5x7> erUSUL: awesome i think that is what im looking for, once again ubuntu channel rocks! :-) thanks all for the help i will try it out
[22:32] <sebsebseb> fat_rat: no, but he wasn't paying me to either :D
[22:32] <z00m> NEXUIZ rocks
[22:32] <z00m> good bye windows
[22:32] <z00m> haha
[22:32] <fat_rat> sebsebseb: so why you're here for?
[22:33] <sebsebseb> fat_rat: that was a joke, back to what you said
[22:33] <warn333> hey, does anyone know if y
[22:33] <sebsebseb> fat_rat: and I am here to help others
[22:33] <oCean_> fat_rat: z00m this is ubuntu technial support channel, not chat. Please stay on topic
[22:33] <z00m> oCean_, what was offchannel ?
[22:33] <zimnyx> I need to store some files (pictures from monitoring camera) on remote service. Do you know something adequate?
[22:34] <bootninja> also, I believe I've gotta say I'm extremely impressed with the Jaunty beta so far the only real problem I'm having is no sound when my headphones are plugged in
[22:34] <warn333> anyone got any suggestions for increasing the performance when using dual monitors?
[22:34] <sebsebseb> z00m: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:34] <dekkong> warn333: what do you meen? :P
[22:34] <z00m> sebsebseb, no i was asking what i said that was off topic :/
[22:34] <Michelle5> got_milk4, im not having a good time here, and I do not want to totally reinstall this all over again
[22:34] <warn333> it seems to be a bit sluggish
[22:35] <z00m> i just said good bye windows
[22:35] <warn333> im running 2 24" off a 9800gtx+
[22:35] <felix_da_catz> I just installed nividia-180 drivers and now when i  login I get a black screen.
[22:35] <z00m> which means im happy with ubuntu :P
[22:35] <sebsebseb> z00m: yep
[22:35] <dekkong> warn333: ok...well I have dual monitors and a Geforce 6800GT.. works great
[22:35] <Michelle5> got_milk4, from what I am told, everything can be fixed over the root terminal
[22:35] <sebsebseb> z00m: to be honest you were only slighlty off topic when you did that, but no big deal
[22:35] <warn333> then there's some config somewhere that needs changing
[22:35] <got_milk4> Michelle5: did you see the message I posted a while back? did that machine just lose it's connection after you ran dpkg?
[22:35] <z00m> oCean_, brought it up :?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> !ot
[22:36] <brandonban6> How do you guys feel about docks? Does anyone run a sweet dock they'd like to recommend? I tried AWN, but was not impressed :( Any other good ones?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> z00m: yes and talking about it, is being off topic as well
[22:36] <z00m> lmao
[22:36] <sebsebseb> !lmao |  z00m
[22:36] <z00m> sebsebseb, u tell me about it is off topic
[22:36] <Michelle5> got-milk4. there is another problem that is stopping the machines connection, and plugging anything in
[22:37] <z00m> telling^
[22:37] <acr0nym> what's the terminal command to list my memory partition
[22:37] <geofft> is there an equivalent of chkdsk for ntfs3g?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !guideliens |  z00m
[22:37] <dante123> i have tried simdock, but still rough around the edges in terms of adding stuff etc.  I don't want to use an editor tyvm.
[22:37] <acr0nym> something similar to: sudo fdisk -l
[22:37] <Michelle5> got-milk4. i didnt see the other message sorry
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !guidelines | z00m
[22:37] <genii> geofft: No
[22:37] <cavalierski> Hi, all. After upgrading to Jaunty beta, the bootchart started to create tgz file as well as png in /var/log/bootchart. I'm wondering if where can I change the output file and the name of the file since I cannot find the config file...
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !jaunty |  cavalierski
[22:37] <bootninja> does anybody here have any experience with the STAC9205 intel sound headphone problem?
[22:37] <geofft> genii: sigh. So if Windows chkdsk hangs, can I assume I'm basically out of luck?
[22:37] <genii> geofft: However there is a utility which can forcibly mark the ntfs clean, even when it's not
[22:37] <aperson> anyone have an idea as to how I can get squid to handle feed:// links properly?
[22:38] <geofft> genii: I dunno if that's useful, I'm getting EIO on the wubi root partition
[22:38] <nadeem> hi
[22:38] <acr0nym> does someone know the terminal command to list memory partitions?
[22:38] <warn333> fdisk -l?
[22:38] <acr0nym> nope
[22:38] <genii> geofft: Yeah you need a real chkdsk for that
[22:38] <Phillipe> Does anyone can help me install Google Earth correctly?
[22:38] <acr0nym> tried that one : 0
[22:38] <warn333> run as root?
[22:38] <acr0nym> that one gives normal hd partitions
[22:38] <warn333> ah
[22:39] <aperson> df -h shows all partitons
[22:39] <acr0nym> thanks :)
[22:39] <acr0nym> that did the trick
[22:40] <got_milk4> Michelle5: That's okay :) - are you trying to use wired or wireless?
[22:40] <geofft> genii: well, grub can see the file ... as can Windows
[22:40] <warn333> anyone got any suggestions for dual monitor performance?
[22:40] <emek_> hi!
[22:40] <sebsebseb> emek_: hi
[22:41] <geofft> I guess I will just ask this guy to leave his Windows chkdsk running. Maybe chkdsk doesn't update the percentage while it scans a single 19-gigabit file
[22:41] <geofft> or should that be, "Hopefully"
[22:41] <Michelle5> got_milk4, wired
[22:41] <LjL> geofft: chkdsk's percentages are very jumpy anyway
[22:42] <Michelle5> got_milk4, when i boot the machine in recovery, it doesnt detect the net
[22:42] <Mike_lifeguard> geofft: I think the percentage is based on directory, not file... so I think scanning large files will make it seem to hang while the file is scanned
[22:42] <got_milk4> Michelle5: does it detect the net normally?
[22:42] <geofft> Mike_lifeguard: thanks
[22:42] <Michelle5> got_milk4, used too
[22:43] <Mike_lifeguard> geofft: although... how long are we talking? My 100GB drive took an hour to run 'chkdsk /f /r'
[22:43] <Michelle5> got_milk4, ive been using that computer allday without any issues.
[22:43] <scott_thomason> I'm used to Gentoo's emerge system. With that, I can tell what packages are not a dependency for anything else...
[22:43] <Michelle5> got_milk4, uptil i took up an update and rebooted and couldnt
[22:43] <got_milk4> Michelle5: do you know what update it was?
[22:43] <scott_thomason> ...it lets me see the "leaf nodes" of the installed package tree. How can I do this with Ubuntu?
[22:44] <Michelle5> postgresql
[22:44] <Michelle5> got_milk4, im booting the machine up again on recovery
[22:44] <YixilTesiphon> how do I find the exact url of a package if I need to downgrade?
[22:44] <warn333> any ideas on boosting dual screen performance?
[22:45] <got_milk4> Michelle5: i see :) - keep in mind that recovery mode does not automatically set up network connections
[22:45] <Michelle5> got_milk4, from the reovery menu im dropping into shell, there is no point going onto resume
[22:45] <YixilTesiphon> I need to go from alsa-base 1.0.18.dfsg-1ubuntu7 to 1ubuntu8
[22:45] <Michelle5> got_milk4, ok what does a girl do?
[22:46] <got_milk4> Michelle5: we can try manually configuring the network connection
[22:46] <Michelle5> got_milk4, ok
[22:46] <noodlesgc> YixilTesiphon packages can be found at packages.ubuntu.com
[22:47] <Skaperen> this help page only lists versions up to Hardy ... what to do for Intrepid and Jaunty? ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/
[22:47] <YixilTesiphon> noodlesgc: thanks
[22:47] <got_milk4> Michelle5: for this i'm going to use nano, you can use whatever text editor you like
[22:47] <geofft> Mike_lifeguard: wubi's partitionfile is 19 GB, didn't see how big the partition is...
[22:47] <Michelle5> i have no choice, pico is the only one i know
[22:47] <YixilTesiphon> is anyone willing to look through the packages I updated this morning and let me know which ones are likely to have participated in breaking my sound?
[22:47] <geofft> oh hey, it jumped to 46%. This might actually finish!
[22:48] <got_milk4> Michelle5: first, use sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces and enter your password
[22:48] <got_milk4> or in your case sudo pico :)
[22:48] <Mike_lifeguard> geofft: you're probably ok to leave it running then :)
[22:48] <Michelle5> ok
[22:48] <Skaperen> or ... does anyone how how to set up the driver for bcm4311 wireless in hp pavilion dv6000 ?
[22:49] <got_milk4> Michelle5: if the lines aren't already there, and i'm assuming your network is on eth0, add these lines:
[22:49] <got_milk4> auto eth0
[22:49] <got_milk4> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[22:49] <got_milk4> and save
[22:49] <scott_thomason> How do I tell what packages are dependencies for other packages?
[22:49] <got_milk4> Michelle5: let me know when you're ready to continue
[22:49] <YixilTesiphon> Skaperen: with broadcom you might need to use ndiswrapper
[22:50] <YixilTesiphon> and when I tried that last it turned off the router every time I tried to connect
[22:50] <Michelle5> done
[22:50] <benitron> Does anyone here know what packages are needed to boot from USB drive?
[22:51] <Skaperen> YixilTesiphon: whatever ... I will if I need to ... but I need documentation on what the steps are for Intrepid (I'm just doing dry-run testing with it) and Jaunty (which I will do fresh install when it comes out)
[22:51] <Michelle5> got_milk4, ok
[22:51] <got_milk4> Michelle5: okay, now we can back out of the text editor and use sudo ifconfig eth0 up (remember to replace eth0 with your network interface)
[22:51] <Skaperen> YixilTesiphon: seems the community help is 1 or 2 versions old
[22:51] <deany> benitron, what do you need
[22:51] <got_milk4> Michelle5: if all goes well you should be back on the network
[22:51] <geofft> benitron: my current install runs off a thumbdrive. I didn't do anything special to it
[22:51] <Skaperen> YixilTesiphon: or is focuses only on the LTS release
[22:51] <Michelle5> k
[22:52] <angelo3> Ciao a tutti!!!
[22:52] <gidna> Hi
[22:53] <Michelle5> ok
[22:53] <gidna> How can I show numbered lines?
[22:53] <YixilTesiphon> Is there no way just to downgrade to the last set of packages?
[22:53] <cav> does anyone know how to change the  bootchart setting such as output file name?
[22:53] <YixilTesiphon> or, what am I doing wrong in: sudo apt-get remove alsa-base_1.0.18.dfsg-1ubuntu8
[22:53] <Michelle5> got_milk4, so i do sudo apt-get remove postgresql-8.3
[22:53] <got_milk4> Michelle5: does networking function now?
[22:53] <Michelle5> seems too
[22:53] <YixilTesiphon> that it says it can't find that package, when synaptic says it is installed?
[22:54] <Skaperen> YixilTesiphon: so do you know a document that tells what to do to get the wireless driver working, either way?
[22:54] <got_milk4> Michelle5: i'm not familiar with the postgresql packages but you can try that, if that doesn't work try sudo apt-get remove postgresql
[22:54] <YixilTesiphon> Skaperen: no, beyond just googling - this was a long time ago on a different computer so I don't know
[22:54] <Michelle5> just got an error again
[22:55] <got_milk4> what does it say?
[22:55] <Skaperen> YixilTesiphon: googling has only gotten the page I mentioned, which is only goot up to Hardy
[22:55] <YixilTesiphon> Skaperen: try the forums?
[22:55] <benitron> I instaledl ubuntu server on to a USB drive but when I try to boot from it I get a "missing os" message. I have already found that the server edition does not have support for this and I wont to know how to add it.
[22:55] <Skaperen> YixilTesiphon: I guess that's next
[22:56] <sebsebseb> benitron: well I guess you can't really then,  if it  can't be installed from usb
[22:56] <sebsebseb> benitron: you can install the desktop version onto usb, and then install that, and get server stuff, anyway
[22:56] <Skaperen> YixilTesiphon: thanks for answering
[22:57] <YixilTesiphon> crap. Once a new version of alsa-base is released, does the old one disappear?
[22:57] <Michelle5> .: Cant open /usr/share/postgresql-common/miaintscripts-funchtions dkpg: error processing postgresql-8.3 (--remove) subprocess pre-removal script return error exit status 2
[22:57] <sebsebseb> YixilTesiphon: no
[22:57] <geofft> benitron: where did you find that? my install is basically server + xorg. (I used the alternate installer)
[22:57] <loquitus_of_borg> Hi... am I using the wrong version of Ubuntu? I have 8 GB memory but my machine is only recognizing under 4 GB of it...
[22:57] <YixilTesiphon> I have no idea why upgrading broke my sound, but it did
[22:57] <sebsebseb> YixilTesiphon: and Ubuntu only does seciryt updates for stuff like that anyway
[22:57] <geofft> by the way, thanks all, chkdsk eventually finished and now ubuntu boots. :)
[22:57] <loquitus_of_borg> My processor is an Intel Core4Duo
[22:57] <Skaperen> YixilTesiphon: maybe they included a script in Jaunty to automatically get the right driver, or at least to install it after I get it (after telling me which one to get) ... one can only hope
[22:57] <sebsebseb> YixilTesiphon: you would have to install later version yourself, or wait for another Ubuntu version
[22:57] <loquitus_of_borg> oops
[22:57] <loquitus_of_borg> Core2Quad
[22:57] <YixilTesiphon> sebsebseb: i am on jaunty
[22:57] <sebsebseb> !jaunty |  Skaperen
[22:57] <sebsebseb> YixilTesiphon: see above
[22:58] <YixilTesiphon> I installed a ton of upgrades this morning and my sound proceeded to break
[22:58] <sebsebseb> YixilTesiphon: ok and your also in the wrong  channel
[22:58] <YixilTesiphon> so I'm trying to downgrade all of them, but am running into logistical problems of where to get the previous packages
[22:58] <got_milk4> Michelle5: you said that file was there, correct?
[22:58] <geofft> benitron: do you have grub installed on /dev/sda (or whatever), or just /dev/sda1 (or whatever)?
[22:58] <tfb4rtNB> hi
[22:58] <Michelle5> error were encounted while processing : postgresql-8.3 E: sub-process /usr/bin/gpkg return error code (1)
[22:58] <YixilTesiphon> sebsebseb: figured this wasn't a jaunty issue in itself
[22:58] <sebsebseb> YixilTesiphon: it probably is
[22:58] <Michelle5> got_milk4, no, there is nothing in /etc/
[22:59] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: I'm not using Jaunty, yet ... I just installed Intrepid ... no wireless ... so they haven't automated it, at least for this machine ... no idea if things improve in Jaunty
[22:59] <geofft> benitron: I did have to fight with grub a bit. I just ran grub-install a few times from a live CD until it worked
[22:59] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  Skaperen
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: they haven't improved it heh,   yeah  the wireless manufactures that is
[22:59] <geofft> benitron: also I think the issue I ran into was that my GPT and MBR tables were not in sync, but that may not be an issue if you're not booting on a Mac
[22:59] <tfb4rtNB> Anyone has experience in intrepid with torrentflux b4rt?
[22:59] <got_milk4> Michelle5: can you sudo chmod +rw /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions
[23:00] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: I already went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/ ... but it's outdated ... what I said earlier
[23:00] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: I was looking for something newer ... I know which wireless I have
[23:01] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: the "improvement" I was hoping for was something in the install/admin tools that recognizes the device type and can tell me the driver to download ... and once I provide it, it can install it, all in GUI
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: it should be a last resort really, but you could try ndiswrapper and  do a windows driver,  also see the pm I sent you
[23:01] <Michelle5> can not access, the path i put, no such file or dir
[23:01] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: PM is not working in my IRC client, sorry
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: you probably won't get such a thing in 9.04
[23:01] <loquitus_of_borg> Which Ubuntu do I install to access more than 4 gb of memory?
[23:01] <YixilTesiphon> Skaperen: that certainly would be nice, but sadly does not exist in 9.04
[23:02] <YixilTesiphon> if only
[23:02] <benitron> yes but then it would take more space. is there some way I could install the necessary packages to support this to the installation I already have from the live cd or something like that?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: ok well I just told you about a distro, where your wireless will probably just work, in pm
[23:02] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: like I say, I can only hope for such an improvement ... not really expecting it
[23:02]  * G69 Good Night / Boa Noite.
[23:02] <aaronator> I get the following error when attempting to do a firmware upgrade on a smart card reader
[23:02] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: all PM's to me just go into a blackhole ... but I'm not debugging irssi today
[23:03] <aaronator> ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[23:03] <aaronator> ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>'
[23:03] <aaronator> How can I fix the ini file
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: I don't think should mention other distros  when they have an advantage for something Ubuntu gets a problem with,  in the suppourt channel here
[23:03] <Michelle5> got_milk4, i can cd to postgresql-common and all i see is root-crt
[23:04] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: I'm not really wanting another distro, anyway, except maybe to extract a driver module from
[23:04] <got_milk4> Michelle5: i know this sounds a bit odd, but i've done something similar in the past, can you create a file named maintscripts-functions and try it again?
[23:04] <Michelle5> ok
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: Mandriva does wireless differnetly from  Ubuntu, so it seems a lot of cards will just work
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: and you can try  a windows driver with ndiswrapper
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: for the wireless
[23:05] <Michelle5> donje
[23:05] <loquitus_of_borg> anybody know why I can't see my 8 gb of memory on ubuntu?
[23:05] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: the instructions for Hardy give .exe files to download from HP ... are those windows drivers for ndiswrapper?
[23:05] <got_milk4> Michelle5: now if you try to remove again what happens?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: you need a .inf file for ndiswarpepr
[23:05] <macman_> guys
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: if you install that download on windos or maybe wine, you can get the .inf file
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: really you should try native first, but it seems you have, and didn't get that far
[23:06] <LiMaO> loquitus_of_borg: are you using the 64bit version?
[23:06] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: OK so those instructions are for something else ... are ndiswrapper instructions in that same help site section?
[23:06] <Double_Kill2> hey, anyone in here familiar with people that come in here regularly?
[23:06] <macman_> how can i sort some files and find the count of it
[23:06] <macman_> or something
[23:07] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: I hear that ndiswrapper+windows drivers = faster wireless
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: what type of card do you have?
[23:07] <loquitus_of_borg> LiMa0: I installed the x86 version, not the AMD64 version since I have an Intel Core2Quad....
[23:07] <linny> macman_: you question doesnt make sense pls explain
[23:07] <macman_> yea i just realized it dind't
[23:08] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: bcm4311 in HP pavilion dv6000 laptop
[23:08] <thht> loquitus_of_borg: install AMD64 version
[23:08] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: bcm4311 rev01 in HP pavilion dv6000 laptop
[23:08] <Michelle5> wierd
[23:08] <macman_> linny--- say i have 41 files in a folder .. i want to sort them alphabetically and then find out how big each files is .. is this an options ?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: hummm
[23:08] <loquitus_of_borg> thht: damn... so if I already installed it with 32 bit, can I install on top, or am I hosed?
[23:08] <macman_> i know du -sh finds how bigh they are
[23:08] <Double_Kill2> can anyone here help me register my nickname?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: got Windows?
[23:09] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: or as I said maybe you can do that .exe in Wine
[23:09] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: got to get the .inf file
[23:09] <LiMaO> loquitus_of_borg: you have to reinstall. core2quad = 64bit
[23:09] <loquitus_of_borg> As in is there any way to install the 64 bit version on top of the 32 bit version of Linux
[23:09] <thht> loquitus_of_borg: nuke it from orbit ... then install AMD64 version
[23:09] <linny> macman_: yes you should see linuxcommand.org it has a beginners tut on cli skills
[23:09] <Metal> back
[23:09] <loquitus_of_borg> LiMa0: "nuke it from orbit" ;)?
[23:09] <got_milk4> Michelle5: what happened?
[23:09] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: nope ... the original windows install was hosed to unrunnable ... recovery disks won't boot ... so I wiped it and put ubuntu 8.10 on ... plan to put 9.04 on later when it's out
[23:10] <Michelle5> got_milk4, net isnt working
[23:10] <eugman> Is there a silverlight(moonlight?) plugin available for ubuntu?
[23:10] <linny> macman_: http://www.linuxcommand.org/lts0060.php
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: I would suggest sorting yourself out with a Mandriva Live CD and trying that, because if your wireless works there, then yes  can get it working with  Ubuntu natively some how
[23:10] <thht> loquitus_of_borg: yes. you must not mix up 32-bit ubuntu with 64-bit ubuntu
[23:10] <Michelle5> I so apt-get remove package and its wanting to install something first
[23:11] <loquitus_of_borg> thht: so basically I am planning to keep the /home partition intact and wipe out the others with a fresh install... good plan?
[23:11] <got_milk4> Michelle5: I thought it was already working? Did the steps we took earlier work?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: and you can also try running that .exe you were on about in wine
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: and if it provides a .inf file :)
[23:11] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: I know it worked under windows ... the wireless should be fine ... just need to know the steps to pick the right driver and install it
[23:11] <Michelle5> it showed on the ifconfig.
[23:11] <thht> loquitus_of_borg: yeah thats fine .. should do the job
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: no just, because it works  under Windows, does not mean that it will work under Linux natively
[23:12] <Michelle5> yes i did
[23:12] <UKGent> Is there a Windows plugin for ubuntu?  ...   jk
[23:12] <macman_> thanks
[23:12] <j5098> i just tried to change hostname, but i get this in terminal a lot: sudo: unable to resolve host {myhostname}
[23:12] <loony> hello, do you know of a good computer ergonomics web site/IRC channel, I have eye problems and want optimal monitor settings, as well as a system config to minimize strain
[23:12] <vladanian> eugman: see here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mono-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[23:12] <loquitus_of_borg> thht: is there any way for me to get a list of all the packages I installed on this in a way I can "import" when I reinstall later with 64 bit?
[23:12] <thht> loquitus_of_borg: btw, you have version 8.10?
[23:12] <loquitus_of_borg> as in tell it to reinstall the same games I installed from synaptic
[23:12] <eseven73> !aptoncd | loquitus_of_borg
[23:12] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: find out which driver it is for Windows,  or you know that already?  that was the .exe you were on about?
[23:12] <loquitus_of_borg> thht: actually going with Jacky for now....
[23:12] <got_milk4> Michelle5: what comes out when you try ifconfig? what does it show as your IP address?
[23:12] <Michelle5> got_milk4, so you only way to get this working is on the net, and I cant get passed login either without a problem
[23:12] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: there are steps for that wireless chip/card for Hardy ... and a page for Feisty listed people having success ... presumably the same driver those use would work in Intrepid ... I just need the steps to follow
[23:12] <geofft> benitron: what will take more space?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: which steps?
[23:13] <scream> here is the startup config file stored if I want to stop a program from running on boot?
[23:13] <gkffcks> do the network if-up and if-down still get executed when I'm using network manager??
[23:13] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: the problem is so much documentation on the community help is so old, very little for Intrepid
[23:13] <Michelle5> got_milk4, i see no ip address its normaly 194.168.0.4
[23:13] <loquitus_of_borg> eseven73: I don't know if that will work... I am not planning to reinstall the same distribution... I am going from 32 to 64 bit
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: indeed
[23:13] <got_milk4> Michelle5: wait, you can't get past login?
[23:13] <geofft> benitron: If you get "Missing Operating System", that means your boot sector is empty. You can install grub there. You'll also need to fill in /boot with grub's stage 2, etc. files, but that's fairly small
[23:13] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: almost makes me want to run an older ubuntu
[23:13] <Michelle5> got, no
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: what steps are you after?
[23:14] <got_milk4> Michelle5: what happens that you can't get past login?
[23:14] <jdu> gkffcks, I believe, yes
[23:14] <geofft> benitron: you don't need to install the grub _package_ on this thumbdrive. You can boot a live CD and run install-grub with your thumbdrive as the target
[23:14] <eseven73> loquitus_of_borg, hmmm not too sure then, maybe try the forums if no one else answers
[23:14] <Michelle5> got_milk4, if i reboot the box as normal, i get to the gnome login, at this point my keyboard or mouse does not work
[23:14] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: the steps to select and install the driver ... list are shown for older ubuntus ... but instead for Intrepid
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: I gave you two good help suggestons, but you haven't done either yet
[23:14] <SRabbelier> meh, I'm on gutsy and the default svn version is 1.4.4 , is there any supported way of getting 1.5.x other than compiling from source?
[23:14] <thht> loquitus_of_borg: oh, i don't know that. maybe s. o. else does know?
[23:14] <Double_Kill2> should you have anti-virus/anti-spyware for linux?
[23:14] <scream> I mean, Tor is starting auto on boot, so there must be a file where it tells ubuntu to start this program?
[23:14] <Michelle5> mouse doesnt move, and any keys pressed does nothing
[23:14] <eseven73> !virus | Double_Kill2 (not really)
[23:14] <scream> I'm not sure where it is or what it is called.
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: suggestions that will get you in the right direction
[23:15] <ikus060> Is there any issue with fglrx driver in Jaunty, as it's not available using the 'Hardware Drivers' tool
[23:15] <allquixotic> Hello, it seems that Rhythmbox doesn't realize when i change my music library directory that i want it to stop keeping track of files in other directories... is there any way to completely purge Rhythmbox's database?
[23:15] <saywatmang> in windows I was able to be connected to both wired and wifi connections at the same time, and have servers listening and accepting connections on both interfaces, but i believe this is not possible on ubuntu right ?
[23:15] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: you mean using that other distro?  I assumed that is to test the hardware ... that's not the issue I have
[23:15] <Michelle5> if i put in a usb stick or usb hd this doesnt show up either..
[23:15] <Double_Kill2> thank you
[23:15] <jimisrvrox> is having issues trying to get his wmp54gs card to work. Installed ndiswrapper and the win driver and nothing is working. I think I might not have blacklisted the default driver. Help would be appreciated.
[23:16] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: will steps for Hardy work on Intrepid?  I'm guessing the answer will be "no idea"
[23:16] <got_milk4> Michelle5: unfortunately this problem seems to be more severe than i first thought. unfortunately i'm out of suggestions for you, maybe someone else can help you out?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: you may not even need a driver for  wireless in Mandriva, because it will just work.    that was the idea to test the Live CD to find out if it does, because if it works natively in Mandriva,  then  should be able to in Ubuntu.    the other idea was bugger native, and  if you can get a .inf for the windows driver, do it in ndiswraper
[23:16] <Michelle5> got_milk4, i cant just reinstall, before there is way to must on here, if i could see the usb drive in /media/ i could back stuff up
[23:16] <Michelle5> got_milk4, i hope someone could?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: the answer is, yes probably
[23:16] <got_milk4> Michelle5: i'm hoping, i have to leave for awhile, but if you're still here when i come back i can try my best to help some more
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Skaperen:  Hardy and Intrepid  are very similar,  except for stuff like xorg, which has nothing to do with wireless anyway
[23:17] <linny> anyone know of a multi threaded ftp client that has support for multiple servers maybe in tabs ?
[23:17] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: it's known to work in Feisty and Hardy on this exact laptop model with this exact wireless card ... so I'm assuming it will work in Linux once the right steps are done ... all I need is the right steps
[23:17] <scream> Is there a website I could find the answer on?
[23:17] <eseven73> linkd, maybe filezilla
[23:17] <eseven73> linny*
[23:17] <Huufarted> linny, Filezilla
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: the hardy steps will probably work, as I just said
[23:17] <Michelle5> well. im in the uk, so time wise it depends how long your gone.
[23:17] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: if someone knows that steps for Hardy will work on Intrepid, I'll try that
[23:17] <Double_Kill2> can anyone here help me register my nickname?
[23:17] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: OK ... on your say so of probability, that's good enough for me
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: do the hardy steps!
[23:17] <got_milk4> Michelle5: hopefully for only a half hour or so, shouldn't be much longer than that
[23:17] <got_milk4> i will be back shortly
[23:18] <Michelle5> i have this machine on, for skype and such, the other box thats broken now is what I run websites on
[23:18] <Michelle5> ok, illl be here
[23:18] <Mark_Jones> Hello guys, I just got done putting together my new PC and the only prob I have is that the built in LAN (realtek 8211CL) isnt working.Its on this ASUS M3N78 pro mobo. I tried looking for a linux driver but with no luck.Does anyone know if its supported?
[23:18] <Michelle5> thankyou :)
[23:18] <linny> eseven73:Huufarted: as far as i can see i can only be connected to one server at once in filezilla
[23:18] <j5098> in 8.10 i'm looking for System -> Administration -> Network, but i only have 'Network Tools'.  how can i get to that?
[23:18] <linny> eseven73:Huufarted: i suppose i could open multiple instaces
[23:19] <eseven73> yeah I was just going to suggest that
[23:19] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: thanks
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: it worked?
[23:19] <Mark_Jones> Im thinking of just throwing in one of my old 3Com cards if I have to, but would rather not if I dont have to.
[23:20] <Double_Kill2> Mark_Jones: I'm new to linux but i've heard of ndiswrapper, it makes non-supported cards work with a windows driver
[23:20] <eseven73> linny, if all else fails you could run it as different users, something like su linny2 and run filezilla in terminal, then su linny3, su linny4 etc, etc. :D
[23:20] <chordogg> is ndiswrapper only for wireless network cards?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> chordogg: yes only for wireless
[23:21] <mrpresident> chordogg, I think it works for ethernet as well
[23:21] <sebsebseb> chordogg: and Ethernet should just work
[23:21] <Mark_Jones> hmm never heard of it.
[23:21] <Double_Kill2> yeah as soon as you plug in a ethernet cable it should work no matter what
[23:21] <genii> ndiswrapper works for any ethernet adapter, not just wireless
[23:21] <mrpresident> sebastien, doesn't it support some broadcom cards?
[23:21] <scream> Where does ubuntu keep the startup file for starting of programs on boot?
[23:21] <eseven73> linny, but my second recommendation would only work I think if of course that user2, 3, 4 existed, and they had a /home
[23:22] <sebsebseb> mrpresident: Ndiswrapper gets the WIndows wireless drivers, working with Linux
[23:22] <linny> eseven73: yea you dont need to do that it will run more than once with the same user
[23:22] <eseven73> nice, better yet then :D
[23:22] <marianne> hmmm
[23:24] <jdu> scream, look into /etc/rc2.d
[23:24] <mrpresident> sebsebseb, thats right sorry bout that
[23:24] <sebsebseb> mrpresident: nevermind no problem
[23:24] <Matson> how do I re-run the locale selection that was done at startup?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> !locale
[23:24] <Matson> dpkg-reconfigure locales  doesn seem to do what I expected
[23:25] <Matson> thanks
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Matson: no problem, and  that was a good guess, didn't know that one existed
[23:25] <Mark_Jones> Is there a web page that has links to Ubuntu drivers?
[23:25] <Hartwell> close
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: drivers for what?
[23:25] <Mark_Jones> Ubuntu
[23:25] <jdu> scream, that directory contains all scripts that are started linux enters run level 2.  They are symbolic links to scripts in /etc/init.d
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: most hardware suppourt is built into the Linux kernel
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: for what device?
[23:26] <proq> when I boot ubuntu, it shows a solid black screen when gdm starts.  control-alt-F1 used to drop into a virtual terminal, but this doesn't work now. how do I get into a virtual terminal to fix the machine?
[23:26] <Mark_Jones> Ok I figured I just didnt know if there were 3rd party drivers
[23:26] <Mark_Jones> realtek 8211CL LAN
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: well the propritary graphics card drivers and such yeah
[23:26] <jdu> proq  try ctrl-alt-f1 more than once?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Mark_Jones: have a look to see what is available under    system >  administaration > hardware drivers
[23:26] <aaronator> what is the error in this code?
[23:26] <aaronator> ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[23:26] <aaronator> ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1">'
[23:27] <proq> jdu: yes, I did
[23:27] <Mark_Jones> yeah its just the video card driver listed
[23:27] <Mark_Jones> I think Ill just slap an old 3com in it
[23:28] <Double_Kill2> hey is anyone in here good with terminal?
[23:28] <jdu> proq,  I have found that in recent versions of ubuntu I always have to hit it twice.  Is there ever anything on the screen?
[23:28] <xray7224> Double_Kill2, im ok
[23:28] <proq> jdu: nope, just solid black
[23:28] <linny> Double_Kill2: dont ask to ask
[23:29] <proq> well I was able to remove gdm from rescue mode
[23:29] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: thanks (again, just had a phone call that I had to take ... not sure any more came my way)
[23:29] <Skaperen> sebsebseb: will do hardy steps tonight
[23:29] <jdu> proq,  can you login without seeing anything?
[23:29] <xray7224> hey sebsebseb
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Skaperen: ok
[23:30] <SliderMan> !iso
[23:30] <proq> jdu: not really
[23:30] <sebsebseb> xray7224: I think there may be a guy here that you can help,   Mark_Jones
[23:30] <jdu> proq,  understandable.  It may be that you can fix the problem by remotely logging in.
[23:30] <Guest70236> how do i get ubuntu to show up on the windows network
[23:30] <Waouh>  Q
[23:30] <aaronator> what is the error in this code?
[23:30] <aaronator>  ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[23:30] <aaronator>  ./fwupdate.ini: line 1: `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1">'
[23:31] <usser> Harpoon_, sudo apt-get install samba
[23:31] <proq> jdu: ok, it starts up ok without gdm now
[23:32] <jdu> proq,  I have often had X not work but the virtual terminal almost always function unless the monitor is out.
[23:32] <jdu> proq, so you can login visually?
[23:32] <proq> jdu: yeah, without gdm I am back to text login
[23:33] <ademar> hola, soy nuevo aquí
[23:33] <proq> jdu: I'm guessing virtual terminal not working is something to do with this odd aluminum apple keyboard
[23:33] <Denise> anybody knows hoe to set up a printer on a windows network?
[23:33] <Denise> I cant find the way
[23:33] <Cips> Hello
[23:33] <loquitus_of_borg> So when you are running 64 bit Ubuntu, do you also need to have 64 bit versions of all your applications, games, etc? I noticed that VMware has both 64 bit and 32 bit releases... so I am wondering if the same is true for things like games like say Doom or Quake?
[23:33] <taylor_> Hello Everyone, I'm trying to mount an initrd image on Ubuntu as a 'filesystem' any ideas?
[23:34] <jdu> proq,  probably the next step is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change your graphics drivers.  The vt isn't working?
[23:34] <Harpoon_> usser: what do i do after that?
[23:34] <usser> Harpoon_, nothing, it should show up in your windows network
[23:34] <usser> !samba | Harpoon_
[23:34] <proq> loquitus_of_borg: you can have both 32-bit and 64-bit software running.  but a 32-bit app can't link to 64-bit libs, and vice-versa
[23:34] <Harpoon_> thanks
[23:34] <ademar> denise: I had the same problem with my printer, a laser one, canon lbp3200
[23:35] <bonzo1993> hi @ all, i'v installed xubuntu and i've got problems with the screen resolution, the maximum is 800x600 how can i change this, using windows higher resolution was possible
[23:35] <ramontayag> hey everyone. i have an old compaq presario 1200 that i slapped xubuntu on. when i get to the login screen, it's blank. knowing the screen is okay, i plugged in an external monitor then restarted the gdm (ctrl+alt+backspace) and the login screen showed fine. then, i took out the external monitor, and i also tried alt+ctrl+f1 and alt+ctrl+f7 and the screen showed. what should i go to make the...
[23:35] <ramontayag> ...screen automatically show?
[23:35] <proq> jdu: right
[23:35] <Denise> ok
[23:35] <Denise> so what u did
[23:35] <pirinto> I'm having some dependency errors while upgrading, I accidentally pressed CTRL+C while upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04, can I run the install procedure again or should I let it finish
[23:35] <loquitus_of_borg> proq: so how does 64 bit Ubuntu handle the fact that probably the vast majority of stuff out there is still 32 bit? I could install Quake 4 or Doom III and those could (for the sake of argument) be only 32 bit executables... does that mean I can't play them?
[23:35] <bonzo1993> hi @ all, i'v installed xubuntu and i've got problems with the screen resolution, the maximum is 800x600 how can i change this, using windows higher resolution was possible
[23:36] <pere> hello! Could somebody help me to jailbrake a Itouch from my ubuntu??
[23:36] <Cips> cc
[23:36] <pirinto> I found somebody who accidentally had the same problem here
[23:36] <pirinto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777423
[23:36] <proq> loquitus_of_borg: you just have to have all the library dependencies installed
[23:36] <jdu> jdu: does that mean the keyboard is not giving the correct input?
[23:36] <ademar> I asked a friend. It's very difficult for me to work in a terminal.
[23:36] <ramontayag> pere: i'm not sure that's possible... get a mac or windows
[23:36] <pirinto> the advice he got was to run: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[23:36] <Denise> ah
[23:37] <pirinto> Anyone here who can give me some advice?
[23:37] <Denise> ty it helped
[23:37] <ademar> Excuse me for my english. I'm from South America
[23:37] <pere> ohh... well is that I don't have it...
[23:37] <pere> I also try to re-install Windows and I can't
[23:37] <loquitus_of_borg> proq: does 64 bit ubuntu have the option to install 32 bit dependencies and/or is this the default?
[23:37] <ramontayag> pere: borrow one. you can find out more at theiphoneblog.com. checkout the forums
[23:37] <proq> loquitus_of_borg: for example, if you want to run a game "xglo" and it requires 32-bit version of libX11, you have to install that 32-bit library to your 32-bit folder in ubuntu.  this may have changed in ubuntu 9.04, dunno
[23:37] <ademar> I coudn't make it work by myself
[23:38] <pere> well thanks for the disposition stay in contact bye!
[23:38] <proq> loquitus_of_borg: you install them with a bit of effort
[23:38] <jdu> taylor_, I don't have much experience with it, but if it is just a filesystem image, you can loop mount it.
[23:38] <chordogg> sounds like 64 bit is quite a hassle...
[23:39] <ademar> I can mail you the procedure I got from internet if you want
[23:39] <proq> only for 32-bit only apps
[23:39] <taylor_> jdu: thats what I tried, a few different ways, but I can't seem to make it work
[23:39] <loquitus_of_borg> proq: oh ok... I was alarmed about this because VMWare comes in both incarnations and I was thinking originally that you need 64 bit versions of anything you want to run... furthermore, VMWare 64 bit refuses to run on a 32 bit OS so I wondered if the converse was true
[23:40] <jdu> taylor, hmm, I assume with the right filesystem type.  Is it compressed?
[23:40] <taylor_> I decompressed it
[23:41] <chordogg> would anyone recommend installing 64 bit ubuntu? is it worth it?
[23:41] <Shlomi> hi all, how do i copy folders with cp?
[23:41] <J-_> chordogg: If you have more than 4gb of ram, sure
[23:41] <mrwes> I have just discovered the beauty of scp from the terminal! man does that rock..heh
[23:41] <ramontayag> Shlomi: pass -R for recursive
[23:41] <ukine> im using amd64
[23:41] <chordogg> J-_: well i do not :-P
[23:41] <taylor_> As I recall, one of the problems with 64-bit Ubuntu is Adobe Flash, but they may have fixed that.
[23:42] <ukine> works great
[23:42] <Shlomi> thanks
[23:42] <jdu> taylor_, then you have tried everything I would do off the top of my head. :[
[23:42] <loquitus_of_borg> taylor_: one of the key things I use is a flight simulator called X-Plane... it would suck if I switched to 64 bit and that totally was not compatible.
[23:42] <Cappy|Here> morning folks, whats the name or the package that has all the build tools in it, is it "build-essential"  ??
[23:42] <ukine> taylor_, there is now an x64 native adobe flash player
[23:42] <Shlomi> i wonder why those stuff dosent show up the files copying, you can never know if it does or not
[23:42] <Shlomi> lol
[23:43] <taylor_> pl
[23:43] <taylor_> *ok
[23:43] <proq> previously to use flash on 64-bit ubuntu, you installed a 32-bit browser
[23:43] <taylor_> Ok, now I am updated :)
[23:43] <ramontayag> Cappy|Here: yes i beleive so
[23:43] <taylor_> Well, Im not that good at 'mount' too, so its possible I inputted the wrong command
[23:43] <ramontayag> Shlomi: pass v for versbose too. -Rv
[23:44] <Webu> Cappy|Here, that should be it, yep.
[23:44] <Damis> Hi, I am reading through a guide to C, I was just wondering if Ubuntu comes with a C compiler program?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> what???  Songbird isn't in the repo?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> !songbird
[23:44] <mrwes> !compile
[23:44] <sebsebseb> mrwes: yeah I know
[23:44] <eseven73> !info songbird
[23:44] <Damis> sebsebseb: You can download songbird from the website.
[23:44] <mrwes> sebsebseb, uh?
[23:45] <sebsebseb> ok songbird has to be compiled then,  lame it should be in the repo, and this is for someone else
[23:45] <azzy> sebsebseb there are packages for songbird
[23:45] <mrwes> sebsebseb, I think there is a .deb file
[23:45] <ramontayag> sebsebseb: i don't think it has to be compiled. i just downloaded, unarchived, and ran an executable.
[23:45] <Damis> Just download the tar file, and run the executable file or whatever it's called.
[23:46] <azzy> does anyone know something about the cpufreq-info tool plz ? got some questions about this
[23:46] <eseven73> sebsebseb, if everything that "should" be in repos were in the repos, Ubuntu would be just as bloated as Microsoft... :P
[23:46] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[23:46] <aboleth> you know
[23:46] <aboleth> i wish that you didnt use repos
[23:46] <sebsebseb> aboleth: what?
[23:46] <aboleth> and stuff was directly from the source
[23:46] <aboleth> like
[23:46] <aboleth> it looked at sourceforge
[23:47] <aboleth> and looked at what was available
[23:47] <aboleth> it would be better that way imo
[23:47] <aboleth> it wouldnt make it bloated
[23:47] <FoShizzle> if a normal download is 100kbps, if i encrypt it with ssh how much slower will it be?
[23:47] <aboleth> it would just give it more options
[23:47] <sebsebseb> !enter |  aboleth
[23:47] <aboleth> i hate that rule
[23:47] <Harpoon_> can someone point me to a guide on terminal commands
[23:47] <eseven73> yeah holy enter key batman, slow down there
[23:47] <aboleth> i type as i think
[23:47] <mrwes> sebsebseb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[23:48] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[23:48] <sebsebseb> aboleth: I think your trying to troll a bit here, and if you want a distro where you got to compile like everything,  try  Gentoo or some such
[23:48] <aboleth> look at that
[23:48] <aboleth> i''m not trolling
[23:48] <aboleth> i'm not talking about compiling
[23:48] <eseven73> this isnt MSN aboleth! don't use enter key  after every thought
[23:48] <aboleth> i wish it was :P
[23:48] <FoShizzle> aboleth: bitlbee ;)
[23:48] <Wavesonics> Hi, If i have a script in my /etc/init.d and I already disabled it using: update-rc.d -f svnserve remove
[23:48] <Wavesonics>  is it safe to just delete the script?
[23:48] <aboleth> bitlbee?
[23:49] <aboleth> what's that
[23:49] <Michelle5> /usr/bin/dbus-send --system --dest=org.freedesktop.packageKit --type=method_call /org/freedesktop/packagekit org.freedesktop.packagekit/statehaschanged string:
[23:49] <Michelle5> that an error:D
[23:49] <LiMaO> Harpoon_: http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
[23:49] <FoShizzle> aboleth: local server which connects to msn through an irc client, it was more meant as a joke :P
[23:49] <aboleth> i see
[23:49] <LiMaO> Harpoon_: if you want something more practicle, have a look @ http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[23:50] <Harpoon_> lol thanks
[23:50] <_Brun0_> Anyone please help me installing my snd-hda-intel sound card? This is where i'm at: http://pastebin.com/m17d24a6e
[23:50] <monra> Hello. Could someone say one of these 2 numbers please, 1 or 2?
[23:50] <iceroot> monra: 3
[23:50] <aboleth> anyway, what i meant about the package thing, it wouldn't look for source, but debian packages. it would actually in a way be more similar to windows than gentoo, but i think that would be good in this case.
[23:50] <hy180> monra is the best
[23:50] <aboleth> but it should have an option for source too
[23:51] <aboleth> i actually plan on making this program
[23:51] <monra> iceroot: Well.. I need a really random number. So I'm asking here, a random said by a human should be random. So could you help me?
[23:51] <LiMaO> random between 2 choices isn't random
[23:51] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: turn alsa on?
[23:51] <aboleth> i wonder why no one else seems to have had this idea
[23:51] <erUSUL> monra: pi
[23:51] <_Brun0_> FoShizzle, how?
[23:51] <monra> LiMaO: Well.. it is! 50% to be 1, 50% to be 2? Why not ? :P
[23:52] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: um try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[23:52] <aboleth> because i think its a great one. publishing software is too difficult at the moment, and playing catch up with the repos is just stupid.
[23:52] <iceroot> !ot | monra
[23:52] <aboleth> i mean
[23:52] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: or it is maybe called alsasound
[23:52] <stealth-> how can i tell what version im running through the cli?
[23:52] <cypher1> does anyone have a problem using pinnacle pctv hd pro stick pc tv tuner in ubunt ?
[23:52] <proq> bitlbee isn't a joke, it's a great tool
[23:52] <aboleth> yeah you can publish a single version of a program really easily, but to keep your users up to date is more hard than it needs to be.
[23:52] <iceroot> stealth-: lsb_release -a
[23:53] <stealth-> iceroot: thanks
[23:53] <joao> I need some bash scripting help please
[23:53] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas why I cant unlock the default keyring? I've tried no password, my password, and the root password, and none of those did the trick
[23:53] <joao> http://pastebin.com/d5edd16aa
[23:53] <aboleth> is there something fundamentally wrong with my thinking or something, because i don't see why no one thought of anything like this.
[23:53] <joao> that script works until the iptables lines
[23:53] <FoShizzle> proq: we were talking about to use enter as a punctuation on msn rather than on irc, that's the joke
[23:53] <proq> GodfatherofEire: the keyring is stored with the seahorse app
[23:54] <aboleth> any responses?\
[23:54] <proq> FoShizzle: ah
[23:54] <FoShizzle> proq: yeah, it's kind of lame but yeah :P
[23:54] <cypher1> joao: does it give any error ?
[23:54] <aboleth> does anyone think my idea for changing the package manager is good?
[23:54] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: wake up!
[23:55] <_Brun0_> FoShizzle, I did "/etc/init.d/alsa start":  * Setting up ALSA... * warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_state:1577: No soundcards found...'...
[23:55] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[23:55] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: that does not sound good..
[23:55] <aboleth> i really would like some help with this
[23:55] <aboleth> people just don't seem to be giving me any attention
[23:55] <FoShizzle> _Brun0_: sure it is the right driver?
[23:55] <aboleth> not just today
[23:56] <aboleth> i was trying to get help a few times on the irc channel a few times before
[23:56] <GodfatherofEire1> Never mind, it just didnt update to the current password
[23:56] <aboleth> i either talked to no one or someone who knew less than i did
[23:56] <keres> Can someone msg me the syntax for a forkbomb? i know this sounds like a very stupid question, but trust me.
[23:56] <aboleth> sometimes frustratingly so
[23:56] <proq> aboleth: some unix distros *do* just grab updates automatically from sources
[23:56] <aboleth> i bet that'll get answered before me
[23:56] <aboleth> proq: which ones?
[23:56] <proq> aboleth: openbsd
[23:57] <J-_> aboleth: Try installing xserver-xorg-input-joystick
[23:57] <proq> aboleth: gentoo as well
[23:57] <aboleth> proq: why is that not seen as superior?
[23:57] <aboleth> i mean
[23:57] <_Brun0_> FoShizzle, 1 sec leme double check.. According to lspci -v it is: Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel. I'll check in laptop manual.. =P 1 sec brb
[23:57] <aboleth> besides the source thing, but you don't need to do that
[23:57] <J-_> aboleth: Also check out jscalibrator to calibrate it
[23:57] <proq> aboleth: because building sources takes a lot of energy and that takes time and money
[23:57] <proq> energy as in kilowatts
[23:57] <GodfatherofEire1> How would I go about updating the default keyring password?
[23:57] <aboleth> J-_: one source said not to use it
[23:57] <aboleth> but i'll try
[23:58] <J-_> aboleth: hmm
[23:58] <Aizawa> Um, is there a way to get the absolutely latest version of jaunty? I.e, you don't need to update it after installation? Like a daily build or something
[23:58] <aboleth> are there any good websites or books on understanding package managers and ports?
[23:58] <J-_> aboleth: I use both in Jaunty(beta) and things seem to work well
[23:59] <aboleth> how exactly does openbsd's portage work?
[23:59] <aboleth> i mean
[23:59] <racecar56> i have some -old- maxtor diamondmax 21 that is in a usb hard drive enclosure, and i want to totally blank it without going out of ubuntu, is that possible?
[23:59] <aboleth> how does it get them directly from the source?
[23:59] <J-_> aboleth: this is a support channel for Ubuntu, check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:59] <aboleth> J-_: ok