[03:35] <uofm49426> ok i only had a ubuntu disk around but wanted xubuntu because i didnt want a heavy os its not impotent but i have no boot slash how can i fix this throw apt-get or do i need to do it manually in term
[03:35] <uofm49426> i apt-get installed xubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <uofm49426> but the boot splash is missing first time this ever happened
[03:49] <uofm49426> ok i only had a ubuntu disk around but wanted xubuntu because i didnt want a heavy os its not impotent but i have no boot slash how can i fix this throw apt-get or do i need to do it manually in term
[03:49] <uofm49426> but the boot splash is missing first time this ever happened
[03:49] <uofm49426> ok i only had a ubuntu disk around but wanted xubuntu because i didnt want a heavy os its not impotent but i have no boot slash how can i fix this throw apt-get or do i need to do it manually in term
[03:49] <uofm49426> i apt-get installed xubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <MTec007> in the edit connections dialog there is wired wireless mobile broadband vpn and dsl
[05:11] <MTec007> i cannot configure the vpn everything is disabled
[05:11] <MTec007> network connections, sorry
[05:14] <MTec007> my question is what would cause that to be disabled?
[05:50] <MTec007>  
[06:01] <rocko>  whats a good notify program to notify you with pointments with a popup window or something
[06:04] <MTec007> i need to find a GOOD anti virus scanner. i need to be able to scan files for viruses as needed (not as a service). needed to scan files for windows users
[06:09] <MTec007> can anyone recommend something?
[06:19] <genii> !info clamav
[06:33] <dsmith_> !info windows
[06:34] <dsmith_> heh, good
[06:34] <dsmith_> !info mono\
[06:47] <genii> !info mono-2-0-devel
[06:47] <genii> Hm
[11:28] <nikolam> why i can mount usb disk only once on xubuntu?
[11:29] <nikolam> when i try to mount again usb flash drive I previously mounted and used an then umounted ond removed, disk can not be used anymore
[11:29] <nikolam> xubuntu 8.04 64bit
[11:29] <nikolam> i plug usb flash drive to usb 2.0 hub
[11:30] <nikolam> flash drive name is still displayed in file manager/thunar and in pcmanfm
[11:31] <nikolam> even if device is not present
[11:31] <nikolam> and when is present it is not accessible anymore
[11:31] <nikolam> so flash drive works for me only on ONE insertion on every new restart..
[11:31] <nikolam> Amd690G/SB600 chipset
[11:32] <nikolam> Hardy/8.04 64-bit
[11:33] <knome> nikolam, do you unmount properly?
[11:33] <nikolam> i umount with that thing in system tray
[11:34] <nikolam> it is saying "safe to remove etc"
[11:34] <knome> nikolam, right
[11:34] <knome> nikolam, maybe file a bug if it happens in jaunty
[11:35] <knome> oh, you're in hardy
[11:35] <nikolam> ok, will restart and go to jaunty now to see if it happens there.
[11:35] <knome> testing in jaunty would be nice anyway :)
[11:35] <nikolam> yup hardy
[11:35] <mintymoses> nikolam: what happens when you manually mount / umount? Still fail?
[11:36] <nikolam> i think so.
[11:36] <nikolam> will need to restart machine to check that
[11:36] <nikolam> since it is saying everywhere that drive is still in even i pulled it out
[11:37] <mintymoses> what's the output of 'mount'?
[11:37] <nikolam> mintymoses, to insert flash and try to mount it?
[11:38] <mintymoses> no, if the drive is still showing up after it's been unmounted, open a terminal and run 'mount'
[11:38] <nikolam> mintymoses, media does not exist
[11:38] <nikolam> mintymoses, but i umount it properly
[11:39] <nikolam> first time
[11:39] <nikolam> it is giving a problem second time it is inserted
[11:39] <nikolam> on secound mount
[11:39] <nikolam> firt time it is plugged, it works ok and umounts
[11:39] <nikolam> i think
[11:40] <nikolam> since i need to use it today, i will need to restart machine to get it working
[11:40] <nikolam> cu guys
[11:46] <BigMoopies> I installed the guest additions to virtual box, and now Windows (the guest OS) is behind an hour.  The clock isn't set to be synced with the windows time server either.  Anyway to stop that  and leave it set to what I set it ?
[13:41] <djiin> How can I configure my laptop's volume controls to control xfce4 mixer?
[13:43] <TheSheep> select apropriate keyboard layout
[13:43] <TheSheep> that has media keys
[13:43] <TheSheep> in the keyboard settings
[13:43] <TheSheep> or in your X settings
[13:44] <djiin> I was able to use it until I upgraded to 4.6. I can control rhythmbox but not xfce4-mixer
[13:53] <djiin> TheSheep, I tried it but nothing
[13:54] <TheSheep> djiin: do you have appropriate keybindings in your keyboard settings?
[13:54] <TheSheep> djiin: to aumix
[13:56] <djiin> Well I'm using a Dell 6400/1505n and I just clicked on the inspiron 6xxx option in the xfce keyboard settings
[13:56] <djiin> but i don't know about aumix
[13:58] <TheSheep> you can add the bindings yourself
[13:59] <TheSheep> aumix -v+10 and aumix -v-10
[13:59] <TheSheep> for the up and down volume keys
[14:05] <_Pete_> hello, what to do when my taskbars or what they are called disappeared
[14:05] <_Pete_> the one that are in top/bottom
[14:05] <TheSheep> alt+f2 and type xfce4-panel
[14:05] <_Pete_> thanks'
[14:25] <djiin> TheSheep, thanks
[14:25] <djiin> TheSheep, got it working
[15:27] <jano_> How too restore the upper taskbar?
[15:28] <SiDi> Hi to you too.
[15:29] <TheSheep> right-click on the lower one, select 'cistomize pane;
[15:29] <TheSheep> l'
[15:29] <TheSheep> and add a new panel, put it where you want it and add everything you want on it
[15:34] <jano_> TheSheep, Volume control gone and will not apear then added too the bar (sound working)
[15:34] <TheSheep> jano_: drag-and-drop it from a list known bug
[15:36] <jano_> TheSheep, Ok i will make an new panel and delete the old one
[15:37] <TheSheep> jano_: why?\
[15:37] <TheSheep> jano_: just click on 'add item', and drag the volume control from the list into the panel
[15:38] <jano_> TheSheep, Can not drag the volume too the old panel
[15:39] <jano_> TheSheep, Now working...
[15:40] <jano_> OK
[16:08] <Ruadh> hi
[16:08] <SiDi> Hello
[16:08] <Ruadh> :)
[16:28] <Ruadh> more packages ... later
[16:38] <aaron_> hi, i was wondering if someone could recommend a wireless netcard for a new user of linux and xubuntu in particular
[16:39] <aaron_> my laptop is old and crappy (hp pavilion ze1201) so i'm worried about getting it to work on a. the laptop, and b. linux
[16:40] <SiDi> Well, i bought an hercule PCI card that worked out of the box on 7.10 - 8.04 - 8.10 for my desktop
[16:40] <SiDi> (and that never really worked under windows xp :p)
[16:40] <SiDi> and my laptop is running an intel wireless pro 3945 (if i remember well), it works very well
[16:41] <SiDi> See you later, people
[16:42] <aaron_> hmm okay
[16:42] <aaron_> i'll take a look at that, thank!
[17:10] <slow-motion> hi
[17:10] <charlie-tca> Hello
[17:43] <nineteenfingers> hey folks, got a quick question... i'm fixing my aunt's computer (some of you will know that already) but it's really a gutless machine - dire need of a RAM upgrade... if I was going to put 1GB in it, is there any difference (for example, in performance) between getting a single 1GB DIMM and getting 2 512MB DIMMs?
[17:48] <TheSheep> there is a difference in price -- two will be cheaper
[17:53] <nineteenfingers> there's no difference as far as linux performance is concerned then (or any OS for that matter, it'll be dual booting linux and XP)
[17:53] <nineteenfingers> ?
[17:56] <TheSheep> nineteenfingers: I think some kinds of memory have some 'channel' features that make two chips faster than one (because they spread the load), but that's not linux-specific, and I don't remember which chips have that
[19:18] <milan_> Hello guys. I installed xubuntu on my old PC I found in my wardrobe and it works great. But I have one problem. I can't get the sound card working. It's an ISA sound card from Creative Labs. I tried lshw and it's not there. I tried to insert it to a different slot, but I didn't help. Do you have any clue what's wrong?
[19:19] <TheSheep> isa cards can't be autodetected
[19:19] <charlie-tca> ISA is not supported out of box anymore. You have to manually add it and modprobe it
[19:19] <TheSheep> I have no idea how you would go about telling your computer that it's there, probably by messing with kernel modules
[19:20] <TheSheep> google might know, or guys over at #ubuntu and forums
[19:20] <milan_> Alright! Can you give me a link or something. I've never done this before.
[19:22] <TheSheep> me neither :(
[19:22] <charlie-tca> I haven't tried in three years
[19:24] <milan_> I think it's strange I can't see it with lshw.
[19:25] <TheSheep> there is no reliable way to detect isa cards
[19:25] <Slonkie> Right now i'm using windows on my media center and "server" i wanna change to (x)ubuntu, but is there any such thing as "windows shares" available between linux PCs?
[19:25] <TheSheep> !nfs
[19:26] <Slonkie> Thanks!
[19:26] <TheSheep> if it's media center, you might also check out mpd
[19:26] <TheSheep> !mpd
[19:26] <TheSheep> !info mpd
[19:27] <charlie-tca> milan_: maybe this will help, but you have to adopt it to your needs
[19:27] <charlie-tca> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/snd_sbc.4.html
[19:27] <Slonkie> There is no difference between ubuntu and xubuntu besides the interface, right?
[19:28] <charlie-tca> Minor differences; xubuntu uses quite a bit from ubuntu
[19:29] <Slonkie> woops wront button. So would i be able to install xubuntu on my server and turn off all visual effects and only get a text interface?
[19:29] <Slonkie> wrong*
[19:30] <TheSheep> just install ubuntu server then
[19:30] <Slonkie> That's what i tought
[19:30] <Slonkie> thought
[19:30] <TheSheep> if you install xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server, you will get exactly the same thing as installing xubuntu
[19:30] <TheSheep> modulo bootup splash
[19:31] <Slonkie> All right
[19:32] <zoredache> TheSheep: I thought the server version used a different kernel image by default (linux-image-server)  Installing xubuntu-desktop won't switch to the -generic kernel
[19:33] <TheSheep> zoredache: hmm... I'm not sure which kernel it uses
[19:33] <TheSheep> zoredache: you might be right
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Yes, server uses the non-generic kernel
[19:33] <TheSheep> but switching kernels is easy
[19:34] <charlie-tca> I couldn't get the server kernel to work for me, so I installed the server version, then added xubuntu-desktop, and boot the generic kernel
[19:34] <TheSheep> you could have just installed linux-image-generic
[19:34] <zoredache> I'll agree it is easy, but I am just being nitpickky.  You won't get exactly the same thing.  But it will probably be close enough that almost nobody will notice
[19:34] <charlie-tca> Now you tell me?
[19:34] <minazo> I want to install Xubuntu on this machine but I am a little concerned as I tried to install Debian Lenny and couldn't X to start. I kept getting "Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist...etc.." so it's my video card drivers I assume. Etch worked fine. Do you think this is an issue with the kernel version? Xubuntu has a newer kernel version I think, 2.6.27-7, right? I guess my question is I wonder if I'll have the same issue?
[19:35] <charlie-tca> minazo: which ati card is it?
[19:35] <minazo> I can  /sbin/lspci if that help
[19:35] <minazo> one sec
[19:36] <minazo> http://sial.org/pbot/35922 is the output of /sbin/lspci -v -s command
[19:41] <charlie-tca> I think you will have problems with that Rage 128 Pro. It is no longer supported by ATI
[19:46] <charlie-tca> You could download and try the desktop cd to see if it works.
[19:46] <charlie-tca> That lets you try without installing
[20:05] <minazo> charlie-tca: thanks for the tip. I appreciate it. And I think you're right as well. I've already downloaded an .iso image, specifically, "xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent" from http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/8.10/release/ Are you saying that iso image allows me to use it as a Live CD? I though it would just install Xubuntu automtically, though I guess I am wrong. Will it give me an option when I reboot to run it as a Live CD or wha
[20:05] <minazo> btw, thanks for the help.
[20:05] <zoredache> the desktop image is a livecd, that you can choose to install from
[20:07] <minazo> nice, i'll come back let you know if it works with my  Rage 128 Pro ati card then...thanks all...
[20:21] <theuser1> $ /home/theuser1/googleearth
[20:21] <theuser1> Warning: Unable to create prefs directory '/home/theuser1/.googleearth'. File exists.
[20:21] <theuser1> ./googleearth-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8: symbolBIO_test_flags, version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference
[20:23] <zoredache> theuser1: I had that problem too.  I don't remeber examctly what I did, but I remeber finding something on Google that told me to delete one of the files that was in the google earth directory so that it wouldn't try to use the crypto library that came with google earth
[20:24] <zoredache> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1058081
[20:24] <theuser1> zoredache:  which file
[20:25] <theuser1> ok
[20:25] <zoredache> search for 'google earth ubuntu relocation error' and you get lots of hits about the issue
[20:27] <tdapple> what do you use for photo management in xfce?
[20:28] <_Pete_> gimp
[20:28] <TheSheep> gimp is for editing
[20:28] <tdapple> not editing, but catalag...i.e f-spot, picasa, digicam?
[20:28] <_Pete_> apache
[20:29] <_Pete_> I only put all pics to my public_html
[20:30] <TheSheep> tdapple: thunar is sufficient for most simple needs, you can install any of the programs you mentioned though
[20:30] <_Pete_> TheSheep: you have an idea, what's wrong with those up icons
[20:30] <_Pete_> the clokc used to be most right
[20:30] <_Pete_> now they are packed all to left
[20:30] <_Pete_> and doind move for one
[20:31] <_Pete_> wont work
[20:31] <TheSheep> _Pete_: I can't understand what you are typing
[20:32] <TheSheep> _Pete_: mabe rephrase or provide some context?
[20:35] <_Pete_> TheSheep: http://debbox.homeunix.net/~petria/tmp/xfce4/problem1.jpg
[20:35] <_Pete_> like those abovebar icons are packed in left
[20:35] <TheSheep> _Pete_: what should I look at?
[20:36] <charlie-tca> _Pete_: single or dual monitors?
[20:36] <TheSheep> _Pete_: aaah
[20:36] <_Pete_> if I try to do "move" for clock
[20:36] <_Pete_> it never moves
[20:36] <_Pete_> charlie-tca: single at the momoent
[20:36] <TheSheep> _Pete_: put a separator before it, and select 'expand' in its options
[20:37] <_Pete_> TheSheep: how to do that?
[20:38] <TheSheep> _Pete_: right-click on the icon before the clock, select 'add item', select 'separator or spacing' from the list
[20:39] <_Pete_> right
[20:39] <_Pete_> you are most helpful person
[20:39] <TheSheep> sorry for being dense
[20:40] <_Pete_> dense?
[20:40] <TheSheep> slow thinking
[20:40] <_Pete_> yep
[20:40] <_Pete_> almost 1min
[20:41] <_Pete_> you could do better
[20:41] <TheSheep> maybe next time
[20:41] <_Pete_> let me think something extra wierd, even you can answer
[20:42] <minazo> charlie-tca: Wow, it didn't reject my video card "ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128". Debain Lenny did though...when i ran the Live CD...it also detected my old sound card which that has never happened on any distro...this is a silly question, but if it works via Live CD, a hard drive install should work as well, right? I mean, of course it would....
[20:42] <_Pete_> but cant do, since so far everything is working
[20:42] <charlie-tca> Should work, no guarantee though
[20:42] <_Pete_> which is big surpirse since this is 9.04 beta
[20:42] <minazo> I hear ya...
[20:43] <minazo> heh, Live CD is faster than my CentOS 5.2 hard drive install...gotta love that...thanks again...
[20:44] <charlie-tca> :-)
[20:44] <_Pete_> charlie-tca: why did you ask?
[20:44] <charlie-tca> because I seen that icon bunch in dual monitors
[20:44] <_Pete_> right
[20:45] <charlie-tca> X gets confused sometimes, and does that
[20:45] <_Pete_> I think it's not X
[20:45] <_Pete_> but xfce
[20:45] <charlie-tca> Bug reports show X
[20:45] <charlie-tca> Xorg,
[20:45] <_Pete_> really
[20:46] <charlie-tca> Xorg.specific.video.card
[20:46] <_Pete_> how con X decide icons for windowmanager
[20:46] <charlie-tca> I'm just a user! I don't have answers...
[20:47]  * charlie-tca liked it as "just a user"
[20:47] <charlie-tca> and TheSheep is better at answering things than me
[20:48] <_Pete_> TheSheep: you only use/give support, or dev yourself?
[20:49] <TheSheep> for xubuntu just support
[20:49] <_Pete_> I might be intrested to dev something
[20:50] <TheSheep> sure, lots of work, easy tasks too, see the webpage
[20:50] <_Pete_> altough hate glib c-objects
[20:52] <_Pete_> currently only have: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/960/540
[20:55] <TheSheep> you can also join #xubuntu-offtopic and #xubuntu-devel for chats with the devs
[20:55] <TheSheep> they are a friendly, even if very busy, bunch
[20:56] <_Pete_> ok thanks
[20:58] <_Pete_> any rumours for N810 + next ?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> _Pete_: like 9.04 or 9.10?
[21:00] <_Pete_> charlie-tca: ?
 any rumours for N810 + next ?
[21:01] <_Pete_> yes
[21:01] <_Pete_> you have any?
[21:01] <charlie-tca> 9.04 will be out April 23, with Xfce 4.6; 9.10 will be Karmic Koala, and is just getting started
[21:02] <charlie-tca> and 10.04 will be an LTS version to replace 8.04
[21:02] <SiDi> and 10.10 will be in october 2010
[21:02] <_Pete_> right
[21:02] <SiDi> charlie-tca: wasn't karmic meant to be the LTS ?
[21:02] <_Pete_> but I meant for successor for N810
[21:03] <charlie-tca> No, LTS is every two years.
[21:03] <Slonkie> What is LTS an shorting for?
[21:03] <charlie-tca> Long Term Support
[21:03] <Slonkie> Thanks
[21:04] <charlie-tca> Standard support cycle is 18 months, LTS is 3 years for home user/5 years for server
[21:20] <Slonkie> hmm i tried to load the xubuntu CD on my laptop it get's till the xubuntu "Load" screen where you see the blue bar going across the screen, then it goes black screen and have a blinking "underscore" - Anybody know what this may be?
[21:21] <TheSheep> it's called 'cursor'
[21:21] <TheSheep> did you check it for defects?
[21:22] <Slonkie> I used the same CD to install on the computer i'm right now on
[21:22] <Slonkie> but i guess i can check it
[21:24] <cjones> i have lost all the icons on my desktop could someone help me get them back i am also missing a menu on my top panel
[21:25] <Neo_The_User> cjones: how did you manage to do that?
[21:25] <cjones> it just went away as i went to click on one of my icons
[21:26] <Neo_The_User> change the appearance icon theme then change it back
[21:26] <Neo_The_User> usually just messing with stuff knocks it back into place
[21:27] <cjones> ok so what would be the best way to do that i have lost the menu that gives me access to that
[21:27] <Slonkie> so my CD is not the problem, TheSheep.
[21:27] <zoredache> cjones: try presssing 'alt-f2' and then running 'xfdesktop'
[21:28] <zoredache> or simply logout, (don't save your session) and login again
[21:28] <cjones> cannot run display should i try with erm?
[21:28] <cjones> oh its been a problem for a few days now ureboots and logouts dont help
[21:28] <zoredache> what?
[21:29] <zoredache> what do you mean you cannot run display?
[21:29] <cjones> it says can not run display when i type that in the ctr+f2
[21:29] <zoredache> alt-f2, not control
[21:32] <cjones> ok so that brings back my icons back ground and ability to right click
[21:32] <cjones> let me check a few things to try and get my menus back
[21:32] <cjones> how do  i make that run at startup ?
[21:33] <zoredache> it should be running at startup, if it isn't that may mean you have a broken cached session.
[21:34] <zoredache> you might want to try deleting everything in ~/.cache/session/ and then logout/login
[21:34] <cjones> let me try that
[21:34] <Neo_The_User> restart xfce4-panel
[21:35] <Neo_The_User> control alt f2 sudo killall xfce4-panel then the command to turn it back on.... :/
[21:36] <cjones> that didnt bring it back
[21:36] <cjones> but
[21:37] <cjones> if i go to apps settings main menu it shows that its there
[21:38] <cjones> what i lost was the system menu
[21:43] <Slonkie> Is it possible to remove all visual from xubuntu and make it only text based?
[21:43] <cjones> yes
[21:43] <Slonkie> Do you know how?
[21:43] <cjones> what for
[21:44] <Slonkie> i don't want the visual look.
[21:44] <cjones> are you looking for a server?
[21:45] <zoredache> Slonkie: can you be more specific?  Are you saying you don't want a gui at all and want to do everything at console?
[21:46] <Slonkie> yes zoredache, i was going to use ubuntu-server, but i chouldn't load it, nor chould i load xubuntu install, but i was able to run the xubuntu live cd, and now i'm installing xubuntu on my server, so i just wanna remove all the gui as a server
[21:47] <zoredache> if you don't care about removing the extra packages, then all you would need to do is simply disable gdm
[21:48] <Slonkie> where do i disable gdm?
[21:48] <zoredache> one way to do that is to do a 'sudo update-rc.d gdm remove'
[21:48] <Slonkie> Thanks
[21:57] <cjones> this might seam extream but could i just reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[22:02] <zoredache> before you do that you could simply logout, login at a termina. and rename or remove your ~/.config and ~/.cache directories
[22:06] <TheSheep> or create new user
[22:13] <owen1> i try to upgrade my 7.10 to 8.04. sudo aptitude safe-upgrade doesn't upgrade anything but from 'system->update manager' i see 'upgrade' icon. why?
[22:30] <rocko> what is the best n64 emulator out there ?
[23:05] <NavadeHo> which one is less harmfull to make Logical: swap, root or home?
[23:05] <NavadeHo> (installation question)
[23:06] <genii> swap
[23:06] <zoredache> swap or home should be fine...  I may be wrong, but you may need root (or just /boot) as a primary
[23:07] <NavadeHo> k
[23:07] <NavadeHo> I'll take swap
[23:07] <NavadeHo> ;p
[23:07] <genii> swap fails.. system doesn't use it and you can make another one elsewhere... root fails, no boot. home fails, user data gone and no login.
[23:08] <zoredache> create a partition for /boot, and a second for lvm, then you can easily change your partitions later...
[23:09] <NavadeHo> er...
[23:09] <zoredache> or not... it is up to you
[23:09] <zoredache> lvm lets you do some neat stuff like snapshots, and so on
[23:09] <NavadeHo> so, swap = logical, root = primary, home = primary, /boot is ??? and lvm = ???
[23:10] <zoredache> no, /boot=primary, lvm=primary, and everything else is within lvm
[23:11] <NavadeHo> ow, so.. no root and home or swap, but only boot and lvm?
[23:11] <zoredache> you may want to ignore me... I am making suggestions that may be needlessly complex for a desktop system
[23:11] <zoredache> well you would have the root and home filesystem,s but they would exist as a logical volume on the lvm, instead of as actual partitions
[23:11] <Kangarooo> Gigolo is not mounting NTFS hard drives on clean just installed Xubuntu 9.04
[23:12] <NavadeHo> ow
[23:12] <NavadeHo> well, whatever...
[23:12] <Kangarooo> 2 weeks ago i tryd Gigolo on 8.10 and didnt work also
[23:12] <Kangarooo> where to put bugs like this?
[23:13] <knome> Kangarooo, launchpad
[23:13] <zoredache> !bugs
[23:17] <UKGent> Hi everyone - got my 64 bit Xubuntu running really well now - had some problems with the NVidia Card but no change there - I upgraded the memory on this laptop, forgetting that it would probably upset the 64Mg Video Card .  Gave up trying to get XP to run on this configuration but we seem to be doing fine with Xubuntu.
[23:19] <UKGent> I ran a Mandlebrot Fractal Application and could not believe how fast it flew through the Mandlebrot Set with real time update of the Julia Sets - brilliant
[23:21] <UKGent> Had trouble with streaming Video - kept crashing , although not the entire system , which happened under Windows (blue screen of death). Synaptic seemed to pick up the required Nvidia upgrades and all now seems to be well... touch wood
[23:30] <mrpresident> is there a plugin for thunar like in nautilus for looking for samba shares
[23:30] <zoredache> mrpresident: not yet
[23:31] <zoredache> you can look at pyneighborhood or fusesmb
[23:31] <mrpresident> zoredache, yeah I have pyneighborhood, I just trying to trim some things
[23:36] <minazo> The old "ATI Technologies Inc Rage video card" works on Xubuntu but not on Debian Lenny...strange...anyways, I wanted to ask one more question and I can read docs for the rest...it's about Xfce. Can I get rid of the bottom panel and drag and drop the top panel down like in Gnome? And can I add more than *two* workspaces for the each pager? I figured I'd ask before I tried it and realized that Xfce doesn't let me do it...
[23:37] <minazo> I know, newbie question...sorry....
[23:37] <mrpresident> minazo, yeah if you go to settings manager and click panels you can remove the bottom panel and move the other panel to the bottom
[23:38] <minazo> ok, let me check that out...thanks, i appreciate it.
[23:46] <minazo> mrpresident: Nice, got rid of the bottom and replaced it with the top. Is the pager the same as a "workspace" in gnome? I see under the Settings Manager there is something called Workspaces and Margins but that's not the same is it? ...this comes with Perl 5.10 also..nice. :)
[23:51] <mrpresident> minazo, yeah Im not sure how to get more than 2 though workspaces that is
[23:54] <minazo> mrpresident: Yeah, I know. No big deal. I usually kept anywhere from 5-6 but I don't care, this is much better than what I've had on this machine (CentOS)...I like Xubuntu. If I figure out a way to do more than 2 I'll let the channel know. Thanks again.
[23:55] <mrpresident> minazo, cheers