[00:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:01] <genii> dinner is just called here, sorta AFK while eating
[00:01] <wirechief> bye genii
[00:02] <wirechief> well i gotta go make a casper-cow
[00:04] <lun4tic> how can i change the menu which the "live stick" is showing?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> lun4tic: which menu do you mean?
[00:06] <lun4tic> the one with the language selection
[00:07] <Aizawa> Is there a way to install kde 4.3? I've been looking for some time now.. SVN or something, I dunno
[00:07] <drbobb> hey, it's highly cool that someone's making a kde3.5 remix of jaunty
[00:08] <lun4tic> no matter i guess
[00:09] <lun4tic> more important is changing the open textmode terminals to zero
[00:09] <lun4tic> and removing the eject disk from the reboot/shutdown
[00:10] <lun4tic> i guess the open terminals are because jaunty is still beta and are open for bugtracking or sth
[00:10] <drbobb> er, what about the terminals
[00:11] <lun4tic> if i shutdown kubuntu live there are some terminals open
[00:11] <drbobb> are u talking about virtual consoles?
[00:11] <lun4tic> and i am promted if they should be closed
[00:11] <lun4tic> no
[00:11] <lun4tic> textmode logins
[00:11] <lun4tic> tty something
[00:11] <drbobb> logins on vc's then
[00:11] <lun4tic> kdm promts that they are still open
[00:12] <drbobb> ok i get it
[00:13] <drbobb> anyway i'd be interested in hearing about the experience from anyone who tried the kde3 jaunty remix
[00:14] <drbobb> cause i'd really like to move ahead from hardy but i can't stomach kde4
[00:16] <hallowname> drbobb: kde4 is the greatest thing ever. trunk anyway. dunno bout ur debs. kde3 is the same old kde3 :)
[00:16] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody knows if it's possible to use Xinerama and XComposite together, so that kwin effects in kde4 work?
[00:17] <drbobb> hallowname: ok, and that's exactly what i want it to be for the time being
[00:18] <drbobb> my question is how well is it integrated into jaunty
[00:20] <rysiek|pl> drbobb: officially - not at all
[00:20] <rysiek|pl> drbobb: Kubuntu moved to kde4 with 8.10
[00:20] <genii> drbobb: Why not just download and install the iso onto a test partition? http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/  I think is where the kde3 8.10 and 9.04 are
[00:20] <drbobb> rysiek|pl: i'm talking about the most recent announcement on kubuntu.org
[00:21] <rysiek|pl> drbobb: oh, I missed that, hold on a sec ;)
[00:24] <genii> They are hackable but problemmatic is what the current dev working on it tells me
[00:24] <genii> oops wrong channel
[00:26] <rysiek|pl> drbobb: very interesting
[00:26] <rysiek|pl> drbobb: I think you will have to test it for yourself
[00:27] <drbobb> i'd call it great news provided it has no serious regressions wrt. hardy
[00:29] <lun4tic> kde4 without effects doesn't ... "work"
[00:29] <lun4tic> for me at least :D
[00:29] <lun4tic> if you want absolutely no effects, don't usw kde4 :D
[00:30] <lun4tic> the live cd of the beta still feels "incomplete"
[00:30] <lun4tic> or "not perfectly integrated"
[00:30] <lun4tic> but the installed kde4 is good
[00:30] <lun4tic> if you have 3d drivers running :)
[00:31] <lun4tic> jaunty kubuntu live cd is awfully buggy i think
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> lun4tic: why its got some nice config apps
[00:31] <lun4tic> so after install don't forget to upgrade :D
[00:31] <lun4tic> talking about the live cd
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> kd4 + no effects = performance
[00:32] <lun4tic> the installed version after upgrading a whole lot of bugs are fixed
[00:32] <lun4tic> not really
[00:32] <lun4tic> kde never was about performance :D
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> sure it is, the effects dont have to be calculated so it saves cpu time
[00:33] <lun4tic> it was about easy to use and fancy desktop :)
[00:33] <drbobb> my laptop can't do effects anyway, it has a sis graphics chip
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> lun4tic: go say that in n#kde, see how long you can last
[00:33] <lun4tic> :)
[00:33] <lun4tic> but it's actually true in my opinion :)
[00:34] <drbobb> and that's just one of the reasons why i want to keep kde3 on it for the near future
[00:34] <lun4tic> there are versions that are more performant than others
[00:34] <showers> How can I log on as root to get my admin privileges back?
[00:34] <lun4tic> but among the desktops i wouldn't say kde has come up with extraordanary performance
[00:35] <lun4tic> showers: sudo doesn't work?
[00:35] <dwidmann> :\ launchpad doesn't wanna load
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> kde is about performance too, although it is leaning towards gloss, any DE / WM is as glossy as yu like it
[00:35] <lun4tic> yeag
[00:35] <lun4tic> yeah
[00:35] <showers> lun4tic: not without a admin password
[00:35] <lun4tic> but kde doesn't need a lot of work for gloss :D
[00:36] <lun4tic> so it's somehow "gloss for the lazy people" ;)
[00:36] <lun4tic> normally you gotta give ur USER password
[00:36] <lun4tic> for sudo
[00:36] <lun4tic> at least by default
[00:36] <lun4tic> dunno what you changed
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> showers: if you run groups you will see which groups the user is a member of
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> showers: as long as it is in the admin group it can use sudo
[00:38] <lun4tic> so if you wanna be root in ubuntu
[00:38] <lun4tic> usw "sudo su"
[00:38] <showers> that's exactly the message i get 'not part of sudo users' or something close to that
[00:38] <lun4tic> and give your user password
[00:38] <lun4tic> hm..
[00:38] <showers> Tried sudo su
[00:39] <showers> i think i have to get in from the recovery mode maybe?
[00:39] <lun4tic> dud you delete the user that was first created with the installation?
[00:39] <lun4tic> did*
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> showers: use   sudo -i
[00:39] <lun4tic> cause new users are not in the admin group by default
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> showers: sudo su is incorrect and doesnt configure the environment correctly
[00:39] <showers> no, but i took away his admin and gave it to someone else
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> showers: yu can have multiple admin users
[00:40] <lun4tic> then logon as someone else and give admin rights back :D
[00:40] <showers> lemme try sudo -i
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> showers: if you have no other admin users you will need to log on to recovery root console and modify the user groupings
[00:41] <showers> it returns '
[00:41] <showers> not in sudoers file
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> showers: then reboot, press esc to show grub and select recovery mode then choose root console
[00:42] <showers> ActionParsnip: that's what i thought, but how exactly
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> showers: then you need to add a user to the admin group
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> !sudo
[00:47] <showers> ActionParsnip: Yes, i need to log on to recovery root console.
[00:48] <showers> then add a new user with admin privs. but how to do that?
[00:48] <showers> I can get into recovery no problem
[00:48] <showers> it's just the magic words once there...
[00:49] <Pollywog> I have kubuntu (Jaunty) installed but KDE does not start up, only Gnome works...   How do I get the remix version of kubuntu installed without doing a complete install?  Can I just modify apt sources to install the remix version of KDE?
[00:49] <Dragnslcr> showers- probably want adduser
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> showers: adduser <new user>
[00:49] <Pollywog> It would just be a hassle to do a total reinstall
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> sudo adduser <username> admin
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: have you tried renaming ~/.de
[00:50] <showers> Yeah? okay, like 'adduser joe admin'
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: and rebooting
[00:50] <Pollywog> ActionParsnip: yes I did that
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> showers: looks good
[00:51] <Pollywog> I am sure that for some reason, KDE 4.2 will not run on this computer, but KDE 3.5 did
[00:51] <showers> 'adduser joe admin' at the command prompt in recovery mode?
[00:51] <Pollywog> so I want to try the new remix version
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> showers: sounds good
[00:51]  * kline wel hi
[00:51] <showers> Believe i've got it thanks for the info and patience.
[00:52] <Pollywog> what is the bot's name?
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> !bot | Pollywog
[00:52] <Pollywog> the channel bot
[00:52] <Pollywog> ty
[00:52] <kline> hehe
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: try booting to kde, then boot to gnome and read system logs
[00:52] <kline> :))
[00:53] <kline> nice
[00:53] <kline> bye bye all
[00:54] <Pollywog> I suppose I could start it in gnome and look for logs of the previous boot attempt... I assumed the successful boot would overwrite the failed kde boot
[00:54] <Pollywog> thanks for the tip
[00:55] <cimminodomenico> hi
[00:55] <Pollywog> ActionParsnip: I had the same problem in a virtualbox installation of Jaunty which was solved by a clean install rather than an upgrade
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: mine was the inverse, couldnt get 1024x768 in a clean jaunty
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: got it with an upgrade
[00:58] <Pollywog> interesting, I find that with Ubuntu, clean installs seem to be better than upgrades
[00:59] <Pollywog> almost every upgrade I have done in Ubuntu/kubuntu has ended with some problem
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> true but this time is how it flew. I just roll with it
[01:01] <Pollywog> I can't get 1024x768 in virtualbox with Jaunty but I can live with it
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[01:03] <Pollywog> ActionParsnip: ty
[01:03] <Pollywog> ActionParsnip: yes, I could not get the virtualbox additions to install
[01:04] <Pollywog> not in Linux
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: then you need those
[01:04] <Pollywog> perhaps the problem is in the version of Virtualbox I am using
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/13/installing-guest-additions-for-ubuntu-guests-in-virtualbox/
[01:05] <Pollywog> I will have to wait until the next version
[01:05] <Pollywog> oh thanks
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: http://virtualbox.wordpress.com/doc/installing-guest-additions-on-ubuntu/
[01:06] <Pollywog> ty
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: if you can find VBoxLinuxAdditions.run file some place you should be ok
[01:06] <Pollywog> k
[01:21] <Guest55230> gfffff
[01:21] <Guest55230> ghhhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:22] <Pollywog> ActionParsnip: ty I got the virtualbox additions to install.  I still can't get the higher resolution, there appears to be a bug in xorg
[01:23] <Pollywog> they call it a beta (Jaunty) for a reason
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Pollywog: true
[01:23] <Pollywog> but now I know how to install the "additions"       thanks
[01:35] <draik_> How can I find the filesystem on a computer? I want to know if I setup Ext 2 or 3
[01:35] <genii> If the filesystem is mounted, the :  mount                        command will usually say
[01:36] <draik_> It's on the actual HDD
[01:36] <dwidmann> and if it's not mounted, sudo parted /dev/something print
[01:39] <draik_> I'm running that HDD on the laptop
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> draik_: sudo fdisk -l
[01:44] <draik_> I purchased an Acer Aspire One (netbook) and am currently installing Kubuntu on 140GB of the 160GB HDD. That is going to be Ext3. 2GB are going to swap. The other 8GB is for another Linux-based OS and want to find the fs.
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> draik_: fdisk will tell you
[01:44] <draik_> ActionParsnip: I just ran that on this laptop and it doesn't mention Ext3
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> draik_: can you pastebin the output
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[01:47] <draik_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148687/
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> draik_: try the mount command
[01:49] <genii> If you use logdump feature of debugfs and no result, it's ext2
[01:50] <draik_> ActionParsnip: I tried it on the other laptop (with the other OS) and it's saying "auto"
[01:51] <javier> hello, someone is using tuxguitar with kubuntu hardy???
[01:51] <lun4tic> hm... seems to be a jaunty bug
[01:51] <lun4tic> the usb creator should create casper-rw file
[01:52] <lun4tic> which is used as persistant drive
[01:52] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[01:52] <draik_> ign0ramus: Holy jeebus!
[01:52] <puddle> Ello
[01:52] <puddle> =\
[01:52] <ign0ramus> sup shinigama?
[01:52] <lun4tic> but it cannot create the file if the usb stick is >2gig or the file size >2gig because of dd that is used do create the file
[01:52] <draik_> :( it's shinigami
[01:52] <draik_> Off by a letter
[01:52] <lun4tic> damn limitations
[01:53] <draik_> Johnny, tell him what he's won!
[01:53] <ign0ramus> my bad dude.
[01:53] <draik_> (not my new netbook, that's what!)
[01:53] <ign0ramus> i've got problems, too...
[01:53] <draik_> ign0ramus: It's been a while. How you been?
[01:53] <ign0ramus> Great, until I just messed up my entire music library :(
[01:53] <draik_> ActionParsnip: It is just labeled as 'Extended"
[01:54] <draik_> ign0ramus: How did that happen? (not as bad as my entire Ext3 Kubuntu partition being wiped from not double- or triple-checking the install
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> draik_: then you havent set any logical partitions on it, or they would show up
[01:54] <draik_> s/install/backup
[01:54] <ign0ramus> draik_: ouch.  ok here's the dilemma (and the resulting challenge)...
[01:55] <draik_> ActionParsnip: Sorry, wrong partition. It's reiserfs
[01:55] <ign0ramus> draik_: I had just ripped a lot of new music to my library, and wanted to organize things a bit.  Amarok does a nice job of categorizing all music files into neat folders, alphabetically...
[01:56] <ign0ramus> draik_: So somehow this time, I must have set it to rename all my music files *without* their extension.  Now Amarok will not import any of them, and will not play them until I add the extension to the end of the filename.
[01:57] <ign0ramus> draik_: I'm not manually renaming 7k tracks... there's got to be a way, right?
[01:57] <draik_> Yeah
[01:57] <draik_> ign0ramus: EASY! There's an app within the repos
[01:57] <draik_> Krename
[01:57] <ign0ramus> draik_: "There's an app for that".
[01:57] <ign0ramus> draik_: checking it out now...
[01:58] <draik_> You can change extensions to MP3, mp3 or even ADD the extension
[01:58] <ign0ramus> draik_: what about the .m3u, .aac, .mp4, etc?  Will it auto-detect filetype, or will I have to name them all with the same extension?
[01:59] <draik_> It's not that smart
[01:59] <draik_> You will have to spit those out
[01:59] <ign0ramus> draik_: not too bad... I'd say 95% of my collection is in .mp3 anyway, so this will save a *ton* of time.  good lookin' out!
[02:00] <draik_> No worries. I know of this because of a MAJOR issue with the naming of images from my digicam and gf's digicam. They had to be in lowercase extensions (go fig) and her digicam set everything in caps, so yeah.
[02:01] <draik_> That saved ME on hours of 'right-click, rename, (change to .jpg), enter, next image...'
[02:02] <dave_> hello I am having a little trouble getting video working I installed medibuntu
[02:02] <ign0ramus> draik_: importing files to rename now...
[02:02] <dave_> I have Intrepid
[02:02] <draik_> ign0ramus: Cool. it's a really great app, IMO.
[02:03] <dave_> Is 9.04 much better than 8.10?
[02:03] <xjjk> dave_: with respect to what
[02:04] <dave_> over  all getting video working setup etc..
[02:04] <xjjk> dave_: what do you mean video... your video driver? what video card do you have
[02:05] <dave_> I have Nvidia
[02:05] <draik_> xjjk: Are you OK? Your psychic powers seem to be malfunctioning...
[02:05] <xjjk> draik_: eh?
[02:05] <draik_> Never mind.
[02:06] <draik_> dave_: Your answers and questions are esoteric. We don't know what you have or what the issue (really) is at the moment.
[02:06] <dave_> I am having trouble getting youtube videos working I installed medibuntu and it still does not work
[02:06] <draik_> dave_: nVidia ___?___
[02:07] <Aizawa> This is probably a silly question, but the daily .iso's are fully updated, right? The latest daily is 04/10, so it has all updates until yesterday, right?
[02:07] <dwidmann> dave_: medibuntu is just a repository, it isn't a package ... if you want "working youtube videos", install the "flashplugin-nonfree" package
[02:07] <Aizawa> A lot of "right" in that sentence, but eh.
[02:07] <dave_> where would I find that exactly?
[02:08] <draik_> dave_: In the repos
[02:08] <ign0ramus> draik_: is there a way to import the contents of entire folders into krename?
[02:08] <dave_> thanks
[02:08] <draik_> ign0ramus: you can't add a directory?
[02:08] <ign0ramus> draik_: doesn't appear that way... lemme try the simple GUI mode...
[02:09] <mkasson> I just seem to have lost my panel that had all my widgets set up in it.  how do I get it back?
[02:10] <mkasson> add panel apparently is not it
[02:10] <dwidmann> !apt | dave_
[02:10] <draik_> ign0ramus: It's been a while. Thought that was an option. I guess not. You can just CTRL+A and then 'open' into kRename
[02:10] <dave_> I am installing non free
[02:12] <ign0ramus> draik_: OK, I got an entire directory added, but each folder (each artist has their own folder) has mixed files, like album art, etc.  It seems that I would still have to go through each folder manually and rename some files and not others :(
[02:12] <ign0ramus> draik_: Do you think Picard would work?
[02:12] <draik_> ign0ramus: I've never used Picard to give you an honest answer. Sorry.
[02:13] <ign0ramus> draik_: ideally, forcing Amarok to accept these files into the library and then batch renaming as I did before would work... don't suppose there's a way to do that, huh?
[02:15] <dave_> It's working now I had a mozilla flash swf conflict thanks for your help
[02:18] <draik_> ign0ramus: No, I don't think so.
[02:18] <draik_> ign0ramus: But you can ask in the amarok channel. They may know.
[02:19] <ign0ramus> draik_: that just dawned at the exact moment you said that
[02:40] <Guest41991> How do you reset your plasmoids to default?
[02:45] <mkasson> I "lost" or hid(?) my panel that had all my widgets set up in it.  how do I get it back?
[02:50] <rgarcia> Hi all, does anybody know how do I install Katapult in  Kubuntu 8.10?
[02:51] <dwidmann> rgarcia: it has more or less been discontinued
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> rgarcia: its replaced by krunner now, you could compile it
[02:51] <rgarcia> what do you mean?
[02:51] <dwidmann> rgarcia: most useful thing you can do to help ease that is to set the run dialog's key combo to alt+space
[02:51] <rgarcia> they removed it?
[02:51] <genii> rgarcia: Yes
[02:52] <rgarcia> mmm..and is there any way similar to use as katap?
[02:52] <dwidmann> rgarcia: he discontinued because he didn't see the point in trying to compete with krunner, which could already do much of what katapult could do, and with a little bit of effort, probably more ...... or something like that
[02:52] <dave_> I notice libdvdcss2 is not accessable from medibuntu site can I get it anywhere else?
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> rgarcia: theres nothing stopping you compiling it: http://katapult.kde.org/
[02:54] <rgarcia> but there's another application which do that?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> !info libdvdcss2
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> !find libdvd
[02:54] <dwidmann> rgarcia: if you want to change krunner from alt+f2 to alt+space, go to systemsettings -> keyboard & mouse -> global shortcuts, in the "KDE Component" dropdown, pick Run Command Interface, Change Run commands shortcut to alt+space or whatever
[02:56] <dwidmann> !css
[02:56] <rgarcia> mmm krunner is ok for me as it comes...]thanx a lot
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest41991: you can run: killall plasma; rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*; rm /.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma &
[02:57] <Guest41991> Is there any way to reset the plasmoids to default?
[02:57] <Jusken> señore soy nuevo en kubuntu. como se que version de kde tengo
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> !es | Jusken
[02:58] <Jusken> ok. thanks
[02:58] <Guest41991> Wow, fluent Spanish goin on
[02:58] <rgarcia> another question is, has the liquidweather for Kubuntu 8.10?
[02:58] <Jusken> may somebody help me?
[02:59] <Guest41991> I'm new... I'm used to Windows
[03:00] <p_quarles> Jusken: open a KDE app, click on "Help" and select "About KDE"; that will give you the version number
[03:00] <Jusken> i have instaled kbuntu 8.10 but i want to know  which kde i have
[03:00] <p_quarles> Jusken: I just told you :)
[03:01] <Jusken> ok thanks a lot  quarles
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest85318: i gave you the command
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest85318: it will reset your plasma back to defaults
[03:11] <daskreech> Hallo
[03:11] <daskreech> can someone do me a favour?
[03:12] <genii> daskreech: Depends on the favour
[03:12] <daskreech> go to http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages and see if any of the torrents start
[03:12] <daskreech> Also tell me how many seends you have
[03:13] <genii> daskreech: I just d/l the iso from there a short while ago :)
[03:13] <genii> One minute
[03:13] <daskreech> genii: Straight http download?
[03:13] <genii> daskreech: Yup
[03:13] <daskreech> kk
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> daskreech: 1 seed so far
[03:14] <m4v> 3 seeds for i386
[03:14] <daskreech> ok
[03:14] <daskreech> weird
[03:14] <daskreech> none of the seeds can see each other
[03:14] <daskreech> but I guess other people can see the seeds which I guess is what matters
[03:15]  * daskreech leaves it seeding for another 24 hours
[03:15] <m4v> for amd64 there's a seed but isn't downloading
[03:15] <daskreech> Crap
[03:16] <genii> Here too
[03:16] <daskreech> That's not good
[03:16] <Jusken> hey guys  sorry for troubles may i cause
[03:17] <daskreech> genii: Which one did you pull over http? i386 ?
[03:17] <genii> daskreech: No, amd64
[03:20] <daskreech> hrrm
[03:20] <genii> daskreech: Took about 25 minutes
[03:20] <daskreech> hmm someone just connected to me
[03:20] <daskreech> any of you are downloading now?
[03:21] <Jusken> but now  i haved  connected  my pendrive and show me tis error:An  error has occured chargin media:/sdb1:
[03:22] <m4v> daskreech: maybe me?
[03:22] <daskreech> hi Jusken
[03:22] <Jusken> hi
[03:23] <daskreech> I missed the runup what's the problem?
[03:23] <Jusken> the folder dosn´t exist :/sdb1
[03:23] <daskreech> m4v: 190.51.x.x ?
[03:23] <m4v> daskreech: yep, it's me then
[03:23] <Metal> Can i get a bit of help?
[03:24] <daskreech> Jusken: KDE4 ?
[03:24] <Metal> I'm using a lexmark x2600 series printer on KDE4
[03:24] <daskreech> Metal: If you ask for it and give details
[03:24] <daskreech> Metal: Which KDE4 ?
[03:24] <Metal> KDE 4.1.4
[03:24] <Jusken> sorry i´m new using kubuntu. KDE 2.6
[03:25]  * m4v wonders if should do to the trouble of downloading and help seeding it :p
[03:25] <daskreech> Jusken: Want to try that again ? :)
[03:25] <daskreech> m4v: Is it really a trouble?
[03:25] <genii> 2.6 ?
[03:25] <Jusken> yeah
[03:25] <Metal> Damn, outdated much
[03:26] <m4v> daskreech: nah
[03:26] <Jusken> it seem
[03:26] <daskreech> Alt+tabbing uses so much memory in Gnome :(
[03:26] <Metal> daskreech: I'm thinking this error might have to do with the "missing-cup filter"
[03:26] <Metal> Warning: Could not find '/usr/bin/adept_manager', starting '/bin/b Please check your profile settings.
[03:26] <Jusken> so what can i do then
[03:26] <daskreech> Jusken: Where are you getting that informaton from?
[03:26] <genii> Probably kernel is 2.6, not KDE
[03:27] <Metal> Jusken: type /sysinfo
[03:27] <daskreech> genii: Ah Right :)
[03:27] <daskreech> Jusken: In Konqueror go to help -> about KDE
[03:27] <daskreech> Metal: try sudo apt-get -f install in konsole ?
[03:27] <genii> Metal: That will just tell them their Gnome version is "Unknown"
[03:27] <Jusken> at konsole
[03:28] <Jusken> i did it
[03:28] <daskreech> Jusken: In konsole do help -> about KDE
[03:28] <daskreech> :)
[03:28] <daskreech> what version of KDE does it say you are using ?
[03:29] <p_quarles> Jusken: 2.6 is not your KDE version; 8.10 comes with 4.1 by default
[03:30] <ramon> does any body knows how do i install liquid weather for Kub 8.10
[03:30] <Metal> daskreech: I downloaded the file from lexmark.com
[03:30] <Jusken> ok when i downloaded the kubuntu i remember  was kubuntu 8.10
[03:31] <daskreech> Jusken: Did you do aything to it after?
[03:31] <ramon> any?
[03:31] <Metal> Still getting that error
[03:31] <Jusken> no man
[03:31] <Metal> !info liquid weather
[03:32] <Metal> !info weather
[03:32] <daskreech> Jusken: Ok so you are usnig KDE 4.1 then
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> ramon: http://liquidweather.net/downloads.php
[03:32] <Jusken> now i know
[03:32] <ramon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/148716/
[03:32] <ramon> take a look the log
[03:32] <daskreech> Jusken: You don't see that in help -> about KDE ?
[03:32] <Jusken> yeah
[03:33] <daskreech> OK cool
[03:33] <Metal> :(
[03:33] <daskreech> now what happened when you put in a thunb drive ?
[03:33] <daskreech> !print
[03:33] <daskreech> !lexmark
[03:33] <daskreech> !lexmark > Metal
[03:34] <ramon> !print test
[03:34] <DarkTan> what should i use for dealing with .rar files?
[03:34] <daskreech> DarkTan: unrar
[03:35] <daskreech> !info unrar
[03:35] <daskreech> !info unrar-free
[03:35] <DarkTan> so sudo apt-get install unrar?
[03:35] <ramon> help...my sound speaker is not working anymore, it was, but suddenly lost the sound, can anybody help me?
[03:35] <ramon> !pastebin
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> ramon: try restarting hal
[03:35] <Jusken> nothing
[03:35] <ramon> hal?
[03:36] <ramon> what is it?
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[03:36] <ramon> !hal
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> hal = hardware abstraction layer
[03:36] <daskreech> DarkTan: Yeah
[03:36] <DarkTan> k, thx
[03:36] <ramon> i saw....lo...and how do i do that?
[03:36] <daskreech> Jusken: Doesn't mount anywhere?
[03:37] <jimmy51_home> !jaunty
[03:38] <ramon> ActionParsnip: how do i restart hal?
[03:38] <Jusken> it show me the same error
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> ramon: i just told you
[03:38] <daskreech> Jusken: Which error?
[03:39] <Jusken> sdb1 do not exist
[03:39] <ramon> yes...but i don't know how do i do that]
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> ramon: its a konsole command
[03:39] <daskreech> Jusken: Does it exist ?
[03:39] <DarkTan> arg...nwn2 still does not work
[03:40] <Jusken> no
[03:40] <daskreech> Jusken: So there is no /dev/sdb ?
[03:40] <m4v> duh, ktorrent crashed...
[03:40] <daskreech> DarkTan: try unrar x file.rar on the cli
[03:40] <ramon> yeah....and can you please tell me which command is it??? i'm new here
[03:40] <ramon> i need to learn.
[03:40] <daskreech> m4v: aaahh that's what stopped it
[03:41] <DarkTan> so, it appears that 3d acceloration has been disabled on my gfx card
[03:41] <daskreech> I was just poking my ports
[03:41] <DarkTan> how do i fix that?
[03:41] <daskreech> I hope the FBI doesn't read that >_<
[03:41] <daskreech> DarkTan: depends on the card
[03:42] <DarkTan> ati radeon mobility 200
[03:42] <daskreech> !ati > DarkTan
[03:42]  * DarkTan headdesks
[03:42] <dwidmann> daskreech: they probably can now if they want to >.>
[03:42] <DarkTan> do not want to deal with that right now...maybe tommorow
[03:43] <daskreech> DarkTan: right oh. Grab some non 3d acel game in the mean time
[03:43] <Guest53639> hi everybody : please help me. I am using kubuntu intrepid and everytime I open a program it will not open it in the traycon
[03:43] <DarkTan> i think i'm gonna grab some sleep, thank for the rar help tho
[03:43] <ramon> pls, somebody help me
[03:44] <daskreech> rachel_: which programs?
[03:44] <daskreech> ActionParsnip: were you helping ramon ?
[03:44] <rachel_> skim, amarok, nertwork manager....
[03:44] <rachel_> daskreech : skim, amarok, networkmanager
[03:44] <daskreech> rachel_: do you have a system tray ?
[03:44] <rachel_> yes
[03:44] <daskreech> what is in it?
[03:44] <ramon> i used to have sound but now i can't here anymore
[03:44] <rachel_> but it has only battery, kmix
[03:45] <Jusken> no
[03:45] <ramon> he told me to restar how..
[03:45] <daskreech> rachel_: umm try remove the system ray and readd it ?
[03:45] <rachel_> daskreech : already done, doesen't work
[03:45] <ramon> i saw this command sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[03:45] <ramon> but nothing happens
[03:45] <m4v> rachel_: restarting plasma?
[03:45] <daskreech> Jusken: Hmm not much that Linux can do if it can't see the hardware
[03:45] <rachel_> m4v : how_
[03:45] <rachel_> ?
[03:45] <daskreech> rachel_: kquitapp plasma && plasma in the konsole
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> daskreech: barely
[03:46] <Jusken> well
[03:46] <Jusken> thankks anyway
[03:46] <daskreech> ramon: Used to work ? when did it stop
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> ramon: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[03:46] <daskreech> Jusken: If you put something else in that slot it sees it ?
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> !sound | ramon
[03:46] <ramon> and after that, when i open amarok, appears a message, xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers
[03:46] <rachel_> daskreech : what now_
[03:47] <ramon> now...
[03:47] <rachel_> I have nothing now
[03:47] <rachel_> daskreech : no system tray, nothing
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> ramon: youu may want to restart alsa or pulse depending on what you use
[03:47] <rachel_> daskreech : and if I write plasma in the console everything comes back just the same as before
[03:48] <daskreech> rachel_: it came back with no system tray ?
[03:48] <rachel_> daskreech : with the system tray just as before, only kmix and battery and updates
[03:48] <ramon> i really don't know what happened
[03:49] <daskreech> rachel_: hrmm really that should work the systray is a strange beast but if one thing works they should all work
[03:50] <daskreech> I've been having an issue on Gnome where there is a space allocated for each of the apps but they never actually turn up
[03:50] <daskreech> rachel_: Wht happens if you press alt+ctrl+V ?
[03:50] <dwidmann> daskreech: kquitapp plasma && plasma == bad idea ... you'll want a sleep 5 or such in the middle or it might not come back up
[03:51] <dwidmann> erm, one =
[03:51] <daskreech> dwidmann: crap yeah You know what I normally am moving around config files when I do that which is why it works for me
[03:51] <rachel_> daskreech : it copies the text I have wrote before
[03:51] <daskreech> rachel_: But you don't see klipper in the system tray?
[03:51] <rachel_> no
[03:51] <rachel_> I closed it
[03:51] <rachel_> daskreech : no, I closed it, I don't use klipper
[03:52] <daskreech> oh then why does alt+ctrl+V work then ?
[03:52] <daskreech> that's a klipper shortcut
[03:52] <rachel_> well
[03:52] <rachel_> it works here, not on the desktop
[03:52] <m4v> rachel_: check if amarok has the "show in systray" option checked in its preferences
[03:52] <Jusken> hey daskreech  i was looking for and i realize that all was fine i went to media and found it
[03:53] <rachel_> hey
[03:53] <dwidmann> rachel_: you don't? Could hurt things when copying & pasting between different apps, especially if you close the one that you copied from
[03:53] <rachel_> mv4 : hey I just received one error regarding klauncher
[03:53] <daskreech> Jusken: ?? can you pastebin the output from the command mount ?
[03:53] <daskreech> Jusken: Just type in mount and then put the results on pastebin
[03:53] <m4v> rachel_: I don't understand, when doing what?
[03:54] <rachel_> mv4 : checking on amarok
[03:54] <Jusken> man sorry is the first time  i use Kubuntu
[03:54] <Jusken> ok i´ll do
[03:55] <Jusken> thanks i think is solved
[03:55] <daskreech> Jusken: Welcome to Kubuntu :)
[03:56] <daskreech> Jusken: Anything that gets automounted does so in /media so your disk, usb drives and optical disks all go there
[03:57] <BrianH> howdy
[03:57] <dwidmann> hmm, amarok 2.1b ... sounds tasty
[03:58] <daskreech> Yeah I wants debs
[03:58] <Jusken> ok. thanks
[03:58] <dwidmann> I'll settle for build from src if I can work out how to build/install Qtscript
[03:58] <daskreech> With a script of course
[03:59] <dwidmann> daskreech: hm?
[04:12] <jamesjedimaster> !ru
[04:12] <jamesjedimaster> !ro
[04:15] <rachel_> daskreech : still no progress
[04:15] <rachel_> daskreech : amarok has the show in systray
[04:16] <daskreech> rachel_: amarok which other app won't join the systray Hot tub ?
[04:17] <rachel_> daskreech : skim, konversation, opera, ktorrent, knetworkmanager......
[04:17] <daskreech> hrmm
[04:17] <daskreech> hold on
[04:20] <daskreech> rachel_: did it ever work ?
[04:22] <rachel_> yes
[04:22] <rachel_> daskreech : yes it worked before
[04:22] <daskreech> about when did it stop ?
[04:23] <rachel_> daskreech : after I installed skim
[04:24] <daskreech> !info skim
[04:24] <rachel_> daskreech : skim is the package to write in chinese on ubuntu
[04:24] <daskreech> Hmm KDE3
[04:25] <daskreech> I know.
[04:25] <daskreech> is it running now?
[04:29] <tdapple> tried to install Digikam in Jaunty says I need to remove libgpod4-nogtk wich seems to be a Amarok Dependancy?
[04:35] <rachel__> daskreech : sorry it went out of power
[04:35] <rachel__> daskreech : still have this problem with the traycon
[04:36] <rachel__> daskreech : when I start some application it says "impossible communicate with klauncher"
[04:36] <daskreech> Is skim running now?
[04:36] <rachel__> yes
[04:43] <Metal> !info touchfreeze
[04:43] <daskreech> What happens if you kill skim ?
[04:44] <rachel_> daskreech : i gave /etc/init.d/kdm restart and it fixed temporaily the problem
[04:44] <daskreech> how temporary ?
[04:44] <rachel_> I think only for this session
[04:45] <daskreech> UNtil skim loaded?
[04:45] <rachel_> no skim is already loaded
[04:45] <daskreech> hmm ok
[04:45] <daskreech> ok
[04:45] <rachel_> thanks man, I appreaciated your help
[04:46] <daskreech> ok
[04:46]  * daskreech goes to sleep
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[04:46] <daskreech> Top top top
[04:58]  * genii sips
[05:12] <tweakedeh> I'm using K3B and I want to burn an AVI so it will be a dvd.. How would I burn it?
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> tweakedeh: convert it with devede to an iso then open the iso with k3b
[05:13] <tweakedeh> Thank you.
[05:20] <trappist> I concur.  I just discovered devede myself.  it rocks.
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> lots
[05:42] <showers> Well, it worked!
[05:43] <showers> i couldn't log on as admin, so i came here and asked how to do it,
[05:43] <showers> Somebody here told me to go to the rescue consol, when you boot up you have that choice
[05:44] <showers> and to type in 'adduser <username> admin
[05:44] <showers> it didn't work quite as expected, i couldn't create a new user
[05:45] <showers> But I could give admininstrative rights to current users, so i did
[05:45] <showers> Worked like a charm, thank you!
[05:47] <showers> What it did was add <username> to the admin group
[05:49] <showers> Then I created a new user, with admin rights, and took the rights away from this user who uses the net
[05:49] <showers> Now i feel fairly safe surfing as a user
[05:50] <showers> One tiny detail: as a regular user i can't run the front end for the firewall; firestarter.
[05:51] <showers> So i hope that it is still running in the background somewhere. Would that be right?
[05:52] <aga> i don't think it will run if you don't invoke it
[05:52] <aga> but check the processes on top or ps aux
[05:54] <showers> What won't run? the actual firewall (itables?) or just the front end? I had the idea the firewall was always on.
[05:54] <aga> the frontend
[05:55] <showers> Perfect? I don't need the frontend as long as the firewall is on, right?
[05:55] <aga> anyway, i think that you need to configure iptables to make it a real properly working firewall
[05:56] <showers> Although it would be nice to know that it kept the firewall preferences i gave it as an admin?
[05:56] <aga> right but you need to configure the rules on iptables if you want it to be effective
[05:56] <aga> there was a way to check your actual iptables sec
[05:57] <showers> How so?
[05:57] <aga> yeah to check the rules
[05:57] <genii> If you ran firestarter at some point using sudo instead of kdesudo that might explain your not being able to reopen it
[05:57] <aga> not sure, i have never digged to much on there
[05:57] <trappist> showers: firestarter is just a frontend for iptables, which doesn't "run", it tells the kernel how to filter traffic.  once the rules are in place, there's nothing to run, the kernel handles it.
[05:57] <trappist> sudo iptables-save to look at the current rules
[05:58] <aga> oh thank you :D i could have been looking for that half an hour
[05:58] <showers> Are the rules the same for all users, or just for the user who sets them up?
[05:59] <showers> Can't sudo anything because as a regular user it isn't allowed
[05:59] <trappist> a regular user is who sudo is made for
[05:59] <trappist> as long as he's a sudoer
[06:00] <trappist> anyway since the firewall rules are in the kernel, they're not user-specific.  a packet comes into your network interface, and your kernel decides what to do with it based on the firewall rules.
[06:01] <showers> trappist: Thank you! Exactly what I wanted to hear.
[06:01] <trappist> it's possible (but not very easy) to make firewall rules that match packets based on the user that owns the process that's sending or receiving the packet, but you'd know if you'd done that
[06:03] <showers> So what do you guys do? Do you run with admin privileges or is it safer (i think so) to run without?
[06:04] <showers> Anyway, moving along here, has anyone tried Zim?
[06:05] <showers> That is a great little program
[06:06] <showers> I use NoteTab in windows but it doesn't port well to linux and is much harder to use.
[06:06] <showers> But was much better suited for programmers, which I sorta was at one point.
[06:06] <showers> I'm looking at Bluefish now
[06:07] <showers> NoteTab though, has all those quick and easy paste libraries, and you can make your own templates.
[06:08] <xjjk> quick question: how can I enter Unicode characters in KDE?
[06:09] <Metal> What does kde3 use to compress files?
[06:10] <Metal> !info compress
[06:10] <Metal> !info *compress*
[06:11] <dwidmann> Metal: to compress which files?
[06:11] <Metal> folders and such
[06:11] <dwidmann> Like a GUI? ark
[06:11] <Metal> Thought that was to decompress
[06:11] <dwidmann> I believe it can do both.
[06:12] <dwidmann> I generally just use tar though ...
[06:12] <Metal> I can't compress with ark
[06:12] <dwidmann> "Ark can be used to browse, extract, create, and modify archives."
[06:15] <seksu> i have no sound, i think there
[06:15] <seksu> 's a conflict
[06:16] <seksu> hmm i guess i should sleep myself, night
[06:16] <Metal|AFK> bai
[06:17] <rohan> what kde version will jaunty ship with? kde 4.2.1 or 4.2.2?
[06:18] <dwidmann> rohan: looks like jaunty is already @ 4.2.2
[06:26] <hXc> yo
[06:26] <hXc> how do i connect to a different server?
[06:31] <quantum> hi there
[06:32] <quantum> in kde 4.1 the folder view widget on desktop ... how do I change its transparency
[06:39] <rohan> dwidmann: ok, bcause the beta release page says 4.2.1
[06:39] <rohan> ah yes, i checked.. it's on 4.2.2.. great
[06:41] <winston> hi
[06:41] <cspack> quantum: i think it's part of the desktop theme, not sure
[06:46] <Pollywog> is there an app for KDE that does what ndisgtk does in Gnome?  ndisgtk does not seem to work in KDE (Jaunty)
[06:47] <Pollywog> it finds the driver and hardware but still cannot configure wifi
[06:49] <Pollywog> okay I think it IS working now
[06:53] <Pollywog> I upgraded to jaunty and it was lousy, so I tried a clean install and it's working like a charm on the same hardware
[06:54] <quantum> hi there
[06:54] <quantum> how do i install quanta in kde 4.1 ?
[06:54] <ktne> hello
[06:54] <ktne> i'm trying to install kubuntu
[06:55] <ktne> and i can't figure out whenver it was installed or not
[06:55] <dwidmann> quantum: don't think it has been completely ported yet, but you can still use the kde3 version
[06:55] <quantum> dwidmann: when i try to install it says some missing dependencies ... which when I try to install ... they try to remove some kde 4 components
[06:56] <ktne> anyone here has succeeded installing kubuntu 9.04 beta?
[06:56] <dwidmann> quantum: which ones?
[06:57] <quantum> dwidmann: I have a sh file on desktop ... clicking it opens in kate ... how do I execute it ?
[06:58] <dwidmann> quantum: open up Konsole, cd Desktop, ./thescriptsname.sh
[06:58] <quantum> dwidmann: no I want to execute it by double clicking
[06:59] <dwidmann> quantum: not sure you can execute a shell script that way ... you should probably use a *.desktop file instead if you want that sort of behavior
[06:59] <dwidmann> or rather, instead of instead, the *.desktop file can launch the script ...
[07:00] <quantum> right click properties .... add sh to the list of applications that open this type of file and move it on top
[07:00] <Ketrel> Where can I get QTRuby?
[07:01] <dwidmann> quantum: did it work?
[07:01] <quantum> yup
[07:01] <dwidmann> Ketrel: sudo apt-get install libqt4-ruby1.8
[07:02] <Ketrel> ah, it's separated
[07:03] <dwidmann> quantum: certainly more than one way to skin a cat :P
[07:03] <Ketrel> one more question, if for some reason sound just stopped working, is there anything to reinitialize it all without rebooting?
[07:04] <dwidmann> hmm, Ketrel, first check that it isn't muted at all, then maybe try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[07:05] <Ketrel> dwidmann: it just broke and xine cannot something any audio something
[07:05] <Ketrel> so I shall try that
[07:05] <quantum> :)
[07:06] <Ketrel> nope
[07:06] <Ketrel> "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"
[07:06] <dwidmann> Ketrel: another device probably has /dev/snd/something locked ...
[07:07] <dwidmann> **another app
[07:08] <Ketrel> dwidmann: any way to check?
[07:08] <dwidmann> Ketrel: cd /dev/snd; sudo fuser *
[07:09] <dwidmann> Ketrel: then figure out which ones they are ...
[07:09] <dwidmann> Ketrel: actually, probably just sudo fuser pcm*
[07:09] <Ketrel> three lines, should I pastebin, or is that ok?
[07:09] <Ketrel> nvm
[07:09] <Ketrel> just saw the pcm part
[07:10] <dwidmann> Ketrel: check which processes those PIDs are for with ps aux | grep <thenumber>
[07:10] <Ketrel> I know :) I didn't know which of the three files in use to look at
[07:14] <dwidmann> Ketrel: so what'd ya figure out?
[07:18] <Ketrel> something about clicking to search for lyrics from amarok is making another launcher process lock it
[07:20] <dwidmann> that's no fun
[07:20] <dwidmann> amarok 1.x or 2.x?
[07:21] <Ketrel> 1.x
[07:21] <Ketrel> I don't think 2.x is out of Kubuntu yet
[07:21] <Ketrel> *for
[07:22] <Ketrel> and I didn't add it from any unofficial repos
[07:22] <dwidmann> Ketrel: which lyrics script do you use?
[07:25] <Ketrel> lyricswiki
[07:25] <Ketrel> it happens when I click add or search
[07:25] <dwidmann> hmm, it still give you the trouble if you use a different script?
[07:25] <Ketrel> the ones that came with it didn't find the lyrics :p
[07:25] <dwidmann> Ketrel: I find Ruby Lyric works pretty well
[07:26] <dwidmann> very fast even on my laggy connection
[07:26] <dwidmann> usually finds the lyrics too
[07:27] <Ketrel> Well as long as I don't click add or search, I'm fine :p
[07:27] <Ketrel> BTW, "/bin/sh -c kfmclient openURL "http://www.lyricwiki.org/Akon:Right_Now_(Na_Na_Na)"
[07:28] <Ketrel> that's an example of what get's stuck locking it
[07:39] <vinci_> How can i disable print-applet & kblueplugd auto startup
[07:44] <cspack> anyone else notice dbus-daemon using a lot of memory?
[07:46] <cspack> mine was using like 700MB of memory after only 3 hrs uptime, think there's a memory leak somewhere
[07:46] <Ketrel> Anyone here familar with krita?
[07:48] <Ketrel> nvm, found what I needd
[07:48] <Ketrel> *needed
[08:04] <Pe3k> hello, I have intrepid and want to install kdiff3, found some howto: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdiff3/+bug/292233/comments/8 but I don't know what should I write after PREFIX= ...what is my KDE4-prefix ?
[08:12] <cspack> kde-config --prefix
[08:13] <cspack> type that in kconsole, it should return /usr or something similar
[08:16] <Pe3k> cspack: ok thanks, that is the same in my case '/usr' - so this is mentioned prefix? I expected some number...
[08:17] <cspack> you should use PREFIX=/usr
[08:17] <Pe3k> cspack: thanks
[08:18] <cspack> or DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr i mean
[08:20] <yu> hello!
[08:24] <Pe3k> cspack: yes, I understood ... it works! :) everything went well and I have working kdiff3 :) thanks again
[08:24] <cspack> nice :)
[09:05] <anhtaidatquang> oh
[09:06] <anhtaidatquang> i want install KDE 4.2
[09:06] <anhtaidatquang> ?
[09:45] <ktne> hello
[09:46] <ktne> how do i install a .deb file?
[09:46] <ktne> i downloaded one from adobe flash site
[09:46] <peaches> ktne: anything happen when you click on it?
[09:46] <ktne> peaches: not associated
[09:46] <Mamarok> ktne: usually its sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:47] <Mamarok> but Adobe providing *.deb is new!
[09:47] <ktne> ah
[09:47] <ktne> it works now
[09:47] <ktne> i clicked the wrong file :)
[09:47] <ktne> uff
[09:47] <ktne> i don't have the necessary permissions
[09:47] <Mamarok> of course not, you need sudo rights
[09:47] <ktne> i have them
[09:47] <Mamarok> do it in the Konsole
[09:47] <peaches> ktne: what did it open?
[09:47] <ktne> peaches: the installer
[09:48] <Mamarok> so it's not a *.deb
[09:48] <Mamarok> but a script
[09:48] <ktne> install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[09:49] <peaches> as fun as it is to play around with the console i'd like to see GUIs especially for newer users
[09:50] <ktne> do i have permissions if i start kde using startx instead of kdm?
[09:50] <ktne> because i think that i had permissions back when i started it using kdm
[09:51] <Mamarok> ktne: you have normal user rights
[09:51] <eagles0513875> ktne: if you are on kubuntu or debian you need to go from command line and type sudo then the command
[09:51] <Mamarok> the same as when starting kdm
[09:51] <ktne> but i can run sudo and enter the password
[09:51] <eagles0513875> thats how you have to do it ktne
[09:52] <Mamarok> ktne: in Konsile, riht
[09:52] <eagles0513875> sudo will be the password you use to login to the machine
[09:52] <ktne> yes in Konsole
[09:52] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: do you mind?
[09:52] <eagles0513875> sry Mamarok
[09:52] <ktne> also it looks like adobe has only a 32bit deb
[09:52]  * eagles0513875 goes back to doing what he was doing
[09:52] <Mamarok> ktne: there is a 64bit installer available normally, but not a *.deb
[09:53] <Mamarok> AFAIR
[09:55] <Mamarok> peaches: everything is available for the average user as a GUI
[09:55] <Mamarok> everything else is not aimed at the user having no sudo rights anyway
[09:55] <Mamarok> matter of security
[09:56] <Mamarok> hm, sry, was in a backlog
[09:56] <peaches> Mamarok: i'm skeptical of that but maybe that could be true but just a difference in degree of availbility vs usefulness (for example the awful kubuntu adept client)
[09:57] <Mamarok> well, that one will have gone in the next release AFAIK
[09:57] <peaches> Mamarok: though he did click on it and it brought up a GUI, but something is broken if it doesn't ask the password to install
[09:57] <peaches> found the program is called gdebi-kde
[09:58] <Mamarok> ouch, gdebi-kde?
[09:58] <Mamarok> that sounds like a KDE layer of a GTK app :(
[09:58] <Mamarok> plain awfull
[09:59] <Mamarok> peaches: one is not suppose to install a *.deb from Dolphin IMHO...
[09:59] <peaches> tried to use it to install a deb but it have symbol relocation error that is probably from using outside qt/kde though
[09:59] <Mamarok> at least not a plain user who should not install system wide things anyway
[09:59] <peaches> Mamarok: yeah.. i thought thats what he was going for until the permissions problem
[10:00] <peaches> Mamarok: oh i assumed he's not just a user
[10:00] <Mamarok> let's see if the bot has something
[10:00] <Mamarok> !deb
[10:01] <peaches> you know in a way that's kinda worse that he can't download a deb off the net as a normal user (hypothetically) and just insatll it
[10:01] <peaches> from a trusted source
[10:01] <Mamarok> that is just plain awfull, starting gdebi in KDE :(
[10:01] <peaches> kubuntu is second class
[10:01] <peaches> we gotta live with it
[10:01] <Mamarok> well, that would go against all securty basics of a Linux system
[10:01] <Mamarok> security* even
[10:02] <Mamarok> the user should never be allowed to install things unless he has sudo rights
[10:03] <peaches> Mamarok: not really. he's just going to go get the scripted version for a normal user in that event anyway. my point is that a *deb install won't install optionally to only the user's zone of permission
[10:03] <peaches> Mamarok: wow that's pretty draconian heh
[10:04] <peaches> well by 'install' i kinda just clump in there 'put a folder on his desktop with an executable file in it somewhere' as "installing" though
[10:04] <Mamarok> hm, that's the nature of a *.deb file, it has been packaged to go system wide, else you have to change the patch before making the package
[10:05] <Mamarok> at least, the *.deb association in the next release links to kpackagekit
[10:06] <Mamarok> "folder on a desktop" sounds so Windows like...
[10:07] <peaches> yeah thats what i mean about deb anyway how it's set up in kubuntu.. though he can probably opt for that one app i forget the name that was kde centric, a one-click local user installer for a bunch of apps
[10:07] <peaches> kpackageit eh? im going to loko that up.. hope it's good.. and hope you mean jaunty
[10:07] <peaches> Mamarok: doesn't it sound so mac like?
[10:07] <Mamarok> well, don't know if the usability is better since Alpha5, I very much hope so...
[10:08] <Mamarok> can't tell, never used a Mac :)
[10:08] <Mamarok> I live pretty much in the Linux world since 1999
[10:08] <peaches> i'd rather work with folders and desktops than directories and inodes thats just me
[10:08] <peaches> hehe
[10:09] <peaches> a lot has change since 1999 amirite
[10:09] <Mamarok> oh yes, my first distro had no working X...
[10:10] <Mamarok> luckily I'm in Kubuntu heaven since it's existence
[10:10] <Mamarok> :)
[10:10] <peaches> yea i dont remember how long ive used primary OS probably around windblows xp
[10:11] <peaches> linux desktop is pretty amazing these days
[10:11] <Mamarok> only used Windows at work, and that has changed too now
[10:11] <peaches> ive got a winblows install in a virtual machine backup just in case haha
[10:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:12] <eagles0513875> i hate being a gamer sometimes lol
[10:12] <eagles0513875> its holding me off from running all machines that i got with linux
[10:12] <Guest90869> hi everybody, I have a problem using kubuntu 8.10 : cannot find any way to see movies
[10:13] <rachel_> can someone help me fix it?
[10:13] <peaches> eagles0513875: ha yea man must suck ive learned to just really enjoy the few linux native games i enjoy instead
[10:13] <peaches> rachel_: sure buddy what happens when you cilck on it
[10:14] <peaches> you'll notice i always go for the GUI clicks first haha
[10:14] <eagles0513875> peaches: hop in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <giuseppe_> salve
[10:14] <rachel_> peaches : it starts for a fraction of second then it closes itself
[10:15] <peaches> rachel_: all movies or only some?
[10:15] <rachel_> all
[10:16] <Mamarok> sounds like a codec problem
[10:16] <peaches> rachel_: try right cilcking, then open with, and choose another media player
[10:16] <peaches> i wonder if that's kaffeine screwing up
[10:17] <peaches> whats the default media player?
[10:17] <BorNDeaD> rachel are you talking about dvds or downloaded videos?
[10:19] <bcoelho2000> hi everyone!
[10:19] <bcoelho2000> bazhang the alternate version of kubuntu worked out great!
[10:20] <rachel_> peaches : i have already tried that is not working
[10:21] <peaches> rachel_: sure but what specifically is happening when you try other programs?
[10:21] <rachel_> well
[10:21] <rachel_> peaches
[10:21] <BorNDeaD> rachel, install the gstreamer extra plugins package
[10:23] <peaches> BorNDeaD: do you happen to know the default kubuntu media player?
[10:23] <BorNDeaD> for me its dragon
[10:23] <BorNDeaD> kde 4.2
[10:23] <rachel_> BorNDeaD : cannot find the package
[10:24] <BorNDeaD> try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:24] <BorNDeaD> "
[10:24] <BorNDeaD> oops
[10:25] <bazhang> bcoelho2000, nice
[10:25] <rachel_> BorNDeaD : it says I need to wait 8 hours
[10:25] <drostie> It should be just dragonplayer -- try [aptitude search dragon] if you don't see it.
[10:25] <BorNDeaD> that seems strange
[10:25] <bcoelho2000> now i have 284 software updates avaiable
[10:25] <bcoelho2000> olololo
[10:26] <ktne> hello, i'm trying to compile something, i get "cannot find -lgthread-2.0", how can i search the package that contains thi?
[10:27] <peaches> rachel_: what is the first player that shows up at the top of the list when you go to "open with" ? that will help us know what is trying to load then crashing
[10:27] <bcoelho2000> KUBUNTU ROCKS!!!!!
[10:27] <rachel_> peaches : VLC, then Ihave dragonplayer, but dragonplayer has no video output
[10:28] <peaches> !codecs
[10:28] <BorNDeaD> "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly" --maybe
[10:29] <peaches> damnit  are any of these links directed to kubuntu instead of ubuntu :/
[10:29] <drostie> ktne: google suggests something like glib.
[10:29] <ktne> thanks
[10:30] <eagles0513875> peaches: the concepts are technically the same in regards to the links
[10:30] <ktne> drostie: libglib2.0-dev
[10:30] <bcoelho2000> has anyone tried the new 9.04 Kubuntu?
[10:31] <peaches> eagles0513875: sure but this a new user here presumably no easy Adept install either gotta go to CLI
[10:32] <eagles0513875> intrepid has adept already installed with it
[10:32] <eagles0513875> jaunty is where it changes the package manager
[10:32] <peaches> anyway probably just the codec issue BorNDeaD says
[10:32] <drostie> ktne: then I can't be more help -- I've never experienced that problem myself.
[10:32] <ktne> drostie: thanks, but that was the solution :) it worked :)
[10:33] <peaches> rachel_: if it download claims to take 8 hours and you're not on dialup or something, then just cancel and try again.. the codec install will probably fix things
[10:33] <BorNDeaD> i had the same problem and i believe thats what i did to fix it rachel_
[10:33] <Mamarok> bcoelho2000: certainly a lot of people, check in #ubuntu+1
[10:33] <bcoelho2000> cool
[10:33] <bcoelho2000> i've installed the 8.10 version
[10:34] <Mamarok> bcoelho2000: but the release is in aprox 2 weeks, so if you don't have to change, wait
[10:34] <bcoelho2000> but i will probably use apt-distupgrade to take it to another level
[10:34] <bcoelho2000> hmm nice
[10:34] <bcoelho2000> now that MS wil end the support for WinXP I expect to see many people coming to the Linux world
[10:35] <Mamarok> hm, they actually plan to provide XP downgrade for Win7 users....
[10:36] <Mamarok> so I guess corporate support will still be here for quite some time
[10:36] <bcoelho2000> thats right. i've read about it in znet
[10:36] <Mamarok> the only thing that ends is free support
[10:37] <Mamarok> but "free" is a big word, having to stay in phone loops for 30 minutes certainly brings some cash too
[10:37] <bcoelho2000> the thing that made me stick with windows were: driver support and Visual Studio for asp.net + .net + sql server development
[10:37] <bcoelho2000> but now my goal is to install Apache + Mono on Kubuntu
[10:41] <Mamarok> args, Mono :(
[10:41] <Mamarok> patent encumbred MS stuff
[10:42] <bcoelho2000> its the .net implementation for linnux
[10:43] <Mamarok> bcoelho2000: I know, still, it's full of MS patents and not really a recommended dev-environment for Free Software IMHO
[10:43] <Mamarok> but that's OT anyway
[10:43] <bcoelho2000> hmm i understand
[11:09] <bcoelho2000> i'm trying to install flash player
[11:09] <bcoelho2000> but i can't find the plugins directory
[11:09] <BorNDeaD> problems?
[11:09] <drostie> an install of flashplugin-nonfree should do that sort of stuff for you.
[11:09] <bcoelho2000> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ??
[11:10] <drostie> That would be it. With superuser privileges, of course.
[11:10] <bcoelho2000> sudo :)
[11:10] <bcoelho2000> oki
[11:10] <BorNDeaD> lol
[11:10] <bcoelho2000> will try :)
[11:10] <Laeborg> !msn
[11:12] <bcoelho2000> how do you know this names?
[11:12] <BorNDeaD> ??
[11:13] <libervisco> Some things wont play in amarok..
[11:14] <libervisco> and it just crashed :S
[11:14] <BorNDeaD> what wont play?
[11:15] <libervisco> some shoutcast streams and some youtube stuff from the youtube plugin
[11:15] <BorNDeaD> i dont use amarok for that sorry
[11:15] <BorNDeaD> i have no idea
[11:19] <Mamarok> libervisco: you talk about the youtube script?
[11:20] <Mamarok> that's third party software, so you should check with the author
[11:20] <libervisco> yeah and shoutcast
[11:20] <Mamarok> libervisco: which version of Amarok?
[11:20] <libervisco> 2.0.2
[11:21] <Mamarok> well, it works in 2.1, so maybe wait for the package to arrive in your repos
[11:21] <Mamarok> backports btw
[11:21] <Mamarok> shoutcast I mean
[11:21] <libervisco> will it come to jaunty before release?
[11:21] <Mamarok> but sometimes it's just the streams server who are down, that's not an Amarok problem
[11:21] <libervisco> yeah, could be
[11:22] <Mamarok> libervisco: not likely, feature freeze
[11:22] <libervisco> just was weird cause some of these streams are in the "cool streams" list which should rarely be down
[11:22] <Mamarok> but it will end up in the backports
[11:22] <libervisco> damn :S
[11:22] <Mamarok> libervisco: as I said, that's a server problem, not an Amarok problem
[11:22] <Mamarok> we only provide the links, not the servers :)
[11:22] <libervisco> I know :D
[11:23] <libervisco> well actually I wont add a backports repository, just get the specific amarok package
[11:23] <libervisco> don't want to have other stuff updated which I don't want :)
[11:23] <Mamarok> then just choose what you want, you don't have to install everything
[11:24] <Mamarok> and you will have to activate the backports to get it, once it's in the repo
[11:24] <libervisco> yeah, but I mean if there is something in backports that I already do have installed, but don't want updated
[11:24] <Mamarok> you don't have to, just select what you want to install
[11:24] <tsimpson> you can choose what packages to update and what not
[11:24] <libervisco> on dist-upgrade I mean
[11:24] <libervisco> or just upgrade
[11:25] <tsimpson> then don't dist-/upgrade ;)
[11:25] <tsimpson> just apt-get install <package>
[11:25] <tsimpson> and it'll be updated
[11:25] <libervisco> ah but that's too convenient not to do :P
[11:25] <Mamarok> libervisco: you don't make distrupgrade everytime, only once to upgrade, then you choose what you want in kpackagekit
[11:25] <libervisco> right
[11:27] <libervisco> btw, anyone has issues with adding widgets to the panel?
[11:28] <libervisco> this is a clean from-scratch net install.. and it didn't work from the get go.. when I press the thing for editing the panel and click the "add widgets" button, the dialog shows up for like a milisecond and then just disappears and nothing happens
[11:28] <libervisco> I can add widgets to the desktop though, just not the panel
[11:29] <Mamarok> libervisco: in intrepid? should work
[11:29] <libervisco> jaunty
[11:29] <Mamarok> libervisco: for jaunty, ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:29] <libervisco> and it did work in jaunty last time I tried, when it was KDE4.2.1
[11:29] <libervisco> hm ok..
[11:30] <libervisco> forgot about that channel, thanks :)
[11:30] <Mamarok> you're welcome :)
[11:35] <jonathan__> hello!
[11:35] <jonathan__> i've two parts of a audio book. Both parts are in m4b format and contains bookmarks for the chapters. I would like to put these two files together to one big file without loosing the position of the bookmarks... Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[11:36] <jonathan__> thanks in advance :)
[11:41] <Neremor>  i've two parts of a audio book. Both parts are in m4b format and contains bookmarks for the chapters. I would like to put these two files together to one big file without loosing the position of the bookmarks... Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[11:41] <Mamarok> jonathan__: you don't have to merge hte file
[11:42] <Mamarok> hm, Neremor ^^
[11:42] <Mamarok> the* file
[11:43] <Mamarok> jonathan__, Neremor: which nick am I supposed to address now?
[11:44] <Neremor> Neremor please
[11:44] <Mamarok> ok, so as I said, you don't have to merge the file, you can play those one after the other
[11:45] <Mamarok> when mergin you would have to re-write the two indexes with the risk of loosing it
[11:46] <Neremor> hm but i prefer having only one big file
[11:47] <Neremor> i will backup both before so it's not that risky to join the files
[11:47] <Mamarok> then check this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180073&page=6
[11:47] <Mamarok> google found it
[11:48] <Neremor> ok thanks
[11:49] <root> hallo^^
[11:50] <Mamarok> Guest76532: are you logged in as root? Very bad idea IMHO
[11:50] <Guest76532> jeah
[11:50] <Guest76532> i'ved changed since these moment ^^
[11:50] <Mamarok> well, you changed your nick, but did you change the login?
[11:51] <Guest76532> oh
[11:51] <SandGorgon> guys.. the tooltips in KDE are the plasma-style ones and I dont like them very much - is it possible to get the simple yellow tooltips (used in gnome) ?
[11:51] <Mamarok> SandGorgon: no
[11:51] <SandGorgon> Mamarok: oh ok..
[11:51] <Guest76532> you mean,...i started irc witch sudo rights ?
[11:51] <Mamarok> Guest76532: that's what I was asking, yes
[11:52] <Mamarok> and you shouldn't do that, ever
[11:52] <Mamarok> or even log into KDE as root, veery bad idea
[11:52] <Guest76532> i know XD....but that happens sometimes ^^
[11:53] <Guest76532> one minut ^^.....i'll be back ^.-
[11:53] <Mamarok> well, don't complain if you break things or leave doors wide open for others
[11:54] <azaghal> re^^
[11:58] <Guest11002> ok...i have a little question for you guys,...what is "jam" ? ( i had compiled open outcast with it ), but i don't know how or what it is
[11:59] <Guest11002> something like "make" ?
[12:01] <Mamarok> don't think so, maybe a script
[12:02] <victim> Just A Minute?
[12:02] <Mamarok> did you google for it?
[12:02] <SSJ_GZ> Guest11002: More or less: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perforce_Jam
[12:02] <Mamarok> !ask | victim
[12:02] <Guest11002> ok, i found it on manpage^^
[12:02] <Guest11002> DESCRIPTION
[12:02] <Guest11002>        Jam is a program construction tool, like make(1).
[12:03]  * Mamarok just learned something :)
[12:03] <Guest11002> that it^^...i'm finished
[12:03] <Guest11002> bye^
[12:25] <hyper_ch> could it be that patch and diff changed from 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[12:25] <hyper_ch> and who is responsible for kubuntu.org ? The download iframe doesn't work for anymore for the location download
[12:39] <admiral0> hi
[12:40] <admiral0> i need a good guide for packaging for the ppa
[12:41] <rachel_> hey i love u all guys
[12:41] <rachel_> and gals
[12:46] <jim_> hi
[12:49] <Mamarok> admiral0: did you check that:
[12:49] <Mamarok> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[12:49] <admiral0> yes, i've seen it
[12:50] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: you don't happen to be involved with kubuntu.org ?
[12:50] <admiral0> i was interested to see if there was something else out there
[12:50] <Mamarok> ? nohyper_ch: the website you mean
[12:50] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: the website you mean? no
[12:50] <Mamarok> sry,
[12:50] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: ok :)
[12:50] <Mamarok> admiral0: what is not good about that guide?
[12:51] <admiral0> i didn't sy it isn't good
[12:51] <Mamarok> that's the official one and it's fairly complete
[12:51] <admiral0> i wanted to see other guides too
[12:51] <Mamarok> admiral0: well, google for it then, I only know this one
[12:52] <admiral0> thank you
[12:52] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[13:18] <ivan_> kddl;'s
[13:24] <patarok> hello!
[13:25] <Me> hiho
[13:25] <hunter> can somebody help me please? i am trying to get access so my lib but now i am receiving failer messages like this: Permission denied. i have no idea anymore why but it wasnt few days be4. anyone an idea?
[13:26] <patarok> i have a problem... when i startup i can hear the startup sound but when i try to start amarok kde tells me that the audio devices dont work falling back to ... ???
[13:28] <vital> How can I see what graphics-driver is in use?
[14:01] <DarkTan> is there any way to log in to my other linux computer over my network from this one, with out being able to physcally access the target computer?
[14:03] <Pliskin> ssh ?
[14:03] <altrortla> #lamp
[14:04] <altrortla> #LAMP
[14:05] <altrortla> #mysql
[14:06] <Guest58772> hi all, can anybody help me, I cannot see any movie in kubuntu intrepid, I want to know what I have to download. If I use VLC it just closes after a second and Dragon player just has audio, no video
[14:07] <rachel_> hey can anybody help me?
[14:08] <DarkTan> hows does one use ssh?
[14:09] <rachel_>  hi all, can anybody help me, I cannot see any movie in kubuntu intrepid, I want to know what I have to download. If I use VLC it just closes after a second and Dragon player just has audio, no video
[14:17] <rachel_>  hi all, can anybody help me, I cannot see any movie in kubuntu intrepid, I want to know what I have to download. If I use VLC it just closes after a second and Dragon player just has audio, no video
[14:22] <quassel208> sudo dd if=PCBSD7.1-RC1-x64-USB.img of=/dev/sdb1 this command are i doing it good?
[14:22] <quassel208> To write the USB ISO file to a Flash Card or USB pen drive you can do this with the Unix command 'dd':
[14:22] <quassel208> dd if=<path_to/img_file.iso> of=/dev/da0 bs=1m
[14:38] <xray7224> hey can i use kde 3.5.10 on the new ubuntu ?
[14:39] <bazhang> xray7224, on intrepid?
[14:39] <xray7224> any
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> xray7224: you can compile it or find a PPA, there is a project for it
[14:39] <xray7224> ok
[14:40]  * xray7224 is tempted just to install gutsy
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> xray7224: install lxde and boot to that, lightweigtht DE with all the kde apps you love
[14:43] <xray7224> i hate lxde
[14:43] <xray7224> i might as well just run openbox :S
[14:43] <xray7224> or xmonad :P
[14:47] <xray7224> i think the new kde is ugly i just prefer the look of the old :S donno why but anyway
[14:55] <ralema56> hello
[14:59] <ralema56> i am fairly new to linux, i'm used to windows commands. when i type "ls" in console i get a list of directories but  when i try to change to one of the directories it says that it's not a valid directory. maybe somone who is bored could answer this :P
[15:00] <tsimpson> ralema56: does the directory contain spaces?
[15:01] <quassel208> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/148905/ why do I get the error here ?
[15:01] <ralema56> no
[15:01] <ralema56> i was just trying to "cd pictures"
[15:01] <tsimpson> ralema56: are you sure it's "pictures"? not "Pictures" ?
[15:02] <ralema56> oh capitals matters :P
[15:02] <tsimpson> linux is Case Sensitive
[15:02] <ralema56> gotcha ty
[15:02] <tsimpson> quassel208: you want either M or MB
[15:03] <tsimpson> MB = 1000*1000, M = 1024*1024
[15:03] <quassel208> oh okay
[15:03] <quassel208> so whats wrong ?
[15:04] <tsimpson> quassel208: 'm' is not 'M' or 'MB'
[15:04] <quassel208> can you paste the command how you think it would be ?
[15:05] <tsimpson> just change "bs=1m" to "bs=1M"
[15:05] <tsimpson> but you don't need bs if you're not using count
[15:06] <tsimpson> unless you want to optimise for speed/memory usage
[15:07] <libervisco> Is there a way to change the hardware temperature plasmoid to show celsius instead of F?
[15:08] <tsimpson> it should work off your locale, so change it form System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Other
[15:08] <quassel208> tsimpson thanks, I founded that command on pcbsd.org
[15:12] <GillesM> Hello I am testing 9.04 it seems slower than 8.10 ....
[15:16] <libervisco> tsimpson, thanks
[15:20] <underbiz> est zhivie?
[15:20] <underbiz> postavil kubuntu 9.04 beta
[15:20] <underbiz> ne mogy russkim yazikom pisat
[15:21] <underbiz> kakie to arabskie ieroglifi
[15:21] <underbiz> kto znaet 4to delat?
[15:21] <ubuntu> fr?
[15:22] <garthounet> la chaine fr
[15:22] <garthounet> chan fr?
[15:22] <garthounet> la chaine francaise s'il vous plait
[15:23]  * garthounet demande la chaine francaise
[15:23] <skrzat> underbiz: download language pack
[15:23] <underbiz> delal
[15:24] <underbiz> ne pomoglo
[15:25] <Metal> back
[15:26] <underbiz> do your speak english?
[15:27] <underbiz> or russian?
[15:27] <skrzat> both
[15:27] <tsimpson> !ru
[15:27] <underbiz> thnx
[15:27] <patarok> could somebody tell me why it is no more possible to open a login with ctrl+alt+f1 in kubuntu 9.04? i always get a black screen..
[15:28] <tsimpson> it's probably an issue with usplash, which you can disable by removing the word "splash" from the boot option in /etc/boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:29] <tsimpson> it's best to ask in #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support though
[15:31] <Stubenhocker_> hi!
[15:31] <GillesM> hi
[15:32] <Stubenhocker_> I've got a machine with Kubuntu 7.10 installed and I'm currently considering whether I should upgrade it to 8.04. Trouble is, the user of this machine is elderly and extremely picky about even smallest changes in the UI.
[15:33] <Stubenhocker_> I do not really know how to proceed with this. Any opinions?
[15:41] <GillesM> don't you feel 9.04 is a bit more slower ?
[15:42] <Aizawa> How do I change the keybind for krunner? alt+f2 isn't really easy to press, at least not to me
[15:54] <vmelo> Do you know where I can take Kubuntu 8.10-KDE3 image?
[15:58] <vmelo> I'm looking for the image (iso), for a while I found just the repositories
[16:01] <carpii__> ive not seen kde3 running reliably on 8.10
[16:02] <carpii__> its not a simple thing to downgrade
[16:02] <carpii__> youre better off using 8.04
[16:02] <carpii__> you could try these
[16:02] <carpii__> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/
[16:02] <carpii__> theres a live cd apparently
[16:03] <carpii__> i never had much luck with the repo's there
[16:03] <vmelo> carpii__: actually, I'm running 8.04 here, but it will be supported until october
[16:04] <carpii__> 8.04 is supported until april 2011
[16:04] <vmelo> carpii__: are you sure? the download page shows oct/09, I guess
[16:05] <jussi01> vmelo: 9.04 will have a kde3 release.
[16:06] <PodeCoet> are there any recommended spamfilters for kmail?
[16:06] <carpii__> jussi, thats good news :)
[16:06] <carpii__> i hated the way they just forced kde 4 on you
[16:06] <vmelo> jussi01, you mean the image too or just the repositories?
[16:06] <jussi01> vmelo: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[16:07] <vmelo> jussi01, this is great!
[16:08] <ramon> hi all, does anybody know why my amarok is not playing music, I mean there's no sound
[16:08] <ramon> !amarok
[16:08] <GillesM> I have some display problems on 9.04 sometime a part of screen is deleted
[16:10] <ramon> ????
[16:10] <jussi01> GillesM: 9.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[16:10] <GillesM> ok
[16:10] <GillesM> thanks
[16:10] <vmelo> carpii__, jussi01, thanks for your answers
[16:11] <ddevnul> guys, congratulations... kubuntu 9.04 still in beta, and it rocks! I can't wait for the official release ^^
[16:12] <ddevnul> qt is so much responsive than gtk, everything is better on kde :)
[16:13] <vmelo> how about i8x5 drivers? Is it already fixed?
[16:15] <ddevnul> dunno, envyng works great for me with NVIDIA and ATI cards
[16:15] <vmelo> I gave jaunty beta a try, but I just can run the live cd on safe mode
[16:15] <jaime> Hi, I just installed kubuntu 8.04.2 and my microphone works, but doesn't record or function with skype
[16:16] <vertago1> jaime are you using kde4 or 3?
[16:16] <jaime> In kmix or alsa-mixer I have tried everything, it's very weird, because the mic gives an output through my speakers
[16:16] <jaime> kde3
[16:16] <vertago1> ok good
[16:16] <vmelo> I have hardy running here and there is no trouble with skype
[16:16] <vertago1> skype doesn't work with kde4 until like 4.2
[16:17] <GARZA> I'm using Kubuntu 8.04.2, installed from the CD.
[16:17] <jussi01> vmelo: Ive heard that installing the 915 driver fixes the issue
[16:17] <vertago1> Garza have you looked in the settings to see if there are switches and chanels you arn't showing in kmix?
[16:18] <vertago1> *channels
[16:18] <GARZA> vertago1: I have tried everything, within kmix
[16:18] <GARZA> vertago1: all switches, and nothing
[16:19] <vertago1> well to keep the mic from outputing through your speakers you need to mute the mic on the kmix
[16:19] <vertago1> as an output
[16:19] <GARZA> vertago1: I don't get it, I have installed Ubuntu dozens of times, and never had this problem
[16:19] <vmelo> jussi01, that's good, I'm gonna give it a try again soon
[16:19] <GARZA> vertago1: Yes, that works, the problem ist that it doesn't record with krec or send sound with skype
[16:20] <jonatas> #goiania
[16:20] <ddevnul> cya dudes
[16:20] <ddevnul> lol br na parada
[16:20] <ddevnul> :)
[16:20] <GARZA> vertago1: And of course I have record on the mic activated through kmix
[16:21] <vertago1> GARZA are there input source switches on yours?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[16:25] <GARZA> vertago1: I have KDE 3.5.10
[16:26] <GARZA> vertago1: and the input source switches are on the mic, as I said, the Mic works, I can hear it on the speakers, but I'm not able to record or use skype with it, I don't know why
[16:26] <vertago1> GARZA what other switch options are there? some cards have a front mic too
[16:27] <GARZA> This has no front mic
[16:27] <vertago1> ok
[16:28] <BluesKaj> vertago1, the front mic is usually the onboard audio on the mobo
[16:28] <vertago1> alright
[16:30] <vertago1> not sure what to tell you GARZA, since you already can hear the mic over the speakers when you unmute it. If there is a record volume you might check that, or you might check the sound device selected in skype
[16:33] <GARZA> THanks anyway, I have tried everything already
[16:33] <GARZA> Cheers!
[16:34] <vertago1> alright
[16:35] <rachel_>  hi all, can anybody help me, I cannot see any movie in kubuntu intrepid, I want to know what I have to download. If I use VLC it just closes after a second and Dragon player just has audio, no video
[16:36] <mkasson> to go from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, is "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" all I have to do?
[16:36] <rachel_> mkasson : yes
[16:37] <mkasson> rachel_, thanks.  is the difference then just the presentation and usability of data?
[16:37] <mkasson> or is there more to it?
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[16:38] <mkasson> (I was having trouble when I installed the desktop having my two screens work and want to know if its worth the effort
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[16:38] <rachel_> mkasson : different applications, different usability
[16:38]  * gnomefreak way too slow
[16:39] <mkasson> gnomefreak, you mean the kick or kubuntu?
[16:39] <mkasson> or kde I guess
[16:39] <gnomefreak> to react to !ops
[16:39] <mkasson> gotcha
[16:40] <BluesKaj> fast enuff , once invoked
[16:49] <gayatri> hi guys
[16:49] <mkasson> does Kubuntu have problems with multi-montor any different than ubuntu?
[16:49] <gayatri> how do i run x-windows in ubuntu?
[16:49] <mkasson> *multi-monitor
[16:51] <mkasson> gayatri, perhaps try #ubuntu? more people? more active?
[16:52] <hallowname> gayatri: like from tty? 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' ?
[16:52] <hallowname> mkasson: all linux has problems with multi-monitor lol. problem being capitalism.
[16:52] <gayatri> thanks mkasson
[16:53] <mrksbrd> has anyone successfully tethered a blackberry to linux yet? every article I found hasn't worked
[16:56] <mkasson> hallowname, ummm capitalism?
[16:56] <mkasson> mrksbrd, meant to look that up today.
[16:56] <mkasson> you mean charging or syncing
[16:56] <mrksbrd> to use as modem
[16:57] <mkasson> ohhhhh.  no clue
[16:57] <hallowname> mkasson: money. companies dont pay for big linux multi-monitor setup guis for their drivers. nvidia is ok about it i guess. most dont give a piss about linux. bc it doesnt make them money.
[16:57] <mrksbrd> there was 2 out there I found, but kicks back an error & then disc after about 30 secs
[16:58] <mkasson> hallowname, well, it works for me under Ubuntu.  I tried for about 1 hr last night to get it working w/K but no luck
[16:58] <mkasson> it uses the second monitor if I move an app there, but no desktop background or desktop activities (right click)
[16:58] <hallowname> mrksbrd: i did that once on my ex's blackberry. like 6months ago. dont remember any issues. keep googlen.
[16:59] <mrksbrd> mkasson: http://www.blackberryforums.com/linux-users-corner/182834-verizon-tethering-ubuntu-working.html
[16:59] <hallowname> mkasson: ah, kde is Xinerama multiscreen only i heard. never had more than one monitor at once
[16:59] <mrksbrd> hallow i don't know enough about the script files files yet
[16:59] <hallowname> mkasson: dunno anything about that stuff
[17:00] <hallowname> mrksbrd: learn :D what dont you know? ask someone
[17:00] <mrksbrd> it gives me a -f switch error, but fully recognizes it
[17:02] <mrksbrd> hallowname: look @ that link I posted, i put it up on the forum....it's the last one....you will see the -f error
[17:02] <mkasson> mrksbrd, cool, but I actually just need to charge my BB.  Need the USB 2 handshake voltage increase
[17:03] <mrksbrd> if u get it to recognize thru usb, shouldn't need voltage increase, under windows it charges just fine
[17:04] <mkasson> windows does the voltage bump
[17:04] <mkasson> (perhaps because it recognizes?)
[17:04] <hallowname> mrksbrd: the file conf/verizon obviously is passing pppd the -f switch that your version doesnt suppport. change the conf/verizon file.
[17:05] <hallowname> mrksbrd: or match pppd versions with the bbthether's author
[17:05] <thepizzanator> Hey, I need a program to modify Grub so that XP is the default operating system. I know there's one for Gnome with a nice GUI that lets you mess around with GRUB, change the theme of grub, stuff like that, anyone know what it's called??
[17:05] <thepizzanator> I'm going to be AFK so if you could PM me the name that would be great :)
[17:05] <mrksbrd> hallowname: that's what i don't know how to change.....lol
[17:06] <shock_day13> hey everyone
[17:06] <jackcy> Excuse me, I am trying to build kitzchensync with the latest availabe svn code. Somehow cmake does not recognize the KDE4_ADD_LIBRARY. I even installed and reinstalled kdelibs5-dev and cmake but no success. Can you give me a hint?
[17:08] <mrksbrd> mkasson: i think i have a link....hold on
[17:08] <hallowname> mrksbrd: um 'nano -w /path/to/bbtether/conf/verizon' ?
[17:13] <mrksbrd> what is nano & the -w switch
[17:14] <mrksbrd> sorry for my newbieness with it...lol
[17:15] <Unksi> mrksbrd: disables line wrapping
[17:15] <mrksbrd> mkmasson: u have bluetooth in puter?
[17:15] <mrksbrd> k
[17:16] <mrksbrd> let me try
[17:16] <mrksbrd> ty
[17:16] <jackcy> Excuse me, I am trying to build kitzchensync with the latest availabe svn code. Somehow cmake does not recognize the KDE4_ADD_LIBRARY. I even installed and reinstalled kdelibs5-dev and cmake but no success. Can anyone give me a hint? Using jaunty 9.04 with latest updates and could not find anything on the web.
[17:24] <mkasson> mrksbrd, nope  no BT
[17:25] <|PaperTiger|> Why does my second monitor work for a while, then when I boot up a few days later, not work?
[17:25] <mkasson> |PaperTiger|, what method you using to use 2nd mon?
[17:26] <|PaperTiger|> mkasson, Catalyst Control Centre
[17:26] <mkasson> (1) see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 (2) hallowname says Xinerama only works in Kubuntu (if I read him right)
[17:27] <|PaperTiger|> Thank you :)
[17:28] <mkasson> |PaperTiger|, I'm working on same, so please post what you do.
[17:28] <|PaperTiger|> mkasson, if I get it to work and STAY working, I shall.
[17:29] <|PaperTiger|> mkasson, this happens all the time. It works for a while, then suddenly doesn't..
[17:29] <mkasson> |PaperTiger|, under Kubuntu only or Ubuntu also?
[17:30] <mkasson> FYI w/ my hardware I seem to be OK w/Ubuntu
[17:30] <mkasson> well at least for the few days I've been doing it
[17:30] <|PaperTiger|> mkasson, Kubuntu
[17:31] <|PaperTiger|> With Ubuntu, I was fine, but I decided to move to Kubuntu when I reinstalled.
[17:34] <devilsadvocate> hi, i have a dvd in a format called .img . what/how should i do with it? (i want to play the file, not burn it onto a disc)
[17:37] <trappist> devilsadvocate: what does this say: file filename.img
[17:38] <devilsadvocate> trappist, UDF filesystem data (version 1.5)
[17:38] <devilsadvocate> so mount -o loop worked on it, and now i have this Video_ts and audio_ts folers
[17:39] <trappist> yeah you should be able to play the vob files with, say, mplayer
[17:39] <trappist> or you may be able to do like mplayer /dev/loop0
[17:39] <devilsadvocate> is there some dvd player like software that will take care of all of that?
[17:39] <trappist> the loopback device the fs is mounted on
[17:40] <trappist> try mplayer, xine, etc. on the loopback device
[17:40] <devilsadvocate> hm, ok
[17:41] <devilsadvocate> trappist, yay. that worked. awesome
[17:42] <jackcy> doest anyone know how to tell cmake how to find KDE4_ADD_LIBRARY?
[17:47] <mrksbrd> hallowname: still here?
[17:47] <ralema56> anyone know why when i play media, it cuts out, like lag? normal? sorry newb question
[17:48] <mrksbrd> ralema56: might not have all of the codecs it needs installed.  what prog u using?
[17:49] <Guest44161> test
[17:50] <trappist> Guest44161: test passed
[17:51] <ralema56> Rhythmbox 0.11.6
[17:51] <mrksbrd> for audio or video?
[17:51] <ralema56> it plays the songs, it just randomly cuts out like its buffering
[17:51] <ralema56> audio
[17:52] <ralema56> same thing with playing videos on youtube though, even though it has buffered way ahead it still hicups
[17:52] <mrksbrd> did u try installing another app to see if it does it w/that as well?
[17:52] <mrksbrd> like mplayer or vlc
[17:52] <ralema56> yeah same thing on amorak
[17:53] <mrksbrd> hhhmmmm
[17:53] <ralema56> amarok*
[17:53] <mrksbrd> hallowname: u still here?
[17:54] <mrksbrd> not sure w/audio....i know w/video could depend on player being used, but if your getting it w/anyone u use i don't know
[17:56] <mrksbrd> mkasson: u still here?
[17:57] <jackcy> ralema56, you could try to disable audio output for notifications in the system settings (second tab - no audio output). could probably help/worth a try.
[18:01] <mrksbrd> anyone had success on using blackberry as modem thru linix?
[18:12] <ralema56> trying it
[18:15] <ralema56> still cuts out
[18:15] <ralema56> maybe the system i am running is just slow
[18:15] <ralema56> moving windows around lags a lil even :P
[18:37] <postman> hello
[18:37] <dario> hello
[18:38] <dario> i'm new of here...
[18:38] <dario> i'm italian...where are you?
[18:41] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> hi whats the difference between fedora 10 kde and kubuntu?
[18:41] <dario> who the difference?
[18:43] <Dragnslcr> sdfasdfasdfsadf- Red Hat and Ubuntu are completely separate distributions
[18:43] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> really?
[18:43] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> awesomeness
[18:44] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> now seriously, does kubuntu has all those magic wizars ubuntu claim to have?
[18:44] <Mugen> is here anybody using Konversation? (how can I import a "server list" or something?)
[18:45] <hua> can someone help me with a technical support issue regarding my internet browzer?
[18:45] <Dragnslcr> Mugen- dunno if you can through the GUI, though you can probably edit the config file directly if you want
[18:46] <Unksi> hua: just ask the problem and people will help you if they can :)
[18:46] <Mugen> ah, thanks
[18:47] <dario> ei
[18:47] <hua> I am watching a movie on the internet and halfway through my movie the browzer automatically closes or it will stop playing...what could be the problem?
[18:47] <dario> c'è qualche ragazzo/a italiano???
[18:47] <Unksi> hua: is it a flash movie?
[18:48] <hua> yes... i think it is..
[18:48] <Dragnslcr> !it | dario
[18:48] <dario> grazie mille
[18:48] <Unksi> hmm.. have you tried to scroll through to the other half, or to the middle to continue? how does it act on that?
[18:49] <jose> hello
[18:49] <hua> Yes i have tried that... but it doesn
[18:49] <hua> it didn
[18:49] <hua> it didnt help
[18:49] <jose> hello how r u?
[18:49] <Unksi> ok, does it work well on other flash content?
[18:51] <hua> It was working well up to now.... and is just encountering this issue...
[18:51] <Unksi> ok
[18:51] <Unksi> can you give me a link to the site with that flash so i can have a try if it works here or not?
[18:52] <Dragnslcr> Mugen- in ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc there are [Server N] and [ServerGroup N] blocks
[18:52] <hua> I can but you have to promise not to judge why I am watching a silly drama..:)
[18:52] <Unksi> heh i wont :p its about the bug not that anyway
[18:52] <Mugen> ah, thx
[18:53] <hua> http://www.mysoju.com/my-lucky-star/episode-15/part-4/
[18:54] <hua> that is the link
[18:55] <Unksi> lets see
[18:55] <Unksi> it let me to scroll to the latter half at least
[18:56] <future_> Ahoi  all
[18:57] <Unksi> hua: works well from 8 minutes to 10 minutes.. is that where it crashes for you?
[18:57] <hua> yes...
[18:57] <Unksi> which browser are you using?
[18:58] <hua> i believe it is moxizilla
[18:58] <Unksi> firefox?
[18:58] <hua> yes/..
[18:58] <Unksi> ok
[18:59] <Unksi> can you try launching firefox from konsole with firefox --ProfileManager and then creating a new profile and trying to watch it there?
[19:00] <hua> im sorry... i do
[19:00] <hua> i dont understand
[19:00] <Unksi> ok
[19:00] <Unksi> press alt+f2 and write firefox --ProfileManager there
[19:00] <Unksi> and press enter
[19:00] <hua> can you help me step by step?
[19:01] <Unksi> you should get a window where you can create a new profile to firefox, do that and then go to that site and see if it still does the same
[19:03] <moriancumer> How do I install new kde4 themes?
[19:04] <hua> do i press alt+f2 while  on the browser window?
[19:04] <Unksi> no, when it is closed
[19:04] <Unksi> you have kde4, right?
[19:12] <m_tadeu_> hi all
[19:13] <m_tadeu_> is there an app so that I can test my micrphone?
[19:13] <Unksi> you could try audio recording with audacity
[19:13] <m_tadeu_> thanks :)
[19:13] <Unksi> youre welcome :)
[19:16] <m_tadeu_> so my microphones are not working....what can I do?
[19:19] <hua> thank you unksi... though it did
[19:19] <hua> it didnt work though
[19:19] <hua> hava a great day!!
[19:20] <Unksi> hua: ok, you too
[19:20] <dario> #ubuntu-it
[19:29] <lun4tic> hi
[19:29] <lun4tic> is there any way to get jaunty kubuntu beta working persistent from usb drive
[19:29] <lun4tic> ?
[19:29] <m_tadeu_> is there a problem with thins line in a config file?
[19:29] <m_tadeu_> DeviceName[3]=Wireless Mic #121009338  : USB Audio (hw:1,0)
[19:29] <lun4tic> cause mine doesn't save anything at all
[19:30] <m_tadeu_> lun4tic: you have 2 partitions I guess....one of them called "persistent" or something like that
[19:30] <lun4tic> i made a casper-rw file in the "casper" directory of the usb stick and even tried to change the initrd.gz "init" file by adding persistent boot option with variable names
[19:31] <lun4tic> one is called casper-cow
[19:31] <lun4tic> ext3
[19:31] <lun4tic> the other is fat and contains the live cd files copied by usb-creator
[19:33] <lun4tic> so it doesn't accept ext3 image files made with dd and mkfs.ext3 and doesn't use the available ext3 partition
[19:35] <m_tadeu_> DeviceName[3]=Wireless Mic #121009338  : USB Audio (hw:1,0)
[19:36] <m_tadeu_> shouldn't I have to set an escape char before the #?
[19:36] <m_tadeu_> that is from a config file
[19:37] <charles> does anyone know how to modify an iso file?
[19:38] <charles> i need to add wifi drivers
[19:38] <charles> to the ubuntu 9.04 iso and still keep it bootable
[19:41] <jussi01> !uck | charles
[19:42] <mrksbrd> genii: u here?
[19:42] <charles> ??
[19:43] <charles> oh thank you
[19:43] <charles> can i use sudo apt-get install !uck  ??
[19:45]  * mrksbrd summons genii for some help
[19:46] <charles> where can i get uck?
[19:46] <charles> i looked in synaptic and add remove  i cant find it
[19:46] <mrksbrd> charles: just follow the link it has a .deb file on soundforge
[19:48] <mrksbrd> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=169959&package_id=193837&release_id=658550
[19:49] <mrksbrd> anyone good @ modding pppd files?
[19:49] <slow-motion> hi
[19:51] <flucksbawks> hi all
[19:52] <BigMack83_> how could i use dolphin to connect to my server which has an authentication key? or is it possible with dolphin. if not is there a recommended program for sftp with a gui?
[19:53] <mrksbrd> BluesKaj: you avail?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> yeah, just got back
[19:54] <mrksbrd> u any good with pppd scripts?
[19:54] <mrksbrd> one error in mine & i can't figure it out
[19:54] <mkasson> mrksbrd, back now
[19:54] <BluesKaj> pppd ? nope
[19:55] <mrksbrd> k
[19:55] <mrksbrd> :(
[19:55] <mkasson> still no luck I see.  sorry to read
[19:55] <mrksbrd> nope
[19:56] <mrksbrd> i have a sudo line that should get your usb working @ least to charge
[19:56] <BluesKaj> what is a ppd script anyway , don't think I've heard of it
[19:56] <BluesKaj> err pppd
[19:56] <mrksbrd> what i am trying to do is use blackberry as a modem
[19:57] <mrksbrd> found everything i needed, but it gives me a -f switch error
[19:59] <ikonia> mrksbrd: blackberry's have  propriatary cable/bluetooth stack
[20:00] <mrksbrd> mkasson: sudo apt-get install python libusb-dev ppp python-usb ........try that......should work @ least to charge
[20:00] <mrksbrd> ikonia: meaning?
[20:00] <mkasson> cool.  will give it a shot.  in middle of xorg.conf editing :/
[20:00] <ikonia> mrksbrd: you need to use a project called "john something" - it's very early and quite beta but it can work
[20:01] <BigMack83_> can anyone recommend a gui client to connect to my server for sftp with a server that has an authentication key
[20:01] <mrksbrd> ok so all the inst out there are bogus?
[20:02] <mrksbrd> i just can't imagine it being any harder/different than using a reg aircard
[20:04] <mrksbrd> if i can get KPPP to recognize the /dev/pts/2 i think i might be able to get it to work
[20:05] <mrksbrd> all this manual configing is driving me nuts
[20:06] <mkasson> anyone know xorg.conf for  Xinerama?
[20:06] <mkasson> my normal has no ServerLayout it appears
[20:07] <mrksbrd> ikonia: if u don't mind check this link out and look @ the -f line....this is what is messing me up.......  http://www.blackberryforums.com/linux-users-corner/182834-verizon-tethering-ubuntu-working.html
[20:09] <ikonia> mrksbrd: I'll certainly read that now
[20:10] <mrksbrd> ty
[20:10] <Viincent> sera a tutti
[20:11] <mrksbrd> !it | Viincent
[20:12] <ikonia> mrksbrd: my cut thought on that is it's not going to work on non-verizon blackberry's but I've never used that product or heard about it, so I don't know
[20:13] <mrksbrd> but i have verizon....let me pastebin what it kicks back to me
[20:14] <mrksbrd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/149065/
[20:16] <ikonia> mrksbrd: ok - so the config file has an option -f that is not known to that application
[20:20] <mrksbrd> ikonia: yup exactly
[20:21] <ikonia> mrksbrd: remove the -f ?
[20:21] <mrksbrd> already tried
[20:21] <mrksbrd> thats what i can't figure out
[20:24] <mkasson> mrksbrd, FYI doesn't seem to do the voltage increase
[20:24] <mkasson> at least according to the BB
[20:24] <mrksbrd> mine charges fine.....have it plugged in now
[20:25] <mkasson> and I guess you didn't get that message about not enough voltage like I did
[20:25] <mrksbrd> lol.....nope
[20:25] <mkasson> ah well.  you install much else?
[20:26] <mrksbrd> just one other line.....but don't think it would matter......let me ask u this u have usb 1.1 or 2.0?
[20:26] <mkasson> 2.0
[20:26] <mrksbrd> hold on
[20:26] <mkasson> err, you meaan on the pc or BB?>
[20:27] <mrksbrd> pc
[20:27] <Laeborg> !webmin
[20:28] <mkasson> k, yeah 2.0.  its a pretty new PC
[20:28] <mrksbrd> k
[20:28] <Laeborg> !ebox
[20:28] <mrksbrd> sudo apt-get install python-wxgtk2.8
[20:29] <mrksbrd> ikonia: have u tried setting it up thru bluetooth?
[20:29] <mkasson> sure, another 55MB to get my blackberry to charge.  why not? ;)
[20:29] <mrksbrd> lol
[20:29] <mrksbrd> hopefully
[20:30] <mkasson> ha, but it does!
[20:30] <mkasson> is that gtk?
[20:30] <mkasson> and why the heck would gtk make it work
[20:30] <mrksbrd> thats what i said....didn't think it would matter much
[20:30] <mrksbrd> just running u thru the steps
[20:31] <mrksbrd> one of them worked when i did it
[20:31] <mrksbrd> just wish i could get modem working.....i could care less about charging right now LMAO
[20:32] <DanDan> can anyone help  me . im having an Xorg server problem
[20:32] <DanDan> and im not an expert
[20:33] <ikonia> mrksbrd: when I had a blackberry bold I had a lot of problems due to the propriatary stack
[20:33] <DanDan> anyone
[20:34] <mrksbrd> UUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[20:35] <mrksbrd> if windows can do it I KNOW DEEP IN MY HEART LINUX WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT BETTER....lol
[20:35] <cspack> sounds like it's more an error in the chat script than the phone
[20:35] <DanDan> so no one can help me with the XORG problem ive been having for a month now :(
[20:35] <mrksbrd> well i'll paste the chat script for ya if u can help
[20:36] <cspack> i'll take a look, used it with a cellphone at one time
[20:36] <mrksbrd> DANDAN: just ask the ?
[20:37] <DanDan> mrksbrd :  I was updating my 8.04 as usuall .. and when I restarted i got this error msg saying that COuldnt start X server ..
[20:37] <DanDan> afterwards when i try to log in to Gnome .. The wallpaper loads but the screen gets white and gts me back to the login screen again as I can only access KDE ..
[20:37] <DanDan>  another thing I noticed .. I was at synaptic checking the xorg files .. there was an upgrade but i couldnt upgrade as an xinput couldnt be installed "thats the error msg im getting"
[20:37] <mrksbrd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/149084/
[20:39] <cspack> mrksbrd can you paste the calling script with the chat -f command?
[20:39] <mrksbrd> yea one sec
[20:40] <mrksbrd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/149085/
[20:42] <mrksbrd> DANDAN: sorry on that one, i'm not to good w/editing xorg
[20:42] <DanDan> mrksbrd : Thanks for the response anyways :)
[20:42] <mrksbrd> just stay in the room i'm sure someone will be able to help
[20:44] <cspack> mrksbrd: i don't know, syntax looks ok, what happens if you type /usr/bin/chat -f in konsole, that's seems to be where it's complaining
[20:45] <mrksbrd> let me post what terminal spits back out when i run the command
[20:48] <mrksbrd> cspack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/149093/
[20:49] <mrksbrd> it's doing what it needs to up until that point
[20:49] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[20:50] <mrksbrd> hey Action!!
[20:51] <MTecknology> Could somebody go to http://sd.ubuntu-us.org with konqueror and tell me if the site looks ok?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip1> MTecknology: not got konqueror dude, if no one replys soon i'll install it quickly
[20:52] <ActionParsnip1> give it a few mins
[20:52] <MTecknology> :)
[20:53] <MTecknology> I found someone - thanks though :)
[20:53] <mrksbrd> MT, left side text is cut off, "go" button in red but also has standard text over it as well
[20:54] <MTecknology> mrksbrd: does it look like this? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25255712/screenshot.png
[20:54] <mrksbrd> exactly
[20:55] <MTecknology> :(
[20:55] <mrksbrd> looks great other wise
[20:56] <MTecknology> that really sucks :(
[20:56] <ActionParsnip1> weird
[20:56] <mkasson> This is nice.  System Settings, Display causes System Settings to crash
[20:56] <mrksbrd> cspack: any ideas?
[20:56] <MTecknology> I don't know why it will work in every single other thing, but not konqueror
[20:56] <mrksbrd> standard might be different
[20:56] <mrksbrd> from mozzilla
[20:56] <patarok> hello
[20:57] <mrksbrd> let me check it in firefox
[20:57] <patarok> could somebody tell me the channel for jaunty?
[20:57] <patarok> something with +1?
[20:57] <mkasson> patarok, I think it was something like #ubuntu+1
[20:57] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty
[20:58] <mrksbrd> WOW !!!!!......much different in firefox
[20:58] <ActionParsnip1> mrksbrd: looked ok in opera too
[20:59] <MTecknology> mrksbrd: you like it in firefox? :)
[20:59] <mrksbrd> very good job i'd say
[20:59] <MTecknology> thanks
[20:59] <mrksbrd> wanna build a site for me?
[21:00] <MTecknology> does ok in IE6,7,8, firefox, any gecko browser, a few other browsers...
[21:00] <mrksbrd> i hate when i can't figure out how to get something to work on here
[21:00] <MTecknology> but not konqueror
[21:01] <MTecknology> what kind of site do you want?
[21:01] <mrksbrd> yea i would say standard is different
[21:01] <peterhil> MTecknology: The site looked ok in Safari too, so it must be a problem with some Konqueror rendereing bug
[21:01] <MTecknology> can I blame it on konqueror? :)
[21:01] <mrksbrd> MTecknology: photography
[21:02] <MTecknology> so you want a pretty theme and a gallery?
[21:02] <mrksbrd> i'll PM u
[21:02] <patarok> has anybody an idea what the reason could be that elisa wont start anymore?
[21:02] <MTecknology> it's ok - Drupal can probably do everything you want pretty easily
[21:02] <peterhil> Maybe. Of course it would be nice that sites would work on Konq too...
[21:02] <peterhil> :-)
[21:04] <peaches> which site
[21:09] <mrksbrd> ActionParsnip1: still there?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip1> aye
[21:09] <ActionParsnip1> sup?
[21:09] <loco> hello loco
[21:10] <malibu> ok I am used to ubuntu.. my first time with kubuntu.. How do I change to a static address?  I opened up the 'globe' in the toolbar, created a connection called eth0 and gave it the address but it's not taking??
[21:10] <mrksbrd> just trying to get this damn dialer to work
[21:11] <mrksbrd> i'm running out of ideas here
[21:11] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: you can edit /etc/network/interfaces  to set static ip, the app will then be useless, you will have to set dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:11] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: really?  wow.. ok
[21:11] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: Why have the app then?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: its good for people who dont like editting config files even though its not that hard. its also handy if you roa between multiple LANs
[21:13] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: but you just said I had to edit the config file anyway..
[21:14] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: if you populate that file your system will boot marginally faster as it will not wait for dhcp to complete
[21:14] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: i never said you HAD TO. I said you COULD
[21:14] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: Oh
[21:14] <malibu> Oh.. sorry.. I thought you said the app WAS useless, not 'will then' be useless
[21:15] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: if you populate the file, it will supercede any settings in the app
[21:15] <malibu> arg, now I need to hunt down the format for the file
[21:16] <paolo> ciao
[21:17] <malibu> what's the deal with the shaded pad on the desktop?
[21:18] <Rif> hi everybody.. n thanks for ubuntu team!! great system
[21:18] <cspack> mrksbrd: not really, only thing i can think to try is use single-quotes around connect “/usr/sbin/chat -f conf/verizon-chat”
[21:19] <cspack> -f is defintely a valid option for the chat command
[21:19] <mrksbrd> k
[21:19] <mrksbrd> ty
[21:19] <cspack> wish i had a blackberry to test it myself :)
[21:20] <mrksbrd> i don't know what else to do
[21:21] <mrksbrd> guess i'll have to see if the creator will ever get back to me to figure it out
[21:21] <cspack> might want to send your log file to the author's email address tcolar@colar.net
[21:21] <mrksbrd> it's like giving a kid a blow pop....letting him get all the way down to the gum ...then taking it away......lol
[21:22] <cspack> lol
[21:22] <mrksbrd> yea sounds like it....thanks again for trying
[21:24] <Rif> hello i have a problem on my laptop, KDE desktop doesn't open and gives this ERROR, "kinit no resume image, doing normal boot...
[21:24] <sigma_za> hey guys, how do i get kopete to make a sound when i get a message on msn?
[21:25] <Rif> /whois $me
[21:26] <Rif> hello i have a problem on my laptop, KDE desktop doesn't open and gives this ERROR, "kinit no resume image, doing normal boot...
[21:27] <jon_> hello world!
[21:28] <mrksbrd> cspack: i changed the quotes like u said.....worked a little differently.....but still gave this error ......
[21:28] <mrksbrd> Failed finding end of line(timeout) for:
[21:28] <mrksbrd> Error: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:29] <mrksbrd> the -f line i guess is valid now
[21:30] <mrksbrd> wonder if it is talking about the port it is trying to use !!!!!
[21:31] <cspack> hmm could be
[21:33] <try> русские есть? :)
[21:33] <mrksbrd> uuuuuuhhhhhgggggg
[21:33] <pba> try: 1
[21:33] <malibu> does anyone know why my tightvnc server keeps dying with kde?  It's always worked fine with gnome.....
[21:34] <mrksbrd> i can get a regular aircard to work using an express slot VERY easily, using KPPP, but this is racking my brain
[21:35] <malibu> BAH.. I'm switching back to ubuntu..
[21:35] <jonem> no!
[21:35] <ActionParsnip1> vnc sucks hard
[21:36] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: What other methods are there to connect to headless servers?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: ssh
[21:36] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: servers imho should NOT have X servers running
[21:36] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: yeah I might be able to handle that but my wife cant
[21:36] <pba> hi, i have 2 pc (one with 2 lan) and adsl router which is connected to my isp as router. how to make possible that my 2 pc will be connected together and it will be able to reach internet from both of them. any man will be good. thx and sry 4 my eng
[21:36] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: Well it's not a server.. it's my PC that runs KVM..
[21:36] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: why is she accessing a headless system?
[21:36] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: In this case Kubuntu is a guest
[21:37] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: I'm not sure how to even answer that... cuz there is crap she doesn't want to execute on her laptop?
[21:38] <malibu> Anyway, KDE isn't working with vnc for me
[21:38] <malibu> And I need it to
[21:38] <malibu> I'm not interfacing with my PC solely with ssh
[21:38] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: if it works dont fix it, i use forwarded x server and ssh for remote admin
[21:39] <pba> can somebody help me with nettwork?
[21:39] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: That doesn't work for me
[21:40] <Rif> how can i run Kubuntu installation from my dvdrom from the command line?
[21:40] <malibu> Anyway, if I say X needs to work don't recommend Y.. Help me with X
[21:41] <ActionParsnip1> malibu: then if gnome works then stick with that
[21:41] <malibu> ActionParsnip1: ok.. that's cool.  thanks
[21:46] <manpoole> so can someone help me out with connecting to a secured wpa wireless network and then disconnecting every minute? when the unsecured network stays connected?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip1> !wpa
[21:48] <ali_> hi guys
[22:01] <doleyb> malibu: Are you aware of the -X feature of ssh?
[22:05] <xiqxxx> hi
[22:06] <Alistrone> hi
[22:07] <xiqxxx> is there a way to install linux from hd to ram to hd? i dont have disc or cd burner :(
[22:08] <marwan_> how can i configure ruby apache and mysql on Ubuntu ? please who can help ?
[22:10] <cspack> xiqxxx: you can install it from a usb flash drive
[22:10] <marwan_> can some one help ?
[22:11] <xiqxxx> cspack i only have a really fat usbstick, blocks all usb pots
[22:14] <ActionParsnip1> !lamp
[22:14] <ActionParsnip1> !usb | xiqxxx
[22:17] <|PaperTiger|> I was wondering, could people comment on this laptop for me? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147757
[22:17] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | |PaperTiger|
[22:18] <|PaperTiger|> ActionParsnip1, sorry.
[22:19] <xiqxxx> |PaperTiger| the price i like :)
[22:28] <ActionParsnip1> shame its an ati card
[22:28] <slow-motion> bye
[22:46] <Raptor-Jesus> I installed a new compiz theme, but how do i add it?
[22:48] <Raptor-Jesus> !info themes
[22:50] <ActionParsnip1> Raptor-Jesus: i'd ask in #compiz
[22:56] <Raptor-Jesus> !info gtk2
[22:57] <cspack> is it an emerald theme?
[23:00] <psyco> hey, is there a way to disable a taskbar on one of my desktops? (8.10 kubuntu with compiz)
[23:03] <jseabold> Hello all, I am strongly considering switching from opensuse to ubuntu for its better support of scientific computing.  The thing is I love what's going on with KDE 4.
[23:04] <jseabold> I realize that the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu but I just the desktop environment, but I just want to make sure that's the only difference.  Packages for ubuntue work on kubuntu, there aren't any big compiler issues, etc.?
[23:04] <jseabold> Is it fair to say that this is the case
[23:09] <dsl5715> i have serious problems =/
[23:28] <slerder> Hey guys I have a truecrypt volume (an entire partition) and it doesnt show up in ubuntu "Computer" where all the rest of the drives are. Howver when I made a new partition and then encrypted it with truecrypt this one does show up in ubuntu and windows. Any idea on how to make the partition not show up anywhere? thanks
[23:29] <ramon> hi everybody...so i can't hear nothing here in my Kubuntu 8.04
[23:30] <ramon> anybody?
[23:38] <Zirg> Hey Gang. Attempted to update LTS to LTS (via the net) and am having major difficulties. Can someone look at this paste with me and suggest a way to overcome these dependency failures??    http://rafb.net/p/au0GRS14.html
[23:38] <Zirg> and...
[23:38] <Zirg> what does the error     cannot configure (current status `config-files')    mean to me? is it trying to tell me that some config files needs handled, somewhere? (no curses windows are open)
[23:40] <tsimpson> Zirg: try sudo apt-get -f install
[23:40] <Zirg> tsimpson, "Been There, Done That, Got the T-Shirt" and to no avail.
[23:40] <ramon> Does anybody know why do my Kubuntu 8.04 after upgrade has no sound?
[23:40] <Zirg> tsimpson, wanna see the pastebin of that?
[23:41] <tsimpson> sure
[23:41] <acr0nym> hi
[23:41] <acr0nym> how do I install kde themes
[23:41] <acr0nym> google isn't helping out, I have the tar.gz file
[23:42] <Zirg> tsimpson, http://rafb.net/p/lnwYcI32.html
[23:42] <chester> Please keep talking, I a, starting to learn something
[23:44] <tsimpson> Zirg: it looks like it's a mix of debian and ubuntu
[23:44] <ramon> anybody???
[23:44] <tsimpson> "libxfixes-dev: Depends: libxfixes3 (= 1:3.0.1.2-0ubuntu3) but 1:4.0.3-2 is installed" <- for instance
[23:45] <tsimpson> unless you mean upgrading to jaunty
[23:45] <Zirg> tsimpson, yeah. i'm aware and i've just followed the instructions from the users in this and #Ubuntu to upgrade LTS to LTS.
[23:45] <tsimpson> hmm
[23:46] <gorgonizer> acr0nym: you should be able to add the new theme via System Settings -> Icons I believe, but have never done so myself..
[23:46] <Zirg> tsimpson, 6.06.2 LTS to 8.04 LTS was what I have been TRYING to do.
[23:46] <ActionParsnip1> !upgrade
[23:47] <tsimpson> !info libxfixes3 hardy
[23:47] <tsimpson> ok, so that's a hardy package, just not "ubufied"
[23:48] <Zirg> tsimpson, okay... (i guess) so where to, from here?
[23:48] <tsimpson> Zirg: what output does "sudo apt-get install xset" show?
[23:48] <Zirg> tsimpson, I'm big time afeared to power this thing off!
[23:48] <tsimpson> trying to install each failing package may show more info
[23:48] <Zirg> tsimpson, it'll toss up a bunch of depend errors. want me to pastebin 'em or /msg 'em to you?
[23:49] <tsimpson> pastebin
[23:49] <acr0nym> gorgonizer, there isn't an icons option. Only appearance, but there I have to add everything manually
[23:49] <acr0nym> no one an idea on how to install themes?
[23:49] <Zirg> tsimpson, hmm. in this case, it didn't. may i pm three lines to you?
[23:50] <tsimpson> if it's short, my client "ping"s when I get a message ;)
[23:50] <gorgonizer> acr0nym: apologies.. I have been drinking today for the first time in 5 years... but in Appearance there should be an Icons subset.. from which there is an option to install a Theme file...
[23:50] <Zirg> tsimpson, OUCH! I lied to ya. :-(  It was six lines. Sorry!
[23:50]  * Zirg hangs his head, in shame.
[23:52] <tsimpson> Zirg: try installing x11-xserver-utils then?
[23:52] <Zirg> tsimpson, explosion.  http://rafb.net/p/SAPoGx71.html
[23:54] <tsimpson> how about installing xutils
[23:54] <acr0nym> gorgonizer, it seems that I can only add icons in there
[23:54] <acr0nym> the theme I downloaded has a lot more stuff like widgets etc
[23:55] <gorgonizer> acr0nym: ahhh, then in that case, I am unsure.. there must be an easy way to do it, but for the life of me I don't seem to be able to find it...
[23:55] <bcoelho2000> hi everybody!
[23:55] <acr0nym> me niether lol
[23:55] <Zirg> tsimpson, smaller explosion, but...  http://rafb.net/p/jNOXcO80.html
[23:58] <tsimpson> Zirg: move on to xset now
[23:59] <Zirg> tsimpson, that's the error i pm'd you earlier. same thing.