| nicoInattendu | Ok , I undestand now . | 00:00 |
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| savvas | and the person asking the merge is notified that it was merged | 00:00 |
| savvas | I guess merging sometimes can't be simple :) | 00:00 |
| nicoInattendu | Thanks for the help. I try the merge to find a way to corretcly organiseand schedile my code dev. | 00:03 |
| wgrant | There are solutions like tarmac that look at the merge proposals and automatically merge branches. | 00:03 |
| wgrant | But most projects that use Launchpad merge proposals just use them for tracking. | 00:03 |
| wgrant | (at this point, at least) | 00:03 |
| nicoInattendu | I gi to take a look on tarmac | 00:07 |
| nicoInattendu | F..., I do a mistake :'(. It is possible to revert a push ? After my merge on trunk I do a push , wihtout paramters :-(, and the result orf merge was pushed in the dev branch instead of trunk. And I see no more my commits on dev branch. | 00:13 |
| wgrant | nicoInattendu: You can just push an old copy of the branch (you might need to use push --overwrite). | 00:14 |
| savvas | I think you can bzr uncommit | 00:14 |
| savvas | but I've never tried that | 00:15 |
| wgrant | You can, but that might not be what's wanted here. | 00:15 |
| nicoInattendu | wgrant : thanks for the push --overwrite , It put my branch just as I wan't. I promise, to never, never do a push or pull without paramters. It's evil :) | 00:19 |
| savvas | I do bzr push :P | 00:20 |
| savvas | use --remember to remember the last address you've sent it to | 00:21 |
| wgrant | nicoInattendu: If dev had diverged from trunk, the original push would have failed, so in most cases you can't do bad things like that. | 00:21 |
| nicoInattendu | Ok | 00:22 |
| mthaddon | nicoInattendu: bzr info will tell you what bzr push and pull locations are defined if you're unsure | 00:24 |
| nicoInattendu | Thanks ans how I can update the bzr info ? | 00:26 |
| wgrant | bzr push --remember someurl | 00:26 |
| wgrant | --remember causes it to update the stored push location. | 00:26 |
| savvas | hm I wonder if it's possible to use bzr add on files inside .bzr/ | 00:27 |
| Snova | No. | 00:27 |
| nicoInattendu | When more question on merge ;-) When I merge by dev branch in main . The status of branch is merged. To continue the dev. I have to use naother branch ? | 00:36 |
| wgrant | nicoInattendu: You could reset the state of the branch. But I think it's a good idea to have short-lived branches - that is, branch aggressively, separately for each feature. But it's really your project's decision. | 00:39 |
| nicoInattendu | wgrant : I like the concept of short-livec branch. It can esaily identify a set of job | 00:41 |
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| duanedesign | the ubuntu forums beginners team has a project called Best of Ubuntu Community Forums Tutorials. We would like to assign a new owner to the project. The current assigned owner has been mia for 8 mo. | 05:47 |
| duanedesign | is their a protocol for abandoned projects? | 05:48 |
| wgrant | duanedesign: Ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion | 06:40 |
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| savvas | how are the ppas named now? | 08:24 |
| savvas | I mean is it still of this format: http://ppa.launchpad.net/username/ppa/ubuntu ? | 08:25 |
| savvas | and how is the second PPA named? | 08:25 |
| wgrant | savvas: All PPAs have a name now - the default is 'ppa'. Additional PPAs can be named whatever you want, and that name replaces the 'ppa' in the URLs. | 08:50 |
| wgrant | See http://ppa.launchpad.net/wgrant/, for example. | 08:52 |
| wgrant | (the 'ubuntu' there is a historical relic - the other two are my real PPAs) | 08:52 |
| savvas | ah I know | 08:52 |
| savvas | I have a script that changes ubuntu to 'ppa/ubuntu' that's why I'm asking :) | 08:52 |
| wgrant | Ah. Yes, that's right. | 08:53 |
| savvas | the name ppa will stick the same though right? | 08:53 |
| wgrant | Although the old path might be permanent now - I don't remember. | 08:53 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 08:53 |
| wgrant | The default PPA is always named 'ppa'. | 08:53 |
| savvas | Cool! | 08:53 |
| savvas | let me check if there are any problems though :p | 08:53 |
| savvas | ..and fixed! | 09:22 |
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| Polk` | is landscape free? | 16:13 |
| beuno | Polk`, no, it's a service | 16:18 |
| Polk` | ok.. what can I use that is free? | 16:18 |
| Polk` | beuno, | 16:19 |
| beuno | Polk`, use for what? | 16:20 |
| Polk` | For landscape lkie softwear.. | 16:21 |
| beuno | Polk`, not that I know of, sorry | 16:21 |
| cjb_ie | so, i'm getting random X crashes - i started apport as suggested by http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing but after a crash apport-cli reports "No pending crash reports." - any idea what i might be doing wrong? | 16:45 |
| cjb_ie | (or if i should ask elsewhere?) | 16:46 |
| kwah | hi | 22:15 |
| kwah | adiroiban, have a minute? | 22:15 |
| adiroiban | hi | 22:16 |
| adiroiban | yes | 22:16 |
| kwah | I am curious | 22:17 |
| kwah | do you have direct access somehow to po's out of rosetta? | 22:17 |
| adiroiban | no | 22:17 |
| adiroiban | why? | 22:17 |
| kwah | hm... how then your validation process organized? | 22:18 |
| kwah | based on the contents you showed me other day? | 22:18 |
| kwah | some big archive stored in LP librarian? | 22:19 |
| adiroiban | there are language packs | 22:19 |
| kwah | I am curious, because its a kinda strange... To get latest translations from the rosetta I know only one way: export them document by document | 22:20 |
| adiroiban | https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+language-packs | 22:20 |
| adiroiban | there you can find all .po files included in language packs | 22:20 |
| adiroiban | for ubuntu-docs, as a member of Ubuntu Translation Coordinators, I can request an download containing all .po files from ubuntu-docs | 22:21 |
| adiroiban | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslatingUbuntu/Resources?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ubuntu-docs-links.txt | 22:22 |
| adiroiban | I'm trying to update the links from there... from time to time | 22:22 |
| adiroiban | :) | 22:22 |
| kwah | aha... so, there are simpler ways. | 22:22 |
| kwah | but they are not really documented | 22:22 |
| kwah | and how this language-packs are created? | 22:23 |
| adiroiban | I don't know :) | 22:23 |
| kwah | damn | 22:24 |
| kwah | :) | 22:24 |
| adiroiban | why do you care? | 22:24 |
| adiroiban | they are there | 22:24 |
| adiroiban | updated weekly | 22:24 |
| adiroiban | you can use them for various tasks | 22:25 |
| kwah | I want to have access to the latest translations at the moment, especially, when we are in the final stage of release process, when translations are open and changing fast | 22:25 |
| kwah | And automated way it is... Which does not exist now. | 22:25 |
| kwah | Rosetta is OK, but has its problems/drawbakcs: it is difficult for translators to check the whole document, which is necessary for the style | 22:27 |
| kwah | and consistency of presentation | 22:27 |
| Milosz | guys, uploaded sources don't immediately show up right? | 22:27 |
| Milosz | That is, it's no indication of an error right? | 22:27 |
| adiroiban | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/ppa | 22:27 |
| Milosz | hmm Launchpad PPA reception server did not find my account? | 22:28 |
| Milosz | Rejected: / Could not find person 'deadchip' / Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error. | 22:29 |
| kwah | adiroiban, these are for staible releases only | 22:29 |
| Milosz | ah | 22:29 |
| adiroiban | yep | 22:29 |
| adiroiban | kwah: what tool make it easy for a translator to check consistentcy and other general stuff? | 22:31 |
| adiroiban | makes | 22:31 |
| kwah | having the whole document at hands | 22:31 |
| kwah | which is with current toolchain is most of the time very difficult for tham | 22:32 |
| kwah | them | 22:32 |
| adiroiban | what document? | 22:33 |
| adiroiban | are you talking about ubuntu-docs? | 22:33 |
| adiroiban | or general po files? | 22:33 |
| kwah | thats why we wanted to organize daily updates on the development version of something like help.ubuntu.com for proof-reading | 22:33 |
| kwah | docs | 22:33 |
| adiroiban | I think we should be able to do that for karmic | 22:34 |
| adiroiban | by enabling "branch translations" in Launchpad | 22:34 |
| adiroiban | needs to check mdke and others | 22:34 |
| Milosz | btw is this the right help channel for PPAs? | 22:34 |
| Milosz | I was sent here from #ubuntu-devel | 22:35 |
| kwah | is it really going to help? | 22:35 |
| Milosz | I mean whether it is right at all | 22:35 |
| adiroiban | Milosz: here should be | 22:36 |
| kwah | Milosz, yep, I think so | 22:36 |
| adiroiban | but it's saturday night | 22:36 |
| kwah | no admins around | 22:36 |
| Milosz | ok not a problem, I wasn't nagging just wondering if it's right | 22:37 |
| kwah | adiroiban, I mean are there blueprints, braindumps or smth similar somewhere on that topic ? | 22:37 |
| adiroiban | what topic? | 22:37 |
| adiroiban | :D | 22:37 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: if you have a question, it's better to ask so someone might be able to help you further | 22:44 |
| LarstiQ | ah, you did | 22:44 |
| Milosz | Yes it was my error | 22:44 |
| Milosz | I wasn't aware the ppa dir name is derived from the email | 22:44 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: how do you mean? | 22:46 |
| RachedTN | Hello, I have sent a request to activate a Miling List for my team : https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tn-drafting | 22:46 |
| RachedTN | could anyone activate please, thanks :) | 22:46 |
| Milosz | LarstiQ, my LP login name is 'deadchip' but my PPA dir is apparently ~internalerror/ppa/ubuntu | 22:47 |
| Milosz | which is part of my email | 22:47 |
| Milosz | internalerror@gmail.com | 22:47 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: hmmm | 22:47 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: https://launchpad.net/~deadchip doesn't seem to exist? | 22:47 |
| Milosz | LarstiQ, different, more important question | 22:47 |
| LarstiQ | hi gmb | 22:48 |
| Milosz | LarstiQ, doesn't matter, I have a bigger problem (sorry to cut you off but I'd just like to get the sources uploaded) | 22:48 |
| Milosz | LarstiQ, what does this mean: Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution. | 22:48 |
| Milosz | I'm not trying to upload to official Jaunty or something | 22:48 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: pretty much what it says. The account connected to the key which the packages were uploaded with doesn't have upload rights for the ppa. | 22:48 |
| Milosz | it's impossible | 22:49 |
| Milosz | because I've just dput'd 2 other archives with exactly the same dput.cf | 22:49 |
| Milosz | and they were accepted | 22:49 |
| LarstiQ | well, is there a difference between the last dput and these two? | 22:49 |
| LarstiQ | RachedTN: I believe LP people will get to that on Monday | 22:50 |
| RachedTN | LarstiQ: mm, Ok :) | 22:51 |
| Milosz | here's the last line on an answers.lp.net thread on it: | 22:51 |
| savvas | Milosz: which command did you use? | 22:51 |
| RachedTN | thanks for your answer :) | 22:51 |
| Milosz | err the last reply in a thread | 22:51 |
| Milosz | "Odd. I didn't change anything but it was accepted. Oh well." | 22:51 |
| Milosz | savvas, dput <my_source.changes-file> | 22:52 |
| savvas | Milosz: I mean are you sure you haven't used "dput file.dsc" ? the correct one is "dput username file.dsc" (provided you have set up your dput.cf) | 22:52 |
| Milosz | as I did with the other 2 archives which were accepted without a problem | 22:52 |
| Milosz | savvas, I used the right command I thin because would it not otherwise have not been uploaded at all? | 22:52 |
| Milosz | I think* | 22:52 |
| Milosz | yes of course dput.cf is configured, sorrz | 22:52 |
| Milosz | sorry* | 22:53 |
| savvas | can you paste the contents of .dput.cf at a pastebin? | 22:53 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: does the reject mail mention both the PPA and the user it thinks tried to upload? | 22:53 |
| savvas | Milosz: actually wait | 22:53 |
| Milosz | here's the text of the email: | 22:54 |
| Milosz | http://rafb.net/p/ljHMuw38.html | 22:54 |
| hyperair | LarstiQ: the last person in debian/changelog, and the PPA. | 22:54 |
| Milosz | savvas, http://rafb.net/p/xak4kG17.html | 22:54 |
| savvas | did you use dput myppa file.changes ? | 22:55 |
| LarstiQ | hyperair: provided that's the key owner | 22:55 |
| Milosz | savvas, ah | 22:55 |
| Milosz | maybe i forgot to type the myppa part | 22:55 |
| Milosz | that must be it | 22:55 |
| savvas | Milosz: without myppa you send it to ubuntu archives I think :) | 22:55 |
| Milosz | savvas, yeah you were right :) | 22:56 |
| Milosz | because | 22:56 |
| Milosz | i found a file 'youki_0.03-1_source.ubuntu.upload' | 22:56 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: yeah, it parses the changelog without a ppa argument | 22:56 |
| Milosz | so that was that, thanks! | 22:56 |
| savvas | hehe np | 22:56 |
| savvas | happened to me a couple of times :P | 22:56 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: I have: | 22:57 |
| LarstiQ | [DEFAULT] | 22:57 |
| LarstiQ | default_host_main = notspecified | 22:57 |
| Milosz | ok but you upload to ubuntu | 22:57 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: in .dput.cf, exactly to prevent accidentally uploading to Debian (in my case) | 22:57 |
| Milosz | ah | 22:57 |
| Milosz | well ok but that is not related to PPAs | 22:57 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: it is, the rest in there is for the bzr ppas | 22:58 |
| Milosz | ah it was about the default | 22:58 |
| Milosz | ok I get it now | 22:58 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: but dput defaulting to something you don't want is common across all default usage | 22:58 |
| Milosz | to prevent uploading to ubuntu in my case | 22:58 |
| * LarstiQ nods | 22:58 | |
| Milosz | sorry | 22:58 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: np :) | 22:58 |
| Milosz | sorry got it :) | 22:58 |
| SamB | hmm, how come https://bugs.launchpad.net/dosemu/+filebug doesn't have a usable link to the upstream bug tracker ? | 22:59 |
| LarstiQ | SamB: good point | 23:00 |
| Milosz | btw small question | 23:00 |
| Milosz | is there a better section for a desktop audio player than 'sound'? | 23:00 |
| Milosz | if anyone knows that is | 23:00 |
| Milosz | ok I guess this is basic 1-0-1 I should go read | 23:01 |
| LarstiQ | Milosz: nafaik | 23:01 |
| Milosz | ok | 23:01 |
| SamB | the link on https://bugs.launchpad.net/dosemu isn't that useful either ... it just goes to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/sf | 23:02 |
| SamB | ... isn't there a bug somewhere about how launchpad should support mirroring SVN branches using bzr-svn ? | 23:18 |
| jpds | SamB: Seen launchpad.net/~vcs-imports ? | 23:21 |
| LarstiQ | SamB: I think so | 23:23 |
| LarstiQ | SamB: can't find it atm though | 23:25 |
| SamB | jpds: yeah, but that's so one-way | 23:26 |
| LarstiQ | SamB: hmm, I recall something about new vcs imports being done with bzr-svn? | 23:26 |
| SamB | LarstiQ: I think there was some talk about that -- did anything come of it? | 23:27 |
| LarstiQ | SamB: no clue, I'd need to grep irc logs or ask an LP dev | 23:28 |
| SamB | well, it's bug 359791 now | 23:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 359791 in launchpad-bazaar "It should be possible to mirror SVN branches using bzr-svn" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359791 | 23:35 |
| Milosz | I need a LaunchPad at home | 23:49 |
| Milosz | To get up in the morning :D | 23:49 |
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