[00:00] Ok , I undestand now . [00:00] and the person asking the merge is notified that it was merged [00:00] I guess merging sometimes can't be simple :) [00:03] Thanks for the help. I try the merge to find a way to corretcly organiseand schedile my code dev. [00:03] There are solutions like tarmac that look at the merge proposals and automatically merge branches. [00:03] But most projects that use Launchpad merge proposals just use them for tracking. [00:03] (at this point, at least) [00:07] I gi to take a look on tarmac [00:13] F..., I do a mistake :'(. It is possible to revert a push ? After my merge on trunk I do a push , wihtout paramters :-(, and the result orf merge was pushed in the dev branch instead of trunk. And I see no more my commits on dev branch. [00:14] nicoInattendu: You can just push an old copy of the branch (you might need to use push --overwrite). [00:14] I think you can bzr uncommit [00:15] but I've never tried that [00:15] You can, but that might not be what's wanted here. [00:19] wgrant : thanks for the push --overwrite , It put my branch just as I wan't. I promise, to never, never do a push or pull without paramters. It's evil :) [00:20] I do bzr push :P [00:21] use --remember to remember the last address you've sent it to [00:21] nicoInattendu: If dev had diverged from trunk, the original push would have failed, so in most cases you can't do bad things like that. [00:22] Ok [00:24] nicoInattendu: bzr info will tell you what bzr push and pull locations are defined if you're unsure [00:26] Thanks ans how I can update the bzr info ? [00:26] bzr push --remember someurl [00:26] --remember causes it to update the stored push location. [00:27] hm I wonder if it's possible to use bzr add on files inside .bzr/ [00:27] No. [00:36] When more question on merge ;-) When I merge by dev branch in main . The status of branch is merged. To continue the dev. I have to use naother branch ? [00:39] nicoInattendu: You could reset the state of the branch. But I think it's a good idea to have short-lived branches - that is, branch aggressively, separately for each feature. But it's really your project's decision. [00:41] wgrant : I like the concept of short-livec branch. It can esaily identify a set of job === abentley1 is now known as abentley === weltende is now known as welterde === Snova_ is now known as Snova [05:47] the ubuntu forums beginners team has a project called Best of Ubuntu Community Forums Tutorials. We would like to assign a new owner to the project. The current assigned owner has been mia for 8 mo. [05:48] is their a protocol for abandoned projects? [06:40] duanedesign: Ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion === abentley1 is now known as abentley [08:24] how are the ppas named now? [08:25] I mean is it still of this format: http://ppa.launchpad.net/username/ppa/ubuntu ? [08:25] and how is the second PPA named? [08:50] savvas: All PPAs have a name now - the default is 'ppa'. Additional PPAs can be named whatever you want, and that name replaces the 'ppa' in the URLs. [08:52] See http://ppa.launchpad.net/wgrant/, for example. [08:52] (the 'ubuntu' there is a historical relic - the other two are my real PPAs) [08:52] ah I know [08:52] I have a script that changes ubuntu to 'ppa/ubuntu' that's why I'm asking :) [08:53] Ah. Yes, that's right. [08:53] the name ppa will stick the same though right? [08:53] Although the old path might be permanent now - I don't remember. [08:53] Yes. [08:53] The default PPA is always named 'ppa'. [08:53] Cool! [08:53] let me check if there are any problems though :p [09:22] ..and fixed! === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [16:13] is landscape free? [16:18] Polk`, no, it's a service [16:18] ok.. what can I use that is free? [16:19] beuno, [16:20] Polk`, use for what? [16:21] For landscape lkie softwear.. [16:21] Polk`, not that I know of, sorry [16:45] so, i'm getting random X crashes - i started apport as suggested by http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing but after a crash apport-cli reports "No pending crash reports." - any idea what i might be doing wrong? [16:46] (or if i should ask elsewhere?) [22:15] hi [22:15] adiroiban, have a minute? [22:16] hi [22:16] yes [22:17] I am curious [22:17] do you have direct access somehow to po's out of rosetta? [22:17] no [22:17] why? [22:18] hm... how then your validation process organized? [22:18] based on the contents you showed me other day? [22:19] some big archive stored in LP librarian? [22:19] there are language packs [22:20] I am curious, because its a kinda strange... To get latest translations from the rosetta I know only one way: export them document by document [22:20] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+language-packs [22:20] there you can find all .po files included in language packs [22:21] for ubuntu-docs, as a member of Ubuntu Translation Coordinators, I can request an download containing all .po files from ubuntu-docs [22:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslatingUbuntu/Resources?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ubuntu-docs-links.txt [22:22] I'm trying to update the links from there... from time to time [22:22] :) [22:22] aha... so, there are simpler ways. [22:22] but they are not really documented [22:23] and how this language-packs are created? [22:23] I don't know :) [22:24] damn [22:24] :) [22:24] why do you care? [22:24] they are there [22:24] updated weekly [22:25] you can use them for various tasks [22:25] I want to have access to the latest translations at the moment, especially, when we are in the final stage of release process, when translations are open and changing fast [22:25] And automated way it is... Which does not exist now. [22:27] Rosetta is OK, but has its problems/drawbakcs: it is difficult for translators to check the whole document, which is necessary for the style [22:27] and consistency of presentation [22:27] guys, uploaded sources don't immediately show up right? [22:27] That is, it's no indication of an error right? [22:27] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/ppa [22:28] hmm Launchpad PPA reception server did not find my account? [22:29] Rejected: / Could not find person 'deadchip' / Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error. [22:29] adiroiban, these are for staible releases only [22:29] ah [22:29] yep [22:31] kwah: what tool make it easy for a translator to check consistentcy and other general stuff? [22:31] makes [22:31] having the whole document at hands [22:32] which is with current toolchain is most of the time very difficult for tham [22:32] them [22:33] what document? [22:33] are you talking about ubuntu-docs? [22:33] or general po files? [22:33] thats why we wanted to organize daily updates on the development version of something like help.ubuntu.com for proof-reading [22:33] docs [22:34] I think we should be able to do that for karmic [22:34] by enabling "branch translations" in Launchpad [22:34] needs to check mdke and others [22:34] btw is this the right help channel for PPAs? [22:35] I was sent here from #ubuntu-devel [22:35] is it really going to help? [22:35] I mean whether it is right at all [22:36] Milosz: here should be [22:36] Milosz, yep, I think so [22:36] but it's saturday night [22:36] no admins around [22:37] ok not a problem, I wasn't nagging just wondering if it's right [22:37] adiroiban, I mean are there blueprints, braindumps or smth similar somewhere on that topic ? [22:37] what topic? [22:37] :D [22:44] Milosz: if you have a question, it's better to ask so someone might be able to help you further [22:44] ah, you did [22:44] Yes it was my error [22:44] I wasn't aware the ppa dir name is derived from the email [22:46] Milosz: how do you mean? [22:46] Hello, I have sent a request to activate a Miling List for my team : https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tn-drafting [22:46] could anyone activate please, thanks :) [22:47] LarstiQ, my LP login name is 'deadchip' but my PPA dir is apparently ~internalerror/ppa/ubuntu [22:47] which is part of my email [22:47] internalerror@gmail.com [22:47] Milosz: hmmm [22:47] Milosz: https://launchpad.net/~deadchip doesn't seem to exist? [22:47] LarstiQ, different, more important question [22:48] hi gmb [22:48] LarstiQ, doesn't matter, I have a bigger problem (sorry to cut you off but I'd just like to get the sources uploaded) [22:48] LarstiQ, what does this mean: Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution. [22:48] I'm not trying to upload to official Jaunty or something [22:48] Milosz: pretty much what it says. The account connected to the key which the packages were uploaded with doesn't have upload rights for the ppa. [22:49] it's impossible [22:49] because I've just dput'd 2 other archives with exactly the same dput.cf [22:49] and they were accepted [22:49] well, is there a difference between the last dput and these two? [22:50] RachedTN: I believe LP people will get to that on Monday [22:51] LarstiQ: mm, Ok :) [22:51] here's the last line on an answers.lp.net thread on it: [22:51] Milosz: which command did you use? [22:51] thanks for your answer :) [22:51] err the last reply in a thread [22:51] "Odd. I didn't change anything but it was accepted. Oh well." [22:52] savvas, dput [22:52] Milosz: I mean are you sure you haven't used "dput file.dsc" ? the correct one is "dput username file.dsc" (provided you have set up your dput.cf) [22:52] as I did with the other 2 archives which were accepted without a problem [22:52] savvas, I used the right command I thin because would it not otherwise have not been uploaded at all? [22:52] I think* [22:52] yes of course dput.cf is configured, sorrz [22:53] sorry* [22:53] can you paste the contents of .dput.cf at a pastebin? [22:53] Milosz: does the reject mail mention both the PPA and the user it thinks tried to upload? [22:53] Milosz: actually wait [22:54] here's the text of the email: [22:54] http://rafb.net/p/ljHMuw38.html [22:54] LarstiQ: the last person in debian/changelog, and the PPA. [22:54] savvas, http://rafb.net/p/xak4kG17.html [22:55] did you use dput myppa file.changes ? [22:55] hyperair: provided that's the key owner [22:55] savvas, ah [22:55] maybe i forgot to type the myppa part [22:55] that must be it [22:55] Milosz: without myppa you send it to ubuntu archives I think :) [22:56] savvas, yeah you were right :) [22:56] because [22:56] i found a file 'youki_0.03-1_source.ubuntu.upload' [22:56] Milosz: yeah, it parses the changelog without a ppa argument [22:56] so that was that, thanks! [22:56] hehe np [22:56] happened to me a couple of times :P [22:57] Milosz: I have: [22:57] [DEFAULT] [22:57] default_host_main = notspecified [22:57] ok but you upload to ubuntu [22:57] Milosz: in .dput.cf, exactly to prevent accidentally uploading to Debian (in my case) [22:57] ah [22:57] well ok but that is not related to PPAs [22:58] Milosz: it is, the rest in there is for the bzr ppas [22:58] ah it was about the default [22:58] ok I get it now [22:58] Milosz: but dput defaulting to something you don't want is common across all default usage [22:58] to prevent uploading to ubuntu in my case [22:58] * LarstiQ nods [22:58] sorry [22:58] Milosz: np :) [22:58] sorry got it :) [22:59] hmm, how come https://bugs.launchpad.net/dosemu/+filebug doesn't have a usable link to the upstream bug tracker ? [23:00] SamB: good point [23:00] btw small question [23:00] is there a better section for a desktop audio player than 'sound'? [23:00] if anyone knows that is [23:01] ok I guess this is basic 1-0-1 I should go read [23:01] Milosz: nafaik [23:01] ok [23:02] the link on https://bugs.launchpad.net/dosemu isn't that useful either ... it just goes to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/sf [23:18] ... isn't there a bug somewhere about how launchpad should support mirroring SVN branches using bzr-svn ? [23:21] SamB: Seen launchpad.net/~vcs-imports ? [23:23] SamB: I think so [23:25] SamB: can't find it atm though [23:26] jpds: yeah, but that's so one-way [23:26] SamB: hmm, I recall something about new vcs imports being done with bzr-svn? [23:27] LarstiQ: I think there was some talk about that -- did anything come of it? [23:28] SamB: no clue, I'd need to grep irc logs or ask an LP dev [23:35] well, it's bug 359791 now [23:35] Launchpad bug 359791 in launchpad-bazaar "It should be possible to mirror SVN branches using bzr-svn" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359791 [23:49] I need a LaunchPad at home [23:49] To get up in the morning :D