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dtchend'oh, it's an abi bump :(02:43
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RAOFHow should I go about asking for the MMIO tracer to be enabled in an Ubuntu kernel somewhere, probably the kernel-ppa mainline builds or something?08:29
RAOFIt's not really a bug against any Ubuntu package... I suppose the kernel mailing list might be the goer.  If no one here would like to say "oh, yeah.  I'll do that" :).08:31
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RainCT(As a follow-up from two days ago, I installed Lenny -with default 2.6.26 amd64 kernel- and so far I haven't experienced any file system corruptions anymore.. I'll wait a bit more and then upgrade to a newer kernel)13:11
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Kamping_Kaiserhi all. um... should the page http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-generic exist? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic does but not the modules14:52
Kamping_Kaisermight it not have been built for hardy{,-security}?14:56
maxbrmadison knows about it15:04
maxblinux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-generic | 2.6.24-23.37 |                        hardy-updates | amd64, i38615:04
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Kamping_Kaiserhm. not used rmadison before15:05
Kamping_Kaiserwhy does it only exist in -updates not -security ?15:05
maxbperhaps it wasn;t a security update?15:06
maxblinux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (2.6.24-23.37) hardy-proposed; urgency=low15:07
maxbRight, just a normal SRU15:07
Kamping_Kaiseri cant seem to find it in 'hardy' though, so what was it an update for? :| (apply cluebat if i'm missing something obvious btw)15:08
maxbWhat do you mean "what was it an update for?"15:09
maxbAnd why would you necessarily expect it to be in "hardy" ?15:09
Kamping_Kaiserbecause i'd expect it to still be ther from before it was updated in -updates15:09
Kamping_Kaiseri thought thats how the archive worke15:10
maxbThe little fact you're missing is that the kernel ABI version is included in the binary package name.15:10
maxbThus, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-generic should be considered as an update to linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-(some smaller number)-generic15:11
Kamping_Kaiseri think i follow, but i'm going to sleep on it and reread in the morning to be sure. 15:12
maxbOr to put it another way: -updates are updates for the distribution as a whole - which in a few very specific circumstances can involve new binary package names.15:12
Kamping_Kaiserto try and clarify this for me, does that mean linux-image-2.6.24-23-386 is only useful if you have -updates, because thats the only way to get corresponding linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-38615:14
Kamping_Kaisermaxb, sorry, i'm really off. thanks for the help, hopefully its clearer in the morning15:18
maxbIf the -23 ubuntu-modules is in -updates, but the -23 image is in -security, that's an error15:41
* maxb afk too now15:42
mxboy15u1anyone care to help with a atheros wireless issue?15:48
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keesmaxb: it's in both places.17:36
kees     linux | 2.6.24-23.52 | file: hardy-security/main Sources17:36
kees     linux | 2.6.24-23.52 | file: hardy-updates/main Sources17:36
keesoop, wrong package.  hrm17:36
keesmaxb: looks like it's an old error, I'll get an archive admin to fix it.17:38
maxbRight... "linux" being updated in -security but "linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24" not being on ABI 22 in -security is uh, bad, right?17:38
maxbI mean "not being on ABI 23"17:38
keesyeah, though it's been like that since the first time linux was bumped to -23.  I'm checking the others....17:38
maxbKamping_Kaiser: ^ There you have it: There is indeed a problem, thanks for noticing17:39
keesI'm embarassed it took so long to figure that out.  :(  Looking at the USNs, it seems that I missed the ABI bump on Hardy in January.17:41
dtchenis there anything in buildscripts.git to help automate that?17:42
dtchen(since i began building test kernels, i've been updating the documentation to match actual practice, too)17:43
keesdtchen: the buildscripts don't really have much knowledge of the archive; I'm adding a script to the archive tools to scream when it happens.18:35
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keesmaxb, Kamping_Kaiser: hardy should be sane again on the next publisher cycle.  sorry that took so long.22:38

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