[02:43] <dtchen> d'oh, it's an abi bump :(
[08:29] <RAOF> How should I go about asking for the MMIO tracer to be enabled in an Ubuntu kernel somewhere, probably the kernel-ppa mainline builds or something?
[08:31] <RAOF> It's not really a bug against any Ubuntu package... I suppose the kernel mailing list might be the goer.  If no one here would like to say "oh, yeah.  I'll do that" :).
[13:11] <RainCT> (As a follow-up from two days ago, I installed Lenny -with default 2.6.26 amd64 kernel- and so far I haven't experienced any file system corruptions anymore.. I'll wait a bit more and then upgrade to a newer kernel)
[14:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi all. um... should the page http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-generic exist? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic does but not the modules
[14:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> might it not have been built for hardy{,-security}?
[15:04] <maxb> rmadison knows about it
[15:04] <maxb> linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-generic | 2.6.24-23.37 |                        hardy-updates | amd64, i386
[15:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. not used rmadison before
[15:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> why does it only exist in -updates not -security ?
[15:06] <maxb> perhaps it wasn;t a security update?
[15:07] <maxb> linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (2.6.24-23.37) hardy-proposed; urgency=low
[15:07] <maxb> Right, just a normal SRU
[15:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> i cant seem to find it in 'hardy' though, so what was it an update for? :| (apply cluebat if i'm missing something obvious btw)
[15:09] <maxb> What do you mean "what was it an update for?"
[15:09] <maxb> And why would you necessarily expect it to be in "hardy" ?
[15:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> because i'd expect it to still be ther from before it was updated in -updates
[15:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought thats how the archive worke
[15:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> d
[15:10] <maxb> Aha
[15:10] <maxb> The little fact you're missing is that the kernel ABI version is included in the binary package name.
[15:11] <maxb> Thus, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-generic should be considered as an update to linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-(some smaller number)-generic
[15:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think i follow, but i'm going to sleep on it and reread in the morning to be sure. 
[15:12] <maxb> Or to put it another way: -updates are updates for the distribution as a whole - which in a few very specific circumstances can involve new binary package names.
[15:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> to try and clarify this for me, does that mean linux-image-2.6.24-23-386 is only useful if you have -updates, because thats the only way to get corresponding linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-386
[15:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> maxb, sorry, i'm really off. thanks for the help, hopefully its clearer in the morning
[15:41] <maxb> erm
[15:41] <maxb> If the -23 ubuntu-modules is in -updates, but the -23 image is in -security, that's an error
[15:42]  * maxb afk too now
[15:48] <mxboy15u1> hello
[15:48] <mxboy15u1> anyone care to help with a atheros wireless issue?
[17:36] <kees> maxb: it's in both places.
[17:36] <kees>      linux | 2.6.24-23.52 | file: hardy-security/main Sources
[17:36] <kees>      linux | 2.6.24-23.52 | file: hardy-updates/main Sources
[17:36] <kees> oop, wrong package.  hrm
[17:38] <kees> maxb: looks like it's an old error, I'll get an archive admin to fix it.
[17:38] <maxb> Right... "linux" being updated in -security but "linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24" not being on ABI 22 in -security is uh, bad, right?
[17:38] <maxb> erm
[17:38] <maxb> I mean "not being on ABI 23"
[17:38] <kees> yeah, though it's been like that since the first time linux was bumped to -23.  I'm checking the others....
[17:39] <maxb> Kamping_Kaiser: ^ There you have it: There is indeed a problem, thanks for noticing
[17:41] <kees> I'm embarassed it took so long to figure that out.  :(  Looking at the USNs, it seems that I missed the ABI bump on Hardy in January.
[17:42] <dtchen> is there anything in buildscripts.git to help automate that?
[17:43] <dtchen> (since i began building test kernels, i've been updating the documentation to match actual practice, too)
[18:35] <kees> dtchen: the buildscripts don't really have much knowledge of the archive; I'm adding a script to the archive tools to scream when it happens.
[22:38] <kees> maxb, Kamping_Kaiser: hardy should be sane again on the next publisher cycle.  sorry that took so long.