[00:38] <Yasumoto_> heya guys, does anyone happen to have recommendations for dealing with https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/358690
[00:39] <Yasumoto_> there's a mozilla plugin symlink that isn't linking properly (looks like the totem plugin name was changed)
[12:06] <asac> bug 359536
[12:06] <sebner> asac: though 3.1/3.5 segfaults :P
[12:07] <asac> sebner: extensions
[12:07] <asac> :)
[12:07] <asac> no clue what you are talking about in particular
[12:07] <asac> ;)
[12:08] <sebner> asac: nah, using 3.6 brings more fun :P
[12:09] <asac> for me 3.6 is really stable
[12:09] <asac> when does 3.5/3.6 crash for you?
[12:10] <fta> shutdown
[12:10] <fta> (hi)
[12:11] <asac> fta: hi
[12:11] <asac> Bug 358599
[12:11] <asac> obscure
[12:12] <asac> removing xpti.dat from profile cures it once
[12:12] <asac> what does flashplugin do?
[12:12] <asac> ;)
[12:13] <sebner> asac: just 3.5, start up
[12:13] <sebner> ^^
[12:13] <asac> so archive admin denied removing xul 1.8 because there are still too many build rdepends in jaunty/universe
[12:13] <asac> *sigh*
[12:14] <sebner> asac: I'm wondering why there is no epiphany webkit 2.26. too unstable? Well I use 2.27 from the webkit team ppa now. afaik the turn to webkit will be complete with 2.28
[12:14] <asac> sebner: how does it fail to start?
[12:14] <asac> do you get a X error?
[12:14] <asac> sebner: if you start it from panel/menu, look at .xsession-errors
[12:15] <asac> anyone else has a displaced button on http://start.ubuntu.com/9.04/ ?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> asac: thought 1.8.1 was the one that had rdepends that were still active
[12:17] <asac> thats 1.8 for me ;)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:17] <sebner> asac: no entry in .xsession-errors, well If I start it from the terminal it just segfaults after some seconds (no firefox windows appears)
[12:17] <asac> sebner: fresh profile helps?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> ok what button am i looksing for?
[12:17] <asac> gnomefreak: "Search" (thats the only button i think)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> asac: mine looks fine on 3.0
[12:18] <asac> for me its outside the  box
[12:18] <sebner> asac: nope
[12:18] <gnomefreak> what version ar eyou on?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> btw ther eis no start page in 3.6
[12:19] <gnomefreak> 3.0 3.6 are both fine ehre trying 3.5 atm
[12:20] <gnomefreak> asac: sorry they all work here. still thinka  start page would be nice in 3.5 3.6
[12:20] <fta> start page ?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> fta: start page == open browser be brought to a page ubuntu or not. all i get is untitled
[12:22] <fta> that's ubufox
[12:22] <gnomefreak> fta: i know
[12:22] <fta> just force it, it should work
[12:22] <gnomefreak> force it?
[12:23] <fta> you're not using the nightly addon?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> nightly ubufox?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> im using the one i fixed
[12:23] <fta> no, nightly tester addon
[12:23] <gnomefreak> i find that where?
[12:24] <fta> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543
[12:24] <gnomefreak> thanks looking
[12:24] <fta> you can force addons 1 by 1, if they have a lower maxversion
[12:25] <fta> better than the pref doing that for all addons at once
[12:26] <gnomefreak> true
[12:27] <fta> i also like the version in the title bar, showing me which snapshot i'm running
[12:27] <gnomefreak> still untitled
[12:28]  * gnomefreak thinks Help>about could use a fix for 3.5 3.6
[12:29] <gnomefreak> nope still only untitled
[12:29] <fta> ?
[12:29] <fta> d'oh, fta       5441 17.1 14.9 1003036 307936 ?      Sl   Apr07 999:40 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6a1pre/firefox-3.6
[12:29] <gnomefreak> and i have it set to show my LP page
[12:29] <gnomefreak> fta: go to Hel>About and i get an XML parsing error
[12:30] <gnomefreak> you dont get htat?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> that?
[12:30] <fta> nope
[12:30] <gnomefreak> i have that in 3.2 and 3.6
[12:31]  * gnomefreak wonders why its not using the page i give it.
[12:31] <fta> is it the about from firefox or from ubufox? (i don't use ubufox)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> firefox
[12:32] <gnomefreak> i just disabled it and it looks like it worked for home page
[12:32] <gnomefreak> still get the XML error
[12:34] <asac> ubufox is broken on 3.5
[12:34] <asac> have to fix that before release still
[12:35] <fta> asac, if you have time for bug 190227, would be nice too
[12:36] <asac> fta: i need to find out if i am on 64-bit system or 32-bit at runtime
[12:36] <asac> i couldnt find the right way to do that ... if I get pointers that would help i guess
[12:37] <asac> hmm. there is a "uname" C function
[12:38] <asac> hmm ... what would uname -m be there :/
[12:39] <asac> seems it doesnt have that same info
[12:39] <asac> lets check uname source
[12:40] <gnomefreak> does ubufox control back foward buttons?
[12:40] <asac> gnomefreak: it breaks them in 3.5 (thats the bug i referred to)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> asac: 3.6 here
[12:40] <asac> also in 3.6
[12:40] <gnomefreak> and its disabled
[12:40] <asac> if its disabled it shouldnt change anything
[12:40] <gnomefreak> asac: that was my point
[12:41] <gnomefreak> yep enabled breaks tem on 3.5
[12:42] <gnomefreak> ok disabled and they work again i forgot i had enabled it again to test something else
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ok got rid of errors in gwibber
[12:47] <thunderstruck> if it does have a twitter acount it only errors on twitter if you remove that account it errors on indent.. me thinks that is bad
[12:49] <gnomefreak> ah that eror was due to lost connection
[12:51] <gnomefreak> i dont have xulrunner 1.1.8 installed so it cant be that many rdepends on it that are not on 1.9
[12:51] <gnomefreak> 1.8.1
[12:52] <gnomefreak> all of the rdepends work here so im confused
[12:53] <gnomefreak> mozilla-mplayer is not on 1.9 list but everything else is there, I dont see harm in removing it
[12:55] <gnomefreak> the | means alterntive right?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> s/alterntive/alternative
[12:57] <gnomefreak> and mplayer has no depends on xul at all. I think someone was wrong on the rdepends for 1.8
[13:25] <gnomefreak> well i got it changed around to grab orig but now cvs errors
[13:28] <gnomefreak> fta2: asac can someone give me an idea on why date time are failing http://pastebin.mozilla.org/641882
[14:15] <thunderstruck> asac: where is the branch for sunbird that was used for official archives. I fucked my branch up badly
[14:49] <asac> gnomefreak: you mean tbird?
[14:49] <asac> or what are you looking for?
[14:49] <gnomefreak> asac: sunbird
[14:50] <gnomefreak> my branch is gone
[14:51] <asac> gnomefreak: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x
[14:51] <gnomefreak> that doesnt include any changes made to the last release
[14:51] <asac> hmm
[14:51] <gnomefreak> last on that is swedish trans as i recall
[14:53] <asac> have to check my laptop then
[14:53] <asac> ok pushing
[14:53] <asac> and binding branch so this doesnt happen in future
[14:54] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks. binding?
[14:54] <asac> gnomefreak: pushed (rev 124)
[14:54] <asac> gnomefreak: that will take care that commits automatically get pushed to the branch
[14:54] <gnomefreak> oh cool
[14:54] <asac> so you would do a bzr bind lp:~gnomefreak/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x
[14:55] <asac> after that every commit gets auto pushed
[14:55] <asac> prevents forgetting that
[14:55] <gnomefreak> works for me thanks :)
[14:55] <asac> gnomefreak: please use topic branches in future
[14:55] <asac> e.g. give it a good name instead of ubuntu-0.x
[14:55] <gnomefreak> ah
[14:55] <asac> e.g. use "ubuntu-0.9-0ubuntu1
[14:55] <asac> "
[14:55] <asac> or something
[14:55] <asac> if the branch is about that version
[14:56] <asac> or use "lpXXXXXX" as branch name
[14:56] <asac> if it fixes a bug
[14:56] <asac> and so on
[14:57] <gnomefreak> making this 0.9 since it is last finial release :(
[14:57] <asac> we already have 0.9
[14:57] <asac> ;)
[14:57] <asac> you will figure
[14:57]  * gnomefreak not really comfortible using 1.0b1 in offical archives
[14:57] <asac> just choose a name that reflects the topic you are dealing with ;)
[14:57] <asac> gnomefreak: we wont get anything new for jaunty
[14:57] <asac> its karmic work
[14:58] <gnomefreak> asac: nor for KK
[14:58] <asac> and 1.0~b1 would be good enough i think
[14:58] <gnomefreak> asac: as a finial release?
[14:58] <gnomefreak> final even
[14:58] <asac> well. we should check if its stable enough
[14:58] <asac> we can send out a call for testing once we have the b1 package
[14:58] <gnomefreak> i will but somehow i doubt it since no work will be done to make it that way
[14:59] <gnomefreak> we have to figure out how to use ./debian/rules get....  sinceit fails to work even to grab current
[15:00] <gnomefreak> i changed rules to work with it however it will grab 0.9 only and fails to do that with a date/time cvs error
[15:02] <BUGabundo> asac: hey
[15:02] <BUGabundo> how was the partying ?
[15:08] <asac> BUGabundo: improving sense of life ;)
[15:08] <BUGabundo> I bet
[15:08] <BUGabundo> up for some work? or enjoying the weekend?
[15:09] <asac> not really sure what will follow. so cant tell ;)
[15:12] <BUGabundo> eeh
[15:12] <BUGabundo> just a friends laptop kubuntu and ndiswrapper not connecting to wifi
[15:12] <BUGabundo> but don't bother too much
[15:14] <asac> ndiswrapper is a mess
[15:14] <asac> i dont think its maintained anymore
[15:15] <BUGabundo> humm ? really?
[15:20] <asac> not sure ;)
[15:21] <asac> BUGabundo: i would say as long as its not a regression from intrepid there is only low chance to get it fixed
[15:21] <BUGabundo> okay
[15:21] <BUGabundo> hum he is on interpid
[15:21] <BUGabundo> jaunty won't even boot on it.... not even disabling acpi
[15:23]  * gnomefreak be back in ~ 1hour
[15:24] <asac> sounds bad
[15:24] <BUGabundo> not as bad as GKR dying on it self every 30 mins
[15:25] <asac> BUGabundo: where does it break? kernel panic? when?
[15:25] <BUGabundo> the other laptop? not sure... it tested it 2 weeks agot
[15:26] <BUGabundo> time to get a daily and test it again, when the guy gets back
[15:29] <asac> in the past when linux didnt boot it helped to upgrade bios
[15:29] <asac> actually for this abit board i filed a bug about that with abit and they fixed it in next update a few weeks later
[15:29] <asac> which was quite impressing ;)
[15:30] <asac> BUGabundo: but really. you should file a bug on behalf of the motherboard/whatever vendor for every bug you file here in ubuntu
[15:31] <asac> ever computer should boot with linux
[15:31] <asac> its not black magic ;)
[15:31] <asac> now its time for linux users to be vocal on hardware vendor side
[15:31] <asac> only then they will change their attitude and test stuff with linux before shipping a crappy bios to the world
[15:33] <asac> i think its really a problem that most users and devs have accepted the previously true fact that hardware vendors dont care at all. now they think we have to fix everything on our own, while lots of users complaining would make them change their way of thinking i am sure.
[15:34] <asac> it doesnt really matter what you write. sending a mail that their hardware doesnt run with modern linux kernels should be enough if they get those frequently from all sides.
[15:40] <BUGabundo> asac: in my case it's a "white" brand! it has no manufacter per si, only the OEM casing
[15:41] <BUGabundo> in my case Asustek S37S
[15:41] <BUGabundo> try finding a contact for them or a BIOS upgrade
[16:18] <asac> BUGabundo: somebody usually assembles the boards. they are responsible for making the bios right
[16:21] <BUGabundo> yeah
[16:21] <BUGabundo> but I never found who or where
[16:29] <asac> BUGabundo: then send to whoever sells the OEM system
[16:29] <asac> usually its relabels
[16:29] <BUGabundo> can't! they were bought
[16:29] <BUGabundo> im not even sure the new owner even sells this brand
[16:29] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[16:29] <BUGabundo> have to pass on the store one day
[17:29] <BUGabundo> asac: that laptop is a DELL
[17:29] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[17:29] <BUGabundo> a 15xx
[17:29] <BUGabundo> getting a BIOS update for it
[17:35] <asac> BUGabundo: yeah try that
[17:47] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/148991/
[17:48] <BUGabundo> I still have much to learn on _your_ code
[17:49] <asac> lol
[17:49] <asac> that paste was just for me
[17:49] <asac> so i dont loose it in case my system crashes ;)=
[17:55] <BUGabundo> eheheh
[17:55] <BUGabundo> bzr ?
[17:55] <BUGabundo> and a few syncs?
[17:55] <BUGabundo> I do most of my code and docs on bzr
[17:56] <BUGabundo> even .confs are there
[17:56] <BUGabundo> that reminds me.... forgot to file a bug on kdepim trunking files
[18:03] <BUGabundo> asac: lot of ppl having trouble with wpa2 recently, me included
[18:04] <BUGabundo> did something got lost in the kernel ?
[18:05] <asac> too heavy wait for this case ;)
[18:05] <asac> pastebin felt proper ;)
[18:07] <BUGabundo> ehe
[21:33] <armin76> [reed]: asac: fta: http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/tktview?tn=3777 i've been told that sqlite-3.6.12 is going out on tuesday