sladenLjL: well I guess this.  The question WHO TO CONTACT who /can/ do something about it00:00
Seeker`why can noone access the topic?00:01
sladenSeeker`: I'm not sure exactly, but it would be great is somebody could stop by the channel and ask the right question rather than I standing in the middle listening to both sides going "*shrug*"00:03
Seeker`if it isn00:03
sladenwhat is "isn"00:03
Seeker`t an #ubuntu-* channel we can;t do anything about it. If you can't get access because the original founder etc. have gone awol, i'd guess #freenode would be your best bet00:03
sladenI guess I could have gone there first, perhaps figured that people here might already have a rapor with the right people.00:04
sladenis there anyone particular on #freenode it would be worth speaking it00:05
Seeker`I'm not sure00:07
ubottuIn ubottu, Stupendoussteve said: netbook is Ubuntu Netbook Remix is a purpose-build Ubuntu system designed for netbooks. It contains a new user interface and optimizations for the Atom processor borrowed from the Moblin project. More information, including a download link, is avilable at http://tinyurl.com/n-remix00:22
ubottuIn ubottu, Stupendoussteve said: no netbook is Ubuntu Netbook Remix is a purpose-built Ubuntu system designed for netbooks. It contains a new user interface and optimizations for the Atom processor borrowed from the Moblin project. More information, including a download link, is avilable at http://tinyurl.com/n-remix00:25
ubottuIn ubottu, Stupendoussteve said: netbook is also netbook-remix00:27
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, aboleth said: !enter is annoying00:29
LjLsladen, people in #freenode will likely tell you that you need to file a GCF about #dx and stuff like that00:51
LjLsladen: Srecko is the founder of #dx, and he's the only one who can access it. i have no idea why they never added more ops to the channel (that was a bad idea - please ensure that won't happen in the new channel)00:52
LjLsladen: maybe you could get someone to set mode -t. but that's only a maybe.00:54
Flannelsladen: If theres nothing else we can help you with today, please don't idle here; thanks.01:19
bazhangtimewarp might be zaapiel as well. not sure how far the router assigns dhcp addresses though01:33
bazhangLjL, that is where I searched yes01:34
ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !ftp ~= /Nautilus/Nautilus (Places -> Connect to Server)/02:53
rwwAs an addendum to that factoid correction, half of the !phrases in !ftp don'02:56
ubottuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for !Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd02:56
rwwt actually exist. (e.g. !nautilus)02:56
Seeker`!idle | sladen 02:57
ubottusladen: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.02:57
LjLrww: yeah, that's back to the days when using a !factoid that didn't exist fell back to !info package02:57
rwwLjL: oh, i see. That explains a lot.02:57
LjLrww: i never wanted to remove all those bangs since i originally went to such great lengths to add them everywhere ;(02:57
LjLbut, i guess the time has come02:57
ubottuftp aliases: ftp clients, ftp client - added by bimberi on 2006-07-24 06:50:53 - last edited by tonyyarusso on 2009-03-10 21:42:5802:57
LjL!no ftp is <reply> FTP clients: Nautilus (Places -> Connect to server), gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); Konqueror, Kasablanca, KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd02:58
ubottuI'll remember that LjL02:58
Mezyou guys can deop me you know :P03:08
geniiIs there a way to fetch a channel topic without going there?04:59
bazhang<mopoyo> ActionParsnip, you're an idiot05:03
bazhanghe was insulting people yesterday and asked to stop, also very random and non-connected answers to what he was asking.05:03
reid__I need to speak to someone about being unbanned from #ubuntu06:09
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bazhangreid__, the person you need to speak to is not here right now. try coming back at a later time.06:19
bazhangreid__, your ban has not been removed yet you are in #ubuntu now.06:22
bazhangreid__, you were told not to ban evade, yet you did so nonetheless.06:25
reid__im sorry im a little confused06:26
reid__I'm in the middle of helping someone with a serious GRUB problem atm06:26
bazhang<reid__> I need to speak to someone about being unbanned from #ubuntu06:26
reid__yeah I know that was a while ago06:26
bazhangless than 20 minutes ago.06:27
reid__would you like me to disregard the help that this person needs?06:27
reid__if that is true, then re-ban me please06:27
bazhangreid__, you ban-evaded.06:27
reid__i'm not familiar06:27
reid__if it was a time-ban06:27
reid__then the time is up?06:27
reid__if it was a perma-ban requiring me to appeal06:28
reid__then obviously for some reason I am allowed in06:28
bazhangreid__, you needed to come back here and clear it with ikonia ; yet you decided to evade the ban. It was NOT a time ban (ie auto-expiring)06:28
reid__it obviously auto-expires06:28
reid__I didn't INTEND to time-ban06:28
reid__I tried to see if I was time-banned06:28
reid__and I was allowed in06:28
reid__so figured I was..06:28
bazhangnice try.06:29
reid__nice try?06:29
reid__so seriously, the guy that I've been helping has no help now?06:29
bazhangyou evaded the ban by changing your IP address.06:29
reid__I was doing research on his problem06:29
reid__he was a newbie06:29
reid__IP addresses renew themselves06:30
reid__omg what a coincidence06:30
reid__I didn't realize it was an IP ban06:30
bazhangno matter, he will get help with others, grub is not such a difficult problem.06:30
reid__no its not, but don't treat me like a damn crimincal06:30
reid__I come here to HELP people06:30
reid__and I get banned?06:30
reid__every time I friggin come06:30
bazhangthe problem is your issue with following the channel rules.06:30
reid__did I not acknowledge the rules this time?06:31
reid__did I say "abbreviations of profanity"?06:31
reid__I do not think I did06:31
bazhangban evasion is against freenode policy, if you were curious.06:31
reid__ikonia told me to come back the next day06:31
reid__I did not attempt to evade ban06:31
reid__I assumed that my ban was dropped06:31
bazhangyes, 24 hrs later, not right after a short nap and breakfast.06:31
reid__I am on the same router06:31
reid__I was banned at 4 AM06:32
reid__it is not 12:306:32
reid__the next day06:32
reid__I was not told 24 horus06:32
reid__I was told the next day06:32
bazhangand you were re-banned under your new IP address just moments ago.06:32
reid__if it is THIS hard to help people in $ubuntu06:32
reid__then I do not want to06:32
bazhangyour choice.06:32
reid__I want to know why you are so interested in banning me?06:33
reid__IP's renew themselves06:33
reid__its my ISPs fault06:33
reid__not mine06:33
bazhangand people reset their routers as well.06:33
reid__I do not have a router06:33
reid__I am on campus06:33
reid__with a hardwire connection06:34
reid__UT Dallas if you care to know06:34
reid__omg im a Comp Sci major06:34
reid__what a helpful way to help people06:34
bazhangthen you should understand that ban evasion is a no-no.06:34
reid__then YOU should understand that IP's renew themselves06:34
reid__its common sense06:34
reid__I did nothing06:34
reid__I'm on the same exact network06:35
bazhangyou were asked to return here.06:35
reid__and I tested if it was a time-ban06:35
bazhangto be unbanned.06:35
reid__and when I was allowed in, I figured it was06:35
bazhangand that ban was not lifted.06:35
bazhangyou figured wrong then.06:35
reid__it is that simple06:35
bazhangwhat you are saying makes zero sense.06:35
reid__I dont CARE what you guys think about me... I am HELPING people06:36
reid__I want to be unbanned to HELP06:36
bazhangwhy would you come in here to be unbanned when you were in the channel already?06:36
reid__so what do I need to do to accomplish that06:36
reid__because I joined this channel first?06:36
reid__because I thought I was banned?06:36
elkyreid__, you are an incredibly rude person.06:36
reid__not when I'm helping peopl06:36
bazhangyou are banned.06:36
bazhangand now you are ban-evading and banned for that as well.06:37
reid__ok fine FUCK you, FUCK your #ubuntu channel, and FUCK helping people... I have spent endless hours HELPING peoplg06:37
reid__and that has been in vain06:37
reid__so FUCK you06:37
reid__and I'm going to be banned06:37
reid__I dont CARE06:37
reid__my ubuntu install works grats06:37
bazhangplease depart then.06:37
reid__after MONTHS of working on it06:37
reid__and I want to share my knowledge06:37
reid__with others06:37
reid__and because I said "wtf" once06:37
reid__I get banned06:37
bazhangnot quite the actual truth.06:38
reid__I said "wtf" then "gtfo".. to an admin06:38
reid__my mistake06:38
reid__its NOT that uncommon06:38
reid__I promise06:38
reid__the admin was being an a** to me06:38
reid__and I don't care06:38
bazhangreid__, there seems nothing else to discuss now.06:38
reid__if you guys really want to perma-ban me06:38
reid__then that is fine06:39
reid__I am perma-banned06:39
reid__just tell me06:39
bazhangyou cannot follow channel rules.06:39
reid__am I perma-banned or what?06:39
reid__if I'm perma-banned then I will never come back, ever06:39
bazhangand want to argue endlessly in here about what channel policies should or should not be.06:39
elkyreid__, i am reading my logs and i see no substantial contribution by you anyway.06:39
reid__omg are you reading my /msg logs too?>06:40
reid__you must be awesome06:40
reid__how come everyone who uses ubuntu is awesome, and the devs are awesome06:40
reid__yet you guys are like 10-year old mormons06:40
elkyreid__, and how pray tell as an unregistered user are you /msging people?06:41
bazhangreid__, ad hominem attacks and cursing arent helping you out here.06:41
reid__because you can?06:41
reid__NOTHING is helping me06:41
reid__fuck #ubutnu, there are other channels where I can help people06:41
reid__thats cool with you guys?06:41
reid__or are you freenode admins06:41
reid__that ban me from the entire server06:42
reid__I can join #ati06:42
reid__or #math06:42
reid__or #eeepc06:42
bazhangreid__, please depart the channel.06:42
reid__you kick me from the ops channel.06:43
bazhangyou were being abusive06:43
reid__I doubt it06:43
reid__who is your superior?06:43
reid__can I e-mail someone>06:43
reid__file a complaint maybe?06:43
reid__I find this extremely ridiculous06:44
jussi01reid__: sure, feel free to email the ubuntu IRC council06:44
reid__every second that I have spent in #ubuntu06:44
reid__has been helping other people06:44
bazhangreid__, the channels are logged you are aware.06:44
reid__yes.. I am aware06:44
reid__as if I was ban-evading06:45
reid__thats seriously a very strange assumption to make06:45
reid__when all I have to do to ban-evade, is /join #ubuntu06:45
reid__normally it says you cannot join, you are banned06:45
reid__and this time it let me06:45
bazhangreid__, why not depart the channel as clearly you are not lucid enough to discuss now.06:45
reid__I figured it was a time ban06:45
reid__or cohesive06:46
bazhangno one said it was a time ban.06:46
reid__I think you mean cohesive06:46
reid__so?  the coding should be such that if its NOT a time ban06:46
elkyreid__, this is no longer about ban evading. this is about you being abusive and rude, and demonstrating a temper that makes you unfit for #ubuntu.06:46
bazhangand you were asked to return here to have the ban removed.06:46
reid__it should be still banning me after 24 hours?06:46
reid__and I did06:47
reid__and nobody responde06:47
reid__so I attempted to join #ubuntu06:47
reid__and it worked06:48
reid__I cannot believe that for OSS admins, you are this ridiculous06:48
reid__OSS is about a community, helping people06:49
reid__look at the logs, when is the last time I asked for help06:49
reid__its not like I join #ubuntu looking for help or trollings06:49
reid__I go in there to specifically HELP people06:49
reid__and if you do not appreciate that06:49
reid__then screw your community06:49
bazhangreid__, this is going nowhere.06:49
reid__I love linu06:49
reid__and I happen to be proficient as well06:50
reid__I do not need #ubuntu's help06:50
reid__but I feel like I can give bak06:50
bazhangokay then.06:50
reid__#ubuntu has helped me06:50
elkyreid__, then please, go elsewhere.06:50
bazhangso please depart the channel.06:50
reid__in the past06:50
reid__and I want to give back06:50
bazhangwe are asking nicely.06:50
jussi01reid__: could you at least follow this:06:50
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:50
reid__please ban me from the channel for closure06:51
reid__ban me from -ops06:51
elkyit does not work like that, reid__.06:51
reid__you don't have the power to ban me from -ops?06:51
elkyi do.06:51
elkybut that's not how it works.06:51
reid__kk thanks06:52
bazhangonly trolls need that usually.06:52
reid__and I'm not a troll06:52
bazhangso if you are a good helper, then please depart.06:52
elkyreid__, bans are not tradeable. your behaviour here today has proven you unfit for #ubuntu. you will not be allowed into that channel.06:52
reid__if I'm not allowed ever into #ubuntu06:52
reid__then why should I be allowed into #ubuntu-ops06:53
reid__am I an admin?06:53
reid__I WANT to help people06:53
reid__especially ATI users06:53
elkyand we dont want your help.06:53
bazhangthen depart.06:53
reid__YOU don't want my help06:53
reid__but many newbies do06:53
bazhangnot at this cost, no.06:53
reid__explain the cost please06:54
bazhangthe dramatics etc06:54
elkythe babysitting you obviously need06:54
bazhang'ban me for closure' and so on for a simple case of waiting a few extra hours to have a ban removed.06:54
reid__the dramatics are a direct function of your resposne to me saying 'wtf06:54
reid__I was allowed into the channel06:55
reid__do you still think I evaded ban?06:55
elkythe cost that would be incurred by having to ensure that someone supervised you constantly to prevent personal attacks and abuse.06:55
bazhangwell I am off now.06:55
reid__this is linux, its not like its HARD to ACTUALLY evade ban06:55
tritiumWhat a waste of bits in the channel log...06:55
reid__is every #ubuntu admin like this?06:56
elkyconsidering you'd likely only abuse that person, i doubt we coudl get anyone to do it voluntarily06:56
bazhangreid__, sounds like a credible threat since you did it once already.06:56
reid__reid__: on purpose?06:56
reid__bazhang: on putpose?06:57
reid__]THIS IS LINUX.. omg don't make me load up backtrack and log into #ubuntu06:57
reid__omg I would be so detectable06:57
reid__if i changed my MAC and my IP06:57
reid__I want to help people06:57
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)06:58
bazhangsorry all, cannot hang around; really have to go now.06:58
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/06:58
ubottufreenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml06:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ban-evasion06:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ban-evade06:59
reid__what a surprise06:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ban-evading06:59
jussi01!botabuse | reid__06:59
ubottureid__: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".06:59
elkyreid__, ban evasion is a breach of Freenode rules.07:00
reid__did ever admin wish they were a cop?07:00
reid__ever = everu07:00
reid__i have a single question, then I will elave07:01
reid__who will answer it07:01
stewreid__: please see my PM07:01
stewso i've had a conversaion privately with reid__ about whats going on07:11
stewhe acknowleges that he was banned 22 hours ago07:12
stewhe says he was back in the channel not to evade, but because he didn't know the ban was still in effect07:13
stewabout why he got banned now07:13
stewhis understanding is that this was for foul language07:13
stewand after talking to him, i think he understands that things like "wtf" are not acceptable07:13
stewand would rather not use them if that allows him to continue helping people in #ubuntu07:14
stewif we could, can we make clear how long the current ban shall last, even if that is "indefinately, or until we have another conversation about it"07:14
stewjust so there is no future confusion about whether or not his rejoining the channel sometime int he future would be considered evading?07:15
jussi01elky: you still around?07:15
jussi01stew: just a moment please07:15
stewreid__: do you think what i've said above is accurate?07:15
elkygreat. now he can serve out the time for his previous ban, and the 48hr extention for being abusive to ops again today. he is to come back in here and *wait* for someone to discuss with him before entering #ubuntu again07:15
elkyso hence, in 50 hours, he will be eligable to come back here and discuss.07:16
stewreid__: does this all make sense to you?07:16
reid__I would appreciate knowing whether this a time-ban or a ban assuming that I will come back to -ops to discuss07:17
reid__because this seems to be the problem at the time07:18
reid__I entered #ubuntu ignorant of the fact that my IP had been renewed07:18
elkywe do not set auto-lifting bans. nobody learns their lesson if they do not discuss with us.07:18
reid__ikonia did tell me that I should come back in 24 hours07:18
reid__and I came back in 2207:18
reid__intending to discuss07:18
reid__but now I am understanding of the rules07:19
reid__and my intention is not to be a jerk..07:19
elkyand that would have been fine if you'd been polite. however you were incredibly rude and abusive.07:19
elkyand it's your rudeness that has earned you all of your ban time.07:20
reid__tell me when I should return to -ops07:20
reid__and I will return after this time07:20
elky50 hours from now.07:20
reid__so if today is Friday, at 1:2007:20
reid__I should be back by Monday07:21
elkymonday at 3:2007:21
reid__3:20 PM?07:21
reid__or AM07:21
elkyi dont know, which did you specify before?07:21
elkywait... let me calculate in UTC07:21
reid__thank you07:21
reid__I am Central US, if it helps07:22
elky date -u -d +50hours07:22
elkyMon Apr 13 08:22:34 UTC 200907:23
elkytimeanddate.com will help you calculate07:23
reid__so at 8:22 AM, on Monday07:23
reid__I will be able to appeal07:24
elkythat was UTC07:24
reid__oh, I see07:24
elkyyou will need to calculate that to your timezone07:24
reid__well I'm at leat 8 hours behind UTC07:24
reid__so I assume that at some point on Monday07:24
reid__I will be able to speak to -ops without being banned07:24
reid__I should not attempt to join #ubuntu while being banned07:25
reid__my IP renews every 12 hors07:25
elkyi'm glad you understand all that. have a good easter07:26
reid__thank you, I will see you sometime Monday07:26
reid__I am leaving now07:27
reid__if there are any further questions, please /msg me07:27
elkystew, um... are unregged people able to /msg these days?07:28
stewunless the recipient has set +E07:31
stewat some point that was the default,  it no longer seems to be the default07:33
stewelky: are you ok with the current reid__ situation?07:33
elkystew, you might want to let him know that the nick reid hasnt been used a while and registering it might be a nice idea...07:33
stewlet me know if you want me to talk to him more in the future, i seemed to have no problem communicating with him07:33
elkysometimes they refuse to listen to channel ops, but when they have a staffer who could block them from the whole network, they suddenly change their attitudes07:34
stewsometimes it just takes someone that they can not feel like the have to take a confrontational attitude towards07:36
stewhe's registering reid07:38
ubottuziroday called the ops in #ubuntu (maggotface)07:38
stew02:39 <reid> I'm just kind of at a party atm, and its already been pretty lame for me to be  on irc for so long07:40
elkyah, so he's drunk. this is why ircing while drunk is bad for your health07:42
* elky pours a whisky dry07:43
stewand /me goes for another homebrew07:44
FlannelWhat an odd cookie07:56
MyrttiI wish I had been active...09:20
Myrttisladen... *sigh*09:21
ikoniaI'd like to like that reid_ new he was still banned and changed his name to reid__ to try to get around the ban - he knew exactly what he was doing09:28
elkyikonia, and when he gets back in and acts like a moron again, he can be removed again. and he can evade again. and nobody will have sympathy for him then09:38
ikoniafair enough09:39
elkynot all nick changes are to get around bans either. i doubt j dong is currently trying to get around a ban09:42
jdongnot that I'm aware of :)09:42
Myrtti  /n09:43
Myrttioh, right09:43
jdongoh I do have two of me signed in. I get it now :)09:54
bazhangits the JDONG!!!!09:59
jdonglol the other jdong was just there to rough out a netsplit a week ago09:59
bazhanghandbrake ftw10:00
jdongtotally forgot about that shell10:00
jdongand yes, handbrake FTW :)10:00
jussi01I think I should ban jdong...10:00
bazhangsorry to have left earlier in the midst of the reid__ drama, had to work10:00
jussi01bazhang: alls fine10:00
bazhangdid not imagine it would take more than an hour to resolve :(10:00
bazhangjussi01, ok thanks10:00
jussi01you could hardly get a word in with that guy...10:01
* jussi01 waves to ikonia... any word on the netbook?10:01
bazhangthats why the 'its the isp's fault' etc did not seem to wash (ie time-ban, etc)10:02
jussi01bazhang: really, it could be or could be not, but its easy enough to ban again if he is a moron10:02
bazhangjussi01, yep10:02
jussi01so why not give the benefit of the doubt10:02
imachineso what;s going on, am I getting unbanned for good or sulk away10:17
imachineor *do I have to* sulk away10:18
imachinesory, it's still morning over here ;]10:18
jussi01imachine: who has been dealing with you previously?10:24
imachineikonia has10:24
imachinebut he's not here now aparently10:25
imachinehe, she, dunno10:25
jussi01imachine: I think he is arouund ish, we will wait sometime for him.10:25
imachineI'm in no rush10:25
elkyimachine, right, so lets discuss yesterday.10:45
* Myrtti waits11:02
elkyyes. i have other things to do too11:04
elkyimachine, are you there? i'm trying to help you here, but you're not responding11:04
Myrttiimachine: hellooooo11:04
elkyimachine, if you dont start responding, i'm going to remove you from here, and you can re-join when you are actually available to discuss11:16
bazhangimachine, dont idle here11:22
bazhang!idle | imachine 11:22
ubottuimachine: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.11:22
elky_only suspecting atm11:57
bazhanghe was already removed/banned from #u  (was trolling as tabbar yesterday)11:58
imachineelky_, I'm not always next to the keyboard you know12:05
imachineelky_, so what's there to discuss...12:05
imachinelet's get this over with!12:05
elky_there's plenty to discuss. such as interferring with channel ops. threatening to evade bans12:06
elky_the first is serious on a channel level. the second is serious on a network level12:07
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:07
imachinego on12:07
elky_imachine, please review the guidelines the bot just linked to12:07
imachineI've read those already yesterday or so12:07
imachineso it's nothing new12:07
imachineif you're going to school me on irc rules in general (freenode) I call pass since I've read those too12:08
imachineget to the point please12:08
elky_excuse me. you are in no position to rush this or be bossy.12:09
imachineI'm as kind as I can get on such a ridiculous situation.12:10
imachineyou've asked me to come by12:10
imachinehere I am12:10
bazhangnothing to discuss then.12:10
imachineI have other plans you know, it's holiday season.12:10
bazhangenjoy then.12:10
imachineare you kidding me?12:11
bazhangyou are very uncooperative.12:11
imachinewhat in the name are you talking about12:11
elky_no, you've asked to be let back in to our channels. these channels are not a right, they're a priviledge12:11
imachineyou've asked me to come by12:11
imachineher eI am12:11
imachinehow is that uncooperative?/12:11
bazhangand you think it is a farce.12:11
elky_imachine, you're the one who wants unbanning.12:12
imachineelky_, I've asked to get dealt with properly, I still stand by what I said before, etc.12:12
imachineelky_, I'm the one who wants some decent treatment.12:12
imachineIf I thought it was fair from the start I wuldn't even bother speaking to you lot.12:12
imachineI'd suck it in and move aside.12:12
elky_imachine, you are not entitled. you either play by our rules, or play elsewhere.12:13
imachinethis sounds like Ubuntu way 12:13
imachinehelp others ;]12:13
imachineelky_, you're hardly helping.12:13
imachineI want to speak to ikonia he was inviting me here.12:13
imachinespeaking to a monolith of people who stand by eachother is not fun for me.12:14
elky_this isnt intended to be entertainment12:14
imachineand like I said, it isn't.12:14
* gnomefreak sits back watching quitely12:15
imachineI want it sorted out.12:15
elky_you're going about it in the wrong way entirely12:15
imachinethere's no reason to hold a grudge against me.12:15
imachineelky_, the only reason why I'd like to be back at #ubuntu with your permission, is so that I can benefit fro mthe channel.12:16
imachinenot from the happy friendship I gain with the ops.12:16
elky_we're not holding any grudge. we're just wanting acknowledgement that the rules are there to be abided by.12:16
imachinedon't expect me to be super kind to you.12:16
imachineas long as I hold my rules and don't offend you, I don't have to like you, and see no reason why I shouldn't be entitled to using the #ubuntu channel.12:16
imachines/my rules/channel rules12:16
elky_except that your statement that you stand by what you said yesterday implies that you do not intend to comply with the channel rules12:18
imachineby no means12:19
imachineI stand by, but I am willing to sacrifice expressing my opinion on your channel, therefore breaking any channel rules.12:19
imachineand by your channel, I mean #ubuntu. expressing them here like I did today doesn't break any rules, afaik.12:19
elky_um... is that supposed to parse as 'i will abide by the rules, even if i do not agree with them'12:20
elky_there's an unnecessary layer of complexity in your wording there12:20
elky_then your ban has been lifted.12:21
imachinecheers to that, enjoy your holidays,12:21
imachinesee you about in less tight situations12:22
elky_hawk him12:22
Garyelky_: you are showing red (unidentified)12:41
elky_Gary, that's your client lagging12:42
elky_unless i got unidentified since i muted thefeds latest nick in -ot12:42
elky_apparently elky_ was not grouped to me. it is now12:43
Garyahh, you are using a unregged nick, but are id'd12:43
elky_i'm supposed to reg it seperate? i thought we could just group them in...12:43
Garyyou can, but elky_ is not registered at the mo12:44
elky_how do i un-identify?12:44
Garyyou should just be able to /msg nickserv group12:45
Garyyay, pretty green :p12:45
elky_you know, it was much easier before :P12:46
Garylies, it's easypeasy now12:46
elky_it was easier when i didnt have to learn how to do it all over again12:46
Garyadd a new nick, /nick othernick then /ns group12:46
Garyyeah, thats the biggest fun, relearning12:47
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jpdselky_: Can I please request op access in +1 and -devel-summit?12:49
elky_+1 i can do. -summit you'll need mneptok for12:51
elky_-ChanServ- Flags +votiA were set on *!*@ubuntu/member/jpds in #ubuntu+1.12:52
jpdsOh, I thought it was set by nick, but thanks! :)12:52
elky_i prefer to do it by hostmask12:52
elky_since it then avoids the annoyingness of having to nick if you've found an underscore or two12:53
elky_jpds, if you can get one of the current ops to request you in mneptok's absence, i could pull gc fu12:53
Garyas long as you are identified to the same account as the nick access, then it should work (I think)12:53
elky_Gary, never used to12:54
elky_Gary, or at least, not on all servers anyway12:54
Garyelky_: have you got a channel where you can give GazzaK access, which freenode/staff don't have access to test?12:55
elky_uh, not that i'm in at the moment. im redoing my vps. you could easily go to #fakechannelfortesting and try yourself :P12:55
Garymeh, thats work12:55
elky_no, exactly the same amount of work for you.12:56
elky_just less for me.12:56
Garyif you add a grouped nick it actually adds the accountname13:00
Garyand then the access applies as long as you are identified to the account13:00
elky_there. fixed for +113:02
elky_that's good to know13:02
elky_jpds, if you can get lifeless or keybuk or sabdfl to give you the nod for -summit, i can do that one too13:02
elky_well, i can make gary go find someone to do it, anyway13:03
Garymake me?13:05
Garywith a whip?13:05
Garywhat channel?  #ubuntu-devel-summit jpds +votiA13:06
elky_well, i'd rather not do that without one of the current ops giving it the thumbs up13:06
Garyelky_: you are a GC, so it can be done13:06
elky_Gary, can, yes. polite, no.13:07
Garyoh, I kinda asked, I better say hold it13:07
elky_off to have a bath. back in 40 mins or so13:16
elky_muuuuuuch better13:42
Nafalloelky_: you're back too soon :-)13:43
Nafallooh. oz. nvm.13:43
jussi01elky_: I got a good ticking off for adding hostnames to access lists like that... 13:53
elky_jussi01, from who? its how i've always done it13:54
jussi01from pri-cey, a long time ago... 13:55
elky_well nobody ever educated me on this. ever.13:55
jussi01Gary is right though, if you are identified to the nick added itll work...13:56
elky_first i ever knew of that working was an hour ago ;)13:57
elky_never worked on other networks i'm on, i just went with what i knew13:57
jussi01Fair enough13:58
jpdselky_: OK, I'll look for one of the folks later.14:03
Garydon't forget I can make it so, but as elky_ said, thats rudeish14:03
elky_Gary, if i'm not here and he gets the thumbs-up, you may enact it14:04
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ubottuBluesKaj called the ops in #kubuntu ()16:38
jussi01ikonia: ping16:49
mneptokwha'ppen in -devel-summit?17:28
jussi01mneptok: jpds wanted access...17:28
mneptokyeah, but why? i'm just morbidly curious.17:31
jussi01mneptok: something to do with him being at UDS... I dunno17:32
jpdsmneptok: Well, primarily, because there are no ops who have access in there, and I want to change to the topic :P17:40
LjLhe's morbidly curious, right17:44
LjLbethere zone5, what does that remind me of21:40
NafalloLjL: London21:40
LjLsounds reasonable.21:41
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Lenin_Catwhy was I banned from offtopic23:48
ShizuoBecause you can't control yourself23:48
ShizuoStop talking about lolcats and such23:48
Lenin_Catumz, ok, but I never talked about lolcats23:48
ShizuoThat's a good first step23:49
tsimpsonShizuo: how can we help you?23:49
ShizuoThat's a good question23:49
Lenin_Catany further awnsers here?23:49
ShizuoI don't think so23:50
tsimpsonShizuo: why are you here?23:50
ShizuoBig Bang?23:50
ShizuoWho knows?23:50
Lenin_Catim just gonig to wait a few minunates23:50
tsimpsonShizuo: if you have no business in here, please leave23:51
ShizuoI can sell you some things if you want to, then23:51
tsimpson... no23:51
ShizuoThen I guess no business, then23:51
ShizuoDo you want to confess something, man?23:52
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