[00:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:00] <_Brun0_> sveakex, this confirms my vostro 1400 sound card is indeed hda-intel: http://satish.playdrupal.com/?q=node/25
[00:00] <hunt4mike> Hello, this may be a bit off topic but I was wondering if any one here was experienced with basic?
[00:01] <racecar56> is it possible to totally blank a external usb hard drive while running ubuntu?
[00:01] <riwa> If I install a program with `dpkg`, where does it install to?
[00:02] <aboleth> jscalibrator detects the joystick, but does not fix the detecting it as mouse problem
[00:02] <proq> hunt4mike: it's more than a bit
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: sure as long as its not mounted
[00:02] <aboleth> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/274203
[00:02] <racecar56> ActionParsnip how?
[00:02] <aboleth> that's the bug that caused it
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<disk name>
[00:03] <keres> what is the apt-get for the latest version of gimp?
[00:03] <racecar56> ActionParsnip how could i not have thought of that xD
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: thats why you asked
[00:04] <racecar56> ActionParsnip and i use dd a lot (iso-ing a cd and stuff)
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> keres: sudo apt-get install gimp
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: there is a zero dev which you can dd onto the device
[00:04] <racecar56> ActionParsnip yeah
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> keres: if there is a newer version you will need to find a repo with it on
[00:05] <porter1> Anyone know where all the Boost stuff gets placed in Ubuntu?
[00:05] <keres> ActionParsnip: 8.04 i downloaded the archive but i prefer a deb or something
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> porter1: do you mean boot?
[00:05] <racecar56> ActionParsnip i know about /dev/zero and stuff, i once helped someone re-create it (man zero)
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> keres: then find a deb or a repo
[00:05] <porter1> No, the Boost libraries
[00:05] <Mark_Jone1> I cant remeber the name of the guy that was PMing me about my ASUS mobo LAN, are you still here whoever you are?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> porter1: oh
[00:06] <got_milk4> Michelle5: I'm back, still need help?
[00:07] <ariqs> I'm copying over a .rar file to a flash drive, and when I put it in my vista computer, the .rar doesn't show up. When I put it back in my comp running ubuntu, it's there. What might cause  this?
[00:07] <mewmew> question
[00:07] <mewmew> how do i change from kde4 to GDM
[00:07] <racecar56> !ask | mewmew
[00:08] <KillerOrca> Hello, I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[00:08] <mewmew> i just got done installing Kubuntu-dekstop and Xubuntu desktop on my ubuntu system and i'm trying to use Xubuntu desktop mainly
[00:09] <ariqs> I'm copying over a .rar file to a flash drive, and when I put it in my vista computer, the .rar doesn't show up. When I put it back in my comp running ubuntu, it's there. What might cause  this?
[00:09] <mewmew> when i turn my comp on instead of the ubuntu symbol i now get the kubuntu symbol
[00:09] <racecar56> mewmew did u install kubuntu-desktop? that is why if u did
[00:09] <linny> ariqs: windows :)
[00:09] <U-b-u-n-t-u> mewmew when you login in the beginning choose session and then which ever windows manager you want to use
[00:09] <proq> ariqs: maybe you formatted the drive as something vista can't read
[00:09] <racecar56> linny lulz
[00:09] <ariqs> proq: it can read other things on the drive
[00:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> there should be a list there mewmew
[00:10] <mewmew> U-b-u-n-t-u, yes however it gave me the option of configing it to certain windows or something like that
[00:10] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[00:10] <got_milk4> ariqs: have you tried other files on the drive? or is it only that .rar?
[00:10] <proq> ariqs: sounds more like a vista question than ubuntu then
[00:10] <mewmew> GDM, kde, kde4
[00:10] <linny> ariqs: what fs are you using ?
[00:10] <mewmew> i want to use gdm
[00:10] <racecar56> proq agreed
[00:10] <ariqs> got_milk4, the .rar
[00:10] <KillerOrca> proq, the flash drive may be dead, I have one that I can see everything on but can
[00:10] <KillerOrca> 't add files to
[00:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> mewmew then choose gdm at the login under the drop down for session
[00:11] <mewmew> U-b-u-n-t-u, GDM is not on there
[00:11] <got_milk4> ariqs: have you tried putting the .rar in some other directory on the drive?
 GDM, kde, kde4  << thought you said it was?
[00:11] <ariqs> linny: msdos is what it says in ubuntu. I didn't format it. it was preformatted
[00:11] <ariqs> got_milk4, no, i'll give that a shot.
[00:12] <mewmew> after i installed kubuntu-desktop AND xubuntu-desktop it asked me to choose one of those (at the time i didn't know what gdm is)
[00:12] <mib_mt72c5n9> I just installed ubuntu and it wont mount an NTFS partition on a seagate freeagent pro usb drive.
[00:12] <linny> ariqs:  format it to fat32
[00:12] <KillerOrca> Hello, I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[00:12] <mib_mt72c5n9> no its full
[00:12] <riwa> If I install a program with `dpkg`, how do I find it after?
[00:13] <U-b-u-n-t-u> mewmew when you install a new windows manager it will ask you do you want to set it as the default session, but even then when you login there is a session drop down menu and you can change it
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> riwa: try typing the app name it installs
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> riwa: use tab completion
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> riwa: they usually make nice menu items for you
[00:14] <dcomxx> hi! is it possible to write the output from ping to a text file when an error happened including the date and time ?
[00:14] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Doesn't work.. I installed gtkradiant which I converted from a .rpm
[00:14] <KillerOrca> dcomxx, ping | cat "filename" maybe
[00:14] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Do i need to update the path?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: ping (something) > ~/ping.txt
[00:15] <dcomxx> yea but i only want the errors printed in that file
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> riwa: no it should put a binary in /usr/bin     converting from rpm is NOT advised
[00:15] <dcomxx> when a host is unreachable or timeouts happened
[00:15] <rNaReplicaseX> has anyone else experienced trouble with the new nvidia driver?
[00:15] <KillerOrca> dcomxx, then I would google for text matching in shells
[00:16] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Well i found a tutorial on how to install rpm uner ybuntu
[00:16] <obiwan_chernobyl> hey i wonder why ubuntu sucks so much?
[00:16] <riwa> ActionParsnip: So i did it
[00:16] <rNaReplicaseX> I updated to the newest driver and I no longer have any signal to my monitor.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: you could grep -v time
[00:16] <dcomxx> i tried with grep but didnt work ..
[00:16] <obiwan_chernobyl> try windows man
[00:16] <got_milk4> Actually, I have a question. On my HP DV7 series notebook, in order to get sound working, I had to add "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf. This fixed my really jittery audio, but the audio sounds like it's being played back in mono and the integrated subwoofer in the bottom of the notebook isn't being used at all. Any ideas?
[00:17] <obiwan_chernobyl> it beats the shit out of ubuntu
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: or som other thing (grep -v inverts grep to find what doesnt match the filter)
[00:17] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Shouldn't there be a log file for dpkg?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> riwa: rpm is different to rpm and their actions cant be guaranteed
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> riwa: not sure
[00:18] <twolane> riwa: /var/log/dpkg.log
[00:19] <racecar56> how can i make 'find */foo' get passed to rm? (delete every file called foo in all directories)
[00:19] <Davide> I'm installing WINDOWS!!!!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[00:19] <obiwan_chernobyl> well done
[00:19] <dcomxx> i write : ping ip | grep -v 'something' > file
[00:19] <dcomxx> but doesnt work ..
[00:19] <racecar56> windows takes my ages to install -_-
[00:19] <riwa> Only says: -->2009-04-10 22:33:21 status installed gtkradiant 1.5.0-7
[00:19] <riwa> Nothing about no path
[00:19] <Davide> I cant get this damn sound card to work... :(
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> riwa: try typing gtkr then press tab
[00:19] <Davide> on ubuntu
[00:20] <Davide> spent hours
[00:20] <riwa> ActionParsnip: I have
[00:20] <Davide> scunizi: hey are you here?
[00:20] <proq> dcomxx: output = $(ping -c 5 ip 2>&1);echo $(output) > file
[00:20] <linny> Davide: what card
[00:20] <mib_mt72c5n9> i just restored my windows partition too, but i'm gonna reinstall ubuntu once i can play my videos off my ntfp free agent pro usb drive.
[00:20] <Davide> eseven73: hey are you here?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> riwa: the try: sudo find / -name gtkrad*
[00:20] <ramontayag> i have an old compaq presario 1200 that i slapped xubuntu on. when i get to the login screen, it's blank. knowing the screen is okay, i plugged in an external monitor then restarted the gdm (ctrl+alt+backspace) and the login screen showed fine. then, i took out the external monitor, and i also tried alt+ctrl+f1 and alt+ctrl+f7 and the screen showed. what should i go to make the screen...
[00:20] <ramontayag> ...automatically show?
[00:20] <Davide> linny: it's an Audigy 1
[00:20] <Davide> linny: SB0090
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Davide: what does lspci say your sound card is?
[00:20] <mib_mt72c5n9> i'll just wait for the next beta to become final.
[00:21] <Davide> ActionParsnip: I'm kinda noob idk what that is.. can you explain?
[00:21] <dcomxx> whats that ? a shell script ?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Davide: type lspci in terminal, one line will identify the card, paste that ONE line in here
[00:21] <rNaReplicaseX> Is there some way I can roll back my nvidia driver via root shell in recovery mode?  I've tried to dump compiz and dpkg -l nvidia-glx
[00:22] <proq> dcomxx: that's a bit of bash
[00:22] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Thanks! It was in /opt :P
[00:22] <Davide> well I"m using mirc on a windows PC the Ubuntu installation in question is on another PC
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> rNaReplicaseX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:22] <Davide> but hangon
[00:22] <mib_mt72c5n9> i went to mibbit .com so i can come to the channel
[00:22] <mib_mt72c5n9> dont like mirc
[00:22] <mib_mt72c5n9> :P
[00:22] <Harpoon_> does a microatx mb work in a normal atx case
[00:22] <Davide> I'm starting to hate mirc as well
[00:23] <rNaReplicaseX> ActionParsnip That will reconfigure the windows manager-y type thing, right?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> riwa: you can create a symlink in /usr/bin to the binary so you can execute it from any where
[00:23] <Davide> think I'm gonna get xchat
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> rNaReplicaseX: yes but it wont use the nvidia driver
[00:23] <racecar56> i like xchat
[00:23] <linny> Davide: use pidgin :)
[00:23] <mib_mt72c5n9> i just like to run things from browser :)
[00:23] <Davide> ActionParsnip: I'm booting up just a sec
[00:23] <darthanubis> Davide, xchat is the bomb
[00:23] <racecar56> but i dont like pidgin (for irc)
[00:23] <rNaReplicaseX> ActionParsnip And then I can roll back to my original, I suppose?
[00:23] <proq> dcomxx: apparently I need some caffeine:  ping -c 5 google.com 2>&1 | grep -v "something" > file
[00:23] <mib_mt72c5n9> i wish chrome worked on ubuntu, firefox is good but i really like chrome
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> rNaReplicaseX: sure, the xorg.conf will use the vesa driver so you will get an x server, you can then do anything you want
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> mib_mt72c5n9: its coming
[00:24] <riwa> ActionParsnip: I know. But thanks :)
[00:24] <mib_mt72c5n9> nice
[00:24] <mib_mt72c5n9> i dont know what it is but chrome just feels right :D
[00:24] <MementoMori> hi
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> mib_mt72c5n9: opera feels nice here. I'm all curious though
[00:24] <drowner> hi
[00:24] <Dreamglider> Hey
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> !hi ~ MementoMori
[00:24] <mib_mt72c5n9> with privoxy of course :P
[00:25] <linny> Davide:did you go thru the forums ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> mib_mt72c5n9: huh?
[00:25] <dcomxx> that doesnt work :S
[00:25] <KillerOrca> I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[00:25] <mib_mt72c5n9> blocks ads
[00:25] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[00:25] <mib_mt72c5n9> on windows
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> mib_mt72c5n9: browser does that for me
[00:25] <rNaReplicaseX> ActionParsnip Thank you.  I'll go right ahead and try that.
[00:25] <_Brun0_> Gow to list "not installed" hw in comand-line?
[00:26] <riwa> When I start the program I get: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". I know I've seen this errormsg many times before
[00:26] <_Brun0_> How to list "not installed" hw in comand-line?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> KillerOrca: did you reinstall a fresh OS on the new drive or is it just for data
[00:26] <dcomxx> um ok maybe making it simpler .. how can i just add the current time to each ping ?
[00:26] <mib_mt72c5n9> so any idea how i can play my videos off my ntfs drive that i can't mount.  its 750gb and its full so i can't format
[00:26] <dman777> anyone running linux on a macbook here?
[00:26] <drowner> mib_mt72c5n9: Why won't it mount?
[00:26] <KillerOrca> ActionParsnip, it is just for data.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | mib_mt72c5n9
[00:26] <Dreamglider> mib_mt72c5n9, you'll have to mount it
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> KillerOrca: then it shouldnt interfere really. weird. i'd reconfigure the settings as if they have never been set
[00:27] <mib_mt72c5n9> um i reinstalled windows but it was something like force it to do it in the terminal.  i did what it said but it didn't work
[00:27] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: do you mean hardware without a running driver?
[00:27] <mib_mt72c5n9> cool thanks i'll read through it
[00:28] <dcomxx> is it possible to add the current time to each ping ?
[00:28] <KillerOrca> ActionParsnip, ok how would I do that via command line?
[00:28] <Davide> ActionParsnip: I'm installing xchat on ubuntu so I can paste that stuff
[00:28] <rNaReplicasex> ActionParsnip Crap, I didn't copy that script right.  Could you give me the configure command again?
[00:28] <felix_da_catz> Davide: pastebin.ca works for pasting as well
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: sure, execute date before the ping, youu may have to have a script to run date then the ping repeatedly
[00:29] <MementoMori> dcomxx: using a little basj script you can
[00:29] <SiegeLord> My mouse pointer randomly jumps to the bottom of the screen. Any ideas on how to fix that? I'm on Ubuntu 8.10
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> rNaReplicasex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:29] <dcomxx> when i write date before then it prints the date only once ..
[00:29]  * rNaReplicasex properly writes it down
[00:29] <rNaReplicasex> Thanks.
[00:29] <MementoMori> dcomxx: using a little bash script you can
[00:29] <dcomxx> and how would that look like ? :)
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> !mouse | SiegeLord
[00:29] <lukeW> hi - i have a question about networking... i have a samsung nc10 - which has an atheros wifi card.. i'm using the ath5k driver and the performance isn't very good - should i move to the madfi driver?
[00:29] <Davide-buntu> ActionParsnip: ok so how did you want me to give you that info?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: thats why you need a script to repeat it
[00:30] <felix_da_catz> dcomxx:  You will have to run ping with an option to only ping once.  Then repeat the date and ping one more time.
[00:30] <linny> Davide-buntu: lspci
[00:30] <MementoMori> dcomxx: it's very simple. if you gimme a couple of mins i'll write it for you
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: run terminal    lspci
[00:30] <Davide-buntu> ok and just paste in here?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: one line will identify the card, write its name in here
[00:30] <Davide-buntu> or pm?
[00:30] <Davide-buntu> kk
[00:30] <dcomxx> but wont it flood then ?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: paste the SINGLE line in here
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: no, i only asked for one line :)
[00:31]  * drowner prepares for lspciflood
[00:31] <_Brun0_> MementoMori, "do you mean hardware without a running driver" yep, that would work
[00:31] <felix_da_catz> lol
[00:31] <dcomxx> yea mementomori pls :D
[00:31] <Davide-buntu> 02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> awesome (but no as its a creative thing)
[00:32] <ariqs> the file doesn't show up on my vista computer even with fat32 format AND renaming the file to something else
[00:32] <eseven73> Davide, you still having sound cards? I remember you from last night, well at least you're not giving up :D
[00:33] <Davide-buntu> ActionParsnip: Just to give you some more info, I tried a few things:  I checked alsamixer, and made sure verything was unmuted, I disabled what the system was recognizing as onboard audio, even though there is no onboard audio on the MB
[00:33] <Cappy|Here> how might I install a .rpm in ubuntu?
[00:33] <Davide-buntu> did that in bios
[00:33] <eseven73> !rpm | Cappy|Here
[00:33] <Davide-buntu> followed a few sets of instructions to try to fix it and got lost...
[00:33] <Davide-buntu> eseven73:  yes still problemsx
[00:33] <SiegeLord> ActionParsnip, Those two links don't seem to have anything useful in them
[00:33] <mewmew> cappy what program are you trying to install?
[00:34] <SiegeLord> It's a USB mouse, but this happens even with the mouse detached
[00:34] <KillerOrca> ActionParsnip, no luck I'm afraid
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: disable the onboard sound in the bios
[00:34] <Cappy|Here> eseven73, thanks for your help.
[00:34] <eseven73> Davide, well you're in good hands with ActionParsnip, hang in there :)
[00:34] <Davide> ActionParsnip I already did
[00:34] <ariqs> I'm copying over a .rar file to a flash drive, and when I put it in my vista computer, the .rar doesn't show up. When I put it back in my comp running ubuntu, it's there. What might cause  this? even renaming the file doesn't help
[00:34] <eseven73> cappy np :D
[00:35] <MementoMori> dcomxx: you can use something like that
[00:35] <twolane> Davide-buntu: run asoundconf in terminal
[00:35] <MementoMori> for p in $(seq 10); do date; ping -c1 www.google.it ; done
[00:35] <Stupendoussteve> ariqs: Are you unmounting the flash drive in ubuntu before removing it?
[00:35] <SiegeLord> Oh, nvm... had my stylus on my tablet >_<
[00:35] <SiegeLord> Thanks
[00:35] <ariqs> Stupendoussteve, no, actually. I'm not
[00:35] <Stupendoussteve> ariqs: Also, what filesystem do you have on the flash drive? If it isn't fat then Windows won't be able to see anything on it
[00:35] <ariqs> fat32
[00:36] <MementoMori> dcomxx: dont remove the -c ping parameter
[00:36] <sveakex> what's the default gtk theme that ubuntu uses?
[00:36] <ariqs> Stupendoussteve, but the file shows up fine on ubuntu
[00:36] <proq> ariqs: have you googled to see if vista is ignoring it because of DRM?
[00:36] <Sh3r1ff> ariqs:  not properly unmounting it is your problem ;)
[00:37] <Davide-buntu> twolane: then what?
[00:37] <_Brun0_> MementoMori, so how can I list hardware without running driver?
[00:37] <twolane> Davide-buntu: set the default card and restart the sound service
[00:37] <ariqs> ok, copeied, unmounted. I'll go see if it works now
[00:37] <adante> hi, i have a "stale nfs file handle" on my /boot, it happens to be a kernel image
[00:38] <Davide-buntu> twolane:  like this:  asoundconf set-default-card Audigy
[00:38] <adante> how can i remove this and and possibly try to reinstall kernel?
[00:38] <Davide-buntu> ?
[00:38] <MusicGenious> what does it mean if your power supply is making a hi pitched noise and the computer wont turn on?
[00:38] <shantzu> hello
[00:38] <twolane> Davide-buntu: looks good, i'd need tol  check
[00:38] <Sh3r1ff> MusicGenious: that you have a problem with your power supply ;)
[00:38] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: you cant directly or at least I dont know if it's possible but you can have a list of all the hw you've plugged in and then check the log to know which driver is managing you hw
[00:38] <drowner> MusicGenious: Doesn't sound good. Your power supply is broken?
[00:39] <MusicGenious> is it a fixable problem or not?
[00:39] <cchaos> Hello
[00:39] <MusicGenious> idk, im fixing my friends computer and he doesnt know anything about them
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-463921.html
[00:39] <Sh3r1ff> MusicGenious: best bet is to replace the power supply
[00:39] <drowner> MusicGenious: Difficult to say.
[00:39] <sebsebseb> cchaos: hi
[00:39] <MusicGenious> and i was like ok, ill throw a clean version of xp on it and we're good... nope lol.
[00:39] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: you can list your hw using lspci or lsusb
[00:39] <shantzu> if i run ubuntu with the 2.6.27-14 kernel version, when ubuntu loads the display gets dimmed. if i run the 2.6.27-11 kernel everything's fine. any idea what could be wrong or how i could make the screen always be 100% bright? (i checked power settings and brightness is set at 100% ...)
[00:39] <cchaos> sebsebseb: he
[00:39] <drowner> MusicGenious: Are you saying it turned on OK before you installed XP?
[00:39] <cchaos> sebsebseb: Hi
[00:40] <MusicGenious> no i didnt install anything yet, it just wont turn on
[00:40] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: and you should check dmesg output and /var/log/messages
[00:40] <usser> MusicGenious, well, reseat all memory modules, expansion cards, check all cables etc, the usual stuff
[00:40] <scunizi> shantzu: did you manually install a video card driver?
[00:40] <adante> hi, can someone help me get rid of a stale nfs file handle on my /boot
[00:40] <MusicGenious> and he said it turns on but sometimes it doesnt and stuff? idk
[00:40] <cchaos> MusicGenious: reset the BIOS
[00:40] <shantzu> scunizi: i can't recall, i think i installed some ATI Driver, not sure though. could that be related to it?
[00:40] <MusicGenious> the noise it makes is scary as shit, like when i unplug the power cable from it it sounds like something is gonna explode
[00:41] <cchaos> Sounds like someone has been playing with it
[00:41] <MusicGenious> how do you reset the bios?
[00:41] <usser> MusicGenious, pull the battery out for 5 minutes
[00:41] <cchaos> MusicGenious: Look for jumper, or take out the batter
[00:41] <cchaos> MusicGenious: Look for jumper, or take out the battery
[00:41] <scunizi> shantzu: yes.. when you manually install an ati or nvidia driver it build a kernel mod.. with a new kernel you typically have to reinstall the driver
[00:41] <MusicGenious> are you talking about the little button battery?
[00:42] <cchaos> MusicGenious: yes
[00:42] <dcomxx> i found a shell script .. but how can i make it to repeat every second like normal ping command ? -> http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/6446-script-ping-date.html
[00:42] <MementoMori> dcomxx: did you got my script?
[00:42] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[00:42] <MusicGenious> ill try that and let you know in like 5 mins
[00:42] <jdu> dcomxx, run it in a loop with "sleep 1"
[00:42] <dcomxx> yea but thats flooding ..
[00:42] <Davide-buntu> TURN OFF the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack switch.
[00:42] <Davide-buntu> ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:42] <MementoMori> dcomxx: it cant flood
[00:43] <caindlazz0909> hey guys anyone use vmware workstation?
[00:43] <MementoMori> only 10 pings
[00:43] <Davide-buntu> OMG ALL THESE HOURS!!!! AND THAT'S ALL IT TOOK TO GET SOUND!!!!!!!
[00:43] <shantzu> scunizi: so if i boot in the 2.6.27-14 kernel and reinstall that driver it should run fine?
[00:43] <dcomxx> well it doesnt wait 1 sec
[00:43] <MementoMori> dcomxx: use sleep 1
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: creative garbage cards are weird at best
[00:43] <usser> dcomxx, remove -c 1 from the ping command
[00:43] <MementoMori> dcomxx: no
[00:43] <DJJeff> my sound has never worked (ubuntu 810) whats the fastest way to fix
[00:43] <Davide-buntu> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much!!!
[00:43] <MementoMori> dcomxx: dont do it
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: np man
[00:43] <caindlazz0909> vmware in ubuntu that is
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> !vmware | caindlazz0909
[00:44] <Davide-buntu> ActionParsnip:  should I have anything else disabled for sound to optimal? do you know?
[00:44] <MementoMori> usser: dont suggest solutions you havent tried
[00:44] <scunizi> shantzu: that's my thought
[00:44] <usser> MementoMori, oh yea thats right, it doesnt return. my bad
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: not as far as i know, if it works then let it bake
[00:45] <Davide> SWEEEEET
[00:45] <dcomxx> um then what now ?
[00:45] <shantzu> scunizi: btw, in 2.6.27-11 everything ran fine without me having to install anything, the driver i installed was just for better support of ATI video boards afaik, shouldn't that also run fine on the other kernel version, without me having to do anything?
[00:45] <vlad> how do i change the desktop to something more familiar
[00:45] <drowner> vlad: which bits are unfamiliar?
[00:46] <MementoMori> dcomxx: ?
[00:46] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: you're not talking about installing windows are you? ;)
[00:46] <MementoMori> dcomxx: what you need more?
[00:46] <Davide> ActionParsnip: If I could play the Karate Kid Song for you right now I would.. the one that plays during the 1st tournament:  YOU'RE THE BEST.... AROOOOOUND. NOTHING'S GONNA EVER KEEP YOU DOWN.. YOU'RE THE BEST... AROOOOOUND!!!
[00:46] <vlad> the whole stacking thing,the alignment,and shortcuts
[00:46] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: Move things around? :D
[00:46] <riegersn> is there anyway to print out a full package list of all installed packages in ubuntu? i need to compare 2 systems
[00:46] <dcomxx> well i dont have anything yet ...
[00:47] <unop> riegersn,  dpkg -l
[00:47] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: Most of the keyboard shortcuts are the same as in Windows
[00:47] <MementoMori> dcomxx: you have a script running 10 pings every sec and printing the date
[00:47] <vlad> aha,I have some experience with suse
[00:47] <lukeW> does anyone know here know about wifi drivers?
[00:47] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: So you're used to kde :) You may prefer kubuntu
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Davide: thanks :D
[00:48] <lukeW> specifically ath5k vs madwifi?
[00:48] <vlad> no kde is too slow
[00:48] <dcomxx> yea but i need to run forever
[00:48] <dmulholland> hey, does anyone know how I can pass the g++ library to the gfortran compiler so I can link my application?
[00:48] <dcomxx> and i also want the seq numbers
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> lukeW: lspci; lsusb will tell you what chip you have, you can websearch from there
[00:48] <MementoMori> dcomxx: so convert it to a while loop
[00:48] <lukeW> ActionParsnip; I know the chip
[00:48] <vlad> is there a graphic interface for shorewall
[00:48] <lukeW> it's atheros
[00:49] <lukeW> ActionParsnip; but I know that there are a range of drivers... specifically ath5k vs madwifi?
[00:49] <jdu> dcomxx,       while [ true ]; do yourcommand; sleep 1; done
[00:49] <dcomxx> can i do that like in c ?
[00:49] <MementoMori> dcomxx: read the ping and printf man pages for having a better output
[00:49] <Sh3r1ff> vlad, shorewall is already a frontend for iptables, what more do you want? ;)
[00:49] <vlad> and how do I use ssh,can you point me to a good tut
[00:49] <MementoMori> dcomxx: bash syntax is different from c
[00:50] <vlad> graphics interface?
[00:50] <MementoMori> dcomxx: but uses the same idea
[00:50] <dcomxx> #!/bin/bash
[00:50] <dcomxx> LOG=~/ping.log
[00:50] <dcomxx> while[true];
[00:50] <dcomxx> do NOW=$(date)
[00:50] <dcomxx>  OUT=$(ping 131.130.1.11 | grep packets)
[00:50] <FloodBot2> dcomxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <dcomxx>  echo "$NOW : $OUT" >>$LOG;
[00:50] <vlad> why was the root account locked initially?
[00:51] <dcomxx> sry
[00:51] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: That's how it's shipped. I believe to discourage users from running as root all the time
[00:51] <tritium> !root | vlad
[00:51] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: to my knowledge shorewall doesn't have one, but the config files should be pretty easy to fill i
[00:51] <dcomxx> did that come thru ?
[00:51] <vlad> took me forever to make ubuntu login as oot
[00:51] <MementoMori> dcomxx: where has  the -c opt gone?
[00:51] <drowner> vlad: why do you want to login as root?
[00:51] <dcomxx> i removed ..
[00:51] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: You have to set a root password, but you shouldn't login as root anyway. Su maybe
[00:52] <dcomxx> i need that again i guess
[00:52] <MementoMori> dcomxx: bad
[00:52] <lukeW> ubottu - what aboyt sudo -s?
[00:52] <lukeW> *about
[00:52] <lukeW> ah
[00:52] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: ubuntu has root not enabled for security reasons, instead you have sudo
[00:52] <MementoMori> vlad: sudo passwd root
[00:52] <vlad> yeah I have done all that,and took care of gdm too
[00:52] <dcomxx>  OUT=$(ping -c 1 131.130.1.11 | grep packets)
[00:52] <lukeW> tritium, what about sudo -s
[00:52] <lukeW> ?
[00:52] <unop> !supportroot | MementoMori
[00:52] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: normally, you should never log on or connect to a system as root
[00:52] <tritium> lukeW: what about it?  use sudo -i instead
[00:52] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: I hope by "take care" of gdm you don't meant you're logging in as root. That is a very bad idea
[00:53] <lukeW> tritium; it's pretty similar to root tho isn't it?
[00:53] <vlad> I now,but I wanted to have the option
[00:53] <vlad> I prefer su to sudo
[00:53] <lukeW> tritium; what does -i do?
[00:53] <tritium> lukeW: yes
[00:53] <MementoMori> unop: here where I live people say: "put the donkey where the boss wants"
[00:53] <drowner> vlad: Why? I'm just curious. I've used ubuntu for 5 years without logging in as root. I can't see what you need the option for
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> lukeW: if you websearch the output you will find something
[00:53] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: you can use sudo su ;)
[00:53] <dcomxx> damm to many syntax errors
[00:53] <vlad> New user ,used to suse
[00:53] <tritium> lukeW: gives you root's env. config.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !paste | dcomxx
[00:54] <tritium> vlad: read that URL from ubottu.  If you want a root shell, best to use "sudo -i"
[00:54] <lukeW> ActionParsnip; I've found that the ath5k are the new drivers.. but development is ongoing, which is maybe why my performance sucks... i've just compiled the madwifi drivers, i'll try those
[00:54] <unop> MementoMori, if you like to do what your boss says 24 hours a day, 7 days a week .. then by all means, put his donkey where he wants .. but most of us aren't robots who are here all the time.
[00:54] <Anacranom> MementoMori, plz stop suggesting that, vlad if you must, then use sudo -i
[00:54] <dcomxx> http://pastebin.com/d2be2e551
[00:54] <dcomxx> could someone fix that fast ? :D
[00:55] <dcomxx> i dont know shell syntax
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> lukeW: just keep trying stuff til you get something nice
[00:55] <vlad> what about NFS?
[00:55] <vlad> how do I configure it
[00:55] <MementoMori> dcomxx: if you say fast you should say please, too ;)
[00:55] <lukeW> ActionParsnip; yeah.. that's the way with linux, isn't it ;)
[00:55] <dcomxx> yes please ! :)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> lukeW: indeed
[00:55] <lukeW> good job i enjoy tweaking
[00:55] <tritium> !nfs | vlad
[00:55] <Anacranom> vlad, from client or server?
[00:55] <MementoMori> lol
[00:56] <MementoMori> dcomxx: i'm looking at your script
[00:56] <MementoMori> so just wait
[00:56] <vlad> I know I want to share some files-transfer them to the new pc
[00:56] <dcomxx> ok thanx
[00:56] <lukeW> the cloud stuff in 9.04 - is this any use to regular users using desktop?
[00:56] <vlad> both
[00:57] <vlad> server on suse,ckient on ubuntu
[00:57] <vlad> possibli server on ubuntu
[00:57] <cchaos> !virtual box
[00:58] <unop> dcomxx, what's wrong with the script?
[00:58] <dcomxx> syntax errors
[00:58] <elchi3001> hello, i am recently installed the jaunty netbook remix and have a problem with loosing the top panel, after restarting it i get a mesage that says the gcon-d is not replying, is this a known problem?
[00:58] <Anacranom> vlad, for nfs client look here: http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50&Itemid=52
[00:58] <eseven73> !virtualbox | cchaos
[00:58] <usser> dcomxx, http://pastebin.com/m753acfd5
[00:58] <vlad> thanks!
[00:59] <cchaos> eseven73: thanks
[00:59] <vlad> bye
[00:59] <cchaos> Just fancied a read lol
[00:59] <solemnwarning> What kernel version is ubuntu using atm?
[01:00] <MementoMori> dcomxx: http://pastebin.com/m4e2bab53
[01:00] <_Brun0_> MementoMori, lspci -l lists only running hardware?
[01:01] <dcomxx> and how can i get it to show the usual ping output now ? it shows always 0 ms and no seq numbers
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> _Brun0_: it shows all hardware on the pci bus
[01:01] <MementoMori> dcomxx: remove the grep
[01:01] <usser> MementoMori, why are you putting semicolons at the end of each line??
[01:02] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: lspci will show evey plugged hw
[01:02] <DavidePalm> lol
[01:02] <MementoMori> usser: i like them
[01:02] <usser> hehe
[01:02] <DavidePalm> lol
[01:02] <MementoMori> ;)
[01:02] <Kangarooo> i cannot get my video card working i installed from synaptic ati and rage driver packages searching synaptic.. so i suppose xubuntu / ubuntu doesnt automatically understands what video card i have and doesnt instals it?        lspci -v     gives     VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP
[01:02] <unop> dcomxx, http://pastebin.com/d304cc27
[01:02] <MementoMori> i dont use ; sonly in python scripts
[01:03] <racecar56> lol rage 128
[01:03] <MementoMori> racecar56: dont laught! ;)
[01:04] <MementoMori> racecar56: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev 01)
[01:04] <proq> Kangarooo: yes, it does work automatically on ubuntu 8 and 9
[01:04] <_Brun0_> brb
[01:04] <racecar56> MementoMori i dont know what to say
[01:05] <proq> Kangarooo: it's also possible you installed the wrong package
[01:05] <MementoMori> racecar56: old cards are still working
[01:05] <Anacranom> Kangarooo, ati+linux = sucks, but getting better and fixes on the way
[01:05] <racecar56> MementoMori lolz
[01:05] <racecar56> sadly i have ati too :(
[01:05] <kristian_> any html/css experts out there that have time/want to have a look at my html/css, only layout.
[01:05] <Sh3r1ff> usser: it is best to use ; because newline characters are interpreted different on different types of os'es, while ; is not ;)
[01:05] <matt___> I was wondering if there is some sort of "program" I can install my server, and view a "webpage" from the server on my nokian810, and click visual icons that will be interpreted as bash commands for the system. Example, click a shutdown button on the page, and the server shutsdown. I guess I'm looking for a way for the computer to interpret html/php as bash commands?
[01:05] <dcomxx> the 2nd one doesnt work ...
[01:06] <MementoMori> racecar56: to be honest i use that card in a headless pc
[01:06] <racecar56> MementoMori ok
[01:06] <usser> Sh3r1ff, i cant imagine bash being ported to windows :)
[01:06] <mkasson> what cpus are meant for the 64 bit version of (k)ubuntu?
[01:06] <unop> usser, heard of cygwin/uwin?
[01:06] <usser> mkasson, amd64 newer intels
[01:06] <usser> unop, thats not native.
[01:06] <mkasson> usser, how new of an intel?
[01:06] <usser> mkasson, core 2 duos
[01:07] <cchaos> VB seems complicated lol
[01:07] <Sh3r1ff> usser: there is more then one version of linux, there is the many forms unix comes in, ... those are different also ;)
[01:07] <MementoMori> dcomxx: I think you'd be better with a bash programming howto below your eyes
[01:07] <unop> usser, yea?  so what executable format are cygwin's executables?
[01:07] <MementoMori> !help
[01:07] <mkasson> usser: ah cool.  pretty certain I have that
[01:07] <MementoMori> !bash howto
[01:07] <Stupendoussteve> !google | MementoMori
[01:07] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[01:07] <MementoMori> also ubottu should study more
[01:07] <CareT> matt___:  have you tried webmin?
[01:07] <mkasson> yep. got C2D.
[01:08] <usser> unop, cygwin is an emulation layer, i mean something standalone like powershell
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> !webmin
[01:08] <BilokShem> who wants to DIE!!?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> BilokShem: i do eventually
[01:08] <MementoMori> Stupendoussteve: I was told to not paste non official links in chan
[01:08] <unop> usser,  you can take cygwin's bash.exe out of the context of the cygwin environment - and it will run fine
[01:08] <usser> unop, really? cool
[01:08] <BilokShem> ActionParsnip: TIME TO DIE!
[01:09] <weternal> is jaunty still in the +1 support channel?
[01:09] <matt___> CareT: I've tried nothing, but looking at webmin right now.
[01:09] <unop> weternal, yes
[01:09] <usser> unop, so the script written in cygwin bash, will have windows' 13,10 newline character?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> weternal: yep
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | matt___
[01:09] <Stupendoussteve> MementoMori: I didn't paste anything. If there's something non-ubuntu you can't figure out, google is your friend
[01:10] <weternal> when is the final date of the RC?\
[01:10] <RedMushroom> does anyone in here know anything about freenx remote desktop connections? i got it set up, but i cant see the active windows on the server desktop, nor can i see the client view on the server
[01:10] <usser> unop, i mean if i use cygwin vi for example
[01:10] <unop> usser, you can't write a script with bash tho :) you can write one with an editor -- but cygwin's bash will probably choke on the carriage returns
[01:10] <Sh3r1ff> weternal: 23 april
[01:10] <weternal> thanks
[01:10] <usser> unop, thats interesting, now i gotta try it
[01:10] <dcomxx> dam this is stupid .. i want a summary at the end :(
[01:10] <unop> usser, i dunno for sure, but cygwin's bash might ignore carriage returns .. like how perl or python do on windows
[01:11] <matt___> ActionParsnip: So do you have any suggestions? All I rally want to do is setup a page I can access from within my house to make repetive tasks easier.
[01:11] <centHOGGr> hi, I've checked out Rnews,Wordpress & Gallery2... what are some other web-based php progs like those? thx
[01:11] <matt___> ActionParsnip: And access the page from my nokia n810.
[01:11] <MementoMori> dcomxx: which end if your script must run "forever"
[01:11] <dcomxx> when its stopped ...
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> matt___: could write a bash script
[01:11] <MementoMori> dcomxx: which kind of summary?
[01:11] <dcomxx> like the normal ping shows
[01:11] <Sh3r1ff> dcomxx: while true never ends ;)
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> matt___: depends what repetative tasks it involves
[01:11] <dcomxx> how many packets were lost and such things
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> matt___: and access it with an ssh client
[01:12] <LargePrime> greetings.  I need a recommendation for a webcam with mic
[01:12] <RedMushroom> does anyone here know how to use FreeNX?
[01:12] <dcomxx> why cant they just add a time opetion to ping -.-
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> !ot | LargePrime
[01:12] <MementoMori> dcomxx: this is really studip ;) anyway you can find a way to store the last ping summary in a var
[01:12] <dcomxx> option*
[01:12] <matt___> ActionParsnip: The most basic thing is shutdown my server. like today I was in the living room, and it started storming, I wanted to shutdown my server, but didn't want to type stuff. The power ended up going off, etc etc. I use ssh all the time, but am just hoping that there is an easy way to setup a php/html page, that way I don't have to ssh into the machine and type out words.
[01:13] <LargePrime> greetings.  I need a recommendation for a webcam with mic compatable with ubuntu
[01:13] <RedMushroom> why cant i see wjat'
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> !ot | LargePrime
[01:13] <RedMushroom> bleh
[01:13] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: you mean that NX no machine remote?
[01:13] <RedMushroom> yeah
[01:13] <RedMushroom> and the server with it
[01:13] <RedMushroom> used on linux
[01:13] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: yeah I've use it a few times I think.. do you have all 3 components loaded up?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> matt___: theres ebox, if you dont intend to install apps in ubuntu with it then webmin is a fine choice
[01:14] <Barridus> if i added noatime and nodiratime to fstab to speed disk access, should i remove relatime?
[01:14] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: on your client side
[01:14] <RedMushroom> well, on the linux box i installed all of the available components listed in the package manager, so i'm assuming i do.
[01:14] <RedMushroom> on the client side, i dunno. i had to d/l the client from a third party source (cnet) because the nomachine site wouldn't send it
[01:14] <mib_v3l51d> hi how can i check the version of pm-utils?
[01:14] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: ok lemme that site out to refresh brb
[01:15] <RedMushroom> centHOGGr: say what?
[01:15] <kb1hzm> hello all
[01:15] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: http://www.linux.com/feature/118896 link suggests webcams may be difficult.  how is asking here ot?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> mib_v3l51d: dpkg -l | grep pm-
[01:15] <matt___> ActionParsnip: I'll note both of them.
[01:15] <mib_v3l51d> thanks ActionParsnip
[01:16] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: ok you've loaded client node server right?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: as you are not asking how to set one up, or that youu are having issues in ubuntu with one. you are asking for a recommendation which is offtopic here
[01:16] <centHOGGr> DEBs
[01:16] <centHOGGr> 3 DEBs
[01:16] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: excep if i ASK first, i dont need to come here to get it working?
[01:17] <unop> dcomxx, http://pastebin.com/d4ee5242e
[01:17] <aboleth> well i guess i'm going
[01:17] <aboleth> bye
[01:17] <RedMushroom> i dunno. i'm able to setup a connection to the remote machine, login, and see gnome in the nx window. i'm also able to use this normally, but i'm wanting to be able to see what windows i left open on the remote desktop, not just a new login
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: the recomendation is in #ubuntu-offtopic  if you have one and need help setting it up, you are in the right place
[01:18] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: heh, sorry I really haven't messed with it that intensly, but I got connectivity though
[01:18] <tsLight> I have configured NAT in iptables typing "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE". Now I want to disable it to test something, how can I do that?
[01:18] <RedMushroom> ok then, thanks. later
[01:19] <Spreadsheet> Hello, I am sshing into a Ubuntu machine from Windows, is there any way I can open a text file on that computer using a Windows program?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> !ics | tsLight
[01:19] <Spreadsheet> On this computer that is
[01:19] <centHOGGr> hi, anybody here really into apache & php?
[01:19] <Flannel> !anyone | centHOGGr
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: you'd need to samba share the folder, if you install xming on windows you will be able to run the windows apps using x forwrding which is enabled by default
[01:20] <centHOGGr> ubuntu police
[01:20] <matt___> ActionParsnip: Ok, ebox, can it "link" to bash scripts?
[01:20] <tsLight> ActionParsnip, the internet sharing is already working :P, I just want to know how to disable or remove that rule from iptables
[01:20] <mib_v3l51d> how long does it usually take for people to reply to bug reports?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> matt___: if they are in /usr/bin i dont see why nbot
[01:20] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: What? That was confusing. So if I install xming I can run the windows app?
[01:21] <Flannel> centHOGGr: Unless you *actually* wanted to know if anyone uses Apache and PHP (and weren't going to ask a follow up question), then you've already waited at least two minutes where you could have had an answer.
[01:21] <matt___> ActionParsnip: Well, I'll try it. Will the 8.04 version work in 8.10?
[01:21] <unop> tsLight, you'd use the -F or -X options to iptables .. see the manpage
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: no, you install xming to get an x server running on your windows system
[01:21] <MementoMori> dcomxx: echo $(date) -  $(ping -c1 google.it | grep ttl);
[01:21] <tsLight> unop, thanks
[01:21] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: I see
[01:21] <Spreadsheet> So then I can run, say gedit, on the Windows comp?
[01:21] <centHOGGr> php & apache into really here anybody hi
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: if you then run gedit or kate from the ssh window, the app will run on the local system but on the windows system you will SEE the app, this is known as x forwarding
[01:22] <unop> centHOGGr, ask a real question please.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: so you can then edit the file with a gui app
[01:22] <centHOGGr> is Flannel a bot
[01:22] <centHOGGr> bot-check
[01:22] <unop> centHOGGr, no
[01:22] <Flannel> centHOGGr: Please stay on topic.
[01:22] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: OK
[01:22] <centHOGGr> hi, anybody here really into apache & php?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: alternatively you can use nano / vi which run in the ssh app as a plain text editor
[01:22] <centHOGGr> I'd like to know some other progs
[01:22] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: I've been using those, kinda uncomfortable
[01:22] <Sh3r1ff> !ask | centHOGGr
[01:22] <Flannel> centHOGGr: Then ask your real question
[01:23] <centHOGGr> !police
[01:23] <centHOGGr> !ubuntu police
[01:23] <Spreadsheet> The gedit is running on the Linux machine, but I can interact with gedit on the Windows machine, yes?
[01:23]  * unop waits for centHOGGr to be kicked
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> matt___: you will need an intrepid deb for webmin as the 8.04 ones are for hardy
[01:23] <MementoMori> lol
[01:23] <Sh3r1ff> centHOGGr: unless you ask a real question, nobody is able to assist you ;)
[01:24] <Sh3r1ff> Flannel: just hope is actual question was not just if somebody here was into apache ;)
[01:24] <MementoMori> which is the sound of a falling centHOGGr if nobody is there?
[01:24] <Flannel> Sh3r1ff: If it was, he should've said something, and I could've said "yes".
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: See above comment
[01:24] <unop> Spreadsheet, if the windows machine has an X server running (through cygwin e.g.) then yea, you could interact with gedit running on a *nix machine.
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> My last one
[01:25] <matt___> ActionParsnip: This is exactly what I want do: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/63565-calling-bash-html.html If I installed a LAMP server from an ubuntu server disk, will cgi access work?
[01:25] <Spreadsheet> unop: Will Xming work?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> matt___: its not something ive used, i always use ssh
[01:25] <Sh3r1ff> Flannel: was just making a joke ;)
[01:25] <unop> Spreadsheet, i don't know very much about it .. but yea, it should
[01:25] <Spreadsheet> unop: Hmm, ok
[01:26] <matt___> ActionParsnip: I love ssh as well, but typing on my nokia n810 isn't incredibly fun.
[01:26] <unop> matt___, can you create script on your nokia?
[01:26] <unop> scripts*
[01:27] <Sh3r1ff> matt___: create a script so you just have to type the name of the script ;)
[01:27] <Sh3r1ff> matt___: any phone supports sms, so typing is enabled by default ;)
[01:27] <unop> matt___, or better still .. map the script to an icon so you just have to click it
[01:27] <sdlwof> !offtopic
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> matt___: you could make a script on your nokia to connect and autorun an app ;)
[01:28] <spaceBARbarian> anyone know how to get exaile to import a directory into your library folder ?
[01:28] <matt___> unop: That's what I'm wanting to do.
[01:29] <matt___> ActionParsnip: That could work, but I've never ssh'd into something in a script. BUt I could make a script on my nokia so that all I have to do is "Server-Shutdown"
[01:29] <unop> matt___, well - what I am talking about is an icon on the phone itself that invokes a script (on the phone again) which uses ssh to connect to your machine and run a command
[01:29] <MementoMori> is there a valid entity-relation program a linux user can use? (please dont tell dia)
[01:29] <matt___> ActionParsnip: And if it did it without any prompts, that'd work remarkebly well.
[01:30] <unop> matt___, ssh you@machine 'commands ... '
[01:30] <bruce89> sebsebseb: is that better?
[01:30] <unop> matt___, if you enable public key authentication .. then you don't even need to type a password
[01:30] <sebsebseb> bruce89: I guess, but  only if you help people and such, and not just lurk here
[01:30] <rodolfo> guys how can i identify my current network adapter working at the moment?
[01:31] <sveakex> rodolfo: ifconfig?
[01:31] <bruce89> sebsebseb: with 1325 here, who's going to notice
[01:31] <Peach> Hello there.  I need some serious help.  Running IBEX.  Something went wrrong my a change over to the nvidia177 driver today. I rebooed and I get the following error.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148675/
[01:31] <MementoMori> rodolfo: iftop
[01:31] <Peach> PLEASE HELP.
[01:31] <Mike_lifeguard> I want to delete a folder in /usr/share but that doesn't appear in the context menu. I guess that means I don't have sufficient permissions there... can I do it with sudo in terminal or something?
[01:31] <sebsebseb> bruce89: true, but that's  not a good thing about this channel really, how loads of people in it, that never chat in it
[01:31] <matt___> unop: That will work, I'll just have to setup ssh keys for root, that way I don't have to use sudo in the command. Thanks, that'll workk.
[01:32] <matt___> unop: I think I like that idea :)
[01:32] <Sh3r1ff> Mike_lifeguard: normally yes
[01:32] <Floops> can youu install ubuntu on a g3 mac
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Mike_lifeguard: hi
[01:33] <Mike_lifeguard> Sh3r1ff: ok, so I'd use 'cd /usr/share' & then how to delete?
[01:33] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: hi
[01:33] <bruce89> Mike_lifeguard: anything outside of ~/ is not yours
[01:33] <Mike_lifeguard> hello, sebsebseb ^_^
[01:33] <Sh3r1ff> Mike_lifeguard: sudo rm <filename>
[01:33] <rodolfo> sveakex, MementoMori, I mean the hardware that's working so I can browser the net
[01:33] <bruce89> Mike_lifeguard: sudo rm -fr blah
[01:33] <HammerHead66> ﻿sebsebseb: hello
[01:33] <unop> Floops, I believe so .. I think Linus Torvalds uses a Mac G3
[01:33] <Sh3r1ff> Mike_lifeguard: make sure you have the right filename though, don't want to delete things you still need ;)
[01:33] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, thanks guys
[01:33] <xiamx> I have a dbus-python_0.82.4.orig.tar.gz  and diff.gz  .dsc file, how can I build this into deb package and install it?
[01:33] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: your here for Ubuntu help?
[01:33] <sveakex> rodolfo: ok
[01:34] <HammerHead66> no to help out when I can
[01:34] <rodolfo> sveakex, MementoMori, I used to use the intel wireless hardware to get connected but now I'm using ta new nobo with atheros driver
[01:34] <unop> xiamx, are they all in the same folder?
[01:34] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: your the guy,  I am thinking of?
[01:34] <xiamx> unop: yup
[01:34] <bruce89> xiamx: not that easy
[01:34] <bruce89> xiamx: you'll need to install pbuilder
[01:34] <TheBase> hello
[01:34] <HammerHead66> ﻿sebsebseb: for?
[01:34] <Peach> Hello there.  I need some serious help.  Running IBEX.  Something went wrrong my a change over to the nvidia177 driver today. I rebooed and I get the following error.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148675/
[01:34] <sebsebseb> TheBase: hi
[01:34] <unop> xiamx,   cd to that folder and issue this command.   apt-get source -b dbus-python
[01:34] <Floops> thanks unop .. i will try to install then
[01:35] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: American guy in Australlia?  that I helped with Ubuntu
[01:35] <sveakex> rodolfo: what atheros are you using?
[01:35] <rodolfo> sveakex There is the closed source driver available but neither one (open and closed drivers) are as good as intel..funny thing is on windows it really works
[01:35] <TheBase> I have a ubuntu 4.2 and I wanted to upgrade it to 8.10. Can that be done or is the version difference too long?
[01:35] <rodolfo> sveakex the open source driver
[01:35] <rodolfo> sveakex is this a driver issue?
[01:35] <HammerHead66> ﻿sebsebseb:  na, sorry you have the wrong guy man
[01:35] <bruce89> TheBase: 4.2?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: ok
[01:36] <sveakex> rodolfo: i am not sure what your question is
[01:36] <nicklas_> anyone here involved in or know anything about opengeu?
[01:36] <eseven73> 4.10 you mean?
[01:36] <Sh3r1ff> TheBase: how long have you not used it? ;)
[01:36] <TheBase> Bruce, I think so. This is my /proc/version :
[01:36] <TheBase> Linux version 2.6.24-23-generic (buildd@crested) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 01:04:16 UTC 2009
[01:36] <xiamx> unop: got it thanks
[01:36] <infomomo> how to know what tty my copm port is on ???
[01:36] <bruce89> TheBase: lsb_modules -a
[01:36] <Peach> All, I need help with a driver problem.  The problem driver can't be fixed.  Can only access terminal.
[01:36] <TheBase> Sh3r1ff, I've been using it. Just keeping my packages updated
[01:36] <xiamx> bruce89:  I got it from unop's way, thank you for your help anyway
[01:36] <bruce89> TheBase: lsb_release -a
[01:36] <YixilTesiphon> How do I install an older version of the kernel, which I have in cache?
[01:37] <Sh3r1ff> TheBase: 4.2 is the version of gcc, not ubuntu ;)
[01:37] <loquitus_of_borg> How do I extract the files out of a .deb file? I tried to open it with the archive manager but was not able to make much of it
[01:37] <TheBase> bruce89, 8.04 :p
[01:37] <rodolfo> sveakex I'm asking about performance
[01:37] <TheBase> 4.2 is the gcc then
[01:37] <bruce89> TheBase: do-release-upgrade for CLI way
[01:37] <rodolfo> sveakex I know this has to do with the driver being used so
[01:37] <judget__> Ive got this USB drive that had a e2fs partition yesterday and today it is gone
[01:37] <sveakex> rodolfo: so you are having worse perfomance with an atheros network card?
[01:37] <bruce89> loquitus_of_borg: look at the data.tar.gz in the deb
[01:38] <sveakex> rodolfo: than with the intel card?
[01:38] <rodolfo> sveakex which one should I choose, the open or closed source driverw
[01:38] <judget__> can anyone recomend a partition recovery utility for ubuntu
[01:38] <rodolfo> sveakex yeah
[01:38] <lfaraone> Hi, is there any multi-user video conferenceing software for linux? (as in more than two people)
[01:38] <TheBase> bruce89, cool. I'm guessing it will keep my data and now overwrite my user home, etc... , right?
[01:38] <rodolfo> sveakex neither wire/wireless network do NOT run as fast as it does on windows
[01:38] <bruce89> judget__: photorec
[01:39] <Peach> lfaraone... try OOVOO.  It has dl for windows & mac.  Maybe for linux.
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> judget__: foremost and dd_rescure
[01:39] <bruce89> TheBase: of course
[01:39] <sveakex> rodolfo: i'd go for the closed source driver, the people who make the card probably know how to make the best drivers for them
[01:39] <TheBase> bruce89, Just to make sure.
[01:39] <TheBase> :) Thanks
[01:39] <rodolfo> sveakex and I don't know how to identify the hardware in first place
[01:39] <sveakex> rodolfo: type lspci in the terminal and you will find the hardware you are using
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> judget__: foremost can scan bad partitions and copy data over that matches your criteria, easier way is to restore from your last backup
[01:39] <tleeonly> anybody know how to use the terminal to log on to a telnet bbs
[01:39] <rodolfo> sveakex yeah that makes sense
[01:40] <TheBase> do-release-upgrade
[01:40] <TheBase> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[01:40] <TheBase> No new release found
[01:40] <TheBase> :(
[01:40] <FloodBot2> TheBase: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <WebcamWonder> !upgrade | TheBase
[01:40] <TheBase> I'll check it
[01:40] <TheBase> thanks
[01:40] <Peach> Could someone please help with an nvidia issue.
[01:40] <Sh3r1ff> tleeonly: telnet IP? ;)
[01:40] <judget__> my last backup is aover a week old
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> TheBase: use gksudo
[01:40] <bruce89> TheBase: actually, do-release-upgrade -c maybe
[01:40] <tleeonly> i only have the address not the ip
[01:41] <Sh3r1ff> tleeonly: works as well ;)
[01:41] <bruce89> TheBase: LTS releases only check for LTSs you see
[01:41] <tleeonly> ok
[01:41] <R0b0t1> Is there perchance a way to see what drivers I have? I remember activating a proprietary one and I can't remember which one it is.
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> judget__: harsh, then recover what you can then use your backup to fill the holes of what is unrecoverable
[01:41] <rodolfo> sveakex please check it out @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/148685/
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> judget__: i dont believe the filenames are preserved if the corruption is sufficient
[01:41] <WebcamWonder> Peach: What is your problem? Someone might be able to help, if you tell us your problenm
[01:42] <Peach> WebCamWonder; Running IBEX.  Something went wrrong my a change over to the nvidia177 driver today. I rebooed and I get the following error.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148675/
[01:42] <sveakex> rodolfo: line 23 is your wireless card
[01:42] <TheBase> bruce89, I see. Thanks again
[01:42] <WebcamWonder> Peach: What were you switching from?
[01:42] <R0b0t1> Is there a way I can check which GFX driver I am using?
[01:43] <rodolfo> sveakex is it? i thought it is talking about the wireless LAN card adapter
[01:43] <kitchenrange> hey everyone im back with another noob mistake...
[01:43] <kitchenrange> :)
[01:43] <rodolfo> sveakex I'm currently using the wired connection -sorry I forgot to mention this-
[01:43] <dman777> anyone here using linux on a macbook?
[01:43] <Mike_lifeguard> I've connected an mp3 player to my computer via USB, but it is not recognized by ubuntu. Do I need to mount it as a drive or something to use it?
[01:43] <Peach> webcamwonder: Actually , Synaptci showed I had received an updated nvidia driver... somnething like 180 or something.  I was switching FROM 177 to 180.
[01:43] <WebcamWonder> R0b0t1: You can check the modules using, lsmod, but you need to have some hints regarding what module you are looking for
[01:43] <lfaraone> Peach: yeah, it looks like I'm out of luck. no *nix support.
[01:44] <sveakex> rodolfo: then you are using the hardware on line 22
[01:44] <R0b0t1> WebcamWonder: I think it was nVidia. I'm on an iMac.
[01:44] <Peach> lafaraone... 10-4.
[01:44] <Sh3r1ff> !ask | kitchenrange
[01:44] <rodolfo> sveakex ooops they're not the same -_-
[01:44] <kitchenrange> So, I was reading through on how to correctly use port forwarding, and I was editing my /etc/network/interfaces.  The problem is that I accidentally saved over my old one without backing up my old one.  How would i reset my network?  I wasnt asking sherriff
[01:44] <WebcamWonder> R0b0t1: lsmod | grep nvidia, if that returns anything, you are using closed source drivers, else open source
[01:45] <sveakex> rodolfo: hehe, one is wired, the other is wireless
[01:45] <WebcamWonder> Peach: So, are you even getting a GUI right now?
[01:45] <Mike_lifeguard> AH! opening rhythmbox makes it detected
[01:45] <tleeonly> thanks
[01:45] <Peach> WebCamWonder: no.  X won't start.  Can only access terminal.
[01:45] <R0b0t1> WebcamWonder: Nothing but I know it is proprietary
[01:45] <WebcamWonder> Peach: Go into X.org, and switch to nv
[01:45] <rodolfo> sveakex yep..since 'hardware driver' from ubuntu just tell me about the atheron closed source driver being available I think it's safe to say that I'm using the open source driver available for this adapter
[01:46] <rodolfo> sveakex and this is bad because I have no other option to switch...my connection is 3MB and it looks like 256Kbps
[01:46] <wzssyqa> the cuda toolkit is not Compatible with 9.04?
[01:46] <Mike_lifeguard> hmm, well the player detectes that it's connected & rhythmbox does too, but I still can't see any way to send files to the player :\
[01:46] <WebcamWonder> R0b0t1: Do a, lsmod | grep nv
[01:46] <Peach> how to swtich to nv in x.org?  You mean xorg.conf , not x?
[01:47] <kitchenrange> How would i reset my internet settings on ubuntu?
[01:47] <bruce89> rodolfo: that's average for here
[01:47] <Peach> plz. reword.  thanks.
[01:47] <rodolfo> sveakex then waht would you do?
[01:47] <scunizi> WebcamWonder: Peach it's not x.org buy sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf to switch to the nv driver.
[01:47] <sveakex> rodolfo: look around in the gnome menu to look for what drivers it is using
[01:47] <Mike_lifeguard> heh, because it's not supported in rhythmbox
[01:47] <scunizi> *buy=but
[01:47] <Titan8990> Peach, Driver "nv"  in xorg.conf
[01:47] <R0b0t1> WebcamWonder: Ok, well, I found it, but I can't find the version. ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRC graphics driver
[01:47]  * Mike_lifeguard searches for something that /does/ support that
[01:48] <Mike_lifeguard> Although, if I could just place files on the device manually, it'd work just fine
[01:48] <Peach> ok... I tried switching back to a previous, default xorg.conf file and it didn't work.
[01:48] <eseven73> whos gonna buy nano? I thought everything in linux was free? Hehe j/k scunizi :P
[01:48] <Mike_lifeguard> but that means mounting it, I assume
[01:48] <rodolfo> sveakex network tools?
[01:48] <scunizi> eseven73: :)
[01:48] <Sh3r1ff> eseven73: why use nano if you have vi? ;)
[01:48] <martin-> speed :P
[01:49] <eseven73> I heard that Sh3r1ff :D  my main nick is _VIM_
[01:49] <scunizi> Sh3r1ff: 'cause nano has a human readable menu :)
[01:49] <WebcamWonder> Peach: Could you pastebin your current xorg.conf?
[01:49] <sveakex> rodolfo: no, there should be an item which shows which drivers you are using
[01:49] <kitchenrange> This has to be one of the easiest questions ever asked on a regular basis in here, How would i reset my network settings?
[01:49] <Peach> unfortunately, no.
[01:50] <Peach> I'm on a seperate windows computer now.
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> Sh3r1ff: i find nano more human, vi has weird command mode which i personally find surplus and confusing
[01:50] <WebcamWonder> Peach: Do you have internet on that PC?
[01:50] <scunizi> kitchenrange: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart I believe
[01:50] <Raylz> i added users with adduser but they are not displayed in my gdm theme
[01:50] <lenevasconcellos> helo
[01:50] <Raylz> what can i do?
[01:50]  * eseven73 used to respect ActionParsnip 
[01:50] <eseven73> :P
[01:50] <Cyberman> Hi everyone!, I've a question... I'm pretty new at linux, I mean... I've installed it several times on my PC but i've gotten desperate and got back to Windows.... right now I'm trying to setup a "mythbuntu" box...
[01:50] <Peach> the weird thing is... I got the same error upon boot up as I did wit hthe other xorg.conf file.
[01:50] <bruce89> eseven73: heh
[01:51] <Peach> Actually, I had 3 backups and none of them had any affect.
[01:51] <unop> ActionParsnip, try going to line 5000 in a jiffy with nano :)
[01:51] <Sh3r1ff> scunizi, ActionParsnip: depends on what you want, if you get used to vi, it is as easily as nano, but way exceeds the possibilities of nano
[01:51] <Cyberman> My Motherboard is an Intel D975XBX with 6Gb DDR2 RAM and 2 160Gb hard drives...
[01:51] <WebcamWonder> Peach: That probably means you are still using the nvidia driver... oepn up xorg.conf, and tell me if you see a line something like Driver "nvidia"
[01:51] <Peach> one sec.
[01:51] <Cyberman> I'm tryint to setup my HDDs as a RAID 1 array
[01:52] <scunizi> Sh3r1ff: well.. OF COURSE.. vi is a mazaratti.. nano is a geo metro.. but most of us don't need a mazaratti to go from point a to b
[01:52] <Cyberman> so that I can get as much as 6Gbps out of my HDDs as well as 320GB of capacity...
[01:52] <Peach> WebCamWonder: yep... "Section Device"         Driver "nvidia"
[01:52] <kitchenrange> scunizi: for some reason it is telling me that command not found
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> unop: nano +107 filename
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> Peach: Great, backup the current xorg.conf (just for the sake of it), and change that to Driver "nv"
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> unop: will go to line 107 in nfilename ;)
[01:53] <Peach> doing it now.
[01:53] <Cyberman> when I run Mythbuntu's setup, it doesn't recognize the raid... instead, it recognizes two 160Gb HDDs....
[01:53] <Peach> done.
[01:53] <Peach> reboot?
[01:53] <scunizi> kitchenrange: then I got it wrong.. but the only wrong part is the "network" statement.. everything else remains..
[01:53] <Sh3r1ff> scunizi: indeed you don't, but if you are able to drive the mazaratti, i would pick the mazaratti ;)
[01:53] <luis_> hola
[01:53] <WebcamWonder> Peach: a, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, should do just fine :)
[01:53] <luis_> i am mexican...
[01:53] <crweb2> Cyberman, i don't believe ubuntu supports raid install via default
[01:53] <Peach> will do.
[01:53] <crweb2> Cyberman, you need a -alternative cd
[01:53] <eseven73> !es | luis_
[01:53] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, I can log into the server over ssh at "matt" without a password, but I cannot log into the system at all as root. I have to ssh in as matt and then sudo su. How can I fix this?
[01:53] <luis_> sorry my english is bad!
[01:53] <scunizi> Sh3r1ff: I'd be tempted to spin donuts around my text files :)
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> matt: you never sudo su, you sudo -i
[01:54] <luis_> mexicans??
[01:54] <luis_> spanish??
[01:54] <sebsebseb> !es |  luis_
[01:54] <eseven73> luis_, type /join #ubuntu-es
[01:54] <eseven73> sebsebseb, I did that already
[01:54] <bruce89> !mx | luis_
[01:54] <Cyberman> Windows instead recognizes only one 320Gb Hard drive.... can anyone tell me if there's like a "Windows F6" procedure?
[01:54] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok ok, but I cannot ssh in as root, which I want to do. Oh wait oh wait, ubuntu has the root account disabled by default doesn't it?
[01:54] <dawson> Hi I'm having a problem with Jaunty. For some reason it is not detecting my external usb drive until I replug it.
[01:54] <sebsebseb> eseven73: no
[01:54] <Sh3r1ff> scunizi: if you gatta spin, you might as well spin in style ;)
[01:54] <dawson> Any ideas what could be happening?
[01:54] <unop> ActionParsnip,  fair enough .. so you've gotten to line #107 .. now get to line #5000 without restarting nano :)
[01:54] <scunizi> bruce89: mx is a dirt bike
[01:54] <WebcamWonder> !jaunty | dawson
[01:54] <sebsebseb> eseven73: it says I did what I did first,  we did it about the same time
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> matt: yes and its massively unsecure to enable it
[01:55] <crweb2> Cyberman, is it hardware raid?
[01:55] <Cyberman> crweb2, you're telling me I need a -alternative CD... how can I get or make such a CD?
[01:55] <eseven73> sebastien, you must be lagging then :P
[01:55] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, so how am I going to be able to ssh into the server and shut it down?
[01:55] <Cyberman> yes.... it's a hardware RAID. embedded on the motherboard.
[01:55] <Peach> WebCamWonder: If you were a chick, I'd ask you out on a DATE!!!!!!!
[01:55] <matt> ActionParsnip: all from one script from a remote computer?
[01:55] <crweb2> Cyberman, fakeraid or real raid?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Cyberman: the channel seems rather instant, but  my client  Konversation  does say down there:   Lag:  131 ms
[01:55] <Peach> WebCamWonder:  that means it worked!  once again.... thank you guys VERY MUCH.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> eseven73: uh I sent to wrong guy see above
[01:56] <scunizi> matt: ssh <server@ipaddress> once logged in then sudo shutdown -P now will shut EVERYTHING down including power..
[01:56] <bruce89> scunizi: also the ISO code for Mexico
[01:56] <divXjunk> hi ppl. I installed 'jack' and 'mixxx'. The sound from mixxx gets to the audio card, so I hear the mp3 playing. But for no reason at all, the sound just dies for a couple of seconds, and then comes back again. No errors in mixxx or jack. I'm on ubuntu 8.10. Somebody who knows about this, I would really appreciate some help!!
[01:56] <WebcamWonder> Peach: LOL. That was the easy part, getting your GUI to work with the opensource drivers, now is the hard part, fixing the broken packages on your PC
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Cyberman: sent to wrong guy heh
[01:56] <crweb2> Cyberman, fakeraid depending on your motherboard might not be supported. I don't know much about that
[01:56] <scunizi> bruce89: well yea.. but that's no fun
[01:56] <Cyberman> I think it's real... I set it up from the RAIDs BIOS....
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> matt: you can add yourself to the sudo group and edit /etc/sudoers to allow that group membership to run stuff without a password
[01:56] <Peach> yeah.  I'm going to try to fix that now.  Thank you much for your advice.  I REALLY appreciate it.
[01:56] <bruce89> scunizi: no, carry on then
[01:56] <matt> scunizi: But.........I would have to type the password wouldn't i?
[01:56] <crweb2> Cyberman, what motherboard?
[01:56] <Cyberman> Windows recognizes the RAID as an INTEL HDD RAID....
[01:56] <matt> ActionParsnip: Oh, that's cool.
[01:56] <Cyberman> D975XBX
[01:56] <matt> ActionParsnip: Is that safe?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> matt: its a bit better
[01:57] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, but It'll work.
[01:57] <scunizi> matt: to shut down or log in via ssh.. via ssh ..yes you'll need a password but to shutdown .. well yes it will as for one
[01:57] <WebcamWonder> Peach: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers, and make sure that all the nVidia drivers are uninstalled /de-activated
[01:57] <matt> scunizi: Not if I use other stuff...................................................
[01:57] <histo> Cyberman: linux doesn't see the raid? is it software or hardware based?
[01:57] <scunizi> matt: like?
[01:57] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, adding myself to the sudo grup...tell me.
[01:58] <matt> scunizi: ssh keys
[01:58] <Cyberman> Linux doesn't see it... and it's a HARDWARE based RAID...
[01:58] <matt> scunizi: and add myself to the sudo group.
[01:58] <crweb2> Cyberman, i think its actually a fakeraid
[01:58] <scunizi> matt: ok.. so you'll automate it.. great.. same effect though
[01:58] <histo> !raid | Cyberman
[01:58] <crweb2> Cyberman, hardware raid usually costs about $250+ by itself
[01:58] <matt> ActionParsnip: How can I add myself to the group over cli?
[01:59] <Cyberman> how can I know if it's a fakeraid or a real one?
[01:59] <luis_> mexicans??
[01:59] <histo> matt: whats the issue?
[01:59] <matt> histo: I want to add myself to the sudo group.
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> mattsure
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[01:59] <crweb2> Cyberman,  well, fakeraid is just what it is called when a motherboard says it can raid0 or raid1 but the support is completely done by a software driver
[01:59] <Cyberman> I'm a mexican Luis, but I won't speak spanish in this channel.
[02:00] <histo> matt: you add yourself to the admin group to have sudo access
[02:00] <Cyberman> ok... My MB says that... but the RAID's management is done entirely via hardware...
[02:00] <sebsebseb> matt: you can add the  user account with  adduser in terminal, and then edit the groups easilely graphically :d
[02:00] <matt> sebsebseb: Not on a remote server :)
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> matt: sudo adduser $USER sudo
[02:00] <crweb2> Cyberman, no via bios
[02:00] <histo> matt: groupadd
[02:00] <crweb2> Cyberman, hardware raid the system never sees the drives all access is done via a separate controller
[02:00] <matt> ActionParsnip: it'd be sudo adduser matt sudo, wouldn't it?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> matt: oh on a server,  well then yeah I guess not, unless a GUI is installed, but for just that hummm, not much point
[02:00] <histo> matt: nvm dont' use group add hold up
[02:00] <crweb2> Cyberman, the bios setup just tells the raid driver that you install in windows what to do
[02:01] <histo> matt: admin is the group not sudo
[02:01] <Roasted> I'm trying to set up a samba network. I already have one set up on my main desktop but I'm trying to create a simple one on my spare desktop and I can't get it to work. On a windows laptop when I ping my main desktop by hostname, it works. W hen I ping the secondary one, which is the problematic one, it errors out and says it has no idea what it is.  How can I get samba to recognize my host name so it can work?
[02:01] <histo> matt: there is no sudo group
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> matt: yeah, mine works even though I dint know your user name ;)
[02:01] <Cyberman> that's correct... once I setup the RAID... the BIOS sees an INTEL HDD RAID instead of two maxtor drives.
[02:01] <crweb2> Cyberman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto#head-7918ab0def192cdf40484077136a40241732c669
[02:01] <crweb2> Cyberman, unless you paid 300+ for the mb, you have fake raid
[02:01] <histo> matt: sudo adduser matt admin
[02:02] <Cyberman> I paid some $350
[02:02] <matt> ActionParsnip: Oh, that's cool, the variable I mean.
[02:02] <Cyberman> as I recall..
[02:02] <matt> ActionParsnip: Now...the sudoers file thing....
[02:02] <histo> Cyberman: try the directions from ubottu
[02:02] <crweb2> Cyberman, ok, double checking but look over that link
[02:02] <Cyberman> it's an Intel EXTREME series MB
[02:02] <_Brun0_> Can anyone help me getting my sound to work? It works in 8.10 live CD and normal ubuntu installation. But I can't get it to work in ubuntu command-line + icewm: http://pastebin.com/m7f46ea14
[02:02] <histo> _Brun0_: instlal alsa
[02:03] <histo> !sound | _Brun0_
[02:03] <Cyberman> ok... brb... checking the links
[02:03] <crweb2> Cyberman, http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121016
[02:04] <crweb2> Cyberman, 0/1/0+1/5 Matrix RAID  fake raid
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> matt: sudo cp /etc/sudoers /etc/sudoers_old; gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[02:04] <Itacious> Hello, I'm compiling linux kernel 2.6.29.1 and I wish to choose my processor type, but I'm not sure which option I should pick. I have a Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo). Thanks!
[02:04] <matt> ActionParsnip: Well, I've tried sudo , and it doesn't ask for a password. Sure I need to do that?
[02:05] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I found notify-send can't show up when have a fullscreen application is running, any idea?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> matt: thats because there is a sudo grace period
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> matt: the group membership doesnt kick in til you relog in
[02:05] <matt> ActionParsnip: Surely not after logging out of ssh and back into though :)
[02:05] <histo> ActionParsnip: is he trying to not have a password?
[02:05] <Sumpygump> @matt Have you used sudo in the last fifteen minutes? If so, you don't have to retype the password.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> matt: then experiment, see if its ok
[02:05] <tt5786> hey all after some help i am trying to copy files from a folder on my desktop to a folder on the hard-drive but i dont have the permissions
[02:06] <_djsl_> get the permissions , it´s simple :P
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> tt5786: do you mean on an external hard drive?
[02:06] <matt> ActionParsnip: I will, I'm booting my nokia n810 now, going to write a script to eject my cd, because I CANNOT reboot right now, backing up files. So...how does the ssh with command thing go?
[02:06] <Roasted> I'm trying to set up a samba network. I already have one set up on my main desktop but I'm trying to create a simple one on my spare desktop and I can't get it to work. On a windows laptop when I ping my main desktop by hostname, it works. W hen I ping the secondary one, which is the problematic one, it errors out and says it has no idea what it is.  How can I get samba to recognize my host name so it can work?
[02:06] <histo> ActionParsnip: adding him to sudoers will still prompt for password. he just needs to add his user to the group admin though
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> tt5786: the files on the desktop are on a hard drive you know'
[02:06] <mrwes> tt5786, try alt F2 and then gksu nautilus and then copy the files
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> histo: you also need to uncomment part of /etc/sudoers
[02:06] <tt5786> yes but those files i can access and move but can not compy them to lets say the filestraem
[02:07] <histo> Roasted: unfortunately with linux you would need your own dns to ping by hostnames
[02:07] <ManateeLazyCat> notify-send can't show up notify window when have a *fullscreen* application is running, how to fix? I test it in Debian, haven't this problem, but in Ubuntu can't work. Any help? Thanks!
[02:07] <mrwes> histo, unless he put them in /etc/hosts :)
[02:07] <Roasted> histo - that makes no sense how I can ping 1 linux computer and connect to that computer through samba yet the other computer doesn't work, period.
[02:08] <Itacious> Anybody?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> tt5786: check your mounting options
[02:08] <histo> Roasted: you can try setting the netbios name
[02:08] <Roasted> histo - I did.
[02:08] <histo> Roasted: are you pinging from windows?
[02:08] <Roasted> yes - XP
[02:08] <tt5786> thanls
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Itacious: i'd ask in #gentoo, those guys do that loads
[02:08] <kaffien> how do I read a ntfs drive from ubuntu?
[02:08] <histo> Roasted: windows networks suck who knows which machine is controlling the master browsing.
[02:08] <tt5786> mrwes
[02:08] <kaffien> is there a packages  i need ?
[02:08] <mrwes> tt5786, yes?
[02:08] <Itacious> Nevermind, I'll try Pentium M... Core Duo appears to derived from that.
[02:09] <Roasted> histo - I'm willing to bet if windows networks suck then it wouldn't be able to ping my main linux desktop. But since it can, it's easy to rule that one out.
[02:09] <Itacious> Thanks, ActionParsnip.
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> kaffien: mount it to an empty folder, linux can read ntfs natively, if you want to write to it you need ntfs-3g
[02:09] <WebcamWonder> kaffien: ntfs-3g does it. It should be installed by default on a regular install. You should just try to access the drive, and it should mount it for you
[02:09] <Sh3r1ff> Roasted: try adding the host to /etc/hosts
[02:09] <Roasted> this is a real quick and dirty samba setup, so I have a feeling I missed a step, yet I am unsure of what step because I traced back my steps and compared it to my main desktop and I can't see anything that's different.
[02:09] <histo> Roasted: netbios can take 15-20minutes to propagate to other machines
[02:09] <kaffien> ActionParsnip, it will not mount
[02:09] <Roasted> histo - ahhhh that's right
[02:09] <histo> Roasted: the way the networks work sucs
[02:09] <Roasted> histo - I remember that now
[02:09] <genii> Roasted: Make sure smbfs is installed
[02:10] <progenitus> Hi, I cant get Jaunty to recognize my Sansa mp3 player. It is set as a mass storage device. Kubuntu or any other distro I tried detects it flawlessly.... Any idea?
[02:10] <Wavesonics> hey I want to get the mail() function working on my LAMP server, what email server should i install?
[02:10] <WebcamWonder> !jaunty | progenitus
[02:10] <Roasted> smbfs is not installed, but it doesn't need to be installed. It's not installed on my main desjktop.
[02:10] <histo> Roasted: its a horrible way of doing things
[02:10] <kaffien> do i need to....   mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/hdd ?
[02:10] <Mike_lifeguard> OK, I found my usb device using 'lsusb' -- but how can I mount it if it's not shown in 'fdisk -l'?
[02:10] <mrwes> kaffien, sudo mount....
[02:10] <Roasted> would restarting the XP computer have a better chance of it working?
[02:11] <kaffien> yeah sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/hdd
[02:11] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, sudoers file, It's needed.
[02:11] <kaffien> i get unknown  filesystem ntfs
[02:11] <Cyberman> it seems this is gonna take me some time to read and understand.... especially knowing wether my MB has a softRAID, a fakeraid or a real one... I'll try that later on... right now I don't have the time.... thank you very much anyway... see you later..
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> kaffien: you'll need to make the folder /mnt/hdd if you wanna use that
[02:12] <Wavesonics> What is the best commandline mail client?
[02:12] <kaffien> im using 2.6.21-4 kernel
[02:12] <kaffien> i've made the dir
[02:12] <_Brun0_> histo, i'm using ubuntu command-line install. please read the pastebin.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> matt: yep, edit it (its glaringly obvious where) to get it sorted
[02:12] <kaffien> it's saying the ntfs is an invalid filesystem
[02:12] <mrwes> kaffien, then do a chown yourusername:yourusername /mnt/hdd
[02:12] <mrwes> er sudo of couse
[02:12] <mrwes> course *
[02:12] <matt> ActionParsnip: I think I did it, but I'm not sure if it'll work until I reboot.
[02:12] <kaffien> yes mr wes
[02:12] <kaffien> its not giving me access errors
[02:13] <kaffien> its telling me ntfs is invalid
[02:13] <TheFuzzball> How do I get imagemagick working with PHP?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> matt: good luck dude, you have that backup file so you can easily rollback
[02:13] <WebcamWonder> kaffien: Did you compile the kernel yourself?
[02:13] <mrwes> kaffien, is the drive formatted ntfs?
[02:13] <matt> ActionParsnip: Not exactly :( All it does is backup the files from my desktop to my server, in terms of data and music.
[02:13] <_Brun0_> Why alsamixer correctly shows my sound card and aplay -l cant?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> matt: no, the command i gave backed up the original file before editing
[02:16] <Roasted> histo - This laptop has dual boot. I booted to Ubuntu. I cannot ping or connect to the other computer I just set up samba on, which is runnign intrepid.
[02:16] <matt> ActionParsnip: Oh, I never ran it :)
[02:16] <kaffien> the drive is ntfs
[02:16] <kaffien> i wasnt thinking lol
[02:16] <kaffien> the kernel is just a generic gernel
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> matt: i always advise a rolback clause
[02:17] <kaffien> i havent bothered compiling because im low on battery power
[02:17] <Roasted> histo - I lied. It wasnt able to ping my main desktop by hostname either. I connected to it successfully with ubuntu to ubuntu. XP partition didnt recognize the hostname yet.
[02:17] <spaceBARbarian> anyone know how to get exaile to import a directory into your library folder ?
[02:17] <matt> ActionParsnip: Right, I know.
[02:17] <WebcamWonder> kaffien: Try, the ntfs-3g as the driver name
[02:17] <kaffien> will try
[02:17] <matt> ActionParsnip: %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[02:18] <matt> isn't that right?
[02:18] <kristian_> anyone know of a free webhost with php? :-)
[02:18] <WebcamWonder> !ot | kristian_
[02:18] <histo> Roasted: on the ubuntu machine make sure samba is installed also edit the /etc/nsswitch.conf and change the line that says hosts: files dns  to hosts: files wins dns
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> matt: the comments say so
[02:18] <histo> Roasted: then the linux computers should be able to ping by netbios name
[02:18] <swearengen> How do I unmount a partition?
[02:18] <histo> Roasted: err wins
[02:18] <mrwes> kristian_, yah...Ubuntu server via dyndns
[02:18] <zack> hi, i'm trying to install acrobat reader plugin for firefox on 8.10. i read the doc here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Adobe_Acrobat_Reader_for_Firefox_Plug-in, I have enabled all repos in synaptic - third party, etc., but i can not find these packages. any idea?
[02:18] <matt> ActionParsnip: Well, the command I ran from my nokia worked, but I had to enter my password.
[02:18] <FreeFull> swearengen: do you know how to open a terminal?
[02:19] <Sh3r1ff> swearengen: umount <mount>
[02:19] <Sumpygump> swearengen: use umount
[02:19] <Mike_lifeguard> OK, so in the end the problem is that I can find the device with 'lsusb' but not 'fdisk -l' -- so I don't know how to mount it, so I cannot use it. Is there a way to mount it with the information from lsusb?
[02:19] <swearengen> If I installed ubuntu twice, can I safely assume the latest partition is the one with GRUB
[02:19] <histo> Roasted: hodl up you migh tonly need winbind i'm checking
[02:19] <poseidon> How do I get variables in snippits?  ie if I have expander2#var, how can I get var
[02:20] <felix_da_catz> swearengen, You can never safely assume anything.
[02:20] <Roasted> histo - What is it about ubuntu that isnt allowing it to ping my main desktop, which is ubuntu? I'm on ubuntu on my laptop trying to ping my ubuntu desktop.
[02:20] <matt> ActionParsnip: For the sudoers file to take place, what needs to be done?
[02:20] <matt> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m5b4363e9
[02:20] <xiamx> Adobe flash plugin made firefox 3.0.8 crash.... solutions?
[02:20] <swearengen> if it's listed first in GRUB does that mean it has GRUB
[02:20] <felix_da_catz> no
[02:20] <histo> Roasted: yest by netbios name you need winbind installed on the linux boxes.  Then edit the file like I told you it will resolve by wins name then and all will be happy
[02:21] <histo> Roasted: I just did it on my machines
[02:21] <felix_da_catz> but it doesn't mean that drive can't boot
[02:21] <swearengen> whatever, im deleting the old one
[02:21] <swearengen> we'll see what happens =P
[02:21] <felix_da_catz> swearengen, well, it shouldn't be a big deal.  You can always boot off a recovery cd and fix it
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> matt: looks good dude
[02:21] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, after plugging in the drive; from the terminal type dmesg | tail and see if it reports the device there
[02:22] <matt> ActionParsnip: Then why isn't it working:(
[02:22] <matt> ActionParsnip: Should I reboot?
[02:22] <histo> Roasted: basically sudo aptitude install winbind   Then sudo nano /etc/nsswitch.conf and change the hosts: line make sure wins is in front of dns  Then it will work.
[02:22] <histo> Roasted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88206
[02:22] <swearengen> it says unmount, command not found
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> swearengen: umount
[02:23] <swearengen> it says unmount, command not found
[02:23] <swearengen> o
[02:23] <swearengen> sorry for repeat keyboard slip
[02:23] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: I'm not sure I understand the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148695/
[02:23] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: "new high speed USB device" sounds promising though
[02:23] <swearengen> why does gparted say it is mounted when its not gargh
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> matt: sure, once you log in again you will be in the group
[02:23] <Athenon__> ok, I just migrated everything over to ldap.  it works great....but when i go to remove the group from /etc/group using groupdel...it tells me i cant remove a user's primary group (even though i already deleted the user with userdel)....any ideas?
[02:24] <matt> ActionParsnip: Oh, but I never really log in, I just ssh into it.
[02:24] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, it's /dev/sdb1
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> matt: thats loggin in
[02:24] <mrwes> [42249.944455]  sdb: sdb1
[02:24] <matt> ActionParsnip: Well, shouldn't I be able to close my ssh connections and then go back in?
[02:24] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: ok, I'll try mounting that...
[02:24] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, did you mkdir a mount point for it already?
[02:25] <Mike_lifeguard> no
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> matt: i'm unsure about the sudoers file and if it needs a reboot
[02:25] <matt> ActionParsnip: I'll wait for the backup to finish, and then I'll try. I think it'll work, thanks!
[02:25] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, from a terminal type sudo mkdir /media/mydisk  or whatever you want to call it
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> np man
[02:26] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, then sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /media/mydisk
[02:26] <kpoman> hi all !
[02:26] <kpoman> guys do someone know how I can mount a reiser4 partition on 8.10 ?
[02:26] <kpoman> without much struggle I mean
[02:26] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: done & done
[02:26] <kaffien> whats the name of the linux kernel
[02:26] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, then finally sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mydisk
[02:27] <kaffien> if i want to patch via apt-get
[02:27] <m1ndpixel> Hi guys, for some reason, my headless machine keeps crashing after 1-2 days of uptime. I went through my logs, and found nothing, no warning, no errors, nothing. The machine does not respond to pings, and they keyboard 'num lock'  cap lock, dont affect the keyboard light... over night with memtest found nothing, any ideas?
[02:27] <sebsebseb> kaffien: in the terminal  do:  uname -r
[02:28] <kpoman> do someone know something about reiser4 ?
[02:28] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: "mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist"
[02:28] <Behappy> hello , How to join to freenode.com from ubunto?
[02:28] <Mike_lifeguard> Behappy: it is freenode.net, and you're on it
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> !mount | kpoman
[02:28] <sebsebseb> kpoman: yes and see my pm
[02:29] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, hrm...try /dev/sdb
[02:29] <may0> hi could anyone tell me why in ubuntu and any other linux distro i have tried my second monitor blinks on and off ? I have a nvidia 8800gt
[02:29] <fusa> m1ndpixel try testing ram with one ram stick inserted at a time, and test for several hours each stick, move sticks to over slots
[02:29] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: same
[02:29] <mrwes> sigh...
[02:29] <kpoman> I have an old reiser4 partition, I just need to mount it, backup the data then free it
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> may0: install nvidia drivers then use nvidia-settings to set up the display
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> may0: you will need nvidia-glx-180 for that card
[02:30] <may0> when i activate the restricted drivers or use envy to install the 180 drivers it causes x to crash
[02:30] <yoyoned> kpoman: it should automount
[02:30] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, try ...just guessing here; /dev/hcd
[02:30] <histo> !mount | dpo
[02:30] <histo> !mount > kpoman
[02:30] <kpoman> yoyoned: it wont, reiser4 ! not reiser3
[02:31] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: nope ^_^
[02:31] <mrwes> blah
[02:31] <tictac> hmm. is there a way to install ubuntu 8.10 in a failsafe video mode? the main mode doesnt work with my screen as it complains signal out of range
[02:31] <yoyoned> kpoman: so reiser4 insn't in stock ubuntu kernal I guess?
[02:31] <histo> may0: what type of video card do you have?
[02:31] <may0> 8800gt
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | tictac
[02:32] <kpoman> yoyoned: it isnt
[02:32] <histo> may0: does X give any errors when it crashes?
[02:32] <may0> yes but i can't recall the error.
[02:32] <may0> sorry :(
[02:32] <Roasted> I have two Ubuntu computers hooked together by a single patch cable. Each one is running Samba. I connected the Ubuntu laptop to the Ubuntu desktop by going to Places - Connect To Server. I'm transferring a lot of data. The data transfer is 23.2MB/second. They each have a 10/100/1000 port. Is this slow??
[02:32] <histo> may0: you can pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:33] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, you using 8.04
[02:33] <may0> brb
[02:33] <histo> may0: that card should not have any issue with activating the restrcited drivers
[02:33] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: no, 8.10
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: pretty standard
[02:33] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, this thread may apply http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-898939.html
[02:33] <Roasted> ActionParsnip - Shouldn't I be achieving higher speeds since they are gig ports?
[02:33] <histo> Roasted: sounds normal.  did you get the winbind thing working?
[02:34] <LargePrime> ok so how do i get my new gearhead webcam working
[02:34] <histo> !webcam | LargePrime
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: is the cable wired to be gb speed?
[02:34] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, appears it's a bug :(
[02:35] <histo> ActionParsnip: cat5e supports gigabit speeds
[02:35] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: Why did you not tell me threr was a supported cam list!!!!!!!
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: gb uses slightly different cabling
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: cos its offtopic here
[02:35] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: ok, thanks
[02:35] <Circs> Is there a program similar to Fruity Loops for Ubuntu?
[02:35] <tictac> hmm nice. it even has a vga mode recommendation for my specific laptop. inspiron 1505.
[02:35] <josemanuel> hola a todo
[02:36] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: i hate you
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: join the queue
[02:36] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, looks like there is a work around, but it won't give you USB 2.0 "modprobe -r ehci_hcd"
[02:36] <histo> Circs: why not use fruity loops under wine?
[02:36]  * Mike_lifeguard tries...
[02:36] <matrixblue_> What program can I use to open or at least convert a publisher file?
[02:36] <histo> Circs: but i'm sure there are linux alternatives just google search linux alternative fruity loops.  you will prolly find something int he repos
[02:37] <Circs> histo: Because I don't own that software
[02:37] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, need sudo in front of that :)
[02:37] <histo> Circs: ahh applications > add/remove
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Circs: tried lmms?
[02:37] <Mike_lifeguard> matrixblue_: openoffice.org probably
[02:37] <Circs> ActionParsnip: No, I think I'll poke that
[02:37] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: your behavior hurts ubuntu
[02:37] <matrixblue_> Mike_lifeguard, I tried that
[02:37] <stuNNed> how can i find out what deb package owns a file?  something like `rpm -f /path/to/file` i think in red hat...
[02:38] <histo> stuNNed: apt-file
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: i doubt that very much considering im in here almost daily helping users
[02:38] <histo> LargePrime: ?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: i'm keeping the room on topic
[02:38] <godstar> Is anyone else able to install wine? I am getting a 'connection refused' when I attempt to do, sudo aptitude install wine via terminal.
[02:38] <godstar> ?
[02:38] <stuNNed> histo: thanks!
[02:38] <histo> godstar: no problems here
[02:38] <sebsebseb> godstar: don't get from terminal
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: try: sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full
[02:38] <sebsebseb> godstar: don't get from synaptic
[02:38] <drowner> matrixblue_: I don't think you can. Publisher files are not openable with anything except publisher. There is a convert to pdf online.
[02:38] <Circs> Last time i checked answering questions with something besides google it is being helpful
[02:39] <Mike_lifeguard> matrixblue_: if that didn't work, I have no other suggestions, sorry
[02:39] <sebsebseb> godstar: get from  wines own repo for ubuntu so you always get the most up to date
[02:39] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: sticking to a topic is not an excuse to hurt users
[02:39] <sebsebseb> godstar: http://www.winehq.org
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> godstar: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[02:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> Hmmmmmmmmm Pidgin isn't connecting to my accoutns
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: i didnt hurt you. you were in the wrong channel
[02:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> accounts*
[02:39] <histo> LargePrime: ActionParsnip hasn't hurt anyone. You are misguided
[02:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> Is anyone else having problems with pidgin?
[02:39] <drowner> matrixblue_: When someone emails me a pub file, i ask them to email it to me in a readbale format, like Postscript or pdf
[02:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> Or AIM/Yahoo! rather
[02:39] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: I experience crashes daily
[02:39] <Circs> H_M-Ubuntu: No issues here
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: i'm on it now
[02:39] <matrixblue_> drowner, and Mike_lifeguard : thanks I guess I'll install publisher under wine
[02:40] <godstar> Ty both.
[02:40] <kaffien> apt-get install ntfs-3g helped me out
[02:40] <kaffien> thanks for tips  ... later!
[02:40] <sebsebseb> LargePrime: do you want help with something?
[02:40] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: they seem to have amplified with the facebook plugin activated
[02:40] <H_M-Ubuntu> Interesting.. I've never had a problem with pidgin before..
[02:40] <TNT> hi allbody speak portuguese??????????
[02:40] <behappy> Hello
[02:40] <sebsebseb> behappy: hi
[02:40] <H_M-Ubuntu> Meh works now, I had to restart it is all.. weird.
[02:41] <sebsebseb> !pt |  TNT
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> !pt | tnt
[02:41] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: you hurt me.  i came to ask what i need to know about ubuntu and web cams.  Now i have a cam that is not supported
[02:41] <godstar> Just tried it via add/remove...connect (111 Connection refused).
[02:41] <histo> LargePrime: I pointed you to ubottu directions
[02:41] <godstar> Wine is still not installing. I have never really had this issue before. :(
[02:41] <kpoman> hi to all again ! sorry had to boot on ubuntu for the checks
[02:42] <histo> LargePrime: how did he make your cam that isn't suported appear?
[02:42] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, are you hurting people 'again' ?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: like i told you, its offtopic here
[02:42] <kpoman> sebsebseb: which was the channel ?
[02:42] <mrwes> heh
[02:42] <godstar> Sonofa!
[02:42] <sebsebseb> kpoman: see the pm
[02:42] <drowner> matrixblue_: I strongly recommend avoiding publisher files
[02:42] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: same here
[02:42] <godstar> Sorry...I feel better. Certainly not directly at anyone particular. :)
[02:43] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: no program  that isn't Microsoft's  can  suppourt publisher files
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: no, just people in the wrong room
[02:43] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: at all or properly
[02:43] <histo> sebsebseb: scribus maybe?
[02:43] <sebsebseb> histo: no not even Scribus
[02:43] <histo> sebsebseb: hrm.. let me check
[02:43] <drowner> histo: only if the person who made it exports it as a scribus-friendly file, i think
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: you asked a question in the wrong room. i told you where the right room was
[02:43] <matrixblue_> drowner and sebsebseb : I wish I could avoid it but that's not an option for alot of people
[02:43] <sebsebseb> histo: apparnatly the desktop  publishing formats are the hardest to reverse enginer, and that's why Scribus won't do it
[02:43] <drowner> matrixblue_: What do you use publisher for?
[02:44] <Wavesonics> what program should I use to read email from the command line?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: you can run Publisher under Wine
[02:44] <ChotaZ> OMFG!
[02:44] <kristian_> i can't find any ftp packet preinstalled on ubuntu, am i missing something, or do i have to find something in repo?
[02:44] <Matson> what provides mod_dav_svn for apache2?
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> Wavesonics: mutt or alpine are 2 solutions
[02:44] <mrwes> drowner, doens't Xnview view publisher files?
[02:44] <Matson>  libapache2-svn  got it
[02:44] <Wavesonics> ActionParsnip: I have sendmail, that is an incoming mail server as well right?
[02:45] <histo> sebsebseb: you could convert them to pdf wiht a website
[02:45] <godstar> I am thinking my wine install went nutty. Hmm...
[02:45] <drowner> mrwes: I don't know, does it? Sounds interesting
[02:45] <TheFuzzball> Circs: Adour might be what you're looking for
[02:45] <sebsebseb> histo: yeah I guess so
[02:45] <Wavesonics> ActionParsnip: And I could use Alpine to check the incoming mail?
[02:45] <histo> sebsebseb: k2pdf.com/convert.htm
[02:45] <matrixblue_> drowner, in my officer we use publisher sometime I have to review and edit stuff
[02:45] <drowner> mrwes: I prefer angry emails to people who send me .pub files. :D
[02:45] <histo> sebsebseb: or install publisher under wine maybe?
[02:45] <godstar> AFK
[02:45] <sebsebseb> histo: yes and I already suggested that
[02:46] <sebsebseb> drowner: Richard Stallman did a good article about why people shoudn't send .doc's to people  it's on  http://www.gnu.org in the philosphey section, and anyone else reading this, check that out to learn about free software and other issues to do with it
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Wavesonics: i guess, its not something ive used but i know mutt can be used to check mail in ssh
[02:47] <Wavesonics> ok, thanks
[02:47] <histo> godstar: sudo aptitude purge wine && sudo aptitude install wine
[02:47] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: see my message above to drowner
[02:47] <matrixblue_> sebsebseb, I use open office but the fact is .doc is the most common format. Just like how mp3s are the defacto standard
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> godstar: use the wine repos, the newer version gets better results in my experience
[02:48] <mrwes> drowner, here is an online converter to PDF http://convert.neevia.com/
[02:48] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: the most used, but they aren't real standards any of them
[02:48] <histo> mrwes: drowner k2pdf.com is antoehr one.  Or you can use word and convert them to pdf.
[02:48] <dt3k> .flac should be the audio standard
[02:49] <mrwes> histo, right...I saw that one too
[02:49] <LjL> !ot
[02:49] <histo> dt3k: I think .mp3 shoudlb e the standard all this legal stuff is garbagfe
[02:49] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: Open Document Format is a real standard :) for office suites,  that was a ISO International Standards  Organisation standard, before  Microsoft came up with their competing OOXML rubbish.  OGG and Flac are nice open standard formats for audio and video.  etc
[02:49]  * histo goes back in his hole.
[02:49] <matrixblue_> dt3k, what percentage of computer users know what a .flak file is?
[02:49] <mrwes> histo: that's a deep hole :)
[02:49] <LjL> !ot
[02:49] <dt3k> matrixblue_; a lot more if it was the standard.
[02:50] <histo> lol
[02:50] <LjL> #ubuntu-offtopic is ready and willing to discuss document standards
[02:50] <mrwes> heh...slow bot
[02:50] <KillerOrca> I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[02:50] <sebsebseb> mrwes: slow bot?
[02:50] <LjL> mrwes: no, it's just i used it too quickly in succession on the same factoid.
[02:50] <LjL> guess that must be because my first call on it was ignored.
[02:50] <histo> mrwes: sebsebseb just wait till it floodbots and bans itself thats the best.
[02:50] <matrixblue_> I would use the open standards but when it's time for collaboration with windows users it causes problems
[02:51] <ugliefrog> irssi
[02:51] <matrixblue_> best to wait til we win the war for that
[02:51] <dt3k> mp3 was created in 1991 and we are still using that as the audio standard when there are far superior formats.
[02:51] <LjL> !ot | LAST NOTICE
[02:51] <RedMushroom> how can i alter the permissions of the folder /var/www (and all of it's contents) to allow a local user full read/write/execute permissions?
[02:51] <LjL> RedMushroom: how do you define "local user"?
[02:52] <RedMushroom> another user on the computer, ie, i have two users, root and "user" and i want user to have those permissions for that folder
[02:52] <LjL> RedMushroom: why can't you just make that user a member of the www-data (or www or what's it called right now) group?
[02:52] <RedMushroom> because i don't know how
[02:52] <tictac> usermod -G www-data <user>
[02:53] <M4rotku>  hey, i have a quick question:  when ubuntu 8.10 is installed to a usb drive, can applications be installed on it or is it akin to the live cd?
[02:53] <Neff> Hi everybody! I'm a Journalist and I'm trying to take screenshots of Jaunty for an article I will publish on a swiss news paper the day of jaunty release. I have a problem with my Jaunty installation in VirtualBox 2.2. I installed Jaunty and I installed the guest additions too but now I'm missing the mouse cursor and I don't know what to do. Can you help me please?
[02:53] <dt3k> I believe you can install apps
[02:53] <RedMushroom> tictac: does that have to be run in sudo?
[02:53] <histo> RedMushroom: add your user to the group that owns www
[02:53] <tictac> readability: yes.
[02:53] <nonewmsgs> i mounted an iso to a local folder (/media/fakeCD) now i want to change what cd is mounted but i can't because it's already mounted more than once.  umount gives me the same error
[02:53] <RedMushroom> histo: root owns www
[02:54] <histo> RedMushroom: yes but who is the group
[02:54] <tictac> nonewmsgs: so umount the cd.
[02:54] <histo> RedMushroom: I believe there is a www or www-data group
[02:54] <LjL> histo: root.
[02:54] <LjL> histo: there is, but by default, at least on Hardy, /var/www is owned by root.
[02:54] <RedMushroom> i'm using intrepid ibex (8.10)
[02:54] <histo> LjL: thats so annoying to new users something that needs to be addressed.
[02:54] <Shish_> scunizi: hey, just wanted to tell u that the cube thing resolved itself with a RESTART... bruuutal
[02:55] <histo> LjL: there should be a www group or www-data group by default no?
[02:55] <nonewmsgs> tictac it wont let me!  umount: it seems /media/fakeCD is mounted multiple times
[02:55] <matrixblue_> Neff, what happens when you click within the window of virtualbox?
[02:55] <histo> LjL: that atleast the admin group has access to without pass
[02:55] <LjL> histo: there *is* a www-data group.
[02:55] <unop> RedMushroom, why don't you use the userdir apache module .. so you can place content in ~/public_html and access it at http://host/~yourusername/
[02:55] <tictac> nonewmsgs: sudo umount /media/fakeCD
[02:55] <LjL> histo: it's just not the owner of /var/www
[02:56] <histo> Neff: right ctrl
[02:56] <Neff> matrixblue_: happens that the arrow cursor disappears
[02:56] <tictac> nonewmsgs: do it multiple times if you need to. also, make sure nothing is using it.
[02:56] <RedMushroom> unop: that's what i was thinking
[02:56] <nonewmsgs> tictac, i just gave you the error message that produces
[02:56] <Radtoo> Neff: I dimly recall virtualbox offered a setting whether to use software or hardware cursor...
[02:56] <matrixblue_> Neff, what is the host operating system?
[02:56] <unop> RedMushroom, with this way - you don't have to mess with permissions .. just create a directory in your home directory, place content in there
[02:56] <tictac> nonewmsgs: whats the error?
[02:56] <histo> Radtoo: Neff i've never had a problem with virtual box and mouse control wiht guest additions. But then i've run virutal box on ubuntu host
[02:56] <Neff> histo Radtoo matrixblue_ I'm using ubuntu Intrepid ;)
[02:57] <RedMushroom> unop: that's what i'm doing now
[02:57] <histo> Neff: right ctrl I belivee is the default escape key. it says down in the bottom right of the virtual box window.
[02:57] <unop> RedMushroom, I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem then :)
[02:58] <nonewmsgs> tictac ok now it's working cheers
[02:58] <histo> Neff: if not opne a terminal hitting alt+f2 in the virtual machine and sudo shutdown -h now.  Then see ifyou get mouse back. If not then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the hosts X
[02:58] <tictac> nonewmsgs: np
[02:59] <Neff> histo that is not my problem.. I know how to use VBox but my problem is that I'm not able to see the cursor when VBox grab my mouse... The cursor disappears but the mouse is still working.
[02:59] <matrixblue_> Neff :and the mouse cursor reappear when you press the host key?
[02:59] <Neff> matrixblue_: yes
[02:59] <histo> Neff: hrm... no idea then
[02:59] <Neff> matrixblue_: it desappears in the VM only
[02:59] <Radtoo> histo: It can happen... there was a bug in an older version of VBox (version 1.5 or something), plus it happened to me on ati drivers at one point.
[02:59] <Neff> matrixblue_: and only with jaunty...
[03:00] <kickar> hey guys i just installed ubuntu ? i am new do i have iptables?
[03:00] <matrixblue_> Neff: just create another VM using the same virtual hard drive
[03:00] <Radtoo> Neff: As this happened after you installed the guest additions I do think it happened because it switched from software to hardware mouse cursor...
[03:00] <lstarnes> kickar: yes
[03:01] <lstarnes> kickar: almost all linux distributions have it vy default
[03:01] <lstarnes> *by
[03:01] <Neff> Radtoo: I have this problem since I installed my guest additions. Before the cursor was visible (but of course screen resolution was bad)
[03:01] <kickar> lstarnes,  is there easyway to configure it ? any GUI scripts?
[03:01] <kickar> kmyfirewall?
[03:01] <histo> !firewall | kickar
[03:02] <lstarnes> kickar: there is ufw and I there GUI frontends like firestarter
[03:02] <Radtoo> Neff: Just turn it back to software cursor. If you have that setting and I'm not wrong (using too many virtualization solutions and too infrequently to be sure)
[03:02] <kickar> lstarnes,  thank you !
[03:02] <matrixblue_> Neff, just create another VM using the same virtual hard drive
[03:02] <Neff> Radtoo: What does it mean? How can I switch to software cursor?
[03:03] <matrixblue_> Neff, that should reset all the setting you changed but the install itself will be the same
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby yuo can do it!!!
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby yuo can do it!!!
[03:03] <Neff> matrixblue_: I don't think this will solve the problem because Guest additions are installed in the virtual hard drive
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby!
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby yuo can do it!!!
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby yuo can do it!!!
[03:03] <FloodBot2> Tony-Little: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby!
[03:04] <Neff> matrixblue_: the only thing I changed was not in the VM, but in the virtual disk, where I only installed VBox Guest additions
[03:04] <Neff> matrixblue_: the only thing I can do maybe is to install another version of VBox and see what happens
[03:05] <matrixblue_> Neff, if the keyboard still works use terminal to remove the guest additions then
[03:05] <Jared> hey guys
[03:05] <Jared> quick question
[03:05] <leo_> huh
[03:05] <Jared> I'm on ubuntu 9.04 alpha and im trying to do an upgrade, some of the packages aren't locking so by doing system update does it go into beta or do i need to redownload an .iso?
[03:05] <mlalkaka> hello everyone
[03:05] <Wavesonics> waht does /etc stand for?
[03:05] <Wavesonics> wahts it mean?
[03:06] <eseven73> !jaunty | Jared
[03:06] <Neff> matrixblue_: That will not solve my problem. I need to have full screen res. to make screenshots for the press.... so I need the guest additions installed. I was hoping to find a solution to the missing pointer... if there is
[03:06] <mlalkaka> Wavesonics: it stands for "et cetera"
[03:06] <nonewmsgs> tictac, now im trying to mount another image and it's whining! mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:06] <Wavesonics> ah...
[03:06] <Wavesonics> thx
[03:06] <Jared> ah ok
[03:06] <lstarnes> Wavesonics: also, man hier
[03:06] <Wavesonics> lol
[03:06] <Neff> matrixblue_: In an old version of VBox I had the same problem
[03:06] <wizared> why are my application menus dissappearing
[03:06] <matrixblue_> Neff, do a screenshot from within the VM
[03:07] <mlalkaka> Wavesonics: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#ETCHOSTSPECIFICSYSTEMCONFIGURATION
[03:07] <Neff> matrixblue_: you don't get the problem... i have to move windows, try programs and without a mouse cursor I cannot do it...
[03:07] <Wavesonics> thx :)
[03:08] <Radtoo> Neff: Ah, sorry - found a forum entry from last year where a sun staffer said you can't disable the hardware cursor except by disabling the guest additions... :/
[03:08] <Wavesonics> makes ya wounder what its not called /config
[03:08] <xray7224> Radtoo, you in here ?
[03:08] <histo> Radtoo: Neff why not use a more current version of virtualbox?
[03:08] <nonewmsgs> im trying to mount an iso  using the -o loop thing and mount is saying mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:08] <thebackwash> wizered: can you be more specific?
[03:08] <histo> nonewmsgs: what fiel system is it?
[03:08] <Wavesonics> my sendmail is working very intermitently :/
[03:08] <Neff> histo more current? there is something newer than 2.2?
[03:08] <genii> nonewmsgs: use also -t iso9660
[03:08] <matrixblue_> Neff, I understand. When you disable guest additions you'll have your mouse and when you do the screenshot from in the VM then you'll have a full resolution shot
[03:08] <histo> Neff: Ahh I thought you were experiencing a bug from prior to 1.5
[03:09] <wizared> on some of my programs where it says file edit ect... is just lines
[03:09] <nonewmsgs> genii, histo but i never had to before?
[03:09] <genii> nonewmsgs: If it's an -rw or so,  -t udf
[03:09] <thebackwash> wizered: are you using kde or gnome?
[03:09] <Neff> histo that is exactly the same problem but with a current version of vbox
[03:09] <wizared> thebackwash: gnome
[03:10] <Wavesonics> sendmail ftl :(
[03:10] <nonewmsgs> oh ok it's a bad image guys
[03:10] <histo> Neff: #virtualbox may be able to provide more advice
[03:10] <Matson> what provides Apache2.pm ?
[03:10] <thebackwash> wizared: that's a really strange problem.  i have no idea what it might be in gnome.  sorry.
[03:10] <histo> Matson: use apt-file
[03:10] <lstarnes> Matson: libaoache2-mod-perl I think
[03:10] <Neff> histo ok, I'll try there
[03:10] <Radtoo> Neff: Q: Did you have ati drivers?
[03:10] <Matson> when  I start up apache now it fails with:  "Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC
[03:11] <mopoyo> anyone know an ubuntu game with GOOD (actually good) graphics?
[03:11] <Neff> Radtoo: my host has an NVIDIA video card
[03:11] <Radtoo> mopoyo: spring rts, nexuiz
[03:11] <wizared> thebackwash: it started with open office and seams to be spreading
[03:11] <xray7224> mopoyo, nexuiz
[03:11] <matrixblue_> mopoyo, I like supertuxkart
[03:12] <Sumpygump> mopoyo: torcs
[03:12] <histo> mopoyo: nexuiz urban-terror enemy territory quake / unreal etc...
[03:12] <histo> mopoyo: there are tons
[03:12] <histo> mopoyo: steam works with wine as well as WoW
[03:12] <Radtoo> mopoyo: Spring RTS is best in graphics going by my taste, tho =)
[03:12] <Matson> histo: how to use apt-file?
[03:12] <histo> Matson: dunno dont' ahve it installed I would guess apt-file search filename .
[03:13] <thebackwash> wizared: hit alt-f when you have an application open
[03:13] <histo> Matson: ubt man apt-file would say for sure
[03:13] <thebackwash> wizared: see if that does anything
[03:13] <histo> Matson: ubt = but
[03:13] <matrixblue_> anyone know why I can't set my name to matrixblue? I registered that name a while back
[03:13] <f0ster> does anyone know how to commit to svn even when svn says you're file is 'probably' out of date?
[03:13] <mopoyo> wow Spring RTS looks great
[03:13] <histo> matrixblue_: its ghosted maybe?
[03:13] <cchaos> Hello
[03:13] <Sumpygump> f0ster: svn update
[03:13] <matrixblue_> histo, what's ghosted?
[03:13] <histo> matrixblue_: are you d'angelo?
[03:14] <cina1977> hi all
[03:14] <chirpsalot> hi
[03:14] <matrixblue_> histo yeah
[03:14] <wizared> thebackwash: my tabs open but cant read anything. wear words should be there are lines
[03:14] <histo> matrixblue_: well /nick matrickblue then /msg nickserve identify <password>
[03:14] <thebackwash> wizared: also, if you've tried installing a mac-style menubar, and anything goes wrong, you might run into problems
[03:14] <histo> matrixblue_: /msg nickserv not nickserve
[03:15] <Radtoo> mopoyo: Absolutely. Just make sure you do have hardware opengl acceleration or it won't run.
[03:15] <wizared> thebackwash: wasnt playing with anything like that . it started right after an update\
[03:15] <matrixblue_> histo and if I forgot the password?
[03:16] <shippo> I keep trying to install xubuntu on an older system but it keeps dumping me at the ubuntu prompt and not starting the install, any idea as to why?
[03:16] <mpm711> would it be possible to update php to 5.2.9 on hardy
[03:16] <matrixblue_> shippo, at what point does it sump you?
[03:16] <thebackwash> wizared: i did a google search and it appears that this is an occasional bug
[03:17] <j5098> i can't ping my ubuntu hostname from a diff computer, any ideas?
[03:17] <wizared> thebackwash: is there a fix
[03:17] <shippo> matrixblue_: loading /casper/initrd.gz
[03:17] <thebackwash> wizared: looking now
[03:17] <Paulo> ola
[03:17] <shippo> then says something about bios age and stops
[03:17] <thebackwash> wizared: i googled "gtk menubar disappears ubuntu"
[03:18] <supercom32> Anyone here know c++ well? :-)
[03:18] <matrixblue_> shippo, check the CD for defects
[03:18] <mopoyo> Radtoo, how big is spring?
[03:18] <shippo> matrixblue_: I just used it to install xubuntu on two other systems with out issue
[03:18] <shippo> perhaps a cd drive issue?
[03:19] <thebackwash> wizared: sorry i can't help you off hand here.  maybe the ubuntu forums would help
[03:19] <matrixblue_> shippo, perhaps....is the computer able to boot for usb?
[03:19] <wizared> thebackwash: thank you
[03:20] <shippo> matrixblue_: do you mean boot TO usb?
[03:20] <matrixblue_> shippo, I mean from a usb flash device
[03:20] <Radtoo> mopoyo: Can't really say. The base installation is around 20MB for the engine and lobby, but there are dependencies and you'll also get variable space consumption by the unit sets (mods / games) and maps...
[03:21] <shippo> matrixblue_: probably not, it is an old mb from like 1996 or so
[03:21] <mopoyo> Radtoo, is there a standard mod?
[03:22] <matrixblue_> shippo, try another CD rom is available, What are the specs on the system btw?
[03:22] <Matson> so this is nightmarish
[03:22] <Matson> so Apache.pm is already installed
[03:22] <Radtoo> mopoyo: No. Just some that are played more online than others...
[03:22] <Matson> but the place it is installed is not in @INC
[03:22] <noodlesgc> supercom32: perhaps you should join ##c++?
[03:22] <mopoyo> Radtoo, which is the best one :p
[03:22] <Matson> so when apache starts up, it can't find it
[03:22] <Matson> error:
[03:23] <Matson> [Fri Apr 10 19:21:01 2009] [error] Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . /etc/apache2) at (eval 2) line 3.\n
[03:23] <bosco> i dual boot windows and ubuntu is it possible to have a blank partition for files  that is accessable by both windows and ubuntu ???
[03:23] <Matson> but the file is right here
[03:23] <Matson> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1723 2006-11-19 15:31 /usr/lib/perl5/Bundle/Apache2.pm
[03:23] <Im_Toast> Hey, my sound stopped working... Anyone have any ideas how to diagnose/fix it?
[03:23] <Radtoo> mopoyo: None, they're just different. If you want something fairly "normal" RTS style, try BA or CA. A bit less normal would be NOTA / GundamRTS.
[03:23] <cchaos> bosco: that partition must be NTFS for windows to use it
[03:23] <noodlesgc> bosco as long as it is either NTFS or FAT32
[03:24] <eseven73> Im_Toast, try sudo alsa force-reload
[03:24] <cchaos> Or FAT or FAT32 as noodlesgc stated (I forgot about that, but NTFS is the "norm" for windows atm)
[03:25] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am trying a different cd drive
[03:25] <matrixblue_> shippo, ok
[03:25] <shippo> that is on a different interface
[03:25] <shippo> well see if that works or not
[03:25] <Radtoo> mopoyo: They're all fun to try out tho. They will end up as a single file in your home directory under .spring/ if you choose to download them using the game lobby, so you can just delete them if you don't like one.
[03:26] <bosco> cchaos, i already installed both ubuntu and windows ????
[03:26] <Im_Toast> eseven73: Still sound-less
[03:26] <Ketrel> I'm trying to configure Wireless on Ubuntu (Ibex) I THINK I may have gotten somewhere with ndiswrapper, but when I try to choose the encyption I do not see 64bit WEP listed as an option
[03:26] <eseven73> Im_Toast, ok try setting everything in System > preferences> sound to ALSA then re run that command
[03:27] <captain> does anyone have a good how to on taking an AVI and making into a playable DVD, not just burning it?
[03:27] <kpoman> hey guys ! I just installed the kernel sources and still dont have nothing in /usr/src/linux !
[03:27] <cchaos> bosco: have you left any space on your hard drive(s) for you to "is it possible to have a blank partition for files  that is accessable by both windows and ubuntu ???"
[03:28] <Im_Toast> eseven: "ALSA" or "Intel ICH6 (ALSA)"
[03:28] <eseven73> alsa
[03:28] <ChotaZ> Why wouldnt I be able to type in a name on a game, but being able to use the keyboard for everything else?
[03:28] <bosco> cchaos, found gparted doing what i need it to do
[03:29] <shippo> matrixblue_: that was a no go, so you thing it is a bad disk then?
[03:29] <mlalkaka> what's the difference between "good" and "extra" visual effects? does it make a difference which one i choose if i am going to change the visual effects using compizconfig settings manager?
[03:29] <cchaos> bosco: if you want to use it for windows make sure it is either FAT, FAT32 or NTFS (NTFS recommended)
[03:29] <Im_Toast> eseven73: Nope
[03:29] <eseven73> !sound | Im_Toast (ok try these then...)
[03:30] <matrixblue_> shippo, I would still use the built in CD checker. Other options are the alternate text based installer
[03:30] <bosco> cchaos, right got that part that was the easy part
[03:30] <bosco> lol
[03:30] <matrixblue_> shippo, how much RAM does the system have?
[03:30] <shippo> matrixblue_: i've tried the alt installer and am not good with it, have yet to do that successfully
[03:30] <shippo> matrixblue_: 256 right now
[03:31] <cchaos> bosco: if you got that part, thats it lol
[03:31] <shippo> can bump to 512
[03:31] <ChotaZ> Why wouldnt I be able to type in a name on a game, but being able to use the keyboard for everything else?
[03:31] <matrixblue_> shippo, are you going directly into the install or are you starting the LiveCD environment?
[03:32] <shippo> matrixblue_: not sure which is which
[03:32] <tictac> is there an 'ubuntu way' of changing my video driver from vesa to nv?
[03:32] <matrixblue_> shippo, one option is "Try Xubuntu with affecting my computer" and the other is "Install Xubuntu"
[03:33] <tictac> i can always change xorg.conf, but didnt know if there was an ubuntu specific way of doing it.
[03:33] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am doing Install Xubuntu
[03:33] <cchaos> tictac: whats the graphics card you have?
[03:33] <tictac> nvidia 7300 go.
[03:33] <tictac> im trying to get 1680x1050 resolution. i had to use vga=840 during install to get a 1400x1050 resolution that my monitor supported.
[03:33] <matrixblue_> shippo, try the Try without affecting option....also whcih version of Xubuntu are you using?
[03:34] <shippo> matrixblue_: on the two previous systems though the install started with out my interaction and now it initially boots to a flashing prompt at boot:
[03:34] <tictac> now its set to vesa and 1280x1024.
[03:34] <tictac> ideas?
[03:34] <shippo> 8.10
[03:34] <dkkong> I've had to swap to the vesa driver to get my X to work because of a bug with my specific chipset. It won't let me select a higher refresh rate than 0hz now. Can I change this?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> tictac: sudo apt-get --reinstal install nvidia-glx-180; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> tictac: restart x server and run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[03:34] <rpk2012> hello
[03:34] <erhan> hi, what could be causing ubuntu not to recognise my monitor's model?
[03:35] <tictac> is that the nvidia or nv driver?
[03:35]  * tictac wants to use nv specifically.
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> tictac: nvidia
[03:35] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am testing the cd now
[03:35] <cchaos> nv drivers are old
[03:35] <mikejet> My ieee1394 FireWire ports don't show up in a "lspci -v" output. I did a modload raw1394, with no errors. What now?
[03:35] <eseven73> nv doesnt support 3d either, or was that changed?
[03:35] <tictac> i dont care if they are old. :P
[03:36] <tictac> nope. no 3d support needed.
[03:36] <matrixblue_> shippo, lemme know how that goes
[03:36] <rpk2012> I know people are probably all asking questions but I am seriously stuck.  Durring install and initialization, my pc froze.  When I rebooted, it said hd failure, and when I hit f1 to continue, no matter what, I can never see anything on my monitor, not even the bios info
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> tictac: i think the driver is needed to get the res you want
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> rpk2012: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded as well as verify the cd once you initially booted to it
[03:37] <tictac> ActionParsnip: ive used nv to get 1680x1050 on debian before xorg decided to do this automagick crap and borked the system.
[03:37] <cchaos> rpk2012: any bleeps?
[03:37] <rpk2012> Yes
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> rpk2012: did you burn as slowly as you were allowed
[03:37] <rpk2012> no bleeps
[03:37] <rpk2012> Yes
[03:37] <cchaos> rpk2012: can you enter BIOS?
[03:37] <matrixblue_> rpk2012, disconnect the HD and try to get to BIOS
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> tictac: if you are comfortable, you can manually populate xorg.conf and it will ovberride the auto settings
[03:38] <Ketrel> Wow, sersiously 64bit wep is LEFT OUT!?!?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: its not. I use it here
[03:39] <shippo> matrixblue_: no errors found
[03:39] <Im_Toast> eseven73: I have a question about the Sound Troubleshooting url you linked me to. Near the end it says I need to find something in 'lspci -v | less' called "Audio Device" but the only thing I have is "Multimedia audio controller" So... could this be my problem? Or do you think mine counts? lol
[03:39] <matrixblue_> shippo, It seems that the problem is occurring when it isn trying to extract to a ramdisk
[03:39] <Ketrel> ActionParsnip: it is not listed in the drop down, and I found a forum post complaining about it's removal
[03:39] <onionpie> hello all, how do I check what type of harddrive (IDE/PATA, or SATA) I have in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <LiveSwearengen> so i went and corrupted GRUB.. how is this super grub disk thing
[03:39] <Mercidia> hi there, has anyone ever played around with uinput driver? I nees help :S
[03:39] <Ketrel> ActionParsnip: also a repo to add to update the network manager to get it back
[03:39] <matrixblue_> shippo, add the additional RAM and try again
[03:40] <Mercidia> need*
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: i use the interfaces file for config personally
[03:40] <scunizi> LiveSwearengen: easier to just attempt to reinstall grub
[03:40] <pl4sMa> hi guys, can help... my built-in bluetooth is not detected, nothing shows up on 'hcitool dev'
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: you could try wifi-radar
[03:40] <scunizi> !grub | LiveSwearengen
[03:40] <eseven73> Im_Toast, not sure but keep asking, or maybe check the forums http://ubuntuforums.org :D
[03:40] <LiveSwearengen> no i deleted a partition
[03:40] <LiveSwearengen> well, it's still there
[03:40] <LiveSwearengen> lol
[03:40] <LiveSwearengen> i formatted a partition
[03:40] <onionpie> hello all, how do I check what type of harddrive (IDE/PATA, or SATA) I have in Ubuntu?
[03:41] <scunizi> LiveSwearengen: doesn't matter you can still reinstall grub
[03:41] <leo_> ?
[03:41] <matrixblue_> onionpie, open the PC and check
[03:41] <Ketrel> ActionParsnip: after I (hopefully) get this connected, I'm going to install Wicd
[03:41] <h8red> hi
[03:41] <onionpie> can I do it from the command line?
[03:41] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am trying the "try xubuntu with out installing" option real quick to see if it does anything
[03:41] <sebsebseb> h8red: hi
[03:41] <h8red> heya sebsebseb
[03:41] <h8red> im new to linux
[03:41] <Ketrel> Until then I gotta run half way across the house to where there's an ethernet jack
[03:41] <cchaos> onionpie: its a physical thing, so get the screwdrivers out
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> onionpie: sudo lshw > ~/hw.txt; gedit ~/hw.txt &
[03:42] <matrixblue_> shippo, if that does work then there is an install link on the desktop
[03:42] <scunizi> onionpie: easier to look in the box.. small typically red cable=sata  wide flat ribbon=ide/pata
[03:42] <h8red> this ubuntu is really cool
[03:42] <sebsebseb> h8red: did we talk before?
[03:42] <scunizi> h8red: welcome to the adventure
[03:42] <sebsebseb> onionpie: see my pm
[03:42] <h8red> i've never logged onto this server before
[03:43] <LiveSwearengen> i get error 15 not found with both
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: all drives have ide ;)
[03:43] <sebsebseb> h8red: oh nevermind I hi'ed you
[03:43] <h8red> oh was it an auto-hi
[03:43] <h8red> sorry
[03:43] <h8red> heh
[03:43] <sebsebseb> h8red: no not auto hi
[03:43] <wizared> i have a 2175 hp all in one. how do i get it to scan on ubuntu
[03:43] <sebsebseb> h8red: your running the server version?
[03:43] <cchaos> wizared: xsane
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> !scan | wizared
[03:44] <scunizi> ActionParsnip: only a coder would come up with that:)
[03:44] <eseven73> sebsebseb, you're*
[03:44] <sisterblue> how can I get .mid files to play
[03:44] <sebsebseb> eseven73: yes  you're
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !!!!
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: i just like the facts :D
[03:44] <eseven73> ;)
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> sisterblue: install timidity
[03:44] <scunizi> ActionParsnip: you'll never be a politician with that attitude!
[03:44] <sisterblue> hi actionparsnip  it is already installed but they still do not play
[03:44] <bosco> http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv164/boscoslife/Screenshot.png?t=1239417720 i need to know what partition i need to edit to make it so i have a ntfs for both ubuntu and linux???????????
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: i'm not even on the electoral register dude :)
[03:45] <scunizi> bosco:  you mean you want to share a partition between windows and linux?
[03:45] <lstarnes> bosco: ubuntu should be using a filesystem native to linux, such as ext3
[03:45] <rashed2020> Hey y'all
[03:45] <h8red> hey
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> sisterblue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268319
[03:46] <sebsebseb> rashed2020 hi
[03:46] <h8red> can someone point me to a good website with very basic explanations of linux terminal commands?
[03:46] <pl4sMa> hi guys, can help ? ... my built-in bluetooth is not detected, nothing shows up on 'hcitool dev'
[03:46] <h8red> i'm used to using a command prompt, but in DOS
[03:46] <h8red> linux is completely new to me :(
[03:46] <wizared> what about a lexmark x3430.
[03:46] <scunizi> bosco: linux won't run in ntfs.. windows won't run in ext3.. but they can share either a ntfs or ext3 partition for data.. typically ext3 is good  .. there's a driver for windows to see it
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> h8red: terminal is similar but has a billion times more power, if you are new just use the system and get used to it
[03:47] <cchaos> scunizi: more info please
[03:47] <scunizi> h8red: lots of the concepts translate.. if you know dos or some of it you'll catch on easier
[03:47] <scunizi> cchaos: ?
[03:47] <bosco> scunizi, right look at the screen shot of gparted and i need to know what i need to edit since i  have no space left so i dont loose any os
[03:47] <WebcamWonder> scunizi: There is a driver for ext2, not for ext3. If you use the ext2, you get to turn off disabling. Ntfs-3g, on the other hand, is much better
[03:47] <WebcamWonder> scunizi: journaling*
[03:47] <cchaos> scunizi: re: driver for XP to read ext3
[03:47] <h8red> ActionParsnip: I've only been using Ubuntu 1 day now
[03:48] <sebsebseb> bosco: and Ext4 is just round the corner in Ubuntu 9.04, and  Linux can read and write nicely to NTFS. and there's a  Ext3 driver for Windows
[03:48] <h8red> Whatever commands I've entered I've typed off the web
[03:48] <h8red> I have no idea what I'm typing
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> h8red: then just get used to it for now, get your hardware setup and then have fun
[03:48] <wizared> xsane doesnt work with a lexmark x3430. what will
[03:48] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Google has many, http://www.google.com/search?q=beginner%27s+guide+to+Linux+terminal&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> h8red: thats fine for now
[03:48] <h8red> cool thanks
[03:49] <scunizi> bosco: so you're just trying to create another partition?.. I'd blow away the swap and shrink the linux partition .. then recreate the swap
[03:49] <h8red> been a windows power user for a long time, having patience being a newb all over again is hard hehe
[03:49] <matrixblue_> h8red, download the ubuntu pocket guide
[03:49] <h8red> okay cool
[03:49] <tictac> hmm.
[03:49] <rotkeppchen> ... they are all counting sheep ...
[03:49] <tictac> nvidia tries to use 1280x1024 which isnt supported by my monitor/device.
[03:49] <matrixblue_> h8red, and read a new issues of fullcircle magazine
[03:49] <h8red> fullcircle?
[03:50] <tictac> i tried changing the mode to 1680x1024 in xorg.conf but it still tries to use 1280x1024
[03:50] <matrixblue_> www.fullcirclemagazine.com
[03:50] <tictac> ideas?
[03:50] <h8red> i'm assuming choppy flash / youtube video when maximized comes with the territory running this
[03:50] <sisterblue> actionpasnip  thank you  that is also already installed.  .mid files still do not play when using the browser  firefox or seamonkey why??
[03:50] <matrixblue_> http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org sorry
[03:50] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Yes. But it gets better if you are running Flash 10
[03:51] <h8red> hell i dont even know which one i got
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> tictac: you can manually populate xorg.conf with the res you want, set it to something your monitor CAN use then edit xorg.conf and edit it as youu wish
[03:51] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Try right clicking on any flash movie, it will tell you about <version number>
[03:51] <scunizi> WebcamWonder: true.. cchaos check out http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[03:51] <LiveSwearengen> if i dont have a /boot what should i do
[03:52] <matrixblue_> shippo: I'm guessing your problem is solved?
[03:52] <h8red> 10 sweet
[03:52] <sisterblue> actionparsnip thank you that is also already installed. .mid files still do not play when using the browser firefox or seamonkey why??
[03:53] <cchaos> scunizi: thanks
[03:53] <thatarmyengineer> i need help
[03:53] <thatarmyengineer> with getting ubuntu up
[03:53] <sebsebseb> thatarmyengineer: with what?
[03:53] <scunizi> cchaos: np
[03:53] <sebsebseb> thatarmyengineer: booted up or installed?
[03:53] <h8red> i got some really great stuff from the add applications button.  i have an rpn calculator now
[03:53] <cchaos> !ask | thatarmyengineer
[03:53] <sebsebseb> h8red: add applications heh
[03:53] <thatarmyengineer> well i installed it
[03:53] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, we need details to be able to assist
[03:53] <sebsebseb> h8red: use the synaptic package manager :)
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> sisterblue: not sure, maybe it needs a symlink to the plugins . let me websearch
[03:54] <sebsebseb> h8red: and you can learn how to get stuff usign command line as well
[03:54] <h8red> im not quite sure how seb
[03:54] <shippo> matrixblue_: not yet
[03:54] <thatarmyengineer> i installed it and all and im currently on windows 7 os
[03:54] <sebsebseb> h8red: add/remove is a cut down version of synaptic package manager and it isan't that good
[03:54] <scunizi> h8red: you think there's lots there. check out System/Admin/Synaptic Package Manager for more
[03:54] <shippo> It does not appear that it booted to the desktop
[03:54] <WebcamWonder> h8red: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> sisterblue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229671&highlight=midi
[03:54] <h8red> yeah i've been there
[03:54] <matrixblue_> shippo, what's it doing?
[03:54] <h8red> i search for something and nothing comes up in there
[03:54] <shippo> matrixblue_: sitting at a black screen
[03:54] <thatarmyengineer> like its installed on my c drive and all
[03:54] <h8red> like Deluge for instance.  found it in the add app but not package manager
[03:54] <sisterblue> actionparsnip thanx  lemme check that out
[03:54]  * h8red shrug
[03:54] <Ubuntunub> I can't get world of warcraft started on wine (wine channel is blocked invite only)--- Can anyone expierenced with wine/wow on wine help?
[03:55] <matrixblue_> shippo, did you add the extra RAM?
[03:55] <WebcamWonder> Ubuntunub: #winehq is the channel
[03:55] <Ubuntunub> WebcanWonder: thanks
[03:55] <thatarmyengineer> i mean i have a amd quad core and 8gb of ram and all i just need help
[03:55] <DG19075> h8red: you can use sudo apt-get install from a terminal to install stuff
[03:55] <cina1977> hi any 1 here
[03:55] <cchaos> !ask | thatarmyengineer
[03:55] <sebsebseb> cina1977: no
[03:56] <cchaos> lol
[03:56] <Ubuntunub> WebcanWonder: it says i am banned from it
[03:56] <cina1977> ok
[03:56] <thatarmyengineer> i have tried asking
[03:56] <cina1977>  :D
[03:56] <shippo> matrixblue_: not yet give me a sec
[03:56] <WebcamWonder> Ubuntunub: Well, there must be a reason. But you might want to try ot for that. This is the official support channel
[03:56] <WebcamWonder> !ot | Ubuntunub
[03:56] <thatarmyengineer> i need to know how to get ubuntu to boot up on a restart
[03:57] <hexoroid> how can i add user to have root privillages adduser -g or something
[03:57] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, how far in the installation are you getting?
[03:57] <WebcamWonder> thatarmyengineer: We need more detailed description as to what is happening
[03:57] <thatarmyengineer> i get fully into the install its all the way installed
[03:57] <lstarnes> hexoroid: sudo gpasswd -a username admin
[03:57] <sebsebseb> cchaos: we put him off the channel? he heh
[03:57] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, when you reboot there should be an option to boot from Ubuntu
[03:58] <thatarmyengineer> nope
[03:58] <lstarnes> Ubuntunub: try finding one of their ops with /msg chanserv access #winehq list
[03:58] <cchaos> sebsebseb: yeah go on then lol
[03:58] <matrixblue_> boot to Ubuntu*
[03:58] <sebsebseb> cchaos: he left rather soon after your lol
[03:58] <hexoroid> lstarnes what about normal name with uid 0 like adduser -g 0 or something like that
[03:58] <thatarmyengineer> it doesnt say to it just auto loads windows 7 no optopn
[03:58] <h8red> DG19075:  yeah i do the sudo get that's how i got my flash player and divx codecs
[03:58] <lstarnes> hexoroid: that is highly not recommended
[03:58] <h8red> and vlc
[03:58] <h8red> i tried to remove that lame totem player, it's so glitchy
[03:58] <h8red> but it wont remove
[03:58] <lstarnes> hexoroid: doing so will likely result in irrereversible damage
[03:59] <cchaos> sebsebseb: just noticed lol
[03:59] <WebcamWonder> h8red: That is the biggest sign of a power user. Removing totem :)
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !lol >  cchaso
[03:59] <rotkeppchen> ./
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !lol >  cchaos
[03:59] <h8red> well i dont think unbuntu wants to let it go
[03:59] <thatarmyengineer> ok is there a tech i could talk to cause im not getting any help
[03:59] <thiebaude> h8red: did you sudo apt-get remove totem?
[03:59] <DG19075> h8red; you'd use apt-get remove for that
[04:00] <WebcamWonder> h8red: It will ask you to remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, which can sound a little disturbing, but it isn't. However, for new uesrs, I recommend just keeping it around
[04:00] <cchaos> sebsebseb: fair enough
[04:00] <h8red> okay.  it's not taking up much space anyway im sure
[04:00] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, I', not entirely sure the wubi installer works on Windows 7 as that OS isn't officially release yet. (it would be retarded if Microsoft blocked Ubuntu in Windows 7)
[04:00] <h8red> i'm assuming vlc is the best linux video player?
[04:00] <WebcamWonder> h8red: I prefer mplayer handsdown
[04:00] <sebsebseb> h8red: no it's not the best
[04:00] <coz_> h8red,  well many people think so  I personally use mplayer
[04:01] <h8red> oh, really?
[04:01] <thatarmyengineer> well it wont
[04:01] <sebsebseb> h8red: mplayer is good and banshee
[04:01] <scunizi> h8red: I use both vlc and mplayer..
[04:01] <coz_> h8red,  vlc is great on windows though :)
[04:01] <sebsebseb> !best |  h8red
[04:01] <thatarmyengineer> as soon as it was installed i restarted and then bam windows 7 loaded no option to load ubuntu
[04:01] <scunizi> h8red: vlc will also tune online tv and radio
[04:01] <h8red> i didn't care for vlc on windows
[04:01] <h8red> more of a media player classic kinda guy
[04:01] <h8red> but i figured it was better in linux or something
[04:01] <lstarnes> thatarmyengineer: you could try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[04:02] <Xcell> sudo deletebillgates -F -r now
[04:02] <Xcell> j/k
[04:02] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Like most people said here. It boils down to personal preference, and most people either choose mplayer or vlc
[04:02] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, Other than trying the install again I'm out of ideas. Try the Ubuntu forums
[04:02] <WebcamWonder> thatarmyengineer: Were you trying wubi?
[04:02] <thatarmyengineer> yes
[04:03] <thatarmyengineer> thats what i installed it with i believe
[04:03] <h8red> i just did a quicksearch in synaptic for mplayer and nothing came up
[04:03] <scunizi> Xcell: that would be sudo rm -rf bill.gates
[04:03] <shippo> matrixblue_: new ram is in
[04:03] <Xcell> wow.. worked.. thanks
[04:03] <h8red> not sure what i'm doing wrong... i have the medibuntu packages in there
[04:03] <WebcamWonder> thatarmyengineer: Here is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/318135
[04:03] <KillerOrca> I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[04:04] <matrixblue_> shippo, try the install option from the first menu
[04:04] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Are you sure. Fire up a terminal and tell me if this command works, aptitude show mplayer
[04:05] <shippo> matrixblue_: trying that now
[04:06] <matrixblue_> shippo, crossing fingers
[04:06] <h8red> yeah webcam
[04:06] <h8red> it pasted a whole bunch of stuff
[04:06] <h8red> says not installed though
[04:06] <Rounin> Hello... I was wondering whether there's any simple way to make the little calendar in the corner in Gnome (seems to be called "Clock" and made by the FSF) to display Monday as the first day of the week?
[04:06] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Meh... I never liked synaptic in the first place :p.... Don't know why it isn't working for you though
[04:06] <sebsebseb> h8red: use cheese to test web cam
[04:06] <matrixblue_> h8red, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[04:06] <WebcamWonder> h8red: sudo aptitude install mplayer, to install it
[04:07] <h8red> thanks
[04:07] <B3rz3rk3r> sebsebseb, why not just use your computer to test it? :p
[04:07] <WebcamWonder> sebsebseb: You want to test me? :P
[04:07] <cchaos> Rounin: seems to be set on mine as starting day: monday
[04:07] <h8red> but searching in the package manager...something 'should' come up when i search right
[04:07] <matrixblue_> h8red, I like smplayer which is a front end to mplayer (gives better controls)
[04:07] <h8red> okay
[04:07] <h8red> thanks guys
[04:07] <Rounin> That's odd, cchaos... Is there a setting somewhere, or does it just detect it somehow, you think?
[04:08] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Yeah. On the left, there would be a category saying programs installed, not installed. Try switching the categotry
[04:08] <cchaos> Rounin: give me a min: Im playing with it
[04:08] <h8red> sudo aptitude install smplayer
[04:08] <h8red> thats what im about to do
[04:08] <sebsebseb> B3rz3rdk3r  and  WebcamWonder  did I miss something?   I thought someone wanted to get a web cam working,  and I haven't used cheese personally
[04:08] <Rounin> Sure
[04:09] <WebcamWonder> sebsebseb: He was asking about mplayer and abreviatted my nick :)
[04:09] <shippo> matrixblue_: same thing! :(
[04:09] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Yup, that would install mplayer
[04:09] <sebsebseb> WebcamWonder: oh ok
[04:09] <matrixblue_> shippo, where exactly does it hang again?
[04:10] <h8red> awesome
[04:10] <cchaos> Rounin: cant see any settings for it :a
[04:10] <h8red> so that's how i install stuff
[04:10] <tictac> bah i still cant get xorg to run at 1680x1050.
[04:10] <Rounin> cchaos: Haha, how odd... But thanks for checking it out, anyway
[04:10] <h8red> i don't quite get how that works yet, but cool
[04:10] <_Brun0__> sveakex, back
[04:10] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Yup. The power user way... :)... And to remove stuff, sudo aptitude purge <package_name>
[04:11] <cchaos> Rounin: go to about: what version are you using?
[04:11] <h8red> sudo aptitude purge vlc
[04:11] <Rounin> 2.24.1 it says
[04:11] <Mean_Admin> hi, I'm trying to copy my OS to a new hard drive. I've cp -ax / to a new hard drive, anything else I should do ?
[04:11] <h8red> well ill try to remove that from that package manager thing
[04:11] <h8red> it seems there are probably other files associated w/ vlc
[04:11] <Rounin> The Ubuntu version is... The ... the one from six months ago
[04:12] <WebcamWonder> h8red: If you remove vlc, all its dependencies would automatically be removed (it will inform you of those packages)
[04:12] <matrixblue_> h8red, keep vlc player
[04:12] <DG19075> h8red: you can also use apt-get install -y to eliminate the Do you want to continue question
[04:12] <Rounin> The <adjective> <animal or bird name>
[04:12] <cchaos> Rounin: same as mine then
[04:12] <h8red> why keep it?  i have mplayer
[04:12] <DG19075> that should be, apt-get install -y
[04:12] <h8red> i dont need 24 different media players
[04:12] <Rounin> Ah well, perhaps my .deb repository is run by a Jehovah's Witness
[04:12] <Rounin> It's a mystery
[04:13] <WebcamWonder> h8red: That is fine. It is your choice. Generally, linux programs are cheap in terms of their diskspace
[04:13] <matrixblue_> h8red, it can play some stuff that mplayer can;t
[04:13] <h8red> oh?
[04:13] <WebcamWonder> matrixblue_: Really? I have yet to come across such an event
[04:13] <matrixblue_> h8red, I'd remove everything except mplayer and VLC
[04:13] <h8red> i figured that would be more about the codecs than player
[04:13] <cchaos> Rounin: that I dont know
[04:13] <matrixblue_> WebcamWonder, FLV are one example
[04:14] <h8red> flv good call!
[04:14] <shippo> matrixblue_: trying again to make sure
[04:14] <h8red> does mplayer or vln do well with mp3
[04:14] <h8red> or should i get a mp3 specific player
[04:14] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Both do well
[04:14] <DG19075> vlc does
[04:14] <matrixblue_> h8red, for mp3 go with Banshee
[04:14] <bonez46> where can I find networking help? I want to get my printer set up to share on my LAN with some other windows machines..
[04:14] <WebcamWonder> h8red: But as far as library management goes, I don't think you can consider them as library managers
[04:14] <DG19075>  and alsaplayer does too
[04:15] <WebcamWonder> bonez46: ##networking
[04:15] <h8red> i always used windows explorer as a library manager
[04:15] <bonez46> WebcamWonder: thanks
[04:15] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Then you should be good with both of them :)
[04:15] <WebcamWonder> bonez46: Np
[04:15] <h8red> rockkkk
[04:15] <DG19075> h8res: here you can use nautilus or thunar
[04:16] <Radtoo> bonez46: or samba / cups tutorials (can't link atm, but you'll find some)
[04:16] <matrixblue_> h8red, they'll be good unless you want playlists, shuffle, iPod sync, etc
[04:16] <shippo> matrixblue_: starting ubiquity...
[04:16] <bonez46> Radtoo:  thanks..
[04:16] <DG19075> like you'd use windows explorer
[04:16] <h8red> the computer i'm sitting at now has a funky wireless card, always a pain to get the drivers installed in windows
[04:16] <matrixblue_> shippo, awesome!!!!
[04:16] <h8red> when i installed unbutu it was no problem whatsoever
[04:17] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Well, that is a first :D
[04:17] <h8red> come a long way, last time i tried to install linux years ago, i was stopped b/c of a lack of drivers
[04:17] <DG19075> which is why i dumped windows for this
[04:17] <shippo> failed again
[04:17] <matrixblue_> WebcamWonder, people always talk about wireless card issues but I've yet to come across one
[04:17] <shippo> matrixblue_:
[04:18] <h8red> i dumped windows last night when both my desktop and laptop cratered and i got enraged because i just formatted them both a few weeks ago
[04:18] <shippo> something about the monitor...
[04:18] <DG19075> and microsofts genuine advantage that say guilty till proven innocent on windows installs
[04:18] <matrixblue_> shippo, what exact error message do you get?
[04:18] <h8red> so i googled best linux distro.....grabbed the unbuntu torrent
[04:18] <h8red> and here i am today
[04:18] <WebcamWonder> matrixblue_: Depends entirely on what card you have seriously. I also don't have any problems with the wireless, but I have only used broadcom
[04:18] <shippo> splash: setting mode 640x480 failed
[04:18] <shippo> screen init failed
[04:18] <drowner> i had wireless card issues on Breezy, went away on edgy
[04:18] <DG19075> trust me, you'll fall in love with this beast
[04:19] <DG19075> rock solid and just runs and runs
[04:19] <h8red> i have a considerable amount of windows open on both desktop screens here
[04:19] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am dumped again to ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ prompt
[04:19] <matrixblue_> shippo, sounds like you have to use the alternate CD
[04:19] <cchaos> I had issues with a belkin wireless network card. I ditched it for a edimax one, but currntly using ethernet LAN
[04:19] <DG19075> wow
[04:19] <h8red> one of which is deluge downloading several gigs of torrent
[04:19] <h8red> with no slowdown at all
[04:19] <h8red> the only complaint i have is choppy flash video
[04:19] <matrixblue_> shippo, it's a graphics issue
[04:20] <DG19075> h8red try installing flashplayer-nonfree; that should help
[04:20] <h8red> i did that actually
[04:20] <shippo> matrixblue_: not sure why that would be the issue, it has a appian graphics jeronimo pro card
[04:21] <WebcamWonder> DG19075: He has Flash 10 already...
[04:21] <DG19075> ]in getting rid of the choppiness
[04:21] <h8red> its not so bad at 1152
[04:21] <h8red> but any higher desktop rez and its unwatchable
[04:21] <DG19075> hmmm
[04:21] <shippo> martixblue_:  crud that is probably it, i thought the video card was a matrox card!
[04:22] <cchaos> Whats the commend to edit xorg.conf?
[04:22] <h8red> i googled around a bit and that seems to come with the territory running linux
[04:22] <cchaos> command^
[04:22] <matrixblue_> shippo, not sure either but the fact that you make it to the terminal  ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ means that Xubuntu has loaded but the GUI is having an issue
[04:22] <WebcamWonder> cchaos: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (IIRC)
[04:23] <cchaos> WebcamWonder: ta
[04:23] <shippo> is there an appian graphics driver for ubuntu?
[04:24] <aprilhare> appian?
[04:24] <shippo> yep
[04:24]  * aprilhare has never heard of appian
[04:24] <shippo> aprilhare: they were a high end graphics card back in the late 90s
[04:25] <aprilhare> shippo: ic - they still produce stuff?
[04:25] <matrixblue_> shippo, I'm sure that there are drivers
[04:25] <genii> shippo: It uses S3 drivers
[04:25] <matrixblue_> but this one is having issues initializing X
[04:25] <shippo> Don't think they are in business anymore
[04:25] <h8red> hmmm does evolution sync w/ blackberry desktop?
[04:26] <h8red> if such a beast exists for linux
[04:26] <homeskillet> is there a movie player that can let me book mark where i was in video files so i can resume watchin later?
[04:26] <genii> shippo: My Appian Way Gemini does, anyhow
[04:26] <shippo> S3 drivers, good, is that part of the base install for xubuntu?
[04:26] <matrixblue_> shippo, either use an older version of xubuntu (8.04) or use the text based installer
[04:26] <rpk2012> whats a crc error     ---system halted
[04:27] <genii> rpk2012: Fatal
[04:27] <Siveran> Is there a way to disable ALSA only temporarily?
[04:27] <twolane> rpk2012: cyclic redundancy check
[04:27] <aprilhare> rpk2012: somebody has corrupted files
[04:27] <PeskyJ> is it possible to see WiFi passwords stored from previous sessions?
[04:27] <thebackwash> h8red: actually, you were talking about learning how to use the terminal progs before, weren't you?
[04:27] <aprilhare> not me :)
[04:27] <shippo> okay guys that is me for the night, i appreciate all of your assistance matrixblue_ and genii
[04:27] <matrixblue_> rpk2012, you need a new HD it seems
[04:27] <h8red> yeah
[04:27] <thebackwash> h9red: i found a really good site
[04:27] <h8red> just basic commands are what i need to learn now
[04:27] <thebackwash> h8red: softpanorama.org
[04:27] <h8red> i dont like having to essentially paste things from the web to install stuff when i dont know exactly what it means
[04:27] <WebcamWonder> homeskillet: You could just notedown the time, and resume from that time. But I don't know of any player that specifically has that feature
[04:27] <thebackwash> h8red: there are definitely some advanced topics on there, but there are also a lot of helpful hints
[04:28] <rpk2012> hrmm, well that sucks
[04:28] <h8red> thanks man really appreciate it!
[04:28] <rpk2012> what can cause this?
[04:29] <cchaos> Are there any scripts (from logon) that select the resolution to be used, or is it all based on xorg.conf?
[04:29] <PeskyJ> I'm at parents house and my brother who set it up is not in, I'm on the wifi on my laptop but need to get the password to connect the iphone too
[04:29] <WebcamWonder> cchaos: xorg.conf
[04:29] <epaphus> dpes openvpn in ubuntu have a GUI??
[04:29] <Radtoo> cchaos: You can use xrandr on runtime, but its not on logon.
[04:30] <matrixblue_> rpk2012, things fail but before you rule it out boot from a live CD and run fsck
[04:30] <coz_> epaphus,   gnome or kde?
[04:30] <epaphus> yeah either
[04:30] <coz_> epaphus,  GoVPM
[04:31]  * aprilhare wonders what can truly take advantage of the physx on his graphics card
[04:31] <crdlb> cchaos: gnome can set the resolution for you via XRandR
[04:31] <matrixblue_> anyway people...I have a site to finish. Later
[04:31] <coz_> epaphus,  openvpm-gui
[04:31] <epaphus> thanks
[04:31] <coz_> epaphus,   http://openvpn.fuchs.cc/
[04:31] <cchaos> WebcamWonder: thought so. So why would "root" login in with a 1280x1024 screen (from xorg.conf) but "normal" run with a 1024x768 screen res? (this is fixed now: Im just wondering what the problem would be)
[04:31] <Ketrel> Are there broadcom cards that CANNOT be setup at all?
[04:32] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: What do you mean by that?
[04:32] <WebcamWonder> cchaos: That is weird. The resolution would have been setup before the login screen
[04:32] <frybye> PeskyJ: phone your brother and ask him for the pw to the router . in the config there u find the key for the wifi..
[04:32] <crdlb> cchaos: because the user has changed their preferred resolution, and it was written to ~/.config/monitors.xml
[04:32] <PeskyJ> frybye: it's 04:00 here
[04:32] <crdlb> and gnome-settings-daemon reads that file to set the resolution at login
[04:32] <PeskyJ> um 04:30
[04:33] <epaphus> coz_, is that not included in the repository? i cant do apt-get install right?
[04:33] <frybye> then forget it..
[04:33] <cchaos> crdlb: so edit that file, and should be sorted?
[04:33] <PeskyJ> frybye: they're not stored somewhere?
[04:33] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: I'm trying to get a Broadcom card setup with no luck so I'm asking if there are any that simply will not work
[04:33] <coz_> epaphus,   hold on let me look
[04:34] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: Depends on your card. One of the models work fine for me
[04:34] <aprilhare> bbl
[04:34] <WebcamWonder> !broadcom | Ketrel
[04:34] <hanasaki> what is the best way to copy over 50 gig of data and keep permissions and owner/group info the same?
[04:34] <frybye> use a device that has already been setup.. and the i-phone next time..
[04:34] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: you're misunderstanding
[04:34] <coz_> epaphus,  I dont see it in the repisitory
[04:34] <Ketrel> I've done ALL OF THAT with no luck, so I'm asking if there are any cards that WILL NOT work at all
[04:35] <PeskyJ> frybye: my ubuntu laptop doesn't have the app-store on it
[04:35] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: Don't know of any cards that would refuse to work. What card do you have
[04:35] <epaphus> coz_, anything similar which is included?
[04:35] <coz_> epaphus,  mm let me check
[04:35] <cchaos> Hmmm cant see aa .config folder in home
[04:35] <PeskyJ> how does it connect without knowing the password? it must be somewhere
[04:35] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: remind me how to check again?
[04:35] <Ketrel> (I started this last night)
[04:36] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: lspci | grep Broadcom
[04:36] <fool_> hey guys is there a thunderbird equivalent on the console ?
[04:36] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: BCM4309
[04:36] <coz_> epaphus,  there is  kvpm for kde but if you are not running KDE I wouldnt install that because you are going to pull in the kde libs  and bunch of stuff you dont need for that one app
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there an easy way to check how much RAM my computer has in ubuntu?
[04:36] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:37] <WebcamWonder> Mike_lifeguard: free
[04:37] <epaphus> coz_, okey
[04:37] <frybye> PeskyJ: sure it is stored - and iirrightly - strongly encrypted...or?
[04:37] <epaphus> i run gnome
[04:37] <WebcamWonder> Mike_lifeguard: or top, or htop
[04:37] <coz_> epaphus, the openvpm-gui should be too difficutl to install let me check
[04:37] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: Intrepid Ibex
[04:37] <cchaos> monitors.xml: not found uunder search in file system
[04:37] <epaphus> coz_, but i see in the networking icon.. that there is a part that says "connect to a vpn" have you seen it ? default install
[04:37] <PeskyJ> frybye: is it in the keychain?
[04:38] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: And have you tried enabling the drivers from System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[04:38] <frybye> hang on i was wrong...
[04:38] <pubuntu> hola
[04:38] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: it found nothing
[04:39] <Ketrel> when I did that
[04:39] <DJvRadio> who was wrong??
[04:39] <frybye> double click on the wlan sig strength icon..
[04:39] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: it just is blank
[04:39] <DJvRadio> oh
[04:39] <frybye> selectthe name of the wlan there.. and EDIT then click on the box to show key..
[04:40] <crdlb> cchaos: I thought you said it was already fixed?
[04:40] <frybye> PeskyJ: got it??
[04:40] <PeskyJ> frybye: I did that but it's a big old string of hex or something, that's not the password I used... I actually know mostly what the password is, but it has some numbers in that I'm not sure of
[04:40] <crdlb> cchaos: it may be ~/.gnome2/monitors.xml on older versions of ubuntu
[04:41] <cchaos> crdlb: yeah, but with a high refresh rate
[04:41] <cchaos> crdlb: Im using 8.10
[04:42] <XiaolinDraconis> hi guys
[04:42] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: A quick google search suggests that people got that card working by ndiswrapper only
[04:42] <frybye> hmm.. i had that after mooving to jaunty too.. try copying the hex and entering that...
[04:42] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: I AM using ndiswrapper
[04:42] <XiaolinDraconis> chown -R is to own folder plus subdirectories right?
[04:43] <yinlong> who can help me that i can't shut down my laptop's bluetooth.
[04:43] <histo_> XiaolinDraconis: yes
[04:43] <XiaolinDraconis> ty
[04:44] <frybye> PeskyJ: i have to go for a bit now.. wish u luck..
[04:44] <yinlong> who knows how to shut down the bluetooth in ubuntu?
[04:44] <ice-nine> yinlong, you should be able to stop the bluetooth service at booth by checking /etc/rc5.d/ for the offending process
[04:44] <PeskyJ> frybye: I think that's the password used generated from the passkey, and if I type that into the iphone, it will hash it or whatever as if it was a passkey itself, rather than the hash of it.
[04:44] <PeskyJ> oh, heh
[04:45] <yinlong> ice-nine,tell me how to do clearly please
[04:45] <meoblast001> hi.... my CD rom won't eject a CD..... i need some help... how can i do this from the command line
[04:45] <XiaolinDraconis> chown -R doesnt work on /media    ?
[04:45] <ice-nine> yinlong, it's listed in my install as S25bluetooth.  In my install, I'd move that to K25bluetooth
[04:45] <XiaolinDraconis> got missing operand
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> ello Action
[04:46] <Royall> Does anyone know what the fonts are on in the screenshots on this page? http://torsmo.sourceforge.net/index.php
[04:46] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis: chown -R user:group folder/
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> holla
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> ty
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> thats what i forgot
[04:46] <ice-nine> yinlong, what does "ls /etc/rc5.d *bluetooth" return?
[04:46] <yinlong> ice-nine,i installed kdebluetooth4,does it work?
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> its user OR group right? not both...?
[04:47] <yinlong> ice-nine,ok,let me try it.
[04:47] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis: they can both be the same if thats what you mean, user:user
[04:47] <salvadorfl> hello
[04:47] <salvadorfl> i need help
[04:48] <yinlong> ice-nine,README                       S20dkms_autoinstaller  S30system-tools-backends
[04:48] <yinlong> S01policykit                 S20hotkey-setup        S89anacron
[04:48] <yinlong> S05vbesave                   S20powernowd           S89atd
[04:48] <yinlong> S10acpid                     S20rsync               S89cron
[04:48] <yinlong> S10sysklogd                  S20vboxdrv             S90binfmt-support
[04:48] <FloodBot2> yinlong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <yinlong> S10xserver-xorg-input-wacom  S20virtualbox-ose      S98usplash
[04:48] <XiaolinDraconis> chown -R user /media is what i typed
[04:48] <cchaos> !ask | salvadorfl
[04:48] <XiaolinDraconis> got no errors
[04:48] <salvadorfl> i want to connect to my  brother's computer using ssh
[04:48] <XiaolinDraconis> i understand u now
[04:48] <XiaolinDraconis> there is also a group of same name
[04:48] <Onasu> Does anybody have a link to a good detailed document for installing Ubuntu in a drive partition? I am currently running Win XP and would like to install Ubuntu into a partitioned space that is not on the primary drive. Thanks
[04:48] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis: try chown -R user:user /media/
[04:49] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis: user being a group.
[04:49] <meoblast001> how do i specify a filesystem type when mounting a CD?
[04:49] <salvadorfl> iit gives me this error ssh: connect to host 99.158.56.156 port 22: Connection refused
[04:49] <PeskyJ> meoblast001: -t to mount
[04:49] <PeskyJ> meoblast001: man mount
[04:49] <cchaos> bbs
[04:50] <salvadorfl> any body know how to fixit?
[04:50] <jblackhall> is anyone having trouble connecting to ubuntu servers for updates?  The main US server to be specific, I guess
[04:50] <jblackhall> launchpad as well
[04:50] <drowner> can someone recommend a music organiser/program thing
[04:50] <blacknred0> i have this error on thunderbird "warning: incompatible stripping characters and condition: SFX" any thoughts?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> salvadorfl: has he setup port forwarding on his router (if he uses one)
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> drowner: amarok
[04:51] <drowner> that will COPY all my files from one disk and organise them somewhere else (like *gulp* itunes)
[04:51] <drowner> not amarok
[04:51] <XiaolinDraconis> twolane: what i am trying to do is become owner of my partitions and drives... plus give administrators read and write access
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> drowner: banshee
[04:51] <drowner> can banshee do that?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> !players
[04:51] <mopoyo> STOP TALKING ABOUT WOW
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> !ipod
[04:52] <salvadorfl> dont have a router only modem
[04:52] <drowner> thanks ActionParsnip
[04:52] <yinlong> ice-nine,i use the command,and how to operate then?
[04:52] <drowner> i usually use rhythmbox, cause it seems nice and light
[04:52] <mopoyo> ActionParsnip, I have an ipod
[04:52] <ice-nine> yinlong, I'm running ubuntu, not kubuntu so may not be able to help.  But if I were to suggest, try opening synaptic, and entering kdebluetooth4 in the search, and deselecting the package to try and remove it.  After that, a reboot may be remove it for good.
[04:52] <drowner> but it doesn't actually MOVE the files into my library
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> salvadorfl: then make sure he's install openssh-server
[04:52] <drowner> and organise them
[04:52] <drowner> according to tag
[04:52] <sprockets2000> how do I make a folder hidden (NOT USING A . IN FRONT)
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: my comiserations
[04:52] <drowner> i have 'EasyTag' but i can't get that working with anything apart from mp3
[04:53] <yinlong> ice-nine,mine is ubuntu too.
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> sprockets2000: thats how yu do it
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> sprockets2000: in the linux OS, the dot means hidden
[04:54] <yinlong> ice-nine,i installed kdebluetooth4,but i can not display it.
[04:54] <mopoyo> ActionParsnip, you spelt comisserations wrong
[04:55] <Onasu> Does anybody have a link to a good detailed document for installing Ubuntu in a drive partition? I am currently running Win XP and would like to install Ubuntu into a partitioned space that is not on the primary drive. Thanks
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: you understood what i meant though so the language and spelling was successful
[04:55] <jua> sprockets2000 why you want another way to hide files?
[04:55] <frybye> PeskyJ: did you fix the problem..?
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> !dualboot
[04:55] <PeskyJ> frybye: no, I think the password stored is the hash of the passkey
[04:56] <ice-nine> yinlong, try removing the package via synaptic and see if it stops loading.
[04:56] <PeskyJ> frybye: so typing it into another device it does a hash of the hash (as if it were the passkey)
[04:56] <mopoyo> ActionParsnip, 0|< t|-|3|\|
[04:56] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis:  chown -R user:admin /media/ would give the admin group access. chmod may be necessary. Thats something you might want to read up on.
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: huh?
[04:57] <frybye> PeskyJ: figures.-.- don't see much answer to your prob then - except if there is a full-bore hacker here who -might- tell you how to break into your own pc ...
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: oh leetspeak, is that still used?
[04:57] <coz_> epaphus,  it doesnt look that difficutl to compile for your system but if you are not comfortable with that then google for vpn  frontends
[04:57] <mopoyo> ActionParsnip, you're an idiot
[04:58] <drowner> maybe i could write my own script to do it
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: 0110110001101111011100110110010101110010
[04:58] <drowner> especially considering everyone has stopped listening to me
[04:58] <histo_> ActionParsnip: wow making all kinds of friends tonight
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> histo_: 2 people of the billions of folks on the earth, i'll live
[04:59] <yinlong> i can not run my kdebluetooth4,who can help me?
[04:59] <GG111222> anybody willing to try to help an ignoramus like me?
[04:59] <ice-nine> VAxwell
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: wassup dude
[04:59] <mopoyo> I have a 4th generation ipod :)
[04:59] <ice-nine> watup?
[05:00] <R0b0t1> For some reason the hardware drivers app isn't doing anything, it seems to be stuck.
[05:00] <yinlong> ice-nine,ok,let me try.
[05:00] <histo> !bluetooth > yinlong
[05:00] <R0b0t1> I am trying to install an ATI video driver.
[05:00] <GG111222> Ubuntu can't see my cd player. Windoze and the BIOS do though
[05:00] <histo> !ati > R0b0t1
[05:00] <mopoyo> It's the fat one with the click wheel and it doesn't have colour :)
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: whats the output of: file /dev/scd0
[05:00] <histo> GG111222: are you sure it can't see it or the auto mount isnot working?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: do you want a prize?
[05:00] <R0b0t1> histo: My problem is not with the cards, it is with the application to activate the driver.
[05:01] <mopoyo> !ot > ActionParsnip
[05:01] <GG111222> now here's the bad part. The computer with this problem is in another location
[05:01] <histo> !ohmy | mopoyo
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> !ot no onoe cares about your ipod > mopoyo
[05:02] <PeskyJ> frybye: guess I won't get the iphone connected tonight then :/ no 3G connection here
[05:02] <mopoyo> Can an iphone run ubuntu?
[05:02] <minazo> is there an option so that i can get the terminal to beep? i've tried Edit -> Preferences but I do not see an option to turn it off or on. using xterm.
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: you can ssh over and run commands :)
[05:02] <frybye> PeskyJ: looks that way...
[05:03] <blacknred0> i have this error on thunderbird "warning: incompatible stripping characters and condition: SFX" any thoughts?
[05:03] <R0b0t1> I am unable to activate an ATI driver on my Mac. This is not really a hardware problem, it is just that the application that would otherwise allow me to do so freezes.
[05:03] <R0b0t1> The FGLRX, in particular.
[05:03] <epaphus> coz_, thanks
[05:04] <histo> R0b0t1: ati on a mac?
[05:04] <sifa> ae
[05:04] <R0b0t1> histo: Well, Ati on Ubuntu on an iMac :D
[05:04] <XiaolinDraconis> can some help me with a bash script
[05:04] <histo> R0b0t1: really didn't know they were using ati hardware
[05:04] <XiaolinDraconis> someone
[05:05] <histo> R0b0t1: well you can use ps aux to see if the installer is doing anythign or top
[05:05] <R0b0t1> histo: Oh, wait, for some odd reason the fairies fixed it...
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: wassup
[05:05] <R0b0t1> Time to restart.
[05:05] <R0b0t1> :S
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> R0b0t1: awesome :D
[05:05] <jua> R0bot1: where can i dl some fairies?
[05:06] <GG111222> The computer is not online. K3b says there is no drive. I'm ignorant so I was just hoping I might get a little info on what I might be able to try to the cd player working when I get home.
[05:06] <Mike_lifeguard> Anyone know good software to do screencasting? Specifically, I need a sane output file format, recording audio from mic, on-the-fly downscaling if possible and following the mouse pointer.
[05:06] <R0b0t1> jua: Hang out at highschools, people tend to sell fairy dust around there. I bet using that could summon some...
[05:06] <Luke__> anyone know if wine had a regression with wow this last patch? usually it runs awesome in ubuntu
[05:06] <jua> lol
[05:06] <XiaolinDraconis> Action: i PM'd you with the small script
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: try a different burned
[05:07] <R0b0t1> Luke__: Which version? Ubuntu doesn't have the latest by default. (Latest being 1.1.18)
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> *burn app  soyr
[05:09] <Luke__> latest is 1.1.19 today but i have 1.1.18 and fps went to 10 i might regress to 1.1.16 seemed to work better
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> Luke__: do you have the wine repo version of wine?
[05:09] <histo> Luke__: i've had that happen before with wine
[05:10] <Guest45821> is it possible to make a laptop always have its webcam working without me re-enabling it (even after a restart) and to send that webcam footage LIVE to another computer of mine?
[05:10] <yinlong> is there a command that can help me to shut down my bluetooth directly?
[05:10] <Guest45821> yinlong, you want to shut down your computer using the keyboard?
[05:11] <Luke__> yeah i use the wine repo
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> Luke__: cool
[05:11] <Luke__> i'm just gonna roll it back though i hate messing with it lol
[05:11] <Luke__> just wondered if anyone else was having problems
[05:11] <Luke__> the winehq irc is nonresponsive
[05:11] <Luke__> lol
[05:12] <yinlong> Guest45821,i want to shut down my laptop's bluetooth.
[05:12] <Ketrel> Anyone, I really need help
[05:12] <clearscreen> !ask | Ketrel
[05:12] <sebsebseb> Ketrel: with?
[05:12] <Ketrel> I've done anything, but I cannot get my broadcom card "14e4:4324" to work at all (and clearscreen: I already asked it)
[05:12] <Ketrel> *done everything
[05:13] <ice-nine> yinlong, removing the package did not work?
[05:13] <Guest45821> yinlong, o thats another story; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624094 maybe?
[05:13] <yinlong> ice-nine,i can't remove the via.
[05:14] <yinlong> ice-nine ,it returns that there is no such file.
[05:14] <XiaolinDraconis> anyone here good with shell scripts?
[05:15] <yinlong> which route should i come into?
[05:15] <GG111222> ActionParsnip, The device is actually a DVD writer. It worked fine using 8.04 and still works under windows and the BIOS recognizes the drive correctly but Ubuntu 8.1 acts like there is no burner installed in the computer. I will get the output of the command file /dev/scd0 when I can. What other information should I get and what might I try to be able to use the drive again? I apologize for my ignorance but about all I know how to
[05:15] <Luke__> i made one that made Xorg.config go bye bye on accident once lol
[05:15] <Xcell> kill it in processes?
[05:16] <jua> Xiaolin watcha need?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: could read through   dmesg | less
[05:16] <XiaolinDraconis> a little help with a simple script
[05:16] <XiaolinDraconis>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148735/
[05:17] <XiaolinDraconis> wondering why it wont work
[05:17] <jua> cant you just pick at random directly from the directory?
[05:18] <XiaolinDraconis> i dont know i copied someones script and edited the directories
[05:19] <clouder`grr> how do I save all the packages I installed into a text or something for later use?
[05:19] <clouder`grr> to restore
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> clouder`grr: old debs are in /var/cache/apt
[05:20] <GG111222> Thanks ActionParsnip. When searched forums and other places most of the results I got were too numerous and not exactly related to the problem I am having. I appreciate the help.
[05:20] <clouder`grr> hmm, what if I dont' have the space and would just like to have a list of installed packages
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> !aptoncd
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[05:20] <clouder`grr> or perhaps I cleaned out the cache
[05:20] <jua> Xiaolin
[05:21] <jua> try in line 9 replacing $ for $( and the last " for )"
[05:22] <XiaolinDraconis> #!/bin/bash
[05:22] <jua> also
[05:22] <clouder`grr> !automate
[05:22] <XiaolinDraconis> instead of /bin/sh
[05:22] <XiaolinDraconis> lol
[05:22] <cchaos> Ignore me Im reading............................
[05:22] <jua> lol
[05:23] <tt5786> hey all just a general question
[05:23] <derek> a noob question; i'm having a hard time with eclipse
[05:23] <jua> used that script sometime to rotate grub splashes
[05:23] <ironfroggy_> my ping avg is showing about 14 seconds. obviously my first question is, wtf?
[05:24] <tt5786> the weather function in Ubuntu. how to i get it to display my area (being Ballarat and not Melbourne) do i have to edit something somewhere
[05:24] <ironfroggy_> does anyone have a good tip or two for diagnosing this?
[05:24] <ironfroggy_> (wlan on a new machine)
[05:24] <darkschatten> #ubuntu-es
[05:27] <Mark_Jones> Hello guys I got everything working great on my new PC today, but Im wondering are there any pros or cons of running Ubuntu 64bit edition over 32bit edition? Im running a 2.2Ghz Quad Core 64bit Phenom system.Any opinions?
[05:27] <ZeZu> Mark_Jones,  there are a lot of both
[05:27] <Mark_Jones> hmm
[05:28] <bonez46> 64 bit will take advantage of the hardware..
[05:28] <ZeZu> Mark_Jones,  the first is some things are a bit more work to setup under x64,  flash etc
[05:28] <bonez46> better
[05:28] <PhotoJim> Mark_Jones: if using > 4GB RAM, 64-bit is necessary.  otherwise, it's really up to you.  Web browser Java has some issues with 64-bit mode.  That's the only issue that would hold me back from 64-bit mode, although honestly I do use it on my Athlon 64 notebook.
[05:28] <ZeZu> Mark_Jones, the second is some applications that are optimized will be faster with x64 where applicable
[05:28] <tt5786> does any one know how to add Ballarat to the weather function in Ubuntu
[05:28] <ice-nine> Mark_Jones, I used to run into problems with apps that work with 32 bit end up not working with 64 bit...
[05:28] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: Most notably, 64bit is using more registers and supports direct addressing of more than 4GB ram
[05:29] <Equs> tt5786 right click on icon select preferences> location
[05:29] <cchaos> Right Im gonna kill my monitor :P
[05:29] <tt5786> i have done that and the only Victorian places are Melbourne and Richmond
[05:29] <ZeZu> you can solve most issues by using the 32b apps as long as you have the 32libraries it needs
[05:29] <Mark_Jones> ok as far as RAM goes Ubuntu is very lean on that so I only bought a matched pair of 1GB sticks for dual channel use.
[05:30] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: Do you do any video encoding, 3d rendering, ...? (I'd guess not but who knows)
[05:30] <bonez46> what is dual channel use?
[05:30] <PhotoJim> tt5786: you'll have to select the closest one of those two to your location.  not all locations are included, unfortunately.  the larger, the more likely to be included.
[05:30] <Mark_Jones> So looks like package installation/availablility is the biggest issues as for as probs go.
[05:30] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: Or mathematical analysis
[05:30] <ZeZu> Mark_Jones, then if your not doing anything terribly usefull with 64b applications,  32b runs just as well and a bit easier in some cases
[05:30] <Mark_Jones> I do use Handbrake GUI to convert DVD to my iPod video.
[05:30] <ironfroggy_> when a wireless cards "works" but constantly has 1-60 second ping times, where can one possibly look for a cause?
[05:30] <tt5786> ballarat is larger then richmond
[05:30] <Mark_Jones> Very fast on quad core. 8min from dvd to ipod.
[05:30] <Guest69282> Is anyone here thinking of using BackTrack 4.0?  It is now Debian-based, so should be a shorter learning curve.
[05:30] <ctendell> Hello I got the separate X screen running but how do i get to it? Like mouse over to it?
[05:31] <ZeZu> I dont know what backend Handbrake GUI uses, but it could be a bit faster on x64
[05:31] <Equs> tt5786  did youtype in your location
[05:31] <tt5786> is there a way to get it included
[05:31] <ZeZu> but if its already real quick
[05:31] <tt5786> yes i did
[05:31] <PhotoJim> tt5786: is ballarat a suburb of Melbourne, say?  I don't know Victoria geography that well.
[05:31] <tt5786> and it came up with nothing
[05:31] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: Hmm... I don't know what that uses in the bakcend but most encoders ARE actually significantly faster in 64 bit mode
[05:31] <Mark_Jones> realy? oooh man I wanna try it.
[05:31] <tt5786> no it is Victoria's 3 largest city Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo etc
[05:31] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: For most other applications, a human can't actually notice the difference...
[05:31] <jua> Guest69282 has BT4 gone out of beta?
[05:31] <Equs> tt5786 that is all I know sorry
[05:32] <tt5786> dam
[05:32] <Guest69282> Jua: I think it is still in beta, but dunno when final is going to be released.
[05:32] <tt5786> is there any where on the web site i could look to get it added
[05:32] <rubydiamond> Hi guys
[05:32] <rubydiamond> how to I setup openvpn on my ubuntu
[05:32] <Mark_Jones> Ok ima go ahead and download the 64bit CD and give it a whirl. If all else fails ill restore my backup.
[05:32] <Mark_Jones> Thank you guys!
[05:32] <jua> BT is the absolute best livecd ever IMO
[05:33] <ice-nine> Hey, no better way to find out than to try...
[05:33] <PhotoJim> tt5786: not sure why they included Richmond and not Ballarat.
[05:33] <Guest69282> The one thing that was stopping me from making it my primary distro was that it was slackware based.
[05:33] <tt5786> nither i was hoping i could go around and fix it for the stat of Victoria
[05:33] <Guest69282> But now that BT4 is debian, it is a bit easier for an Ubuntu user to add the apps we need.
[05:33] <jua> Guest69282 is good news indeed the've debianized
[05:34] <Guest69282> Of course, then the quesiton is:  should we just use Ubuntu and apt-get the security apps, or the other way around....
[05:34] <bobbie4> I love the ubuntu and
[05:35] <tt5786> or is there some one i could email and let know
[05:35] <jua> i think it shouldn't be major diffs between either
[05:35] <ctendell> Hello I got the separate X screen running but how do i get to it? Like mouse over to it?
[05:36] <ctendell> IE ther eis no mouse pointer
[05:37] <PhotoJim> tt5786: presumably yes, but sorry, I'm not sure where.  truthfully, I checked it, my city was there, and that was the end of my thinking about it :)
[05:37] <tt5786> lol
[05:37] <tt5786> you in Australia
[05:37] <PhotoJim> tt5786: no, Canada.
[05:37] <tt5786> ahh
[05:38] <tt5786> yea well australia is all th way down here
[05:38] <tt5786> may be upgrading to 8.10
[05:38] <tt5786> will fix it
[05:38] <PhotoJim> tt5786: but I'm in a small city of 200K.  largest city in the area though.  so I guess the Ubuntu developers thought it should be there.
[05:38] <tt5786> yea
[05:38] <genii> PhotoJim: North Bay? ;)
[05:38] <ice-nine> PhotoJim, where are you in Canada?
[05:39] <tritium> !offtopic
[05:40] <Ch4d> hi all
[05:40] <PhotoJim> tt5786: I'm sure they'd give thought to adding Ballarat, as long as weather information is readily available.  I don't know what source is currently used.
[05:40] <lasivian> i'm trying to make a bluetooth dongle work, it detects my mouse, but the mouse doesn;t function
[05:40] <lasivian> a different bluetooth adapter and it works fine
[05:41] <tt5786> hmm do you know of any one of the people on the ubuntu team i should speak to
[05:42] <tt5786> well thanks for your help it is asking me to restart
[05:42] <tt5786> brb
[05:42] <PhotoJim> genii, ice-nine : answered by PM
[05:42] <PhotoJim> tt5786: no problem, good luck
[05:43] <theeclipse> Hello all, How can I find out if my Intel graphic driver is installed and its working or not ?
[05:44] <jdwarta> fn+esc
[05:44] <histo> theeclipse: glxinfo | grep render
[05:44] <cchaos> Ah thats better: 1280x1024 in 60hz
[05:44] <lee_> i've got a ppp connection set up over 3g but the speed it topping out at 11k - any ideas?
[05:44] <jdwarta> theeclipse: device manager
[05:44] <jdwarta> theeclipse: dxdiag
[05:45] <histo> jdwarta: no dxdiag on linux
[05:45] <theeclipse> jdwarta: Thanks man, what I got here is bunch of lines that say Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:45] <histo> theeclipse: did you try the comand I gave you
[05:45] <cchaos> Does anyone know how to clear this message:  This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>
[05:46] <histo> theeclipse: your probably using the old driver instead of the newer one due to the bugs with intel drivers and ubuntu.
[05:46] <PhotoJim> cchaos: /nick NewNickname
[05:46] <theeclipse> histo: oh sorry it was your reply that I sent to jdwarta
[05:46] <cchaos> getting rather annoying having to enter my password evrytime I come on here lol
[05:46] <histo> cchaos: you don't have to you can set up your client to do it.
[05:47] <cchaos> histo: how? Im using XChat-GNOME 0.24.1
[05:47] <duan> hi
[05:47] <histo> cchaos: under the settings for the server there is a spot for your nickserv password
[05:47] <jdwarta> what is the ubuntu equivalent of windows media player, or real player
[05:47] <theeclipse> histo: I executed that command that you gave me, rather those lines I also got this message "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig"
[05:47] <duan> yahoo
[05:47] <theeclipse> jdwarta: Amarok perhpas ?
[05:48] <jdwarta> theeclipse: i will try it.........
[05:48] <cchaos> histo: cant see that option
[05:48] <histo> theeclipse: the command is one line "glxinfo | grep render
[05:48] <histo> theeclipse: your looking for the line that says direct rendering
[05:48] <pyrak> i want to specify the filename that wget outputs to, but i don't want it to concatenate all of the data into one file.  which switch do i use?
[05:48] <ice-nine> Amarok 1.4 maybe.  I found Amarok 2.x a little lacking...
[05:48] <pyrak> -O does the unwanted concatenating...
[05:48] <histo> theeclipse: it should either be yes or no. But sounds like you have driver issues with your card. Which intel chipset do you have and what ubuntu are you running?
[05:49] <ice-nine> To get Amarok 1.4 installed in Jaunty, it was a pain.
[05:49] <pyrak> (ps: which channel should i go to for help with the command line and bash scripting)
[05:49] <coz_> pyrak,   #linux is one possiblity
[05:49] <histo> cchaos: its there on the server screen nickserv or password option.  Right below where you enter you nick I belive.  I dont' ahve xchat installed to check.
[05:49] <jdwarta> i'm using intrepid
[05:49] <brand0con> when I apt-get install a package that I already have, the terminal tells me about 70 packages, most of which i use, are no longer required and can be auto-removed
[05:49] <brand0con> how can i get these off the list other than removing them and reinstalling
[05:50] <jrq> hi can some1 help me with installing kubuntu
[05:50] <histo> cchaos: under the server password field
[05:50] <brand0con> im using debian but it shouldn't be any different
[05:50] <jrq> i used the normal disk and had a prob and tried the alternate disk and it install but then it says this error
[05:50] <histo> brand0con: sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:50] <theeclipse> histo: Im on Xubuntu and my Mother Board is 915 Express chipset
[05:51] <histo> brand0con: if they are packages you use then you removed a meta package that they depend on
[05:51] <cchaos> histo: got it now, thanks
[05:51] <histo> theeclipse: which versionof xubuntu run the command "cat /etc/issue"  no quotes ofcourse
[05:51] <jrq> an installation step failed you can try to run the failing item again from the menu or skip and choose something else the failing step is : select and install software
[05:51] <histo> cchaos: np
[05:51] <jrq> can someone please help me
[05:51] <brand0con> histo: so then these are positively packages i dont need?
[05:52] <bonez46> jrq: what do you need?
[05:52] <theeclipse> histo: Ubuntu 8.10
[05:52] <histo> brand0con: hard to say.  You said they are packages you use then I would say you need them.
[05:52] <jrq> i tried to install kubuntu and i had an error using the alternate disk
[05:52] <histo> !i915 | theeclipse
[05:52] <histo> ughh
[05:52] <jdwarta> jrq: I had loads of trouble installing ubuntu
[05:52] <brand0con> histo: i went through this before and it removed packages along the likes of gdm and openoffice.org*
[05:52] <histo> theeclipse: hold up let me check something should work out of the box I thought.
[05:52] <jrq> it said this
[05:52] <jrq> an installation step failed you can try to run the failing item again from the menu or skip and choose something else the failing step is : select and install software
[05:52] <theeclipse> histo: Thanks a lot
[05:53] <jdwarta> jrq: do you have XP installed?
[05:53] <brand0con> perhaps ill do it and just list the packages it removes and install them afterward as needed
[05:53] <bonez46> what are you installing?
[05:53] <jrq> i have tried to install ubuntu and kubuntu like 8 times now but i end up getting an error
[05:53] <jrq> i had xp installed i uninstalled i t
[05:53] <jrq> i just partioned my disk
[05:53] <histo> theeclipse: what about "lsmod | grep i915"  see if it shows the i925 module loaded
[05:53] <bonez46> so you have win xp on your machine.right?
[05:53] <jrq> yea
[05:53] <histo> jrq: what is the error?
[05:54] <jdwarta> jrq: idk.........do you have XP
[05:54] <jdwarta> I am having trouble with swapfile swap on booting up ubuntu
[05:54] <histo> jrq: sounds like you may have a bad cd.  On the boot menu there is an otption to check the media
[05:54] <jrq> an installation step failed you can try to run the failing item again from the menu or skip and choose something else the failing step is : select and install software
[05:54] <theeclipse> histo: Nothing :/
[05:54] <jdwarta> jrq:  check the media first
[05:54] <jrq> yea i have xp
[05:54] <jrq> i check the cd and it is fine
[05:54] <histo> theeclipse: well the driver isn't loaded for your card
[05:54] <jdwarta> jrq: i got 2 bad downloads
[05:54] <jrq> and i have hash checked it to
[05:55] <jrq> too*
[05:55] <lee_>  no one have any ideas why my ppp connection is so slow?
[05:55] <theeclipse> histo: should I get it from Intel? or search the community ?
[05:55] <histo> theeclipse: no its on the machine already just trying to figure out why its not loading I know that driver is buggy I thought.
[05:56] <theeclipse> histo: Thanks man
[05:56] <jrq> cuz be4 i was getting this error telling me init not found
[05:56] <jrq> that was with another cd
[05:56] <jdwarta> jrq: try booting XP
[05:56] <jrq> and i had this ubuntu cd that installed it but then hangs the comp at the end with the brown background
[05:56] <jrq> when i restart the comp its like nothing was on it
[05:57] <jrq> same thing with a kubuntu disk
[05:57] <jdwarta> jrq: insert the linux cd and select the "install alongside windows " button
[05:57] <histo> jrq:try doing a media check
[05:57] <jrq> can get rid of windows after i install linux on it ?
[05:57] <jrq> i did do a media
[05:57] <jrq> check it passes it
[05:57] <bonez46> jrq: do you need windows around?
[05:57] <bonez46> why not just install linux on your entire drive?
[05:58] <jrq> i dont want windows
[05:58] <tt5786> ok back
[05:58] <jrq> im fine with having just linux on it
[05:58] <jdwarta> jrq: that simplifies things
[05:58] <jrq> but ubuntu keeps giving me errors
[05:58] <jdwarta> jrq: is XP installed right now?
[05:58] <jrq> i picked the resize option tho
[05:58] <jrq> yea it is @ installed
[05:58] <jrq> shud i uninstall it ?
[05:58] <bonez46> well, if yo uhave saved all your data from windows. just run linux install from your disk and have it take over the whole hard drive
[05:58] <jdwarta> jrq: boot XP
[05:58] <jdwarta> jrq: lol
[05:59] <jrq> ok
[05:59] <jdwarta> jrq: and then go to my Computer and right-click on drive C:
[05:59] <jdwarta> jrq: click properties
[05:59] <sdwrage> Hey all
[05:59] <jrq> rite
[05:59] <jdwarta> jrq: and under the tools tab, click to format the drive
[06:00] <jrq> ok
[06:00] <jdwarta> this will completely purge the drive
[06:00] <histo> jdwarta: jrq The problem is mostlikely his media not the partitioning
[06:00] <sdwrage> im a newb to linux but need to setup a cron on Ubuntu Intrepid... could someone help me out with that?
[06:00] <bonez46> format with windows still running?
[06:00] <histo> sdwrage: what does the cron job need to do?
[06:00] <sdwrage> need a cron to hit a php file every minute
[06:00] <jdwarta> i think so
[06:00] <jdsandeson> may be a bad hd, windows will work on hd w some errors but linux won't tolerate an error in track 0
[06:00] <jdwarta> my friend did it and told me about it
[06:00] <jrq> i tried using different cds, dvds
[06:00] <minazo> Anyone know of how to get the terminal to beep under Xubuntu?
[06:00] <histo> sdwrage: every minute ugghhh What does the php file do?
[06:00] <jrq> but same thing
[06:01] <histo> minazo: ctrl+g
[06:01] <jrq> i had this on disk hang on me after installation
[06:01] <jdwarta> jrq: have you run a disk scan
[06:01] <jdwarta> jrq: on drive C
[06:01] <jrq> no
[06:01] <jully> http://gucken.deviantart.com/
[06:01] <histo> minazo: or type in beep should play a beep
[06:01] <lobo> program that I want to aplication not start in ubuntu ?
[06:01] <jdwarta> jrq: you must defrag and scan the HD b4 you try installing ubuntu
[06:01] <jrq> ok
[06:01] <histo> sdwrage: here is an excellent howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[06:02] <jrq> let me try it again
[06:02] <jrq> thanks for ur help
[06:02] <jdwarta> jrq: np
[06:02] <santana_> hi there
[06:02] <jrq> just out of curiousity does any1 kno a place in toronto
[06:02] <jrq> where i can get linux installed
[06:02] <jdwarta> jrq: no
[06:02] <histo> jrq: there are lugs
[06:02] <jrq> lugs?
[06:02] <jdwarta> i know a place in Alaska..........my house :-D
[06:02] <jrq> lol
[06:03] <histo> jrq: linux user groups
[06:03] <santana_> I have a problem connection to a wireless network, for which I've already worked around, but I want to understand why
[06:03] <histo> jrq: http://www.cluecan.ca/taxonomy_menu/10/201/173
[06:03] <jdwarta> jrq: idk of any
[06:03] <sdwrage> thx histo
[06:03] <jdwarta> jrq: ........not that i have ever looked
[06:03] <santana_> it's something related to avahi
[06:03] <jrq> thanks
[06:04] <jrq> well if it doesnt work ill ask u guys again appreciate the help
[06:04] <jrq> :)
[06:04] <santana_> my wireless interface is not getting an address (I'm using DHCP)
[06:04] <santana_> an IP address, I mean
[06:04] <tt5786> is there any one i can speak to, to add cities to the weather function on ubuntu
[06:04] <histo> jrq: just google lug toronto there are tons of groups near major cities like that.
[06:04] <histo> jrq: You can meet up they will help you getting going or you can always ask questions here.
[06:04] <lobo> alguien sabe una aplicacion para cancelar que arranquen programas en ubuntu?
[06:04] <santana_> After googling a bit, it seems that this is a common problem
[06:05] <histo> santana_: are you using encryption on yoru network?
[06:05] <santana_> can anybody shed more light on this issue?
[06:05] <histo> !es | lobo
[06:05] <santana_> lobo:  ??
[06:05] <santana_> histo: I'm using WEP
[06:05] <minazo> echo -ne "\a" should play a beep for me, right?
[06:05] <jdwarta> tt5786: click on the time in the menubar
[06:05] <tt5786> !en | lobo
[06:05] <histo> santana_: well most likely the wep key isnt' correct
[06:05] <tt5786> done all that and all that is there is Melbourne/Victoria
[06:05] <histo> santana_: what type of network card though?
[06:05] <jdwarta> tt5786: and click preferences
[06:05] <lobo> ok thanks
[06:06] <jdwarta> tt5786: i mean.......right-click on it
[06:06] <zack> i have 8.10 with nvidia (prop) drivers (v 180). dula screen setup. how can I make/set each new window to appear on a particular display?
[06:06] <jdwarta> tt5786: and prefs
[06:06] <tt5786> ok
[06:06] <histo> !dualscreen | zack
[06:06] <tt5786> ok
[06:06] <histo> !twinview | zack
[06:06] <santana_> histo: I'm the network admin
[06:06] <jdwarta> tt5786: you should be able to click a locations tab
[06:06] <histo> santana_: what type of network card is it in the machine?
[06:06] <jdwarta> tt5786: then just add locations
[06:07] <histo> santana_: youc an find out by running lspci
[06:07] <tt5786> yea then add and when i do this i type ballarat and it is not found
[06:07] <santana_> Proxim
[06:07] <histo> santana_: need to know the chipset of the wireless card
[06:07] <santana_> histo: ah, ok
[06:07] <AK_Dave> lspci
[06:07] <santana_> I don't have it at hand ...
[06:07] <histo> santana_: run lspci on the machine it will tell you
[06:07] <santana_> but I can see from the logs
[06:08] <santana_> that the NIC actually asks for an IP address
[06:08] <histo> santana_: you don't have the machine on hand?
[06:08] <santana_> it just arrives late
[06:08] <histo> santana_: well the time out on dhcp is like 50seconds I thought
[06:08] <santana_> and then avahi-ipd assigns it an IP address
[06:08] <santana_> histo: exactly.
[06:08] <histo> santana_: What chipset?
[06:08] <zack> histo, i know this, i already set a primary display there. anyway, if i click a shift-del on a dile on the desktop, it pops up the confirmation box on the other screen (which is my tv, and is not always on)
[06:09] <Brack10> I'm leaving ubuntu temporarily....bye for now I'll miss everyone
[06:09] <zack> dile=file
[06:09] <histo> zack: then the problem is?
[06:09] <jdsandeson> anyone know how to install vm ware?
[06:10] <santana_> histo: I'll come back tomorrow with the chipset, sorry. I don't have it.
[06:10] <zack> histo, i need to  know how to configure so this popup, and any new window appears on the primary screen
[06:10] <santana_> histo: but thanks for your time
[06:10] <histo> santana_: i've seen this behavior with card that need their firmware
[06:10] <MinusSeven> how much different is the alternate install process to the normal one?
[06:10] <histo> santana_: like the broadcom chipset
[06:10] <histo> !broadcom | santana_
[06:10] <jdwarta> does anyone know how to skip the swapfile swap on boot
[06:10] <MinusSeven> i'm having a problem getting the boot loader installed with the beta
[06:10] <histo> !swap > jdwarta
[06:10] <histo> MinusSeven: the beta is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <reid__> hello friends
[06:11] <santana_> histo: thanks
[06:11] <shawn__> Can anyone point me in the right direction for loading the gspca module in 2.6.27-11 ?
[06:11] <histo> santana_: np
[06:11] <reid__> I have been un-banned
[06:11] <reid__> =)
[06:11] <tt5786> so no one knows who i can talk to about this
[06:11] <histo> shawn__: have you tried modprobe?
[06:12] <shawn__> modprobe shows FATAL. Tried compile, complanes of header file.
[06:12] <reid__> anyone need help?
[06:12] <reid__> that isn't already being helped
[06:12] <jdwarta> me!!!
[06:12] <histo> tt5786: I think you can use any location
[06:13] <shawn__> supposedly the module was intergrated into the new kernel
[06:13] <reid__> jdwarta: what's going on?
[06:13] <jdwarta> reid__: do you know how to skip the swapfile swap on boot?
[06:13] <reid__> jdwarta: I'm not sure what you mean, but there should be a GRUB command for it
[06:14] <jdwarta> reid__: i timed it: that process has taken about 40min every time i boot
[06:14] <ShackTiDe> Hi all. I want to connect my HP 1020 to ubuntu 8.04 BUT i cannot upload my printer's firmware to /dev/usblp0. How can upload my firmware ??? I have numerous usb devices?
[06:14] <jdwarta> reid__: i found a temp fix
[06:14] <histo> tt5786: nvm I see what you mean if you right click on the weather applet then go to about. You can click credits and gives you email addresses for the developers
[06:14] <reid__> jdwarta: what is it doing?
[06:14] <remu> Hello everyone, I am looking at a javascript from a Thunderbird Extension. I was wondering, is there someway to check for the users architecture?
[06:14] <jdwarta> reid__: i can press ctrl+alt+del to skip it, and ubuntu boots normaly
[06:14] <tt5786> thanks histo
[06:15] <reid__> jdwarta: i see
[06:15] <reid__> jdwarta: does it cause any problems after boot?
[06:15] <jdwarta> reid__: no
[06:15] <ShackTiDe> Does anyone understand the USB ports in the newer kernels? How can I access my usb device???
[06:15] <reid__> jdwarta: what is it attempting to do during boot?
[06:15] <jdwarta> reid__: what do u mean?
[06:16] <reid__> jdwarta: like, what is it attempting to do with the swap during boot, that takes 40 minutes
[06:16] <OvernightPR> ShackTiDe: mount it?
[06:16] <jdwarta> it boots normaly untill it gets to swapfile swap....that process takes about 40 min, then it takes about 15sec to finish the boot
[06:16] <ShackTiDe> OvernightPR: this is a printer :)
[06:16] <Metal|AFK> bai
[06:16] <ShackTiDe> I want to upload the firmware only OvernightPR
[06:16] <histo> ShackTiDe: you can use lsusb to see if its detected byhotplug
[06:16] <reid__> jdwarta: gimme one sec, i'm going to do a little research, maybe I can help u
[06:17] <ShackTiDe> histo it is
[06:17] <jdwarta> reid__: unless i use the ctrl+alt+del ..........then swapfile swap takes about 2 sec
[06:17] <ShackTiDe> I see it lsusb
[06:17] <epaphus> hi guys.. ubuntu has an icon to connect to networks.. wireless, wired and vpn... why is that the vpn options are gray?? how do i enable this?
[06:17] <OvernightPR> histo: beat me to it
[06:17] <ShackTiDe> but how do I access it?
[06:17] <sdwrage> ok... so I added my cron to my crontab using sudo crontab -e and adding 0,1 * * * *  php /var/www/myapp/index.php ... nothing... am I missing something?
[06:17] <reid__> jdwarta: how did you install ubuntu
[06:17] <histo> ShackTiDe: what is it?
[06:17] <ShackTiDe> how do I upload my firmware like this: cat myfirmware > /dev/usblp0 (this was for ubuntu < 7.10 )
[06:18] <reid__> jdwarta: did you do it via wubi?  windows installer?
[06:18] <histo> ShackTiDe: what type of usb device is it?
[06:18] <daurnimator> hi all
[06:18] <daurnimator> my audio isn't working
[06:18] <histo> !sound > daurnimator
[06:19] <daurnimator> It was working until suspend/resume I think
[06:19] <redopinion> After installing a new program and restarting my computer, everything - toolbars, menu icons, fonts, really everything - turned giant size! Like three times the normal size, and I can't figure out how to fix it..
[06:19] <daurnimator> this is on an eee 1000h
[06:19] <jdwarta> reid__: i installed it from XP
[06:19] <reid__> jdwarta: I need to know how you installed ubuntu to help you
[06:19] <reid__> jdwarta:  I see
[06:19] <reid__> jdwarta: you installed within XP?  using wubi?
[06:19] <jdwarta> reid__: sry, i was googling  more
[06:19] <jdwarta> reid__: idk
[06:19] <OvernightPR> daurimator: my EEE pc was the same way when I installed Ubuntu
[06:20] <reid__> jdwarta: did you install within XP?  or did you install on boot
[06:20] <OvernightPR> daurimator you looked in the volume control panel I assume?
[06:20] <daurnimator> the menu->system->prefs->audio test buttons have an error when I use them:
[06:20] <hexoroid> is there anyway to download something with curl ?
[06:20] <histo> sdwrage: check your usage of the time there in your command looks wrong hold on let me check
[06:20] <jdwarta> reid__: i was in XP, put the CD in, selected install alongside windows, then when i rebooted, i chose ubuntu
[06:20] <daurnimator> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection terminated
[06:20] <reid__> jdwarta: I can help you, give me one minute
[06:20] <theeclipse> histo: Sorry again, im trying to compile DRI 915 drivers, it asks for Kernel Modules.. does it mean Kernel-Headers ?
[06:21] <epaphus> hi guys.. ubuntu has an icon to connect to networks.. wireless, wired and vpn... why is that the vpn options are gray?? how do i enable this?
[06:21] <histo> theeclipse: it should work with kernel headers yes.  but you shouldn't have to compile that you might want to ask on the forums.
[06:22] <histo> sdwrage: you need something like * /1 * * * * php blah blah that would be every minute
[06:22] <daurnimator> anyway, how do I go about getting my sound working again after resume?
[06:22] <daurnimator> I tried restarting alsa, same prob
[06:22] <theeclipse> histo: you mean it is already included in my Xubuntu?
[06:22] <JoshuaRL> epaphus: does it let you configure vpn connecton?
[06:22] <jdwarta> reid__: in my boot folder there is a folder called "grub"
[06:22] <daurnimator> also restarted pulseaudio
[06:22] <ShackTiDe> histo: USB bus 7 device 1
[06:23] <histo> theeclipse: it should be. I don't know alot about the i915 driver though but you should be using xorg-xserver-video-intel for a driver
[06:23] <histo> theeclipse: you can "lsmod | grep intel"  or
[06:23] <ShackTiDe> how do I cat my file to this usb??? histo
[06:23] <histo> theeclipse: "lsmod | grep i915"  to see if a driver is loaded
[06:23] <epaphus> JoshuaRL, it doesnt.. should it?
[06:23] <histo> ShackTiDe: what is the usb device? a storage device?
[06:24] <JoshuaRL> epaphus: do you have a vpn to connect to, or are you just wanting to know how it works?
[06:24] <ShackTiDe> histo it is a printer and I need to upload my firmware before printing. It won't start otherwise
[06:24] <theeclipse> histo: i810 is already loaded but I dunno if I should load the 915 rather than 810
[06:24] <reid__> jdwarta: there should be
[06:24] <histo> theeclipse: well you can lspci and make sure you have a i915
[06:24] <reid__> jdwarta: give me a moment
[06:25] <jdwarta> reid__: ok
[06:25] <epaphus> JoshuaRL, i have a vpn connection i want to configure...
[06:25] <histo> ShackTiDe: hold up let me see if I can find the /dev interface if there even is one anymore
[06:25] <theeclipse> histo:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[06:25] <Ralphi>  How many people here use rhythmbox?
[06:25] <sdwrage> histo, can I PM?
[06:26] <histo> sdwrage: sure
[06:26] <daurnimator> anyone please help with audio?
[06:26] <ShackTiDe> histo: how could they remove the good old /dev/usblp0 :(
[06:26] <histo> theeclipse: thats wierd you my want to ask on the forums I'm sure someone has the same intel card
[06:26] <histo> ShackTiDe: well everything went ot hotplug
[06:26] <theeclipse> histo: For sure.. thanks :)
[06:26] <histo> ShackTiDe: but if you've already loaded the firmware i'm sure its still there
[06:28] <jdwarta> reid__: do you think this fix would be safe?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501953&page=2
[06:28] <jdwarta> reid__: check the last post
[06:29] <jmatrix> yo dev source mod
[06:29] <ShackTiDe> I will trouble shoot in detail. Thanks histo
[06:29] <Brack10> Ubuntu is detecting my DVD RW drive as a CD RW/DVD ROM drive.....how can I fix this?>
[06:30] <bosco> how would i go about booting a Mac osx in ubuntu??????????
[06:32] <daurnimator> bosco, as a permanent switch?
[06:33] <adante> hi guys, when i try to boot a 2.6.27-11-generic kernel my system just stops -- but 2.6.27-5-generic seems to work fine
[06:33] <adante> should i bother trying to fix this or can i just keep using 2.6.27-5 ?
[06:33] <bosco> daurnimator, no as running ubuntu but inside of it running osx
[06:33] <JoshuaRL> epaphus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient  that might help
[06:33] <JoshuaRL> adante: can you boot into recovery mode on -11 and see if you get any errors?
[06:34] <daurnimator> bosco, you'll need something like vmware for that
[06:34] <daurnimator> or parrelels
[06:35] <daurnimator> bosco, virtualbox is a free/os program that will do it
[06:37] <Brack10> Ubuntu is detecting my DVD RW drive as a CD RW/DVD ROM drive.....how can I fix this?>
[06:38] <meoblast001> Brack10, i don't know much.... but does it let you burn DVD's?
[06:38] <JoshuaRL> Brack10: have you had any problems because of this?  im pretty sure that DVD-RWs can play and burn CDs
[06:39] <meglo> How would I determine why my Ubuntu(Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS w/ latest updates) is having applications crash here and there and doing a hard freeze(keyboard leds blinking, total lockup). It has gotten much worse than it was previously despite updates... it could be hardware.
[06:39] <adante> JoshuaRL: hm actually seems to be booting fine now.. maybe some other system instability heh :/ thanks
[06:39] <bobbie4__> I love the ubuntu
[06:39] <Brack10> No it's not detecting my DVD burning capability
[06:39] <meglo> How could I find out what hardware it would be? Logsfiles show nothing.
[06:39] <JoshuaRL> adante: cool.
[06:39] <Brack10> meoblas001: no
[06:39] <Brack10> JoshuaRL: ^^^
[06:39] <JoshuaRL> adante: if you have any more issues, you can do that to see what you can find.
[06:40] <huwenfeng> hi, i want to use fdisk to delete one partition, and add 2 new partition! and i found that, when i delete /dev/sda5, the old /dev/sda6 become /dev/sda5! and in /etc/fstab, it seems to be using UUID. after i repartition the disk, will my system be all right?
[06:40] <huwenfeng> by the way, i am using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[06:41] <JoshuaRL> Brack10: what apps have you tried?  and are you sure your media is good?
[06:42] <Brack10> JoshuaRL:brasero, yes it's good I just purchased it...doesn't detect it....places menu declares it as a CD-RW/DVD ROM
[06:42] <d^-^b> good nite
[06:43] <foxbuntu> oly562, this is for ubuntu support, not a dating service
[06:43] <foxbuntu> oly562, go hit chat rooms if you want that
[06:43] <x-jd-x> is anyone here running compiz with emerald themes?
[06:43] <d^-^b> -.-
[06:44] <meglo> How would I determine why my Ubuntu(Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS w/ latest updates) is having applications crash here and there and doing a hard freeze(keyboard leds blinking, total lockup). It has gotten much worse than it was previously despite updates... it could be hardware. Here is my screwy dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148746/
[06:44] <oly562> x-jd-x: i tried compiz, seems to be not working well with this card i use, would like to try emerald, but i dont have time to mess with gui at present
[06:44] <vintty> Hello everyone. my issue: I can't resume the session after putting my intrepid Ubuntu to either SUSPEND or HIBERNATE. I get an error message after I (move the mouse or hit a key) saying          "FW HOST 0 Self ID outside of boot sequence"               which displays only momentarily. The machine then remains idle and unresponsive and I have to force reboot. Any suggestions?
[06:44] <JoshuaRL> foxbuntu: is oly562 sending you inappropriate messages via PM?
[06:45] <foxbuntu> JoshuaRL, yes, he thinks this is a dating service or something
[06:45] <JoshuaRL> !admin | oly562
[06:45] <Mike_lifeguard> please don't use that magic word ^_^
[06:46] <tritium> !pm | oly562
[06:46] <Mike_lifeguard> If I wanted a text editor comparable to notepad++ what would I use in ubuntu? Specifically I need regex search+replace and syntax highlighting would be nice
[06:47] <ziroday> Mike_lifeguard: vim, emacs, gedit, kate
[06:47] <mib_f22su71u> Quick question about chmod. Will the -R option do what I want, if what I want is to change that directory, all its subdirectories, and files within those directories?
[06:47] <oly562> !pm | foxbuntu
[06:47] <ziroday> mib_f22su71u: yes
[06:47] <tritium> oly562: warning
[06:47] <AK_Dave> vintty: Ubuntu Intrepid, suspend problem. Gotcha. Tell me: what video card model, chipset, and what driver or kernel module are you using?
[06:47] <oly562> dont bother me, im busy
[06:47] <ziroday> mib_f22su71u: -R stands for recursive :)
[06:47] <foxbuntu> ok...who is the admin in here?
[06:48] <JoshuaRL> ziroday: foxbuntu and oly562 are having issues
[06:48] <mib_f22su71u> ziroday: Yeah, just checking to be cautious. Thanks.
[06:48] <AK_Dave> Mike: vi
[06:48] <foxbuntu> JoshuaRL, thank you.
[06:48] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: I am not an op
[06:48] <JoshuaRL> ziroday: alright, just recognised you
[06:48] <Ultraputz> is there a way to bring up the shutdown/restart/logout dialog from the commandline ?
[06:48] <foxbuntu> sorry, I meant tritium thank you
[06:49] <AK_Dave> something like sudo shutdown?
[06:49] <tritium> foxbuntu: no worries
[06:49] <drmrhorse> sudo shutdown now
[06:49] <JoshuaRL> tritium: thanks
[06:49] <wv56xC5YS> hey guys, I'm having trouble installing ubntu on my laptop
[06:49] <AK_Dave> I prefer 'reboot'
[06:49] <tritium> oly562: heed the warning, or next time it'll be a ban
[06:50] <drmrhorse> you can put a time in place of the now part
[06:50] <wv56xC5YS> when I try to boot live or install I can't get to a graphical desktop
[06:50] <tritium> JoshuaRL: sure
[06:50] <oly562> i dont see how saying hello is bad...
[06:50] <Ketrel> I'm completely stumped with this broadcom card, I've done everything I could think of and could find.
[06:50] <wv56xC5YS> I've tried startx
[06:50] <drmrhorse> i do sudo shutdown -r now for reboot
[06:50] <wv56xC5YS> and a bunch of other stuff
[06:50] <AK_Dave> Ultra: 'man reboot' and see what it says
[06:50] <Ultraputz> i'm looking for a way to bring that up, or, in effect, fire shutdown from a button (in userspace, therefore, without a root priv)
[06:50] <JoshuaRL> tritium: oly562
[06:50] <tritium> JoshuaRL: I see him/her
[06:51] <vintty> AK_Dave: (I'm a total noob. I'm from a mac os x background and just put ubuntu on my dad's pc as I couldn't upkeep a version of XP anymore so apologies if my knowledge of ubuntu is lacking.) From what I can tell the video: nvidia gforce 4 MX440. not sure of the chipset or kernal driver sorry mate.
[06:51] <sh1> hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu to my hard disk, but the partitioner only shows one disk, and I want to install it to another disk
[06:51] <oly562> has anyone gotten compiz to work properly with an Ati card?
[06:51] <wv56xC5YS> I have on my desktop
[06:51] <n8tuser> Ketrel-> broadcom 43xx is infamous
[06:51] <wv56xC5YS> I think...
[06:51] <ravennium> Anyone remember what was the setting in Compiz-Fusion that brings back the "top bar" of the KDE applications in Gnome (I'm using Ubuntu 8.10)???
[06:51] <AK_Dave> Ultra: I don't think you're going to, nor do you really want to, fire something like that from userspace without sudo. You could, of course, edit your sudoers to basically unprotect your system.
[06:51] <oly562> i sorta had it working, i didnt get the 3d mode to work though
[06:52] <drmrhorse> my compiz is working on my ati mobile radeon out of the box
[06:52] <vintty> AK_DAVE: it's an amd processor though..
[06:52] <n8tuser> sh1-> are you on a livecd?
[06:52] <drmrhorse> also, compiz real
[06:52] <daurnimator> someone please help me with audio after resume??
[06:52] <sh1> n8tuser: yes
[06:52] <oly562> drmrhorse: mind if i take a look at your configs?
[06:52] <Ultraputz> AK_Dave, so there's no way to bring up the usual shutdown / restart / logout dialog from commandline or via a message on dbus or something?
[06:52] <Ketrel> n8tuser: is there anything that can be done?
[06:52] <drmrhorse> xorg?
[06:52] <n8tuser> sh1 what does sudo fdisk -l   shows?
[06:52] <oly562> maybe i did something cheesy, havent noticed it yet
[06:52] <AK_Dave> vintty: lspci -vnn should tell you want you want about your video hardware. lsmod should tell you what kernel modules are loaded.
[06:52] <Ketrel> like completely out of the ordinary
[06:52] <oly562> i dont think the xorg is the problem
[06:52] <wv56xC5YS> I'll check
[06:52] <wv56xC5YS> wait
[06:52] <oly562> i compared with a few others... last week
[06:52] <wv56xC5YS> damn, that's not me :'(
[06:53] <n8tuser> Ketrel-> umm last resort is ndiswrapper
[06:53] <AK_Dave> Ultra: I won't say it can't be done, but it really ought not be done without root privs.
[06:53] <vintty> AK_Dave: cheers mate, i won't be a sec.
[06:53] <sh1> n8tuser: when i load the partitioner by itself, it shows both HDs.  but ubiquity only gives me the choice of one HD
[06:53] <oly562> looked fine, fglrx driver
[06:53] <Ultraputz> AK_Dave, so, what calls it up, assuming i launched it from a setuid root script?
[06:53] <n8tuser> sh1 you are doing something tricky here and you are not telling us the whole story..
[06:53] <oly562> glx as well mod loded
[06:54] <drmrhorse> i know that they changed the driver with jaunty for me
[06:54] <AK_Dave> daurn: if you're like me, your audio after resume is borked IF you had the temerity to leave Banshee or Rhythmbox open when you suspended.
[06:54] <oly562> im running hardy
[06:54] <suyog> hello
[06:54] <drmrhorse> oops, i thought i was in +1, its late for me
[06:54] <troopperi> sh1: is that other disk ntfs parition?
[06:54] <vintty> AK_Dave: I got a lot of info pop up. Would you like me to PM you? Or is there a specific line I should look for?
[06:54] <AK_Dave> Ultra: type please 'man reboot'. The command you want is reboot, but you probably want to specify some settings on it.
[06:54] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: did reid__ come back and answer your issue?
[06:55] <Ketrel> n8tuser: when I said I tried everything, that included ndiswrapper, and no luck >.<
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> So when I try to install 8.10 or run it live I can't get a graphical desktop
[06:55] <Ultraputz> AK - sure, i meant, what brings up the graphical requester?
[06:55] <AK_Dave> vintty: No need. Just scroll through and find what is relevant.
[06:55] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: errors?
[06:55] <sh1_> n8tuser: sorry, xchat crashed :(
[06:55] <sana> hello
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> I just get a black screen
[06:55] <magician157> could anyone please help me with port forwarding?
[06:55] <sana> i can't seem to get java working on my firefox
[06:55] <n8tuser> Ketrel -> dont know then, other than getting a different kind of card and driver
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> then I do alt+f1 to get to a shell
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> uhh
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> if I try startx
[06:55] <n8tuser> sh1 you are doing something tricky here and you are not telling us the whole story..
[06:55] <AK_Dave> Ultra: I don't know what brings up the graphical requestor. I thought you just wanted a shutdown from the command line.
[06:56] <sana> is there anyway to find out if I have it or not?
[06:56] <Ultraputz> AK - i was hoping there was a rootless way to bring up that requester in userspace
[06:56] <wv56xC5YS> if I try startx I get "Saw signal 11. Server aborting."
[06:56] <Ketrel> n8tuser: yeah, that's not an option :( only thing left on my list is Windows.
[06:56] <Ultraputz> since the user is never required to enter an administrative password to shutdown from the menu
[06:56] <ravennium> magician157, http://portforward.com/ ??
[06:56] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: please keep your responses on one line and address. Can you do sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start please
[06:56] <n8tuser> Ketrel -> ubuntu version?
[06:56] <Ketrel> n8tuser: Ibex
[06:57] <xi_> I'm using one of those internal made external hdd's via eSATA port and for some reason it keeps closing out the videos i play from there
[06:57] <magician157> ravennium, i do not use any router. i connect to the university network with a LAN wire and dot1x authentication
[06:57] <ziroday> xi_: errors?
[06:57] <xi_> it display no errors
[06:57] <xi_> it just closes the video out in mplayer
[06:58] <ziroday> xi_: can you run totem from the command line, and try to play the video
[06:58] <xi_> it was working fine untill i downloaded some packages
[06:58] <n8tuser> Ketrel -> there were some howto or troubleshooting posting re broadcom newer cards, try to  see if you can google for it
[06:58] <sana> i can't seem to get java working on my firefox...is there anyway to find out if I have it or not?
[06:58] <xi_> i downloaded, kubuntu-dekstop and Xubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <troopperi> sana: www.java.com
[06:58] <magician157> i have disabled the firewall on my computer using firestarter, but the problem still persists. cant seed on bittorrent clients, even though downloading is fine
[06:58] <ziroday> xi_: okay, I need that error. Please do as I have asked
[06:58] <ravennium> magician157, I really don't see how you could control the ports then. Isn't that what the university does?
[06:59] <n8tuser> sana http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[06:59] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday It goes to a black screen then back to the shell 4 times
[06:59] <wv56xC5YS> ugh, how do I pm somebody?
[06:59] <AK_Dave> magician: I think your university IT guys have charge of this.
[06:59] <Ketrel> n8tuser: This is not a new card, it's an old one, and I've tried everything google turned up
[06:59] <JoshuaRL> ravennium: since its on their network, they might have throttled torrent traffic
[06:59] <wv56xC5YS> nvm, got it
[06:59] <oly562>  /msg username message
[06:59] <n8tuser> Ketrel -> then none more i can point you to, sorry
[06:59] <JoshuaRL> wv56xC5YS: click their name.  alternately, right click and open query
[07:00] <xi_> ziroday: could not read from resource
[07:00] <ravennium> JoshuaRL, of course they have, but that's exactly what I meant... now magician157 can't do nothing about it, I suppose.
[07:00] <magician157> i know, i was hoping there might be some way to bypass the firewall. anyways, i am in china and the it guys speak only chinese, and i dont :(
[07:00] <JoshuaRL> magician157: not while being white hat.
[07:01] <AK_Dave> You're in China? Good luck with that port fowarding problem.
[07:01] <Sword^Fish> hi! I've low volume issue. here's my hardware details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148750/ . Can anyone help me please?
[07:01] <xi_> (totem:10157): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_object_unref: assertion `object != NULL' failed
[07:01] <MQDuck> if im going to do a fresh install of xubuntu on a computer, is there any good reason to wait nine days before using 9.04?
[07:01] <sana> i do have java....but I don't see an option on firefox to enable java or a plugin
[07:01] <xi_> pop up window said could not read from resources
[07:02] <Ultraputz> aha!
[07:02] <Ultraputz> gnome-session-save --shutdown-dialog
[07:02] <AK_Dave> magician: Okay, you COULD bypass it. In theory. Depending on what they've done to block this. But in theory you could ssh tunnel around it.
[07:02] <Ultraputz> this brings up the shutdown/reboot/logout etc dialog
[07:02] <JoshuaRL> sana: have you restarted firefox?
[07:02] <magician157> :-) nevermind, just two more months in china, so guess i'll have to live with it. btw, which is a better bt client for linux? deluge or vuze?
[07:03] <JoshuaRL> magician157: but you'll need an ssh or vpn server outside their network to make that work
[07:03] <AK_Dave> magician: What you need to do is to setup a server outside of the firewall, say a cloud server with amazon,
[07:03] <JoshuaRL> magician157: i prefer ktorrent for gui, and rtorrent for cli.  rtorrent is FAST.
[07:03] <ziroday> MQDuck: no, you can upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10
[07:03] <xi_> here is a question since i have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu on this computer, can i keep the setup to Ubuntu (so i see the ubuntu logo) rather then the kubuntu logo when turning the computer on and off
[07:03] <xi_> i started out using ubuntu and didn't get the kubuntu logo untill i downloaded kubuntu-dekstop
[07:04] <AK_Dave> magician: amazon's server rates are $0.10/hr, and they get cheaper than that if you prepay a block. $0.03/hr is cheap.
[07:04] <magician157> AK_Dave, how do i setup a cloud server with amazon?
[07:04] <MQDuck> ziroday: im not upgrading. im doing a fresh install
[07:04] <magician157> AK_Dave, thank you, i will look into it.
[07:04] <ziroday> MQDuck: right, but in 9 days when jaunty is released you can always upgrade to it
[07:04] <magician157> thank you all, wish you a pleasant day.
[07:05] <AK_Dave> magician: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
[07:05] <MQDuck> ziroday: but is there any good reason to wait?
[07:05] <Im_Toast> xi_: If you learn a way to... msg it to me pls
[07:05] <ziroday> MQDuck: if intrepid doesn't work jaunty is likely to
[07:05] <ziroday> xi_: do sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[07:06] <Sword^Fish> hi! I've low volume issue. here's my hardware details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148750/ . Can anyone help me please?
[07:06] <xi_> thanks ziroday (will that also give me the gnome login page rather then the kde login page?)
[07:06] <ziroday> xi_: no it will just change usplash
[07:06] <MQDuck> ziroday: im just thinking that i might be simpler to install the new version right away
[07:07] <ziroday> MQDuck: well its your choice, but intrepid runs just fine the way it is
[07:07] <cyptrix> Hi my pc doesn't boot ever since 2.6.27* came out
[07:07] <ziroday> cyptrix: errors?
[07:07] <MQDuck> ziroday: okay. thanks
[07:07] <soreau> Sword^Fish: Volume problems?
[07:07] <cyptrix> when I go to recovery mode, it shows me attempting to kill init, and stack  trace
[07:07] <cyptrix> at that point it hangs
[07:07] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday: I tried restarting gnome but it still didn't do anything. It just went to a black screen then back to the shell 4 times. No printed errors either
[07:08] <soreau> Sword^Fish: Tried switching your output jack to a different output from the card?
[07:08] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: okay, does restarting start X?
[07:08] <cyptrix> no idea how to troubleshoot it, the console output scrolls too fast and freezes
[07:08] <vintty> AK_Dave:  lspci -vnn "VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x], Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nvidia" as far as kernal modules go when i use 'lsmod' i get about a hundred lines and nothing looks relevant. what should I be looking for?
[07:08] <ziroday> cyptrix: okay, when booting normally press alt+F1 and jot down error messages
[07:08] <cyptrix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022723
[07:08] <cyptrix> nobody ever helped me out on forums either
[07:09] <ziroday> cyptrix: cross posting is not nice
[07:09] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday It gives me that error when I try to stop startx, saying "Saw signal 11. Server aborting."
[07:09] <cyptrix> cross posting?
[07:09] <ziroday> cyptrix: asking the same question in many places
[07:09] <AK_Dave> vintty: Looks like you're running an open source nvidia module. Did you say Intrepid? 'sudo apt-get install envy'
[07:09] <cyptrix> why not, when forums havent helped in months
[07:10] <ziroday> cyptrix: okay, that looks like a severe crash. Does a livecd work?
[07:10] <marcel> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:10] <marcel> then press G to go to the end of this logfile
[07:10] <marcel> look at the logs
[07:10] <vintty> well i'm running mint 6- but that's just ubuntu intrepid with a few extra bits right?
[07:10] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: well thats because you killed the process
[07:10] <ziroday> vintty: no
[07:10] <cyptrix> yes, i can boot when i choose 2.6.24-21-generic in grub
[07:10] <AK_Dave> vintty: Perfect! Mint 6 comes with Envy.
[07:10] <ziroday> cyptrix: what about a jaunty cd?
[07:11] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday: it gave me that error when I issued the command to kill the process, and the same error when I tried to start it
[07:11] <AK_Dave> vintty: You shoulda asked for help on the #linuxmint channel on spotchat.org
[07:11] <cyptrix> havent tried that
[07:11] <cyptrix> is there a way i can scroll up and check what the messages were
[07:11] <ziroday> cyptrix: just trying to understand if this is a kernel regression or not :). Could you please test with a jaunty daily livecd.
[07:11] <ziroday> cyptrix: ctrl+shift+pgup or one of those
[07:11] <vintty> AK_Dave: Sorry ... I tried the forums in mint but they didn't prove useful. I didn't know about the irc for mint. i'll use that next time.
[07:11] <sana> yes i have joshua
[07:12] <rubydiamond> gusy
[07:12] <rubydiamond> anybody using openvpn
[07:12] <bobbie4__> part
[07:12] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: sorry, I can't help you anymore
[07:12] <ziroday> !anyone | rubydiamond
[07:12] <rubydiamond> I am not getting how to start openvpn with nameserver optopn
[07:12] <rubydiamond> sorry ziroday
[07:12] <cyptrix> let me attempt ctrl+shift+pgup
[07:12] <rubydiamond> I need help on running openvpn client with name server option
[07:12] <vintty> AK_Dave: so, you're saying mint 6 has envy built in. I'm guessing envy has something to do with my solution. What next?
[07:13] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday: Do you think it could be a hardware issue? I've had lots of problems with my video card in windows, even after a repartition
[07:13] <AK_Dave> vintty: click on it
[07:13] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: don't know sorry.
[07:14] <vintty> AK_Dave: what's envy. I did a filter seach and I can't find it. Is it an application?
[07:14] <jdwarta>  JoshuaRL: no, he hasn't come back
[07:14] <AK_Dave> vintty: Its an application pre-installed with Mint, you'll find it in MintMenu. Click Felicia, and just click All. Scroll to Envy. Click.
[07:15] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: okay.  sorry, i dont know the answer either.  but you could pass along the info he asked for and ask again
[07:15] <vintty> It's not in my menu. Only thing under E (in all) is encryption and keyrings
[07:16] <JoshuaRL> vintty: from terminal:  aptitude search envy-ng
[07:17] <JoshuaRL> vintty: then aptitude show envy-ng
[07:17] <JoshuaRL> if its installed, launch it from the terminal
[07:17] <cyptrix> ctrl+shift+pgup doesn't work
[07:17] <vintty> E: Unable to locate package envy-ng
[07:17] <cyptrix> seems everything even caps lock freezes
[07:17] <ziroday> cyptrix: ctrl+pgup?
[07:17] <cyptrix> same
[07:18] <cyptrix> im using usb keyboard tho
[07:18] <cyptrix> does that matter
[07:18] <ziroday> cyptrix: right, its a kernel oops. Please test a jaunty livecd, if that still doesn't work please file a kernel bug tagged as a regressino
[07:18] <vintty> AK_Dave: E: Unable to locate package envy-ng
[07:18] <JoshuaRL> vintty: do the same with "envy"
[07:18] <cyptrix> ok ill try livecd of 9.04 beta
[07:18] <cyptrix> what does regression mean exactly
[07:18] <jdwarta>  JoshuaRL: ok
[07:19] <cyptrix> bug wise
[07:19] <ziroday> cyptrix: no, try a daily live cd. It means something that used to work no longer works and is a serious issue
[07:20] <AK_Dave> When you 'sudo apt-get install packagename' you only need to know the first few letters of the packagename and can TAB to autofill the rest. And if that doesn't work, double-TAB and you'll get a list of everything similar. Example: 'sudo apt-get install airTABTAB'
[07:21] <vintty> JoshuaRL & AK_Dave: i   envyng-core                     - install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver
[07:21] <vintty> i   envyng-gtk                      - dummy package to envyng-core
[07:21] <vintty> p   envyng-qt                       - install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver
[07:21] <vintty> p   envyng-t                        - Menu entry for envyng -t
[07:21] <FloodBot2> vintty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <AK_Dave> envyng-core
[07:22] <DigitalMan> No one responded to my forums post, amazingly.
[07:22] <xi_> envyng is a great package
[07:22] <DigitalMan> I'm having a small install error
[07:22] <JoshuaRL> vintty: yep, AK_Dave is right
[07:22] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: what problem you having?
[07:22] <xi_> it got nvidia to say hey while i may not know what card you have you have a card!
[07:22] <pahom> vintty: install envyng-gtk
[07:23] <pahom> after install, type envyng -t
[07:23] <DigitalMan> all the specs are right here if anyone has a chance to take a look, help is greatly appreciated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1122217
[07:23] <eXgame> How to fix startup error The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MultiLoadApplet". ?
[07:24] <marcel> how can I extract from the current kernel image it's kernel configuration
[07:24] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: you have the exact error?  gonna need a little more info to go on.
[07:24] <DigitalMan> How long are you going to be on JoshuaRL? :)
[07:24] <DigitalMan> Because I'm in the middle of doing stuff for work right now and can't boot into the cd atm
[07:25] <vintty> pahom: install: comes up with:  missing destination file operand after `envyng-gtk'
[07:25] <Im_Toast> Does anyone know of a way to like... kill 1 tab of firefox without killing the whole thing? lol
[07:25] <vintty> pahom: install: missing destination file operand after `envyng-gtk'
[07:25] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: ill post the same thing on the forums, and you just reply there soon as you can
[07:25] <AK_Dave> Im_Toast: Ctrl-F4
[07:25] <admin_masu3701> when is 9.04 coming out?
[07:25] <DigitalMan> Do what now?
[07:26] <minazo> As silly as it might sound i like the terminal *to* beep. I guess it keeps me company. :) Regardless, I can't seem to find a way to enable it on Xubuntu. I've tried several things...this is the last thing...this actually comes from the documents on Xubuntu so I would think they'd work but I am not hearing anything. Any ever have this problem? All I am reading on the web is people want it to *go away*. :)
[07:26] <marcham89> like 13 days
[07:26] <minazo> http://pastie.org/443556
[07:26] <pahom> enter: envyng -t
[07:26] <marcham89> !ati
[07:26] <admin_masu3701> marcham89: cool...is it gonna be stable?
[07:26]  * AK_Dave likes to cut the speaker wires on his computers so the terminal can NEVER beep.
[07:26] <marcham89> im running it right now
[07:26] <marcham89> its awesome.
[07:27] <admin_masu3701> cause i try the beta version but my wireless card didnt work
[07:27] <cyptrix> in case 9.04 live cd works, what should i do next?
[07:27] <cyptrix> it's gonna take a while to download
[07:27] <marcham89> I was having an issue with audio in 8.10 that now is gone in 9.04
[07:27] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: i posted what questions you need to answer on your thread.  im subscribed to it now.  reply when you can.
[07:27] <marcham89> did it work in 8.10?
[07:27] <admin_masu3701> marcham89: yes
[07:27] <ziroday> AK_Dave: you can also add blacklist pcspkr to /etc/modules.d/blacklist
[07:27] <DigitalMan> Sure.. as soon as I get a chance. Thanks :)
[07:28] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: no prob
[07:28] <vintty> pahom: Install the nvidia driver?
[07:28] <JoshuaRL> AK_Dave: heh, just in case huh?
[07:29] <marcham89> admin_masu3701: odd. The I am having a bit of trouble with my ati card in 9.04 when running compiz, but thats ati for ya :-/
[07:29] <jdwarta>  JoshuaRL: do you think that this would be a safe fix for my problem? ( last post) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501953&page=2
[07:29] <marcham89> ur issue should be relatively easy to find a fix
[07:30] <pahom> yap
[07:30] <Im_Toast> ATI > Nvidea =P
[07:30] <admin_masu3701> marcham89: i always had problem with compiz
[07:30] <marcham89> Im_Toast.... typo... xD and nah Nvidia is better
[07:30] <rubydiamond> guys
[07:31] <rubydiamond> anybody openvpn ?
[07:31] <Im_Toast> marcham89: Your crazy. =P
[07:31] <AK_Dave> JoshuaRL: Physically removing the speaker is the best bet.
[07:31] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: honestly, i have no idea.  but you could try it out though.  I'd backup important info first though, just to be safe.
[07:31] <jdwarta> JoshuaRL: ok
[07:32] <marcham89> Im_Toast: They are good, but Ive had a world of trouble with their drivers in win and linux
[07:32] <jdwarta> does anyone here know anything about the swapfile swap hangup when booting ubuntu
[07:32] <JoshuaRL> AK_Dave: the only terminal beep i wanna here is when i reboot my server via ssh.  and that doesnt count.
[07:33] <vintty> Pahom, AK_Dave, anyone else that helped: Thanks for your help guys. It's asking me to reboot. Sorry for being hopeless. Hardly used a terminal before in my life   = ) cheers. fingers x it fixes it.
[07:33] <marcham89> jdwarta: have u read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501953
[07:33] <jdwarta> marcham89: yes
[07:34] <marcham89> no help i assume?
[07:34] <JoshuaRL> marcham89: yeah, he found that.  he wanted to know if anyone knew if that was a good fix.
[07:34] <jdwarta> marcham89: idk if it is a safe fix
[07:34] <AK_Dave> Yes, reboot!
[07:34] <jdwarta> it is a safe fix?
[07:34] <pahom> vintty: np :)
[07:34] <Im_Toast> marcham89: Huh. I've never had a problem I guess that's why I like em ;). And it seems like I can get the same hardware cheaper
[07:34] <vintty> :-D
[07:34] <vintty> bubye.
[07:35] <jdwarta> AK_Dave:  you say it IS a safe fix?
[07:35] <marcham89> jdwarta: no idea. ive always been a risky person so i usually would jump into. but thats just me...
[07:35] <brutus> someone update bash.org
[07:35] <marcham89> Im_Toast: must be just me then. ha
[07:35] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: he was talking to me, sorry
[07:35] <jdwarta> lol
[07:35] <AK_Dave> jdwarta: I don't know what you're referring to.
[07:35] <jdwarta> lol
[07:36] <jdwarta> nvm
[07:36] <jdwarta> i am going to try the fix and reboot
[07:36] <jdwarta> cya
[07:36] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: let us know if it works
[07:36] <marcham89> gl
[07:37] <ziroday> !offtopic > brutus
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[07:38] <FloodBot2> maggotface: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <ziroday> !ops | maggotface
[07:39] <JoshuaRL> ziroday: he got the flood message
[07:39] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: he will be unmuted soon, at which point he will flood again :)
[07:39] <JoshuaRL> sorry
[07:40] <sir_ade> why he flooding the channel
[07:40] <jdwarta1> it worked!
[07:40] <rubydiamond> anybody using openvpn client.. I want to know how to push dns using openvpn client
[07:40] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: no worries :)
[07:40] <jdwarta1> next time, however, someone else can be the gineua pig
[07:41] <jdwarta1> lol
[07:41] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta1: sweet!  make sure you post to tell everyone about it
[07:41] <jdwarta1> where?
[07:41] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta1: on that thread you found
[07:41] <jdwarta1> ok
[07:41] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta1: its just good to let others know this fixes it for you.
[07:44]  * marcham89 wants coffee....
[07:45] <armornic1> hey guys, what is the default behavior of iptables?
[07:45] <xi_> which VM would you all suggest for Ubuntu ?
[07:45] <ziroday> !ufw | armornic1
[07:46] <ziroday> armornic1: sorry, I believe its off by default and you should use ufw to control it
[07:46] <xi_> Xen, VirtualBox, or VMware
[07:46] <ziroday> !best | xi_
[07:46] <xi_> ziroday, i ask for config reasons
[07:46] <ziroday> xi_: config reasons?
[07:46] <xi_> some programs are easier and config nicely while others require more work
[07:47] <armornic1> so, by default, any incoming connection is disabled, right?
[07:47] <armornic1> just to make sure I don't have a leak
[07:47] <ziroday> armornic1: I'm not sure
[07:47] <ziroday> !iptables | armornic1 see
[07:47] <xi_> anywho off to update to the beta
[07:48] <guillaume> Hi all
[07:48] <xi_> <3 APTonCD
[07:48] <JoshuaRL> armornic1: by default iptables is either closed or stealthed (same thing for security)  so by default its secure.  if you go installing other things, it may open ports though, depending on the app.
[07:48] <vagothcpp> Hi, I got a nano.save file that won't be removed in channel using: sudu su
[07:48] <vagothcpp> rm -f nano.save
[07:48] <marcham89> xi_ w00t have fun
[07:48] <marcham89> xD
[07:48] <JoshuaRL> vagothcpp: whats the error
[07:48] <ziroday> vagothcpp: does sudo rm /path/to/nano.save not work?
[07:49] <vagothcpp> I went sudo su first
[07:49] <vagothcpp> as my user is able to being on the sudoers thing
[07:49] <JoshuaRL> vagothcpp: just use sudo.  no need to be root.
[07:50] <leo_> hello,babies
[07:50] <Polk`> hello, I am trying to use RAID 5 with ubuntu server I am useing 8.04
[07:50] <guillaume> #help
[07:51] <guillaume> #?
[07:51] <Polk`> guillaume, ?
[07:51] <vagothcpp> Also, what is the command to change the owner of a directory and all files
[07:51] <pahom> !
[07:51] <vagothcpp> Not the permissions
[07:51] <ziroday> vagothcpp: chgrp?
[07:51] <ziroday> vagothcpp: oh, err chown sorry
[07:51] <vagothcpp> thanks
[07:51] <Flannel> vagothcpp: Which directory are you interested in changing?
[07:51] <Polk`> can someone help me
[07:52] <vagothcpp> not OS
[07:52] <histo> !raid > Polk`
[07:53] <Polk`> done
[07:53] <histo> vagothcpp: chown -R   would be recursive
[07:53] <vagothcpp> make clean
[07:53] <vagothcpp> wrong window
[07:53] <jdwarta1> being new to ubuntu, I am racking up DP in PMOG at a incredible rate
[07:53] <Polk`> histo, looking
[07:54] <histo> vagothcpp: somethign liek chown -R user:group /path/to/directory
[07:54] <histo> Polk`: ?
[07:54] <Polk`> histo, I am looking at it.. Thanks
[07:54] <histo> Polk`: looking at what?
[07:54] <Polk`> the PM
[07:54] <histo> oh
[07:54] <Polk`> histo> !raid > Polk`
[07:54] <Polk`> this.
[07:54] <Polk`> ha
[07:54] <JoshuaRL> vagothcpp: if you need more info on chown, you can always look at man chown
[07:55] <histo> sry forget what I tell hte bot to do sometimes
[07:55] <vagothcpp> With ./configure files, if I don't specify --prefix, does it install in the usal /usr/bin
[07:55] <vagothcpp> usual*
[07:55] <guillaume> vagothccp : man chown
[07:56] <JoshuaRL> vagothcpp: not sure, but i think so
[07:56] <Cappy|Here> i had a very snappy ubuntu-minimal + xfce4 install that got screwed up by some updates, now i've gone back to a xubuntu install and the machine bogs down quite severly what can i do to speed things up?
[07:57] <deany> usr/local for compiled, usr/ for the apt system
[07:57] <Double_Kill2> hey, how do i install limewire on linux?
[07:57] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: how long have you had xubuntu running?  what specs?
[07:58] <JoshuaRL> Double_Kill2: try frostwire
[07:58] <Polk`> !raid > Polk`
[07:58] <Double_Kill2> can you install limewire on linux?
[07:58] <Flannel> !frostwire
[07:59] <Cappy|Here> JoshuaRL, the xubuntu has been running for about 18 hours now, its a dual-core 1.8ghz laptop with 2gb ram
[07:59] <magnetron> Double_Kill2→ yes, but frostwire is better
[07:59] <Double_Kill2> alright, how do you install frostwire
[07:59] <JoshuaRL> !frostwire | Double_Kill2
[08:00] <Double_Kill2> ight, thought there would just be a command line thing that would just do it
[08:00] <phh45> Any info about the recent sound problems? Earlier there have not been any problems but after I installed updates for last 16 days on 9th April.
[08:01] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: so when you say it bogs down, what do you mean?  do you notice any memory or CPU hogs in system monitor?
[08:02] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: im running a 1.9dual with 3gb and xfce runs FAST
[08:02] <histo> Cappy|Here: when does it bog down?
[08:02] <Cappy|Here> i think i might have found it
[08:03] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: what you got?
[08:03] <Cappy|Here> thanks for telling me about System Monitor =)
[08:03] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: no prob.  what was it?
[08:03] <Cappy|Here> dunno, but im going to look around a bit more =)
[08:04] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: remember to look at both the cpu AND memory usage.  that will tell you something.
[08:04] <Cappy|Here> JoshuaRL, np thanks
[08:06] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[08:11] <histo> Cappy|Here: you can also use the command top at a console to see a text based monitor
[08:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Where are the standard sound files stored? The simple pings and error sounds etc?
[08:13] <taz_> hi... im look for good webiste... there have alot of wallpaper or background for ubuntu
[08:13] <Flannel> !gnome-look | taz_
[08:13] <taz_> thanks
[08:13] <histo> taz_: gnome-look.org
[08:14] <Flannel> !themes | taz_
[08:14] <Mike_lifeguard> Flannel: Do you happen to know where standard sound files are kept?
[08:14] <taz_> thanks again smile
[08:14] <BlackDalek> what was that command that makes each speaker play a sound separately for the purpose of testing if a multi-speaker setup is working properly?
[08:14] <Flannel> Mike_lifeguard: "standard"?  /usr/share/*
[08:18] <admin_masu3701> where is a good place to look for entry level IP jobs?
[08:18] <Robert_1> ip or it
[08:18] <admin_masu3701> IT
[08:18] <admin_masu3701> sorry
[08:19] <Robert_1> fine.. i can't think of any right now but they're all over the place
[08:21] <BlackDalek> ok I found it... speaker-test ...but how do I tell speaker-test to use the external USB soundcard and not the internal laptop speakers? There is an option for -D <device> but I don't know what to put in place of <device>
[08:21] <ruby_on_tails> can i install kde 4.2 without uninstalling kde 3.5 ?
[08:21] <histo> BlackDalek: speaker-test?
[08:22] <marcel> ruby_on_tails, i dont think so , the meta package kde points to 4.2
[08:22] <stew> BlackDalek: with -D devicename
[08:22] <marcel> ruby_on_tails, can you do apt-cache show kde?
[08:22] <BlackDalek> histo, yes. speaker-test in terminal makes the speakers play sound
[08:22] <Flannel> ruby_on_tails: On 8.04 yes, on 8.10 no
[08:22] <ron2010> when i try to restart the computer or shut it down it doesnt turn off my computer and reboot
[08:22] <ruby_on_tails> i am o 8.04
[08:22] <ruby_on_tails> on*
[08:22] <BlackDalek> stew, that IS my question - I don't know what to put in place of "devicename"
[08:22] <ron2010> it just restarts and gets me back to ubuntu login
[08:22] <Flannel> ruby_on_tails: instll kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[08:23] <ron2010> anybody know what's wrong?
[08:23] <platius> BlackDalek; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems    have you looked here?
[08:23] <ruby_on_tails> but i need to uninstall kde 3.5 ?
[08:23] <ruby_on_tails> first ?
[08:23] <Double_Kill2> hey i need to delete a file that needs root access
[08:23] <Flannel> ruby_on_tails: nope.
[08:23] <Double_Kill2> how do i do that
[08:23] <histo>  BlackDalek I was ansering yourquestion
[08:23] <marcel> Double_Kill2, sudo rm filename
[08:23] <histo> BlackDalek: I didn't see you already foudn it though.
[08:23] <jrq> can some1 tell me how i can get kubuntu features on ubuntu
[08:23] <BlackDalek> I see
[08:23] <ruby_on_tails> then i directly install 4.2 ?
[08:23] <AK_Dave> jrq: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:24] <marcel> jrib, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:24]  * AK_Dave FTW!
[08:24] <marcel> sorry wrong person
[08:24] <jrq> i dont kno what that means can u guys explain it
[08:24] <jrq> im new to linux
[08:24] <faus> I believe i just added the proper line to modules.d/alsa-base to get my sound card to work, is there anyway i can test it / reset the sound without rebooting my computer?
[08:24] <Double_Kill2> rm: cannot remove `2009-04-05_23.07.24.972975.jonathan-laptop.ful': Is a directory
[08:24] <marcel> jrq, its a package to install
[08:24] <AK_Dave> jrq: thats a command to type in a terminal
[08:25] <jrq> how do i go into the terminal ? is similar to how windows has cmd
[08:25] <Sword^Fish> hi! I've low volume issue. here's my hardware details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148750/ . Can anyone help me please?
[08:25] <pahom> use rm -f <dir_name>
[08:25] <ron2010> when i shut down it only goes to ubuntu login... anybody have this problem or know how to fix it?
[08:25] <marcel> pahom, sudo rmdir <dir-name>
[08:27] <Double_Kill2> it wont let me
[08:27] <ruby_on_tails> ok i just started downlading package files for kde 4
[08:27] <rww> Double_Kill2: rm -r directoryname
[08:28] <pahom> that`s right too
[08:28] <pahom> :)
[08:28] <kraut> moin
[08:28] <Double_Kill2> cant remove it
[08:28] <Double_Kill2> it has a lock sign on it
[08:28] <Double_Kill2> the file
[08:28] <rww> pahom: rm -f doesn't remove directories. rmdir only removes empty ones
[08:29] <rww> Double_Kill2: sudo rm -r directoryname
[08:29] <Double_Kill2> THANK YOU!
[08:29] <Double_Kill2> thanks rww!
[08:29] <Sword^Fish> hi! I've low volume issue. here's my hardware details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148750/ . Can anyone help me please?
[08:29] <marcel> -f is force, -r is recursive
[08:30] <rww> Double_Kill2: you're welcome :)
[08:30] <Double_Kill2> rww
[08:30] <marcel> Sword^Fish, whats the problem then
[08:30] <Double_Kill2> can i add you for future help
[08:31] <Sword^Fish> marcel, in windows I get higher volume than in ubuntu
[08:31] <rww> Double_Kill2: Probably best to just ask in here, rather than PMing people directly.
[08:31] <AK_Dave> Sword: turn the volume up in the ALSA mixer
[08:31] <marcel> Sword^Fish, did you try alsamixer
[08:31]  * AK_Dave FTW!
[08:31] <Double_Kill2> alright, just trying to make some friends
[08:31] <Double_Kill2> so i have people to ask
[08:32] <pahom> rww: yeah. u right. sorry.
[08:32] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, marcel  yep.. i tried alsamixer. all are tuned to max.. still low
[08:32] <marcel> to work for you :)
[08:33] <marcel> Sword^Fish, did you try also setting all mixer to high?
[08:33] <AK_Dave> Sword: Some specific audio hardware, esp laptops, need little tweak lines added to alsa's config file in order to work right. If thats you, I don't know. Do 'lspci' to find your hardware, and then let google be your friend.
[08:34] <Sword^Fish> marcel, yes... the sound is higher now.. but still not enough :(
[08:34] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, okay..
[08:35] <marcel> Sword^Fish, dont you have a speakerset with volume?
[08:35] <AK_Dave> Sword: You have 3 mixers to play with: ALSA, OSS, and Pulseaudio.
[08:35] <Sword^Fish> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) <-- lspci
[08:36] <Sword^Fish> marcel, speakerset gives much boost ; but laptop speakers don't
[08:36] <AK_Dave> Sword: That should be using snd-hda-intel if I'm not mistaken
[08:36] <artha> did anyone upgrade nagios 3.0.2 to 3.1 on ubuntu?
[08:37] <marcel> Sword^Fish, go to the alsa project website and mail something on the mailinglist, it think they can help you better
[08:37] <Robert_1> sword: have you tried different outputs in edit>preferences of volume control
[08:37] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, most likely. here's an article I found http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/linux-on-the-satellite-a215-s7407/ which tells to add a line in /etc/modprobe.d/sound but I don't see any sound file in /etc/modprobe.d/ dir
[08:37] <Sword^Fish> marcel, okay.. that's last option :(
[08:37] <AK_Dave> Sword: ChaCHING! Create the file yourself. Seriously.
[08:38] <marcel> Sword^Fish, why the last? you hate mailinglists?
[08:38] <Sword^Fish> Robert_1, yeah..
[08:38] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, ok.. let's see
[08:39] <Sword^Fish> marcel, lol.. nope.. I love #ubuntu, it's faster than mailing list
[08:40] <AK_Dave> Sword: faster answer, yes. The right answer? not always. Sometimes better to just drop a question to a mailing list and get the right answer, even if you have to wait. In this case, the answer was "just google it" and you came through on your own.
[08:40] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba <- I'm using AsusX51R, what should be my line?
[08:40] <AK_Dave> Sword: Beats me. You found the article. What does it say?
[08:41] <AK_Dave> Sword: according to the article you create the file an the one and only line that goes into it is:
[08:41] <AK_Dave> options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[08:42] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, it tells to download a driver from realtek website and add a line in /etc/modprobe.d/sound . but which driver is it?
[08:42] <Sword^Fish> but i don't use toshiba. it's Asus X51R. what should I write then?
[08:42] <AK_Dave> I think you should already have snd-hda-intel installed and probably loaded
[08:43] <AK_Dave> do 'lsmod' and you'll see
[08:44] <Sword^Fish> found -> snd_page_alloc         16136  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
[08:44] <AK_Dave> yeah, you're good. If you didn't have that module you'd have zero sound.
[08:45] <Sword^Fish> okay.. so I don't need to create that file then?
[08:46] <AK_Dave> I suspect  you do need to create the file, but you don't need to download the driver because it is already installed.
[08:46] <Sword^Fish> okay.. then I think that's max output I would be getting while I'm on ubuntu.
[08:47] <AK_Dave> perhaps you are correct
[08:47] <Q_Continuum> Is there a way to make the bottom bar (taskbar) two rows, so they don't compress the names so quickly?
[08:47] <klubinski> hello
[08:47] <Sword^Fish> thanks AK_Dave , marcel :)
[08:48] <clearscreen> This is just a question out of curiosity: Do all kernel modules have to be rebuilt for every new kernel version? I noticed how nvidia drivers require specific kernel headers
[08:48] <HamidReza> hi
[08:48] <HamidReza> i have problem with flash in firefox
[08:48] <HamidReza> only in firefox
[08:48] <klubinski> how can i use the ubuntu as a web server?
[08:49] <xtknight> clearscreen, yes.  dkms is a service that handles this automatically for some modules like virtualbox and nvidia
[08:50] <clearscreen> xtknight: aha, alright
[08:50] <xtknight> drivers have to be linked against the current running kernel sources, otherwise when you load them the "version magic" will be wrong.
[08:50] <bluejeans>  klubinski, dedicated server?
[08:51] <bluejeans> klubinski, check out ubuntu server edition.. either use it or install the package list it shows.
[08:51] <SqueakyNeb> Hey Hey everyone. I play WoW, and I want it on my laptop. My laptop is running Ubuntu 8.04. Anyone had any sucess with WoW+Wine???
[08:52] <Q_Continuum> SqueakyNeb: I haven't personally, but I think if you look on the ubuntuforums.org under gaming, or on the winehq website you'll find instructions/help with it
[08:52] <HamidReza> i have problem with flash in firefox (only in firefox)
[08:53] <HamidReza> help me,please
[08:53] <SqueakyNeb> Q_Continuum: I have found several guides for it, I was wondering if anyone has warnings or advice.
[08:53] <psychomantis> hey guys
[08:53] <bluejeans> HamidReza, is this jsut recently? since the last firefox update a few days ago many people have had problems
[08:53] <SqueakyNeb> HamidReza, Describe your prob
[08:54] <HamidReza> what's mean?
[08:54] <psychomantis> expose your problem properly
[08:54] <HamidReza> ﻿Describe your prob
[08:54] <psychomantis> hamid
[08:55] <HamidReza> a flash program work like a film
[08:55] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: WoW ran just fine under wine for me (I was using 8.10 though)
[08:55] <HamidReza> for exampel : speedtest.net
[08:55] <SqueakyNeb> @clearscreen, How does it run compared to running on windows??
[08:55] <krishna> how to download from youtube like sites using a software ??? pzl dont give me sites like keepvid....i want a native linux software to do it .. thanks
[08:55] <psychomantis> explain any details
[08:55] <HamidReza> it's like a filme playing
[08:56] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: there's no hardware acceleration for the mouse in OpenGL mode... but that's about the only downside
[08:56] <HamidReza> no
[08:56] <bluejeans> HamidReza, when did the problem start? does flash still work in other appilcations? have you done any updates recently?
[08:56] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, how does that affect it? im not entirely sure what hardware accel does for the mouse
[08:56] <HamidReza> yes,in opera worked
[08:57] <krishna> when i search using google.. all i got is only for windows :(
[08:57] <HamidReza> my firefox version is 3.0.8
[08:57] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: your mouse won't feel as smooth as it should.. if it really is a problem, some people have created a whine patch that makes it use your desktop icon instead
[08:57] <krishna> how to download from youtube like sites using a software ??? pzl dont give me sites like keepvid....i want a native linux software to do it .. thanks
[08:57] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, So you think it should be fine???
[08:58] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: wine* patch.. you'll have to manually build wine to apply it though
[08:58] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: depends really, you should try it out and make the consideration for yourself... dont forget to run with -opengl parameter
[08:58] <SqueakyNeb> krishna, Open synaptic, search for youtube
[08:58] <Bossmanbeta> ANyone use Sonata (frontend to MPD) ?  It does not seem to save selections to playlists, simply doesn't work.. (version 1.4.2), any ideas?
[08:59] <rww> !info youtube-dl | krishna
[08:59] <Dreamglider> Good Morning fellow Ubuntu'ers
[08:59] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, I just found something about opengl in this guide. I think it says something like that. THanks a lot
[08:59] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: you're welcome
[08:59] <bluejeans> Dreamglider, morning?
[08:59] <krishna> SqueakyNeb "There is no matching application available." add/remove told me this
[08:59] <krishna> when i searched for youtube
[08:59] <Dreamglider> bluejeans, yes Morning :)
[09:00] <Dreamglider> bluejeans, 08:59 here
[09:00] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: we just have to hope blizzard will add hardware acceleration for OpenGL in windows (it does have it on the Mac!)
[09:00] <HamidReza> but in my city not morning
[09:00] <bluejeans> Dreamglider, haha.. i wasjust about to say "g'nightall"
[09:00] <SqueakyNeb> krishna, you are doing it wrong. open synaptic package manager, and click search up the top
[09:00] <BlackDalek> I am trying to follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=997506 but when I get to "Go to System/Preferences/Default Sound Card" nothing happens... it says "starting default soundcard" then nothing...
[09:00] <krishna> in a website , its told that "rm -rf /" is  a dangerous command ?? why ? what  will it do ?
[09:00] <Dreamglider> bluejeans,  what's your time ?
[09:00] <krishna> SqueakyNeb, ok
[09:01] <clearscreen> !rm-rf | krishna
[09:01] <HamidReza> 12:32 PM
[09:01] <clearscreen> mmpf
[09:01] <knoxville> krishna, your joking right?
[09:01] <krishna> clearscreen, ?
[09:01] <bluejeans> Dreamglider, 1am
[09:01] <HamidReza> help
[09:01] <krishna> knoxville, i am NOT
[09:01] <Ignoramus11> I have a quick question for you guys, im on opensuse 11.1 but I want to try out ubuntu,  When i choose to download the 64bit version it says its a amd64 install, i have an intel chip
[09:01] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, Mac is a *nix like OS, right? can you run mac binaries on linux??
[09:01] <krishna> knoxville, in a linux website.. its told that "rm -rf /" is dangerous
[09:01] <Dreamglider> that's 01:00 yes ?
[09:01] <knoxville> krishna, well it will delete everything without asking you twice
[09:01] <usser> SqueakyNeb, nope its binary incompatible
[09:02] <krishna> knoxville, what do you mean by "Everything" ?
[09:02] <Bossmanbeta> ANyone use Sonata (frontend to MPD) ?  It does not seem to save selections to playlists, simply doesn't work.. (version 1.4.2), any ideas?
[09:02] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: Mac is based on a BSD kernel which is indeed based off of unix, but as usser has stated, binaries are indeed incompatible unfortunately
[09:02] <bluejeans> Ignoramus11, unless you have an amd64 jsut get the 32 bit
[09:02] <knoxville> krishna well / refers to the root directory which means it would delte everything inside the root directory that you have permission to delete
[09:02] <HamidReza> flash don't work in firefox
[09:02] <Ignoramus11> what if i have 12 gigs of ram >.<
[09:02] <clearscreen> krishna: rm is the remove/delete command ;) / is the root directory.. have fun deleting all your files
[09:03] <krishna> SqueakyNeb, is there any gui for youtube-dl
[09:03] <bluejeans> Ignoramus11, irrelevent
[09:03] <rww> Ignoramus11: amd64 is the same thing as x86_64. If you're using a recent Intel chip, it's compatible.
[09:03] <krishna> clearscreen, knoxville , thanks.. now clearly understood
[09:03] <bluejeans> Ignoramus11, its the processor we're talking about
[09:03] <rww> Ignoramus11: i.e. Core2 or i7.
[09:03] <Ignoramus11> thanks rww
[09:03] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, usser, :( disapointment. If there was a program like wine for Mac binaries in Linux, would it work better than wine?
[09:03] <krishna> knoxville, then will it delete the system files too ???
[09:03] <Ignoramus11> core 2
[09:03] <knoxville> krishna if you own the webserver and have sudo permissions, yes!
[09:03] <bluejeans> Ignoramus11, ok then you're good..
[09:03] <SqueakyNeb> krishna, Yes, i used to have 2-4 of them, but i got rid of them when i realised the pointlessness
[09:03] <rww> Ignoramus11: I'm running a Core 2 Quad with amd64 Ubuntu right now. You're fine :).
[09:04] <Ignoramus11> cool man thanks for responce
[09:04] <tsLight> why isn't ghostview on the repositories? I think it was a while back...
[09:04] <anhtaidatquang> hello
[09:04] <krishna> knoxville, you mean , it wil delet the contents of home folder too  ;-P
[09:04] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: Not really, the problem is that blizzard was too lazy to add hardware acceleration for cursors in openGL mode in their windows binaries
[09:04] <anhtaidatquang> i want get apt
[09:04] <rww> tsLight: is package "gv" what you're looking for?
[09:04] <anhtaidatquang> gtk
[09:04] <krishna> SqueakyNeb, plz suggest me something :-|
[09:04] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, K, thanks
[09:04] <anhtaidatquang> i need install GTK
[09:05] <tsLight> rww, oh, that seems to be it :P, thanks!
[09:05] <SqueakyNeb> krishna, Are you using synaptic package manager??
[09:05] <anhtaidatquang> my machine clear GTK
[09:05] <krishna> SqueakyNeb, YES ! i use it
[09:05] <krishna> SqueakyNeb, i want a GUI for youtube-dl
[09:05] <knoxville> krishna, yes!  what are you trying to do?
[09:06] <SqueakyNeb> use clive
[09:06] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: that would seem logical for their development point of view (windows users should generally be using direct3d), but wine uses an opengl wrapper to handle direct3d code
[09:06] <SqueakyNeb> i think is what i used
[09:06] <krishna> knoxville, i want to know what all it will delete ..... it will also empty the windows drives of C  D E F too ? :-O :O
[09:06] <krishna> knoxville, if yes, then this command wil be dangerous ,. wont it ? :O
[09:07] <knoxville> It will delete anything that is mounted to the / aka root directory krishna
[09:07] <BlackDalek> when I type asoundconf-gtk it responds  "You need to make sure asoundconf is active! By default, asoundconf's configuration file is ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf and must be included in ~/.asoundrc. Open this file to make sure it is!" I don't understand what it wants me to do?
[09:07] <knoxville> krishna if you type mount you can view if other filesystems are mounted to / and yet it would delete them also
[09:07] <SqueakyNeb> knoxville, what is he talking about?
[09:07] <HamidReza> ﻿please help me
[09:08] <knoxville> SqueakyNeb, he wants to know if it will delete his windows fs also
[09:08] <SqueakyNeb> knoxville, what will do that???
[09:08] <clearscreen> you dont even want to execute that command, period :P
[09:08] <Ignoramus11> i have another question in regards to gui . which is more stable with current release? gnome or kde
[09:08] <SqueakyNeb> WHAT COMMAND????
[09:08] <knoxville> rm -rf /
[09:08] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: rm -f /
[09:08] <SqueakyNeb> o that
[09:08] <HamidReza> flash worked like a film in firefox
[09:08] <pahom> %)
[09:09] <clearscreen> Ignoramus11: define 'current release'
[09:09] <krishna> knoxville, then why ubuntu allows this dangerous command ? :(
[09:09] <Ignoramus11> kde 4.2 , gnome 2. what ever it is
[09:09] <bluejeans> BlackDalek, open ~/.asoundrc in a text editor and see if there's a line in it pointing to the .asoundrc.asound.conf file... that's what it's tellign you to do
[09:09] <SqueakyNeb> Ignoramus11, I would say gnome because it is the standard gui, but i beleive you can get kubuntu and xubuntu if you want support with ubuntu+KDE/XWindow
[09:09] <HamidReza> help
[09:10] <knoxville> krishna, windows allows it also, "format c: /q /u
[09:10] <Ignoramus11> thanks
[09:10] <clearscreen> krishna: why does life allow you to jump off a bridge.. why does windows allow you to format C:
[09:10] <knoxville> clearscreen...LMFAO!!!!
[09:10] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, To fix problems
[09:10] <bluejeans> HamidReza, sorry but we need more info.....
[09:10] <BlackDalek> bluejeans, I looked at that file and .asoundrc.asoundconf is not mentioned anywhere. I don't know what it wants me to type into the file.
[09:10] <krishna> knoxville, clearscreen, now i understand 100%
[09:10] <bluejeans> HamidReza, have you tried reinstalling flash?
[09:11] <swoody> I need an extremely lightweight browser, but one that can use Firefox add-ons. Any ideas?
[09:11] <ziroday> swoody: you are out of luck
[09:11] <bluejeans> BlackDalek, sorry but i'm not running ubuntu so i can't tell you what its suppose dot look like.. maybe somebody else here can take a look for oyu
[09:12] <clearscreen> swoody: I believe k-meleon could do that, although I could be very wrong too
[09:12] <Ignoramus11> if a program locks, is there a key combination to get access to a command line to run xkill, in gnome
[09:12] <HamidReza> yes
[09:12] <swoody> clearscreen, thx, I'll check it out :)
[09:12] <clearscreen> swoody: nevermind, it doesnt even run on linux
[09:12] <Ignoramus11> whats the key command hamidreza ?
[09:12] <swoody> clearscreen, heh, thx
[09:12] <krishna> how to format a pendrive in ubuntu ?? if i right click . it shows only rescan and unmount ...... how to format ?
[09:12] <jelly12gen> krishna: install gparted
[09:13] <BlackDalek> who'd have thought getting external USB sound cards configured would be so difficult... seems like it is just one problem needs to be solved after another, and never getting any closer to the original problem....
[09:13] <HamidReza> ﻿bluejeans: what you need?
[09:13] <krishna> jelly12gen, i have to install another thing to format a pendrive ??
[09:13] <krishna> jelly12gen, but in windows.. right click and format
[09:13] <jelly12gen> krishna: no , but if you dont want to use the command line
[09:13] <jelly12gen> krishna: but this isnt windows
[09:14] <krishna> ok. tell me how to in cmd line
[09:14] <jelly12gen> !google
[09:14] <jelly12gen> !give
[09:14]  * ViktorVS gives jelly12gen a small bell
[09:15] <jelly12gen> krishna: ever tried this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-format-usb-pen-drive/
[09:15] <krishna> jelly12gen, now, i will ;-)
[09:15] <jelly12gen> krishna: be carefull do you want to use it in windows?
[09:15] <BlackDalek> so much for this so called "quick start" guide.. :( *gives up on it*
[09:15] <tsLight> how can I use aptitude to search for text in packages descriptions, so I can get a list of the packages that match?
[09:15] <lanoxx> whats the name of the image viewer of gnome?
[09:16] <rww> !give me a test
[09:16] <SqueakyNeb> tsLight: run 'apt-cache search lolwut'
[09:16]  * ViktorVS gives rww Elton John
[09:16] <tsLight> SqueakyNeb, thanks
[09:16] <Ignoramus11> i have another question :D. Where can I find media codecs to play/burn.encode/decode audio and video
[09:16] <Phoenix666> hello everybody
[09:17] <Phoenix666> Ignora it is in the repositories
[09:17] <jelly12gen> Ignoramus11: in the ubuntu guide
[09:17] <Phoenix666> gstream
[09:17] <SqueakyNeb> tsLight, I'm not sure if it checks descripts, but try that
[09:17] <jelly12gen> !guide
[09:17] <jelly12gen> !codecs
[09:17] <Ignoramus11> thank you
[09:17] <tsLight> SqueakyNeb, yeah it does, and I can even use a reg ex :)
[09:17] <TechHead> morning
[09:17] <bluejeans> Ignoramus11, medibuntu.org has tins of good stuff for that
[09:18] <rww> ViktorVS: Talking scripts are a violation of #ubuntu's guidelines. Please consider disabling your !give script.
[09:18]  * ViktorVS gives rww a cherry tree
[09:18] <Phoenix666> and then you can use ffmpeg to encode and decode
[09:18] <ziroday> ViktorVS: its /me now :)
[09:19] <HamidReza> ﻿bluejeans: what you need??
[09:20] <lanoxx> what is the unix name of Image Viewer?
[09:20] <knoxville> GIMP
[09:20] <knoxville> sorry that is image editory
[09:20] <rww> lanoxx: eog
[09:20] <rww> lanoxx: stans for "Eye of GNOME"
[09:20] <rww> stands **
[09:20] <lanoxx> rww thx :)
[09:20] <bluejeans> HamidReza, sorry, i don't mean to me a jerk or anything but i'm going to bed now.. tired
[09:21] <hardaez> hi
[09:21] <tt5786> hey all question is there away to restore ubuntu 8.10
[09:22] <HamidReza> by
[09:22] <gartral> real fast, i need to cancel a CD mount.... how
[09:22] <ziroday> gartral: you can't cancel a mount
[09:23] <gartral> you cant kill a dbus command?
[09:23] <ziroday> tt5786: restore?
[09:23] <ziroday> gartral: what on earth are you talking about?
[09:23] <tt5786> yea to last good configration
[09:23] <gartral> my CDROM
[09:23] <tt5786> as there is an error
[09:23] <ziroday> gartral: what do you want to do with it?
[09:23] <gartral> i need to eject it, it isnt rreading the cd i put in it
[09:23] <ziroday> tt5786: whats the error?
[09:23] <tt5786> it wont boot
[09:23] <ziroday> gartral: then press the eject key...
[09:23] <gartral> and its ignoring the button
[09:24] <tt5786> it take me to something called intrefs
[09:24] <ziroday> gartral: then unmount it first
[09:24] <gartral> it ignored sudo eject cdrom
[09:24] <ziroday> tt5786: okay, try an older kernel
[09:24] <ziroday> gartral: unmount it first
[09:24] <gartral> it isnt mounting its stuck
[09:24] <gartral> its not mounted
[09:24] <tt5786> i did that and it did not see my Keyboard and Mouse
[09:24] <ziroday> gartral: then you have to eject it
[09:24] <gartral> its spining at rediculus speeds, and i need to force eject it
[09:25] <gartral> i know that, HOW
[09:25] <ziroday> gartral: there is no force eject. Pressing the eject button or doing sudo eject is all there is. If its serious reboot.
[09:25] <stormchas2000> Gartral  restart
[09:25] <tsLight> how can I know for how long I have been conected to the internet (DSL)?
[09:26] <hardaez> erm..
[09:26] <gartral> i seriously hope theres a force eject in jaunty, i hate bringing down a server
[09:26] <ziroday> gartral: there is no force eject in jauty either.
[09:27] <ziroday> jaunty even.
[09:27] <gartral> there needs to be one somewhere
[09:27] <rww> gartral: grab a paperclip, unbend it, shove it in the little hole on the front of the CD drive.
[09:27] <ziroday> gartral: if your cdrom drive fails to eject upon pressing eject then its a hardware issue. The software can only do what the hardware allows.
[09:28] <gartral> rww: cant, theres no cog hole
[09:28] <ziroday> gartral: AFAIK there is no force eject software anywhere.
[09:28] <gartral> it does help when i dont have k3b open doesnt it... lol
[09:29] <eth01> there is a complex way of ejecting FYI.
[09:29] <eth01> (without the use of "software")
[09:29] <gartral> eth01: how?
[09:29] <tt5786> sorry im back
[09:29] <tt5786> so was there any answer to my questions
[09:29] <eth01> gartral: i haven't even followed your problem. you'll have to explain from the start.
[09:30] <Rabbitbunny> you know, if you pop the cover off, you can get to whatever cd is in there quite easily. it only requires the removal of ~8 screws and voiding up to 2 warranties.
[09:31] <gartral> eth01: i was freaking out cause my cdrom took more than 10 minutes to acknowledge a sudo eject and the cd hadnt even mounted yet...
[09:31] <Rabbitbunny> tt5786: no one has addressed you since you left.
[09:31] <hippos> mmm problematic
[09:31] <eth01> gartral: sounds like a dodgey driver
[09:33] <gartral> Rabbitbunny: yes, except that would require 3 things, 1) take down my server.. bad 2) remove the server from the rack and remove its cover, which i would rather not do, 3) k3b had full controll of the bus, which i killed, and everything went back to normal
[09:33] <gartral> well, the third really isnt a requirment, it was the solution >.>
[09:34] <gartral> on my workstation, how do i make rythmbox NOT come up when i put a audio cd in?\
[09:34] <rubydiamond> guys
[09:35] <rubydiamond> what is the best music player on ubuntu
[09:35] <rww> gartral: Open file browser, Edit > Preferences > Media
[09:35] <tsopp> I like .. Rhythmbox
[09:36] <knoxville> Amarok here!
[09:36] <grawity> votes += Rhythmbox, Banshee
[09:37] <giskard> hello
[09:38] <nmlinuz> help! i can not install ubuntu. It freezes at installation! My pc is new. what's wrong?
[09:38] <JP-sNL> xmms
[09:38] <rww> !best
[09:38] <giskard> how can i make my cpu go to 100% usage? i need to test my fans
[09:38] <tsopp> Compile!
[09:39] <rww> giskard: run "yes > /dev/null" in a terminal. If you have more than one core, run one instance of it per core.
[09:39] <tsopp> Heh.
[09:39] <tt5786> hey all
[09:40] <tt5786> i was wondering if there was a way to restore ubuntu 18.10
[09:40] <tt5786> 8.10
[09:40] <nmlinuz> help! i can not install ubuntu. It freezes at installation! My pc is new. what's wrong?
[09:41] <tt5786> bad media
[09:42] <giskard> thanks rww
[09:42] <RyeCatcher> hey all - in Pidgin, can I block msg from ppl not in my contact list ?
[09:42] <grawity> RyeCatcher: I think it depends on the protocol used (MSN, AIM, ICQ...) but try Tools -> Privacy.
[09:43] <RyeCatcher> Thx grawity
[09:43] <RyeCatcher> Was looking for this settings under Preferences!
[09:43] <Dreamglider> RyeCatcher,  Tools > Privacy > allow only users on buddy list
[09:44] <RyeCatcher> Thx, found it!
[09:49] <giskard> can i ask questions about 9.10 here? or is there another channel for betas?
[09:49] <giskard> sorry, 9.04
[09:49] <m0RrE> #ubuntu+1
[09:49] <m0RrE> for jaunty
[09:50] <giskard> thanks m0RrE
[09:50] <m0RrE> np
[09:50] <Omni> So, I need the package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, but it hasn't been ported to ubuntu
[09:51] <Omni> and I should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:51] <Omni> so, thanks
[09:51] <Dynamic> G'day
[09:51] <m0RrE> australian
[09:51] <m0RrE> ?
[09:51] <m0RrE> :D
[09:51] <Dynamic> Yep
[09:51] <Dynamic> yourself?
[09:51] <m0RrE> morning
[09:51] <m0RrE> finnish
[09:51] <FloodBot2> m0RrE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <Dynamic> Ahh sweet
[09:52] <Dynamic> What time is it in Finland?
[09:52] <m0RrE> 11.52
[09:52] <m0RrE> am
[09:52] <Dynamic> ah sweet
[09:53] <Dynamic> So this is the offical ubuntu support channel?
[09:53] <m0RrE> yep
[09:53] <Dynamic> Does it have a channel to just chill out on?
[09:53] <clancy> hi
[09:53] <m0RrE> i don't think so
[09:53] <clancy> as you know jabber is a opensource protocol
[09:53] <grawity> Dynamic: #ubuntu-offtopic? Or #defocus too.
[09:53] <Dynamic> I see...
[09:53] <Rohit_kgec> can anyone help me with some easy development links for newbies
[09:54] <clancy> is there something like this for email accounts?
[09:54] <JP-sNL> #ubuntu-offtopic idd
[09:54] <m0RrE> nice
[09:54] <grawity> clancy: I think all email uses open protocols ... SMTP, IMAP, POP3. Or did you mean something else
[09:54] <Dynamic> ah thanks
[09:55] <Rohit_kgec> can anyone help me with some easy development links for newbies
[09:55] <clearscreen> !repeat | Rohit_kgec
[09:55] <telemachus> if I mount a drive, is it better to make my user the owner of the mount point, or to create a group and give that group ownership then add the user to the group?
[09:56] <clancy> grawity, googlemail also uses them but you never know what they do else...is there a email service fully opened to see how it works to respect the privacy?
[09:56] <Rohit_kgec> ubottu: ok
[09:56] <Family> hello
[09:56] <JP-sNL> e-mail and privacy?  :-D
[09:57] <grawity> clancy: I don't think so ... nothing can be fully open. But you can run your own mail server if you have the resources.
[09:57] <grawity> clancy: Or you could just try GnuPG ('gpg')
[09:57] <clancy> i wonder what stallman uses... :D
[09:57] <JP-sNL> idd
[09:58] <grawity> clancy: In this world, there usually are two choices: a) trust the service provider, b) run your own.
[10:00] <Senbonzakura> hello can someone help me ?
[10:02] <JP-sNL> Senbonzakura, ask your question... and wait patiently  ;-)\
[10:02] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask
[10:02] <grawity> Okay, a question... In the Ubuntu text-only installer (the "mini" version, if that matters), the status seems to freeze. (Other ttys are working, and I can see the files changing, but tty1 simply doesn't change.) It seems that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace helps a little. Is this just usual Micros~1 Virtual PC flakiness?
[10:03] <Rohit_kgec> can anyone help me with some easy development links for newbies?
[10:03] <drowner> possibly not ubuntu related, but: if i fresh install plain debian, i have a seperate home, will it break everything?
[10:03] <drowner> maybe i will ask #debian
[10:03] <Mike_lifeguard> drowner: no, you can have a separate partition for /home (in fact, I think that's recommended)
[10:03] <Senbonzakura> can anyone help me with setting up network drives on ubuntu ?
[10:03] <Mike_lifeguard> drowner: you mount it, and it Just Works
[10:03] <bazhang> drowner, #debian please
[10:04] <yme> Hi anybody using VMWARE with Ubuntu?
[10:06] <drowner> bazhang: point taken.
[10:09] <yme> Is anybody using virtualisation on Ubuntu?
[10:09] <luklew> Hi
[10:09] <luklew> I have a problem with firefox: http://luklew.dlk.pl/pliki/space.png
[10:09] <spunk> Hello! I'm using 9.04 Beta. Given that I update my installation until 9.04 is released, would I end up with the exact same system as I would if I installed the release version?
[10:09] <tt5786> can any one tell me how to fix ubuntu when it takes you to initramfs
[10:10] <luklew> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
[10:10] <tt5786> im using 8.10
[10:11] <tt5786> any one
[10:11] <swc|666> I have a pkg from hell that refuses to go away.. I've tried about every brute force attempt to remove it that I know of except something that works
[10:11] <Mike_lifeguard> tt5786: Please be patient. If someone can answer your question they will do so.
[10:12] <tt5786> thanks
[10:12] <swc|666> this is what i get http://pastebin.com/m4912c17d
[10:13] <swc|666> problm is it depends on dspam, which will _never_ install correctly out of the box on my amd64 / intrepid install
[10:13] <jessica_> ciao a tutti sono una newbie e non riesco a far andare la webcam
[10:13] <Fabexplosive> jessica_: vai su #ubuntu-it
[10:13] <poing__> how can i start an application from the commandline on a specific workspace?
[10:13] <Fabexplosive> qui non parlano italiano
[10:13] <swc|666> !engrish
[10:14] <Fabexplosive> I've a problem with ubuntu 8.10 running on vmware workstation 6.5
[10:15] <Fabexplosive> when vm is powered, i wait some minutes and ubuntu totally crash
[10:15] <Senbonzakura> anyone know how to setup network drives on ubuntu ?
[10:16] <Fabexplosive> my mouse is freezed etc...
[10:16] <Fabexplosive> anyone know a solution?
[10:16] <swc|666> Intrepid amd64 is probably the buggiest when it comes to packages
[10:17] <Senbonzakura> yes, and can someone help me with setting up network drivs ?
[10:17] <Senbonzakura> drives*
[10:18] <adi1> hi all
[10:18] <Senbonzakura> hi
[10:18] <Senbonzakura> can u help me ?
[10:18] <ianh99> Senbonzakura, Got to Places>Home find the folder, right click and select share...
[10:18] <Senbonzakura> there is nothing in the folder ?
[10:19] <adi1> who is the best app in ubuntu to check multiple gmail accounts?
[10:19] <adi1> i dont mean from inside ff
[10:19] <Kevsan> adi1: Pidgin?
[10:19] <ianh99> Senbonzakura, Just right click on the 'empty' folder from the parent directory
[10:19] <Senbonzakura> ok
[10:20] <Senbonzakura> will that fix the problem ?
[10:20] <Senbonzakura> iv got a serious issue with my pc
[10:20] <adi1> multiple accounts?
[10:20] <grawity> adi1: How about Thunderbird?
[10:20] <HamidReza> hi. my keyboard light's don't turn on
[10:20] <adi1> i have 2
[10:20] <Senbonzakura> iv got dual operating system XP and Ubuntu
[10:20] <ianh99> Senbonzakura, I don't know, what is your problem ?
[10:20] <Senbonzakura> when i share C drive from XP i cant access itnernet
[10:20] <Senbonzakura> on ubuntu
[10:21] <adi1> hahah i just cant understand why people use mail apps like thunderbird or evolution to handle mail account
[10:21] <adi1> web apps will do fine
[10:21] <grawity> adi1: Because they are _mail_ apps.
[10:21] <grawity> adi1: There are many reasons why someone would not want a web-based mail.
[10:21] <HamidReza> please help me
[10:21] <adi1> i cant find one :)
[10:22] <Fabexplosive> anyone help me please?
[10:22] <ianh99> Senbonzakura, Are you saying you can see a shared folder on XP from Ubuntu but accessing it stops the Internet connection ?
[10:22] <HamidReza> my keyboard light's don't turn on
[10:23] <grawity> adi1: 1) Poor internet connection. 2) Privacy. 3) Security. 4) Easier management of multiple accounts. 5) To annoy people like you.
[10:23] <adi1> poor internet connection,,, does not count
[10:23] <grawity> adi1: Not everyone uses Gmail.
[10:23] <Senbonzakura> ianh99 sort of
[10:24] <Senbonzakura> iv got XP and Ubuntu
[10:24] <adi1> privacy... with https nooooo
[10:24] <Senbonzakura> when i Share Xp's C drive i cant go to the internet on Ubuntu
[10:24] <ianh99> Senbonzakura, ok
[10:24] <adi1> easier managment :):):)? than google himself
[10:24] <veloc1ty> lol :>
[10:24] <Senbonzakura> but if i dont share  C drive on XP, i can go to the internet on Ubuntu
[10:24] <adi1> to annoy people like me...? this i can understand
[10:25] <Senbonzakura> i dont know whats going on :P
[10:25] <adi1> :):)
[10:25] <adi1> no worries...:)
[10:25] <grawity> adi1: HTTPS only protects one connection - between your computer and the Google server. The rest is unencrypted. And about multiple accounts - you _just_ asked how to manage two at the same time.
[10:25] <giMb0> Yello.... ! :)
[10:25] <adi1> as long as we see things differently we are ok :)
[10:26] <adi1> yes cause im trying to use epiphany instead of ff
[10:26] <adi1> and in epi does not have a check gmail accounts
[10:27] <veloc1ty> do you really think that google only provides the gmail service because they're so friendly? :s
[10:27] <adi1> so i was thinking of some app of those you install from add/remove or synaptic
[10:27] <Senbonzakura> #far
[10:27] <veloc1ty> https is encrypting the connection between you and the server, but nobody knows what they do with the emails
[10:28] <grawity> adi1, veloc1ty: Also, I invite you to #ubuntu-offtopic .
[10:28] <grawity> (Before an op does it.)
[10:28] <veloc1ty> i'll just shut it ;)
[10:29] <grawity> Good idea too.
[10:29] <adi1> me too
[10:29] <adi1> im going to to try al those gmail checker first :)
[10:30] <adi1> but it would be nice if someone help me install that gmail checker in epiphany
[10:30] <adi1> its all compile an stuff
[10:30] <adi1> ;)
[10:31] <jamieleshaw> What Are You Trying To Do?
[10:31] <adi1> jamileshaw | me?
[10:31] <jamieleshaw> adi1: Yes.
[10:32] <adi1> check my two gmail account from epiphany instead of firefox
[10:32] <jamieleshaw> Okay.
[10:32] <adi1> as long as in epi they dont have yet a gmail app
[10:32] <adi1> im trying to understand if any of those gmail checker is working ok
[10:33] <adi1> so i thought to ask in here :)
[10:33] <HamidReza> i have 2 problem with ubuntu
[10:33] <jamieleshaw> Have a look here my be helpful http://code.google.com/p/epiphany-gmail-notifier/
[10:33] <HamidReza> ????
[10:33] <HamidReza> help me please
[10:34] <adi1> yes i sow this one but i dont know how to install it?
[10:34] <jamieleshaw> Just as ec
[10:34] <jamieleshaw> sec
[10:34] <adi1> ok :)
[10:34] <Sketch_> hello
[10:34] <HamidReza> 1-my printer is hp Deskjet D1560 that hplp dont detect ehis
[10:35] <Sketch_> how do i change the icon used in the gnome menu?
[10:35] <HamidReza> 2- my keyboard light's don't turn on
[10:35] <roel_> why does my firefox keep crashing??
[10:35] <HamidReza> ?????
[10:35] <HamidReza> help
[10:35] <HamidReza> help
[10:35] <HamidReza> please
[10:35] <FloodBot2> HamidReza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask | HamidReza
[10:37] <HamidReza> my keyboard light's don't turn on
[10:37] <Otieno> After installing skype, webcam not working, any help
[10:37] <HamidReza> but worked
[10:39] <stormchas2000> Hamidreza does your keyboard work except the lights
[10:40] <jony123> hi every1 i was wondering if anyone can tell me how to run mono
[10:40] <Brucevdk> Hi, I'm wondering, does anybody organize their Apache sites (/etc/apache/sites-available) in seperate files and directories? For example example.com/foo.example.com. If so, can you show me some examples (particular usage of NameVirtualHost)?
[10:41] <Brucevdk> !mono | jony123: how do you mean run it? You juse do $ mono foo.exe
[10:41] <nasso>  i have a problem with my nvidia drivers that im hoping someone might be able to help me with. i have a setup with three monitors powered by two asus gf6200le pci-e x16 cards. when i start up my computer and the gdm login screen is displayed only two of the screens are activated (getting signals, displaying green leds). once i log in only those two screens are activated, still. If i log out of gnome and return to gdm login screen all thre
[10:41] <nasso> e screens are activated and from there on all three screens are working. does anyone know what might be causing this?
[10:42] <jony123> how do i write aplications for it
[10:42] <jelly12gen> jony123: for what?
[10:43] <Otieno> could anyone help me with my webcam. It has stopped working after installing skype
[10:43] <Brucevdk> jelly12gen: http://mono-project.com/Introduction_to_developing_with_Mono
[10:43] <deany> whats the package that enables autocomplete? its not workin in this UNR install
[10:43] <jelly12gen> bah mono . that 's ugly
[10:43] <Brucevdk> uhm sorry jelly12gen, I meant jony123
[10:43] <jony123> for mono
[10:43] <jelly12gen> Brucevdk: well still use a better prog. language like Haskell , C , java , python
[10:44] <jelly12gen> much better integration etc.
[10:44] <jelly12gen> Otieno: that's inpossible
[10:44] <nasso> jelly12gen, haskell? are you serious? does anyone actually use that for production? :)
[10:44] <jelly12gen> Otieno: did you use your webcam with an other program first?
[10:44] <grawity> jelly12gen: I don't see how Java and Python are "better" than C# .NET
[10:44] <grawity> nasso: I think there's a Perl6 implementation in Haskell.
[10:44] <Otieno> Yess nasso, I used it with cheese
[10:45] <jelly12gen> grawity: because C# mono _. M$ isnt platform independent
[10:45] <Otieno> but today I installed skype and when trying to open cheese, it says no camera
[10:45] <grawity> jelly12gen: Why? It's same as Java.
[10:45] <jelly12gen> java is fully platform independent and python also
[10:45] <nasso> wow. i studied it in a course at university. its very good if you want to learn how to program but didnt think anyone actually used if except for education/research/math
[10:46] <jelly12gen> nasso: haskell?
[10:46] <nasso> jelly12gen, yes
[10:46] <kimws1901> hello~
[10:46] <Brucevdk> grawity: I tend to agree with you, but it's not exactly the same. Sun Microsystems actually works on the open source Java (OpenJDK) itself, Mono is an effort by Novell (and not supported per se by Microsoft)
[10:46] <jelly12gen> Otieno: so i worked for cheese but after installing skype i doesnt work anymore
[10:46] <jelly12gen> Brucevdk: grawity and opensource is a big plus !
[10:46] <Otieno> Yes, jelly12gen
[10:46] <Brucevdk> grawity: so politically it's a little different, technically it really doesn't matter. I think C#/Mono + GTK# is a descent platform for Linux development.
[10:47] <nasso> can anyone point to a big open source project that uses haskell? would love to look at some source
[10:47] <jelly12gen> Otieno: ok , didnt install something else ?
[10:47] <Otieno> not at all
[10:47] <jelly12gen> Otieno: kernel upgrade ?
[10:47] <grawity> Brucevdk: So where's the "ugliness" of them?
[10:47] <jelly12gen> Otieno: please check wich dependencies of skype
[10:47] <Otieno> I have run an upgrade after that and still not helping
[10:47] <Brucevdk> grawity: I'm just pointing out some facts, it wasn't me who said C# was ugly :-)
[10:47] <jelly12gen> aha Otieno did you upgraded something
[10:48] <jelly12gen> *i did say C# is ugly *
[10:48] <Otieno> I just run apt-get update
[10:48] <nasso> no one knows of any project?
[10:48] <jelly12gen> Otieno: well did it upgrade something
[10:48] <mikechelen> !dualboot
[10:48] <jelly12gen> nasso: wich project?
[10:48] <grawity> Anyway, about the other meaning of "ugliness". I have tried to run KeePass on Mono, and it works fine, but looks like crap. Is there anything I can do? (Ubuntu 8.10, Gnome)
[10:49] <mikechelen> !wubi
[10:49] <grawity> jelly12gen: C# looks almost _exactly_ the same as Java.
[10:49] <nasso> jelly12gen, im looking for a big open source project based on haskell
[10:49] <jelly12gen> nasso: xomad !
[10:49] <Otieno> I did that update when it failed to start and still no program detects it. i have tried to reinstall it in vein
[10:49] <jelly12gen> nasso: Xmonad ! ,
[10:49] <Brucevdk> grawity: you know what, I could be doing other things, but I'm interested in this so let me download and run KeePass for a second
[10:50] <jelly12gen> Otieno: and if you remove skype does it work in cheese?
[10:50] <grawity> Brucevdk: Ah, one more thing. It's KeePass v2.
[10:50] <grawity> (KeePass v1 is a native Win app.)
[10:50] <Otieno> I haven't tried that. Let me try, jelly12gen
[10:50] <jelly12gen> nasso: xmonad is the most cool window manager
[10:50] <Brucevdk> grawity: also, have you tried Revelation?
[10:51] <grawity> Brucevdk: No, but it seems like a Linux-only app, and I'm mostly a Windows user. *googles*
[10:52] <jelly12gen> grawity: windows user ?? :)
[10:52] <jelly12gen> :O
[10:52] <grawity> jelly12gen: Yes, so? (If you're interested, it's Win XP Pro, runs just fine, no viruses yet, and so on.)
[10:53] <Otieno> jelly12gen
[10:53] <Otieno> it still doesn't pick
[10:53] <jelly12gen> grawity: well i don't give a shit if you use windows, or mac , or hp-ux of *BSD  , i just use linux because it let me work more efficient
[10:54] <Brucevdk> grawity: ah yes, it does look ugly, I'm assuming it's using WindowsForms
[10:54] <jelly12gen> Otieno: it still doesnt work?
[10:54] <Otieno> yes
[10:54] <Otieno> I mean it doesn't
[10:54] <jelly12gen> Otieno: ok , i am clueless
[10:54] <nasso> jelly12gen, im not very experienced with haskell but its hard to imagine how you could create a window manager with it. when i used it it was all build on recursion. you called one function and it continued running until it was finished. hard to imagine how you could implement a windows manager like that :P
[10:55] <{g}> Hey People! Whats a nice way to show the last lines of a gzipped file?
[10:55] <nasso> apparently its possible ;)
[10:55] <grawity> Brucevdk: I guess so. Is there a way to "fix" it? (Not really a problem, but I do prefer nice interfaces)
[10:55] <jelly12gen> nasso: well they did , have you googled xmonad , you can even do I/O with it
[10:55] <Otieno> anyone there with a clue on this issue? Compatibility of skype and webcam in intrepid
[10:55] <jelly12gen> nasso: i am learning it atm btw fot my study and it's pretty awesome
[10:55] <Brucevdk> grawity: well, no idea, I don't actually use any WinForm applications (just GTK#). Might be something interesting here: http://mono-project.com/WinForms
[10:56] <nasso> jelly12gen, yup. im looking into it now. aint i/o kind of a "hack" that isnt really function/recursion based?
[10:56] <jelly12gen> nasso: i dont know yet :D
[10:56] <grawity> Brucevdk: Hmm, I'll take a look
[10:56] <jelly12gen> nasso: but got to go
[10:56] <jelly12gen> bye
[10:56] <nasso> how can haskell wait for input if its always running, its got to be multi-threaded?
[10:56] <jelly12gen> nasso: wel it can
[10:56] <nasso> jelly12gen, sure. interesting things.
[10:57] <topi> {g}: cat file|tail -<no of rows>?
[10:57] <nasso> jelly12gen, i did i midi sound composer that interpreted musical notes into files. written in haskell :)
[10:57] <jelly12gen> nasso: http://learnyouahaskell.com/input-and-output
[10:57] <jelly12gen> nasso : nice :)
[10:57] <zilleplus> i got ftp running but i only can go on it on LAN adrres 192.168.0.101 i can't do it with my waan ADRRES is this normal ????
[10:57] <zilleplus> i use Gftp
[10:58] <[u]Jinks> zilleplus, yes that's normal
[10:58] <zilleplus> and ubuntu server 8.10
[10:58] <{g}> topi: well, zcat then.
[10:58] <[u]Jinks> zilleplus, you can edit your /etc/hosts file if you like
[10:58] <zilleplus> how do i got it on WAN address
[10:58] <Skyrail> The version of Twisted on the Hardy default repos is outdated by a long shot and I was wondering if there any newer repos that may have the newest version of Twisted on it i.e. instead of 2.5, 8.2, purely because I don't want to build from source,it's easier to keep up to date and I don't want to upgrade to Intrepid
[10:58] <[u]Jinks> zilleplus, edit your /etc/hosts
[10:58] <topi> {g}: oh, yes, ofc :)
[10:58] <nasso> jelly12gen, it was one of the exercises in the course. probably the hardest thing i have every written. you could sit for hours and work on one line. but when you are finished with a haskell program and it works, its friccin beautiful.
[10:58] <Brucevdk> grawity: http://mono-project.com/Gui_Toolkits (WinForms: Looks alien on non-Windows platforms. )
[10:58] <nasso> jelly12gen, wont keep you here. bye
[10:59] <Brucevdk> The whole Look&Feel thing with GUI toolkits has always been a pain in the ass, best example I can think up would probably be Java which initially I think looked alien on all platforms :-)
[10:59] <[u]Jinks> zilleplus, add a line like this 192.168.0.101 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (whatever your wan ip is)
[11:00] <zilleplus> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7b7aa57a
[11:00] <zilleplus> this is my /etc/host
[11:07] <balachmar> #cuda
[11:08] <balachmar> sorry
[11:08] <Skyrail> The twisted framework on the current Hardy repos seems to be outdated by a large margin, I was wondering if there were any newer repos I could add to the sources list in order to get a more updated twisted version?
[11:09] <clancy> is there a ubuntu version with lxde?
[11:09] <balachmar> Skyrail, do you have backports enabled?
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> clancy: check wikipedia for other ubuntu variants as I dont think there is an officially supported one
[11:10] <Skyrail> balachmar: nope, I suppose that would be of help?
[11:10] <clancy> ok, lxde is just times faster then xfce or gnome but not as minimal as fluxbox
[11:10] <clancy> canonical should think about...
[11:10] <Paddy_EIRE> its to tacked together
[11:11] <balachmar> Skyrail: It should those repos should backport newer versions of software to older releases. I don't know for sure if they have backported your package though. But worth a try.
[11:11] <Paddy_EIRE> anyway that would be offtopic clancy
[11:11] <Paddy_EIRE> clancy: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[11:11] <Mike_lifeguard> My laptop seems to be running quite hot - is there a way to adjust fan operation or something?
[11:12] <Skyrail> balachmar: doesn't look like it :/ the package search doesn't show any newer version, intrepid's repo's on the other hand has a much newer version (not quite 8.2, but 8.1 is much closer then 2.5...)
[11:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Mike_lifeguard: well you can use cpu frequency scaling to throttle your cpu
[11:12] <Phee_girl> hai
[11:12] <Kevsan> Mike_lifeguard: fancontrol is a good choice
[11:12] <balachmar> Skyrail, I assume you did update before you checked again right?
[11:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Mike_lifeguard: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-change-cpu-frequency-scaling-in-ubuntu.html
[11:12] <prabha> phee_girl: hai
[11:12] <Brucevdk> Mike_lifeguard: what Paddy_EIRE said, I've also been able to control the fan speed on all my labtops so far
[11:12] <Skyrail> Yeh I updated/upgraded before changing, and did so after changing
[11:12] <Mike_lifeguard> thanks both
[11:13] <balachmar> Skyrail, then you might consider upgrading to intrepid. It has been around for 6 months already :)
[11:14] <prabha> how to compile java in ubuntu?
[11:14] <Skyrail> balachmar: it's a server and Hardy is LTS until 2013, saves me from upgrading in the future (i.e. with Intrepid it's mid 2010 that support finishes)
[11:14] <Skyrail> I'll speak to the owner of the site and see if he's okay with the upgrade and then I'll go ahead with it
[11:14] <Brucevdk> prabha: same way as you would on any other system, install the JDK (openjdk-6-jdk) and use javac (after switching using update-java-alternatives)
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Skyrail: there is nothing wrong with sticking with LTS releases :)
[11:15] <Skyrail> Paddy_EIRE: a certain package that we need is vastly out dated :/
[11:15] <Skyrail> I could build from source but it limits the ease of updating in the future
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm.. Skyrail which package?
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Skyrail: there could be a ppa
[11:15] <Skyrail> The Twisted framework for Python, Hardy has version 2.5, Intrepid 8.1
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !ppa | Skyrail
[11:16] <balachmar> Skyrail, and you could run into dependency problems...
[11:16] <RobotCow> how can i get wget to download this? http://services.netbeans.org/bouncer/index.php?product=netbeans-6.5.1-ml-java&os=linux
[11:16] <prabha> which one is equal to dot net in ubuntu?
[11:17] <Skyrail> Paddy_EIRE: oh, I'll have a look at that, thanks
[11:17] <Skyrail> balachmar: aye, that is another problem so it may just lead to an intrepid upgrade
[11:17] <ninadsp> RobotCow: what is the problem with that llink? does it rediect to something else?
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Skyrail: do you know the name of the package of hand?
[11:18] <RobotCow> ninadsp, error 404, you try it and see
[11:18] <Paddy_EIRE> like "python-twisted" or something like that Skyrail
[11:18] <Skyrail> Yeh, that's it
[11:18] <balachmar> Skyrail, why don't you use this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~fluidinfo/+archive/ppa
[11:18] <Brucevdk> RobotCow: the actual download URL behind it for me is http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/netbeans/6.5.1/bundles/netbeans-6.5.1-ml-java-linux.sh
[11:18] <telemachus> if I have a folder with a listing like this: drwxr-xr-x 3 root mnt_aux  4096 2009-04-11 20:11 share , shouldn't any user that belongs to the 'mnt_aux' group be able to write to the folder?
[11:18] <ninadsp> RobotCow: Error 404 is file not found... it means its a server side error
[11:18] <Paddy_EIRE> balachmar: nice one
[11:19] <Skyrail> Thank you balachmar :D
[11:19] <balachmar> Paddy_EIRE: Thanks!
[11:19] <RobotCow> Bruce, how did you get that?
[11:19] <ninadsp> RobotCow: try the link given by Brucevdk
[11:19] <balachmar> Skyrail, it came from the twisted website :P
[11:19] <Paddy_EIRE> balachmar: what about https://launchpad.net/~esteve/+ppa-packages
[11:19] <Paddy_EIRE> balachmar: ah
[11:19] <Brucevdk> RobotCow: I started downloading it using Firefox and then cancelled it so I could grab the actual URL. But I guess I could have used Wireshark or even LiveHTTPHeaders :-)
[11:19] <prabha> Brucevdk:which one is equal to dotnet in ubuntu?
[11:20] <balachmar> Paddy_EIRE: So I guess the one they link to is the most supported one.
[11:20] <Skyrail> balachmar: oh haha, well thank you, I should research more in the future, I just didn't know where to start as one of the developers sent me an 'urgent' email telling me about the outdated version of the package
[11:20] <telemachus> oh wait, need to do a chmod don't I
[11:20] <ninadsp> prabha: I might be wrong, but mono is used to emulate dot net if i am not wrong
[11:20] <ninadsp> !package mono|prabha
[11:20] <Brucevdk> prabha: uhm, I don't exactly understand what you are asking of me
[11:20] <balachmar> Skyrail, no worries. I like easy fixes :)
[11:20] <Paddy_EIRE> balachmar: yeah I was curious as the other seems to feature a number of extra packages.. possibly too unstable or for testing purposes mainly
[11:21] <ninadsp> prabha: you can search for the description of mono in synaptic...
[11:21] <Brucevdk> RobotCow: actually, wget works fine
[11:21] <Brucevdk> RobotCow: but you have to quote the URL, not sure what character is causing the problem, that's why you were 404ing
[11:22] <Brucevdk> RobotCow: this will work: wget "http://services.netbeans.org/bouncer/index.php?product=netbeans-6.5.1-ml-java&os=linux" and pick the best mirror for you
[11:22] <Brucevdk> I'm assuming the & might have had something to do with it
[11:23] <ninadsp> !package mono-apache-server2 | prabha
[11:23] <RobotCow> Brucevdk, thanks
[11:23] <Brucevdk> RobotCow: np
[11:24] <strombom> do you know any way of modifying the lock screen appearance?
[11:24] <ljsoftnet> i just installed avant window navigator in Add/Remove, clicked on Accessories>Avant window navigator nothing happens, how do i make it run?
[11:24] <vlad> can anybody tek me why there are two users with the same name-tht of the first user account logged in?
[11:25] <penthief> How can I list which daemons are currently running?
[11:25] <vlad> try ps or top
[11:25] <penthief> The equivalent of `service --status-all'
[11:26] <Lanlost> I am sharing internet (via firestarter)   to my desktop as for some  reason it can't connect to my router (too far away)
[11:26] <Lanlost> however, my laptop can.. problem is.. I'm afraid I'm going to kill my LCD in my laptop having it on all the time
[11:26] <Lanlost> but if I shut the lid.. bam. Internet disconnects
[11:26] <penthief> Oh hang on...
[11:26] <Lanlost> from the laptop I mean.. therefore.. no connection to even share
[11:26] <Lanlost> pisses me off because I went to power management and set everything accordingly
[11:26] <FloodBot2> Lanlost: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <tsimpson> depends what you mean by daemon, they are just regular programs running
[11:26] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | Lanlost
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: what is the laptop model?
[11:27] <Lanlost> sorry... im just crazy tired and I wanted to fix this.. it's been driving me crazy. All I have happen when laptop lid is closed.. at all.. is  to turn off the monitor
[11:27] <Lanlost> presario c500
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> sec
[11:27] <penthief> Well I'm used to using chkconfig to stop services running at boot, but I'm not sure what to use on Ubuntu.
[11:28] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: does it go in standby when you close the lid?
[11:28] <Lanlost> how would that matter? not trying to be a dick, literally just curious as I have all power management off.. no shutdown of drives or hibernation or suspend.. all of that is disabled
[11:28] <vlad> penthief:view the man pages for ps and top commands
[11:28] <Lanlost> it .. shouldn't.. I turned that off in power management
[11:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: have you read this http://www.1-script.com/forums/Increasing-Wireless-range-on-Presario-C500-article46223--25.htm
[11:28] <penthief> vlad: That won't help me disabling services.
[11:28] <Lanlost> uh.. what?
[11:28] <Lanlost> the wireless range is great
[11:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: seems your antenna is under the lid
[11:28] <Lanlost> no...
[11:28] <Skyrail> Thank you both Paddy_EIRE and balachmar, it's worked and updated. let's just hope the developer(s) are happy with it :)
[11:29] <Lanlost> that may be the case.. the wireless range problem I am having is on the desktop
[11:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Skyrail: happy days and no probs
[11:29] <Lanlost> my laptop is getting a perfect connection.. even if the lid is 99% closed
[11:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: how about just telling it to turn the display off and not activate any screensaver?
[11:29] <Lanlost> That IS what I have it set to
[11:30] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[11:30] <ninadsp> pentheif: there are a few gui tools which let you control the stop/start of services... did you search throu synaptic? try 'sysv init style' as a string
[11:30] <Lanlost> that's what I said.. I turned off all power management options and turned it to turning off the monitor when the lid is closed... no screensaver or anything else is activated.. including hibernate, suspend, turning off the hard drives, screensaver
[11:30] <BrixSat> hello
[11:30] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: so you are sure it's not going into standby?
[11:30] <ljsoftnet>  i just installed avant window navigator in Add/Remove, i clicked on Accessories>Avant window navigator nothing happens, how do i make it open?
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: the person on that forum said that he had  the same problem until he switched to another WiFi channel
[11:31] <jonathan__> hello!
[11:31] <kn100> whats the ubuntu 9.04 channel?
[11:31] <Lanlost> I've tried that..
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: that might help
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> :9
[11:31] <veloc1ty> #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <BrixSat> how can i make my ubuntu server connject to the net using pppoe and then share the internet over my network?
[11:31] <kn100> thanks veloc1ty
[11:31] <ninadsp> kn100: #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <Lanlost> It's not a problem with the wifi connection
[11:31] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: the only thing I can think up of right now is that some script is getting executed when closing the lid, There's a whole bunch somewhere in /etc
[11:31] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: an ACPI event might actually be firing
[11:31] <BrixSat> kn100 this one!
[11:32] <Lanlost> thats more along the lines of what I was thinking Brucevd, thanks (the first comment)
[11:32] <jonathan__> i've two parts of a audio book. Both parts are in m4b format and contains bookmarks for the chapters. I would like to put these two files together to one big file without loosing the position of the bookmarks... Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[11:32] <jonathan__> thanks in advance :)
[11:32] <vlad> come on people why are there two users with the same name logged in,what is number 2 for
[11:32] <ninadsp> vlad: you might be logged in from a terminal too... did you check that?
[11:32] <Lanlost> a laptop isn't going to have itshorty OWN code somewhere to go into standby is it? As in... it should be determined by the OS, right?
[11:33] <vlad> yes I am using a terminal too
[11:33] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: just wondering what happens when you do /etc/init.d/acpid stop and then close the lid?
[11:33] <Lanlost> itshorty? How did I manage that instead of 'its'.. oh, tab auto completion
[11:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Brucevdk: good poin
[11:33] <Paddy_EIRE> *point
[11:33] <ninadsp> vlad: then that will show up as another login :)
[11:33] <penthief> ninadsp: Thanks. Anything command line? I feels wrong to fiddle with the /etc/rcN.d dirs
[11:34] <tunnuz> Hello
[11:34] <vlad> this is what i get 12:14:21 up  1:49,  2 users,  load average: 0.44, 1.11, 1.07
[11:34] <vlad> USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
[11:34] <vlad> vlad     tty7     :0               10:26    1:49   4:57m  0.16s x-session-manag
[11:34] <vlad> vlad     pts/0    :0.0             12:09    0.00s  0.10s  0.00s w
[11:34] <FloodBot2> vlad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <ninadsp> penthief: the recommeneded way is update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d ..... check out their man pages.. :)
[11:34] <vlad> ok
[11:34] <ninadsp> vlad: pts/0 is the terminal login, :0 is your gui login
[11:34] <penthief> ninadsp: Perfect. I had not heard of those before.
[11:35] <Lanlost> we will see if I get disconnected here in a sec
[11:35] <Lanlost> (I am on the desktop)
[11:35] <Lanlost> am I here?
[11:35] <ninadsp> penthief: ga ahead and try... they'll do your work :)
[11:35] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: you're still here yes
[11:35] <banktoy> semarang
[11:35] <Lanlost> weird.. I actually got disconnected ( couldn't ping any site )
[11:35] <vlad> thank you
[11:36] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: and to answer your other question, I think it might actually be possible for some ACPI things to behave differently depending on the model. And maybe it's even possible for there to be some firmware somewhere doing something.
[11:36] <vlad> is there a tutorial about users and accounts
[11:36] <tunnuz> Hello, I'm trying to setup a backup system with rsync on my Ubuntu Server, but my rsync doesn't seem to load the rsyncd.conf. I guess that's because there's already a default rsync configuration on the Ubuntu Server distro, but I can't find the configuration files. Can you help me?
[11:36] <Lanlost> and turned it back on... and it didn't reconnect to freenode.. I had a ping running that once i shut the lid immediately did 'destination unavailable'
[11:36] <ninadsp> vlad: none that i know.. did you check the ubuntu wiki?
[11:36] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: so wait, the problem still occurs?
[11:36] <Lanlost> as soon as I saw that i opened the lid again and it turned back on.. must have just not been disconnected long enough.. doens't make sense how it would stay connected to IRC any other way
[11:37] <Lanlost> brucevdk, yeah
[11:37] <vlad> I will thanks
[11:37] <ninadsp> vlad: np! :)
[11:37] <buds> hello
[11:37] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: probably because for IRC you have to time out, some packets get lost but oh well.
[11:37] <buds> anyone could give some help?
[11:37] <Lanlost> I stopped acpi .. shut my lid.. and immediately IMMEDIATELY the pings stopped making it to google.. I open the lid, they immediately start again
[11:37] <buds> i having a prob after resizing the partition
[11:37] <buds> :(
[11:37] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: I'm wondering if this is an issue with Firestarter (or actually what it uses to share the connection)
[11:37] <Lanlost> brucevdk, right.. it just seems that usually any packet loss meant disconnection it seemed
[11:38] <kn100> budz?
[11:38] <buds> i cannot load into my current OS
[11:38] <buds> kn100
[11:38] <kn100> your current os?
[11:38] <buds> yes
[11:38] <ninadsp> buds: do you know how to re install grub?
[11:38] <buds> doing partition using Gparted
[11:38] <Lanlost> brucevdk, nope because the wifi itself disconnects
[11:38] <buds> no
[11:38] <kn100> making partitions seems to screw up grub
[11:38] <buds> im tryn to boot into vista
[11:38] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: so wait, you close the lid and wifi disconnects?
[11:38] <kn100> i have to go
[11:38] <kn100> cya
[11:39] <ninadsp> buds: what os is not booting? windows o linux?
[11:39] <buds> win
[11:39] <Lanlost> yeah... it doesn't fall out of range or anything though
[11:39] <buds> using Gparted to install ubuntu
[11:39] <buds> after resize
[11:39] <vlad> does anybody know of a way to open .lit files in linux
[11:39] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: this just sounds way too weird
[11:39] <Lanlost> I had a script that would list any available networks looping
[11:39] <ninadsp> buds: ohh.. then i don't know if reintalling grub is the right way...
[11:39] <ninadsp> buds: pls wait around and ask someone who'd know
[11:39] <buds> any suggestion?
[11:39] <Lanlost> and it still listed mine at full strength.. or near it (never under 90%)
[11:39] <buds> ok
[11:40] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: ok well, silly suggestion, but can't you just turn the LCD display off?
[11:40] <Lanlost> brucevdk, It does this on my girlfriends laptop too (ubuntu newest)
[11:40] <ninadsp> buds: one thing i would try would be to restore windows mbr first, then re install grb
[11:40] <Lanlost> it does the same thing
[11:40] <Lanlost> even screensaver does it
[11:40] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: it doesn't do it on mine, X61t
[11:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: sounds to me a simple solution would be to get a wifi card or dongle for your tower :P
[11:40] <vlad> does anybody know a good ip scanner similar to languard
[11:40] <ninadsp> *grub
[11:40] <Lanlost> well I'm sharing to my roommates as well
[11:40] <Lanlost> neither of them can hit the router either
[11:41] <Lanlost> even if I connect directly to the router with the laptop via eth it does it when I Close the lid
[11:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: perhaps they too should buy wifi cards or dongles :P
[11:41] <Paddy_EIRE> *better
[11:41] <ninadsp> vlad: tried nmap? or are you looking for a sniffer?
[11:41] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/359199 -- the only bug report I could find
[11:42] <MaT-dg> I noticed that when I select firefox in the window list, the compiz cube rotates to the face where firefox has started and not the face where firefox currently is
[11:42] <O_EDI> Hi, what is the opimal java package to install in ubuntu 8.10 : from sun or from OpenJDK?
[11:42] <Lanlost> wow bruce, thanks.. I couldn't find one at all.. strangely since that seems like the obvious string you would search for .. heh
[11:42] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: OpenJDK
[11:43] <bakarat> is there a lot of software for the ubuntu arm port?
[11:43] <vlad> i've herd of it it can scan  a range of ips as well right
[11:44] <Lanlost> anyway, I just wrote an SDL simple app to just draw a fullscreen black screen and turned down the monitor brightness as far as possible
[11:44] <Lanlost> anything think that won't save the life at all?
[11:44] <ninadsp> vlad: yes :) one of the best scanners i've seen to date
[11:44] <O_EDI> Brucevdk is there any configuration i should do in order to set the environment and keep OpenOffice running with OpenJDK?
[11:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: not using it :)
[11:44] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: I'm not sure if drawing black matters all that much :-) But I honestly don't know
[11:44] <vlad> I don't need a sniffer,what is the equivalent command to ipconfig /all and ipcofig /flushdns
[11:45] <penthief> Hmmmm. Could someone with the bash-completion package installed try the following as root: 'update-rc.d <TAB>' Do you get an error?
[11:45] <Lanlost> I though the problem was that LCDs have limited life specifically by color...
[11:45] <Lanlost> for instance, I had a friend whos blue completely went out
[11:45] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-openjdk and possibly the Java configuration bit in OOo itself
[11:45] <ninadsp> vlad: sorry. i dont know that... try ifconfig for the /all....... for flushdns try googling around...
[11:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: that is just the way it goes.. nothing lasts forever
[11:46] <vlad> thanks
[11:46] <ninadsp> np
[11:46] <Lanlost> right.. well if i draw black then that's going ot be a hell of a lot better than having a full desktop displaying at all times, even if the monitor brightness is down. I would think at least
[11:47] <dayo> how do i implement quotas in ubuntu?
[11:47] <tabbar> you have to install windows to do that
[11:47] <Lanlost> same thing as the blank screensaver without it disconnecting me
[11:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: heh.. just using the blank screensaver would have been much easier
[11:47] <dayo> !quota > dayo
[11:47] <ninadsp> !package quota | dayo
[11:47] <Paddy_EIRE> sounds a little like overkill
[11:47] <dayo> !quotas > dayo
[11:47] <dayo> hmm
[11:47] <mrwes> !quota
[11:48] <mrwes> !coffee
[11:48] <ninadsp> dayo: there is a package named quota... is that what you are searching for?
[11:48] <mrwes> heh
[11:48] <vlad> bye
[11:48] <dayo> ninadsp: i want to enforce quotas for the users on my server
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: laptops are typically like disposable cameras anyway.. they are just not as robust as a desktop.. or a good thinkpad for that matter
[11:49] <Brucevdk> Lanlost: I'm going to work on some other things, but good luck :-)
[11:50] <microsoft-hitman> ok
[11:50] <microsoft-hitman> everyone format your hard drives\
[11:50] <microsoft-hitman> its all over
[11:50] <bazhang> microsoft-hitman, stop that
[11:51] <Lanlost> thank you, Brucevdk and everyone else who helped (Paddy_FIRE and co.) .. I'll let you know later, tomorrow or next time I bump into you
[11:51] <microsoft-hitman> you phucks at ubuntu are taking away our market dominance
[11:51]  * fat_rat thinks it's time for ban/kick ;]
[11:52] <Lanlost> let you know what happened I mean.. thanks
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Lanlost: sorry I could not be more help
[11:52] <mrwes> ouch....IP even
[11:54] <babio> hi guys i have this proble..... i have firstcommand  -o option1 -t option2 and secondcommand -t option1 -l option2 and i want that the option2 of the secondcommand is the output  of "firstcommand  -o option1 -t option2" ... how can i do that?????
[11:54] <Lanlost> trust me, the fact that someone responded... and not only that but responded quickly, stayed with me during the tests AND wasn't a dick goes a long way
[11:54] <Lanlost> so thanks, I'll keep you updated.. see ya
[11:54] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[11:56] <penthief> babio:  I think you want this: secondcommand -t  option1 -l $(firstcommand  -o option1 -t option2)
[11:57] <babio> penthief: perhaps.....i'll check it out....
[11:57] <yinlong> who knows how to use kdebluetooth?
[11:57] <toggomusic-xchat> hi :D
[11:58] <babio> penthief: yesssssssssssssssssss it works!!!! awesomw!!!! thank you very much
[11:58] <ninadsp> yinlong: you might get better help o #kubuntu for kde related apps...
[11:58] <toggomusic-xchat> Compiz Fusion is awesome :D
[11:58] <toggomusic-xchat> but i need help with my wireless card
[11:59] <hamax> yinlong: or on #kde :D
[11:59] <yinlong> hamax,what is "#kde :D"
[12:00] <hamax> irc channel
[12:00] <ninadsp> yinlong #kde and #kubuntu are channels on irc just like #ubuntu.. kde users wil be found there
[12:01] <yinlong> so,i can ask what is kdebluetooth4 directly?
[12:02] <yinlong> what is kdebluetooth4?
[12:02] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I figure out what my chipset is?
[12:02] <O_EDI> Brucevdk: i am trying to set the java configuration for OpenOffice, but it doesn't take the configuration from /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/jre
[12:03] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, quick question, what is better for external hard disk, ext 2 or ext 3??
[12:03] <ssd> how i can copy something to other directory ? (via console ?)
[12:03] <hamax> cp
[12:03] <ninadsp> tried the cp command?
[12:03] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: I've got it set in Tools -> Options -> Java, how do you know it doesn't work for you?
[12:04] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: oh wait, default-java, yeah well I'm not sure how that would work
[12:04] <ssd> how it works ?
[12:04] <O_EDI> it says it doesn have any runtime environment
[12:04] <ninadsp> ssd: for more help on cp, check he manpage... man cp
[12:04] <fat_rat> or install mc ;]
[12:04] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: works for me
[12:04] <zgmf-x20a> wow so no one has made an external hard disk before here
[12:04] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: what openjdk packages did you install?
[12:04] <zgmf-x20a> interesting
[12:04] <Dentex> haii
[12:04] <zgmf-x20a> highly unlikely, but intersting
[12:05] <Dentex> nice tome
[12:05] <Brucevdk> zgmf-x20a: are you complaining that people aren't responding fast enough to your inqueries?
[12:05] <fluitfries> Brucevdk: i think he is.
[12:05] <zgmf-x20a> Brucevdk: hahaha.  no not at all
[12:05] <ssd> zgmf-x20a: you want install ubuntu on your external hdd ?
[12:06] <bazhang> zgmf-x20a, use ext3
[12:06] <zgmf-x20a> ssd no no, just make a new external hd for data backup purposes
[12:06] <ssd> zgmf-x20a: ex3
[12:06] <bazhang> zgmf-x20a, shared with windows?
[12:06] <hamax> use fat16 :)
[12:06] <zgmf-x20a> bazhang: no, no windows, i dont like windows
[12:06] <Brucevdk> hamax: didn't you get the memo? FAT is out the door :-)
[12:06] <bazhang> zgmf-x20a, then ext3
[12:07] <O_EDI> Brucevdk: if i use the /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/ i have same trouble. Sshould i install all the OpenJDK packages available? or is it that i'm looking at the jre directory?
[12:07] <MaT-dg> hamax: boycot FAT if possible ;)
[12:07] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: you need the JRE, the location for me is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre
[12:07] <hamax> i was joking :D
[12:07] <zgmf-x20a> bazhang: ok, ext 3, but just out of curiousity, why is it better than ext 2?  what is the benefit of the jounaling?
[12:08] <O_EDI> openjdk-6-jre,openjdk-6-jre-headless and openjdk-6-lib
[12:08] <zgmf-x20a> bazhang: also, the large majority of the files are 650mb - 1.2 GB
[12:08] <O_EDI> Brucevdk: openjdk-6-jre,openjdk-6-jre-headless and openjdk-6-lib
[12:08] <Ignoramus01> hello, I am having some audio problems. Just installed 8.10. Is there anyone who could assist? ( i cant get mp3s or movies to reliably play audio. )
[12:09] <bazhang> Ignoramus01, got the codecs all installed?
[12:09] <Ignoramus01> yes
[12:09] <bazhang> Ignoramus01, including from medibuntu?
[12:09] <Ignoramus01> hmm that one possibly not
[12:09] <bazhang> Ignoramus01, you may want the win32codecs then from there
[12:10] <Ignoramus01> thanks
[12:10] <ssd> medibuntu rox
[12:11] <sphenxes01> what is the program in linux that works like dreamweaver?
[12:11] <kn100> sphenxes01 get dreamweaver 8, it installs in wine fine
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> sphenxes01: well kompozer is very good
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> sphenxes01: other than that use gedit :P
[12:11] <kn100> is there any way to bypass the ubuntu logon screen, so it boots straight into gnome?
[12:12] <sphenxes01> thanks
[12:12] <grawity> kn100: You could configure it to login automatically.
[12:12] <Paddy_EIRE> kn100: sys>admin>login
[12:12] <kn100> THanks paddy_EIRE and grawity
[12:13] <kn100> done, thanks guys, im so glad im off microsoft
[12:13] <htrejh> hi
[12:13] <hamax> gedit is one great piece of software :) i just love external tools :)
[12:14] <Ignoramus01> bazhang, i installed medibuntu, same problem
[12:14] <ion_> I remember there was a way to list missing (that is, not installed) packages that are recommended by packages that are installed. What was it?
[12:14] <bazhang> Ignoramus01, which files
[12:15] <Ignoramus01> i installed the 8.10 distro package
[12:16] <O_EDI> Brucejdk: thanks, i have the /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre.
[12:17] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: great
[12:18] <O_EDI> Brucevdk: is there any other config needed, such as parameters or class path for the OO's java configuration?
[12:18] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: for the basic functionalit, no
[12:19] <ion_> Ah, found it. Aptitude’s curses UI, Views / Audit Recommendations
[12:19] <kn100> Is WINE legal?
[12:19] <hamax> yes
[12:20] <Hassanakevazir> as legal as stallman himself
[12:20] <fluitfries> does Ubuntu have a terminal command like Mac OS X's ditto?
[12:22] <kn100> fluitfries what does ditto do
[12:23] <fluitfries> kn100: its like rsync/cp sort of thing, highly robust copy utility.
[12:23] <O_EDI> Brucevdk: afterthat configuration, is it usual that opened PPTs in OO don't reproduce the sound in a continuous way? what causes it?
[12:23] <mib_6d7y2lyr> I recently rebooted my ubuntu laptop after installing updates, and everything in the wireless connection thing is gone, only auto-eth remains, how can I revert the updates or something to fix it?
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> fluitfries: then why not just use rsync?
[12:24] <Brucevdk> O_EDI: not sure, I'm a little busy so I can't help you much sorry :-)
[12:24] <fluitfries> Paddy_EIRE: i guess i will, if there's no ditto.  :/
[12:24] <O_EDI> Brucevdk, thatk you for your help :)
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> fluitfries: must it be CLI?
[12:25] <fluitfries> Paddy_EIRE: aye.
[12:25] <etfb> Any time I resume from suspend/hibernate and try to watch a video, my video driver crashes and I have to reboot.  What can I do?
[12:25] <Guest22057> Kill yourself?
[12:25] <Guest22057> nah jk
[12:26] <mib_6d7y2lyr> I recently rebooted my ubuntu laptop after installing updates, and everything in the wireless connection thing is gone, only auto-eth remains, how can I revert the updates or something to fix it?#
[12:26] <etfb> Guest22057: Actually, that's not a bad idea...
[12:26]  * etfb stabs himself in the eye with an icepick.  Sadly it doesn't fix his video driver.
[12:26]  * etfb rises again on the third day, now seriously irritated at his bloody laptop.
[12:26] <Kangarooo> after updates if something is wrong how can i revert system to like 5min bewfore update?
[12:26] <Guest22057> fixing a video driver eh? try putting a mouse in there - that fixes most things
[12:26] <retty> i m trying to install ubuntu with wubi but when I reboot to it boots right in to windows. i think it s about boot.ini file but i don't have ant boot file in c:? i confused. does anybody have this problem?
[12:27] <kn100> LOL at Guest22057
[12:27] <Paddy_EIRE> fluitfries: sorry but rsync seems to be your best option really.. although ditto does sound nice
[12:27] <Guest22057> or, stick a knife into the disc drive
[12:27] <Rakol> Rakol
[12:27] <kn100> LOL at Rakol
[12:28] <etfb> Guest22057: I know you're trying to help (thinks to himself: no I don't) but I'm unlikely to take advice on technical matters from someone who can't even figure out NickServ...
[12:28] <Rakol> what does it mean when it asks me to Identify my nickname - what do i actually have to do?
[12:28] <Paddy_EIRE> !register
[12:28] <Rakol> !register Rakol
[12:28] <fluitfries> Paddy_EIRE: oh it's real nice.  ;)  thanks for the help.
[12:28] <Rakol> I iz confuzzed...
[12:28] <Kangarooo> retty you have 2 hard drives  thnk and u installed ubuntu in second and boot file in last installation window with name advanced button there you can change to put boot file to ide0 (hard drive C)
[12:29] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Should I be worried, soembody just randomly PMed my and started asking for my email/
[12:29] <Raylz> system->settings->audio
[12:29] <Paddy_EIRE> mib_6d7y2lyr: tell an op
[12:29] <Rakol> it's a pedophile, call the cops immediately
[12:29] <Raylz> which package do i need so i can access system->settings->audio ?
[12:29] <babio> hi guys i have a big problem....i made a script that send a simple text mail and i have put it into init.d to automatically execute it when linus start.....but when the computer turns on it say to me an error and the mail wasn't sent.....i think that is becouse of when the script execute the lan is not turn on........what i have to do to fix it?????? please help me
[12:29] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Dentex	by the way...your email!please
[12:30] <kn100> LOL Rakol thats funny
[12:30] <s_Even> hello
[12:30] <Raylz> babio: you have to have a dependency on the networking service
[12:30] <Rakol> sup wigger
[12:30] <Raylz> babio: take a look at upstart
[12:30] <Raylz> !upstart
[12:30] <retty> Kangarooo, could explain more what to do?
[12:31] <idefine> since upgrading to 9.04 from 8.10 my raid configuration is no longer detected and i come up to and initramfs boot, any ideas?
[12:31] <idefine> /dev/md3 can't be found
[12:31] <Kangarooo> retty: u have 2 hard drives right?
[12:31] <hamax> babio: try to put it in rc.6 dir
[12:31] <babio> but i need to run the script without login into ubuntu....can i do that with upstart????
[12:31] <retty> Kangarooo , yes i want to install on E
[12:32] <babio> hamax: i have to put in the rc.6 dir instead of init.d?????
[12:32] <Hassanakevazir> idefine, #ubuntu+1
[12:32] <grawity> babio: Yes. And use less ?s.
[12:32] <mib_6d7y2lyr> I recently rebooted my ubuntu laptop after installing updates, and everything in the wireless connection thing is gone, only auto-eth remains, how can I revert the updates or something to fix it?#
[12:33] <Aperculum> when I attach a usb-stick, I'm getting "write protected filesystem" error
[12:33] <hamax> babio: put symbolic link to file in init.d
[12:33] <Kangarooo> retty: if now in bios youll change primary drive to the one where u installed then it will start.. But best sollution is install again and in last step nr 7 there where ubuntu installation asks is everything correct there is button Advanced and there change the place of boot file to C disk.. ;)
[12:33] <Aperculum> althouth the stick works on the other computer
[12:33] <adac> Can someone tell me how I can force an init.d script to start up earlier than the other ones?
[12:33] <sliverchair> wget http://img06.nj.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/644/001.1/compressed/*.jpg
[12:33] <sliverchair> how do I make that work?
[12:33] <hamax> you cant :D
[12:33] <babio> sorry....so i have to put in the init.d a link to a script resides in the rc6.d directory?
[12:34] <hamax> you can try :)
[12:34] <Paddy_EIRE> sliverchair: try forming a better question.
[12:34] <babio> u think it should works???
[12:34] <Kangarooo> can anyone help mib_6d7y2lyr ? I also want to know (02:32:59 PM) mib_6d7y2lyr: I recently rebooted my ubuntu laptop after installing updates, and everything in the wireless connection thing is gone, only auto-eth remains, how can I revert the updates or something to fix it?#
[12:35] <sliverchair> Paddy_EIRE: i need to get all the images from a directory
[12:35] <Paddy_EIRE> sliverchair: type man wget
[12:35] <hamax> babio: it should, but your script will run when you log in
[12:35] <Aperculum> nevermind, reattach fixed it o.O
[12:35] <fluitfries> is the -z option for rsync worth using?
[12:35] <lyhana> why does phpmyadmin is stuck to v2.11 except for jaunty
[12:35] <babio> humax: i don't need it
[12:36] <fluitfries> i am transferring via usb 2.0
[12:36] <babio> i need to run the script without login
[12:36] <jrib> !sru | lyhana
[12:37] <Kangarooo> lyhana: i think that maybe some programms if are not working with previus kernel then they will not update kernel but just tell u that it wont work but if youll update system to meet the latest needs then it will allow u to install latest programm
[12:37] <idefine> Hassanakevazir: ?
[12:37] <hamax> babio: in that case, i have no idea :D
[12:38] <Kangarooo> does anyone know how can i revert latest updates?
[12:38] <Raylz> which package do i need so i can access system->settings->audio ?
[12:39] <Hassanakevazir> idefine, yes?
[12:39] <idefine> Hassanakevazir: any ideas? besides #ubuntu+1 ?
[12:40] <Hassanakevazir> nah :/ never had raid here and i'm still on 8.10. i donnu, check out to see if there are any bug reports on this ?
[12:41] <Hassanakevazir> if it is supposed to be auto detected
[12:41] <Paddy_EIRE> idefine: you will not get support for beta releases here
[12:41] <Kangarooo> how to revert to previus installed system like 10min ago. how can i revert latest updates? in cases like when i dont know or dont remember what i installed and synaptic has no history about that couse i installed or used apt-get update with terminal.. (in that case history is not available in synaptic)
[12:41] <Paddy_EIRE> full stop
[12:41] <lyhana> jrib: don't get it. I thought that hardy was a LTS
[12:42] <Kangarooo> lyhana: LTS means 18 months
[12:42] <idefine> Paddy_EIRE: well...it's not really a beta issue, i think it's just an upgrade issue....
[12:42] <sliverchair> Paddy_EIRE: thanks, I also found lots in google hehe
[12:42] <mib_6d7y2lyr> I recently rebooted my ubuntu laptop after installing updates, and everything in the wireless connection thing is gone, only auto-eth remains, how can I revert the updates or something to fix it?#
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> idefine: irrelevant.. you are using jaunty which is beta and for any questions involving that use #ubuntu+1
[12:43] <lyhana> Kangarooo: ok
[12:43] <Kangarooo> can anyone help mib_6d7y2lyrti get solution to problem?
[12:43] <idefine> Paddy_EIRE: ah, alright, thanks.
[12:43] <Kangarooo> lyhana: and LTS name travels with time :)
[12:43] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, your wireless works fine right?
[12:44] <Kangarooo> i like mib_6d7y2lyr wants to know how to revert to system befor last update?
[12:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Kangarooo: you cannot.. unless you know which packages updated.
[12:44] <lyhana> Kangarooo: ok. So I want to define the blowfish of phpmyadmin but not sure which file i should edit
[12:44] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, just the connections and keys you have entered are gone, or the whole wireless stopped working?
[12:45] <mib_6d7y2lyr> My wireless was fine until I reboote
[12:45] <mib_6d7y2lyr> All the connections are gone
[12:45] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Nothing is listed
[12:45] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Doesn't even scan
[12:45] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Previous keys ect. are still there
[12:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | mib_6d7y2lyr
[12:45] <paul68> mib_6d7y2lyr: just wait a little it was taking a few moment for me to when i did the update of my kernel
[12:46] <mib_6d7y2lyr> I've been waitng 2 days.
[12:46] <Paddy_EIRE> !patience | mib_6d7y2lyr
[12:46]  * rgl waves
[12:46] <armadill0> Hi, I have a problem with passwordless ssh.  After following the identical procedure on both machines, it works from my local machine to the remote machine, but not the other way around.  That is, it always asks for a password connecting from remote to local despite having the pub key in authorized_hosts.  I'm running out of ideas to find the problem, ideas?  thanks!
[12:46] <Kangarooo> Paddy_EIRE: thrue synaptic when i install programms then yes couse synaptic has history// But if i make in terminal apt-get update or for example if i upgrade to next version or different version thrue terminal then i dont have no History... of installation.. so maybe there is some command to revert last apt-get command ?
[12:46] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, if you right click on the NetworkManage icon, what do you see, is wireless connection listed?
[12:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Kangarooo: no..
[12:47] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Nope its not there
[12:49] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, run this in terminal : lspci | grep Wireless
[12:49] <armadill0> I should add both machines are ubuntu.
[12:49] <Kangarooo> lyhana: no i down know that.. ask again or in #php ?
[12:49] <mib_6d7y2lyr> That just told me about my wireless adapter
[12:49] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, also try : lspci | grep Network controller
[12:50] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, woops also try : lspci | grep Network
[12:50] <Kangarooo> lyhana:  ok ? :) hope there u can solve this problem :)
[12:50] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Network gives blank, but wireless tells be about the atheros card
[12:51] <lyhana> Kangarooo: thanks :)
[12:51] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, copy paste the line here
[12:51] <Kangarooo> peace out im restarting xubuntu 9.04 update :)
[12:51] <mib_6d7y2lyr> AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[12:51] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Atheros Communications Inc.
[12:52] <Dynamic> Hey, I may just ask here
[12:52] <Dynamic> but does anyone know of any free open source projects that may need sponsoring?
[12:53] <rgl> I'm trying to setup tightvncserver to run in background;  I can access to my desktop and all.  but for some reason my normal desktop theme is not used;   if I try to change it, it changes briefly, but soon, it reverts back to a plain-old gtk theme.  any idea how to troubleshoot/fix this?
[12:53] <lyhana> Dynamic: AJAX-Browser
[12:53] <Dynamic> Thanks Lyhana
[12:54] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, google that see what it comes up with.
[12:55] <mib_6d7y2lyr> Google just tells me more abouti t
[12:55] <spunch> *sign*
[12:56] <Hassanakevazir> mib_6d7y2lyr, here, i got this : it seems the third replay knows what he is talking about , but I really don't got the time to google around more on this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/64517
[12:57] <mib_b404r8> mornin
[12:58] <logox> hi
[12:58] <logox> I'm using Ubuntu. My microphone does not work.
[12:58] <logox> What should I do?
[12:58] <mib_b404r8> idk
[12:59] <emma> logox: don't give up.
[12:59] <mib_b404r8> i got here a minute before u
[12:59] <emma> logox: one of the fun things about linux is when you get problems, you can learn a lot in the quest for a solution.
[12:59] <Hassanakevazir> scream in agony :/ there is sooooo many sound problems
[12:59] <mib_6d7y2lyr> arse
[12:59] <logox> can be justified, but did not reach the solution.
[13:00] <emma> logox: which ubuntu are you using? which release?
[13:00] <logox> intrepid ibex
[13:00] <emma> what is your computer? Is it a laptop? What brand?
[13:01] <logox> acer aspire 5104wlmi
[13:01] <Arsenio>  	/msg SILVER|DUMP|01 XDCC SEND #100
[13:01] <logox> I'm using laptop
[13:01] <whax> hi
[13:01] <Arsenio>  	/msg SILVER|DUMP|01 XDCC SEND #100
[13:01] <jrib> Arsenio: stop
[13:01] <whax> why ?
[13:04] <logox> I'm here and waiting.
[13:05] <prabha> how to link head phone to ubuntu
[13:05] <djiin> How can I add resolutions to xrandr?
[13:05] <osmfe> hi
[13:05] <jrib> !fixres | djiin
[13:05] <osmfe> how can i loook cpu details
[13:05] <jrib> osmfe: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:06] <idefine> is it possible to determine what devices are in a raid array from the mdadm.conf file?
[13:06] <SliderMan> how do i reconfigure xserver?
[13:07] <prabha> pls give solution... how to connect microphone in ubuntu
[13:07] <jrib> !xconfig | SliderMan
[13:07] <emma> logox: System->Preferences->Sound->Sound Capture is set to "HDA Intel ALC268 Analog(ALSA)" not "ALSA"
[13:07] <emma> logox: check that.
[13:08] <whax> hi
[13:08] <whax> emma how are you ?
[13:09] <prabha> emma:pls give solution... how to connect microphone in ubuntu
[13:10] <emma> logox: hmmm, from what I have found, there seems to be a bug with the internal microphone on the aspire laptops in Ubuntu Intrepid
[13:10] <Art_Emius> Hi! I have 2 computers in my network. On of it runs winXP, other runs Ubuntu. There is a shared folder on win computer. I need to synchronize a folder on ubuntu comp with windows shared folder. What should i use to do it?
[13:11] <cnwesleywang> after upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10,my sound card just does not working.I means everything seems fine just no sound,can anybody help me?
[13:12] <lfaraone> What's the command to power off a display? (ie when it turns off automatically after a set time)
[13:12] <SliderMan> how come reconfgiuring xserver wont auto detect my graphics driver?
[13:13] <asg|nb> lfaraone: xset
[13:13] <ailean> can someone aid me in getting my graphics card working?  do i just install fglrx-amdcccle?
[13:13] <lfaraone> asg|nb: thanks.
[13:13] <pimpa> salve a tutti
[13:13] <prabha> can any one help me
[13:13] <osmfe> how can i look my system using how percent of cpu
[13:13] <emma> whax: i'm good
[13:13] <ljsoftnet> prabha what seems to be the problem
[13:14] <prabha> how to link head phone to ubuntu
[13:14] <prabha> how to link head phone to ubuntu ljsoftnet
[13:14] <osmfe>  how can i look my system using how percent of cpu
[13:14] <prabha> ljsoftnet:how to link head phone to ubuntu
[13:14] <ljsoftnet> prabha do u know were your headphone jack is?
[13:15] <jrib> osmfe: system -> administration -> system monitor
[13:15] <cnwesleywang> ubuntu 9.04 lastest version,thinkpad T60, no sound. anybody help me?
[13:15] <ljsoftnet> prabha the most common place for it is in the CPU tower
[13:15] <jrib> !jaunty | cnwesleywang
[13:16] <xrayy7224> cnwesleywang, i might be able to help join #megworld
[13:16] <kosty> help
[13:16] <prabha> ya i plug it but it's not working
[13:16] <prabha> ljsoftnet:ya i plug it but it's not working
[13:16] <xrayy7224> kosty with what ?
[13:17] <tv7497> guys have a problem vbox is not working when i run any of os it gives me error like this http:// 122.167.83.125
[13:17] <kosty> i want to now how i can execute a prog.?
[13:17] <ljsoftnet> prabha go to System>Preferrences>Sound and look if ubuntu detects an audio device?
[13:17] <tv7497> guys have a problem vbox is not working when i run any of os it gives me error like this http://122.167.83.125
[13:17] <jrib> kosty: be more specific
[13:18] <jrib> tv7497: huh?
[13:18] <kosty> i cant execute all program in ubuntu! im new!
[13:18] <kosty> please!
[13:18] <jrib> kosty: on the top left, you have an "applications" menu.  Click on it, then click on the icon for the application you want to execute
[13:18] <ljsoftnet> kosty did you mount a drive for an OS installer?
[13:19] <kosty> no!
[13:19] <tv7497> jrib: i cant  run my windows if i try to run it it shows the error some thing like in the screen shot the screen shot has been posted in my server sir
[13:19] <SliderMan> how do i force ubuntu to check for new hardware?
[13:19] <kosty> but i dont see the darddrive extern!
[13:20] <prabha> ljsoftnet:microphone can't detect what i do
[13:20] <ljsoftnet> kosty insert an OS installer in your optical drive, run vbox go to Device>Mount and mount the optical drive
[13:20] <jrib> tv7497: I see no screenshot
[13:20] <kosty> thanks man!
[13:20] <jrib> SliderMan: like what?
[13:20] <tv7497> jrib: sorry now you can :)
[13:20] <mcBreeezy> anyone know a ipod touch hack channel
[13:21] <SliderMan> jrib, its a webcam, it worked before. not it wont
[13:21] <SliderMan> i tried to replug it but that wont do
[13:21] <mcBreeezy> anyone for an ipod channel?
[13:21] <ljsoftnet> kosty no problem
[13:21] <ljsoftnet> prabha wait
[13:22] <antibody> can anyone help me to configure the fingerprint login?
[13:22] <antibody> 1st the device only works in root
[13:23] <antibody> 2nd how can I use gnome 2.26 integration?
[13:23] <ljsoftnet> prabha do you have the volume applet, connected to gnome panel?
[13:24] <prabha> ljsoftnet:no
[13:24] <prabha> ljsoftnet:how to install
[13:25] <ljsoftnet> prabha rigth click on a blank space in the gnome panel, and click on "Add Panel" and add the volume applet search for it
[13:25] <antibody> !fingerprint
[13:26] <prabha> i have only volume control. how to i get volume applet
[13:26] <prabha> ljsoftnet:i have only volume control. how to i get volume applet
[13:27] <ljsoftnet> prabha that's ok, click on "Volume Control" and Click on Add
[13:28] <ljsoftnet> prabha did you add the applet
[13:28] <antibody> !fprintd
[13:29] <prabha> ljsoftnet:the microphone not detected
[13:29] <ljsoftnet> prabha that's ok
[13:30] <ljsoftnet> prabha right click on the volume applet and click on "Open Volume Control"
[13:31] <prabha> ljsoftnet:in volume control which device i select
[13:31] <ljsoftnet> prabha is your sound card integrated to your motherboard or is it a card?
[13:33] <prabha> ljsoftnet:it's intergrated on it. but in windows i installed the realtek software for sound management. so headphone is working proper in windows.  in ubuntu what i do
[13:34] <antibody> ljsoftnet, it's a realtek snd-hda-intel device?
[13:34] <ljsoftnet> prabha is it in the device combo box?
[13:34] <antibody> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[13:34] <antibody> this one has sound for me
[13:34] <msd> hey folks i got a werid error in 9.04
[13:35] <antibody> I just can't set the microphone working
[13:35] <msd> I mounted an smb file shar on my server
[13:35] <msd> but as soon as i get to the 3rd layer of a dir
[13:35] <msd> it says the link does not exist
[13:35] <msd> it maps out al dirs just fine
[13:35] <ljsoftnet> prabha if you find any realtek word in the device list click on it
[13:36] <msd> I click by artist -> letter B -> BB.King [ERROR]
[13:36] <msd> The link ............... is broken because its target ........ does not exist
[13:36] <msd> i access it trough a windows machine there is no problem
[13:36] <msd> any suggestions?
[13:36] <platius> msd;  9.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[13:37] <msd> ouch
[13:39] <thingles> Hello -- simple question. The Ubuntu Cacti package is at 0.8.7b and current is 0.8.7d. Is there harm in doing the upgrade manually? Should I remove the package first? I'm not sure what the recommended approach is.
[13:40] <pc004> cuitz
[13:40] <prabha> ljsoftnet:i want to run both speaker and headphone in ubuntu how?
[13:40] <ljsoftnet> thingles uninstall it first mark it for complete removal and then install the latest version for it
[13:40] <tabarnackle> hey unbunters
[13:41] <ljsoftnet> prabha i don't know how to do that
[13:41] <tabarnackle> just giving this a test for the classroom lessons when the opportunitys there
[13:41] <ljsoftnet> tabarnackle nice work
[13:41] <thingles> thanks ljsoftnet
[13:41] <indos256> ce-imutz
[13:41] <dual> I still can't register at CCAN. 24 hours since I bought the game now.
[13:42] <pro-rsoft> when I plug in a headphone into my laptop, the internal speakers switch off. Is there a way I can use both at the same time?
[13:42] <msd> a question in general than
[13:42] <ljsoftnet> dual what does CCAN mean?
[13:42] <dual> CCAN.de?
[13:42] <tabarnackle> unbuntu friggin rules! i can run so many things it makes me feel like a geek
[13:42] <msd> does ubuntu 8.10 handle symlinked smb shares ?
[13:42] <xanophanthrope> hi
[13:42] <tabarnackle> and i dont even know a thing haha
[13:43] <dual> Oh, sorry, ljsoftnet: Wrong channel
[13:43] <ljsoftnet> dual ok
[13:43] <xanophanthrope> i'm quite new to ubuntu and i have a question that searchig havent been able to answer
[13:43] <ljsoftnet> xanophanthrope what is it
[13:44] <xanophanthrope> well i`ve been trying iwconfig + dhclient to conect to my ap but nothing seems to work
[13:45] <tabarnackle> does xchat gnome save your previousley visited channels on the left columm?
[13:45] <warn333> anyone got any suggestions for dual monitor performance?
[13:45] <warn333> seems to be quite sluggish
[13:45] <xanophanthrope> i keep getting somthing that ends with sleeping etc
[13:45] <revmoo> hi, is there any good reason for 8.10 to be dumping me out of sudeors once or twice a week?
[13:46] <revmoo> this keeps fucking happening
[13:46] <logox> I am using the laptop and dual monitors not be a problem with.
[13:46] <warn333> well im running 2 24 inch at 1920x1200 each off a 9800gtx
[13:46] <warn333> which i know is capable of handling that resolution twice
[13:46] <jrib> revmoo: be more specific
[13:46] <revmoo> my user loses sudo access
[13:46] <warn333> playing videos on one screen slows the other one down a lot and makes the video jutter
[13:46] <revmoo> sudoers file remains unchanged
[13:47] <revmoo> this happens once or twice a week now
[13:47] <jrib> revmoo: well what groups is your user in?
[13:47] <jrib> !enter | revmoo
[13:47] <revmoo> wtf?
[13:47] <jaggz-> is ubuntu going to be so nice if I stick with KDE?
[13:48] <jaggz-> I use ubuntu hoary hedgehog on this system, but since then went with debian for years, and now I'm going to update this ubuntu hoary system and I'm trying to pick between the two
[13:50] <Xcell> U get the best of both
[13:52] <raphael_> bonjour tous le monde
[13:52] <bazhang> !fr | raphael_
[13:52] <warn333> any suggestions for increasin the performance of xinerama
[13:52] <raphael_> ok dsl je ne saviez pas
[13:53] <djiin> how do I find out what <output> use on xrandr --output <output>?
[13:54] <jrib> djiin: xrandr lists outputs
[13:55] <aprilhare> problem: whenever i am running a full-screen game, i have this problem where the desktop 'flashes' on screen. it interferes in keyboard/mouse functions and makes games sometimes unplayable. i'm running intrepid amd64.
[13:55] <djiin> Is it in this?
[13:55] <djiin> Screen 0: minimum 512 x 384, current 1440 x 900, maximum 1440 x 900
[13:56] <aprilhare> djiin: was that question addressed to me?
[13:56] <djiin> aprilhare, sorry. its for jrib
[13:57] <jrib> djiin: it's the word before "connected"
[13:58] <mrwes> Can cp be used across an ssh connection or is scp required?
[13:58] <wisdom206> #dna
[13:58] <jrib> mrwes: scp
[13:58] <mrwes> jrib, yah I've mastered scp -- very neat tool -- I was just wondering if cp would be faster since it's not encrypted
[13:59] <jrib> mrwes: erm, that doesn't really make sense right?
[13:59] <djiin> jrib,
[13:59] <mrwes> jrib, weird how scp outputs a progress meter, but we can't get that with cp ?
[13:59] <djiin> Thanks
[13:59] <jrib> mrwes: rsync :)
[13:59] <tunnuz> Hello, has someone here any experience with rsync on ubuntu server?
[13:59] <mrwes> jrib, yah been playing with rsync too
[14:00] <mrwes> jrib, faster?
[14:00] <jrib> !ask | tunnuz
[14:00] <warn333> anyone find xinerama slow?
[14:00] <jrib> mrwes: no idea
[14:02] <tunnuz> Ok, I'm trying to put on a backup system for my home server (Ubuntu Server 8.04). I created my own configuration file /etc/rsyncd.conf but it looks like Ubuntu has already a rsync configuration somewhere, because the instructions of my configuration file are ignored.
[14:02] <mib_6d7y2lyr> bigblackdick
[14:02] <mrwes> tunnuz, why not just run rsync from a cron ?
[14:03] <tunnuz> so, in my rsyncd.conf I have "auth users = a_user_name" but I can access with every username of the system
[14:03] <cyptrix> Hi
[14:03] <tunnuz> mrwes, I'm trying to make it scalable, so that if someday I want to backup something from another location I can do it via the home server.
[14:04] <TLF> hello
[14:04] <TLF> it's possible to change from debian to ubuntu?
[14:04] <cyptrix> I can't boot Intrepid 2.6.27.* after update, 9.04 live dvd works though :(
[14:04] <Brucevdk> tunnuz: might want to look at /etc/default/rsync
[14:04] <ironfroggy_> I am having trouble with my wifi card using the default drivers, so i tried ndiswrapper on the drivers from the cd. at that point i have no wlan interfaces at all.
[14:04] <cyptrix> have to fall back to non 2.6.27 kernel for it to boot at all
[14:04] <cyptrix> it does a kernel oops
[14:04] <cyptrix> here's screenshot: http://joeb454.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022723
[14:05] <tlm2024> are there any easy to follow instructions to get wine to work in 8.10 ?
[14:05] <jrib> !wine | tlm2024
[14:06] <Brucevdk> tunnuz: actually, that doesn't actually make much sense, rsyncd.conf is supposed to work. Sorry, no experience with rsync here.
[14:06] <tunnuz> Brucevdk, I already did. I quote:"RSYNC_CONFIG_FILE=/etc/rsyncd.conf", so apparently rsync is loading my configuration file.
[14:06] <lfaraone> Hi, I have USB speakers that are occasionally plugged into my computer. When I plug them in, I have to go to System>Settings>Sound to tell Ubuntu to use them rather than "automatic". How can I have the switchover happen, er... automatically?
[14:06] <Brucevdk> tunnuz: did you restart the daemon?
[14:06] <tunnuz> yes
[14:06] <Brucevdk> tunnuz: pastebin the config?
[14:06] <tunnuz> my config?
[14:06] <Brucevdk> tunnuz: yes
[14:07] <afm_> nickserv identify afm_
[14:07] <matamou> how come my wireless card (and driver, I suppose) got disabled /disappeared after reboot??
[14:07] <tunnuz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/148874/
[14:07] <tunnuz> this is rsyncd.conf
[14:08] <beer1> Hello can anyone help me restore grub after vista install? I did http://paste.ubuntu.com/148873/ .. am I doing something wrong? :/
[14:08] <tunnuz> this is the /etc/default/rsync
[14:08] <tunnuz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/148875/
[14:08] <warn333> should I put my 8800gt in to run my 2nd monitor?
[14:08] <xrand> hi there, did ever encounter a x64 linux elf virus ?
[14:08] <xrand> hi there, did ever encounter a x64 linux elf virus ?
[14:08] <lfaraone> beer1: and does it not work on reboot?
[14:09] <lfaraone> xrand: you'll have to be more spesific.
[14:09] <erUSUL> beer1: i do not see any error on the pastebin? what makes you think it did not worked?
[14:09] <beer1> erUSUL: after I reboot it boots to vista, grub isn't working -.-
[14:10] <erUSUL> beer1: oops
[14:10] <xrand> lfaraone: I'm just wondering
[14:10] <tunnuz> Brucevdk, di it
[14:10] <lfaraone> xrand: ok, then no, I have not seen one but as with any arch it would be trivial to write.
[14:10] <tunnuz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/148874/
[14:10] <tunnuz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/148875/
[14:10] <UnknownFear> Cool, just installed an IRC on my iPod Touch and it works :)
[14:10] <xrand> lfaraone: thanks :)
[14:11] <ziroday> UnknownFear: great, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:11] <erUSUL> beer1: why you used (hd0,1)
[14:11] <ubuntu> hello. Where can i ask for trouble with booting my computer?
[14:11] <erUSUL> beer1: why you used (hd1,0) and not (hd0,1)
[14:11] <erUSUL> ?
[14:12] <beer1> erUSUL: cuz ubuntu is on sdb1 so I think it's (hd1,0) ?
[14:12] <ziroday> ubuntu: right here.
[14:12] <lfaraone> xrand: np.
[14:12] <ziroday> beer1: yes, sdb1 is (hd1,0)
[14:12] <lfaraone> beer1: try it the other way and see what happens.
[14:12] <beer1> already tried
[14:12] <beer1> same thing :(
[14:13] <beer1> also if I remove the boot flag from vista partition, after I reboot it says operating system is missing :/
[14:13] <ubuntu> thanks
[14:13] <ziroday> beer1: whats the error, your /boot/grub/menu.lst and sudo fdisk -l in pastebin please
[14:13] <Kimi> i need a donload manager that should add links in a Queue and download them *one by one*
[14:14] <psychomantis> hey guys
[14:14] <psychomantis> i need it too
[14:14] <ziroday> Kimi: gwget?
[14:14] <psychomantis> kimi
[14:14] <Kimi> psychomantis,  ?
[14:14] <lfaraone> beer1: because the windows boot loader uses the boot flag for stuff
[14:14] <Kimi> ziroday, gwget doesnt seem to have a queue option
[14:14] <psychomantis> a download manager
[14:14] <Kimi> psychomantis, yes
[14:14] <ziroday> Kimi: psychomantis there are plenty of download managers in the repo. Install some and take a look
[14:14] <clearscreen> Kimi: if you mean for Firefox: "Down Them All", you can set concurrent downloads to 1
[14:14] <beer1> ziroday: error is grub isn't working at all it just boots to vista, http://paste.ubuntu.com/148879/
[14:15] <Kimi> clearscreen, I want to add different downloads and make it do ONE BY ONE automatticallly ...... like in IDM of windows
[14:15] <warn333> anyway to stop a video going sluggish on my 2nd monitor?
[14:15] <clearscreen> Kimi: if its just for http/ftp, you can use firefox addon called down them all
[14:15] <Kimi> clearscreen, i have it .... but i dont know how to add queues .... do you undersatnd ????
[14:16] <ziroday> beer1: and your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[14:16] <warn333> ok try again - anyway to stop a video running on vlc going sluggish when I say, browse the internet on my 2nd monitor?
[14:16] <psychomantis> i wanna know if we can dowload links from mégaupload with a shell ? could we do that ? if yes, how ??
[14:16] <ziroday> warn333: turn of compiz, get a second/better graphics card?
[14:16] <psychomantis> please
[14:16] <warn333> running a 9800gtx+ ;\
[14:16] <ziroday> psychomantis: you can try use wget or curl
[14:16] <clearscreen> Kimi: whenever you download it's automatically added to the queue, you just need to configure it to download just 1 file at the same time.. it's somewhere in the settings
[14:16] <mm2000> hello dudues. I have a question. I have one laptop and one server. The server is old and has no os in it. I have no screen with the server. How can i install ubuntu on the server? Thank you. Very much.
[14:16] <ziroday> warn333: then get a second card
[14:16] <psychomantis> i have nerver used that
[14:16] <psychomantis> explain me please
[14:16] <Kimi> clearscreen, ok .. i understand now
[14:16] <ziroday> !install
[14:17] <warn333> ive got a 8800gt, is it worth putting that in and running the 2nd screen off that?
[14:17] <ziroday> mm2000 ^^
[14:17] <ziroday> warn333: yes
[14:17] <Kimi> clearscreen, thanks.
[14:17] <Kimi> bye
[14:17] <warn333> ok well this shud be fun
[14:17] <Mercidia> hi there, has anyone ever used the uinput linux driver for custom drivers?
[14:18] <ziroday> beer1: and compiz is installed?
[14:18] <mm2000> ziroday, sorry I dont understan your suggestion. I have been working with linux for 10 years. But I dont know how to do tis.
[14:18] <beer1> ziroday: why does it matteer if grubs isn't working at all.. anyway http://paste.ubuntu.com/148881/
[14:18] <beer1> ziroday: wtf does compiz has to do with it? :/
[14:18] <psychomantis> c+url ????????
[14:18] <psychomantis> ziroday
[14:18] <ziroday> beer1: sorry, does the grub menu appear on bootup?
[14:18] <ziroday> psychomantis: man curl
[14:18] <beer1> ziroday: no, it just boots to vista automatically
[14:19] <psychomantis> No manual entry for curl
[14:19] <msd> how can i get symbolic links browsable by my ubuntu desktop?
[14:19] <msd> on a debian server...?
[14:19] <ziroday> mm2000: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation it explains how to do it without a screen
[14:19] <djiin> I dunno if I'm doing this right : xrandr --newmode "640x480_75.00"   30.75  640 664 728 816  480 483 487 504 -hsync +vsync
[14:19] <Ubuntu> hi I want to ask a technical question about emulations
[14:19] <Ubuntu> someone who is not so bussy and can help me
[14:20] <fat_rat> !ask | Ubuntu
[14:20] <ziroday> beer1: okay, grub isn't installed in the right place. You have to reinstall it
[14:20] <psychomantis> please
[14:20] <beer1> ziroday: well where should I install it? ;s
[14:20] <mm2000> ziroday, hmm, ty, but i cant find the link where to look. :(
[14:21] <asmcadusr> hi everybody i have installed my ati driver from web site but it's extension is ".run"  how can i install it?
[14:21] <ziroday> mm2000: are you reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[14:21] <ziroday> asmcadusr: you don't.
[14:21] <beer1> ziroday: find /boot/grub/stage1 shows hd0,1 and hd1,0 .. I tried both none worked
[14:21] <mm2000> ziroday, I cant even ssh into the machine
[14:21] <[u]Jinks> asmcadusr are you talking about the ati driver from the ati site
[14:21] <ziroday> beer1: try install it to (hd0,0)
[14:21] <asmcadusr> [u]Jinks , yes
[14:21] <ziroday> mm2000: why not?
[14:22] <fat_rat> psychomantis: http://curl.haxx.se/docs/
[14:22] <[u]Jinks> you might want to try #ati - i just know from experience a lot can go wrong installing that way
[14:22] <beer1> ziroday: hd0,0 is swap
[14:22] <asmcadusr> i want to just my screen resolution is more small
[14:22] <psychomantis> i have no sound in my hp 6830s laptop
[14:22] <mm2000> ziroday, Its kind of empty I think.. Well, its an old ubuntu machone.
[14:22] <psychomantis> need help
[14:22] <psychomantis> i use only
[14:22] <psychomantis> my headphones
[14:22] <bazhang> !enter | psychomantis
[14:22] <ziroday> beer1: try anyway, install grub to hd(0,0)
[14:23] <beer1> ziroday: k I'll try now thanks =]
[14:23] <Shhhh> :O
[14:23] <Shhhh> Howz everbody doing?
[14:23] <mm2000> ziroday, Do you know if there is a way to connect my laptop screen to the server?
[14:23] <fat_rat> psychomantis: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[14:23] <ziroday> asmcadusr: stop. Go to System > Admin > Hardware Drivers and install the drivers from there
[14:23] <asmcadusr> [u]Jinks , what can do?
[14:24] <[u]Jinks> have you tried the driver in the repository?
[14:24] <eax> Hi there :) I'm trying to find a program for a mate that will automaticly change his background every so often, anyone know a good way to do this?
[14:24] <[u]Jinks> i mean if you're determined to use the fglrx driver from ati that's fine but it can be problematic
[14:24] <ziroday> mm2000: no, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[14:24] <Shhhh> eax:  i know of one fir windows lol
[14:24] <[u]Jinks> a .run if you're using GUI change the permissions and allow execute and run it
[14:25] <beer1> ziroday: Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[14:25] <eax> Shhh; Fair, doesn't help him though ;)
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:25] <ziroday> eax: err desktop drapes or wallpapoz, but they are both buggy and hacks
[14:25] <[u]Jinks> but just be aware you're opening a big can of worms doing it like that
[14:25] <ziroday> beer1: not sure, sorry
[14:25] <eax> ziroday: Hmm okay, thanks :) Will look into it
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> is there a document detailing the differences between the desktop and server kernels at all?
[14:25] <beer1> ziroday: ok thanks anyway =[
[14:25] <mm2000> ziroday, hehe, but I cannot ssh into the machine.
[14:26] <ianh99> mm2000, I think you need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[14:26] <[u]Jinks> asmcadusr, if you run into problems you might get better advice in #ati - i gotta run good luck
[14:26] <ianh99> mm2000, Basically the headless client boots from your desktop then runs the installation using your screen
[14:26] <asmcadusr> [u]Jinks , ok thanks
[14:27] <Ubuntu> Please someone who knows about PCSX2 emulation.
[14:29] <devilz> hi, how do i install apache with 64 bit support?
[14:29] <kondora> hello everybody, I need help with iptables, does anybody can help me?
[14:29] <bakarat> i'm having a soundcard issue: the card has worked great in ubuntu for a while now, but two days ago, when i came home from work, sound was not working at all, i had to reboot to get it back, just now, amarok died while playing music, i started it up again, played again for a while, then the sound halted (stuttering repeat of short section of sound constantly), even when amarok was turned off, it kept going on, had to reboot again
[14:29] <devilz> is there an apache 64bit package?
[14:29] <bakarat> how can i find out what's wrong?
[14:29] <jrib> djiin: install it using synaptic... if you are using 64bit ubuntu, apache will be 64bit...
[14:29] <fat_rat> psychomantis: what laptop?
[14:29] <ouinl> how can i delete folder which locked ?
[14:29] <psychomantis> hp 6830s
[14:29] <ouinl> how can i delete folder which locked ?
[14:29] <jrib> ouinl: what folder?
[14:30] <fat_rat> psychomantis: ok wait a sec
[14:30] <psychomantis> 17"
[14:30] <ouinl> a folder in .wine
[14:30] <jrib> ouinl: use sudo
[14:30] <ouinl> its world of warcraft
[14:30] <ouinl> he doesnt work
[14:30] <fat_rat> psychomantis: what distro do you use?
[14:30] <jrib> ouinl: pastebin what you tried that did not work
[14:31] <psychomantis> ubuntu 8.10
[14:31] <psychomantis> the latest
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ouinl: you can check its not in use with lsof and make sure your pwd is not within the folder or it will lock it
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> psychomantis: whats your issue
[14:32] <ouinl> he is not use , but he is locked :'(
[14:32] <psychomantis> i can only use my headphones
[14:32] <psychomantis> with my hp 6830s laptop
[14:32] <psychomantis> no speakers
[14:32] <fat_rat> psychomantis: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/HP-Compaq+6730S (use google luke)
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> psychomantis: fyi, jaunty is newer, just not officially released
[14:32] <psychomantis> i know released in few days
[14:32] <jrib> ouinl: use sudo to delete the folder
[14:33] <jrib> ouinl: use « gksudo nautilus », delete the folder, then close that instance of nautilus
[14:33] <djiin> I'm trying to add 640x480 resolution to my xrandr with: $ xrandr --newmode xrandr --newmode "640x480_75.00"   30.75  640 664 728 816  480 483 487 504 -hsync +vsync ; and then when I do: $ xrandr --addmode default 640x480 it says that it cannot find mode. How can I add this resolution properly?
[14:34] <matt___> Is there a way to check the status of a cd tray? example, type command, it tells you if it is opened or closed
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> psychomantis: ok so you have no sound, what is the output of lspci | grep -i audio
[14:34] <slupz> ciao a tutti
[14:34] <fat_rat> psychomantis: i know, just try it ok?
[14:34] <psychomantis> wait i will show you that
[14:34] <psychomantis> ok
[14:34] <psychomantis> ok
[14:34] <Shhhh> i have had to install 8.10 on my pc 3 times now, and everytime after installing i had to run Sudo apt-get remove compiz and compiz-core
[14:34] <ouinl> jrib : with gksudo nautilus i find folder .wine but there is not world of warcraft and without nautilus there is ........
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> !info compiz
[14:34] <adub> what is a command to list filesystem type
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Shhhh: shouldnt do, its optional
[14:35] <Shhhh> Before it allowed me to log in. it would allways just freeze :(
[14:35] <psychomantis> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[14:35] <Shhhh> ActionParsnip:  nope.. not optional for me.. Froze up onlogin
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Shhhh: weird
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !ich
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !hda
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !find intel
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> theres a factoid for those intel soundcards
[14:37] <DieseL`> cd ..
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !intelhda
[14:37] <DieseL`> opps
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> bam!
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> psychomantis: ^
[14:38] <Xcell> lol bam!
[14:39] <psychomantis> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[14:39] <jaggz-> thanks
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> !intelhda | psychomantis
[14:39] <aaa> hello
[14:39] <jrib> ouinl: show me using pastebin.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[14:40] <tabarnackle> trying to get usb troubleshooted in virtualbox. take a look at the last post here ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7053054#post7053054
[14:40] <tabarnackle> sorry im a noob
[14:40] <ouinl> jrib ?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: whats the output of sudo fdisk -l
[14:40] <jrib> ouinl: "and without nautilus there is".  Show me
[14:40] <jrib> !paste | ouinl
[14:41] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, are guys recommending installing pastebinit ?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: i always recommend it
[14:41] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, can't get any easier than that :)
[14:41] <tabarnackle> Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[14:41] <tabarnackle> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[14:41] <tabarnackle> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[14:41] <tabarnackle> Disk identifier: 0xbbae1898
[14:41] <tabarnackle>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[14:41] <FloodBot2> tabarnackle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <tabarnackle> /dev/sda1   *           1       18705   150247881   83  Linux
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: use pastebin please
[14:42] <mrwes> heh....duh
[14:42] <tabarnackle> do you need the link?
[14:42] <mrwes> tabarnackle, to read it, yes
[14:42] <tabarnackle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/148894/
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: is your usb stick 4Gb?
[14:43] <tabarnackle> yeap
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: its picked up then
[14:43] <mm2000> zicho, Ty. I just attaced an new drive a the server. How can I find that=
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: so your usb is working
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: in the vbox
[14:44] <tabarnackle> its a sandisk cruzer i have no idea why i cant load it in virtualbox windows XP
[14:44] <zicho> mm2000, what
[14:44] <tabarnackle> uuuum
[14:44] <mrwes> tabarnackle, did you install guest additions?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: have you installed the guest additions
[14:44] <mrwes> :P
[14:44] <tabarnackle> yeap
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> snips
[14:44] <mrwes> heh
[14:44] <mourad> non pas encore
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: is the usb enabled in the config of the vbox?
[14:44] <tabarnackle> yeap
[14:44] <mm2000> zicho, sorry, that was for ziroday
[14:45] <mm2000> ziroday, , Ty. I just attaced an new drive a the server. How can I find that=
[14:45] <zicho> ah okay, no harm done
[14:45] <mm2000> zicho, No, no harme done! :)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: is the user a member of vboxusers
[14:45] <tabarnackle> explain
[14:46] <mrwes> bingo!
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024202
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: can you pastebin the output of the command: groups
[14:46] <mourad> azul flawen
[14:47] <mourad> what is new for ocamlgraphe
[14:47] <tabarnackle> david adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[14:47] <tabarnackle> whoops sorry
[14:47] <brainac0cult> hello
[14:47] <tabarnackle> i pasted when i should have copied haha
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: its ok, its small
[14:47] <brainac0cult> wheres the compiz channel
[14:47] <tabarnackle> let me read through that link you gave me
[14:47] <tabarnackle> brb
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: you are not a member of the group you need to be in
[14:48] <brainac0cult> !ubottu
[14:48] <tabarnackle> ok how can i fix it??
[14:48] <brainac0cult> !ubuntu
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: sudo adduser $USER vboxusers
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> tabarnackle: that command will fix the grouping
[14:48] <djiin> I'm trying to add 640x480 resolution to my xrandr with: $ xrandr --newmode xrandr --newmode "640x480_75.00"   30.75  640 664 728 816  480 483 487 504 -hsync +vsync ; and then when I do: $ xrandr --addmode default 640x480 it says that it cannot find mode. How can I add this resolution properly?
[14:49] <tabarnackle> done
[14:49] <brainac0cult> anyone
[14:49] <brainac0cult> please
[14:49] <jelly12gen> brainac0cult: what is the question?>
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> !comppiz | brainac0cult
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | brainac0cult
[14:49] <tabarnackle> restarting virtual machine
[14:49] <brainac0cult> thanks
[14:49] <jelly12gen> brainac0cult: just google in your irc client
[14:49] <jelly12gen> damn how hard is it
[14:49] <psychomantis> ati
[14:50] <ianh99> tabarnackle, You need to log out and login again for the new group
[14:50] <psychomantis> ati
[14:51] <tunnuz> goodbye
[14:51] <Aperculum> how do I change my userlanguage?
[14:51] <tabarnackle> you mean the whole machine? like a system restart?
[14:52] <ianh99> tabarnackle, no just logout and login. groups wont show vboxusers until you do
[14:53] <h4tex> Hello
[14:53] <tabarnackle> alright thanks
[14:53] <tabarnackle> ill be back probley
[14:53] <dkT> How can I reset any configurations done in Wine? The text is very large...
[14:54] <Rakol> uhh type [10/1000]
[14:54] <Jeruvy> dkT: you may want to ask in #wine.  But maybe someone here may know also.
[14:54] <Rakol> wait - wrong channel
[14:55] <dkT> Jeruvy: Thanks
[14:55] <Aperculum> oh, by changing the language in the login screen, not very intuitive I think
[14:55] <Rakol> dont d what i said - it's for someone else
[14:59] <Josef_Assad> I have a friend with a Macbook who's interested in linux, but I'd like to start him out with a virtual machine first. What vm software for *Mac is recommended?
[14:59]  * Josef_Assad knows nothing about macs
[15:00] <bonhoffer> can anyone help my set up my wacom -- it is _almost_ working but with dual monitors it uses half of each
[15:00] <jrib> Josef_Assad: ask an osx channel.  But vbox is available for osx
[15:00] <kk_ubuntu> hello all, I am using ubuntu 8.04.2 and have an internal modem dlink, is there any wayI can get it running?
[15:00] <Bhavesh2177> how to upgrade firefox on ubuntu ?
[15:01] <Josef_Assad> jrib: any particular channel you recommend?
[15:01] <Bhavesh2177> how to upgrade firefox on ubuntu ? please
[15:01] <tabarnackle> thanks for the help that got it!
[15:01] <Josef_Assad> vbox as in Sun's Vurtual Box?
[15:01] <jelly12gen> Bhavesh2177: c'mom read the ubuntu guide
[15:01] <jelly12gen> Bhavesh2177: and look for the update manager
[15:01] <kk_ubuntu> Bhavesh2177: well, apt-get upgrade will do the trick if there are updates for firefox
[15:02] <jelly12gen> Josef_Assad: yes vbox is virtualbox
[15:02] <tabarnackle> does anyone know if bookstores carry the ubuntu guidebook?
[15:02] <thiebaude> Bhavesh2177: do you have the latest version of firefox?
[15:02] <tabarnackle> just generally random question of the morning?
[15:02] <Josef_Assad> Lord, I remember sparing with our Sun contacts over virtualbox... *sigh* but if it runs on Mac, which the page says...
[15:03] <jelly12gen> tabarnackle: well look at the website of the bookstore
[15:03] <K_O_D>  vbox is decent even if it only gives you one virt processor
[15:03] <StrifeX> Hi
[15:03] <StrifeX> I need help with new uBuntu installation
[15:03] <StrifeX> can someone help?
[15:03] <jrib> Josef_Assad: #macosx I suppose
[15:04] <tabarnackle> whaddya need help with?
[15:04] <thiebaude> !ask
[15:04] <StrifeX> i am installing ubuntu 8.10 on my system along with xp
[15:04] <StrifeX> : but after finishing the installation
[15:04] <StrifeX> : when the system is restarted then xp is automatically starts
[15:04] <StrifeX> : no screen is appearing  to choose that in which Operating system i want to log in
[15:04] <FloodBot2> StrifeX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <thiebaude> StrifeX: did you install ubuntu before xp?
[15:05] <Josef_Assad> thank you jrib and jelly12gen
[15:05] <StrifeX> yes, i did
[15:06] <bonhoffer> anyone have wacom working with dual monitors -- just need to be pointed in the right direction
[15:07] <StrifeX> Any help about my issue?
[15:07] <thiebaude> StrifeX: so when you start your computer you dont have a choice of which OS?
[15:08] <StrifeX> Exactly
[15:08] <icanhaz> i cant view youtube videos, how to do?
[15:08] <StrifeX> XP Starts automatically
[15:08] <Mike_lifeguard> icanhaz: can you see the web page?
[15:08] <yinlong> i want to know how to use this command"/etc.modprobe.d/blacklist"?
[15:08] <thiebaude> StrifeX: how did you install ubuntu?
[15:08] <icanhaz> Mike_lifeguard: yes
[15:08]  * G69 Boa tarde / Good Afternoon
[15:09] <jrib> yinlong: that's a file.  You edit it with your favorite text editor
[15:09] <Mike_lifeguard> icanhaz: what do you see where the video should be?
[15:09] <jrib> assuming that first '.' is actually supposed to be a '/'
[15:09] <thiebaude> StrifeX: did you burn a cd?
[15:09] <icanhaz> Mike_lifeguard: i don't have javascript or flash
[15:09] <yinlong> jrib,can you give me a whole command,or a example?
[15:09] <StrifeX> Yes Ofcourse
[15:09] <StrifeX> then i booted from CD
[15:09] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, so you need to install flash
[15:10] <Mike_lifeguard> !medibuntu
[15:10] <jrib> yinlong: no.  What do you want to do exactly?
[15:10] <Mike_lifeguard> icanhaz: that's for you ^
[15:11] <yinlong> jrib,i want to shut down my laptop's bluetooth.this is the frist step.
[15:11] <icanhaz> Mike_lifeguard: tahnks, i restared firefox and now it works :-)
[15:12] <yinlong> jrib,and i should change a line like"blacklist hci_usb"
[15:12] <jrib> yinlong: so create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/, that's all you have to do
[15:13] <enoch> can someone recommend a good program to write a resume with
[15:13] <Mike_lifeguard> enoch: openoffice
[15:13] <jrib> enoch: your favorite text editor and latex
[15:13] <Mike_lifeguard> enoch: or latex
[15:13] <tabarnackle> i think i finally got rid of the U3 shit on my flashdrive
[15:13] <tabarnackle> ....
[15:13] <yinlong> jrib,tell me how to create a file in  /etc/modprobe.d/
[15:13] <thiebaude> !language
[15:13] <enoch> thank you
[15:13] <jrib> yinlong: for example: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bluetooth.conf
[15:14] <yinlong> jrib,the name of the file is nano?
[15:14] <jrib> yinlong: no, that's the name of a text editor
[15:14] <jelly12gen> yinlong: no nano is an editor
[15:14] <StrifeX> ..
[15:14] <yinlong> oh,i see
[15:15] <tabarnackle> BAH
[15:15] <thiebaude> StrifeX: you could edit your grub menu, but i dont know how to do that
[15:16] <tabarnackle> is there a way to prevent an automatic mounting of a flash drive in ubuntu
[15:16] <StrifeX> Oh
[15:16] <tabarnackle> :@
[15:16] <grkblood13> how do i clear my cookies and delete the temp internet files
[15:17] <yinlong> jrib,can you give me a whole command that i can write"blacklist hci_usb" into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist please?
[15:17] <jrib> yinlong: I did
[15:17] <StrifeX> Is it possible by editing the boot.ini and adding some line there?
[15:17] <thiebaude> grkblood13 in firefox tools-clear private data
[15:17] <yinlong> jrib,thank you.
[15:17] <jrib> yinlong: if you don't understand this, you should probably take some time to get more familiar with the command line before proceeding
[15:17] <ianh99> StrifeX, when you reboot do you see a short message Press ESC to enter grub ?
[15:18] <jrib> !cli > yinlong
[15:18] <grkblood13> ok, las tthing
[15:18] <thiebaude> hi ActionParsnip
[15:18] <StrifeX> No
[15:18] <grkblood13> how do i make sure i have the latest java installed
[15:18] <StrifeX> Did you mean this? http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html
[15:18] <blizzkid> Lo all. I have a weird issue 2 identical servers, installed apache2 on both servers. One is ok, the other one spawns "ssl_error_rx_record_too_long" when connecting over ssl. Any ideas??
[15:18] <Anon0798> hallo
[15:19] <yinlong> jrib,sure,i will take it.
[15:19] <thiebaude> StrifeX: did you do that, press esc
[15:20] <yinlong> jrib,are you there?where is the whole command please?
[15:20] <jrib> yinlong: I've given it to you
[15:20] <StrifeX> i don't think i am getting any sch short message
[15:20] <jrib> yinlong: it's the only command I gave you
[15:21] <TuGa> hello all, i have a quadcore laptop and wend connected to AC power i want the processor speed to be allways on the MAX value but it indicates that is varying from Min to MAx depending on the use of the APs. how can i set the speed to the Max value? and the ubuntu is 8.10 64bits
[15:21] <yinlong> i am right here writing for you.
[15:21] <jrib> yinlong: no idea what you mean
[15:22] <yinlong> jrib,sorry,it is i am right here waiting for you.
[15:22] <yinlong> jrib,for your command.
[15:22] <|D|E|V|I|L|> irc.ptnet.org
[15:22] <jrib> yinlong: I have given it to you already.  Here you go again: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bluetooth.conf
[15:23] <NoMan> hi guys, how can i access shared drives on Windows network? I connect my laptop to my university network. We access a shared drive to get the lectures. How can i access the drive in ubuntu?
[15:23] <yinlong> jrib,thank you .
[15:24] <grkblood13> how do i check to make sure i have the latest java
[15:24] <tabarnackle> does gnome volume manager the tool to repartition?
[15:25] <yinlong> jrib,is that all ?need i print "blacklist hci_usb" in it?
[15:25] <thiebaude> !gparted
[15:25] <jrib> yinlong: if that's what you want to do, sure.  Just make sure you know what you are doing.
[15:25] <tabarnackle> word i didnt think so
[15:25] <Metal> back
[15:26] <yinlong> jrib,ok,i know.
[15:26] <metalfan_> hi
[15:26] <metalfan_> totem crashed, now i got some weird sound on the headphones that wont stop....ive killed totem
[15:26] <yinlong> jrib,but,how can i save it after i typed it in ?
[15:27] <blizzkid> quit
[15:27] <jrib> yinlong: ctrl-o, ctrl-x
[15:27] <NoMan> how can i access shared drives on Windows network? I connect my laptop to my university network. We access a shared drive to get the lectures. How can i access the drive in ubuntu?
[15:27] <tabarnackle> how can i disable automounting of USB jumpdrives?
[15:27] <yinlong> jrib,can i close it directly?
[15:28] <metalfan_> tabarnackle, jumpdrives? whats that...a jumping usb stick?
[15:28] <jrib> yinlong: I don't know what that means
[15:28] <tabarnackle> a memory stick
[15:28] <tabarnackle> rofl
[15:29] <tabarnackle> i dont have a storage tab on removable drives and media
[15:30] <tabarnackle> anyone?
[15:30] <jrib> tabarnackle: why do you expect one?
[15:30] <Axdude> Hello.
[15:30] <Axdude> I need help.
[15:30] <Axdude> With apache
[15:30] <tabarnackle> im reading a how to disable thread on the forum and im getting nowhere
[15:30] <jrib> Axdude: just ask your question
[15:30] <tabarnackle> could be lack of sleep
[15:31] <jrib> tabarnackle: "never prompt or start programs on media insertion"
[15:31] <Axdude> Apache will not start. When I try, I get Invalid command 'php_admin_value', perhaps mis-spelled..
[15:31] <Axdude> Anyone?
[15:32] <Axdude> ?
[15:32] <Axdude> I also posted this on the forums.
[15:33] <hzsp> afternoon.  I think I've corrupted my /etc/skel (ubuntu 8.04).  now when I create a new account, they're missing the usual standard folders (including ~/Desktop).  whatsmore, their desktop is now the same as their home directory
[15:33] <Axdude> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1122643
[15:33] <Brucevdk> Axdude: bad .htaccess file somewhere, no PHP installed, something like that
[15:34] <Axdude> I'm trying to start it with Webmin.
[15:34] <Brucevdk> Axdude: I never used Webmin, so can't help you there
[15:35] <Axdude> Is there any good panels that are good?
[15:35] <Axdude> Or should I say
[15:35] <Axdude> Any good web panels/ maybe a cpanel alternative?
[15:35] <grkblood13> does any1 use virtualpin.net
[15:35] <tabarnackle> goddamnit. im going to sleep
[15:36] <tabarnackle> cant get this fucking thing to work right.... cyah folks thanks for the help
[15:37] <guy_ad> anyone know how to get 1280x800 with an sis card - putting it into xorg.conf doesn't work.
[15:37] <Axdude> Hmm...
[15:37] <Axdude> Lemme see if I have php.
[15:37] <Axdude> invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
[15:37] <Axdude> Thats something I got
[15:37] <Axdude> invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
[15:38] <Axdude> Syntax error on line 19 of /var/www/vhosts/ehcp/apachehcp.conf: Invalid command 'php_admin_value', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration                                                                          [fail]
[15:39] <ianh99> Axdude, do you have /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.*
[15:40] <Axdude> Lemme check
[15:40] <bartskde2> i get a kmail error "cannot connect to host imap.gmail.com unkown error" when trying to add my gmail account any ideas?
[15:40] <Axdude> No, I don't have /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5
[15:41] <Axdude> Should I have /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5?
[15:41] <Axdude> I do not.
[15:41] <djiin> Ok I'm stumped. I still can't get 640x480 on my laptop
[15:41] <ianh99> Axdude, right you need to install php, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[15:42] <fbc-mx> Hi, was it all a dream or did ubuntu have a version that would run on a cellphone a year or two ago? I remember there was a cellphone distribution called open-???  but can't recall. Does anyone remember?
[15:42] <[eG]XxX> http://egclan.clansites.com
[15:42] <Padhu> Any tool to watch out CPU temperature?
[15:42] <Axdude> libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed.
[15:42] <Chowder> join #enlightenment
[15:42] <Axdude> It seems it is installed.
[15:42] <Chowder> whoops
[15:42] <Chowder> forgot the /
[15:42] <Axdude> But it isn't there
[15:43] <ianh99> Axdude, run sudo a2enmod php5  to enable
[15:44] <Dykam> mod_rewrite isn't responding @ my homeserver, while being activated, and a (as far as I know) correct .htacces
[15:44] <deuonderer> hi guys,i've a problem with ettercap. When i launch unified sniffing, ettercap freezes and it doesn't start..any help?
[15:44] <Axdude> Now I get [Sat Apr 11 10:44:14 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts [Sat Apr 11 10:44:14 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs
[15:44] <ianh99> Padhu, Look up lm-sensors and there is an applet to add to the panel to display temps
[15:45] <ianh99> Axdude, did you restart apache
[15:45] <Axdude> Yes
[15:45] <Axdude> When I restarted I got that.
[15:45] <Padhu> ianh99: thank you
[15:46] <Chowder> so does anyone here use e17?
[15:46] <deuonderer> .........nothing?
[15:46] <hume> hi... trying to use nfs to mount a share - and I have exported it in /etc/exports on server, restarted portmap, but trying to mount from client gives me error: wrong file system or bad superblock
[15:46] <mark`0> hi, im booted off the 8.10 livecd, trying to install ms-sys but it says the package isn't available. i definitely have the universe sources enabled and have apt-get update 'd but still not finding it. has it been renamed or is there something else i can use to fix a windows mbr?
[15:47] <hume> do I need to specify filesystem to mount the nfs share?
[15:47] <Axdude> Could anyone help?
[15:47] <djiin> I dunno now what to do. I've been trying to get my xrandr to add 800x600 and 640x480 modes
[15:47] <Padhu> axdude: ask?
[15:48] <ianh99> Axdude, I just you have a bad config file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[15:48] <djiin> been generating modelines with cvt and gtf. nothing works. :-(
[15:48] <jrib> djiin: pastebin
[15:48] <deuonderer> ....ok, nothing........
[15:48] <Axdude> I have a bad config file?
[15:48] <Chowder> mark`0, I'm not sure but try packages.ubuntu.org to find any missing packages
[15:48] <Axdude> Well, I'm not sure how to fix that.
[15:48] <ianh99> Padhu, Try this for sensors http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[15:48] <djiin> jrib, k
[15:48] <Dykam> mod_rewrite isn't responding @ my homeserver, while being activated, and a (as far as I know) correct .htacces
[15:49] <fore> Axdude: did you specify the Virtual Hosts section in the httpd config for apache?
[15:49] <ianh99> Axdude, look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and run sudo a2dissite for each and try restarting then re-enable one at a time
[15:49] <jrib> Axdude: how did you install apache?
[15:50] <armence> Hey all, I have a problem, Skype refuses to shit down...
[15:50] <hume> anyone got advice on problems with nfs mount?
[15:50] <Elda> Hello
[15:50] <jrib> hume: be more specific
[15:50] <Axdude> I installed it through sudo apt-get install apache2
[15:50] <armence> Opps, I meant shut down...
[15:50] <Brucevdk> Axdude: that error happens when you try to start Apache as a non-root user
[15:50] <hume> hi... trying to use nfs to mount a share - and I have exported it in /etc/exports on server, restarted portmap, but trying to mount from client gives me error: wrong file system or bad superblock
[15:50] <Brucevdk> Axdude: you need to do sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart -- Note that the errors about NameVirtualHost won't cause it not to start
[15:51] <Axdude> I have to start it with root?
[15:51] <Axdude> I am not starting it with root.
[15:51] <Brucevdk> Axdude: yes, Apache needs to run as root, processes spawned then run as www-data
[15:51] <Axdude> Ok
[15:51] <hume> jrib, any ideas?
[15:51] <jrib> hume: no
[15:52] <hume> jrib, how can I check if the export is really exported?
[15:52] <jrib> hume: ask the channel, I don't know anything about nfs
[15:53] <ycy> anyone with ubuntu x86_64 ?
[15:53] <hume> anyone knows how to check if a nfs export is successful? (i have problems mounting from client)
[15:53] <mib_0rai9q2p> Hello?
[15:53] <Axdude> Thanks for the help.
[15:53] <Elda> Hello
[15:53] <DASPRiD> Hi there, I've got a problem, probably related to my new motherboard: Yesterday I installed the Asus M3A78 Pro. Until today, everything worked fine. Now within the last hour I experienced 3 hangs with the following symptoms: First the network seemed to get down (No response from Skype, Pidgin going offline) and 5 seconds later the system freezes (no reaction anymore). I couldnt even connect via SSH to it, tho still ping it. The syslog doesn
[15:53] <mib_0rai9q2p> How do I control startup processses?
[15:53] <Axdude> It is working fine now.
[15:53] <DASPRiD> t state anything about it.
[15:54] <Axdude> Thank you.
[15:54] <Brucevdk> Axdude: np
[15:54] <mib_0rai9q2p> How do I control startup processses?
[15:54] <Stubenhocker_> hi!
[15:54] <mib_0rai9q2p> Hello?
[15:54] <mib_0rai9q2p> How do I control startup processses?
[15:54] <Stubenhocker_> I've got a machine with Kubuntu 7.10 installed and I'm currently considering whether I should upgrade it to 8.04. Trouble is, the user of this machine is elderly and extremely picky about even smallest changes in the UI. So I'm a bit uncertain about how I should proceed.
[15:55] <jetscreamer> startup as in the os or gnome/kde
[15:55] <Brucevdk> !repeat | mib_0rai9q2p
[15:55] <mib_0rai9q2p> How do I control startup processses?
[15:55] <mib_0rai9q2p> Oh sorry
[15:56] <jetscreamer> startup as in the os or gnome/kde <--- mib_0rai9q2p
[15:56] <Lartza_> I am wondering my internet problem here. I know it's basically windows problem(well fully), but it happens when some other computer is using internet, and currently this happens with my ubuntu server, when there are no programs open and no connections
[15:56] <Lartza_> But is ntpd in contact with internet constantly?
[15:56] <Lartza_> I have it installed
[15:56] <jetscreamer> i think it is but i forget
[15:57] <DJvRadio> i belive it is yes
[15:57] <ianh99> DASPRiD, Have you run memtest from the grub boot menu to check everything is ok
[15:57] <Lartza_> So that could be the problem then hmm... Thank you, I will experiment
[15:57] <DASPRiD> ianh99, not yet, doing it now
[15:57] <DASPRiD> ianh99, tho the memory is the same which i used for 2 years now
[15:57] <ianh99> DASPRiD, i would suggest letting it run for a few hours
[15:58] <DJvRadio> how would i go about putting ubuntu server on my computer and using it for a website server??
[15:58] <DASPRiD> ianh99, but isnt the network disconnect a strange symptom?
[15:58] <jetscreamer> DjViper: just install stuff
[15:59] <Lartza_> DJvRadio: You want to turn your current computer to server or what? RUn server and regular OS on the same computer?
[15:59] <jetscreamer> lol
[15:59] <jetscreamer> it's the same os
[15:59] <DJvRadio> run it as the deticated computer
[15:59] <DJvRadio> server
[15:59] <jetscreamer> just different stuff installed
[15:59] <Lartza_> Ok so then just install the stuff
[16:00] <Lartza_> jetscreamer: But... *sigh*
[16:00] <Lartza_> There is several options
[16:00] <mib_bpxwv72x> ______ as in Ubuntu if Batch Files as in Windows
[16:00] <mib_bpxwv72x> ?
[16:00] <jetscreamer> afk
[16:00] <DJvRadio> but would i be able to direct it to use a web service or something??
[16:00] <ianh99> DASPRiD, I've had weird stuff happen and re-seating cards and memory fixed it!
[16:00] <mib_bpxwv72x> ______ as in Ubuntu if Batch Files as in Windows
[16:00] <mib_bpxwv72x> ?
[16:01] <mib_bpxwv72x> Hello?
[16:01] <DASPRiD> ianh99, hm, you mean that i probably didnt seat a card correctly?
[16:02] <Brucevdk> !please | mib_bpxwv72x
[16:02] <djiin> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/148936/
[16:02] <mib_bpxwv72x> What the hell is that ubottu
[16:02] <mib_bpxwv72x> saying?
[16:03] <ianh99> DASPRiD, no, just a longshot guess.
[16:03] <mib_bpxwv72x> I just asked if there is any Linux equivalent for batch files in windows?
[16:03] <Brucevdk> mib_bpxwv72x: it's telling you need to be patient and need to work on phrasing questions so other people understand what you're asking
[16:03] <DJvRadio> how would i access documents from windows through ubuntu live disc??
[16:03] <systest> where does firefox pick up the default to use the icedtea plugin on hardy?  I'd like to disable it.
[16:04] <jrib> djiin: weird, don't know
[16:04] <Brucevdk> Some people.... jeez
[16:04] <jetscreamer> bash scripting
[16:04] <jetscreamer> /join #bash
[16:04] <DJvRadio> me??\
[16:05] <jetscreamer> no the windows batch guy
[16:05] <djiin> jrib, could it be that the modes 800x600 and 640x480 aren't supported by my monitor? I am using a widescreen
[16:05] <jetscreamer> hwinfo --monitor djiin
[16:05] <jrib> djiin: yeah, maybe
[16:05] <djiin> jetscreamer, k
[16:05] <Brucevdk> DjViper: I don't think anybody was talking to you :-)
[16:05] <Guest26122> hi
[16:05] <jetscreamer> you may have to install it
[16:06] <DJvRadio> well how could i access windows files through an ubuntu live boot??
[16:06] <Brucevdk> DJvRadio: anyways to answer your question, you'll have to mount the disk
[16:06] <djiin> jetscreamer, haha yeah. its installing now
[16:06] <DJvRadio> and how do i do that??
[16:06] <Brucevdk> !ntfs-3g | DJvRadio
[16:06] <DASPRiD> ianh99, just wondering: since the bug didnt appear within the first 24 hours after installing the motherboard, its unlikely that it is a driver problem with it, right?
[16:07] <Figs> when i am trying to dl my display driver it starts the install then it says "Setup will only run in Administrator mode. Setup is aborting" need help!
[16:07] <ianh99> DASPRiD, without anything in syslog you might be right. But lets not jump to conclusions. One step at a time. Once a problem is reproduceable we can fix it.
[16:08] <Jeruvy> Figs: how did you do this?  Ssytem -> admin -> hardware drivers ?
[16:08] <DASPRiD> ianh99, whats makes me wonder as well: ubuntu was still able to log the "restart" :x
[16:08] <Figs> No i downloaded my driver off the internet and instaling using wine
[16:09] <DJvRadio> thanx Brucevdk!!
[16:09] <Brucevdk> DJvRadio: np
[16:09] <jrib> Figs: erm, that's not going to work...
[16:09] <Jeruvy> figs: try my method.
[16:10] <sam_> hi all
[16:11] <psychomantis> hey guy
[16:11] <fbc-mx> Hi, was it all a dream or did ubuntu have a version that would run on a cellphone a year or two ago? I remember there was a cellphone distribution called open-???  but can't recall. Does anyone remember?
[16:11] <djiin> jetscreamer, nothing output is produced with $ hwinfo --monitor
[16:11] <djiin> *no
[16:11] <psychomantis> nono
[16:12] <DASPRiD> fbc-mx, not cellphone, but on mids
[16:12] <DASPRiD> ubuntu mobile that was
[16:12] <sam_> anybodu speak russian?
[16:12] <psychomantis> no sorry
[16:12] <psychomantis> we speak english only
[16:12] <jetscreamer> djiin: sometimes it doesn't but i don't know why
[16:12] <Jeruvy> !ru > sam_
[16:12] <jetscreamer> 'should'
[16:12] <fbc-mx> DASPRiD, mids?? drats... I though that meant they were targeting cellphones..
[16:12] <psychomantis> error: i am only a bot, please dont think i am intelligent ;)
[16:13] <DJvRadio> ok well i have an ntfs drive but it is not recognizing it
[16:13] <Ned__> how do I add 'deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian intrepid non-free' to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[16:14] <Elda> Quick question, what is the pdf viewer that comes with gnome on Ubuntu?
[16:14] <Jeruvy> Ned__: use gksude gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to open it in admin then paste the line at the end of the file.
[16:14] <stuckey> Hello
[16:14] <Jeruvy> neal__: er gksudo..
[16:14] <DASPRiD> ianh99, it ran two times through the memory now, without errors. tbh i dont believe its a ram issue, as i said, it is in use for 2 years now without problems
[16:15] <Jeruvy> Ned__ rather ;)  gksudo..
[16:15] <stuckey> I'm trying to run Call of Duty 2 and am having some difficulties. I tried it with wine 1.0.1 and am now trying it with wine 1.1.18. The game just freezes when I try to launch it, although I was once able to get into the settings menu.
[16:15] <Ned__> Jeruvy, thanks
[16:15] <stuckey> Anyone able to play this? It's rated Platinum on the winehq...
[16:15] <DJvRadio> well try to reboot the system and run the game again
[16:16] <Stubenhocker_> stuckey, you have to be careful about what version of wine it was rated for... sometimes newer versions of wine break stuff that was working perfectly before.
[16:16] <xdon> hey everyone...
[16:16] <ron2010> help... when i try to restart/shut down the computer it doesnt go to bios start but only shut off ubunut and goes back to ubuntu login
[16:16] <DJvRadio> if so you may have to reinstall the game
[16:16] <Elda> hello
[16:16] <Jeruvy> stuckey: your better off to ask in #wine, unless there is something specific to ubuntu
[16:16] <ron2010> anybody know how to fix this?
[16:17] <DJvRadio>  ok well i have an ntfs drive but it is not recognizing it
[16:17] <Elda> Quick question, what is the pdf viewer that comes with gnome on Ubuntu?
[16:17] <xdon> i was wandering if anyone knew what i could do to make my OS fill my entire screen, this is a new install of 8.10
[16:17] <jrib> Elda: evince
[16:18] <Elda> Thanks jrib :)
[16:18] <DJvRadio> so how would i get the ntfs config tool to recognize it and mount it?
[16:18] <ianh99> DASPRiD, Well I guess your just going to have to use the box and keep an eye out for errors or any pattern that causes a failure. Sorry can't help much more than that
[16:18] <Elda> xdon have you installed the drivers yet?
[16:18] <xdon> I was trying to find what drivers i needed...this is an older laptop, not sure which i need
[16:18] <sjust1216> Morning all. I would like to move from 32bit to 64bit can I upgrade to do this or do I have to a clean install
[16:18] <Elda> Once you get the drivers for you video card in, it will go to a native resolution, or normal for your laptop
[16:18] <DASPRiD> ianh99, well then i try to reassemble all components and watch out
[16:18] <DJvRadio> clean install
[16:18] <Elda> Well, what video card does it have?
[16:19] <djiin> I'm off. Thanks everyone!
[16:19] <DJvRadio> sjust1216 it ould have to be a clean install
[16:19] <xdon> is there a command i can use to see the vid card?....
[16:19] <Jeruvy> xdon: sudo lshw
[16:20] <hume> what is the program to use to automatically set up ssh public key authentication? just cannot find it
[16:20] <DJvRadio> why cant people google stuff like that??
[16:20] <sjust1216> ok my home is on separate partition is there a place in the installer for this
[16:20] <DJvRadio> not u though hume
[16:20] <Jeruvy> hume: openssh?
[16:21] <DJvRadio> im gone
[16:21] <epaphus> hi guys.. ubuntu has an icon to connect to networks.. wireless, wired and vpn... why is that the vpn options are gray?? how do i enable this?
[16:21] <hume> Jeruvy, no, the program to set up the public key authentication.....
[16:21] <ianh99> hume ssh-keygen
[16:21] <sjust1216> I should say an option in the installer to select where home is
[16:21] <hume> ianh99, no, got that one...the one to distrubute the key and set it all up...
[16:21] <Jeruvy> hume: if your using openssh, then ssh-keygen is the command
[16:22] <clearscreen> ubuntu should ship geany instead of gedit as default text editor imo (possibly disabling the sidebar and info bar to make it more like gedit) :)
[16:22] <hume> Jeruvy, ssh-keygen gives me the key, but there is a program to scp it to the server, set up the authorized_keys etc....
[16:22] <ianh99> hume, you have to copy the public key to the client machines by hand
[16:23] <Jeruvy> hume: yes it's called scp :)
[16:23] <jrib> hume: ssh-copy-id
[16:23] <xdon> I dont see a reference for a video card when typing 'lshw'....i do see it is a 'HP Pavilion Notebook PC'..
[16:24] <jrib> xdon: lshw -C video   OR   lspci
[16:24] <Jeruvy> jrib: thats one I didn't know of.  thx.
[16:24] <hhlp> !wifi | hhlp
[16:24] <mahmoud> mahmoud
[16:25] <xdon> says it is unclaimed
[16:25] <mahmoud> i love you Linux
[16:25] <Guest1897> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[16:25] <clearscreen> mmmpf since I changed my decorator to emerald, when I doubleclick any taskbar, it hides the window's contents.... is there any way to change this behavior? (doubleclick should switch between maximize and restore)
[16:25] <xdon> VGA compadible controller
[16:25] <clearscreen> Couldnt find the option in emerald settings btw
[16:26] <clearscreen> nevermind me
[16:26] <clearscreen> im dumb :)
[16:27] <xdon> when i use lshw -C video I get '*-display UNCLAIMED'...there is some other info....te descritionVGA compatible controller' is '
[16:28] <epaphus> hi guys.. ubuntu has an icon to connect to networks.. wireless, wired and vpn... why is that the vpn options are gray?? how do i enable this?
[16:28] <xdon> Any ideas on how/what driver to get?
[16:28] <kondora> hello, i need help with iptables, please if you are expert please help me
[16:28] <jrib> kondora: just ask your question
[16:29] <kondora> but it rather complicated
[16:29] <jrib> kondora: well if you want someone to help you, you need to ask it, no?  Ask it on one line, provide details in a pastebin link
[16:29] <Jeruvy> epaphus: have you checked this out? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[16:30] <dury> hi there channel :)
[16:30] <grkblood13> god doesnt want me to bet tonight :(
[16:30] <dury> is there a channel for ubuntu studio?
[16:30] <kondora> i have 3 machines with external ip, i want to connect from first to second, and second machine will forward connection to third
[16:31] <kondora> i have tried rules in iptables but with no succes
[16:31] <EdgEy> hi, can anyone tell me what ubuntu uses to auto mount drives?
[16:31] <kondora> can you provide me detail description?
[16:31] <clearscreen> EdgEy: /etc/fstab
[16:31] <EdgEy> clearscreen, i mean uh
[16:31] <jrib> kondora: you might want to try #iptables for that
[16:32] <EdgEy> the automatic mounting when you insert a usb drive or something similar
[16:32] <narcoclepsy> I know i can use fsck to check the file system integrity, is there anything i can run from a livecd to actually test the harddrive for errors? I think my disk may be going bad and I want to check it out before i get a new one
[16:32] <EdgEy> it's not in fstab
[16:32] <clearscreen> EdgEy: oh, dont really know
[16:32] <Jeruvy> EdgEy: um, you mean automount?
[16:32] <EdgEy> Jeruvy, yes
[16:32] <kondora> jrib: yes, i have tried iptables - but seems its not working with external ips
[16:32] <EdgEy> i need to somehow "refresh" that
[16:32] <EdgEy> without rebooting
[16:32] <grawity> So in VirtualPC, during boot the screen becomes like this: http://arbelos.cluenet.org/~grawity/dump/virtualpc-ubuntu-video.png -- how can I fix it? (I managed to install openssh-server, but I'd like X too.)
[16:32] <jrib> kondora: #iptables, the channel on freenode
[16:33] <Jeruvy> EdgEy: :)  not sure, did you try 'man automount' or 'info mount'?
[16:33] <dury> found it .... #ubuntustudio
[16:33] <EdgEy> i created a new partition and gparted locked it so there was an error on automounting, i know i can manually put it in fstab
[16:33] <EdgEy> automount isn't installed
[16:33] <xdon> I am trying to get a driver for my older HP notebook with 8.10...here is what i get when us lshw http://pastebin.ca/1388891hw
[16:34] <Elda> bleh.... libgl fails at everything life related >.>
[16:34] <xdon> Sorry, that link got messed up.................http://pastebin.ca/1388891
[16:34] <Elda> Stupid thing is not letting me install my new catalyst drivers
[16:34] <Jeruvy> EdgEy: this may help, I'm not sure so I'll quit talking about it :)  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[16:35] <toree> does anybody use codelite? i want to download codelite but it s not on add/remove list so thne i downloaded .rpm file how can i install it?
[16:35] <Dykam>  I've this .htacces in /var/www/FourtyTwo/ http://monoport.com/40364 - why do I get an file not found on http://86.90.119.49/FourtyTwo/default/mark/index.htm - the error logs shows that /FourtyTwo/default couldn't be found - looks like mod rewrite is skipped completely
[16:35] <deany> Dykam,  sudo a2enmod rewrite   ?
[16:36] <Dykam> hehe
[16:36] <Dykam> already done that
[16:36] <Dykam> restarted
[16:36] <Dykam> also tried placing the rewriterules in the conf
[16:36] <deany> silly question...... is .htacces really named like that...
[16:36] <vlad> major problem-whenever I insert a usb memory device it gives me the  invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume messge
[16:36] <Dykam> deany, yes
[16:36] <deany> .htaccess    :)
[16:36] <Dykam> /var/www/FourtyTwo/.htaccess
[16:37] <Dykam> hehe
[16:37] <jdu> xdon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319261   perhaps
[16:37] <Dykam> the name is right
[16:37] <deany> you had 1 s in your first post... ok,  well i dont know then
[16:37] <Dykam> bweh
[16:38] <Dykam> weird, huh
[16:38] <behappy> Hello
[16:38] <Dykam> the rules is right, I checked it with one checker
[16:38] <dr_phd1> hello everyone, i got a question, i have two computers both have Ubuntu installed on it, one is connected with the internet, while the other isn't, my question is, Can I take all the update files and softwares that i installed on the computer with internet to the computer that doesn't have one?
[16:38] <jdu> dr_phd1, yes.
[16:39] <dr_phd1> if yes, then where are these files located and how to install it on the other computer
[16:39] <Melkor> Salut
[16:39] <Melkor> hello
[16:39] <jdu> dr_phd1, that is what I am trying to remember
[16:39]  * jdu looks
[16:39] <deany> Dykam, well when you goto http://86.90.119.49/FourtyTwo    it changes into  http://86.90.119.49/FourtyTwo/default/index.htm/mark  and gives error.
[16:40] <yooyoo> Hello
[16:40] <dury> anyone runs ubuntu studio here?
[16:40] <Dykam> deany, I know, that has nothing to do with it, it's done by a asp.net page
[16:40] <dumdumz> i was manually updating my grub menu.lst because I removed my windows partition and my ubuntu was still showing 7.10 when I am using 8.10 I copied the 8.10 entries from a website and now when I boot, i get a command prompt with (initramfs) Anyone know how I can fix this?
[16:40] <Dykam> I disable it, wait
[16:40] <deany> Dykam, out of my league then... best goto #apache
[16:40] <Dykam> done
[16:40] <Dykam> already there
[16:40] <Dykam> no response :P
[16:40] <stefg> !grub | dumdumz
[16:41] <behappy> hello which program best help to build the site support (css html xhtml javascript php) ??
[16:41] <dumdumz> stefg, !grub: not found
[16:41] <yooyoo> This machine has Ubuntu 8.04.  I changed the Gnome theme to a blue one (just chose one from the themes that come with ubuntu), but Qt programs still use brown as the highlight and selection colours.  Can I do anything about this?
[16:41] <kirb> so i have network connection... all other applications work.. but firefox is unable to resolve a page
[16:42] <dumdumz> lol
[16:42] <jdu> dr_phd1, ok  /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:42] <yooyoo> (it's a plain Qt program that I use, not a KDE one)
[16:42] <stefg> dumdumz: see the links the bot gave you .. ! is the trigger for the bot, followed by the factoid
[16:42] <dury> behappy: there are
[16:42] <jdu> dr_phd1, there are more advanced solutions such as apt-proxy
[16:42] <dumdumz> stefg, yeah i noticed that right after my dumb comment
[16:42] <wisdom206> 저 안녕하세요
[16:42] <dr_phd1> jdu, ok, but how to install it the other computer
[16:42] <zilleplus> my ftp-server only works local how can i let it work on m Wan address
[16:42] <wisdom206> 도움좀 받으러 왔어요
[16:42] <zilleplus> ??
[16:42] <FloodBot2> wisdom206: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <dr_phd1> do i have to do it manually one by one
[16:43] <dury> behappy: one sec.
[16:43] <wisdom206> ;
[16:43] <xdon> http://pastebin.ca/1388891.....Can anyone please help me get video drivers...
[16:43] <stefg> !zh | wisdom
 : OK
[16:43] <Dykam> that's korean
[16:43] <stefg> !kr | wisdom
[16:43] <grawity> How do I fix this: http://is.gd/rVLz/ubuntu.png (Ubuntu 8.10, Virtual PC 2007 SP1, openssh-server installed)
[16:43] <wisdom206> ah; hello
[16:43] <openjs> who is korean?
[16:43] <spaceBARbarian> is there any program that will let me pick my OS before i reboot ?
[16:43] <wisdom206> yes im korean;
[16:43] <Dykam> see
[16:44] <openjs> wisdom206,  nice to see u
[16:44] <wisdom206> so...
[16:44] <wisdom206> mee too ^^
[16:44] <jdu> dr_phd1, copy them to the same place in the other computer
[16:44] <wisdom206> i'm install  ffmpeg to ubuntu
[16:44] <zilleplus> my ftp-server only works local how can i let it work on m Wan address i have ubuntu server 8.10
[16:44] <openjs> 그럼 한국방으로가는게좋죠..
[16:44] <spaceBARbarian> is there any program that will let me pick my OS before i reboot ?
[16:44] <jdu> dr_phd1, I think that should work.  If it doesn't, use apt-proxy
[16:44] <wisdom206> 잘못들어와서요;
[16:44] <yooyoo> On 8.04, after switching the gnome theme to a predominantly blue one, Qt programs (not kde ones) are still brown.  Can I do anything about that?
[16:44] <dury> behappy: quanta     sudo apt-get install quanta
[16:44] <jdu> spaceBARbarian, grub
[16:45] <LjL> !kr
[16:45] <openjs> ubuntu-ko 에 가시거나 hanirc #ubuntu로 가세요
[16:45] <dr_phd1> jdu, and what is apt-proxy and how it works
[16:45] <LjL> !ko
[16:45] <stefg> openjs, wisdom206 feel free to open up ubuntu-kr ... but please keep this channel english only
 :Ok let me try
[16:45] <openjs> Steffy, ok.. sorry
[16:45] <LjL> no need to open it up stefg, it's there already
[16:45] <jdu> dr_phd1, it is a proxy server that would allow your internet connected computer to act as a proxy for deb packages
[16:45] <LjL> although it's #ubuntu-ko not #ubuntu-kr
[16:46] <dury> behappy: there are more    one sec.
[16:46] <jdu> dr_phd1, it would require the two computers to be networked together.  but it would mean that any package would only have to downloaded once.
 I worked with MS expression web in windows its very very nice program I hope to find same or better for linux
[16:47] <dr_phd1> but the computers are miles apart
[16:47] <dr_phd1> and can't be connected together
[16:47] <dury> behappy: are you right now under linux ubuntu
[16:47] <behappy> dury: yes
[16:48] <dury> behappy: right....   8.10 or 8.04
[16:48] <LedGuardian> excuse me, but which channel would i go to for problems with the graphics driver?
[16:48] <jrib> LedGuardian: this one
[16:49] <beware> can i use an ubuntu "dvd" to install ubuntu without desktop?
[16:49] <LedGuardian> oh, thank you
[16:49] <behappy> dury: 8.04
[16:49] <zilleplus> my ftp-server only works local how can i let it work on m Wan address i have ubuntu server 8.10
[16:49] <yooyoo> On 8.04, after switching the gnome theme to a predominantly blue one, Qt programs (not KDE ones) are still use a brown highlight colour.  How can I change the highlight colours for Qt4 programs?
[16:49] <dury> behappy: how long you migrate to ubuntu... are you newbie?
[16:50] <zilleplus> my ftp-server only works local how can i let it work on m Wan address i have ubuntu server 8.10
[16:50] <clearscreen> !repeat | zilleplus
[16:50] <dury> behappy: or you familiar with it
 yes I have 2 day ago
[16:50] <behappy> dury: I have litle background in linux
 I found ubunto its very very nice system , really I find my rest with it
[16:51] <dury> behappy: keep using it it will give you success
[16:51] <JimmyAx> Hello everyone :)    I got some strange errors on my system log: Apr 11 17:46:68 jimmy-laptop kernel: [ 3700.321871] ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration failed (2412MHz)         Any tips? Thanks :)
[16:52] <fore> ubuntu > *
[16:52] <kirb> so i have network connection... all other applications work.. but firefox is unable to resolve a page... DNS issue?  any quick thoughts?
[16:52] <behappy> dury : I wich to find all same or better program that I use on windows
[16:52] <dury> behappy: you choose the best linux distribution migrating for win32
[16:52] <jdu> kirb, are you using a standard installation?
[16:52] <kirb> 8.10 yes
[16:53] <jdu> kirb, with NetworkManager working?
[16:53] <kirb> its on a dell mini 9
[16:53] <LedGuardian> i've got a, NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GE graphics card, but the NVIDIA acccelerated graphics driver version 177 does not seem to include a driver for this particular card.  Is there somewhere I can get a driver for this?
[16:53] <stefg> JimmyAx: try using another channel on your router.... might as well be a bug in the driver. But this says:"Eeeww, it's noisy on this channel"
 you advice me to use quanta than others ??
[16:53] <gayatri> how do i run x-windows on ubuntu
[16:53] <kirb> yes network manager is running... oddly enough if i vpn into work.. i can open websites
[16:53] <LjL> gayatri: it is installed and runs by default.
[16:54] <dury> behappy: well.. there are couple of more
[16:54] <dury> behappy: one sec. :)
[16:54] <JimmyAx> stefg: It's probably a bug in the driver then.... Ubuntu automatically chosed a channel.
[16:54] <behappy> dury: ok thank you very much :)
[16:54] <kirb> why would firefox be able to open pages when im vpn'd to work.. but not if i am not vpn'd... it feels like dns
[16:55] <Davide> When I try to watch videos from a certain website that uses a flashplugin, I am unable to full screen the video.  WOuld someone try it to confirm that it's not just me?
[16:55] <jdu> kirb, probably dns
[16:55] <stefg> JimmyAx: usually it's the router which picks a channel...
[16:55] <jrib> Davide: it's just you
[16:55] <cjb_ie> i'm getting random X crashes - i started apport as suggested by http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing but after a crash apport-cli reports "No pending crash reports." - any idea what i might be doing wrong?
[16:56] <Davide> jrib: can you try it?
[16:56] <jrib> Davide: try what...?
[16:56] <kirb> jdu is this something i can reset? i know little on dns
[16:56] <jdu> kirb, is resolv.conf correct?
[16:56] <JimmyAx> stefg: oh, well that always appeared, even if I restart my router
[16:56] <Davide> jrib: www.gomtv.net
[16:56] <jdu> kirb, you might retry restarting networking (sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart) and NetworkManager
[16:57] <gayatri> i am sorry but i am new to ubuntu
[16:57] <dury> behappy: go to System-Administration-Synaptic Package Manager
[16:57] <kirb> jdu, ok
[16:57] <jrib> Davide: it's just you
[16:57] <jdu> kirb, resolv.conf is in /etc
[16:57] <gayatri> how do i get to it?
[16:57] <Davide> so what could be wrong?
[16:57] <jdu> kirb, it contains your dns configuration
[16:57] <Davide> jrib
[16:57] <SONICDUDE41> Uh.... Hi.  I am thinking about dual booting XP and Ubuntu.  I've got a few questions...
[16:57] <stefg> JimmyAx: see your routers config, it might be set to automatic... set it to manual and try some channels
[16:57] <LjL> gayatri: you have it. by default. it's your graphical interface. it's what you *see*.
[16:57] <jrib> Davide: old version of flash probably
[16:57] <Elda> SONICDUDE41, go for it :)
[16:57] <SONICDUDE41> Okay
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[16:57] <gayatri> oh really?
[16:57] <Elda> I can help with any dualbooting issue, for the most part at least ;)
[16:57] <SONICDUDE41> I've got a recovery partition
[16:58] <dury> behappy: and you can install the package about World Wide Web you want
[16:58] <SONICDUDE41> How would I go about keeping that intact?
[16:58] <hajmola> a video error'd out and froze gmplayer... now I can't kill it. I tried killall and i tried to kill it with TOP... any other ways to kill?
[16:58] <Davide> jrib, I just downloaded it, and just installed ubuntu too
[16:58] <Elda> Okey
[16:58] <LjL> gayatri: what did you think it was?
[16:58] <JimmyAx> stefg: Thanks, I'll try that. If it doesn't work I'll come back here. Thanks :)
[16:58] <gayatri> i had seen multiple windows in an x window in my school
[16:58] <jrib> Davide: according to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/, what version is installed?
[16:58] <Elda> Sonic, you would go into the option to partition it yourself when you start installing gnome
[16:58] <Elda> err Ubuntu
[16:58] <LjL> gayatri: ... and your Ubuntu doesn't allow you to have multiple windows?
[16:59] <gayatri> it does
[16:59] <SONICDUDE41> Okay
[16:59] <xdon> I have a clean install, I have headers but no kernel source, I tried apt-get install kernel-source, but it retuPackage kernel-source is not available, but is referred to by another package'rns '
 there is 3 choose which one ?
[16:59] <gayatri> but thats different
[16:59] <Elda> Just make sure to pay attention to the size of the partition when you are making new ones, and make sure that you dont play with that one
[16:59] <SONICDUDE41> Okay
[16:59] <stefg> !kernel | xdon
[16:59] <xdon> what is the best way to load kernel source?
[16:59] <gayatri> i guess i sound like a fool right now
[16:59] <LjL> gayatri: how about you actually tell us what it is that you want to achieve, regardless of what you think x-windows or anything is
[16:59] <SONICDUDE41> If that's the caste, my recovery partition is 5.6 GB
[16:59] <SONICDUDE41> *case
[16:59] <SONICDUDE41> I would avoid that partition, right?
[16:59] <hajmola> anyone know how to kill a program that refuses to be killed?
[17:00] <cjb_ie> nobody can advise on making apport work to create useful backtraces?
[17:00] <gayatri> i had worked a couple of times on my school comp
[17:00] <LjL> gayatri: you don't sound like a fool, you just sound like someone who should be asking a different question
none, multiverse , universe
[17:00] <gayatri> they have redhat linux installed
[17:00] <LjL> hajmola: killall -9 programname
[17:00] <stefg> xdon: the complete kernel sources are not maintained as a package. If you really nned them you need a git-pull
[17:00] <gayatri> and at the prompt
[17:00] <LjL> !enter
[17:00] <gayatri> i type in xwin
[17:00] <dury> behappy: screem     sudo apt-get install screem
[17:00] <kirb> jdu, should anything be in the resolve.conf file?  i have 3 nameserver lines.
[17:00] <hajmola> LjL, thanks! what does the -9 mean?
[17:00] <Davide> jrib, hang on booting up... I think it was version 9 but let me check
[17:01] <Harpoon_> anyone use a software raid?
[17:01] <grawity> hajmola: "SIGTERM"
[17:01] <dury> behappy: check it out.... three of them
[17:01] <LjL> hajmola: it means SIGKILL. "man kill"
[17:01] <LjL> grawity: no
[17:01] <stefg> !anyone | Harpoon_
[17:01] <SONICDUDE41> Okay.  What about the Partition Table?  Would making a new partition modify the table?
[17:01] <gayatri> and about three or four windows open up by itseld
[17:01] <gayatri> i am sorry
[17:01] <jdu> kirb, it should be pointing to the correct nameserver.  You can't really edit it as NetworkManager generates it on the fly.
[17:01] <behappy> dury:Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:01] <gayatri> maybe i dont really understand what x-windows is
[17:02] <kirb> jdu, ok well how can i verify these 3 ips are correct?  or should i just assume so
[17:02] <LjL> Gary: i have no idea what that "xwin" command is.
[17:02] <LjL> gayatri: i have no idea what that "xwin" command is.
[17:02] <LjL> !x | gayatri
[17:02] <Davide> jrib, it's verion 9.0.159.0
[17:02] <LjL> gayatri: if you're seeing a graphical interface on your computer right now - that *is* X.
[17:03] <jrib> Davide: I have version 10.  I can't recall if version 9 did fullscreen or not
[17:03] <gayatri> oh oka
[17:03] <dury> behappy: yeah because you have Synaptic open
[17:03] <stefg> gayatri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[17:03] <jdu> kirb, I am not an expert on this, but you only actually need one, I think. It should probably point to your router, such as 192.168.0.1
[17:03] <PhotoJim> gayatri: think of X as the part of Linux that interacts between the system and all the graphical applications you run.  it's the software system that lets graphics be done.  it's capable of a lot of really cool stuff.  you can even display graphics on another machine far away using X.
[17:03] <dury> close it and then sudo apt-get install screem
[17:03] <behappy> dury: Oh yes thank you
[17:03] <jdu> kirb, your router should be repeating the dns service.
[17:04] <Davide> oh
[17:04] <Davide> jrib, why would it automatically install version 9?
[17:04] <LjL> gayatri: you may want to ask on #rhel what "xwin" might be - i have no idea
[17:04] <jrib> Davide: what version of ubuntu?
[17:04] <dury> behappy: by the way... where you from?
[17:04] <gayatri> sure ljl
[17:05] <gayatri> thanks so much for your patience for my stupid questions
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[17:05] <Davide> jrib, 8.04 I'm installing flash 10 right now
[17:05] <chriswaterguy> I'm trying to run package manager from command line. Anyone know the command?
[17:06] <stefg> !apt
[17:06] <erUSUL> chriswaterguy: aptitude
[17:06] <dury> behappy: even you can setup up your ubuntu in your language if you wish
[17:06] <LedGuardian> is there any driver that supports NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GE?
[17:07] <erUSUL> !nvidia
[17:07] <stefg> !nvidia
[17:07] <behappy> dury: prefer English
[17:07] <chriswaterguy> erUSUL: is that the GUI? tried it, but it didn't launch anything.
[17:07] <bonez46> how can I make sure I have a FQDN? I don't think I am correctly set up with that yet on this box
[17:07] <chriswaterguy> (I'm running pekwm, very light WM)
[17:08] <erUSUL> chriswaterguy: i thought you wanted the cli version... the gui one is « gksudo synaptic »
[17:08] <raa> hello folks! I have a serial port USB adapter, do you know how can i see where it is located my serial port?
[17:08] <raa> (excuse me for the poor english)
[17:09] <cjb_ie> raa: it's probably /dev/ttyUSB0
[17:09] <jtaji> raa: after you plug it in, type dmesg to see.. most likely it's /dev/ttyUSB0
[17:09] <raa> ok
[17:09] <raa> located
[17:09] <Davide> jrib, Still won't go full screen
[17:09] <raa> thank you so much!
 in windows I use winscp + putty  (auto past password)  manage my server is there some same programs in ubuntu ?
[17:09] <raa>  is there a convention in order to know where all devices are located?
[17:10] <raa> so i won't ask here anymore in the future!
[17:10] <histo> behappy: you can use scp and ssh in ubuntu
[17:10] <Davide> jrib, have you tried to watch a video on that site? would you give it a shot for me? just to see? www.gomtv.net
[17:10] <dury> mudfly: no idea about it
[17:10] <histo> behappy: unless you mean graphical aplications for scp.
[17:10] <bonez46> how do I correctly establish my FQDN for a new ubuntu box?
yes
[17:11] <chriswaterguy> erUSUL: ah, I ran "aptitude&" and the "&" stopped the CLI version loading :-). GUI version = fantastic, got it.
[17:11] <histo> behappy: hrm.. let me search for an app
[17:11] <dury> behappy: no idea about it
with password auto paste
 thank you
thank you
[17:12] <axisys> when I come back from hibernation my wvdial does not work until reboot.. shows this message http://pastebin.com/f46882b86 .. why?
[17:12] <axisys> am I hitting a bug?
[17:13] <axisys> i am running intrepid
[17:13] <axisys> on my laptop
[17:13] <Davide> Is anyone able to watch videos in full screen from this site?  www.gomtv.net
[17:13] <Davide> with ubuntu
[17:13] <histo> behappy: sudo aptitude install secpanel
[17:13] <histo> behappy: thats one I found on google thats in the repos. Not sure if it does the password thing you are requesting but you can check.
[17:14] <jtaji> Davide: yes works fine
[17:14] <cjb_ie> axisys: you could try   modprobe -rf ohci-hcd && modprobe ohci-hcd   to reinitialise usb, i have similar problems
 OK thank you
[17:14] <Davide> jtaji, thanks for checking... idk why I cannot go full screen...
[17:14] <histo> Davide: you can open them with like vlc or something
[17:15] <Davide> histo, how aren't they embedded videos?
[17:15] <histo> Davide: youc an get links for the embedded videos let me try to find the option in firefox
[17:15] <schmitz> ola
[17:15] <cjb_ie> axisys: or it might be  ehci-hcd  in your case if your usb ports are usb2
[17:16] <gayatri> guys i have downloaded an IDE for linux
[17:16] <gayatri> actually its Komodo IDE
[17:16] <jtaji> Davide: actually it does seem to be problematic, going back from full screen locked up firefox for a bit
[17:16] <gayatri> i had the file in .tar format
[17:16] <gayatri> how do i go about installing the application
[17:17] <histo> Davide: hit ctrl+i and go tot he media tab
[17:17] <gayatri> in linux
[17:17] <coldserver> Is there a way to know when or how long a particular user has been logged in?
[17:17] <Davide> jtaji, ah
[17:17] <histo> Davide: or tools > page info
[17:17] <Davide> histo, let me try
[17:17] <cjb_ie> coldserver: finger, last
[17:17] <histo> coldserver: on irc or ubuntu
[17:18] <histo> coldserver: who command will tell you
[17:18] <axisys> cjb_ie: ohci_hcd per dmesg.. thanks.. would be nice if it is fixed on jaunty
[17:18] <Davide> histo, ok then what? take the link and put it in movie player?
[17:18] <cjb_ie> axisys: hopefully that'll help you in the meantime
[17:18] <histo> Davide: well you need to put it in somehting that will play swf like vlc
[17:18] <axisys> cjb_ie: oops!
[17:19] <axisys> cjb_ie: i have both hcd http://pastebin.com/f28ccfbf2
[17:19] <axisys> cjb_ie: not sure which I am using now
[17:19] <salmon> noob question: is there like a standard screen res for a crt monitor. i can't seem to get things to seem rite
[17:19] <kirb> so i have network connection... all other applications work.. but firefox is unable to resolve a page... DNS issue?  any quick thoughts? resolve.conf seems correct
[17:19] <histo> Davide: like put it in a firefox window
[17:19] <Horusofoz> Hi first time ever Linux user lloking help :)
[17:19] <histo> Davide: like past it in  new tab then hit F11 to go fullscreen
[17:20] <cjb_ie> axisys: in that case i'd probably   modprobe -rf ohci-hcd ehci-hcd && modprobe ehci-hcd ohci-hcd
[17:21] <cjb_ie> (i've had problems before where if ohci-hcd got loaded first, usb2 ports would magically turn into usb1)
[17:21] <Horusofoz> I've got ubuntu installed into a virtualbox (First time with that too). I installed the VB Additions and enabled 3D graphics, changed the depth to 24 but now my mouse has disappeared = (
[17:21] <axisys> cjb_ie: is there a I can tell which hcd I am using from dmesg http://pastebin.com/f15f7c292
[17:23] <cjb_ie> hmm, you have uhci-hcd too. personally i would just let modprobe worry about the details.
[17:24] <erUSUL> axisys: in the dmesg both ehci (usb2) and uhci (usb1 ) load
[17:24] <cjb_ie> erUSUL: he's got ohci too, just to add to the fun.
[17:24] <Horusofoz> ?? :(
[17:24] <erUSUL> cjb_ie: maybe he has an expansion card with usb 2.0 ?
[17:24] <Davide> histo, I was just installing vlc player not sure how to make it work...
[17:25] <Davide> histo, kinda new to it
[17:25] <cjb_ie> axisys: anyway, just try  modprobe -rf ohci-hcd uhci-hcd ehci-hcd && modprobe ehci-hcd uhci-hcd ohci-hcd   and see if wvdial works after that
[17:26] <raa>  I have a serial port USB adapter, and i want to use this new serial port in a windows xp guest under ubuntu host. I have set vbox to use serial ports, in particular COM1, with Host device type and /dev/ttyUSB0 path. Now under windows xp, serial ports is correctly seen by windows, but the program that use the serial port doesn't see my little robot (linked with the serial port). With the real windows xp it all works perfectly, but i don't want to use real windows
[17:27] <Davide> jrib, histo, it seems to still be using flashplayer 9,  when I right click on the video it says flashplayer 9.. ??
[17:28] <jrib> Davide: did you restart firefox?
[17:28] <Horusofoz> Come on guys. There's over a 1000 of yous in here. What happen to that OSS community support?
[17:28] <icqn> avery time an java applet opens in ff which is able to play sound, sound stops working in vlc and all video players
[17:28] <jrib> Horusofoz: do you have an actual question?
[17:28] <icqn> every*
[17:28] <Horusofoz> Yes.
[17:28] <Davide> jrib yes I did
[17:28] <Horusofoz> How do I get my mouse back
[17:28] <jrib> Horusofoz: then please just ask it...
[17:28] <Davide> jrib I'm gonna reinstall and restart again
[17:29] <Horusofoz> I thought I did
[17:29] <Horusofoz> one sec
[17:29] <jrib> Horusofoz: How can you expect anyone to help you with that?  You need to provide more details
[17:29] <Horusofoz> Sorry a real noob here
[17:29] <cjb_ie> Davide: sometimes the firefox process doesn't really die when you quit.
[17:29] <jway> how do I check whether my kernel was compiled with CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD set?
[17:29] <Horusofoz> Sorry if I come of as impatient or demanding
[17:29] <Horusofoz> Been trying for hours
[17:30] <icqn> every time a java applet opens in firefox, which is able to play sound, sound stops working in vlc and all video players like mplayer, banshee... is it a known issue in ubuntu intrepid?
[17:30] <flubber> hello what would be a reason that ubuntu 8.04 install on my computer but ubuntu 8.10 does not?
[17:30] <cjb_ie> flubber: more details please! when you say it "does not", what happens?
[17:30] <raa> explain better your situation flubber
[17:31] <Gurkan`> anyone here having problems with the latest nvidia driver?
[17:31] <jrib> Horusofoz: no need to be sorry, I'm just trying to tell you how to get help: ask a detailed question, wait (and search on your own while you do so), repeat.  There isn't always someone around who can help you.  You aren't being ignored, it's just that we don't know how to help you.  However, if you say things like "why isn't anyone helping me", then I read THAT instead of you question and it's impossible
[17:31] <axisys> cjb_ie: thanks
[17:31] <jrib> for me to help you
[17:31] <dashboard> hi guys
[17:31] <cjb_ie> axisys: no problem, did it work/
[17:31] <Gurkan`> anyone here having problems with the latest nvidia driver?
[17:31] <raa> I have a serial port USB adapter, and i want to use this new serial port in a windows xp guest under ubuntu host. I have set vbox to use serial ports, in particular COM1, with Host device type and /dev/ttyUSB0 path. Now under windows xp, serial ports is correctly seen by windows, but the program that use the serial port doesn't see my little robot (linked with the serial port). With the real windows xp it all works perfectly, but i don't want to use real windows,
[17:31] <axisys> cjb_ie: i have not tried yet..
[17:31] <flubber> sorry when i try to boot into the install the spinning cursor pops up then it freezes then my whole monitor just shows lines on the screen
[17:31] <Horusofoz> Cool. It's Ubuntu 8.10 running in a 2.2 virtual box. When I enable 3D acceleration in VB I lose the mouse in Ubuntu.
[17:32] <Gurkan`> anyone here running nvidia could help me with a problem concerning the latest drivers?
[17:32] <Elive_user34_es> hi
[17:32] <Gurkan`> could anyone here*
[17:32] <Elive_user34_es> can anybody help me?
[17:32] <Elive_user34_es> I install Elive in a 30gb partition, and y need to add to grub the ubuntu, but ubuntu have's ext4 partitions, and I don't know how to update the kernel... can any body help me?
[17:32] <cjb_ie> raa: is your message getting too long for the line? i'm seeing it end at "but i don't want to use real windows,"
[17:32] <Wheat-Thin> flubber sounds quite odd, and quite graphics card related
[17:32] <dawson> Good morning everyone, I am having a problem with my installation. For some reason my external hard drive is not being detected on boot, I have to unplug it and then plug it back in. Any ideas?
[17:33] <jrib> Horusofoz: you might want to try #vbox for that and mention the host os
[17:33] <whax> hi
[17:33] <Elive_user34_es> #ubuntu-es
[17:33] <raa> I have a serial port USB adapter, and i want to use this new serial port in a windows xp guest under ubuntu host. I have set vbox to use serial ports, in particular COM1, with Host device type and /dev/ttyUSB0 path. Now under windows xp, serial ports is correctly seen by windows, but the program that use the serial port doesn't see my little robot (linked with the serial port).
[17:33] <raa>  With the real windows xp it all works perfectly, but i don't want to use real windows, only vbox with windows guest. Anyone can help me?
[17:33] <whax> cc
[17:33] <Horusofoz> jrib: How do you edit the driver for the mouse? I've seen inforums for some people it's editing driver "mouse" to "vboxmouse"
[17:33] <whax> yes
[17:33] <whax> hay
[17:33] <dashboard> is there a known problem with su on jaunty ? I can't switch users, either using sudo or su
[17:33] <flubber> that is what i think it is too, are the graphics more demanding in ubuntu 8.10?
[17:34] <Flannel> dashboard: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks
[17:34] <jrib> Horusofoz: either edit the fdi for the mouse or edit xorg.conf and add the appropriate option so that it gets used for input devices
[17:34] <jrib> !x | Horusofoz
[17:34] <dashboard> Flannel thanks
[17:34] <Wheat-Thin> flubber I don't think they are more demanding.. it's just maybe you might need to try a smaller resolution
[17:34] <jrib> Horusofoz: erm, I meant to just point you at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X
[17:34] <kepi> am gone
[17:35] <Wheat-Thin> flubber try using 16bit
[17:35] <flubber> ok
[17:35] <Horusofoz> I'm pretty sure it's the xorg file but I don't know how to access and edit it
[17:36] <Jester> hiall
[17:36] <Wheat-Thin> hi
[17:36] <Davide> jrib, cjb_ie, still shows up as being flash 9... I"m sure the process was terminated before I started firefox back up
[17:36] <jrib> Horusofoz: read closely what I said.  If you choose to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (just use a text editor), you must add the appropriate option so that it gets used for input devicse (search « man xorg.conf » for "HAL")
[17:37] <jrib> Davide: how are you installing it?
[17:37] <Gurkan`> could anyone help me with a problem concerning the latest nvidia drivers? when i update the drivers to the latest version (180) im told to restart. i do that and after i log in i get to a black screen. but i hear everything starting as usual. i rebooted and changed session to terminal, and from there i started IRC
[17:37] <Davide> just going to the adobe website, clicking on the .deb file and installing the package jrib
[17:37] <tsLight> is there something similar to fish:// in KDE, so that I can do file transfer with remote host using SSH?
[17:37] <xipi> hi
[17:37] <jrib> Davide: uninstall the other versions you have then
[17:38] <grawity> tsLight: sftp://
[17:38] <Wheat-Thin> tsLight: you can try using winscp
[17:38] <Gurkan`> could anyone help me with a problem concerning the latest nvidia drivers? when i update the drivers to the latest version (180) im told to restart. i do that and after i log in i get to a black screen. but i hear everything starting as usual. i rebooted and changed session to terminal, and from there i started IRC
[17:39] <xipi> when i open a flash video in firefox or epiphany, there is no sound. when i use another user account or the guest account, it works perfect. what is wrong?
[17:39] <jrib> !away > felix_da_catz
[17:39] <cjb_ie> if anyone could advise as to why using apport to get an X backtrace as suggested at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing results in apport-cli reporting "no crash reports" after a crash, i'd be very grateful
[17:39] <xipi> it seems like, there is some setting, which is messed up
[17:39] <icqn> Gurkan`, uninstall nvidia-glx-180
[17:39] <batistet> i would like some information about a web editor for creating web pages in ubuntu. is there any available?
[17:39] <tsLight> grawity, thanks, sftp works
[17:40] <Wheat-Thin> batistet: maybe scream
[17:40] <felipe__> hi
[17:40] <icqn> Gurkan`, and install the previous working version nvidia-glx-170 or what ever
[17:40] <CaMason> hi guys. I've got a problem after upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 - My touchpad isn't working
[17:40] <Gurkan`> icqn, i did, and installed the previous driver (177). when i boot with that i get few errors, and i can only start in low graphics
[17:40] <xipi> any idea regarding my flash problem?
[17:40] <jrib> CaMason: #ubuntu+1
[17:41] <CaMason> jrib, thanks
[17:41] <felipe__> I have problems with wine fonts. In Mathematica the toolbar everything is ok but when i try to write sth it uses a greek font
[17:41] <felipe__> any idea?
[17:41] <jrib> felipe__: can't you run mathematica natively on linux?
[17:41] <felipe__> I dunno
[17:41] <felipe__> I don't think so
[17:41] <jrib> felipe__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mathematica.
[17:42] <cjb_ie> felipe__: the install media should have a linux version. you'll need to get a separate key for it.
[17:42] <yellabs> hi there
[17:42] <icqn> Gurkan`, i will be a lesson for you, that if everything is working awesome, do not change it, what have you install with (nvidia-glx), what other packages?
[17:42] <Davide> jrib, histo, cjb_ie, THanks very much, the plugin works, and I now get FULL SCREEN!! Much Appreciated!!!
[17:42] <cjb_ie> but in my experience, wolfram are quite happy to provide a key for both windows and linux versions to run on the same machine.
[17:42] <icqn> Gurkan`, i -> it
[17:43] <felipe__> anyway, mathematica is just an example, it happens the same with, say, age of empires. I'd like to fix this problem.
[17:43] <LedGuardian> i'm trying to install the latest nvidia driver, but when i enter sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.44-pkg1.run into the command prompt, it tells me i can't open it
[17:43] <batistet> Wheat-Thin: is scream a web editor i can download with synaptic?
[17:43] <Gurkan`> icqn, this is my first use of ubuntu, so it never worked awesome ;) havent really installed anything else
[17:43] <LedGuardian> i've downloaded the file, so what's going on?
[17:43] <whax> techkbila
[17:43] <yellabs> is it true that some packages are not updated in 8.04 , i am reffering to solfege packege, wich in debian repos is newer and, more important is working better...
[17:43] <whax> tekchbila
[17:43] <jrib> !sru | yellabs
[17:43] <Gurkan`> Icqn, except the update of course
[17:44] <yellabs> gnu -solfege
[17:44] <gauravkittz> im using ubuntu on aspire one. everythings gr8 but when i play anything i hear a background noise. can sm1 help me please
[17:44] <eegore> what is the reason I would have blocked updates
[17:44] <icqn> Gurkan`, have you uninstalled nvidia-180-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[17:44] <jrib> eegore: pastebin
[17:44] <icqn> Gurkan`, nvidia-180-modaliases - Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org driver
[17:44] <zilleplus> my ftp-server only works local how can i let it work on m Wan address i have ubuntu server 8.10
[17:45] <felipe__> Is there any font package or configuration I should perfome after installing wine, because some applications use a greek font.
[17:45] <Gurkan`> icqn: no i havent uninstalled any of them
[17:45] <torn> Where does Brasero store the checksum file (to check the integrity of a disc?)
[17:45] <jrib> felipe__: maybe someone in #winehq knows more about how fonts work in wine
[17:45] <Gurkan`> (yet)
[17:45] <torn> Whenever I enable that plugin, it does not ask me where to save the checksum file.
[17:45] <icqn> Gurkan`, or better, once you are in the low mode resolution, go to the System ->Hardware->System Drivers menu
[17:45] <felipe__> jrib:thx
[17:46] <Gurkan`> icqn: okay then, gotto reboot to low mode
[17:46] <Gurkan`> brb
[17:46] <kirb> how do i fix my dns? i can ping 8.15.228.161   but not google.com
[17:46] <torn> I checked in ~/.confg/brasero but could not find the checksum file.
[17:47] <histo> kirb: edit your /etc/resolv.conf
[17:47] <Flannel> !nickspam > Dynamic|Nope
[17:47] <histo> kirb: thats there your nameservers are set
[17:47] <eegore> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d4c039e6
[17:47] <kirb> histo, i though it was generated for me on the fly
[17:47] <histo> kirb: it shoudl be bu perhaps its wrong or your DNS went down
[17:47] <histo> kirb: you can try using 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2  should work for now.
[17:48] <jrib> eegore: to the channel (include your command and your sources.list)
[17:49] <Horusofoz> jrib: I got it going :) It's using that Xconfig thing which I think is supposed to be redundant now but it's working :)
[17:49] <sula> hi
[17:49] <eegore> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m75fdc2c0
[17:50] <jrib> !jaunty | eegore
[17:50] <kirb> histo, after editing the file do i have to restart anything?
[17:50] <histo> kirb: nope as long as the new ones are on the top they should be working
[17:51] <histo> kirb: by on the top I mean above the bad ones
[17:51] <sula> hello
[17:51] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys, i have a simple question. if i compile somthing using "checkinstall" command, and the file become deb package. so the question is, if can i save the DEB package and install it to another pc?
[17:51] <kirb> histo, that worked. possibility these were added when i created a vpn connection?
[17:51] <sula> hi
[17:51] <sula> whats up
[17:51] <sula> i'm new here
[17:51] <erUSUL> !hi
[17:51] <sula> thanks
[17:51] <histo> kirb: the bad ones? that could be.
[17:51] <kirb> histo, also how did you know 4.2.2.1?
[17:52] <mrwes> !ask | sula
[17:52] <kirb> histo, i connected to my vpn and the resolv.conf just was overwritten
[17:52] <histo> kirb: its a level 3 dns server. They are free to use and easy to remember. basically anything 4.2.2.1  through 4.2.2.6  They aren't the fastest but they are reliable.  They're actually faster than my isp's so i use them with my own Bind 9 cacing server.
[17:52] <Gurkan`> icqn: im in now, but the strange thing is that i got no errors this time
[17:52] <blue112> Hello everyone, where can I get help with sshfs ?
[17:52] <Gurkan`> gonna check nvida-settings
[17:52] <kirb> histo: good to know
[17:53] <histo> kirb: so the resolv.conf doens't change back when you disconnect fromt he vpn?
[17:54] <jerasimos> quit
[17:54] <kirb> histo: nope the names servers stick
[17:54] <histo> kirb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/90681
[17:54] <xubean> hi guys, can anybody help me? When I load up any webpage it takes a long time for the page to start loading. I've tried it with both firefox and opera, and it's even slower in opera... any help?
[17:54] <histo> kirb: it looks like they may change back when the dhcp is renewed
[17:54] <Gurkan`> icqn: cant change resolution or access the nvidia-settings, tells me that i dont have nvida-xorg running and tells me to run nvidia-xconfig. when i do that i get a runtime error
[17:55] <ogre> hey all, my audio is glitching right now anyway to restart audio without rebooting?
[17:55] <icqn> Gurkan`, video driver is a thing you never want to update if it fulfills you needs, that is why there is three of them available 173, 177, 180 or even more...
[17:55] <histo> xubean: possibly a dns problem?  try in a terminal dig www.google.com
[17:55] <Gurkan`> validation error*
[17:56] <Gurkan`> icqn: i had to, else i  couldnt change the screen resolution as i updated the drivers exactly after i did the first update.
[17:56] <xi_> just stoping in
[17:56] <icqn> Gurkan`, goto System Administration  Hardware  Drivers menu and select the driver from there, install it and reboot
[17:56] <kirb> histo: so for now i have to change this file manually?
[17:56] <xubean> hista: thanks for ur response.. i did try in terminal i get a response about a second later
[17:56] <histo> kirb: well there are some fixes listed on the bug
[17:56] <iGmail> How to ignore the login or leave messages in IRC with pidgin?
[17:56] <xubean> hista: what should i be expecting?
[17:56] <kirb> histo: oh oops k
[17:56] <Gurkan`> icqn: it was from there i choose the 180 version so i could change resolution and run dualmonitor
[17:56] <mrwes> o/ icqn
[17:57] <Gurkan`> but if i do that again im right back at the beginning
[17:57] <xubean> histo: sorry i sent you a message with the name hista, i thought it was an 'a'..  thanks for ur response.. i did try in terminal i get a response about a second later.  what should i be expecting?
[17:57] <histo> xubean: what is the query time ?
[17:57] <xubean> histo: 35 ms
[17:58] <histo> xubean: well thats not the problem then hrm..
[17:59] <xipi> DreamThief: das hat leider nichts gebracht
[17:59] <xipi> DreamThief: hast du noch eine idee
[17:59] <xubean> histo: no, i didn't think so either.. i mean it happens with opera and firefox, i have another laptop (with ubuntu and windows) and also a mac using the router and they are ok...
[18:00] <xipi> DreamThief: sorry. i meant to say: your tip didn't work. have you got another idea?
[18:01] <Res2216firestar> Hi, whenever I try to enter my password to install software, it says it is incorrect even though it is correct, I wrote it down, what's going on?
[18:01] <joobaby> Hi, I am having trouble watching any Internet videos with firefox on my ubuntu box
[18:01] <joobaby> any advice?
[18:02] <xubean> histo: any other suggestions?
[18:02] <xubean> joobaby: does it say you need to install a flash player?
[18:02] <joobaby> no it just doesnt work
[18:02] <joobaby> i got updated flash and real player
[18:02] <joobaby> my friend thought it might be a problem with adobe flash
[18:03] <xubean> joobaby: so the page loads, with the flash showing up, but it doesn't starts?
[18:03] <joobaby> like if i try to watch something on youtube or nbc.com it just says done at the bottm
[18:03] <joobaby> right
[18:03] <xubean> joobaby: did you try in different browsers?
[18:03] <joobaby> no whats a good alternative browser for ubuntu?
[18:03] <felixsulla> When does the next version of Ubuntu come out? Will it come with FireFox3 and Oo3 by default?
[18:04] <erUSUL> joobaby: epiphany
[18:04] <xubean> joobaby: well if you're using gnome, there's epiphany, or for kde konquerer, or there's also opera which i like a lot
[18:04] <Danish989> hey, everyone
[18:04] <Res2216firestar> felixsulla: I would think so, it comes out in 12 days.
[18:05] <joobaby> thanks ill try epiphany
[18:05] <felixsulla> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu natively on my Lenovo SL300 instead of just as a VM.
[18:05] <Danish989> can't wait for the new ubuntu =D
[18:05] <Dykam> deany, remember you tried to help me with apache? Got it to work by placing the rules in... /sites-enabled/<congigfile>
[18:06] <xubean> hi guys, can anybody help me? When I load up any webpage it takes a long time for the page to start loading. I've tried it with both firefox and opera, and it's even slower in opera... any help?
[18:06] <Res2216firestar> felixsulla: If you have windows, try wubi: http://wubi-installer.org/
[18:06] <felixsulla> Res2216firestar: I'm thinking i shoudl wait for the next version, since its coming so soon?
[18:07] <Res2216firestar> felixsulla: You can if you want, or just update when it comes out.
[18:07] <felixsulla> I've read reviews of Linux on the SL300, the only thing that worries me is issues with the wirless conecction.
[18:07] <felixsulla> And apparently the fingerprint reader doesnt work, but I guess I dont care about that.
[18:08] <felixsulla> I'm *really* sick of Vista not loading about 1/5th of the time.
[18:08] <deany> Dykam, ahh.  thats the file i always use...
[18:08] <gokhan> id
[18:08] <kirb> histo: thanks for everything .. for now ill just write a quick perl script to add that line at the top whenever im done vpn-ing...  you rock sir
[18:08] <gokhan> selam millet
[18:09] <xubean> felixsulla: usually wireless works without much problems, i dont' know why ppl keep saying that, but i've never had a problem.. may u'd like to wait for the latest release of ubuntu 9.04 april 30th or something like that
[18:09] <youngmusic> Hey, this should be very simple, but i don't get it :-( I tried to mount an old ntfs partition and the prompt says: fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy. Normally i'd think the partition is mounted elsewhere, but that is not the case.
[18:10] <felixsulla> xubean: That's what I was thinking. My understanding is that Ubuntu is getting much better at working on a range of laptops as time goes on. I guess I'll just load it next to Vista just in case it doesnt work.
[18:11] <xubean> felixsulla: yeah, you can either reboot, or you could use the live cd to first check whether wireless works or not in your particular laptop, without first installing. you do knwo about live cds or even better live usb drives now, don't you?
[18:11] <felixsulla> I know about live cd's, I have one for 8.10, but live usb i assume is the same on a USB drive? Where do you get the live USB?
[18:12] <Steeley> you can create one in Intrepid, using the USB Disk Creator in the Administration menu
[18:12] <Steeley> the only difference between the two is you can reserve some space on the USB disk for documents and such
[18:13] <xubean> felixsulla: yes, it's a USB drive, i won't go into all the details about creating a live USB, there Steeley just gave you the way also, but to test things out live cd works just fine i think.. esp. cause u haven't installed ubuntu yet..
[18:13] <QpSmiley> Hello I have a problem I'm trying to use my TV as a monitor but I think the output of my PC isnt outputting to the Svideo cord im using.... can anyone help me?
[18:13] <xubean> i gotta run for a bit, gf calling for lunch! :)
[18:13] <felixsulla> I think I'll wait for the next version to drop, then test it on a live USB, then.
[18:13] <felixsulla> I assume you just need to set your BIOS to read from the USB first?
[18:13] <hemanth> !motu
[18:15] <youngmusic> !ntfsmount
[18:16] <acr0nym> hello I have a quick question
[18:16] <acr0nym> i just downloaded the dvd iso of jaunty jackalope, used netbootin to put it on my usb
[18:17] <acr0nym> stick
[18:17] <acr0nym> and it boots fine...however I'm not able to install jaunty...it keeps looking for internet/online archives to get the files
[18:17] <acr0nym> pretty sure all the files are on the usb stick since I downloaded the dvd version
[18:17] <QpSmiley> Hello I have a problem I'm trying to use my TV as a monitor but I think the output of my PC isnt outputting to the Svideo cord im using.... can anyone help me?
[18:18] <duxbarak> i can play and rip dvd5's just fine, but not dvd9's. any help?
[18:18] <acr0nym> also I remember with 8.10 I could boot into live first and then install, how do I do this with jaunty?
[18:18] <joobaby> hey, I am unable to watch internet videos like youtube or nbc.com with firefox and epiphany, any advice?
[18:18] <joobaby> I have update ubuntu, real player, and flash
[18:18] <acr0nym> hah, so many questions and not enough people to answer them :)
[18:18] <acr0nym> joobaby do you get any error?
[18:18] <joobaby> negative
[18:18] <joobaby> and there can never be enough questions
[18:18] <youngmusic> acr0nym: you'll have more luck on the ubuntu+1 channel if you want to ask about jaunty
[18:19] <acr0nym> ah thanks youngmusic
[18:19] <acr0nym> sorry joobaby have no idea
[18:19] <QpSmiley> !juanty
[18:19] <QpSmiley> !jaunty
[18:19] <juancape> ok excuse my english... hello i tried to install ubuntu 8.10 but after load i only get a black screen
[18:19] <ubuntistas> hi how can i install adobe reader bin?
[18:19] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[18:20] <blue112> It's available for linux, ubuntistas ?
[18:20] <blue112> ubuntistas: For reading pdf, there's many free tools.
[18:20] <juancape> somebody knows how install ubuntu if i have ati radeon x1200
[18:20] <ubuntistas> yeah blue112
[18:20] <unop> ubuntistas, install the acroread package from the medibuntu repos#
[18:20] <juancape> i simply can't see the desktop
[18:21] <unop> !medibuntu > ubuntistas
[18:21] <ubuntistas> unop i want to install adobe reader because i want to download some books and read it with that because the site requires this software
[18:21] <Brucevdk> juancape: I just in the channel, can you repeat your question?
[18:21] <Brucevdk> came*
[18:22] <joobaby> I cant watch any internet videos actually but video works off the HDD
[18:22] <juancape> zzzzzzzzzzzz somebody who knows about ati and ubuntu
[18:23] <unop> ubuntistas, yes, the acrobat reader package is available from medibuntu .. you'll need to enable the medibuntu repository first before you can install the package
[18:23] <ubuntistas> unop i have already enabled it
[18:23] <youngmusic> is there away to disable those messages about who enters and leaves the chatroom, in Pidgin? Quite annoying with this many people
[18:23] <ubuntistas> can i go to software package now unop?
[18:23] <unop> ubuntistas, ok. then use the package manager and install the acroread package
[18:23] <MFen> can anyone offer some help on working with xev?
[18:24] <MFen> sorry, i meant evdev/hal
[18:24] <MFen> i'm trying to figure out how you even debug the thing or know what it is that hal is doing
[18:24] <hemanth> ubuntistas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:24] <MFen> i've set up a policy fdi for my synaptics touchpad and it doesn't seem to be doing *anything*
[18:25] <MFen> i don't know how to restart hal, or find out whether hal sees my device
[18:25] <ubuntistas> wow unop 100 mb software
[18:25] <ubuntistas> that's stoo much
[18:25] <MFen> well, lshal shows the device but i can't tell if any of the fdi files are being read
[18:25] <QpSmiley> How do i change my screen output on Intrepid?
[18:26] <hemanth> ubuntistas: http://packages.medibuntu.org/
[18:26] <ubuntistas> hemanth  thx i know about that
[18:26] <kruuth> could someone give me a hand with my raid?  I've got a SiI 3114 chipset card, and the raid device is configured in windows as a raid1.  I'd like to be able to read/write to this in ubuntu.  I'm running 8.10 x86
[18:26] <hemanth> ubuntistas: ok :)
[18:26] <unop> ubuntistas, hmm, 100MB is indeed a lot.. it should only be about 25MB
[18:27] <unop> ubuntistas, what other packages are being included?
[18:27] <ubuntistas> never mind unop i am downloading it now
[18:27] <ubuntistas> unop 7 other packages i dunno
[18:29] <BigMack83_> i figured how to connect to my remote server via ssh from the console, but how can i authenticate as my server requires an authentication key (which i do have)
[18:29] <ubuntistas> unop i canceles it and iam downloading it from the site of medibuntu which is a smaller package
[18:30] <kruuth> i've got mdadm already installed
[18:31] <ubuntistas> is any problem if i cancel the downloading?
[18:32] <icanhaz> how do i know what is my ip number?
[18:32] <picca> i have managed to get Ubuntu 8.10 fully working on a Philips Freevent X55 by passing the right kernel params during installation, reconfiguring the kernel source, and tweaking the xorg.conf ... does anyone know if there is a place (e.g. a ubuntu forum) where i can host these instructions for the benefit of others who have the same laptop wanting to try ubuntu?
[18:33] <cataisa> hola a todosa
[18:33] <kruuth> ubuntu forums picca?
[18:33] <cataisa> tengo un problema en ubuntu
[18:33] <BigMack83_> icanhaz, http://whatismyip.com/
[18:33] <cataisa> alguien ke me pueda ayudar en privado para poder entrar en terra chat con ubuntu
[18:33] <MFen> icanhaz: http://whatsmyip.org
[18:33] <picca> kruuth, well anywhere to be honest but somewhere where the instructions can be easily found - wasn't sure if there was somewhere obvious or if i would have to host this myself
[18:34] <saxidar> ciao a tutti
[18:34] <icanhaz> thanks guys
[18:34] <QpSmiley> evans@evans-desktop:~$ xrandr --addmode S-video 800x600
[18:34] <QpSmiley> xrandr: cannot find output "S-video"
[18:34] <QpSmiley> ummm
[18:34] <QpSmiley> what should i do?
[18:34] <QpSmiley> S-video should be an output
[18:34] <unanxbt> i have accidentally deleted a file, how can i recover it?
[18:35] <kruuth> don't all respond at once
[18:35] <icqn> unanxbt, how have you deleted it
[18:36] <unanxbt> icqn, i didn't know that it was in trash and i emptyed the trash
[18:37] <youngmusic> anyone know what to try if an ntfs mount fails with 'Device or resource busy' and you're sure it's not mounted?
[18:37] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> is kubuntu better than fedora10 kde?
[18:37] <ubuntun00b10997> guys
[18:38] <ubuntun00b10997> I have a problem that should be easy to fix
[18:38] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: interesting question
[18:38] <ubuntun00b10997> but I can't do it myself
[18:38] <ubuntun00b10997> I need help
[18:38] <eseven73> unanxbt, you could try photorec It recovers a lot more than just photos, some reason I don't see it in the repos but maybe theres a .deb for it somewhere
[18:38] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: KDE4 will be  similar in  both
[18:38] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> ah
[18:38] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: and I prefer Kubuntu KDE3 :)  ,but you can't just get that
[18:38] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> lol yeah kde3
[18:39] <unanxbt> eseven73, i deleted a .vob file (a dvd file)
[18:39] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> i miss the good ol days
[18:39] <kruuth> again, does anyone know how I can mount an existing windoze raid1 in linux?
[18:39] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf:  well you can still have it and KDE4 if you well  figure out how to have them both working well together, or virtual machine  8.04 for KDE3
[18:39] <ubuntun00b10997> I have an atheros 5007eg wireless card, and I can't connect wirelessly to my router
[18:39] <eseven73> unanxbt, well like I said search around for photorec, it might be able to recover that file
[18:39] <ubuntun00b10997> Madwifi won't let me wget the stuff
[18:39] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: sadly they have stopped making KDE3, but even so I think it should have been an option in the repo for 8.10 and 9.04, but no
[18:40] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> i use f10
[18:40] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: heh what are you doing here then?
[18:40] <unanxbt> eseven73, ok, lemme check
[18:40] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: by the way the actsaul kubuntu  channel is #kubuntu
[18:40] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> asking if im missing something because im not using kubuntu :)
[18:40] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> ahhhhhhh
[18:40] <rubberducky> can i configure the gnome network applet to only use 1 out of my 2 wireless adapters?
[18:40] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> sorry didnt know that
[18:40] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: ,but can talk about KDE here to
[18:41] <dumdumz> can someone help me please? I have no menu.lst and stuck at the grub command line when trying to boot
[18:41] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: well how much computer does your ram have? ,because if you got enough you can  virtual machine Kubuntu and try for yourself
[18:41] <rubberducky> i use my second one for metwork pentesting on my own network, but the networking applet always connects it to my network
[18:41] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> sebastien, 760 mb
[18:41] <ubuntun00b10997> How do I make my atheros wirelessss card driver from windows vista work in Ubuntu 8.10?
[18:41] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: ok you can virtual machine with that
[18:41] <unop> rubberducky, configure /etc/network/interfaces to take control of the interface you don't want nm-applet to
[18:41] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: want to try Kubuntu?
[18:41] <icqn> sdfasdfasdfsadf, it will be damn slow
[18:41] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: both versions?  KDE3 and KDE4?
[18:42] <stickboy> hey. anyone know if it's possible to have dual monitor with svideo?
[18:42] <rubberducky> unop, do i just add wlan1 to that list?
[18:42] <kruuth> yes stickboy but it looks like complete and utter rubbish
[18:42] <tarik> меня видно?
[18:42] <ubuntun00b10997> ...........
[18:43] <unop> rubberducky, pretty much .. but there's a format in which you do that.  see the interfaces(5) manpage.  i.e.  man 5 interfaces
[18:43] <stickboy> kruuth, damn. wanted to use svideo out to my hdtv but i guess not. i guess simple vga would be better.
[18:43] <ubuntun00b10997> Can anyone help me with my driver problems??
[18:43] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: what kind of driver problem?
[18:43] <icqn> tarik, yes
[18:43] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> sebsebseb, no thanks im happy with fedora
[18:43] <kruuth> svideo is extremely low resolution when compared to vga
[18:43] <ubuntun00b10997> I can't make my atheros work
[18:43] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: don't you understand what a virtual machine is?
[18:43] <kruuth> use vga
[18:43] <ubuntun00b10997> because madwifi won't let me download though terminal
[18:44] <ubuntun00b10997> and I have no clue about this stuff
[18:44] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: it will let you run  Kubuntu inside Fedora
[18:44] <rubberducky> unop, and then nm-applet will ignore them?
[18:44] <stickboy> ok, thanks kruuth.
[18:44] <ubuntun00b10997> Right now I', wired straight to my modem
[18:44] <unop> rubberducky, yes
[18:44] <ChrisHerlein> Hello!
[18:44] <macman_> guys i have 3 vobs i want to burn to dvd .. any command line way to do this ?
[18:44] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> sebsebseb, yeah i know that, im lazy
[18:44] <sebsebseb> ChrisHerlein: hi
[18:44] <kruuth> any chance you know how to help me with my raid issue?
[18:44] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: well  setting up a virtual machine does not take long
[18:44] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: and is rather simple to do
[18:44] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> i know
[18:45] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> i dont feel like doing so
[18:45] <tp_> Is it possible to determine that a swap partition must be completely used before a second be used? I want this because my first partition is a fast flash memory stick and the second is a file in a XFS fs. Thanks
[18:45] <ChrisHerlein> Someone knows that where can i download xubuntu screensavers?
[18:45] <kruuth> obtw, svideo maxes at 576i in pal but that's it
[18:45] <sebsebseb> ChrisHerlein: I don't think there are any screensavers for Xubuntu,  or as such
[18:45] <sebsebseb> sdfasdfasdfsadf: I started with Fedora Core 2 by the way
[18:45] <rubberducky> unop, if i add auto wlan1 and i take out en put the adapter back in, nm-applet still controls it?
[18:45] <ChrisHerlein> Ok, thankyou
[18:46] <rubberducky> do i need to restart the system?
[18:46] <ubuntun00b10997> Can I run a website straight from my laptop without having to pay for anything provided my network is configured correctly?
[18:46] <Steeley> yes
[18:46] <ubuntun00b10997> Cool.
[18:46] <unop> rubberducky, nm-applet will ignore any interfaces specified in the interfaces file. you might have to restart the networking and network-manager services.
[18:46] <icqn> sdfasdfasdfsadf, in my opinion the best kde support and look is in opensuse
[18:46] <kruuth> yes you can
[18:47] <othellix> help
[18:47] <kruuth> you can run a site off a laptop
[18:47] <Floops[w]> how can i get ipaddress static from the terminal
[18:47] <ubuntun00b10997> file server too?
[18:47] <kruuth> yes
[18:47] <stefan_> hello
[18:47] <kruuth> look up dynamic dns
[18:47] <stefan_> everybody
[18:47] <ubuntun00b10997> okay
[18:47] <ubuntun00b10997> I'll go look ity up
[18:47] <unop> Floops, ifconfig
[18:47] <othellix> why can copy more 4gb om my hard
[18:48] <clonercloner> sdfasdfasdfsadf: yeah I hear opensuse with kde4 is pretty good. However I am now using kubuntu jaunty with kde 4.2.2 and I am really impressed and loving it
[18:48] <sdfasdfasdfsadf> icqn, i agree with you, but you need a nice computer to run opensuse, it likes eating my ram :)
[18:48] <meoblast001> hi
[18:48] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: you can, but your lap top isn't really server hardware
[18:48] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: it wasn't desigend to be left on all the time
[18:48] <meoblast001> how do you download a deb with apt-get... i want to download it to the working directory
[18:48] <ubuntun00b10997> What about a desktop?
[18:48] <emagmant> Im curios to see how many ppl are doing a clean install of 9.04 or a distribution upgrade?
[18:48] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: same thing for the standard desktop
[18:48] <ubuntun00b10997> So I need a server system?
[18:48] <ubuntun00b10997> D:
[18:48] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: probably better running it on the lap top then the desktop though
[18:49] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: no you don't need server hardware
[18:49] <ubuntun00b10997> It's possible, thoughm isn;t it?
[18:49] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: just  your lap top  or  desktop may work for longer, if it's not left on all the time
[18:49] <eseven73> just get Ubuntu server edition
[18:49] <sebsebseb> !lamp | ubuntun00b10997:
[18:49] <sebsebseb> eseven73: no he can run LAMP in the desktop editition :)
[18:49] <icqn> sdfasdfasdfsadf, yes, that is also true. 768 is on limit
[18:49] <eseven73> server edition has a different kernel
[18:50] <icqn> sdfasdfasdfsadf, use gnone then, it will be faster
[18:50] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: of course for a real website, you  still need to pay someone for a domain name, but those are pretty cheap these days  I think
[18:50] <ubuntun00b10997> what about
[18:50] <ubuntun00b10997> wait
[18:50] <ubuntun00b10997> by domain name, do you mean url?
[18:50] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: yes
[18:50] <ubuntun00b10997> Cause I could just get a co.nr
[18:50] <kruuth> once again, can someone give me a hand with getting my windows raid1 on a SiI 3114 going?
[18:51] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: what's nr?
[18:51] <ubuntun00b10997> hold on
[18:51] <ubuntun00b10997> http://www.freedomain.co.nr/
[18:51] <ubuntun00b10997> free domain, sire.
[18:51] <sebsebseb> eseven73: diffenret kernel, so one that is better for servers?
[18:51] <eseven73> yes
[18:51] <eseven73> more geared toward server stuff
[18:51] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: ok  Ubuntu server edition,  if your only going to use that computer to host a website
[18:52] <ubuntun00b10997> now
[18:52] <eseven73> and you can put a lightweight window manager on it like fluxbox
[18:52] <ubuntun00b10997> could you gutys help with my driver
[18:52] <sebsebseb> eseven73: saying this in the suppourt channel may be a bit bad, but not many people run Ubuntu servers,   Debian and Redhat and so on, but Ubuntu, nah
[18:52] <eseven73> thats why you install fluxbox on it silly
[18:53] <sebsebseb> eseven73: well  people don't even need a GUI, if they know what they are doing properly :d
[18:53] <jakedp> ubuntu server kernel is configured nicely for server though and don' t have the bloat with server dition you do with red hat
[18:53] <ubuntun00b10997> why is everyone so reluctant to answer my driver questions?
[18:53] <eseven73> well he sounds kind of new for not having any GUI at all
[18:54] <Gnea> !patience | ubuntun00b10997
[18:54] <emagmant> man but you wan't a gui when working with VMs because guest additions don't work well with the console
[18:54] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: what driver issue?
[18:54] <QpSmiley> Hey I need to use my TV as a monitor for my PC Im using Svideo outputs and I cant seem to make it work ... I'm using 8.10 intrepid can anyone help me pls?
[18:54] <emagmant> QpSmiley: What graphics card do you have
[18:54] <QpSmiley> NVIDIA 6150SE nForce 430
[18:55] <ubuntistas> icannot open this type of filees ebx.etd with acroreader in ubuntu 8.10 any clue?
[18:55] <emagmant> QpSmiley: do you have Nvidia settings in the administration panel?
[18:56] <QpSmiley> NVIDIA X server settings
[18:56] <emagmant> QpSmiley: Are you running it as root?
[18:56] <QpSmiley> im the only user on my system so i think so
[18:57] <unko> whats the command to list my hardware...i forgot it again...
[18:57] <ubuntun00b10997> seb: I have an atheros and I am unable to connect to a wireless network(running ubuntu 8.10) I could not download madwifi
[18:57] <GRuB_one> yeah i want it too
[18:58] <cjb_ie> that guy got it wrong. love like you need the money, dance like you've been hurt, and work like nobody's watching
[18:58] <emagmant> QpSmiley: Does it prompt for a password because the default behaviour does not run as root
[18:58] <icqn> unko, what hardware? lspci, lshw?
[18:58] <QpSmiley> it just ran
[18:58] <QpSmiley> no password
[18:58] <meoblast001> how do you download a deb to the working directory with APT?
[18:59] <unko> icqn, lshw thank you!
[18:59] <emagmant> QpSmiley: Try running as root.. by configuring your menu and finding the shortcut for Nvidia X settings and adding the prefix of "gksu "
[18:59] <emagmant> to the command
[18:59] <ubuntistas> i am unable to open this type of filees ebx.etd with acroreader in ubuntu 8.10 any clue? unop
[18:59] <QpSmiley> how do i run as root?
[19:00] <Takmadeus> greetings, i need help with ekiga
[19:00] <emagmant> QpSmiley: try running the command "gksu nvidia-settings"
[19:00] <arussel> I am looking for a picture manager that would store everything in the same configurable place (pictures + db)
[19:00] <Takmadeus> I keep getting a "fallo en el registro: retardo" error
[19:01] <emagmant> QpSmiley: Im not on my ubuntu box so I dont know if its a different case
[19:01] <Takmadeus> dunno which error it is in english
[19:01] <QpSmiley> okay pass came up and now im in
[19:01] <emagmant> k
[19:01] <Takmadeus> so I cannot connect to ekiga
[19:01] <emagmant> Now goto X server config and click detect displays
[19:01] <Takmadeus> any ideas on how to solve this?
[19:01] <emagmant> make sure your Svideo cable is plugged in to your tv
[19:01] <Sylphid> hey all, could anyone tell me more about this warning?  ... upgradable but no canidateOrigin?!?:  xchat
[19:01] <QpSmiley> Xserver display Config?
[19:02] <emagmant> QpSmiley: find the part that has a picture of your monitor
[19:02] <ubuntistas> i am unable to open this type of filees ebx.etd with acroreader in ubuntu 8.10 any clue?
[19:02] <ubuntistas> ?
[19:02] <QpSmiley> yea thats it
[19:02] <emagmant> QpSmiley: and allows you to change and move it around
[19:02] <Takmadeus> help with ekga please
[19:02] <Takmadeus> prettu please
[19:02] <emagmant> QpSmiley: when you detect displays does it show your tv?
[19:02] <s0u][ight> !nvidia
[19:02] <QpSmiley> no ....
[19:03] <QpSmiley> one second sister shut off the TV
[19:03] <emagmant> QpSmiley: is it plugged in?
[19:03] <QpSmiley> okay TV on
[19:03] <jtgiri> hi guys I was wondering how I can stop just gnome without restarting the server ?
[19:03] <QpSmiley> i think it is lemme check
[19:04] <twolane> jtgiri: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:04] <QpSmiley> okay yea its plugged in
[19:04] <eseven73> sebsebseb, heres more info on how Ubuntu server's kernel differs from Desktop kernels http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/kernel
[19:04] <sebsebseb> eseven73: ok thanks
[19:04] <unop> ubuntistas, hmm, i found this which may help you - http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=21459
[19:04] <eseven73> np
[19:05] <jtgiri> twolane: thanks
[19:05] <twolane> jtgiri: sure
[19:05] <arussel> I want the picture manager to not copy the image, just   work with  the images in a folder and possibly keep its configuration files/db in that folder too
[19:05] <emagmant> QpSmiley: And it still doesn't detect?
[19:05] <QpSmiley> nope
[19:05] <emagmant> !paste | QpSmiley
[19:06] <QpSmiley> what should i pastebin?
[19:06] <emagmant> can you use that to paste the out put of the command "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[19:06] <cjb_ie> i'd like a command line app actually that one could use for pastebinning
[19:07] <cjb_ie> e.g. pastebin < /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and it would output your pastebin url
[19:07] <QpSmiley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/149040/
[19:07] <xubean> hey guys, any webpage that i start to load (firefox, opera, swiftfox, konquerer), takes really long to load initially....
[19:07] <xubean> any help would be appreciated :)
[19:07] <Sylphid> hey all, could anyone tell me more about this warning?  ... upgradable but no canidateOrigin?!?:  xchat
[19:08] <emagmant> QpSmiley: You may have to force detection of your TV, i found a howto on the subject here http://mysite.verizon.net/kraussa/nvidia_linux_tv_out.html
[19:09] <cjb_ie> xubean: sounds like a DNS problem. are all the nameservers in your resolv.conf reachable?
[19:09] <cjb_ie> either that, or you have ipv6 enabled and your network or isp don't support it.
[19:09] <ubuntistas> unop i still can't open it
[19:10] <zilleplus> my ftp-server only works local how can i let it work on m Wan address i have ubuntu server 8.10
[19:10] <emagmant> QpSmiley: If you break your display settings running the command "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo nvidia-xconfig" should fix it
[19:10] <ubuntistas> and it says that the file must be downloaded in a windows machine that really suck any support for linux in acroread?
[19:10] <xubean> cjb_ie: someone else suggested that it could be a DNS problem too, but it didn't seem like it when i tried something like "dig www.google.com" from the terminal. how can i check if all the nameservers in resolv.conf are reachable? thanks for responding
[19:11] <peepsalot> if i have the files copied off a DVD video, what can I use to play these?
[19:11] <siro> hello
[19:11] <peepsalot> something that will let me see the menu,etc.
[19:11] <cjb_ie> xubean: if dig at a prompt returns quickly, it's probably the ipv6 issue.
[19:11] <siro> just wanted to know if i can get support ... my text mode doesnot work
[19:12] <xubean> cjb_ie: i remember i did something about that too.. i can't remember exactly what, but i do remember that. is there a way to resolve it? thanks
[19:12] <siro> am currently on ubuntu 8.10
[19:12] <peepsalot> what do you mean text mode doesn't work
[19:12] <siro> after loading X etc,,, i just crtl alt + f1 it wont allow me to go to text mode n my screen flashes
[19:13] <emagmant> siro: Do it twice
[19:13] <h8red> hey all
[19:13] <siro> i need to crtl alt + f7 to go back to gnome
[19:13] <siro> i done it a lot of time :S
[19:13] <emagmant> siro: Your monitor must not support the resolution that your framebuffer is using.
[19:14] <siro> everytime i do install linux >.< graphic problem :(
[19:14] <siro> yeap its an old monitor
[19:14] <siro> how to change the framebuffer ?
[19:14] <h8red> hey anyone know why when i reboot it never saves my monitor refresh rate
[19:14] <emagmant> siro: if you use the startup-configuration (installable from synaptic) you can change the resolution to fit your monitor
[19:14] <h8red> i have nvidia drivers
[19:14] <ubuntistas> unop i still can't open it
[19:14] <ubuntistas> and it says that the file must be downloaded in a windows machine that really suck any support for linux in acroread?
[19:14] <cjb_ie> xubean: i can't remember, but man ip will probably tell you. (probably something like ip addr del eth0 inet6 1234::5678 )
[19:14] <siro> startupconfiguration : /
[19:15] <siro> hmm let me see about it
[19:15] <siro> am just new to it : /
[19:15] <xubean> i'm looking at a help page from ubuntugeek right now, i think i've already done that, i will let you know thanks
[19:15] <emagmant> siro: Im not on my ubuntu box so im going off memory
[19:15] <Scunizi> h8red: run.. sudo nvidia-settings
[19:15] <meoblast001> how do you download a deb to the working directory with APT?
[19:15] <siro> ok i see ...
[19:15] <siro> ok i will try n let kno
[19:16] <siro> i need to go to text mode to install my ati driver
[19:16] <siro> that 's all
[19:16] <ubuntistas> and theres no tab for library any support for type of files like ebx.etd in  acroreader
[19:16] <dumdumz> my grub is really screwed up. ive tried everything i can find and cant fix it. can someone help me
[19:16] <emagmant> k
[19:16] <thenewguy> hi guys, How do i get VLC on ubuntu to play an FLV stream? it gives me a bad codec error
[19:16] <thenewguy> works on my mac
[19:16] <emagmant> meoblast001: try using this http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[19:16] <siro> as my 15 inch > the current default driver says it a 14 inch n windows are outscarles
[19:17] <siro> outscales i cant click on next or continue :S
[19:17] <h8red> doing it that way is better than just clicking the nvidia server icon?
[19:17] <meoblast001> emagmant, it's claiming pcsx-df doesn't go back to gutsy
[19:17] <Scunizi> h8red: yes.. running as sudo for nvidia-settings means that anything that it saves will stick since it's a system setting.
[19:17] <kruuth> ok i figured out I need to use dmraid to get this going, but I want to get this going
[19:17] <h8red> ahh cool
[19:17] <h8red> whats the exact syntax sorry?
[19:18] <h8red> really appreciate it!
[19:18] <Scunizi> h8red: sudo nvidia-settings
[19:18] <h8red> thanks
[19:18] <h8red> :)
[19:18] <siro> gonna try it
[19:18] <Scunizi> h8red: if it doesn't come up then sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[19:18] <ubuntistas> any support for type of files like ebx.etd in acroreader?
[19:18] <alexismedina> hello, there's someone having issues with the new notifications in Jaunty?, today I upgrade my jaunty and ubuntu is showing the old notificationes style (notify-osd 0.9.11-0ubuntu1)
[19:18] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[19:18] <h8red> it came up
[19:18] <h8red> gonna log out and see what happens thanks man
[19:19] <Jeruvy> alexismedina: you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:19] <alexismedina> ok Jeruvy.. thanks
[19:20] <jaska511> Ubuntu is best, all my hardware and toys are working on it, they did not work in Windows.....
[19:20] <Amphrogrammer> hey.. I need some help with ubuntu.
[19:20] <sebsebseb> Amphrogrammer: ok with what?
[19:20] <xubean> cjb_ie: i dont' know if you can help me with this or not, but this is weird, all the help online say that i need to change a line in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, but that file is actually empty.. could you think of something else?
[19:20] <emagmant> !ask
[19:20] <QpSmiley> !ask
[19:20] <Amphrogrammer> I'm dual booting vista and ubuntu 8.04
[19:21] <kruuth> dmraid is working, I can see both drives but how do I get them to mount as 1 drive?
[19:21] <Amphrogrammer> so far its worked perfectly fine
[19:21] <Amphrogrammer> but, now my ubuntu partition refuses to mount
[19:21] <cjb_ie> xubean: no more brilliant ideas from me i'm afraid :(
[19:21] <Amphrogrammer> i tried using grub and that has nothelped.
[19:21] <emagmant> Amphrogrammer: Do you know of any event that triggered this change?
[19:22] <xubean> has anyone else experienced a problem with ubuntu where all the websites are load slowly intially, i checked for DNS issues, and as far as I can tell it's not an ipv6 issue either..
[19:22] <Amphrogrammer> none that I can think of
[19:22] <cjb_ie> xubean: if you like wading through torrents of crap, you could try strace'ing a browser to see it does before the delay happens
[19:22] <h8red> damn
[19:22] <emagmant> Amphrogrammer: does it frop you to busy box? or does it hang?
[19:22] <h8red> refresh rate didn't stick
[19:22] <emagmant> drop*
[19:22] <UbuntuBoy> Hi Ubuntu Comm
[19:23] <Amphrogrammer> it just gives me an "un able to mount partition" statement and brings me back to os selection.
[19:23] <ubuntistas> any support for type of files like ebx.etd in acroreader?
[19:23] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[19:23] <ubuntistas> unop
[19:23] <h8red> do i need to save to the xconfiguration file or something
[19:23] <nibblyn> Amphrogrammer, try with a diskcheck
[19:23] <emagmant> Amphrogrammer: is this grub trying to load the kernel?
[19:24] <Amphrogrammer> not sure.
[19:24] <jaska511> I want to ask (so i ask) will systemevent sounds work in 9.04? etc. error sounds, only login sound and that "blob blob" sounds i can hear. Haven't work since 7.10
[19:24] <emagmant> Amphrogrammer: have you plugged in any new hardrives or flash drives
[19:24] <dumdumz> can someone help me with this please? http://pastebin.com/d493b79cc
[19:24] <UbuntuBoy> I Want to see the best Linux Distrubution For A Old Pc Whit this Configuration Proc 2.4GH Ram 256 Graphique Card 64 mo
[19:24] <Amphrogrammer> nope.
[19:24] <Amphrogrammer> same hard drive and i haven't toyed with the partition set up either
[19:24] <emagmant> Amphrogrammer: Have you changed any bios settings?
[19:24] <UbuntuBoy> I Want to see the best Linux Distrubution For A Old Pc Whit this Configuration Proc 2.4GH Ram 256 Graphique Card 64 mo
[19:25] <h8red> thanks worked!!!!
[19:25] <Jeruvy> !hcl | UbuntuBoy
[19:25] <h8red> what would i type to run the date and time editor to get it to stick?
[19:25] <Amphrogrammer> not to my recollection.. I haven't had any reason to toy with them
[19:25] <ubuntistas> hey guys help
[19:25] <h8red> sudo date&time   ???
[19:25] <ubuntistas> help
[19:25] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[19:25] <emagmant> Amphrogrammer: ok do you have a live cd with you?
[19:25] <ubuntistas> any support for type of files like ebx.etd in acroreader?
[19:25] <UbuntuBoy> Non Non I want to see the best Distrubution for my Old PC
[19:25] <Amphrogrammer> yeah I used the live cd to install it.
[19:26] <sebsebseb> UbuntuBoy: Ubuntu should be able to run on that, but  Puppy Linux and Damn Small Linux are rather good for old PC's
[19:26] <Amphrogrammer> doh'
[19:26] <emagmant> try booting into the live cd and mounting the partition in there. if it works then its a grub misconfiguration
[19:26] <Amphrogrammer> i shoulda thought of that sooner ><
[19:26] <Amphrogrammer> thanks. I'll be back if i have trouble preciate the help.
[19:26] <BilokShem> what is a good p2p for Ubuntu?
[19:26] <dumdumz> can someone help me with this please? http://pastebin.com/d493b79cc
[19:27] <sebsebseb> BilokShem: this is a funny one, because not meant to  help with piracy in this channel, but the bot can,  and I expect your going to pirate something hence wanting P2P
[19:27] <UbuntuBoy> I Don't Want to try Any Other Distrubution i want ubuntu whit an Other Desktop enviroment
[19:27] <nibblyn> Amphrogrammer, try also with a fsck -fv <device>
[19:27] <BilokShem> No
[19:27] <sebsebseb> BilokShem: the bot can say about p2p programs and such yeah
[19:28] <grawity> sebsebseb: P2P isn't entirely a "pirate" technology.
[19:28] <BilokShem> I'm not going to pirate
[19:28] <sebsebseb> grawity: I know
[19:28] <BilokShem> so what
[19:28] <UbuntuBoy> i Think Xfce It's Good For Old PC
[19:28] <BilokShem> is a good p2p for ubuntu
[19:28] <dumdumz> can someone help me fix grub?
[19:28] <sebsebseb> BilokShem: Ktorrent :)
[19:28] <sebsebseb> !grub |  dumdumz
[19:28] <grawity> BilokShem: What exactly do you mean? There are many P2P programs, and there is no "best" one.
[19:28] <emagmant> dumdumz: What is wrong with grub?
[19:28] <sebsebseb> grawity: he said good not best :)
[19:29] <dumdumz> sebsebseb, i tried all that
[19:29] <BilokShem> the most popular, clean and reliable
[19:29] <dumdumz> not working
[19:29] <grawity> !p2p | BilokShem
[19:29] <Jeruvy> !poll | BilokShem
[19:29] <emagmant> dumdumz: More specific? stage errors or can't find partition?
[19:29] <BilokShem> what's a good p2p sharing program for Windows 7
[19:29] <emagmant> dumdumz: Or doesn't even load at all?
[19:29] <dumdumz> emangmant, i get a grub command prompt when trying to boot
[19:30] <dumdumz> i am in the live cd right now
[19:30] <dumdumz> my menu.lst has no boot entries
[19:30] <emagmant> dumdumz: can you ouput the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:30] <emagmant> into pastebin
[19:30] <dumdumz> sure one sec
[19:30] <emagmant> dumdumz: well theres your problem
[19:30] <h8red> i think doing that sudo nvidia-settings broke my terminal
[19:30] <UbuntuBoy> what is the Minimum Config to run Xubuntu
[19:30] <h8red> now when i go to the terminal just a blank white box opens up
[19:31] <h8red> drat
[19:31] <grawity> h8red: Try Ctrl-C in the terminal. Sometimes it helps.
[19:31] <dumdumz> http://pastebin.com/d5447389d
[19:31] <dumdumz> emagmant, i dont know what to put there
[19:31] <emagmant> dumdumz: I have to change locations ill be back in 15 mins.
[19:31] <h8red> is that a pretty common thing grawity?
[19:31] <dumdumz> thought it was supposed to auto detect it
[19:31] <emagmant> dumdumz: only during install
[19:31] <UbuntuBoy> what is the Minimum Config to run Xubuntu
[19:32] <dumdumz> oh
[19:32] <h8red> nope terminal still doesn't work
[19:32] <h8red> crap....that's pretty bad huh
[19:32] <grawity> !requirements | UbuntuBoy
[19:32] <charles_> BilokShem: Transmission :)
[19:33] <UbuntuBoy> Thank'sssssssss
[19:33] <linduxed> is there a keycombo in BASH that clears the line? (the one that im typing)
[19:34] <h8red> can someone tell me how i might get my terminal window back
[19:34] <h8red> it's just a white screen i can't type into
[19:34] <h8red> no menus, buttons, nothing
[19:34] <linduxed> is there a keycombo in BASH that clears the line? (the one that im typing)
[19:34] <TheFuzzball> Is there a channel for Ubuntu Server, or will this channel cover it too?
[19:35] <grawity> linduxed: Try Ctrl-C, and maybe Ctrl-U
[19:35] <UbuntuBoy> i Have Many Questions about linux
[19:35] <linduxed> grawity: U worked thx
[19:35] <Jesdisciple> Using XChat-GNOME...  How do I enter a server domain?
[19:35] <UbuntuBoy> Suse Vs Ubuntu where is the winner
[19:35] <cellofellow> I have a VM with currently two "default" gateways, one 10.0.2.2, and the other 192.168.0.1. Which one will it actually use?
[19:36] <nibblyn> dumdumz, maybe supergrub may help you. it's a quite simple tool to reinstall grub.
[19:36] <Jesdisciple> Using XChat-GNOME...  How do I enter a server domain?
[19:39] <TheFuzzball> I have an Ubuntu Server in a VM that is running an SSH server and LAMP. The network card in the VM is told to replecate an IP on my router (which it does, 192.168.0.14) and when I ping 192.168.0.14 in the VM I get a response, but if I ping it from the host I get no response.
[19:39] <TheFuzzball> Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[19:39] <cellofellow> TheFuzzball➜ which hypervisor?
[19:40] <TheFuzzball> cellofellow: VMWare
[19:40] <unop> TheFuzzball, can the VM ping anything else on that network? the router perhaps?
[19:40] <TheFuzzball> unop: yes, which is what makes it weird.
[19:41] <cellofellow> TheFuzzball➜ maybe #vmware can help
[19:42] <TheFuzzball> cellofellow: don't think it's a VMWare problem, I ran a LAMP server in Ubuntu Desktop on a VM before this and it worked perfectly. It is an Ubuntu Server problem AFAIK
[19:42] <Pupeno> What directory contains runlevel init links? (installing CrashPlan)
[19:42] <unop> TheFuzzball, what mode was the vmware interface put in? bridged/host-to-host/NAT?
[19:42] <h8red> ahhhh
[19:43] <h8red> if anyone has an idea how i can get my terminal window back please help!
[19:43] <TheFuzzball> unop: bridged, with "replicate physical network connection" checked
[19:43] <bthornton> I'm trying to use the Gnome users and groups GUI in a remote session and the Unlock button won't work. Is there any way to work around this?
[19:43] <RedMushroom-AFK> h8red: try ctrl+alt+f7
[19:43] <Pupeno> Does anybody know where are the init links?
[19:43] <unop> Pupeno, /etc/rcX.d/  # X being a number from 1-5 representing the runlevel -- they all point to files in /etc/init.d/
[19:43] <bthornton> it will work on a local/console session, by the way
[19:43] <foureyes779> can anyone tell me if there is a way to force Ubuntu to install the Atheros drivers when updating ?
[19:43] <DigitalMan> Can someone please take a look at my forum post, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu and no one has really replied to my topic. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1122217
[19:43] <RedMushroom-AFK> if that doesn't work, then try ctrl+alt+ the other f keys until you find it
[19:43] <unop> TheFuzzball, what address does the host have?
[19:44] <h8red> ctl alt f7 does nothing
[19:44] <h8red> terminal window still a blank white space
[19:44] <posingaspopular> !panels | posingaspopular
[19:44] <RedMushroom> h8red: you mean your GUI?
[19:44] <h8red> all i did was sudo nvidia-settings to change my monitor refresh rate
[19:44] <TheFuzzball> unop: 192.168.0.40
[19:44] <eseven73> !msgthebot > posingaspopular
[19:44] <RedMushroom> oh, that's bad.
[19:44] <h8red> yeah i can't run the terminal now from applications
[19:44] <foureyes779> I have a laptop that only has WiFi, and it is not possible to to download the backports once I have upgraded
[19:44] <cellofellow> DigitalMan➜ I've never seen a soundcard hang a boot.
[19:44] <RedMushroom> i think you changed your driver for your video card
[19:44] <Pupeno> unop: which one should I tell crashplan to use? by default it asks for /etc/rc.d.
[19:44] <eseven73> !msgthebot > posingaspopular
[19:44] <RedMushroom> i had the same problem last week
[19:44] <h8red> a blank white window pops up instead of the terminal
[19:44] <RedMushroom> ummm...
[19:45] <eseven73> gah whats up with ubottu?
[19:45] <DigitalMan> well even after it hangs and continues to boot it freezes on bluetooth init
[19:45] <posingaspopular> thanks eseven73, the last time i used the bot, it was ubotu not ubottu
[19:45] <RedMushroom> h8red goto msg window
[19:45] <DigitalMan> @ cellofellow
[19:45] <DigitalMan> So idk what's wrong. :<
[19:45] <Matson> running spamassin in hardy.  should I install re2c and run sa-compile ?
[19:45] <Matson> anyone else done this?
[19:45] <cellofellow> DigitalMan➜ do you have a bluetooth chip then?
[19:45] <unop> TheFuzzball, are you sure the VM can ping the host?
[19:45] <DigitalMan> Nope
[19:46] <unop> Pupeno, depends on which runlevel you want to put it in
[19:46] <cellofellow> DigitalMan➜ sometimes the livecd just takes a *long time* to boot.
[19:46] <DigitalMan> cellofellow: I have no bluetooth hardware connected whatsoever at the moment.
[19:46] <cellofellow> ok
[19:46] <DigitalMan> Well,
[19:46] <foureyes779> can anyone tell me if there is a way to force Ubuntu to install the Atheros drivers when updating ?
[19:46] <DigitalMan> I understand that but It was on the Bluetooth hangup for 15 minutes and I just said forget it and shut it down
[19:46] <TheFuzzball> unop: I ran ping 192.168.0.1 and it gave me a stream of pings until I stopped ping.
[19:46] <Pupeno> unop: which one runs by default on multi-user mode? 3? 4?
[19:47] <joop_> hello..i just upgraded my memory to 2 gigs....however, the system is recognizing only 1 gig....is this a bug?
[19:47] <cellofellow> DigitalMan➜ ok, yeah 15 minutes is too long
[19:47] <DigitalMan> Should I try 8.10 then just upgrade it to 9.04?
[19:47] <unop> Pupeno, in debian/ubuntu.. runlevel 2-5 are all the same, runlevel 2 is the default.. so i'd say /etc/rc2.d
[19:47] <cellofellow> DigitalMan➜ when you get to the boot menu, hit F6 and remove the "splash quiet" options so you can actually see what's happening.
[19:48] <cellofellow> DigitalMan➜ or, if you really do want to install, use the alternate CD.
[19:48] <DigitalMan> cellofellow: I did, that's how I got those error messages I posted in the forum topic.
[19:48] <cellofellow> ah
[19:48] <cellofellow> well, I need to go for a little, sorry
[19:48] <DigitalMan> That's fine, thank you for your time.
[19:49] <unop> TheFuzzball, but 192.168.0.1 is not the host, is it?  .. can you ping the host?
[19:49] <Tedel> hello, I need some info, please
[19:49] <Watkins> Can anyone help me? I want to set up a seperate user account that can only access 2 folders
[19:49] <TheFuzzball> unop: "Destination Host Unreachable"
[19:50] <TheFuzzball> unop: I can ping the other VM via another VM too
[19:50] <Tedel> can I download Ubuntu... install it... and then remove gnome to use E17?
[19:50] <rapha> What is the name of that script for installing libraries and stuff in WINE again?
[19:50] <BigMack83_> how could i use dolphin in kubuntu to connect to my server which has an authentication key? or is it possible with dolphin. if not is there a recommended program for sftp with a gui?
[19:51] <rapha> Tedel: just install E17 ... no need to remove GNOME. Or install Ubuntu Server Edition if you absolutely dont want to have GNOME installed...
[19:51] <rapha> BigMack83_: maybe better ask in #kubuntu
[19:51] <BigMack83_> ooh ok thanks
[19:52] <joop_> what does it mean when the system says you have highmem and lowmem?
[19:52] <RedMushroom> if h8red is back in the room then msg me to see about getting those logs. i found them.
[19:52] <Tedel> rapha: OK, thanks.
[19:52] <Tedel> 2nd question... is it easy to make a USB modem work under ubuntu?
[19:53] <topher_> hey I just upgraded from 8.10 ---> 9.04 and when I try to run a video, or webcam application, I get this error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[19:53] <mikeize> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117908  please help, this happened again, and I really don't want to reinstall YET again
[19:53] <rapha> Tedel: you mean, like, a real modem? 56k? Or do you mean 3G?
[19:54] <guntbert> !jaunty | topher_
[19:54] <foureyes779> can anyone tell me if there is a way to force Ubuntu to install the Atheros drivers when updating ?
[19:54] <Tedel> 3G
[19:54] <TheFuzzball1> unop: apparently giving the host another IP doesn't fix the problem
[19:54] <pARESit> das ist n ganz schönes rumgehampel hier mit den vielen verschiedenen fenstern ... wieso nutzen wir net die macht eines chats
[19:54] <charles__> hji
[19:55] <rapha> Tedel: okay then ... normally you just stick the stick in (no pun intended) and it should prompt you to configure it
[19:55] <charles__> hi
[19:55] <guntbert> pARESit: wrong channel?
[19:55] <rapha> pARESit: was?
[19:55] <Tedel> it is not compatible with Linux by default, what do I need to know to configure it?
[19:55] <pARESit> sry ... der hat das amsg auf dem falschen server ausgeführt
[19:56] <mikeize> i'm getting boot errors after REISUB, someone help please
[19:56] <rapha> Tedel: usually I search for "Manufacturer Model Ubuntu" on Google, that tends to bring up a thread on ubuntuforums.org where someone asks how to get that hardware to work and gets some answers
[19:56] <unop> TheFuzzball, I'm wondering if the bridged mode has anything to do with this.
[19:56] <unop> TheFuzzball, I would use Host-To-Host here
[19:57] <TheFuzzball1> unop: Trying that now
[19:58] <TheFuzzball1> I don't know how to configure the server to use two network cards though, and I need an internet connection for updates
[19:58] <mikeize> is there a way to back up my installed programs from a livecd?
[19:59] <unop> mikeize, you can backup the list of installed programs .. not the programs themselves (atleast not easily)
[19:59] <unop> mikeize,   dpkg --get-selections  # should return them
[20:00] <The_Free_Man> hello?
[20:00] <Tedel> my last question is... I read Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. That's OK,I guess, but does that mean I need to reinstall the operative system every 6 months? or 1 installation and then update or upgrade a lot, like in ArchLinux?
[20:00] <unop> TheFuzzball1,  do both cards have access to the internet?
[20:00] <martin_king> I installed openoffice3.0 in my ubuntu 8.10 without uninstall the old version. How to let the oo3.0 to work?
[20:00] <MrElendig> Tedel: you can upgrade, but it usually sucks and breakes things (unlike in arch)
[20:01] <TheFuzzball1> unop: I am talking about virtual cards, one that is host-only and one that connects to the router
[20:01] <mikeize> unop thanks
[20:01] <Tedel> ok, thank you for your time and answers. =)
[20:01] <Matson> is there an ubuntu package that provides perl "IP::Country::Fast" for spamassassin ?
[20:01] <Tedel> good bye
[20:01] <The_Free_Man> Is my connection lagging/my comp sucking, or is noone talking?
[20:01] <mikeize> unop: do you know anything about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117908
[20:01] <beware> The_Free_Man: pong.
[20:02] <unop> TheFuzzball1, I'm somewhat confused here .. doesn't the host-only mode allow you to communicate on the real network i.e. get to the router?
[20:03] <TheFuzzball1> unop: nope, the host-only option creates a virtual network card on the host that allows communitcation between only the host an the VM
[20:04] <funsi> #evince (irc.gnome.org)
[20:04] <meoblast001> what is the package for "gio2"?
[20:04] <unop> TheFuzzball1, ohh, odd - I thought it did otherwise.  hmm, I don't know now.  maybe you should ask in #vmware after all.
[20:05] <TheFuzzball1> :D
[20:05] <tlx> :D?
[20:05] <beware> GI
[20:05] <beware> erm
[20:05] <beware> GI Joe!
[20:05] <nascentmind> hi. my ati 4670 hd touches 106C temperature. is it ok?
[20:05] <tlx> nascentmind:  no
[20:06] <tlx> is that your hard drive?
[20:06] <macman_> anyone use the command line to burn dvd ? its not illegal i already have an iso on my hd
[20:06] <tlx> hd?
[20:06] <nascentmind> tlx: no my graphics card.
[20:06] <macman_> hdd
[20:06] <tlx> i have no idea
[20:06] <tlx> ask in #hardware
[20:06] <beware> macman_: i dont think there's any need to say you're not burning something illegal - we're not morally responsible for your actions
[20:06] <tlx> those guys must know
[20:07] <foureyes779> how would I download the Atheros drivers and save them to a directory to install later ?
[20:07] <macman_> beware--- thanks .. i was getting flamed in another channel
[20:07] <beware> well, thats my opinion atleast
[20:07] <macman_> anyways .. any of you guys burn movies from the command line ?
[20:07] <RedMushroom> does anyone know what the "pure-pw" command is used for?
[20:07] <sambagirl> ok i did the apt-get update is it apt-get install next  i forget? it's a new install using wubi..
[20:07] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: uh oh dear
[20:07] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: or not
[20:08] <sambagirl> sebsebseb ?
[20:08] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: your not trying to  use samba to access the files for your windows install?
[20:08] <sambagirl> no no
[20:08] <lee_> can anyone help me with a ppp connection issue?
[20:08] <sambagirl> i am just stting up the new ubuntu setup and i know i have to do apt-get update
[20:08] <sambagirl> then i hae to do apt-get install
[20:08] <sambagirl> i think
[20:08] <unop> RedMushroom,  http://tinyurl.com/d93d6d indicates it is part of a few packages .. have a look at its manpage to find out what it does exactly.
[20:09] <sambagirl> i see
[20:09] <sambagirl> 287 uupdates
[20:09] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: wubi is ok to try, but then you should do real partition set up later on :)  with 9.04 and Ext4
[20:09] <macman_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo apt-get update
[20:09] <sambagirl> i tried 9.04 but wubi didnt see it
[20:09] <sambagirl> i see
[20:09] <unop> macman_, otherway around
[20:09] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: 9.04 is still beta preview,  april 23rd is the final release
[20:09] <macman_> lol
[20:09] <sambagirl> ahh
[20:09] <sambagirl> i tried studio 64 that is neat
[20:10] <sebsebseb> !samba |  sambagirl
[20:10] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: studio 64?
[20:10] <Matson> apt-file does work until you run sudo apt-file update
[20:10] <Matson> this should be run on install or have a bigger warning
[20:10] <sambagirl> yes
[20:10] <sambagirl> it is like for music and audio video etc
[20:10] <sambagirl> it is amazing
[20:10] <sambagirl> it is for creative people
[20:11] <mikeize> unop: running that dpkg command list the programs installed on the livecd, but i want to back up the progs i have installed
[20:11] <BATLI> السلام عليكم
[20:11] <foureyes779> after I do an update and boot into the new kernel, my wireless quits working, so i need to boot back into the previous version, and download the backports.
[20:11] <BATLI> هل من مسلمين هنا
[20:11] <foureyes779> how would I do this ?
[20:12] <macman_> any ideas ?
[20:12] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: I see you mean,  Ubuntu Studio, but the 64bit version?
[20:12] <sambagirl> umm i am not sure i think it is.
[20:12] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: you can get it's apps in a standard Ubuntu install by the way
[20:13] <sambagirl> i put it on a gateway and it worked but that was using amd64
[20:13] <sambagirl> sure but this is built in sebsebseb
[20:13] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: yeah
[20:14] <sambagirl> otherwise you would have to figure out what you dont even know abuot to install what you didnt already have but with that you have it and you know it becaues you can see it and it is already there ready for you.
[20:14] <mikeize> somebody PLEASE help me not spend all day reinstalling!!!!!
[20:14] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: yeah
[20:15] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: shame  standard Ubuntu isn't a dab better for  default apps really, but  on the other hand I used it since the second release in 2005, so I know what  to install anyway
[20:15] <cjb_ie> this laptop has got dist-upgraded one release at a time all the way from warty to intrepid - the last one was the most painful :(
[20:15] <spaceBARbarian> is there a ext4 driver for windows ?
[20:15] <sebsebseb> spaceBARbarian: not yet
[20:15] <sebsebseb> spaceBARbarian: Ext3 though yes
[20:16] <sebsebseb> mikeize: what happened? why do you think you need to re install?
[20:16] <spaceBARbarian> :P perhaps i should have made my home partition ext3 then
[20:16] <sebsebseb> spaceBARbarian: ok your on 9.04
[20:16] <sambagirl> sebsebseb i used it since hoary or somethingl ike that. when seveas and bob2 were the leaders and stuff. i received a box full of all these cds of every platform in the mail. i will never forget that.
[20:16] <mikeize> sebsebseb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117908
[20:16] <sambagirl> i use them sometimes
[20:16] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: you use what?
[20:17] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: you still want help with something?
[20:17] <sambagirl> ubuntu 5.04
[20:17] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: oh you still use it hummm
[20:17] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: in a virtual machine or something I hope in that case
[20:18] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: since no longer suppourted
[20:18] <sambagirl> it should be supported
[20:18] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: yeah maybe, it  was quite good
[20:18] <sambagirl> seveas supports it
[20:19] <lee_> i have an iphone tethered over usb with an ssh ppp connection - it all works fine but the max speed is 11.2k/sec - any ideas?
[20:19] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: ,but no OS maker continues suppourt for  each version for  a rather long time. and  remember Ubuntu comes wout with new version every 6 months,  April and October
[20:19] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: seveas??
[20:19]  * deany needs to tag his name with `girl` when he needs the whole room to help him out :) lol
[20:19] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: we are basically off topic here by the way, hence why I pm'd, but no one  whining at us about that anyway, at the moment
[20:19] <sambagirl> sebsebseb yes
[20:19] <sambagirl> bbiab must reboot
[20:19] <sebsebseb> deany: yeah heard that one before
[20:19] <sambagirl> duh gag me with a spoon deamyh
[20:20] <deany> oh lighten up will ya
[20:20] <h8red> re
[20:20] <sebsebseb> deany: don't put the female users off, please :)   they don't tend to find male hemour funny
[20:21] <h8red> finally got my terminal window back
[20:21] <h8red> but i had to disable the nvidia driver
[20:21] <h8red> :(
[20:21] <mikeize> sebsebseb: any suggestions?
[20:21] <lee_> if no one can help me with my ppp problem can someone point me to a room that can?
[20:22] <h8red> so im back to where i started
[20:22] <otm> I just typed: "sudo apt-get install kwin-style-crystal", but it's not been added to my themes :S
[20:22] <otm> can anyone help?
[20:22] <h8red> if i re-enable my nvidia driver, how do i get the refresh rate to stick?
[20:22] <h8red> using sudo nvidia-settings and doing it that way only works when i save the changes in the log file, and then my terminal window wont open
[20:22] <h8red> heh
[20:22] <n8tuser> lee_ -> what speed to you expect on an analog modem?
[20:23] <lee_> it's a 3g connection
[20:23] <n8tuser> lee_ -> what speed to you expect on an analog modem?
[20:23] <martinkoelewijn> there has been some fuzz about copying large files to an usb-hd very slowly (5 Mb/s); in the end the discussion was closed since an update would have taken care of it. Not for me though. Someone heard of a real solution / something to do?
[20:24] <fliipping> can someone please help me complie PFTP (http://www.derijk.org/pftp/)?
[20:24] <babi1> hi guys i have a problem..i need to access to my home pc via ssh....i have installed the ssh package and created the rsa key but.....from my laptop if i try to access to my home pc via the internal ip 192.168.... it works fine instead if i try to access via my public ip 84.220....it doesn't work and say "connection refused.......why??????
[20:26] <n8tuser> babi1 -> your router has to allow it in and forward it towards your ssh server
[20:26] <Scunizi> should xsane remain loaded even if it can't find a scanner or does it just disappear after non-discovery?
[20:26] <babi1> n8tuser and how could i do that??? can you explain me?
[20:26] <DanDan> hello all... I have a problem regarding **xorg** :( .. I can't access my Gnome desktop as the wallpaper loads at start and then it gives me this white screen and gets back to the login screen :( i can only access KDE ..
[20:27] <lee_> n8tuser: whats the max speed of a ppp connection?
[20:27] <DanDan> hello all... I have a problem regarding **xorg** :( .. I can't access my Gnome desktop as the wallpaper loads at start and then it gives me this white screen and gets back to the login screen :( i can only access KDE ..I'm an 8.04 ubuntu 64 user ..
[20:27] <n8tuser> babi first thing is elaborate on your network setup, whta is connected to which? and if you have a drawing, it will be nicer..
[20:28] <n8tuser> lee_ -> its not the ppp that limits it, it your modem
[20:28] <n8tuser> lee_ -> its not the ppp that limits it, it is your modem
[20:28] <otm> when you install a theme does it matter where you save the tar.gz and where you untar it?
[20:28] <fliipping> can someone please help me complie PFTP (http://www.derijk.org/pftp/)?
[20:28] <DanDan> yea im saying xorg cuz when the problem first started after an update when I restarted I got this error " couldnt start xserver" .. I cant config my xorg file ..
[20:28] <deany> otm, just drop it to the themes window, it`ll get put in your ~/.themes
[20:28] <Scunizi> otm: you don't untar it. just drag and drop it on the theme choosing window
[20:28] <martinkoelewijn> otm: no, and no need to untar, just drag and drop in themes gui tab
[20:28] <lee_> n8tuser: well the iphone connection i have tetherd over usb on winxp breaks 250kbps
[20:29] <DanDan> please in need of an xorg expert ASAP :(
[20:29] <lee_> n8tuser: so the speed isn't being limited on the phone, it's bottlenecking somewhere on my machine
[20:29] <otm> will this work with linux mint too?
[20:29] <Scunizi> otm: yes
[20:29] <mikeize> cannot initialize /etc/mtab
[20:30] <n8tuser> lee_ -> then look at your tty settings, see how fast it is
[20:30] <martinkoelewijn> otm: if you want theme working for root apps like synaptic too you need to untar in /usr/share/themes ; no experience in mint
[20:30] <n8tuser> lee_ -> dont forget the drivers you have in windows may not be available in linux
[20:31] <saif> .
[20:31] <Harvey8765> Hi guys, I dual boot ubuntu with windows, is there a quick way i can switch to windows and then back to ubuntu without logging out of ubuntu. I want to use itunes. Also what is a good podcast directory as Id prefer to not use windows at all if poss ?
[20:32] <wbd> How come we dont have to agree to terms to install google earth?
[20:32] <saif> harvy  try virtualbox
[20:32] <Harvey8765> ok
[20:32] <Harvey8765> i'll have a look at it
[20:33] <Harvey8765> thanks
[20:33] <mikeize> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117908 can anyone help with this boot error?
[20:33] <Gnea> !virtualbox
[20:33] <Harvey8765> thanks
[20:33] <fliipping> can someone please help me complie PFTP (http://www.derijk.org/pftp/)?
[20:34] <TheOnlyMerlin1> Hi all.
[20:34] <Gnea> mikeize: *edit* Solved it with a re-install.  <-- what?
[20:34] <wbd> I get a 404 off that url
[20:34] <mikeize> Gnea: yea i have the problem again, and i don't want to reinstall
[20:34] <wbd> whats wrong with gftp of the free java stuff out there
[20:34] <Gnea> !compile | fliipping
[20:35] <Gnea> mikeize: can you pastebin the output of this command:  find /etc -ls
[20:35] <aymen> hello
[20:36] <mikeize> Gnea: i'm running livecd right now, won't that matter?
[20:36] <wbd> anyone noticed you dont have to agree to trems on google earth install, I was wondering why?
[20:36] <wbd> what they upto now lol
[20:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone know a good link to tell me how to set up fstab so I can see my windows network drives?
[20:37] <Gnea> mikeize: clearly, you'll need to mount the partition and replace /etc with the correct path to that etc directory.... you should also be able to install pastebinit, temporarily, and use that to paste the output
[20:37] <Roasted> This is sort of a windows question but also tied in with linux... I just set up a samba ubuntu computer for file sharing and my XP laptop cannot ping it, but it can ping my other samba ubuntu desktop I have here... I know wnidows takes a while for DNS to register what computer names are on the network. Would this be true in my case that maybe windows hasn't detected my other samba ubuntu desktop yet?
[20:37] <mikeize> Gnea: ok, standby
[20:37] <Rovanion> I got a problem where exiting fullscreen games such as openarena the screen goes all black and stops to respond
[20:37] <blackdemon> ubuntu: you can just add a line like the one that are present in fstab
[20:37] <Rovanion> Ctrl alt backspace has no effect
[20:38] <wbd> that q has been here b4 I would check the forums
[20:38] <wbd> Rov, its your card, just dont do the 3d stuff
[20:39] <foureyes779> if i download the backports but dont install them, how would I install them after rebooting ?
[20:39] <wbd> if you know the card is supported then post back
[20:39] <DanDan> I was updating my 8.04 as usuall .. and when I restarted i got this error msg saying that COuldnt start X server ..
[20:39] <Rovanion> wbd: I will do the 3d stuff. I got an HD4850 and I will use it
[20:39] <blackdemon> with the command "fdisk -l" you can see the partitions present, so you can see the device of type NTFS (windows ...). You just add a line to mount that device to a directory you chosse and you can read your windows files ;)
[20:39] <wbd> thats new, I have a hd 2400 pro
[20:39] <aymen> i need update my comiz to sphircal can help me
[20:39] <aymen> hello
[20:40] <foureyes779> im in 2.6.27-7-gen and need to boot into -27-14-generic, then installthe backports that I downloaded earlier ?
[20:40] <wbd> Rov, the drivers are not forth coming from ati
[20:40] <wbd> !ati
[20:41] <Roasted> This is sort of a windows question but also tied in with linux... I just set up a samba ubuntu computer for file sharing and my XP laptop cannot ping it, but it can ping my other samba ubuntu desktop I have here... I know wnidows takes a while for DNS to register what computer names are on the network. Would this be true in my case that maybe windows hasn't detected my other samba ubuntu desktop yet?
[20:41] <Rovanion> Roasted: Make sure that they are in the same workgroup
[20:41] <Roasted> Rovanion - same workgruop? We're talking a windows computer vs a linux computer...
[20:42] <blackdemon> or you add the ip of your sama server to hosts.txt
[20:42] <Rovanion> Roasted: Yes, correct
[20:42] <user_> Roasted: try the equivalent of 'smbclient' on windows to get a list of known workgroup services
[20:42] <mrwes> Wow! hey BigMike
[20:42] <Rovanion> Roasted: You are connecting trough a Windows protocole. So you got to fallow the rules set up by it
[20:42] <mib_0ovtul> hi what is the command to mount ntfs partitions?
[20:43] <blackdemon> mount :p
[20:43] <mikeize> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/d7f65ca7b it's weird though, with a lot of blank space at the top
[20:43] <ottomatik> mount -t vfat
[20:43] <Gnea> mikeize: checking
[20:45] <wbd> mib: alt f2 reboot then choose windows on start :)
[20:45] <BigMike> hey mwres
[20:45] <mib_0ovtul> will sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sda3 mount windows with rw?
[20:46] <Gnea> mikeize: hrm, i'm not seeing anything out of place there... not sure why the whitespace is so prevalent, but that's beside the point... it's possible that either the memory, the hard drive or the motherboard are going bad... have you run memtest and/or fscked the drives when they're not mounted?
[20:46] <Roasted> Rovanion - What exactly would I have to do on the Ubuntu Samba computer? I set up two of these, but the one is lacking the ability to connect with my XP laptop. I'm not sure what else to do.
[20:46] <mikeize> Gnea: not yet... :(   everthing is less than 2 years old tho
[20:47] <Rovanion> Roasted: Lets move to a PM chat
[20:47] <mikeize> Gnea: also, reinstall fixes it
[20:47] <barbarella> mib_0ovtul: you can better use ntfs-3g, if you want to write as well
[20:49] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[20:49] <TheOnlyMerlin> Hi all
[20:50] <wbd> is there a chat channel here
[20:50] <brian87> This is a public chat?!
[20:50] <wbd> off topic I mean
[20:50] <TheOnlyMerlin> Yes and yes
[20:50] <TheOnlyMerlin> and I don't know
[20:50] <brian87> hm..
[20:50] <mib_izxg7m> hi what is the command to mount a ntfs partition with read and write?
[20:50] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, my question not answer yet. a very simple question. if i use "checkinstall" and the file become *deb package. can i save the *deb package and install to another pc with only double clicks?
[20:50] <user_> !offtopic | wbd
[20:51] <TheOnlyMerlin> I have a question in regard to open office. IN calc, is there a way to create, and respectively call functions? Does it have some sort of scripting language to do this?
[20:51] <phh45> Help need on sound issues: My alsasound have disappeared. Also my soundcard is not recognised. This page did not bring any solution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:51] <mib_izxg7m> yes unitedpotsmokers
[20:51] <neruda> can someone give me some pointers for partitioning an external sata drive? It will eventually hold ubuntu and i'd like to leave room so vista can use it as well
[20:51] <wbd> thanks
[20:51] <barbarella> mib_izxg7m: mount -t ntfs-3g
[20:51] <Gnea> mikeize: 2 years is a long time
[20:51] <brian87> this ... "x-chat" appears to be useful
[20:51] <mib_izxg7m> thanks barbarella
[20:52] <grawity> brian87: You mean IRC?
[20:52] <guntbert> TheOnlyMerlin: #openoffice.org is the channel you need
[20:52] <mikeize> Gnea: :p anyway, no errors found fsck
[20:52] <mib_izxg7m> barbarella: nothing happened
[20:52] <Gnea> mikeize: of course, you can reinstall over and over again without actually testing anything to try and find out where the real problem is at
[20:52] <brian87> okay that's what i meant
[20:52] <Roasted> I've heard of Ubuntu having video and audio editing software. How does this software compare to what Mac may offer? Does Ubuntu have better open source and free alternatives to this software?
[20:52] <foureyes779> ok, after I download the backports and reboot, how would I install them under the newer kernel ?
[20:52] <user_> mib_izxg7m: you need to use -o rw
[20:52] <TheOnlyMerlin> neruda, I would suggest at least a linus partistion, a windows partition, a shared data partition, and a linux swap.
[20:52] <guntbert> !ot | Roasted
[20:52] <mib_izxg7m> mount -t -o rw ntfs-3g ? user_ ??
[20:52] <TheOnlyMerlin> guntbert: I am actually in there right now also.. completely dead
[20:52] <Gnea> mikeize: i would reboot and run memtest
[20:53] <Roasted> I'm sorry, but my topic is within Ubuntu software that is based on... Ubuntu. So I see no reason why my question would have to go to another chat. Thanks!
[20:53] <mikeize> Gnea: i very much would like to find the problem... yes that is my next step... thank you for your help
[20:53] <neruda> Merlin: linux=ext3, swap=the same, shared=?
[20:53] <user_> !best > Roasted
[20:53] <martinkoelewijn> retry: has somebody ideas on very slow large file copy via usb (currently 5Mb/s)?
[20:54] <unitedpotsmokers> mib_izxg7m: thanks
[20:54] <user_> mib_izxg7m: mount -t vfat -o rw from_where to_where
[20:54] <barbarella> mib_izxg7m: mount -t ntfs-3g device mountpoint
[20:54] <mib_izxg7m> hmm
[20:54] <mib_izxg7m> thanks
[20:54] <user_> barbarella: thanks
[20:55] <mib_izxg7m> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /home/jordan/Desktop/windows ?
[20:55] <mib_izxg7m> barbarella: ^
[20:55] <barbarella> yes
[20:55] <user_> mib_izxg7m: you havent included the rw option yet
[20:55] <mib_izxg7m> ohhh right
[20:56] <mib_izxg7m> mount -t ntfs-3g rw /dev/sda3 /home/jordan/Desktop/windows ? user_ ?
[20:56] <user_> mib_izxg7m: its after sda3 and before /home/jordan
[20:56] <mib_izxg7m> oh thanks
[20:56] <Omni> Can I stop a CD-Burning session if it's not going anywhere in the "creating image checksum" session?
[20:56] <Omni> the actual burning is done
[20:57] <user_> mib_izxg7m: mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw /dev/sda3 /homejordan.
[20:57] <neruda> theOnlyMerlin: you were saying?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip1> Omni: is the session closed?
[20:57] <Omni> ActionParsnip1: as in, have I X'ed out of it yet?
[20:57] <Omni> or is the .iso still burning?
[20:57] <Omni> It's been sitting at the same spot for an hour now
[20:58] <ActionParsnip1> Omni: does the app say the session has been closed?
[20:58] <mib_izxg7m> thanks a ton user_ !!!!!!
[20:58] <ActionParsnip1> Omni: if its been an hour its definately had an issue
[20:58] <ActionParsnip1> Omni: i'd close it and see if the cd is okk after ejecting it then reinserting
[20:59] <martinkoelewijn> is it possible to install pulseaudio 1:0.9.14 (jaunty) on intrepid? It seems to fix bug of high cpu usage.
[20:59] <Omni> ActionParsnip1: no, it doesn't say it's done. I'll close it. It's an iso, so I'm not sure if it's going to be ok. I don't really need the checksum, do I? :P
[20:59] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I just tried to mount an external usb drive (ntfs) and ubuntu says it didnt shut down properly with windows so I followed to the direction in the log file trying to force the mount through fstab and command line but neither worked any suggestions?
[20:59] <Omni> ActionParsnip1: it's done as in not copying any more files, in that sense.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip1> Omni: i'd see what you have
[21:01] <Omni> well what the heck? when I pressed 'cancel', it went to the "SUCCESS!" thing. and it burned correctly. :||||
[21:01] <Omni> oh well
[21:01] <Omni> thanks ActionParsnip1
[21:01] <mrwes> U-b-u-n-t-u, connect the drive back to windows and properly shut down and then reconnect it to Ubuntu
[21:01] <user_> martinkoelewijn: no, not recommended
[21:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> mrwes when I connect it to the windows machines I have the dont even see it
[21:01] <neruda> anyone have suggestions for a boot manager? I want to install more than one distro on an external sata drive and have the option to boot into any of them....
[21:02] <ActionParsnip1> Omni: jack the disk out, then reinsert, see what you get
[21:02] <martinkoelewijn> user_: thanks; not recommended as in generally not recommended or because you know of issues with pulseaudio?
[21:02] <user_> neruda: grub, default with ubuntu
[21:02] <user_> martinkoelewijn: generally not recommended
[21:03] <user_> !backports | martinkoelewijn two choices for you: waiting for backports or using jaunty.
[21:04] <neruda> user_: thanks
[21:06] <znik>  i need header file for myTCP.h and http.h. how can i download them from synaptic, etc.?
[21:07] <znik> for C
[21:07] <user_> znik: check packages.ubuntu.com to find out which package you need
[21:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> U-b-u-n-t-u the answer it plug it into a windows machine and restart even if it doesnt see the partition you'll get a proper shut down
[21:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thank you U-b-u-n-t-u
[21:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> np
[21:08] <ubuntun00b10997> actionparsnip?
[21:08] <mrwes> I told you that silly
[21:08] <znik> user_ how do i kno whichone is the one i need?
[21:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> =)
[21:08] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: sup?
[21:08] <mrwes> like 20 minutes ago :P
[21:08] <ubuntun00b10997> hi
[21:08] <ubuntun00b10997> Uh
[21:09] <ubuntun00b10997> sebsebseb reccomended you to me
[21:09] <mrwes> hah
[21:09] <ubuntun00b10997> I have some cereal atheros card problems
[21:09] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: ask the room, not just me
[21:09] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: uh he thinks your good at wireless,  I don't knwo if you are though
[21:09] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: ,but you seem to know a lot of stuff etc
[21:09] <ubuntun00b10997> Okay
[21:09] <ubuntun00b10997> So guys
[21:09] <ubuntun00b10997> I have an atheros 5007EG
[21:09] <sebsebseb> ubuntun00b10997: indeed ask the room
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> I have a driver in my "HardwareDrivers menu that "supports atheros 5xxx" drivers
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> *cards
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> It's activated
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> but I don't know if that's supposed to work
[21:10] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: ok, run: sudo iwlist scan
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> okat
[21:10] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: if it shows APs then its fine
[21:10] <user_> znik: please try by yourself. it basically works like google
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> D:
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> It's not fine
[21:10] <pixelmonkey> I just tried adding a module to initramfs via /usr/share/initramfs-tools/modules, but when I extract the initrd image to check the result, I don't see my module showing up.
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[21:10] <ubuntun00b10997> pan0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[21:10] <pixelmonkey> any ideas how to get modules added to initrd in intrepid?
[21:11] <ubuntun00b10997> brb guys
[21:11] <mrwes> ubuntun00b10997, did you reboot after activating the driver?
[21:11] <ubuntun00b10997> no
[21:11] <ubuntun00b10997> should I have?
[21:11] <mrwes> I would
[21:11] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: if you have to paste multiple lines, use a pastebin
[21:11] <ubuntun00b10997> HUH?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip1> !pastebin | ubuntun00b10997
[21:12] <ubuntun00b10997> oh.
[21:12] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: if you paste tonnes of text it scrolls the channel like crazy
[21:12] <Cpudan80> and you get muted
[21:12] <ubuntun00b10997> okay
[21:12] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: ok can you pastebin the output of ifconfig
[21:13] <ubuntun00b10997> ifconfig?
[21:13] <ubuntun00b10997> is that th iwlist?
[21:13] <cjb_ie> and for the same reason, try not to use enter as punctuation... gather up a whole sentence, then hit enter :)
[21:13] <caty> hi
[21:14] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: what's ifconfig?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: its a terminal comand
[21:14] <ubuntun00b10997> oh, okay.
[21:14] <Cpudan80> ublender: its more or less equivalent to ipconfig in windows
[21:14] <Cpudan80> configure your wired network interfaces
[21:14] <thms> join #kielce
[21:15] <sebsebseb> caty: hi
[21:15] <ubuntun00b10997> okay
[21:15] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: I'm putting it in the pastebin
[21:15] <caty> sebsebseb, =)
[21:15] <phh45> cat /proc/asound/cards prints "--- no soundcards ---". How to get the card back? hda-intel.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: cool, paste the address you go to in here
[21:16] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: It's now in the pastebin
[21:16] <ubuntun00b10997> okay
[21:16] <ubuntun00b10997> http://paste.ubuntu.com/149105/
[21:16] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: perfect
[21:16] <meshuggah> fuck people
[21:16] <Gnea> !language | meshuggah
[21:16] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: ok can you do the same with: sudo lshw -C network
[21:17] <ubuntun00b10997> okay
[21:17] <mrwes> ActionParsnip1, wouldn't hurt if he would reboot after enabling the hardware driver
[21:17] <ActionParsnip1> mrwes: true
[21:17] <meshuggah> Gnea, sorry
[21:17] <mrwes> might solve some issues with just a reboot
[21:18] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/149107/
[21:18] <ActionParsnip1> mrwes: i'll read this then its worth a go
[21:18] <mFacenet> has anybody installed Gnome shell on Jaunty?
[21:18] <meshuggah> :)
[21:18] <Gnea> !jaunty | mFacenet
[21:18] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: you have a  AR242x chip
[21:18] <hadriansdeath> I am having a problem with gvfs-daemon
[21:18] <ubuntun00b10997> O_O
[21:18] <Serg> hi guys
[21:19] <ubuntun00b10997> That's not possible
[21:19] <ubuntun00b10997> I checked on Windows
[21:19] <hadriansdeath> it is duplicating my entire drive
[21:19] <ubuntun00b10997> AR5xxx
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[21:19] <Gnea> !enter | ubuntun00b10997
[21:19] <mrwes> yep        product: AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: windows doesnt matter, its what linux sees it as
[21:19] <ubuntun00b10997> okay.
[21:19] <mrwes> heh
[21:19] <Serg> need help from ubuntu expert
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: its in your pastebin dude, read it
[21:19] <dotblank> !ask
[21:19] <mrwes> nod
[21:19] <sebsebseb> Serg: what do you want help with?
[21:19] <Gnea> Serg: you need to ask the question before you'll get help
[21:20] <meshuggah> ask your question
[21:20] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: I'll follow these instructions, so hold on for a bit please
[21:20] <meshuggah> nnow
[21:20] <macman_> Ned__--- you there ?
[21:20] <pmarch_> Hi guys, I recently installed Ubuntu 8.10 and it worked fine for about 1 week and now I have problems like the printer doesn't work anymore and the system won't shut down properly. Is there anything I can do to roll back the drivers?
[21:20] <meshuggah> pmarch_, install windows
[21:20] <mrwes> meshuggah, nice
[21:20] <dotblank> meshuggah: ???
[21:20] <Serg> i am a complete noob in linux spent all my life in WIN tried Ubuntu Studio yesterday no luck w/ vidoe
[21:20] <pmarch_> I hate windows
[21:20] <hadriansdeath> I just got a dell mini, And my gvfs-daemon seems to be duplication my entire drive. In the partition manager, it is shown as an exact duplicate of my file system
[21:20] <martinkoelewijn> pmarch: the shutdown is a known issue, check ubuntuforums.org
[21:21] <ActionParsnip1> pmarch_: remove the printer and then reinstall it
[21:21] <Serg> DELL e196fp monitor resolution is low
[21:21] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: I have an error I will be putting in my pastebin
[21:21] <Gnea> pmarch_: it's possible you're not using ACPI
[21:21] <ActionParsnip1> Serg: whats the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:21] <pmarch_> tnx Martin
[21:21] <meshuggah> pmarch_, i would suggest vista
[21:21] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/149110/
[21:22] <ActionParsnip1> meshuggah: you arent being helpful
[21:22] <Gnea> !resolution | Serg (check this site out, let us know if it doesn't work)
[21:22] <pmarch_> and Action Parsnip, how do I deinstall the printer?
[21:22] <meshuggah> ActionParsnip1, sorry, but i am still trying
[21:22] <Serg> i wish i new i tried to reed forums and reconfigure xorg but no luck so far
[21:22] <dotblank> pmarch_: just delete the printer
[21:22] <ubuntun00b10997> Serg: try xvesa?
[21:22] <pmarch_> ok let me try that
[21:23] <xarus> hi
[21:23] <sebsebseb> xarus: hi
[21:23] <user_> meshuggah: if you can help with windows, you better do it in #windows
[21:23] <jamiejackson1> Looking for game recommendations for my wife. She likes all kinds of stuff, but doesn't like violent games. Tends to like sim-city kinds of stuff, diner dash, lemonade tycoon, but looking for stuff i can install for her that she'd like. Thoughts?
[21:23] <Serg> how do i save the file xorg after i am done editing it, sorry i am a noob  when it comes to text mode
[21:23] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: what do you think of the pastebin?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: wget http://wireless.kernel.org/download/compat-wireless-2.6/compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2
[21:23] <xarus> i have a lil problem
[21:23] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: the file was wrong in the guide
[21:23] <xarus> :)
[21:23] <jamiejackson1> Serg, which app did you edit in
[21:23] <apo> Hi, I just created a RAID5 with one missing device - how do I add the missing device?
[21:23] <ubuntun00b10997> oh
[21:23] <martinkoelewijn> Serg: do gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[21:23] <ubuntun00b10997> okay
[21:23] <fx3> Hi, Is it possible/viable to use whole disks for software raid using mdadm ? as in, /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd ?
[21:23] <Gnea> Serg: that depends what you use to edit it with
[21:24] <dotblank> Serg i you ctl+x it asks to save and closes nano (if your using nano)
[21:24] <meshuggah> user_, sorry man
[21:24] <xarus> can someone help me with a custmize problem?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip1> meshuggah: how do you think advising vista in a linux help room would help any at all?
[21:24] <xarus> can someone help me with a customize problem?
[21:24] <Serg> oh jees this is new to me i have no idea what i am doong
[21:24] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: downloading
[21:24] <meshuggah> ActionParsnip1, dunno, i tried
[21:24] <Gnea> !repeat | xarus
[21:24] <ActionParsnip1> !anyone | xarus
[21:24] <meshuggah> ActionParsnip1, i am sorry
[21:24] <mrwes> ubuntun00b10997, did you not enable the driver in Hardware DRivers? If so, give it a reboot for you dig to china on this :)
[21:24] <n00b-_-> is there windows media player ?
[21:24] <sebsebseb> !troll |  meshuggah
[21:24] <xarus> ok ok I understand
[21:24]  * Gnea agrees with sebsebseb 
[21:25] <Rovanion> Where in my filesystem is samba shares mounted
[21:25] <mrwes> !ban
[21:25] <dotblank> n00b-_-: There is totem
[21:25] <n00b-_-> where do i find windows media player
[21:25] <mrwes> :)
[21:25] <imachine> n00b-_-, on windows.
[21:25] <meshuggah> sebastien, ?
[21:25] <Serg> any chance i can edit xorg from other live distro that works like mandriva detects my monitor well
[21:25] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, ?
[21:25] <caty> where is internet explorer?
[21:25] <frankS2> haha
[21:25] <frankS2> troll caty
[21:25] <imachine> caty, likewise
[21:25] <Gnea> Rovanion: usually ~/.gvfs/
[21:26] <dotblank> caty: On ubuntu internet explorer has been replaced by firefox
[21:26] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: how do I know what directory I extracted to?
[21:26] <Gnea> caty: in windows
[21:26] <Rovanion> Gnea: oke
[21:26] <caty> dotblank, oh
[21:26] <n00b-_-> where do i install it ?
[21:26] <dotblank> :(
[21:26] <imachine> n00b-_-, and media player can get installed I think, not sure tho, with the use of WINE. but you can use Totem for most of your film needs, and otherwise, rhythmbox for your audio needs.
[21:26] <user_> n00b-_-: go home
[21:26] <RedWar> Caty yOU Can uSe ie4linuX
[21:27] <imachine> n00b-_-, there's plenty other applications available.
[21:27] <Except> Hello everyone
[21:27] <caty> redwar,?
[21:27] <Rovanion> n00b-_-: I recommend Medaplayer or VLC
[21:27] <n00b-_-> do they work with my music
[21:27] <imachine> n00b-_-, windows media player, as the name suggests, is a windows application.,
[21:27] <Except> I just installed UBuntu 8.10 on my laptop for the first time. It's really awesome, I like everything about it.
[21:27] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: I have pasted the output in the pastebin. and I don't know where my directory that I extracted it to is
[21:27] <xarus> so here goes... I have added a theme to emerald i have activated emerald and I don't know what happen, coz when I click the little green men to choose shut down... there isn;t any shut  down option... and the only way I shut down now is from terminal... can this be fixed? ... and an Other one... how can I get this cursor >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GQ52l15LrQ   the little yellow things ...how can i get that?
[21:27] <miha> i dont know who played with sound in later ubuntu version... either totem player or amsn "locks" my sound card and gotta kill X and log back in to get sound in unreal tournament
[21:27] <dotblank> Except: Awesome :)
[21:27] <miha> in old alsa versions it worked
[21:28] <nillo> weird--installed AdBlock Plus in Ubuntu, but it didn't install the corresponding .deb.  I thought that's how other Mozilla add-ons were handled.
[21:28] <Gnea> caty: is there something that you need IE for that absolutely won't work with firefox?
[21:28] <miha> which noob broke the working sound?
[21:28] <imachine> n00b-_-, probably should. if not, they will inform you about need to download proper codecs, which then you can choose to download and install.
[21:28] <imachine> n00b-_-, automatically.
[21:28] <imachine> :)
[21:28] <miha> i heard about 'pulseaudio'
[21:28] <Serg> Guys i get black screen and : resolution is not suported optimal res 1280x1024 @60
[21:28] <miha> alsa worked
[21:28] <Except> dotblank: yes, it looks sleek, and works great. But I do have a problem, I won dered if anyone could help
[21:28] <fx3> is there a more technical ubuntu channel where i can ask about mdadm?
[21:28] <miha> then some idiot replaces with broken new system
[21:28] <caty> gnea, what is firefox?
[21:28] <n00b-_-> i got told ubuntu was a better windows tho ?
[21:28] <Serg> Monitor Dell e196fp
[21:28] <miha> any comments?
[21:28] <dotblank> Except: probally
[21:28] <Gnea> !firefox | caty
[21:28] <imachine> n00b-_-, Ubuntu is an Operating system.
[21:28] <RedWar> lf you Want to have ie on Linux
[21:29] <Gnea> caty: it is a well-known alternative web browser
[21:29] <imachine> n00b-_-, it falls next to other operating systems, one of which is MS Windows.
[21:29] <sebsebseb> Gnea: caty and meshuggah are here to troll
[21:29] <imachine> n00b-_-, if it's better, it's a case of personal preference. most of the people here seem to prefer it, I suppose.
[21:29] <miha> i dont know who played with sound in later ubuntu version... either totem player or amsn "locks" my sound card and gotta kill X and log back in to get sound in unreal tournament... it used to work two releases ago
[21:29] <xarus> ok i have written to much?
[21:29] <imachine> n00b-_-, (I do for one)
[21:29] <fx3> imachine, well, i wouldnt say that it *falls* =P
[21:29] <caty> gnea, is it a copy of  internet explorer ike msn is amsn?
[21:29] <n00b-_-> they said it was better
[21:29] <PornAddict> :(
[21:29] <imachine> fx3, sits.
[21:29] <miha> why you go break what used to work
[21:29] <Gnea> sebsebseb: i see.
[21:29] <miha> is that progress?
[21:29] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, ?
[21:29] <Except> Well, it worked great, I played with it a bit, and today, suddenly, when trying to connect to any wireless network, it stalls intermittently. The whole computer. The mouse is nearly impossible to control and everything goes in 5 second stalled jumps.
[21:29] <meshuggah> troll, like ad&d ?
[21:30] <imachine> n00b-_-, there can be numerous reasons why these mysterious "they" think so, but if "they" indeed do, it would be good to ask them why exactly, for starters, and that's what I would've done first, if I were you ;]
[21:30] <Except> So I had to go back to windows to ask you this question :(
[21:30] <Gnea> caty: no, actually firefox is an off-shoot of mozilla, which is the open-source offshoot of netscape, which was copied by microsoft, back in the day, to become IE
[21:30] <dotblank> Except: Did you recently update ubuntu?
[21:30] <RedWar> I am not sure about downloading the newestvversion of ubuntu
[21:30] <imachine> Gnea, inadeptly
[21:30] <Except> Yes, I did update this morning.
[21:30] <miha> netscape was just fancied up mosaic browser from CERN
[21:30] <Gnea> meshuggah: ever heard of 4chan?
[21:30] <caty> gnea, oh
[21:31] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: back
[21:31] <imachine> Gnea, if I may add
[21:31] <imachine> ;]
[21:31] <xarus> so here goes... I have added a theme to emerald i have activated emerald and I don't know what happen, coz when I click the little green men to choose shut down... there isn;t any shut  down option... and the only way I shut down now is from terminal... can this be fixed? ... and an Other one... how can I get this cursor >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GQ52l15LrQ   the little yellow things ...Does anyone know how to get that and solve my shut down problem?
[21:31] <miha> and mosaic was first graphic HTML browser
[21:31] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: may I speak to you in pM?
[21:31] <caty> gnea, so firefox is better
[21:31] <meshuggah> 4chan?
[21:31] <Gnea> imachine: lol
[21:31] <dotblank> Except: Did you manually compile your drivers?
[21:31] <meshuggah> nah
[21:31] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: no i'm kinda doing a lot right now so i cant hold your hand every step in that very comprehensive guide
[21:31] <Except> dotblank: no I wouldn't know how to do that.
[21:31] <Gnea> caty: yes. problems are fixed with it much faster.
[21:31] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: okay
[21:31] <imachine> caty, there's a good chance it's faster, safer. it's often also going with standards, set by other people, unlike ie which just tries to set standards of its own and force web developers to stick to it.
[21:31] <miha> why so many users complain about sound and gnome and pulseaudio
[21:32] <miha> i know in our LUG they do
[21:32] <RedWar> Caty firefox or opera is better than ie
[21:32] <miha> sound and ubuntu and pulseaudio
[21:32] <miha> things that used to work now dont
[21:32] <miha> require tricks
[21:32] <miha> or whatever
[21:32] <mrwes> RedWar, lynx is better than IE
[21:32] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: its all there for you with full commands
[21:32] <caty> gnea, oh
[21:32] <ubuntu> okay ubuntu live logging into to a secured wireless then getting kicked off the network after 1 minute, any ideas?
[21:32] <Gnea> !pulseaudio
[21:32] <dotblank> Except: you may have to compile the latest wireless drivers and install them manually untill the next kernel update fixes it
[21:32] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: thanks for the webpage, I think I got it figured out
[21:32] <mark_483732> ciao
[21:32] <xarus> Does anyone know how to make the little green runing man to show shut down function?
[21:32] <imachine> caty, try it and see for yourself. to be honest tho, I haven't seen anyone with more than bits of computer knowledge running IE for anything more than downloading another browser.
[21:32] <ubuntu> and it will stay connected to unsecured networks..
[21:33] <imachine> caty, eventually, windows update or testing ;]
[21:33] <miha> ubuntu bad signal, and network manager sucks at reconnecting
[21:33] <RedWar> Ii think lynx x is best of all, no graphics woot!
[21:33]  * miha had fun eduroam wpa enterprise and 20% or so signal
[21:33] <Gnea> ubuntu: have you tried wicd?
[21:33] <Except> dotblank: ok... but how do i do this if i cannot connect to the internet? Can I roll back that update perhaps?
[21:33] <miha> and gnome network manager cant login back
[21:33] <miha> it asks you
[21:33] <miha> every time
[21:33] <ubuntu> well the neighbors wifi is slow so i might have to
[21:33] <miha> who designed that :)
[21:33] <FloodBot2> miha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <ubuntu> exactly
[21:33] <Gnea> !enter | miha
[21:33] <xarus> coz mine doesn't wanna show...
[21:34] <dotblank> Except: you can try booting into an earlier kernel. when grub is loading try selecting the second latest kernel
[21:34] <caty> imachine, i am not firebox now hoe ddo i favourite some thing
[21:34] <Except> Ok... that's in the boot menu?
[21:34] <imachine> caty, it's called bookmarks.
[21:34] <Except> Where I choose between windows and linux?
[21:35] <Psywiped> yes Except
[21:35] <imachine> caty, you can press the little star in the address bar for example.
[21:35] <Gnea> caty: have you installed Ubuntu yet?
[21:35] <imachine> caty, other than that, I'd suggest reading www.firefox.org or so, to get a grip of how it works.
[21:35] <RedWar> caty can you please repeat your last question?
[21:35] <manpoole> miha hwo do i fix the disconnecting issue?
[21:35] <Gnea> RedWar: no need for that.
[21:35] <Except> Ok. So I try that, then download the wireless drivers (from where?) and 'compile' them and install them? Would this take me a week to figure out if I never did that before?
[21:35] <caty> imachine, ty
[21:36] <manpoole> oh yeah and im pretty new to linux id say about 2 hours new
[21:36] <plastun> can anybody help me with setting up broadcom wi-fi?
[21:36] <imachine> caty, it's quite intuitive after a while, just play and experiment with it a bit.
[21:36] <Gnea> !wireless
[21:36] <dotblank> Except: yes
[21:36] <dotblank> Except: you should see multiple entries for ubuntu
[21:36] <osgeld> so how many here use  ubuntu (runs away before the egging)
[21:37]  * Gnea looks oddly at osgeld 
[21:37] <manpoole> i found a really good webpage on howto install windows wifi drivers earlier today
[21:37] <xarus> :))
[21:37] <manpoole> got me running in a few seconds I can find it if you want
[21:37] <meshuggah> i dont use ubuntu
[21:37] <Gnea> osgeld: I'm gonna guess 1,404 people ;)
[21:37] <vidor> Anyone have any ideas why the top bar (min/max buttons) is now gone from Firefox but is there and works fine on any other app
[21:37] <ubuntun00b10997> manpoole: can I have that?
[21:37] <meshuggah> maybe the 9.04
[21:37] <Gnea> meshuggah: why not?
[21:38] <imachine> manpoole, I think there's even a graphical application gtk2 for Ubuntu.
[21:38] <skunkworks__> ?
[21:38] <imachine> manpoole, helping with windows drivers.
[21:38] <jdwarta> vidor: maybe they r under the menubar
[21:38] <meshuggah> Gnea, i will try the 9.04, if it is really faster
[21:38] <deany> vidor, full screen?
[21:38] <Except> Hm. okay, it sounds like this is too complicated to pull off. I wouldnt know how to compile drivers or even what drivers to look for.
[21:38] <xarus> Gnea : and the rest
[21:38] <Gnea> meshuggah: faster than what? to do what?
[21:38] <meshuggah> Gnea, if it is, i will install only this one
[21:38] <meshuggah> Gnea, faster than 8.10
[21:38] <Gnea> meshuggah: at doing what?
[21:38] <Except> Am i looking at the manufacturer's site? they dont have linux drivers afaik
[21:38] <psychomantis> hey guys
[21:39] <MagoonD> I upgraded from gutsy to hardy and now i cannot su in the terminal, the password for su does not work anymore can someone help me?
[21:39] <vidor> No not full screen and there is no menu bar anymore ... the only thing I can see are the buttons below the menu bar and the rest of the page
[21:39] <xarus> I cant pass throught 8.10... I have big problems with wireless card
[21:39] <Gnea> xarus: well, at least a couple bots there ;)
[21:39] <xarus> I still use 8.04
[21:39] <nperry> !offtopic
[21:39] <osgeld> im going to be redoing my machine soon, is there really any reason to use the x64 edition
[21:39] <meshuggah> Gnea, to do all
[21:39] <vikrant> osgeld: no
[21:39] <meshuggah> Gnea, to do firefox, music, video, games,...
[21:39] <Gnea> meshuggah: what are your system specs? cpu/mem/hd?
[21:39] <guntbert> !sudo | MagoonD
[21:39] <RedWar> On HARDY heron all, is pulseaudio friendlier than using alsamixer?
[21:40] <dotblank> Except: This is true most manufactures don't have linux drivers but the chip makers do, During the startup where you select wich OS do you have more then one option for ubuntu?
[21:40] <meshuggah> Gnea, p4 1.5ghz, 256mb ram, 3x40gig hd, geforce 4
[21:40] <ActionParsnip1> osgeld: if you have more than say 3Gb ram then use 64Bit imho, 64bit is great now, java can be a pain otherwise its flawless
[21:40] <meshuggah> 64mb
[21:40] <MagoonD> ubottu, thx sudo seems to work
[21:40] <ubuntun00b10997> rebooting.
[21:40] <psychomantis> looooool
[21:40] <Apolo> poertugues
[21:40] <Apolo> portugues
[21:40] <mrwes> wh00p?! a reboot!
[21:40] <psychomantis> huge
[21:40] <imachine> meshuggah, should be more than enough, could use more ram tho.
[21:41] <osgeld> im using 8.04 atm just cause im lazy and it was already installed when i upgraded hardware, 9.04 i just saw is faster is there newer versions i should avoid?
[21:41] <Gnea> meshuggah: okay, standard ubuntu does not work good with 256mb of ram. I would recommend increasing your memory to at least 512mb, or using a different version of ubuntu (such as kubuntu, elivecd or xubuntu)
[21:41] <Apolo> irc em portugues
[21:41] <Apolo> ubuntu-br
[21:41] <osgeld> and no i only have 2gb
[21:41] <meshuggah> Gnea, i tried xubuntu
[21:41] <Except> dotblank: Yes I have a couple. My Wifi is an Intel 5100 AGN chip
[21:41] <psychomantis> speak english plz
[21:41] <Gnea> !pt | Apolo
[21:41] <meshuggah> Gnea, i only have the choice for rambus rdram
[21:41] <imachine> osgeld, wait till it comes out, would be the first suggestion.
[21:42] <Gnea> meshuggah: I'm sure that www.pricewatch.com can fetch a reasonable price
[21:42] <imachine> osgeld, but if you feel adventurous and know your way about linux more or less, I've been using 9.04 + ext4 on two machines and had no major problems so far.
[21:42] <imachine> (and not many probably are on the way either)
[21:42] <Apolo> #ubuntu-br
[21:42] <imachine> osgeld, it works a charm, especially with ext4.
[21:42] <Gnea> Apolo: you need to type:  /join #ubuntu-br
[21:42] <Armin1> Hi!
[21:43] <sebsebseb> Armin1: hi
[21:43] <psychomantis> hi
[21:43] <caty> hi
[21:43] <osgeld> ive been using redhat based ones for years, 8.04 is the first deb based linux ive tried, and i like it much better, altho i dont know if i feel that adventurous
[21:43] <imachine> osgeld, despite the fact there were two or three minor setbacks for some time (delete hangs, and then there's some theoretical data loss possible, but that's possible with any system really, and it's not as if it's a bug, not even a design flaw I'd say)
[21:43] <RedWar> Hi Armin
[21:43] <Armin1> I need to set up TV-OUT with Ubuntu 9.04 and a ATI Mobility Radeon x1400. Any help?
[21:43] <Except> dotblank: http://intellinuxwireless.org/ says the drivers for my card are already in the kernel... or something
[21:43] <imachine> osgeld, it shouldn't eb a problem/.
[21:43] <imachine> osgeld, I recommend ext4 tho.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip1> osgeld: its good to try ultiple distros
[21:43] <dotblank> Except: Can you select an option with the second lowest version number without the word recovery
[21:43] <noks> hi
[21:43] <imachine> osgeld, you can always try it out in a virtual machine environment.
[21:43] <vidor> weird ... i put firefox in fullscreen mode using keyboard shortcut and put it back to regular and my bars are back....
[21:43] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know why ubuntu 8.04 on a toshiba laptop will not hold advanced desktop effects settings?
[21:43] <imachine> osgeld, like virtualbox or so ;]
[21:43] <osgeld> yea thats true
[21:44] <Except> dotblank: I can try...
[21:44] <miha> except which version?
[21:44] <psychomantis> clearly
[21:44] <osgeld> thats probably the way to go
[21:44] <Gnea> meshuggah: yes, while the minimum specs do say 256mb on the requirements, it is, just that: the minimum required.  that doesn't guarantee that it's going to be any faster.  elivecd is based on ubuntu but only requires 64mb of ram and a 100mhz cpu.
[21:44] <imachine> Sergeant_Pony, possibly due to a crappy graphics card.
[21:44] <Except> miha: 8.10
[21:44] <manpoole> so can someone help me out with connecting to a secured wpa wireless network and then disconnecting every minute? when the unsecured network stays connected?
[21:44] <dotblank> Except: if it worked before the upgrade this should give you internet
[21:44] <imachine> Sergeant_Pony, toshiba does many different laptops tho , so you'd have to be more specific.
[21:44] <Sergeant_Pony> imachine, ati built in
[21:44] <imachine> Sergeant_Pony, what model?
[21:44] <Except> dotblank: I understand. But then what do I do?
[21:44] <miha> except centrino 2 is from .27 kernel on
[21:44] <Gnea> meshuggah: and I highly doubt that 9.04 is going to offer any significant speed improvement with your system specs over 8.10
[21:44] <Sergeant_Pony> imachine, laptop or graphics card?
[21:44] <imachine> Sergeant_Pony, I'm pretty sure rage and friends don't support dri.
[21:44] <imachine> Sergeant_Pony, graphics
[21:44] <meshuggah> Gnea, ok
[21:45] <sebsebseb> Gnea: really he does not even have that system, he  is here to pretend to be noob now
[21:45] <imachine> Sergeant_Pony, at least dri for opengl in hardware.
[21:45] <Sergeant_Pony> imachine,  don't remember, how can I check?
[21:45] <imachine> ("hardware")
[21:45] <dotblank> Except: then we will have to get the latest drivers for your wireless card
[21:45] <imachine> Sergeant_Pony, lspci's your friend.
[21:45] <ActionParsnip1> meshuggah: on low ram systems, install lxde and you are golden
[21:45] <miha> except that should be
[21:45] <miha> 8.10
[21:45] <Except> miha: what does that mean for my wireless issue?
[21:45] <Armin1> TV Out with ATI? 9.04 X1400
[21:46] <dotblank> Except: with the internet back I can walk you through the steps
[21:46] <Except> dotblank: But they should already be part of the system... that's what intel's website says
[21:46] <miha> except do you get anything at  dmesg | grep wlan0
[21:46] <Gnea> sebsebseb: that's possible, but there's no need to be insulting.
[21:46] <Except> Ok ill try to reboot into ubuntu, i might take a few minutes.
[21:46] <imachine> Except, ideally you could connect over a wired connection, and then come by here for debugging help.
[21:46] <sebsebseb> Gnea: no I know, because of other channel
[21:46] <Sergeant_Pony> imachine, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[21:46] <imachine> Except, chances are, it's fixed in some new update, which you can pull over wired.
[21:46] <Gnea> sebsebseb: which one?
[21:46] <Except> I unfortunately dont have a wired connection available
[21:46] <imachine> Sergeant_Pony, no idea then.
[21:46] <imachine> Except, too bad :]
[21:46] <Except> The rpoblem is the new update CAUSED the problem
[21:47] <dotblank> Except: thats true, but if the current kernel broke it then we have to fix it. It might have already been fixed but the changes hasn't made it ubuntu yet
[21:47] <imachine> Except, what exactly did you update?
[21:47] <RedWar> On HARDY heron all, is pulseaudio friendlier than using alsamixer?
[21:47] <miha> except try booting to older kernel?
[21:47] <miha> you have last few, dont you?
[21:47] <dotblank> imachine: kernel most likely.
[21:47] <Except> imachine: UBuntu told me I had 277 new updates, and I just allowed it to update all of that.
[21:47] <imachine> dotblank, not necesarily
[21:47] <dotblank> imachine: yup
[21:47] <imachine> Except, 1) you can read update history in /var/log/dpkg.log
[21:47] <vassalli> ariciao
[21:48] <vassalli> scusate mi date una mano
[21:48] <crdlb> Sergeant_Pony: either enable the proprietary driver or upgrade to intrepid
[21:48] <vassalli> per la configurazione
[21:48] <Except> Ok, I need to be inside of ubuntu to do all this, so I'll reboot, and try to connect using pidgin... i might take a bit
[21:48] <vassalli> del mio monitor
[21:48] <ActionParsnip1> vassalli: itliano?
[21:48] <vassalli> scheda video nvidia gs 8400
[21:48] <imachine> Except, 2) you can try and roll back older .deb's of possibly errorous packages from /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:48] <guntbert> !it | vassalli
[21:48] <Armin1> I need to setup my TV-OUT. Anyone knows?
[21:48] <RedWar> ItaItItalian
[21:48] <olrrai> hi
[21:48] <Except> Thanks for everything if I don't make it back
[21:48] <dotblank> Except: if you get internet via the other kernel just install xchat
[21:48] <imachine> Except, you have to ofcourse first know what exactly could have caused your problems.
[21:48] <Except> dotblank: ok
[21:49] <imachine> Extend, cheers
[21:49] <Sergeant_Pony> crdlb, I'm using the proprietary drivers already... intrepid doesn't run right at all on this laptop, that's why the 8.04
[21:49] <olrrai> do u know how to share internet from ath0 to a bridge ?
[21:49] <dotblank> imachine: somtimes kernels brake compatability. chances are the bug was already found and he can install the latest wireless-compat
[21:50] <imachine> dotblank, right. we'll see.
[21:50]  * crdlb can't imagine not having a wired connection available ...
[21:50] <ActionParsnip1> !ics | olrrai
[21:50] <Duckthis> Can I reduce an ext3 partition in a logic partition to install XP on it?
[21:50] <imachine> dotblank, I know sometimes it could even be a networkamanger update causing compatibility issues with old config files.
[21:50] <imachine> dotblank, so it highly depends :]
[21:50] <crdlb> Sergeant_Pony: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:51] <imachine> dotblank, I'd first try creating another user and trying to log on to the wifi that way
[21:51] <imachine> if it doesn't work, I'd go at the logs.
[21:51] <imachine> that's what they're for.
[21:51] <plastun> how can i remove proprietary wifi driver?
[21:51] <dotblank> imachine: he says that when he attepts to connect his system freezes
[21:51] <imachine> plastun, system->adm->drivers
[21:51] <imachine> dotblank, looks hardware'ish
[21:51] <imachine> dotblank, so kernel'ish
[21:51] <imachine> dotblank, dunno :-) intel card was it?
[21:52] <dotblank> imachine: yup, and I asked if he just updated.. so all things point to kernel
[21:52] <plastun> as i understand, it just disable, not remove
[21:52] <imachine> dotblank, I guess using linux-backports-modules could help ;]
[21:52] <dotblank> imachine: AGN card too
[21:52] <imachine> plastun, dunno
[21:52] <xarus> Does anyone know how I can get this kind of cursor...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GQ52l15LrQ
[21:53] <imachine> plastun, possibly, yes. you can just list the package owning the file with dpkg tho.
[21:53] <imachine> plastun, then remove that package
[21:53] <dotblank> imachine: That would work. but the AGN chip I know is in the main kernel.. I think I fixed before actually
[21:53] <plastun> hmm. lsmod show me wl driver. I don;t want use it.
[21:53] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1:
[21:53] <masterkernel> test
[21:53] <VE2EBP> Parsnip, how do I delete my printer?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: sup
[21:53] <masterkernel> test
[21:53] <VE2EBP> ubuntu 8.1
[21:53] <dotblank> dotblank: I think the acer aspire has that chip and installing the latest drivers fixed it
[21:53] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: that webpage did not work, so I found a net5211 driver and used a GUI ndiswrapper on it
[21:53] <ActionParsnip1> VE2EBP: tab complete my name, makes things easier
[21:54] <Guest52106> ragazzi devo mettere il modem in modalità bridge ma nessuna voce nel menu del modem ne parla....come posso fare?
[21:54] <VE2EBP> k
[21:54] <imachine> plastun, modinfo wl; then just dpkg -S the file and you'll know what package owns it.
[21:54] <guntbert> masterkernel: please no tests here
[21:54] <miha> ve2ebp: by http://localhost:631
[21:54] <imachine> plastun, what's wrong with wl tho? it works ,afaik.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip1> VE2EBP: check in printer settings, you may find it there
[21:54] <miha> or by system/settings/printer
[21:54] <miha> same thing
[21:54] <imachine> dotblank, it is. but backports are often newer.
[21:54] <guntbert> !it | Guest52106
[21:54] <plastun> imachine, no
[21:54] <mrwes> !pasta
[21:54] <imachine> dotblank, dunno. sometimes the backported driver works better, sometimes worse, sometimes not at all :)
[21:54] <plastun> ifconfig show me eth0 and eth1
[21:55] <imachine> plastun, so eth1 is the one you need.
[21:55] <miha> why use backport anyway?
[21:55] <plastun> but eth1 looks like simple ethernet
[21:55] <miha> if you like use beta?
[21:55] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: It says"Hardware present: yes", so I pressed configure networks but it said"Could not find network configuration tool"
[21:55] <miha> or stay to main
[21:55] <imachine> plastun, run iwconfig and see.
[21:55] <plastun> iwconfig show me wlan0
[21:55] <imachine> miha, it just backports modules.
[21:55] <imachine> plastun, ifconfig -a shows you wlan0 ?
[21:55] <miha> imachine oh
[21:55] <imachine> miha, just the wireless modules, actually (I think at least)
[21:55] <Except> Hello all
[21:56] <dotblank> hes back
[21:56] <miha> imachine makes sense ok sorry :)
[21:56] <imachine> they're fairly stable, just newer. you can see for yourself.
[21:56] <Except> I'm NOT in Ubuntu
[21:56] <plastun> imachine, no, ifconfig show me eth1
[21:56] <Roasted> Is anybody really good with samba and windows/ubuntu networking?
[21:56] <dotblank> Except: NOO
[21:56] <imachine> plastun, ifconfig -a should show you all interfaces.
[21:56] <Except> dotblank: yeah, the older kernel didn't work
[21:56] <imachine> plastun, if it doesn't show you wlan0 and iwconfig does, you're reading something wrong.
[21:56] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: Any ideas?
[21:56] <imachine> plastun, or doing something wrong.
[21:56] <RedMushroom> what's the terminal command to display a list of local users on my machine?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: the guide tell how to get it going, you dont need ndiswrapper
[21:57] <dotblank> Except: Maybe imachine was right and has to due with NM
[21:57] <mrwes> RedMushroom, w
[21:57] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: The guide didn't work
[21:57] <plastun> imachine, why my LED indikator light when i switch off my wi-fi?
[21:57] <Except> What's NM?
[21:57] <imachine> Except, log into ubuntu, craete a new user, try logging in as teh new user and see if you can connect to wireless with that one.
[21:57] <imachine> plastun, ignore that
[21:57] <plastun> imachine, oh, no
[21:57] <imachine> plastun, leds aren't often supported.
[21:57] <plastun> )))
[21:57] <imachine> Except, networkmanager.
[21:57] <dotblank> Except: Network Manager, Is there anyway of getting the internet without wireless?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip1> !ndiswrapper | ubuntun00b10997
[21:57] <imachine> Except, the application responsible for your network settings.
[21:57] <guntbert> RedMushroom: cat /etc/passwd
[21:58] <Except> dotblank: no, that's not possible, unfortunately.
[21:58] <imachine> Except, try as I said, creating a new user and logging in from that account. if it works, the problem lies in your configs not being compatible with the new updates.
[21:58] <Except> dotblank, imachine: I'll try to do the new-user thing... but as soon as I log in it tries to auto-connect and the whole thing locks up so it might be difficult
[21:58] <imachine> Except, if it is so then you need to backup your ~/.gconf* and ~/.gnome* and remove them allowing gnome to recreate it. backup your evolution before that as well.
[21:58] <VE2EBP> Parsnip: test
[21:58]  * dotblank believes might be smarter then me
[21:59] <Except> I have no idea what 'evolution' is :)
[21:59] <miha> Except mail program by novell and adopted by gnome
[21:59] <dotblank> Except: you maybe able to clear the settings before logging in
[21:59] <zleap> evolution is a mail client
[21:59] <Except> well I know what it is in the Origin of Species way :)
[21:59] <miha> except we evolve right?
[21:59] <sebsebseb> Gnea: still here?
[22:00] <Except> dotblank: how do I do that: my user profile has nothing important, I can just wipe it...
[22:00] <imachine> Except, good. so try and do what I told you above, it might work spot on,
[22:00] <Alistrone> hi guys!
[22:00] <Gnea> sebsebseb: yo
[22:00] <miha> hi Alistrone
[22:00] <imachine> Except, but first create a new user to check if it's even that issue at all.
[22:00] <Except> Ok, I'm off again!
[22:00] <Alistrone> how are u?
[22:00] <Except> See you guys soon!
[22:00] <bazilius> Hi, everybody!
[22:00] <imachine> cheers. make sure you read everything I wrote.
[22:00] <Alistrone> hi
[22:00] <imachine> that was some quick reading.
[22:00] <Roasted> Is anybody really good with samba and windows/ubuntu networking?
[22:00] <sebsebseb> Gnea: I got banned for 24  hours from the other channel, for that,  but  I am loyal to this channel :)   and  I don't really care about the other one, becasue it's stupid
[22:00] <Alistrone> ubuntu is the best!!!!!
[22:00] <imachine> Roasted, define good.
[22:01] <ubuntun00b10997> sebsebseb: IT WORKS
[22:01] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: I bow down to j00
[22:01] <Alistrone> there are differences from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[22:01] <ubuntun00b10997> ActionParsnip1: You hath coaxed my interwebz to work
[22:01] <ubuntun00b10997> :D
[22:01] <imachine> Alistrone, like gnome and kde.
[22:01] <bazilius> Ubuntu forever!
[22:01] <Alistrone> ah ok
[22:01] <Alistrone> yes...othere differecnces?
[22:01] <smikec> I have a CanonMF5750 printer attached to a windows box. The printer is listed as a "paper weight" under the open source printing list. I have to imagine there is a way to send a generic post script or pdf to a windows share/server and have windows handle formating for the windows only print driver. I have no idea where to begin looking though. Any suggestions?
[22:02] <bazilius> Apolo
[22:02] <imachine> Alistrone, that's it
[22:02] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: good lad
[22:02] <Roasted> imachine - I have 1 XP laptop and two Ubuntu desktops, each with Samba. On the XP laptop, I can ping the primary Ubuntu Samba desktop, but I cannot ping the secondary Ubuntu Samba desktop. However, I can connect to it via IP address and ping via IP address, but not by computer name which I was hoping to do so it can be set up like the primary Ubuntu Samba Desktop.
[22:02] <Alistrone> ok...what to u like more?
[22:02] <imachine> Alistrone, pretty much at least. during kde 3.x times kubuntu seemed a little undeveloped in comparison with Ubuntu.
[22:02] <franck_> hello, where I can find french irc ubuntu ?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntun00b10997: reboot to check it comes up after a cold boot
[22:02] <imachine> Alistrone, but I think it's slowly catching up.
[22:02] <imachine> Alistrone, dunno, see for yourself.
[22:02] <emerson> how do I install xmms
[22:02] <Kanonkas> how do I install programs in linux?
[22:02] <Alistrone> catching up^----what means
[22:02] <Alistrone> ?
[22:02] <xray7224> franck_: #ubuntu-fr
[22:02] <franck_> thank's
[22:03] <mrwes> Roasted, did you add the machine IP and name to the Windows hosts file?
[22:03] <Roasted> emerson - sudo apt-get install xmms               <-- type that in terminal
[22:03] <imachine> Roasted, any firewalls?
[22:03] <imachine> Roasted, are they all in the same domain?
[22:03] <Alistrone> ok..
[22:03] <Roasted> mrwes - I did not, but I didn't do that for the primary Ubuntu Samba desktop either. So I'm not sure why it'd matter if I didn't do it.
[22:03] <Alistrone> thx
[22:03] <emerson> Roasted: isn't work anymore...
[22:03] <imachine> Alistrone, np
[22:03] <epqr_m> Kanonkas: terminal
[22:04] <emerson> has been removed from the repository I don't know why.
[22:04] <Roasted> imachine - No firewalls, all XP computers are on the workgroup "workgroup" and the smb.conf is pointed to workgroup in both scenarios.
[22:04] <imachine> no idea
[22:04] <imachine> Roasted, check logs
[22:04] <mrwes> Roasted, wins is on both?
[22:04] <imachine> :-)
[22:04] <jrib> !xmms | emerson
[22:04] <Roasted> mrwes - wins is NOT on both.
[22:04] <Roasted> emerson - I highly recommend audacious. Ive used it for a long time.
[22:04] <bazilius> What ani-virus programm would you recomend to use in Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:04] <sebsebseb> !virus
[22:05] <Roasted> imachine - what logs?
[22:05] <Alistrone> !virus
[22:05] <Alistrone> lol
[22:05] <mrwes> Roasted,  you set the netbios name on both?
[22:05] <martinkoelewijn> bazilius: I'm using ubuntu for 1,5 years now with a lot of messing around; no virus problems
[22:05] <Kanonkas> is it possible to install some software when using the live cd?
[22:05] <Roasted> mrwes - netbios is not set on either one.
[22:06] <xarus> Does anyone know how can I make my lil green runing guy show shut down function?
[22:06] <emerson> Roasted: cool I gonna try it but I've been using it for a long time but but is fine...many thanks man.
[22:06] <imachine> Roasted, samba logs
[22:06] <mrwes> Roasted, set the netbios name, I'm guessing they need to be different since you're running two samba servers, correct?
[22:07] <nottrobin> does anyone have experience with portable ubuntu (http://portableubuntu.sourceforge.net/) - I can't work out how to get Windows to ping it
[22:07] <Roasted> mrwes - wouldnt the netbios name simply be the hostname of each computer?
[22:07] <mrwes> Roasted, nod
[22:07] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: no, but have you considered a launcher with gksudo shutdown in command?
[22:07] <bazilius> martinkoelweijn: I don't believe that there is no risk...
[22:07] <Roasted> mrwes - each ubuntu machine is not set with netbios, and each ubuntu machine is named differently, with this beign said why would my main machine work with NO netbios?
[22:07] <Roasted> assumign netbios was required
[22:08] <Kanonkas> is it possible to install some software, when one use the live cd?
[22:08] <xray7224> Kanonkas: yes
[22:08] <bazilius> How can I use private chat here?
[22:08] <xarus> martinkoelewijn : how do I do that?
[22:08] <mrwes> Roasted, hell if I know :)
[22:08] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: all systems have a name
[22:08] <Kanonkas> but it asks me for a password xray7224
[22:08] <xray7224> possable you might want to go to system > administration > software sources
[22:09] <Roasted> Actionparsnip1 - I understand this, but I was saying that to eliviate from the fact that these two ubuntu machines COULD be named the same... but they are not in my acse.
[22:09] <Roasted> case*
[22:09] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: right click on panel > add to panel > custom launcher > in command field enter gksudo shutdown -hP now
[22:09] <Except> Hey all!
[22:09] <Except> Surprise! I'm NOT in Ubuntu
[22:09] <xarus> martinkoelewijn : You mean to close it by commands ? ooh yeah from 3 days till now I close it throught commands ( $ sudo shutdown -h now )
[22:09] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: it will ask for password, so accidentally clicking is no problem
[22:10] <Except> dotblank: I made a new user called Betty. I logged out, and logged in as Betty, and tried to connect -> and it hung again
[22:10] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: when they boot up, both systems will not get lan access, i'm unsure if an error is shown
[22:10] <HammerHead66> does anyone know how to read the ".xsession-errors"  file?
[22:10] <roadfish> what package do I need to install to get /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/build/.config
[22:10] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: this is no commandline, it is icon you can click on which asks for password and shut sdown
[22:11] <deadlyallance628>  i run a moto q9m as a usb modem with wvdial how can i route all the data to my eth0
[22:11] <zcat[1]> just finished a really nice install for a friend, decided to tody it up a bit, apt-get clean, remove the 'extra' kernels, etc... and I seem to have removed the running kernel!!! Now it boots right into memtest. Found a howto for fixing it, seems I'm not the first person who's ever done this ;)
[22:11] <nottrobin> does anyone know how networking works in Portable Ubuntu? (colinux)
[22:12] <dotblank> Except: I am sad for you.. without internet functionality it makes fixing this very hard. you could try an even older kernel
[22:12] <RedMushroom> how do i modify the owner of a folder?
[22:12] <bazilius> Does anybody know good IRC sites?
[22:12] <xarus> martinkoelewijn : :) the last "P" is for password? If I delete it will it , it will not ask me for password?
[22:12] <jrib> !permissions | RedMushroom
[22:12] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Each system has a different and unique host name, and each system has a different IP via my router acting as a DHCP server. I am unsure of how my primary desktop works perfectly and I do the same setup on the senodary setup and it fails to work fully. Again, it works by IP, I can go to start run and do
[22:12] <nottrobin> my windows instalation is on 192.168.0.2 - my colinux ubuntu installation is on 10.0.2.15
[22:12] <ActionParsnip1> zcat[1]: i think you will have to boot to livecd, chroot to the installed system and apt-get the kernel
[22:12] <irbdavid_> Hi: I installed opera from their .deb package on 9.04 beta, and it doesn't show up in the programs menu, and 'which' doesn't fid it either?
[22:12] <sebsebseb> nottrobin: no and that's unoffical program, and  you would be better off running Windows in a virtual machine or some such in Windows
[22:12] <Roasted> \\IP, and it works, but not by host name
[22:12] <nottrobin> ubuntu can ping wndows, windows cant ping ubuntu
[22:12] <roadfish> bazilius: best I've seen in freenode ... any you like?
[22:12] <imachine> Roasted, sorry, no idea mate.
[22:12] <xray7224> bazilius: a good irc channel is #megworld if you where asking that
[22:12] <imachine> Roasted, I rarely use samba anyway...
[22:12] <zcat[1]> ActionParsnip1, yep that's what the howto says.. livecd's finished booting, brb..
[22:12] <Except> dotblank: I'm not sure, I only have 23-7 and 23-11 in that menu to choose from
[22:12] <xray7224> if you where asking about clients xchat is good =]
[22:13] <Except> And both of them used to work
[22:13] <Philip> hey guys i need help for network settings. IT'S URGENT!
[22:13] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: i've seen issues with names to ip resolution. ive always used hosts files to circumvent
[22:13] <Roasted> imachine - I kind of have to, considering I run xp, vista, osx, and ubuntu :P
[22:13] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: no, the gksudo part is for password; the P part i dont know, is custom command i found somewhere on internet; if -h worked for you last days then use that
[22:13] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Where is the host file located?
[22:13] <bazilius> #megworld
[22:13] <deadlyallance628>  i run a moto q9m as a usb modem with wvdial how can i route all the data to my eth0
[22:13] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: /etc/hosts
[22:13] <imachine> Roasted, yeah , i understand. I just haven't ever setup a reasonably complex samba environment. just a pc2pc setup at best :)
[22:13] <imachine> eventually a printer or so
[22:13] <xarus> martinkoelewijn : ok thanks :)
[22:14] <Daniel1234> hi, I need some help with setting up some public/shared directories in Ubuntu. I am trying to set up Virtual box but instead of each person having a separate windows install, I want a shared install location that my users can access individually. Since only my /home is kept separate (for ease in upgrading) I was thinking of setting up a new user under /home with the install and giving r/w privs to all the people to that users fi
[22:14] <dotblank> Except: try booting the live cd and get on IRC then we might be able to do somthing
[22:14] <zcat[1]> bah, cd drive is a bit flakey too. might see if I have another one
[22:15] <Except> dotblank: Ok, but I dont have the Live CD with me, so I'll have to reburn it. I'll do that tonight. What do you think about re-installing Ubuntu, but doing the 8.04 thing?
[22:15] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - I'm confused over something. My main computer has 127.0.0.1	skynet	localhost.localdomain	localhost
[22:15] <Roasted> 127.0.1.1	jason-intrepid listed, and jason-intrepid is my OLD computer name. I changed it since then. Whereas my secondary computer has 127.0.0.1 localhost             127.0.1.1 UbuntuFOGDesktop in the host file.
[22:15] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: deleting gksudo part will not work, since you need password for shutdown command
[22:15] <VE2EBP> ActionParsnip1: Nope.. I sucessfully deinstalled the printer, reinstalled it and still nothing
[22:15] <dotblank> Except: I was thinking either reinstall or chrooting into your previous install and adding drivers that way
[22:16] <VE2EBP> ActionParsnip1: I think I might have to reinstall Ubuntu cuz even at times, applications close by themselves, pretty weird
[22:16] <Except> dotblank: yes but it'll take me longer to figure out how to do that than reinstalling
[22:16] <Except> Would you say installing 8.04 LTS or 8.10 again?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip1> VE2EBP: i'd read printer logs, see whats going on
[22:17] <xarus> martinkoelewijin : doesn't work... I don't know where I make the mistake...:((
[22:17] <xarus> I click on it and nothing happens :((
[22:17] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: what did you do?
[22:17] <dotblank> Except: wich one did you just use
[22:17] <zcat[1]> VE2EBP, I'd do a memtest first.
[22:17] <VE2EBP> let me check that
[22:17] <Except> dotblank: I used 8.10
[22:17] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: thats the name of your system you are sat at right
[22:17] <ActionParsnip1> ?
[22:17] <VE2EBP> zcat[1] how do you do a memtest
[22:17] <VE2EBP> sorry I'm green
[22:17] <dotblank> Except: yes go for 8.04 but 9.04 is less then a month away
[22:18] <zcat[1]> chose memtest at the grub menu (on your install or the live cd) and leave it running for a couple of hours
[22:18] <Except> dotblank: so... should I try 9.04 then?
[22:18] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Jason-intrepid is my old compute rname of my main computer. I changed it to skynet, and it works flawlessly under skynet. This change was done weeks ago. Yesterday is when I set up the secondary Samba computer. It's going to be used at work, I'm just setting it up here. I'm confused over why the "loopback" of the secondary shows 127.0.1.1.... not 0.0.1...
[22:18] <VE2EBP> Oh it's on the install CD?
[22:18] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: paste command you entered in command entry field here
[22:18] <VE2EBP> Or at the GRUB menu?
[22:18] <zcat[1]> VE2EBP, both
[22:18] <roadfish> is there some generic way to determine what Ubuntu package contains a certain file? ... for example something that is missing when I build source
[22:18] <VE2EBP> kk
[22:18] <VE2EBP> Tnx berry much
[22:19] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - But either way, I did not alter my /etc/hosts file on my main rig and XP computers can connect to it by hostname just fine, so I'm confused over how the secondary I'm setting up fails to work whent o best of what I can tell it's set up the same wa y.
[22:19] <VE2EBP> Like my daughter would say
[22:19] <dotblank> Except: 9.04 isnt out yet
[22:19] <xarus> gksudo shutdown -hP now... but I've tried even with gksudo shutdown -h now
[22:19] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: thats the loopback device that systems need to communicate with themselves
[22:19] <zcat[1]> VE2EBP, for stuff randomly segfaulting, the first thing to check is for bad memory..
[22:19] <user_> Roasted: packages.ubuntu.com (like i told earlier)
[22:19] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - I did a search in each smb.conf file, and there is NO instance of either hostname listed in either config file. I thought maybe the computer name must be put in the samba config file for it to work right.
[22:19] <user_> Roasted: sorry
[22:19] <Except> dotblank: ok... so I have no choice. I'll try 8.04.
[22:19] <Roasted> Yet they are each in the workgroup "workgroup"
[22:20] <user_> roadfish: packages.ubuntu.com
[22:20] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: its a glitch as some systems use .0.1 and some use .1.1
[22:20] <Roasted> should I let it 1.1?
[22:20] <Sylar> Good evening everyone. Can someone give me some pros and cons comparing Ubuntu with Opensuse linux?
[22:20] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: strange; no space in front of the line? what happens if you run this command in terminal?
[22:20] <user_> !best | Sylar
[22:20] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: yeah as its expected
[22:20] <xarus> ill tri it on terminal... one sec
[22:20] <roadfish> user_: tnx
[22:21] <xarus> ill tri it on terminal... one sec
[22:21] <Except> Does Linux also have the same issues with 64 bit vs 32 bit as windows: eg, driver incompatibilities, memory limits, software buods, etc?
[22:22] <xarus> It tells me some details
[22:22] <mrsteveman1> Except: most linux drivers come with the kernel, and have been ported to 64bit already
[22:22] <Except> mrsteveman1: ok, and programs?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip1> Except: nope its all good, java can be a pita but otherwise its great
[22:22] <xarus> that i should use...
[22:22] <Except> Ok ill try 64 bit then.
[22:22] <zcat[1]> Except, it used to... for the most part nowdays it can run 32 bit code in a wrapper if necessary
[22:22] <ActionParsnip1> Except: apps are compiled for both 64bit and 32bit
[22:23] <mrsteveman1> for things that are in the main or restricted repos in ubuntu 64 bit should work fine
[22:23] <dotblank> Except: Everything that isn't open source is a pita
[22:23] <ActionParsnip1> Except: you can even run 32bit apps with ia32-libs
[22:23] <zcat[1]> well, wrapper, libs, whatever.. some magic that lets me run both ;)
[22:24]  * dotblank calls for a census on 64bit users
[22:24] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: that you should use what?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip1> dotblank: runs flawless here
[22:24] <zcat[1]> Hehe.. friend gave me a toadsted mobo, amongst a pile of other junk.. noticed it still had a CPU on it, so I've now upgraded my 1.8ghz sempron to a 2.2ghz athalon x2.
[22:25] <Sylar> How can i use the ubuntu iso to run on virtualbox.
[22:25] <xarus> what is the site where I can paste ?
[22:25] <dotblank> ActionParsnip1: here as well 2.
[22:25] <sebsebseb> Sylar: download the ISO first got it?
[22:25] <Sylar> yes
[22:25] <zcat[1]> 64 bit here for the last few releases, no problems at all
[22:25] <dotblank> Anyone got the gtx 275 to work yet?
[22:25] <Sylar> do i have to put it on a cd?
[22:25] <sebsebseb> Sylar: 8.10 or 8.04?  and  to run on virtualbox is to try, and then you put on hard disk later for real?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | xarus
[22:25] <sebsebseb> Sylar: no virtualbox can use the ISO no need to put on CD
[22:25] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: go to ubuntuforums.org, in section general help you can start new thread
[22:25] <zcat[1]> Sylar, no just 'mount' the iso in virtualbox and it'll boot from it
[22:26] <Sylar> i downloaded 8.10
[22:26] <Sylar> it's on my desktop
[22:26] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: let's try wat ubottu said
[22:26] <xarus> thank you man :)
[22:26] <zcat[1]> how long till 9.04? about another week?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip1> Sylar: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/fil.ix /media/cdrom0; cd /media/cdrom0; ls
[22:26] <Sylar> =/ i have windows
[22:27] <xarus> first thing Ill translate it :))
[22:27] <meshuggah> zcat[1], about 1-2 weeks yes
[22:27] <zcat[1]> Jaunty is totally sweet.. been running it for months now!
[22:27] <ActionParsnip1> Sylar: if you want to install it you will need to burn the iso then
[22:27] <zcat[1]> cant wait for the release though, then I'll stop getting 600M of updates every day!
[22:27] <user_> !jaunty > zcat[1] you probably would have found that yourself ;-)
[22:27] <Sylar> i just want to test it out on a virtual machine first before i install it.
[22:27] <tsopp> <3 updates
[22:28] <megworld> Hello
[22:28] <ActionParsnip1> Sylar: then use vmware or virtualbox
[22:28] <Roasted> I have two Ubuntu machines, and each cannot ping each other by the computername, but they can ping each other by IP. Is htis normal?
[22:28] <colton_> list
[22:28] <Sylar> yes i have virtualbox but do i have to have it burned on a cd or can i use it off the desktop on windows
[22:28] <xarus> ok here goes... http://paste.ubuntu.com/149139/
[22:29] <tsopp> Sylar, yes you should be able to.
[22:29] <Sylar> ok, how much ram should be given to this os
[22:29] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: unless that computer name was assigned by a dhcp server, other systems don't know about it
[22:29] <meshuggah> Sylar, 512mb min
[22:29] <treffend> $(channel).2009-04-11.log
[22:29] <megworld> Sylar: in virtualbox ubuntu will run fine at 512
[22:29] <mrsteveman1> hostnames are local unless the dns server for a subnet knows about them
[22:30] <Sylar> what if i only 512 on my system.
[22:30] <Roasted> mrsteveman1 - Each computer is running DHCP but the computer name was put in manually by myself. I was just kind of surprised that Windows machines handle this yet Ubuntu to Ubuntu it can't ping by hostname like that.
[22:30] <zcat[1]> running ubuntu in virtualbox isn't a very realistic evaluation; you're limited by the host os's performance, and ubuntu is running on 'virtualbox' hardware, not the real stuff, so you won't see any potential driver issues
[22:30] <xarus> martin I have posted on the site http://paste.ubuntu.com/149139/
[22:30] <megworld> Sylar: id say best arould be 1gb but most poeple dont have that free
[22:30] <mrsteveman1> windows names are different, they use WINS which can be distributed, each computer in a subnet can actually ask others (with a broadcast) what ip belongs to a name
[22:30] <zcat[1]> probably better to see how hardware support is by booting the live cd
[22:30] <treffend> n Antwort ”Purple IRC” von blacknred0
[22:30] <mrsteveman1> dns is restricted to getting information from a single server
[22:30] <megworld> Sylar: you might not be able to run virtualbox with only 512 of ram
[22:31] <treffend>  512 of ram
[22:31] <Sylar> what about vmware then?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip1> mrsteveman1: any system (windows or linux can have multiple name servers)
[22:31] <megworld> sylar all virtualisation things wont run well with only 512
[22:31] <zcat[1]> same issue; virtualisation means you need enough ram to support both OSes
[22:31] <treffend> by the Konversation team” von bexamous
[22:31] <ActionParsnip1> zcat[1]: you can get a feel of what the OS is about though
[22:32] <exodus_ms> Sylar, It's not the application rather the load that virtualization puts on your host OS
[22:32] <meshuggah> dual boot tro try is great
[22:32] <mrsteveman1> actionparsnip1: i know
[22:32] <meshuggah> just shrink a partition
[22:32] <Sylar> so best thing to do would be to upgrade my ram
[22:32] <Sylar> first
[22:32] <sebsebseb> Sylar: or   wubi 8.10 and put 9.04 on for real later :)
[22:32] <treffend> (No route to host)
[22:32] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: I saw; that is like help for gksudo, it thinks -h is for gksudo instead of shutdown
[22:32] <sebsebseb> Sylar: that is   9.04 with Ext4,  assuming it's stable enough now
[22:32] <Sylar> whats wubi mean
[22:32] <sebsebseb> !wubi |  Sylar
[22:32] <zcat[1]> ActionParsnip1, well, kinda.. you get a feel for what it's like with windows hardware performance, minimal generic hardware support, and no 3d
[22:33] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: try without parameter: gksudo shutdown now
[22:33] <Sylar> coo
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Sylar: it's a bit pointless partitining your hard disk for 8.10 now,  with 9.04 just round the corner and all that
[22:33] <ActionParsnip1> zcat[1]: true but you can install apps and stuff but i get your point
[22:33] <Wicked> anyone have any clue as to why sound will just stop working in ubuntu? nothing will play or have sound.
[22:33] <megworld> Sylar: you can install 8.10 and when 9.04 comes out you can upgrade easily
[22:33] <treffend> conforming to RFC1459 and others, b
[22:33] <treffend>   	Modus  	+tncLfJ #ubuntu-unregged
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Sylar: you can upgrade 8.10 to 9.04, but  you can't get full Ext4 suppourt that way
[22:34] <sebsebseb> Sylar: the file system yeah
[22:34] <Sylar> i want to try it out first because i did the mistake of installing suse and it wasn't all to good
[22:34] <Sylar> i heard good things about ubuntu though
[22:34] <megworld> Sylar: the extra speed of ext4 wouldn't isn't something not to install over
[22:34] <sprinkmeier> Sylar, run it off the live CD if all you want to do is try it out for a bit
[22:34] <sebsebseb> megworld: says a reiserfs fan
[22:34] <dotblank> Sylar: Ext4 is only available if you manually set up the partition and tell it to format as ext4
[22:35] <megworld> Sylar ubuntu is good for beginers however it does also have a lot for the experanced user to do
[22:35] <Sylar> i really wanted to use it on a virtualmachine instead of burning it on a cd
[22:35] <sebsebseb> Sylar: you don't need to burn wubi to a CD
[22:35] <sebsebseb> Sylar: you just download it
[22:35] <zcat[1]> sprinkmeier, of course running it off the live cd also has drawbacks; you're limited in what you can add to the system, and performance is terrible
[22:35] <Ned__> I've been trying to install virtualbox 2.1.4 on ubuntu 8.10 and I just can't seem to do it. I've been wondering if there's some kind of a conflict with these two. I've only been able to install virtualbox 2.0.4. I'm a newbie so maybe I'm just doing something wrong.
[22:35] <megworld> Sylar: you might be able to use a lighter gui in virtual machine but gnome will be a little heavy
[22:35] <sebsebseb> Sylar: and I would recommend getting the wubi 8.04 version rather than the 8.10 version, but only, because you can  then install KDE3 from the repo :)   the older  very stable desktop environment
[22:35] <sprinkmeier> zcat[1], worse than a VM where the host has 512M or RAM? perhaps....
[22:35] <megworld> you might want to try xubuntu insted
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Sylar: as well as KDE4,   if you want to see all the main stuff, what I said ;)
[22:36] <user_> Ned__: why do you need 2.1.4?
[22:36] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: otherwise write script in texteditor; first line !#/bin/bash second line your command you used last days; save as .sh then in command entry for launcher fill in sh /path/to/file.sh
[22:36] <xarus> martin
[22:36] <Ned__> useer_, I don't know that I need it. I just thought it would be best because it's the latest version.
[22:36] <xarus> this one works gksudo shutdown now
[22:36] <zcat[1]> Sylar, I'd agree with doing a wubi install. You don't need to burn a CD just install a virtual CD driver (daemon tools? alcohol120%?) and use wubi from there
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Sylar: then  you can get a 9.04 CD  sorted out,  and install that later on.   9.04 is released on April 23rd by the way
[22:37] <martinkoelewijn> xarus: hurray, there you go
[22:37] <sprinkmeier> martinkoelewijn, xarus that's "#!/bin/bash"
[22:37] <xarus> thank you verry much :)
[22:37] <xarus> martin
[22:37] <megworld> Sylar: the irc channel #megworld has a good small amount of users which can help you get ubuntu running on little ram howver we will probabaly help you run it without gnome and use a lighter gui
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Sylar: if your computer has no CD drive,  then you can use deamontools in Windows yeah
[22:37] <unko> can someone help me with sun virtualbox?????//
[22:37] <xarus> :) n sprink :)
[22:37] <jdwarta1> when 9.04 is released, will i be able to just download it through update manager?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Sylar: don't join that channel
[22:37] <xarus> good night :)
[22:37] <matamou> jdwartal: yes
[22:37] <jdwarta1> cool
[22:37] <sebsebseb> megworld: you don't deserve to promote your channel here, because you troll this one for fun sometimes
[22:38] <megworld> Sylar this channel has a lot of help and support but because megworld is smaller we can put more time and effort in researching and experementing with you
[22:38]  * dotblank is scared of this process and cost him a system that had updated through 2 version
[22:38] <megworld> sebsebseb: megworld is not realted to any trolling which happens here
[22:38] <matamou> Why is it so that my usb devices wont be recognized by the system??
[22:38] <sebsebseb> megworld: lies
[22:38] <user_> unko: we can help with virtualbox-ose ubuntu package, upstream support is in #virtualbox
[22:38] <dotblank> or vbox
[22:38] <sprinkmeier> matamou, which device?
[22:38] <Ned__> so it shouldn't be a problem if I can only install virtualbox 2.0.4 on my ubuntu 8.10? I want to run windows on it.
[22:38] <unko> user_, ok thanksss
[22:39] <matamou> usb hard-drive, memory sticks etc.
[22:39] <user_> Ned__: which windows?
[22:39] <matamou> usb mouse is recognized, though
[22:39] <zcat[1]> Ned__, windows runs fine in virtualbox-ose, just no 3d or USB support is the main difference
[22:39] <megworld> sebsebseb: you might have had some bad experances with some users within megworld however that does not mean its the channels fault the indervidual users are to blame, if you want to argue this case feel free to pm me and please stay on topic
[22:39] <sprinkmeier> matamou, it's been ages since I've had any problems with things like that. which distro/version are you running?
[22:39] <Ned__> user_, I prefer to try windows 7
[22:39] <sebsebseb> !ot |  megworld
[22:39] <matamou> sprinkmeier: Ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[22:40] <sebsebseb> megworld: lol  at you pretending to care about the #ubuntu rules
[22:40] <Barridus> can someone assist me in adding a document launcher to the top panel?  i can never seem to get it to work
[22:40] <megworld> sebsebseb: im not protending
[22:40] <sprinkmeier> matamou, OK... can you run "lsusb" before and after inserting the device?
[22:40] <Ned__> I've been thinking maybe I should just stick with virtualbox 2.0.4 until I figure all this out
[22:40] <megworld> sebsebseb: may i pm you please ?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> megworld: yep
[22:40] <Ned__> zcat[1],  ok thanks
[22:41] <user_> Ned__: cant tell you from personal experience, but 204 should be fine for it. just stick with 204 for now to avoid getting in trouble
[22:41] <exodus_ms> megworld, sebastien why not just squash this and help Sylar here in the channel together
[22:41] <megworld> thankyou sebsebseb
[22:41] <matamou> ok, what should i see?
[22:41] <zcat[1]> weird, got through an entire install and ripped two audio CDs with this drive.. but now it's started making a buzzy sound and won't even boot the live CD
[22:41] <megworld> exodus_ms: yes i will im sorry i wasnt aware of the rule sebsebseb kindly pointed out
[22:41] <zcat[1]> .. donated hardware.. yay
[22:41] <ActionParsnip1> zcat[1]: try powering off for 10 mins or so
[22:42] <Ned__> user_, ok I'll stick with 2.0.4 for now
[22:42] <RedWar> Zcat how old is the drive?
[22:42] <zcat[1]> nah, will replace the drive. I have spares, just none of the others are burners.
[22:42] <sprinkmeier> matamou, there should be a few extra lines. The imporant things are the vendor and product ID. You should be able to google for those (include "ubuntu" inthe search) to find ifg anyone else has had any problems. Also, check the last few lines of /var/log/messages to see what you system thinks of the new device
[22:42] <zcat[1]> no idea. I get donated old computers and give them to kids
[22:42] <vitopoma> hi
[22:43] <jdu> zcat[1], freegeek type thing?
[22:43] <zcat[1]> .. usually with xubuntu on them, but this one's high enough spec that I did the full ubuntu, compiz, emerald thing
[22:43] <abhishekiitd> hey people i just installed emifreq-applet, but i cant find the icon to run it
[22:43] <RedWar> A just cause Zcat1
[22:43] <vitopoma> how can i boot grub from grub?
[22:43] <zcat[1]> yeah, working on freegeek.co.nz .. need a place other than my lounge room ;)
[22:44] <zcat[1]> err freegeek.org.nz rather. registered the domain, no website there yet ;)
[22:44] <jdu> zcat[1], so are you officially a freegeek or becoming one?
[22:44] <matamou> sprinkmeier: Thanks, I found a couple of promising leads from google !
[22:44] <abhishekiitd> hey people i just installed emifreq-applet, but i cant find the icon to run it
[22:44] <sprinkmeier> matamou, GIYF :-)
[22:44] <vitopoma> i want to grub the bootloader in another partition when i select a menu entry. it is possible?
[22:44] <zcat[1]> jdu, becoming one. Pretty determined to get it all set up.
[22:45] <vitopoma> i want to boot the bootloader in another partition when i select a menu entry. it is possible?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip1> vitopoma: just add the other OS boots to have 1 grub
[22:45] <zcat[1]> right now it's just one geek with some free time
[22:45] <peacewise> hey videos not running on mozilla linux
[22:45] <[Valar]^> hi niggers
[22:45] <megworld> you can edit grub to boot from other things via /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:45] <peacewise> youtube
[22:45] <abhishekiitd> hey people i just installed emifreq-applet, but i cant find the icon to run it
[22:46] <jdu> zcat[1], awesome!  we have here 4 regular volunteers but not yet officially freegeek
[22:46] <ActionParsnip1> [Valar]^: keep is civil
[22:46] <Louis> i detect /b/
[22:46] <peacewise> anyone who uses foxyproxy?
[22:46] <megworld> peacewise: that is because you need flash, best way to get propritory codecs is install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:46] <vitopoma> what are the  commands?
[22:46] <vitopoma> chanloader +1?
[22:46] <Louis> peacewise:  check out medibuntu as well
[22:46] <vitopoma> chainloader +1?
[22:47] <vitopoma> makeactive?
[22:47] <megworld> chanloader + 1 would be for example windows
[22:47] <jdu> chainloader gives control to another boot loader, lie windows
[22:47] <jdu> s/lie/like
[22:48] <vitopoma> so can i do root (hdx, x)
[22:48] <peacewise> anyone who uses foxyproxy??
[22:48] <zcat[1]> jdu, I also gotta figure out something to do with the waste other than piling it up in my garage .. fortunately we have eday once a year so at least it's getting disposed of properly
[22:48] <Louis> !patience|peacewise
[22:48] <vitopoma> then chainloader +1
[22:48] <vitopoma> then makeactive
[22:48] <vitopoma> and then boot?
[22:48] <jdu> zcat[1], we use a place in Indianapolis that uses prison labor...
[22:49] <jdu> vitopoma, I believe so.  But you shouldn't have to chainload grub.
[22:49] <jdu> normally
[22:49] <Raptor-Jesus> I installed a compiz theme, how do i add it?
[22:50] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, how to downgrade ubuntu intrepid?
[22:50] <jdu> Raptor-Jesus, drag and drop it into themes and then select it.
[22:50] <abhishekiitd> hey people i just installed emifreq-applet, but i cant find the icon to run it
[22:50] <megworld> unitedpotsmokers: i dont beleve you can.
[22:50] <megworld> abhishekiitd: type alt + F2 and type the name of it
[22:50] <jdu> unitedpotsmokers, reinstall
[22:50] <vitopoma> how can i do? without chainload?
[22:50] <unitedpotsmokers> megworld: because i want to re-update, and save update packages...
[22:50] <jdu> vitopoma, explain the scenario again
[22:51] <ActionParsnip1> vitopoma: sure but make sure the correct partition is referenced
[22:51] <caty> are there any good touch type progarms on ubuntu?
[22:51] <Hassanakevazir> does any one has one of those one line commands to add a pgp key from a launchpad repository? i need an example
[22:51] <zcat[1]> darn, lost my nvidia drivers too.. 'ubuntu is starting in 320x240 resolution' ;)
[22:51] <megworld> unitedpotsmokers: i think you can only upgrade if you want to downgrade you will have to re-install
[22:51] <unitedpotsmokers> ok thanks guys...
[22:52] <abhishekiitd> megworld:but i run using that too
[22:52] <Verruckter> hey
[22:52] <abhishekiitd> megworld:but i cant*
[22:52] <sebsebseb> Verruckter: hi
[22:52] <Verruckter> am I in the right channel to ask for help ^
[22:52] <peacewise> from where can i get ubuntu wallpapers
[22:52] <sebsebseb> Verruckter: yep
[22:52] <Verruckter> oh, awesome
[22:52] <megworld> abhishekiitd: is there a error message ?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> !asjk
[22:52] <sebsebseb> !ask
[22:52] <Louis> peacewise:  google or www.gnome-look.org
[22:52] <jdu> vitopoma, probably you can use the whole hd# syntax to specify where the os is, and then you are done.
[22:53] <abhishekiitd> megworld:could not open location emifreq-applet
[22:53] <caty> are there any good touch type progarms on ubuntu?
[22:53] <jdu> caty, to learn on?
[22:53] <zcat[1]> feature request; apt-get dist-downgrade ;)
[22:53] <caty> jdu, yep
[22:53] <megworld> abhishekiitd: can you please go to terminal and type emifre and then press tab
[22:53] <jdu> caty,  tuxtype  may be good for a kid
[22:53] <eilios> Hello, I have a kind of strange question. I was using the internet when all of a sudden everything crashed, but when I logged out and logged back in everything worked, and has worked for about an hour.
[22:54] <megworld> it should give the name full name incase there is more to add to it.
[22:54] <caty> jdu, any others
[22:54] <ActionParsnip1> eilios: read dmesg
[22:54] <ActionParsnip1> eilios: dmesg | less
[22:54] <zcat[1]> tuxtype sucks, to be blunt. someone needs to do a decent set of lessons
[22:54] <vitopoma> i wanted to boot a boot loader in a partition (sdc3) (hd2, 2) of my USB drive from the bootloader present in my sda drive (hd0,0)
[22:54] <jdu> caty, I know there is a gnu project one   gnutype?
[22:54] <megworld> eilios: that sounds like something wrong with Xorg
[22:54] <Verruckter> alright, heres my problem: I just install the nVidia drivers for my graphics card. That means I had to quit xserver (or something, I dont know much about ubuntu yet). now everything seems to have been successful, except for the fact that my resolution is very small and I cant change it in the resolution preferences. When I open the nvidia x server control panel, it tells me that Im not using the nVidia driver settings, and to resta
[22:54] <nightrid3r> caty: gcompriz has a who set of educational programs
[22:54] <zcat[1]> the program itself is good, but needs heaps more lessons seriously
[22:54] <eilios> The weird thing is I didn't use xfix
[22:54] <ActionParsnip1> vitopoma: then add the hd2,2 entry to the other menu.list
[22:55] <eilios> It just started back up
[22:55] <abhishekiitd> megworld:when i oressed tab it changed to emifreqd
[22:55] <caty> nightrid3r, ty
[22:55] <megworld> abhishekiitd: is that the program you where looking for ? sometims package names and the program name you run them by are different
[22:55] <Louis> are there any *nix programs comparable to LOIC in the repos?
[22:56] <RedMushroom> how do i delete a directory even if it's not empty?
[22:56] <CetiEel> Is there any nice comand I can use to find out what brand of graphics card I have? (I'm on my moms comp and have no clue of the specs so I'd like to know :P)
[22:56] <abhishekiitd> megworld:the package name is emifreq applet, but how can i  what is the program name to run by?
[22:57] <megworld> try doing alt + F2 and type what came up when you hit tab in terminal
[22:57] <nightrid3r> RedMushroom: rm -rf <dirname>
[22:57] <vitopoma> the problem is if there is a kernel upgrade in the distro i have in sdc, the menu.lst of sda isn't updated
[22:57] <Hassanakevazir> Verruckter, try running: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:57] <Verruckter> I did, it tells me its unable to write in directory etc/X11
[22:57] <abhishekiitd> megworld:nothing happened
[22:58] <abhishekiitd> megworld:not even an error message
[22:58] <RedMushroom> when i try "sudo rmdir -p /etc/ftpuser" i get an error saying the directory's not empty. how do i correct this?
[22:58] <Louis> Does anybody  know of an open source equivalent of  low-orbit ion cannon?
[22:58] <vitopoma> only that of sdc is automatically updated
[22:58] <zcat[1]> RedMushroom, sudo rm -rf /etc/ftpuser
[22:58] <ActionParsnip1> RedMushroom: if you are SURE you want the folder removing (as well as all its contents) i can advise
[22:58]  * RedMushroom facepalms at Louis
[22:59] <RedMushroom> zcat[1]: thanks
[22:59] <megworld> abhishekiitd: i think the program is running then
[22:59] <RedMushroom> ActionParsnip1: yeah, i'm uninstalling proftpd and it left a few things behind
[22:59] <zcat[1]> RedMushroom, just remember rm -rf never asks 'are you sure?'
[22:59] <Louis> RedMushroom:  i'm actualy dead serious.  pentesting purposes...
[22:59] <ActionParsnip1> RedMushroom: yep, thats it, just make sure you dont need anything in the folder at all
[22:59] <RedMushroom> i dont
[22:59] <abhishekiitd> megworld:even i think so, but i cant see it running!
[22:59] <beware> i think ubuntu has a religious hate for being logged in as root, because every single instruction involves "sudo" before the command
[22:59] <Louis> i wonder if it'll run in wine
[22:59] <ActionParsnip1> beware: its not hate, its smart
[23:00] <knoxville> security is key!
[23:00] <Verruckter> heh
[23:00] <ActionParsnip1> beware: it adds a tonne of security to your system, once you are setup you rarely need sudo
[23:00] <Verruckter> security is confusing :(
[23:00] <vitopoma> so if i don't change it manally sdc don't work after a kernel update
[23:00] <zcat[1]> beware, there's always sudo -i if you really must have a rootshell.. just don't blame us if you fat-finger your system
[23:00] <eilios> Beware: That's because ubuntu is designed to be easy to use, and people who need to use easier to use distros(instead of something like gentoo) generally shouldn't be fooling around with root.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip1> Verruckter: its easy, run as little as you can as root and you'll be ok
[23:00] <megworld> abhishekiitd: to check is a program is running go to terminal and type "ps aux | grep <program name>"
[23:00] <megworld> beware: you can keep a sudo'd terminal by sudo -i
[23:00] <peacewise> how to install compiz through terminal i tried... sudo apt-get install compiz but it gave me sum administrator msg..
[23:01] <beware> im really a debian person. i got into ubuntu sideways, so to speak
[23:01] <eilios> Peace: Can you give us the message?
[23:01] <Louis> peacewise:  what version of ubuntu are you running? compiz is included since hardy, i think...
[23:01] <ActionParsnip1> peacewise: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:01] <megworld> peacewise: ubuntu comes with compiz allready installed please go to system > preferances > apperiance and then the last tab
[23:01] <Verruckter> I ran nvidia-xconfig as sudo and it worked, but not I still cant access my nvidia x server config
[23:01] <vitopoma> so if i don't change it manally sdc don't boot after a kernel update
[23:01] <Verruckter> now*
[23:02] <abhishekiitd> megworld:i got some reply after using that command, but how can i see the program window
[23:02] <zcat[1]> compiz is installed by default, just no way ofconfiguring it beyond the basic no/some/more effects
[23:02] <ActionParsnip1> Verruckter: you run it with gksudo
[23:02] <knoxville> why do you feel making a custom kernel is such a big deal?
[23:02] <eilios> Verru: It's in administration, are you admin?
[23:02] <Verruckter> yeah
[23:02] <Verruckter> I am
[23:02] <megworld> abhishekiitd: if you get more than two replys from it then its running
[23:02] <Verruckter> well heres the error I get word for word
[23:02] <jdwarta1> how do i make myself the admin?
[23:02] <megworld> if you only get 1 its not
[23:03] <ActionParsnip1> jdwarta1: sudo -i
[23:03] <vitopoma> because grub in sda doesn't know care about menu.lst in sdc
[23:03] <megworld> abhishekiitd: which reply will start with the user its running under
[23:03] <abhishekiitd> megworld:i got 6 replies, but where is the program window
[23:03] <ActionParsnip1> jdwarta1: provided your user is a member of the admin group (the first account you create is)
[23:03] <Hassanakevazir> Verruckter, what does it say when you run: gksudo nvidia-settings  ?
[23:03] <Verruckter> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration (jusr run nvidia-xconfig as root) and restart  the x server
[23:03] <epqr_m> man i always ger thea
[23:03] <megworld> abhishekiitd: it could be a command line program or a underlieing one meaning there isnt one
[23:03] <ActionParsnip1> Verruckter: did you install nvidia drivers?
[23:03] <Verruckter> yes, I did
[23:04] <vitopoma> it is for this reason i wanted chainload grub ;)
[23:04] <epqr_m> these stupid problems with kubuntu
[23:04] <Verruckter> it says it backed up the file
[23:04] <jdwarta1> ActionParsnip1: idk.......i installed ubuntu about 5 days ago
[23:04] <jdwarta1> ActionParsnip1: so i guess i am admin
[23:04] <Verruckter> xorg.conf
[23:04] <ActionParsnip1> Verruckter: did you run sudo nvidia-xconfig then restart x server
[23:04] <Verruckter> uh
[23:04] <epqr_m> after an update i cant get a ui so to speak
[23:04] <Verruckter> how do you restart x server ?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip1> jdwarta1: then its already done, use sudo and gksudo for admin tasks
[23:04] <zcat[1]> ahhh well, I've managed to completely recover from my little screwup.. kernel and nvidia drivers all reinstalled, everything back to how it was.. now I have some dishes to do
[23:04] <RedMushroom> what's the command to remove a user?
[23:04] <zidan> hello all
[23:04] <epqr_m> only 'terrminal'
[23:04] <Verruckter> is it /etc/init.d/gdm retart
[23:04] <megworld> jdwarta1: by admin i think you mean root you dont run as root as its unsafe but root in the terminal can be achived by sudo
[23:04] <ActionParsnip1> Verruckter: ctrl+alt+backspace
[23:04] <Louis> hello zidan!
[23:04] <Verruckter> ah
[23:04] <Verruckter> ok then hold on
[23:04] <Hassanakevazir> Verruckter, save
[23:05] <W0rmDr1nk> hi
[23:05] <megworld> hello zidan
[23:05] <abhishekiitd> megworld:ok maybe.thanks a lot!
[23:05] <W0rmDr1nk> is there a good free offline dictionary ?
[23:05] <Hassanakevazir> Verruckter, save if you got anything
[23:05] <jdwarta1> ActionParsnip1: ok....whenever i turn on terminal, the first thing that i do is make myself root
[23:05] <megworld> abhishekiitd: your welcome
[23:05] <epqr_m> and when i type kdm or plasma it says the packages is not installed
[23:05] <jdwarta1> ActionParsnip1: saves time
[23:05] <ActionParsnip1> jdwarta1: no, you can ruin ownership of files with that
[23:05] <megworld> jdwarta1: thats not advisable you only need to be root for particular commands
[23:05] <jdwarta1> ActionParsnip1: i am the only user
[23:05] <ActionParsnip1> jdwarta1: no, as you dont need full acces for day to day tasks do you
[23:05] <Louis> jdwarta1:  terrible, terrible idea
[23:05] <jdwarta1> ActionParsnip1: ok, ok
[23:06] <ActionParsnip1> jdwarta1: you dont need root access for web browsing
[23:06] <jdwarta1> ActionParsnip1: lol
[23:06] <megworld> equally you shouldnt run commands with sudo without knowing what they do
[23:06] <jdwarta1> ok
[23:06] <jrib> s/with sudo//
[23:06] <ActionParsnip1> jdwarta1: thats why root is disabled, so new users dont log onto it and wreck their systems and expose themselves to pain
[23:06] <Louis> As a matter of interest... what exactly is the difference between root and sudo besides the sudo timeout?
[23:06] <jdwarta1> lol.......that's me
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> jdwarta1: as i said, once the system is setup the only real time you'll need it is for updates
[23:07] <jdwarta1> ok
[23:07] <nightrid3r> jdwarta1: linux allows you to shoot in your foot, root allows you to shoot off your leg, chose wisely
[23:07] <megworld> Louis: nothing sudo is intended to run indervidual commands
[23:07] <jdwarta1> lol
[23:07] <Louis> megworld:  that's what i figured.  cool thanks!
[23:08] <vitopoma> why grub gives me error 2 when i try to chaiload it?
[23:08] <vitopoma> why grub gives me error 2 when i try to chainload it?
[23:08] <megworld> jdwarta1: there are some poeple around irc/forums and other places which seek to get you to run dangrous commands for this reason you only use root when you know what the command does
[23:08] <zidan> is root for getting permission
[23:08] <ultimatelifeform> ﻿Hey, will my GeForce GO 6150 card work with Ubuntu?
[23:08] <exodus_ms> !hardware
[23:08] <ActionParsnip1> ultimatelifeform: yep as i use one
[23:08] <ultimatelifeform> ActionParsnip1: what driver version?
[23:08] <megworld> a top tip is if the command has just / in it you should really request a secondry source to verify the command
[23:08] <ActionParsnip1> ultimatelifeform: sudo apt-get instal nvidia-glx-180; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:08] <epqr_m> zidan: root can mess with all files onthe system
[23:09] <Louis> zidan:  root gives you access to all files and directories in your installation.  needless to say it is very dangerous.  Use sudo instead
[23:09] <epqr_m> full premission
[23:09] <ultimatelifeform> ActionParsnip1: Ok, with SUSE I have to compile it and everything. :(
[23:09] <zidan> just what i thought
[23:09] <ultimatelifeform> And they're telling me that I can't do a one click install.
[23:09] <vitopoma> maybe usb hard disk is not supported in grub?
[23:09] <unop> Louis, that's as if to say sudo will protect you from all things dangerous :) when it doesn;t.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip1> ultimatelifeform: you can use the file from www.nvidia.com
[23:09] <ActionParsnip1> ultimatelifeform: in suse
[23:10] <Louis> unop:  right. i didn't mean to imply that... but if i'm not mistaken, sudo is considered to be preferable because of the timeout
[23:10] <Roasted> Shouldn't Linux computers be able to ping one another by hostname?? I cannot figure out for the life of me why I can only ping by ip
[23:10] <megworld> sudo is just as dangrous as su
[23:10] <Ned__> If I install windows 7 on virtualbox 2.0.4, then later upgrade to 2.1.4, is that going to be a problem?
[23:11] <Verruckter> aah
[23:11] <Verruckter> well, it seems to have worked
[23:11] <megworld> Ned__: shouldn't be i don't think
[23:11] <cjb_ie> Roasted: do your nameservers know about the hostnames?
[23:11] <unop> Louis, well, it's preferrable if you want to run something as another user (temporarily perhaps) - but it doesn't timeout when you do something like,   sudo -i
[23:11] <deany> Ned__, upgrade the guest additions, should be ok
[23:11] <Ned__> ok thanks
[23:11] <Verruckter> except I still get that error when I try to launch the nvidia x server settings
[23:11] <wyn> i lost my 8.10(64) internet connection after i install vmware workstation 6.5
[23:11] <Verruckter> but my resolution is fine now
[23:11] <Louis> unop:  right, but for most purposes, sudo -i is a bad idea, isn't it/
[23:12] <wyn> i uninstall the vmware but i still don't get back my internet connection
[23:12] <zidan> is anyone here running on a 64 bit version of linux
[23:12] <wyn> how can i troubleshoot it
[23:12] <unop> Louis, is it? that's a relative disposition .. you do need it sometimes. but it's so convenient, you don't want to build a habit out of it.
[23:12] <wyn> i can ping the gateway fine but i cannot go out to the internet
[23:13] <eseven73> !enter | wyn
[23:13] <vitopoma> is it possible chainload grub with grub?
[23:13] <Louis> unop:  i think we're actually in agreement here =)  sudo is preferable unless some third consideration makes sudo -i more convenient.
[23:13] <wyn> srry ubottu, i will do so to ur suggestion. a bit frustrated with the problem atm ....
[23:13] <Roasted> cjb_ie - What do you mean? I havent dealt with namservers...
[23:13] <Hassanakevazir> Verruckter, run: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then take a look under "Section "Device"" , what is the name of the Driver?
[23:14] <megworld> wyn: ubuntu is a bot
[23:14] <megworld> not ubuntu
[23:14] <eseven73> ubottu*
[23:14] <megworld> yeh
[23:14] <Navaz> Hello Room
[23:14] <eseven73> :)
[23:14] <megworld> thanks eseven73 =]
[23:14] <watermouf> hi i just installed ubuntu for the first time
[23:14] <megworld> hello Navaz
[23:14] <Navaz> This is a Navaz a new user (couple of days) in Ubuntu
[23:14] <Verruckter> it says "nvidia"
[23:14] <watermouf> can anybody give me some tips and hints
[23:14] <Navaz> Hello Megworld.
[23:14] <wyn> well, i gave my respect the bot ...
[23:14] <megworld> that you did =]
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Navaz: ok what do you want help with
[23:15] <Navaz> It sounds interesting to have Ubuntu 8.10 in my laptop
[23:15] <eilios> Water, the first thing you should do is install what you want
[23:15] <wyn> lol
[23:15] <watermouf> im running the updates now
[23:15] <unop> Louis, well, you could say that. but i'm not in favour of the argument that sudo should be favoured over other means of becoming the superuser .. if that makes sense?
[23:15] <watermouf> 287 of them
[23:15] <Navaz> Everything is fine but the internet connection is the trouble for me
[23:15] <zidan> i got it on my laptop=)
[23:15] <eilios> If you are more of a gamer you should get Wine on the computer
[23:15] <watermouf> running it on my laptop
[23:15] <eilios> If you like to chat get xchat
[23:15] <Navaz> UT-300R2U USB is the Modem model
[23:15] <watermouf> i have a nvidia card tho and the drivers wont download
[23:15] <eilios> Et cetera.
[23:15] <Navaz> I am from India
[23:15] <unop> Louis, it's off topic and against the channel's policy anyway ..
[23:15] <watermouf> from the built in drivers applications
[23:15] <Mike94287> Does anyone have a good printer recommendation? After switching to Ubuntu my Lexmark printer stopped working and I'm in need of a new one.
[23:15] <eilios> I have an nvidia card too
[23:15] <Hassanakevazir> Verruckter, then you are using the nvidia driver, I don't know what the nvidia-settings behaves that way, maybe a complete reboot? just guessing...
[23:16] <Hassanakevazir> why*
[23:16] <Louis> unop:  yeah i see what you're saying.  I tend to be too careful anyway =)  Anyway, we can leave it at that
[23:16] <watermouf> its a geforce go 6150 i think
[23:16] <Navaz> I use BSNL as my internet connection with UT-300R2U USB modem
[23:16] <eilios> Hmm
[23:16] <eilios> Try using envy
[23:16] <Navaz> However, the connection is greyed out...
[23:16] <watermouf> whats envy ?
[23:16] <watermouf> the driver apps suggests a new driver
[23:16] <Navaz> Any help would be greatly appreicatable.
[23:16] <Louis> !envy|watermouf
[23:16] <Navaz> I have few documents but nothing helped me as such
[23:16] <Verruckter> yeah, well, when I rebooted xserver, I had that window prompt where it asked my to chose the driver according to the card series and the monitor model I had
[23:16] <watermouf> but when i go to acitivate it starts to download and just cancels out
[23:16] <Louis> watermouf:  that said, i use it on many machines
[23:16] <Verruckter> I chose all of them carefully, I'
[23:16] <eilios> Hmm
[23:16] <eilios> That happens sometimes
[23:17] <Verruckter> sorry, i'll try to reboot*
[23:17] <eilios> The update fixed that for me
[23:17] <watermouf> any idea why the standard method fails ?
[23:17] <Ned__> I'm using xchat and I  can't get the timestamp to work. I typed '/set stamp_text_format = %H:%M:%S' but nothing happens
[23:17] <eilios> Water
[23:17] <eseven73> don't use spaces
[23:17] <eilios> I had that problem
[23:17] <eilios> The update fixed it
[23:18] <Navaz> Any help guys?
[23:18] <watermouf> thats what i figured
[23:18] <watermouf> thought i would jump into a chatroom find some info
[23:18] <watermouf> while its loading
[23:18] <watermouf> i have never ran linux before
[23:18] <fx3> Ned__, works fine for me, whats happening on yours?
[23:18] <knoxville> watermouf, Woo Woo! linux!
[23:18] <Louis> watermouf, you came to the right place
[23:18] <watermouf> i still have xp on dual boot
[23:18] <knoxville> Linux is where hopes and dreams come true!
[23:19] <watermouf> but hopefully i can merge over to ubuntu
[23:19] <eilios> Watermouf, if you find yourself stressed out in the terminal type "apt-get moo"
[23:19] <eilios> Without quotations
[23:19] <Ned__> fx3, nothing happens...no timestamp...that's the problem
[23:19] <knoxville> watermouf, thats fine, most people do at first
[23:19] <JessicaParker> can anyone assist on the best partition sizes for a new ubuntu server installation - just need some advice ?
[23:19] <JessicaParker> thanks
[23:19] <knoxville> watermouf, learn about virtualization so you can run multiple os at same time
[23:19] <watermouf> the terminal seems to be the dos of ubuntu correct ?
[23:19] <Louis> watermouf:  actually a lot of seasoned *nix users have a small windows partition... you just never know when you'll need to run some obscure software
[23:19] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | Navaz
[23:19] <knoxville> watermouf, yes sir, but better ;)
[23:19] <fx3> Ned__, /set stamp_log = on
[23:19] <swearengen> server s
[23:19] <eseven73> !cli | watermouf
[23:19] <ActionParsnip1> watermouf: kinda but terminal has a million times more power
[23:20] <watermouf> it reminds me of logging into cisco routers
[23:20] <fx3> Ned__, eeeer hold on
[23:20] <thebackwash> jessicapa: maybe you can tell us a little more about what you're doing with the machine
[23:20] <fx3> Ned__, /set stamp_text = on
[23:20] <clouder`grr> is there a difference between dvd-rw and dvd+rw in terms of bootable, longevity, or anything other than just ensuring your writer supports it?
[23:20] <fx3> Ned__, this isnt really an ubuntu specific question, however, ill let you off this time
[23:20] <ActionParsnip1> watermouf: i think cisco uses a modifed unix os of sorts
[23:20] <Ned__> fx3 ok...sorry
[23:20] <watermouf> so is there a online refrence somebody could refer me too that could help me get famiralized with the terminal
[23:20] <watermouf> im a dos expert lol
[23:20] <swearengen> anyone here use mindmapping software
[23:20] <fx3> Ned__, but did that work for you?
[23:20] <swearengen> freemind doesnt seem to do well in ubuntu
[23:21] <thebackwash> watermouf: softpanarama.org
[23:21] <Ned__> fx3 no it didn't
[23:21] <swearengen> watermouf: I like ss64.com/bash
[23:21] <jdwarta> how can i adjust partion sizes at this point?  I would like to reduce the space alotted for XP and let ubuntu have more space
[23:21] <thebackwash> watermouf: has some great tutorials
[23:21] <watermouf> thank u
[23:21] <eseven73> clouder`grr, good question, I never could figure out whats the diff of dvd/cd + RW and dvd/cd -RW
[23:21] <fx3> Ned__,
[23:21] <eseven73> both have 'rw'
[23:21] <Louis> watermouf:  well you can google tutorials of basic terminal commands, but at the end of the day, the more you use the terminal (and look up specific commands), the more comfortable you'll get with it
[23:21] <RedMushroom> how do i search for things i can install with sudo apt-get install?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip1> clouder`grr: i think its a layout thing, 2 standards were released and both were taken equally, new drives can use both equally, neither is any better
[23:21] <fx3> Ned__, /set stamp_text = 1
[23:21] <ActionParsnip1> RedMushroom: apt-cache search <something>
[23:21] <watermouf> and is there a way for me to access my ntfs files from within ubuntu
[23:21] <RedMushroom> ie, i know which program, just not what it's named in there
[23:21] <RedMushroom> thanks
[23:21] <clouder`grr> ActionParsnip1: alright thanks
[23:22] <ActionParsnip1> !ntfs-3g | watermouf
[23:22] <Louis> watermouf:  ntfs partitions should be mountable
[23:22] <thebackwash> redmushro: apt-get list | grep THE_PACKAGE_YOU'RE_LOOKING_FOR
[23:22] <jdwarta> watermouf: yes
[23:22] <Verruckter> heh, didnt work. I still get that message and for some reason when I rebooted it sent me to that other window where you chose your driver and monitor settings
[23:22] <watermouf> u guys are to helpful
[23:22] <Louis> we try =)
[23:22] <watermouf> def saving this room for future
[23:22] <timeouter> hi
[23:22] <jdwarta> watermouf: go to your home folder
[23:22] <Ned__> fx3, that didn't work either...funny thing is, every time I type a command, I get a response saying '....set to...', as if the timestamp was set...but nothing happens
[23:22] <timeouter> how can i find out the video card in my system ?
[23:22] <watermouf> okay im in home
[23:23] <timeouter> via shell
[23:23] <Louis> timeouter:  lspci is a good start
[23:23] <ActionParsnip1> timeouter: lspci | grep -i vga
[23:23] <jdwarta> watermouf: now in the tree, click file system
[23:23] <fx3> Ned__, check the stuff written when you type /set on its own
[23:23] <jdwarta> watermouf: then click host
[23:23] <watermouf> fantastic
[23:23] <watermouf> woohoo im a linux expert
[23:23] <jdwarta> watermouf: quite easy!
[23:23] <jdwarta> watermouf: lol
[23:23] <watermouf> yeah i have to learn all the folders and stuff
[23:24] <timeouter> guess it's a Radeon 8500 LE then
[23:24] <watermouf> this reminds me a lot of os x
[23:24] <timeouter> thanks ActionParsnip1
[23:24] <eseven73> directories*
[23:24] <swearengen> In GParted it shows /dev/sda1 (where cough "vista" is and I assume boot) and then /dev/sda2/ as an extended file system then sda5 (jaunty beta fresh install) sda6 linux swap and sda7 (formatted to ext3) im trying to put the space that was sda7 (originally intrepid before formatting + supergrub restoring) into this partition
[23:24] <eseven73> not folders
[23:24] <watermouf> i have been a windows guys since 3.11
[23:24] <eseven73> ;)
[23:24] <spaceBARbarian> how can i change the minimum required length for a password ?
[23:24] <jdwarta> watermouf: me 2
[23:24] <watermouf> never could get use to the mac
[23:24] <x0d> vista?  what's vista?
[23:24] <jdwarta> watermouf: i love the mac
[23:24] <watermouf> i ran ubuntu in vmware and decided i want it on
[23:24] <timeouter> could it be a Radeon 9800 ?
[23:24] <fx3> jdwarta, right on !
[23:24] <jdwarta> watermouf: then i used XP for 3 years
[23:24] <nightrid3r> watermouf: jdwarta osx is based on bsd which is similar to linux
[23:24] <jdwarta> watermouf: now Ubuntu
[23:24] <watermouf> i mean on the mac i double click the title bars to maximize and it does the opposite
[23:25] <Leemp> Anyone using the ubuntu beta? Any comments on its stability?
[23:25] <eseven73> its good
[23:25] <swearengen> i dual boot because i need MS Office for work leave mah alone ! =P
[23:25] <eseven73> but don't talk about it here
[23:25] <eseven73> !jaunty
[23:25] <Louis> nightrid3r:  i thought the only similarity was posix compliance?
[23:25] <watermouf> i knew osx was linux based
[23:25] <Leemp> eseven73: Thanks
[23:25] <Shinu> !free
[23:25] <eilios> Water: Ubuntu is a huge step up from mac. Mac focuses on making their system usable out of the box, but they don't let you configure your system. With linux you can configure nearly anything.
[23:25] <watermouf> ubuntu is closer to osx than windows
[23:25] <eilios> Watermouf: If you want it to be more like windows try KDE
[23:25] <watermouf> but has almost a perfect combination of the two
[23:25] <thebackwash> watermouf: check out windowshade x for mac
[23:25] <jdwarta> watermouf: maybe i have an advantage......a mac was my first computer
[23:25] <nightrid3r> Louis: i mean look and feel
[23:25] <swearengen> so just because i mentioned this was jaunty you guys wont help me extend the partition?
[23:25] <jdwarta> watermouf: GO MAC!!!
[23:26] <x0d> Freedom is best when its both free as in speech and free as in beer
[23:26] <Louis> nightrid3r:  you mean with gnome?
[23:26] <eseven73> I think osx is based on UNIX not Linux. least thats what ive always thought
[23:26] <thebackwash> watermouf: it will let you change the minimization behavior, including classic macos-style windowshade
[23:26] <watermouf> i dunno the difference between unix or linux
[23:26] <ActionParsnip1> os x is based on BSD
[23:26] <nightrid3r> Louis: nuder the hood (cli, file structure ...)
[23:26] <spaceBARbarian> how can i change the minimum required length for a password ?
[23:26] <watermouf> so sorry for the wrong termonology
[23:26] <thebackwash> ok all i got a thought
[23:26] <x0d> jdwarta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)
[23:26] <thebackwash> see what you think
[23:26] <fx3> eilios, still, i hate the fact that all linux window managers try to impersonate windows, like, none that do what macs have, use of keyboard, the app windows, etc
[23:26] <Roasted> In XP, you can ping other computers by hostname just fine. In Linux, I'm trying to ping another Linux computer on the network I cannot, yet pinging by IP works. Does Linux not support pinging by hostname or something???
[23:27] <watermouf> from what i understand linux/unix is just the terminal
[23:27] <watermouf> ubuntu is like a fancy gui
[23:27] <watermouf> am i correct
[23:27] <eseven73> nope
[23:27] <jdwarta> my headphones don't work consistantly!!
[23:27] <eilios> Fx: I don't like KDE personally.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | fx3
[23:27] <thebackwash> that merely by its existence, free software allows its users the same freedoms even if they don't personally use it
[23:27] <thebackwash> what do you guys think?
[23:27] <thebackwash> like for example
[23:27] <evantandersen> where is my libnl file in ubuntu?
[23:27] <thebackwash> if people want to be free, they ARE just by the existence of free software
[23:28] <adi1> hi all
[23:28] <agrume> roasterd I can ping other computer by linux
[23:28] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: ive seen this, is your routers ip listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:28] <fx3> Roasted, in windows you are pinging by NetBIOS name, or something, so linux uses only propper DNS resolving. Computer names wont work in linux unless you run a DNS server
[23:28] <thebackwash> like, you can choose to exercise your freedom of speech, or not, but it's still there regardless
[23:28] <jdwarta> x0d: have u read about NExT?    great little program
[23:28] <slerder> Hey guys I have a truecrypt volume (an entire partition) and it doesnt show up in ubuntu "Computer" where all the rest of the drives are. Howver when I made a new partition and then encrypted it with truecrypt this one does show up in ubuntu and windows. Any idea on how to make the partition not show up anywhere? thanks
[23:28] <ActionParsnip1> fx3: most routers can perform a basic dns
[23:28] <agrume> roasted: what is your problem exactly?
[23:28] <x0d> Nextstep?
[23:28] <jdwarta> x0d:  if Steve Jobs hadn't been so stuborn, thats what we would all be using instead of XP
[23:29] <fx3> Roasted, a quick fix would be to add the hosts you want to /etc/resolv.conf
[23:29] <fx3> ActionParsnip1, i have never got that to work, if you can explain it to Roasted and me i would be very glad =)
[23:29] <watermouf> anyway i can turn off annoucnemnts for people entering and exiting this room
[23:29] <watermouf> im using pigdin the default chat client
[23:29] <jdwarta> watermouf: good question
[23:29] <adi1> does anybody noticed that in epiphany browser you cant modify anything in about:config...
[23:29] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: fx3: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[23:29] <Zirg> Hey Gang. Attempted to update LTS to LTS (via the net) and am having major difficulties. Can someone look at this paste with me and suggest a way to overcome these dependency failures??
[23:29] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: go into your routers control panel and you should be able to add a hostname mapping
[23:29] <adi1> is anyone fmailiar with this bug
[23:29] <Zirg> http://rafb.net/p/au0GRS14.html
[23:29] <Mike94287> Does anyone have a good printer recommendation? After switching to Ubuntu my Lexmark printer stopped working and I'm in need of a new one.
[23:29] <watermouf> im trying to just read and keep up and the volume of people going and leaving is annoying
[23:30] <Louis> stupid battery...
[23:30] <Zirg> Hey Gang. Attempted to update LTS to LTS (via the net) and am having major difficulties. Can someone look at this paste with me and suggest a way to overcome these dependency failures??    http://rafb.net/p/au0GRS14.html
[23:30] <watermouf> this is linux tho right
[23:30] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: fx3: add a line     nameserver 192.168.0.1      assuming thats your routers ip
[23:30] <Zirg> (fam dingers, anyhow)
[23:30] <watermouf> i was told we can customize anything
[23:30] <fx3> ActionParsnip1, ill pretend to read that as sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[23:30] <watermouf> :P
[23:30] <ActionParsnip1> fx3: whatever editor floats your boat
[23:30] <eilios> Water: Try Xchat
[23:30] <Ned__> watermouf, yeah if your screen is small its hard to keep up
[23:30] <watermouf> well im on a laptop running 800X600 cuz of my video driver situation
[23:30] <eilios> Xchat is the mIRC of cross-platform clients
[23:31] <ActionParsnip1> watermouf: the linux bit is the kernel, the thing around it is a distribution of linux
[23:31] <fx3> ActionParsnip1, yea, got the line there from the start, anything else?
[23:31] <watermouf> that was my other question any good website with database of linux software
[23:31] <ActionParsnip1> fx3: that should do it
[23:31] <deany> Xchat is free mind you on linux, and not on windows.
[23:31] <adi1> anyone use epiphany browser here?
[23:31] <Ned__> I tried chatting on pidgin and didn't like it
[23:31] <watermouf> i just dont want to install a ton of software off the bat
[23:31] <ActionParsnip1> Ned__: thats like marmite, either love it or hate it
[23:31] <fx3> ActionParsnip1, hmm, perhaps my router is *too* basic ?
[23:31] <watermouf> another question sorry
[23:31] <popey> yum!
[23:31] <deany> Chatzilla is good too.
[23:32] <popey> (marmite hilight)
[23:32] <watermouf> if i install at ton of software
[23:32] <watermouf> and unistall
[23:32] <watermouf> do they leave fingerprints
[23:32] <watermouf> like windows unisntalls always do
[23:32] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - I'm confused over something. Say I would set up a network of 2,000 Ubuntu machines. Essentially, unless I edited each one, I wouldn't be able to ping ANY of them without the IP. Right?
[23:32] <FloodBot2> watermouf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <deany> only in ~
[23:32] <popey> watermouf: no, not if you purge them
[23:32] <ActionParsnip1> fx3: possibly, i use hosts files anyhoo, all my desktops are on static so it makes stuff fastter for resolving names
[23:32] <eilios> Water: That's a windows issue.
[23:32] <jdwarta> deany: what is the command-line code to install Xchat
[23:32] <Louis> watermouf:  the only thing which i believe is left behind is configuration files.  try "sudo apt-get remove --purge"
[23:32] <mythman> Had a brain fade how do I install Mythbuntu on a Ubuntu 8.10 desktop install
[23:32] <watermouf> sorry!
[23:32] <eilios> sudo apt-get install xchat
[23:32] <popey> watermouf: in fact if you autoremove they remote the package and the dependants
[23:32] <nightrid3r> fx3: if your router is to basic you can use these nameservers 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[23:32] <Ned__> ActionParsnip1, are there people in here that actually prefers chatting on IRC on pidgin to other clients?
[23:32] <deany> they usually leave a .name in your home folder.. even with purge.
[23:32] <fx3> ActionParsnip1, ahh, fair enough, cant use that in my situation
[23:32] <deany> sadly
[23:32] <ActionParsnip1> Ned__: i do
[23:33] <eilios> Jd: Sudo apt-get install xchat
[23:33] <Ned__> ActionParsnip1, I see
[23:33] <fx3> nightrid3r, what i ment is local area network resolution, like XP is able to do, not the whole internet DNS thing
[23:33] <watermouf> but the unistalls arent as messy and windows ? where it leaves dll and other strange shit in 10 different folders
[23:33] <ultimatelifeform> can I get my broadcom 43xx and nVidia graphics card working in Kubuntu 8.04?
[23:33] <deany> watermouf, not at all
[23:33] <nightrid3r> fx3: sorry, my bad
[23:33] <craig131_> I would switch to ubuntu if iTunes worked on it
[23:33] <ActionParsnip1> Ned__: i use about 7 of its other protocols so its nonesensical to use an extra app when the pidgin i use for the other chats does what i need for irc
[23:33] <eilios> Water: Try to watch the language, but that is not the case
[23:33] <deany> watermouf, only talkin config files, for your particular user.
[23:33] <Louis> craig131_  have you tried songbird or amarok?
[23:34] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Was I correct?
[23:34] <mrwes> +1 on Pidgin -- not bad for irc
[23:34] <deany> easy to just rm -rf .name
[23:34] <fx3> watermouf, sometime programs leave configuration files that have been edited after installation, but thats not a problem since they arent executed or anything, most of them reside in the /etc folder
[23:34] <jdwarta> craig131_: I like amarok
[23:34] <Louis> watermouf:  afaik, no.  uninstalls are very clean in linux. this is because of shared libraries, as i understand it
[23:34] <aaronator> hi everyone
[23:35] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: then you would need to edit your dhcp servers to give out the info for dns servers, you should also run a dns server to speed up name resolution
[23:35] <eilios> Hello.
[23:35] <thebackwash> aaronator: yo
[23:35]  * PhxMan needs help disabeling screensaver through a command line. Once I enter the screensaver program my computer locks "molecules" freezes everything
[23:35] <craig131_> @louis: yea but I'd like to use the iTunes store
[23:35] <RedWar> Guys, out of everyone here, Iam sure that some ppl here have played eve online, anyone here ever able to get the last version working here?
[23:35] <aaronator> how's the support going today
[23:35] <eilios> RedWar: Try WINE
[23:35] <Louis> craig131_  aaah... you pay for music =)
[23:35] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - I'm just confused over how XP does this out of the box but it seems like a lot of editing is needed JUST to enable Linux machines to ping one another by hostname, which I find kind of ridiculous.
[23:35] <fx3> aaronator, ask a question and we'll see ;)
[23:36] <Ned__> ActionParsnip1, ok, sorry for assuming not many people like it
[23:36] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: why cant windows mount iso without the need for extra software
[23:36] <mrwes> heh
[23:36] <eilios> Louis: Why do you prefer iTunes? MagnaTune is pretty good.
[23:36] <RedWar> Elllod is that actually working for u?
[23:36] <jdwarta_> i think i like pidgin better
[23:36] <watermouf> so what are other popular linux distrubutions
[23:36] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: its a different OS with different quirks
[23:36] <mrwes> or read PDF's
[23:36] <watermouf> i have heard of redhat for years
[23:36] <ActionParsnip1> Ned__: i love it
[23:36] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Yeah yeah, I understand that, but something like a simple networking option like PING you'd think would logically be set up already.
[23:36] <craig131_> @louis haha yep I'm old fashioned
[23:36] <ActionParsnip1> Ned__: assume nothing
[23:36] <Louis> eilios:  i don't use itunes...
[23:36] <fx3> Roasted, XP uses a proprietary name resolution protocol on top of DNS, it is both slow and buggy, implementing it in linux would be a waste, Choose DNS
[23:36] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: as stated before, Windows is using WINS, not DNS, to resolve those computer names
[23:36] <eilios> Louis: Pardon, Craig.
[23:36] <TeamColtra> Hey I have a weird problem and I do not even know how to really discribe it: Currently I am putting Ubuntu on a laptop of mine, and when it first installs (and in LiveCD) the desktop goes off the screen (like its too big to fit). So I found the proper resolution and set it to that; but now my screen has like 4 copies of itself in strips accross the screen, and there is lines through it
[23:36] <mrsteveman1> Linux does implement WINS, its part of samba
[23:36] <aaronator> fx3: how can I upgrade the firmware on my scr331 smartcard reader without using a windows box
[23:36] <Roasted> mrsteveeman1 - Ahh, I forgot about wins...
[23:36] <Louis> eilios!  how dare you! =)
[23:37] <eilios> :(
[23:37] <eilios> "P
[23:37] <eilios> Oh dear, my typing is seriously off today
[23:37] <fx3> aaronator, ummm, no idea sorry =)
[23:37] <PhxMan> Does anyone know how to delete the preferences from screensaver or disable screen saver without opening the program? It locks my computer everytime it runs!!!
[23:37] <craig131_> Lol
[23:37] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - So more or less, if I had 2 thousand Ubuntu machines to set up, what would I have to do to enable each one to ping one another by hostname?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: maybe your system needs extra stuff to resolve the name, maybe your router is lacking something, who knows
[23:37] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: works fine here
[23:37] <aaronator> ^^;
[23:37] <Zirg> what does the error     cannot configure (current status `config-files')    mean to me? is it trying to tell me that some config files needs handled, somewhere? (no curses windows are open)
[23:37] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - You have two Ubuntu machines on your LAN that can pign one another by hostname??
[23:38] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: indeed
[23:38] <RedWar> Everytime I have tried to  install, it gets stuck
[23:38] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: if you had 2000 ubuntu machines to setup, you would probably be using a directory service, which would include identity management and a domain server
[23:38] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: use top, check what process uses all your cpu and kill with "kill pid", pid being the pid number, the first number on the line
[23:38] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Well, that only enrages me. I have no idea what's messed up with my LAN then. Even my iBook cannot ping by hostname to my Ubuntu machines.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: i'd run a local dns server for anything more than 10 systems for name resolutions
[23:38] <fx3> Roasted, if you want this kind of functionality out of the box you should look at something like mDNS responder, or something alike. ZeroConf DNS or something
[23:38] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Are you running a DNS server now? Or do you just have a simple lan with a router?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: check in your router for dhcp clients and it should be listed
[23:39] <Aquahallic> Afternoon folks
[23:39] <PhxMan> Hey Martinkoelewij. what is top? Once the screensaver starts I can't do anything like try to kill the program
[23:39] <ultimatelifeform> can I get my nVidia card and Broadcom wireless working in Kubuntu 8.04?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: i have a dns on my fileserver, speeds up web browsing slightly
[23:39] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: in Preferences > screensaver you can modify settings, or is that freezing?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: so everything i need is in there
[23:39] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - I did, Im looking at my router's DHCP table right now. I can see all of the computers DHCP IP address and the computer name of each. Yet I CANNOT ping any of them on my Ubuntu machine, whether it's another Ubuntu computer or XP, but I CAN ping all of them via IP.
[23:40] <ultimatelifeform> can I get my nVidia card and Broadcom wireless working in Kubuntu 8.04?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: then i dont know what to advise
[23:40] <TeamColtra> Honestly, if someone could tell me simply what to call the screen doing what its doing.. because googling "weird screen resoultion" is a bit broad :P
[23:40] <Aquahallic> I compiled a driver for a hauppauge card using V4L that was not in the ubuntu package list.. I now need to remove it.... I did a Make && Make Install... how would I go about uninstalling this driver and kernel modules?
[23:40] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn:  yes even that freezes....
[23:40] <Zirg> ultimatelifeform, i've used both, w/o issue in 8.04 and up
[23:40] <ActionParsnip1> ultimatelifeform: sure, what broadcom chip?
[23:40] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Are you suggesting that if my router can pick up the computer hostnames + DHCP IP addresses then there's no reason why my Ubuntu computer cannot ping another computer on the LAN via hostname?
[23:40] <fx3> Roasted, i believe this is what you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf
[23:40] <ultimatelifeform> broadcom 43xx
[23:40] <ActionParsnip1> !broadcom | ultimatelifeform
[23:40] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn: it's because it tries to start running "molecules" screen saver which must be too much for my PC to handle so I'm trying to disable it
[23:41] <ultimatelifeform> kk
[23:41] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: if its in the router it should be translatable
[23:41] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: run hostname on the machine you are trying to ping with, if it doesn't know it is supposed to be part of a domain it won't know how to resolve a single hostname
[23:41] <ultimatelifeform> Thanks guys.
[23:41] <PhxMan> does that make sense?
[23:41] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn:
[23:41] <ultimatelifeform> Going in to install now.
[23:41] <jdwarta> my headphones work sparaticly........help!!
[23:41] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: folder /usr/lib/xscreensaver contains your screensavers. You can empty that.
[23:41] <PhxMan> I don't have that folder
[23:41] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: i'm not the best guy to ask as i like to configure my systems fully myself so everything is under control. i hate automagic stuff.
[23:41] <PhxMan> i've looked for it
[23:41] <RedMushroom> i've messed up the permissions on my /etc/ directory, and don't know what to put into chmod to put them back to they way they're supposed to be
[23:42] <RedMushroom> can anyone tell me please?
[23:42] <the_padawan> msg NickServ identify aniket2
[23:42] <RedMushroom> 8-|
[23:42] <fx3> ActionParsnip1, thats fine if you run 5 or so machines, when you got a massive network it becomes a headache =)
[23:42] <RedMushroom> wrong window padawan, change your pw quick
[23:42] <ActionParsnip1> RedMushroom: heres mine: http://pastebin.com/fd91d8e7
[23:43] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn:  oh woops I do have that folder. I just can't delete anything (how do i get root permissions?)
[23:43] <spunk> RedMushroom: 755 on directories, 644 on files.
[23:43] <Roasted> I'm still just kind of surprised that Ubuntu can't handle this out of the box. I thought something as simple as ping via hostname would work fine. I mean I can ping web sites by their domain name, I just can't ping local computers on my router, which is laughable and confusing.
[23:43] <mrwes> RedMushroom, I believe /etc is 0755
[23:43] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: maybe you just need some small extra config adding, log a bug
[23:43] <nightrid3r> Roasted: the problem is in your router, not in ubuntu
[23:43] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan:  you need root right for that, be careful with that though. Use gksudo nautilus. Better first try to find useful key in gconf editor
[23:43] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: loggin bugs gets things fixed
[23:43] <RedWar> Is there a wine channel?
[23:43] <RedMushroom> thanks. is there any way to specify how to make that work?
[23:44] <Roasted> nightrid3r - it's a problem with my... router??
[23:44] <kerlo> Ello. Quite often, applications that are supposed to produce sound don't. Rebooting usually fixes the problem. No, it's not something silly; both mute controls are off, all three volume controls are turned up, and my headphones are not broken.
[23:44] <jrib> Roasted: well are you using your router for dns?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip1> RedWar: #winehq
[23:44] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn:  I just switched to ubuntu from winXP so that made no sense to me :-)
[23:44] <Roasted> jrib - Yes. My router shows all of the computer names and IPs of the DHCP clients on the network.
[23:44] <Roasted> int he dHCP client table
[23:44] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: wait up, I'm searching
[23:44] <RedWar> Thanks Roasted.
[23:44] <eilios> Phx, you know how windows makes the first user "admin" and gives him right to do everything?
[23:44] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn: thank you
[23:44] <spunk> RedMushroom: Actually, if you make them all 755 you'll be fine I think.
[23:44] <kerlo> In Sound Preferences, there are various options, including ALSA and OSS; clicking "Test" on some of these produces no sound, and on the others it produces an error message.
[23:44] <cjb_ie> Roasted: well then your router should be passing that info on
[23:44] <jrib> Roasted: meh, should work then.  wfm
[23:44] <PhxMan> yes elios
[23:45] <ttl2> i want to copy my entire linux filesystem to a backup drive, are there any speed differences between using cp and rsync? what would be the fastest tool to use in order to do this.
[23:45] <spunk> RedMushroom: chmod -R 755 /etc/*
[23:45] <eilios> The idea of linux is the admin is a seperate account that other users can use
[23:45] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: can you nslookup the name
[23:45] <eilios> Sudo basically tells root(admin) to do something
[23:45] <eilios> It keeps users from accidentally destroying their computer because of admin rights
[23:45] <fx3> Roasted, did you read the link i posted to you? mdns is installed by default and just needs enabling. please see if this is what you require
[23:45] <PhxMan> hmmm so can I sudo without using the terminal? Like can i enable that idea in a folder window?
[23:45] <whileimhere> hi there. how do I get the pkg manager to update to the newest ubuntu
[23:45] <mrwes> RedMushroom, add sudo in front of that
[23:45] <jrib> !upgrade | whileimhere
[23:45] <palomer> how do I switch my system to icewm?
[23:45] <RedMushroom> yup
[23:45] <eilios> gksudo is like that
[23:46] <PhxMan> how do u run that
[23:46] <eilios> Type gksudo nautilus
[23:46] <ActionParsnip1> palomer: install icewm, log off, set session type to icewm, log on
[23:46] <mkasson> how do I move icons/widgets around on my "taskbar" (panel?)
[23:46] <PhxMan> OK I just ran it
[23:46] <RedMushroom> crap, sudo doesn't work anymore
[23:46] <Roasted> jrib - So you are saying that sinc emy router is logging the information (host names, ip addresses) that my router should be working fine with Ubuntu pinging other computers on the LAN via hostname?
[23:46] <mrwes> ActionParsnip1, will icewm automatically be added to the gdm options?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip1> mrwes: depends how its installed, i'd imagine so
[23:47] <RedMushroom> what's the default su password?
[23:47] <u22> Where can I find the files that describe various keymaps, such as us_dvorak?
[23:47] <jrib> Roasted: I use my router as the dns server and it works that way yes
[23:47] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: if you nslookup the ubuntu hostname, does it work ok
[23:47] <jrib> !root | RedMushroom
[23:47] <spunk> RedMushroom: boot a live CD and fix it.
[23:47] <cchaos> hello
[23:47] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: your router/dhcp server needs to be sending your client machines a search domain
[23:47] <ActionParsnip1> RedMushroom: there isnt one, use  sudo -i   instead
[23:47] <whileimhere> Hi again sorry those links for upgrading show me how to upgrade to 8.10 not the newest version I am at 8.10
[23:47] <Roasted> jason@skynet:~$ nslookup UbuntuFOGDesktop
[23:47] <Roasted> Server:		68.87.75.194
[23:47] <Roasted> Address:	68.87.75.194#53
[23:47] <Roasted> ** server can't find UbuntuFOGDesktop: NXDOMAIN
[23:47] <Roasted> jason@skynet:~$
[23:47] <FloodBot2> Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <Roasted> '
[23:48] <jrib> whileimhere: 8.10 is the newest version.
[23:48] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: do ALT+F2, type gconf and click the app Configuration editor. On the left, open apps>gnome-screensaver and there you have your settings
[23:48] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: is that right?
[23:48] <whileimhere> I thought there was a 9.04 coming out
[23:48] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: what kind of router is this
[23:48] <jrib> whileimhere: yes, it's still in development
[23:48] <jrib> !jaunty | whileimhere
[23:48] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - Can you hear me?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: can now
[23:48] <RedMushroom> ActionParsnip1: i can't use sudo anymore because when i did chmod -R 775 on /etc/ it changed the permission on the program. grr. so that means i have to boot from the live cd and change the chmod again, doesnt it?
[23:48] <PhxMan> "Could not open location gconf"
[23:49] <Roasted> The filters on these channels need to be changed. I cant tell you how many times I got banned in here for the most laughable reasons.
[23:49] <Roasted> ANYWAY..
[23:49] <Brad777> Hello I'm having a slight problem for some reason when I'm using the ondemand setting in the CPU scaling governor the processor just stays at 1GHz all the time even when i open up nexuiz in insane quality and then I get really low fps
[23:49] <Roasted> mrsteveman1 - Linksys WRT54G
[23:49] <ActionParsnip1> RedMushroom: oh boy, boot to recovery root console and change the chmod / chown appropriately
[23:49] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn  what did i do wrong
[23:49] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: stock firmware?
[23:49] <cchaos> Roasted: use pastbin then
[23:49] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: or dd-wrt/tomato?
[23:49] <Roasted> mrsteveman1 - Yes.
[23:49] <mrsteveman1> ok
[23:49] <jrib> Roasted: the only way to get automatically banned is if you ctcp the channel
[23:49] <Roasted> cchaos - I do not have any issues in other channels, only here with the nazi ruleset. Thanks though!
[23:49] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: don't enter, click on the application name. Or in menu: applications > system tools > configuration editor
[23:49] <Roasted> jrib - I've gotten banned many times, but I won't go into that.
[23:50] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: simple, if you are pasting more than 1 line, use pastebin
[23:50] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: there is a setting in there somewhere called domain name, or hostname
[23:50] <ActionParsnip1> Roasted: same router as me
[23:50] <RedMushroom> ActionParsnip1: lovely. *sigh* wonderful advice i got here today
[23:50] <Roasted> ActionParsnip1 - I understand, I didn't know it would log as multiple lines. It's still ridiculous I got muted when I didn't intentionally try that. But, whatever.
[23:50] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: it needs to be part of the dhcp information your router hands out, otherwise typing a single hostname without a .com or anything after it won't be searchable
[23:50] <mrwes> ActionParsnip1, same router here -- with Tomato of course :)
[23:50] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn   there is no configuration editor under system tools
[23:50] <cchaos> !pastbin | Roasted
[23:50] <cchaos> !pastebin | Roasted
[23:50] <ActionParsnip1> RedMushroom: if you start messing with /etc you gotta know what you are doing
[23:50] <Roasted> cchaos - I'm well aware of what pastebin is. But, AGAIN, thanks though!
[23:50] <RedMushroom> ActionParsnip1: i just discovered that
[23:51] <Roasted> mrsteveman1 - So you're saying when I ping I must have more tagged with it than the hostname itself? I.E. this computer is named "skynet"... it must be skynet + additional stuff?
[23:51] <spunk> RedMushroom: Boot a live CD and fix it from there.
[23:51] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: not as long as your router is handing out a domain name to all clients
[23:51] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn:  could it be under somewhere else?
[23:51] <mrsteveman1> roasted: it works the way  you want it to as long as the router tells your clients what domain they are a part of
[23:51] <mrwes> ActionParsnip1, nice to have puppylinux on a flash drive to fix system errors like messing with /etc :)
[23:52] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: open terminal and run: gconf-editor
[23:52] <cchaos> !help
[23:52] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: go to your routers config page, should be http://192.168.1.1
[23:52] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: there should be a domain name box
[23:52] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: you are under ubuntu and gnome right? or did I miss something
[23:53] <Roasted> mrsteveman1 - my domain name is related to comcast.
[23:53] <lepine> I'm running to intrepid systems but they seem different. I'm trying to configure a vpn with the networm-manager openvpn plugin ... and that's quite the same, but not quite
[23:53] <PhxMan> martin: no you're right  I just ran the editor
[23:53] <kerlo> I have a feeling Ubottu's "!root" entry is inspired by Buddhism or something.
[23:53] <lepine> the controls that allow you to select files (to CA.crt, client.crt, client.key etc ) ... don't allow me to select the same kind of files
[23:53] <cchaos> !root
[23:53] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: ok, now apps > gnome-screensaver
[23:53] <PhxMan> got it
[23:53] <cchaos> !ask
[23:54] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: if the cable company requires a domain name for their system to be in there it could be more complicated
[23:54] <PhxMan> martin:  can i just delete the key under themes???
[23:54] <lepine> what could explain these discrepancies?
[23:54] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: the stock linksys firmware might not even hand out a search domain to dhcp clients
[23:54] <mrsteveman1> Roasted
[23:54] <Roasted> mrsteveman1 - It must have been automatically generated. I did not put it in, and I was the one who set up this router. Comcast does not touch routers.
[23:54] <mrsteveman1> oops :)
[23:54] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: yes that was probably dhcp from upstream
[23:54] <vidor> Hiyas
[23:54] <vidor> !!!
[23:55]  * lepine just noticed that the logout menu now proposes IM status messages as well!
[23:55] <cchaos> !hi | vidor
[23:55] <Roasted> mrsteveman1 - Question. If I disable WINS on all of the computers in the house, would that basically disable the XP computers from pinging each other by hostname unless I had a DNS server?
[23:55] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: don't know if that solves it. The cycle-delay key is minutes to wait before starting screensaver, set that very high
[23:55] <nightrid3r> mrsteveman1: i think stock linksys firmware links dhcp and dns
[23:55] <nightrid3r> mrsteveman1: doesn't*
[23:55] <lepine> nightrid3r: eg, lease and address and serve the dhcp hostname as an A record? Yes.
[23:55] <mrsteveman1> hmmm
[23:55] <st0k33> how do you force quit in ubuntu?
[23:56] <vidor> how do I revert back to the Ubuntu gnome login screen instead of the kde login in screen
[23:56] <vidor> anybody know
[23:56] <Roasted> st0k33 - for programs?
[23:56] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: if you disable WINS then windows file sharing will probably stop working
[23:56] <st0k33> yeah, if my firefox is not responding
[23:56] <lepine> killall firefox
[23:56] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: but yes probably
[23:56] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: sorry, idle-delay that is
[23:56] <lepine> or xkill, then click
[23:56] <Roasted> st0k33 - I personally use xkill. Type xkill in termianl and click on the problematic application.
[23:56] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn:  I deleted the theme and it let me open the screensaver program
[23:56] <st0k33> lepine: thx
[23:56] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn: i was able to change the default screensaver - it workeD
[23:56] <PhxMan> !
[23:56] <PhxMan> martinkoelewijn:  thank you for your help
[23:56] <Roasted> mrsteveman1 - Okay. I'm just trying to figure out if the Ubuntu thing with pinging and DNS is a Linux PROBLEM or if its something that would exist in Windows without WINS too.
[23:57] <lepine> Roasted: problem? eg, uber long waits between sending pings?
[23:57] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: its not an ubuntu problem, i can say for certain that if your router passes the search domain to all dhcp clients, and if those clients are named in the router config, pinging by hostname would work
[23:57] <martinkoelewijn> PhxMan: idle_activation_enabled will toggle on / off screensaver. But if it works its ok
[23:57] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: i believe your router is not doing this though
[23:58] <vidor> Anyone have any ideas?
[23:58] <ttto> How can I send every keystroke to standard output, even when xterm is not focused?
[23:58] <ConvictedFelon> Hello everybody! I was wondering if there was a way to remove currently installed packages that a download script does not contain? anybody know?
[23:58] <lepine> vidor, about?
[23:58] <mrsteveman1> Roasted: there is probably a way to check, perhaps open the network configuration on your ubuntu desktop, it should list a domain alongside the ip information
[23:58] <Roasted> lepine - Long story short... I have 4 computers in front of me. Two Ubuntu desktops, Mac iBook laptop, and XP laptop. I cannot ping Ubuntu to Ubuntu via hostname, but I CAN ping via IP address. I've just been discussing with the others here as to why that is, and it seems the common consensus is I may have a DNS issue with my router, and the reason XP works is due to XP's usage of WINS.
[23:58] <fx3> mrsteveman1, will defining search <domain> in resolv.conf fix it?
[23:58] <lepine> Roasted: interesting ...
[23:58] <vidor> reverting back to the nice looking ubuntu gnome login in screen instead of the kde launch/login screen?
[23:58] <mrsteveman1> fx3: i'm not sure if thats a valid config option for resolv.conf but if it is, yes
[23:59] <lepine> Roasted: look into your dhcp.conf ... see if you're sending a hostname
[23:59] <fx3> mrsteveman1, lol, of course it is, its a local override for what youve been talking about
[23:59] <Roasted> lepine - etc/dhcp.conf? In ubuntu?
[23:59] <lepine> if you arent ... your router won't be serving a dns record for it
[23:59] <lepine> Roasted: i think
[23:59] <mrsteveman1> fx3: ok then, try that :)
[23:59] <lepine> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[23:59] <fx3> Roasted, add a search domain in /etc/resolv.conf and see if it works
[23:59] <mkasson> how do I get Java? is it not in base install?