[00:01] <minazo> mrpresident: if somone wants more than two "virtual desktops" on their pager, first add your Pager, then go to Applications -> Settings Manager -> Workspaces and Margins, then add how many "Number of workspaces" you want. Cool! I am all set up. Thanks again for letting know about the Settings Manager as on the Live CD it looked different and I would of simply overlooked it...cheers as well! :)
[00:13] <mrpresident> minazo, yeah Im running Juanty so I think it might be a bug Ill have to check as it changes the workspace but doesn't applay it
[00:28] <minazo> mrpresident: Oh, Juanty is the latest, isn't it? That is the 9.04 version? Hmm, now that *might* "break" my video card as I couldn't run "lenny" on this computer, as it no longer supported my "ati video card drivers". Also, I've got like updates that I need to install but I wonder if that will "break" the video card? I might go over to debian or ubuntu and ask if updates (not a distro upgrade) break this ATI video card. It's running so smooth now I h
[00:59] <Kangarooo> i cannot get my video card working i installed from synaptic ati and radeon drivers.. so i suppose xubuntu / ubuntu doesnt automatically understands what video card i have and doesnt instals it?        lspci -v     gives     VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP
[01:00] <Kangarooo> ups i wanted to say ati and rage drivers- i searched them and didnt work even after restart
[01:02] <bonzo1993> hi @ all
[01:03] <bonzo1993> i've got problems with the screenresolution
[01:03] <bonzo1993> th maximum is 800x600
[01:03] <bonzo1993> how can i change this?
[01:03] <Kangarooo> old computetr? laptop?
[01:03] <bonzo1993> yes
[01:04] <bonzo1993> sry for my bad english i'm from germany
[01:04] <bonzo1993> wait a minute i'll post the graficcard data
[01:04] <Kangarooo> i had also with my old laptop Yakumo it had SiS integrated or somekind like that
[01:05] <bonzo1993> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 11)
[01:06] <bonzo1993> thats the nVidia graficcard
[01:06] <bonzo1993> so what can i do to change this?
[01:06] <Kangarooo> with latest versions i had no problems- hmm but maybe i havent installed with latest :D well previuslly  i found that there is some SiS driver package in synaptic and it worked but one monthe before i did it manually and that is not acceptable to manually do it
[01:07] <bonzo1993> and it works with nVidia graficcards?
[01:07] <Kangarooo> noooooo i told wat was my problem :)
[01:07] <minazo> bonzo1993: you mean under your Settings Manager you only have an 800 x 600 option?
[01:07] <Kangarooo> you need to find some of name of your grafic card in synaptic
[01:08] <knome> !resolution
[01:08] <Kangarooo> or search google
[01:08] <Kangarooo> !google ubuntu 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 11)
[01:08] <Kangarooo> !google VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 11) ubuntu
[01:08] <Kangarooo> how that bot works?
[01:09] <knome> Kangarooo, there is no google search in the bot
[01:09] <minazo> Kangarooo: I had a similiar problem, what version of Xubuntu are you running? I have a  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS video card running on 8.10
[01:10] <Kangarooo> i have 9.04
[01:10] <Kangarooo> installed 4h ago and thinking about killing myself or machine
[01:11] <minazo> We have the same video card, I think? 8.10 will work, have you tried that? Or do you need 9.04.
[01:11] <knome> minazo, what was your solution on 8.10 ?
[01:12] <Kangarooo> everytrhing is really slow right? like no video card .. and i cpuld install only with safe graphics mode
[01:12] <minazo> Kangarooo: ...i guess I shouldn't of even asked, obviously you wanted to upgrade.
[01:12] <Kangarooo> i have 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP
[01:13] <Kangarooo> no i want xubuntu 9.04 as latest OS for oldest PC :)
[01:14] <minazo> knome: 8.10 installed with no problems. I just installed it on my machine early today....working fine...I tried Debain Lenny and it wouldn't detect my video card so I am trying to find out if the updates might break something..I am *can't* do a distro upgrade at this time b/c it would break everything...8.10 work fine with that card though...
[01:15] <knome> right.
[01:15] <minazo> Kangarooo: I understand. I want to as well...if I found out something I will definitely tell this channel. ;)
[01:18] <Kangarooo> ill try ubuntu latest dailly couse in #ubuntu they told me that with ubuntu it will work and also downloading xubuntu dailly latest to try maybe tomorow again. but its also strange that with this video card xubuntu didnt wantet even work in live normally- very laggy and allso very strange that when i choose to install normal way it loaded live and gave crash report that ubiquity got some error. so in install cd with graphics safe mode installed.
[01:20] <knome> Kangarooo, btw, there is also #ubuntu-de
[01:21] <Kangarooo> de? for dennmark or deutcsh?
[01:21] <knome> deutsch
[01:21] <Kangarooo> im latvian but in #ubuntu-lv no one is active exept me :)
[01:21] <knome> right
[01:22] <knome> who was it who was german?
[01:22] <knome> ah, it was that bonzo
[01:29] <minazo> knome, Kangarooo, Oh...so you guys know what's "up" more than I do about this. I am newbie :) Do either of you know if I install the 200+ updates that are waiting for me on my Xubuntu 8.10....will that break this ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 video card?
[01:30] <knome> minazo, absolutely no idea.
[01:31] <minazo> hehe
[01:36] <knome> minazo, it is bad if jaunty breaks your card
[01:36] <knome> or stops it from working
[01:36] <knome> minazo, did you already file a bug?
[01:36] <Kangarooo> i dont know but if u already have xubuntu then there are 2 ways to get to next version one is config file change previus name to new i think jaunty its called ? and another and ubuntu website wrote so the best way is terminal write update-manager -d
[01:37] <minazo> good answer...i assume it's something to do with the kernel but *heck* if I know...i am not going into the ##kernel channel and try and found out...they'll either ban me or laugh me out of there...
[01:37] <minazo> no how do i that? i'll do it
[01:37] <Kangarooo> ou and new version really is faster starting...
[01:39] <minazo> knome: nevermind, i can find out how, or see if it's already "been done"...
[01:47] <knome> :)
[02:05] <histo> alright using irssi through screen in xfce4-terminal for somereason everyonce in a while I cant' switch to window two with alt+2 all the other shortcuts work alt+3 etc...
[02:42] <histo> no one?
[02:42] <histo> its doing it again
[02:43] <histo> if I close the terminal and reconnect its fixed. So i know its a bug in xfce4-terminal
[03:52] <Orbital85> Hola
[03:52] <Orbital85> Alguien habla espanol?
[04:14] <Orbital85> how to open a window from terminal?
[04:22] <Kangarooo> what windows? xp?
[04:23] <Kangarooo> Orbital85: if u write firefox then firefox window will open if you run in terminal sudo thunnar then thunnar with root privilegies will open
[04:24] <Orbital85> thunnar
[04:24] <Orbital85> ok thanks
[04:25] <Orbital85> it is thunar
[04:34] <genii> gksudo and not sudo. Or regular user will not be able to run it after
[04:48] <rocko> what is the equivalent of free disk space checker for xfce panel to gnome panel?
[04:48] <Orbital85> df -h
[04:48] <Orbital85> xD
[04:49] <rocko> I want it in the panel
[04:49] <rocko> gnome panel
[04:49] <Orbital85> you use ubuntu?
[05:03] <minazo> is there an option so that i can get the terminal to beep? i've tried Edit -> Preferences but I do not see an option to turn it off or on. using xterm.
[05:09] <genii> xset b off
[05:09] <genii> or on
[05:11] <genii> Might be 0 or 1 instead of on/off, been a while since I needed to use it
[05:19] <minazo> genii: wow, are you serious. that is different..."neat" not what i'm not *use* to...let me try it. i use it for certain channels in irssi and sometimes in a script...
[05:23] <genii> There is also a setting like    set bell-style           you can use in a file like ~/.inputrc    I remember style of visible flashes the screen
[05:23] <minazo> do i need to be root?
[05:24] <minazo> neither is working right now but i am sure it's something *i* am wrong
[05:24] <minazo> *i* am doing wrong, i meat.
[05:25] <genii> Don't need to be root to edit files in ~/         (your home dir)
[05:25] <minazo> meant...geez....hehe...
[05:25] <minazo> oh yeah, i'l look at ~/.inputrc didn't notice you said that..
[05:26] <genii> If you change the .inputrc   use:   source .inputrc
[05:26] <genii> (to make it take effect)
[05:26] <minazo> issue source .inputrc after file change, right?
[05:26] <minazo> issue 'source .inputrc' after file change, right?
[05:26] <genii> If in ~/ already, otherwise use full path or so
[05:27] <minazo> k
[05:28] <genii> Conceivably if that is set right and still no beep, you may not have pcspkr module loaded
[05:48] <frenzy421> i upgraded to the beta a few weeks ago and it seems that i no longer have a program that keeps track of my wireless keys, it's quite annoying
[05:49] <frenzy421> anyone knows?
[05:49] <minazo> What/where is this? ${XDG_CONFIG_HOME} Supposedly, I can ${XDG_CONFIG_HOME}/Terminal/terminalrc (create one is not there) and populate it with the options I need. I know how to use Google so I can look this up but though I'd ask first.
[05:51] <minazo> it's the same thing as $HOME, right? or /home/user/Terminal/terminalrc
[05:54] <frenzy421> i think the room is dead
[05:54] <frenzy421> and i don't know the answer sorry
[05:56] <minazo> np
[05:57] <minazo> frenzy421: echo -ne "\a" will test if you have a beep and it doesn't work so i'll try something other things...thanks for the reply though. cheers..
[06:01] <frenzy421> what?
[06:08] <minazo> frenzy421: sorry man, I am sounding like an idiot. I am just trying to get the terminal to beep....btw, the way I just heard it but I don't think it's "system-wide"...lol...
[07:35] <minazo> Anyone in here ever try to get their terminal to beep? Everyone seems to want to cut it off. I would like to cut it on. This is in the docs at: /usr/share/doc/xfce4-terminal/html/C/advanced.html Seems like that would work but I am not hearing anything. http://pastie.org/443556
[09:54] <_Pete_> !vnc
[12:21] <mib_6d7y2lyr> I recently rebooted my xUbuntu laptop after installing updates, and everything in the wireless connection thing is gone, only auto-eth remains, how can I revert the updates or something to fix it?
[12:24] <Kangarooo> yes i want to know alswo how to revert to previus syustem like 5min before last update ?
[13:56] <demmon> 366mhz pentium II and 256 run will it run or walk :)
[14:04] <Ragamufin> demmon, try the live cd
[14:09] <xy|ox> demmon, it should be ok
[14:36] <djiin> Hi.
[14:36] <TheSheep> hello
[14:37] <djiin> I'm trying to add 640x480 resolution to my xrandr with: $ xrandr --newmode xrandr --newmode "640x480_75.00"   30.75  640 664 728 816  480 483 487 504 -hsync +vsync ; and then when I do: $ xrandr --addmode default 640x480 it says that it cannot find mode. How can I add this resolution properly?
[15:16] <Slonkie> hmm.. k3b and brasero is build on the same source right?
[15:41] <TheSheep> no
[15:41] <TheSheep> they might use some of the same libraries
[15:41] <TheSheep> but they are separate projects
[15:51] <tuxcrafter> when is the dvevel meeting today?
[15:53] <SiDi>  in #ubuntu-meeting
[15:57] <tuxcrafter> SiDi: time :-)
[16:08] <cerrdor_> OK
[17:27] <sping> hi. where can i file xubuntu bug reports?
[17:28] <charlie-tca> !bugs
[17:28] <charlie-tca> Thanks for asking
[17:28] <sping> charlie-tca: thanks for replying ;-)
[17:28] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[17:35] <sping> the boot animation showing the progress bar - is that package *-usplash?
[17:36] <charlie-tca> yes
[18:02] <Ruadh> hi
[18:05] <charlie-tca> !hi | Ruadh
[18:07] <charlie-tca> chewit: bug 293105 still valid?
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Graphic bug in Xfce System Tray, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/293105
[18:08] <chewit> i don't know anymore
[18:08] <chewit> i'm running 904 now
[18:09] <charlie-tca> Is it in 9.04?
[18:09] <charlie-tca> If it is not in 9.04, I can sign it off as invalid/fixed in jaunty
[18:11] <Ruadh> Thanks guys
[18:18] <chewit> well, i have not tested the bug in 904
[18:18] <chewit> so i could not say
[18:32] <charlie-tca> xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now
[18:33] <Slonkie> hmm is everyone allowed in for a listen?
[18:34] <charlie-tca> yes, and participate if desired
[18:35] <Slonkie> Cool
[19:19] <minazo> Anyone ever tried to turn on their terminal beep? I realize most want it off. But I like on. xfce has it off by default from what I understand. /usr/share/doc/xfce4-terminal/html/C/advanced.html. I created an .inputrc file, but i am not sure what command will turn on the beep, I've tried a couple of different commands and logged out with no results:'xset b on' or 'set bell-style on'
[19:20] <charlie-tca> You may have to set it on in /etc/inputrc also
[19:24] <minazo> charlie-tca: hmm, let me try. I'll probably need to log out everytime as well, you think? # set bell-style none
[19:24] <minazo> is commented out, should i say set bell-style on?
[19:24] <charlie-tca> Yes, logout and login will be needed
[19:24] <charlie-tca> Remove the # in front
[19:25] <charlie-tca> set to audio, I think
[19:25] <charlie-tca> Visual flashes the screen
[19:25] <minazo> Or say 'set bell-style 1'.....hmmm, audio....didn't think about that.
[19:26] <charlie-tca> might have to look in man inputrc
[19:26] <minazo> k
[19:26] <minazo> No manual entry for inputrc
[19:26] <charlie-tca> let me look
[19:27] <minazo> i'll try some things first though....thanks.
[19:27] <minazo> k
[19:28] <charlie-tca> set bell-style audible
[19:29] <charlie-tca> see /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples/startup-files for examples
[19:30] <charlie-tca> you may not have the examples installed, though
[19:38] <minazo> charlie-tca: Ok, let me look at that first. set bell-style audible makes the most sense to me. I've got a website to do so I guess i should spend too much time on getting a to terminal beep. :) thanks again.
[19:47] <flucksbawks> sup all
[19:47] <Slonkie> hello
[19:49] <flucksbawks> !coffee
[19:49] <flucksbawks> !espresso
[19:49] <flucksbawks> !!!
[19:49] <slow-motion> hi
[19:49] <flucksbawks> hey slow
[19:52] <slow-motion> hi flucksbawks
[19:53] <minazo> charlie-tca: no luck, i'll have to try another time when the time...maybe later on this evening...it's probably something really simple i am not doing. I altered inputrc file to audible.It seems like ' ~/.inputrc' should of done it as well...anyways, thanks again.
[19:54] <charlie-tca> Agreed with that. I don't know what else is missing.
[19:54] <charlie-tca> that is what I used to have to change to get the bell to go away
[19:57] <minazo> charlie-tca: hehe, I know *no one* wants the bell on...one last thing, did you have to issue 'source inputrc' afterwards you changed the file? That's been mentioned before but I am not sure what that actually does.
[19:57] <TheSheep> bells is ok if you fine-tune it
[19:57] <charlie-tca> I restarted to make it take effect
[19:57] <TheSheep> xset b 0
[19:58] <minazo>  xset b 1 turns on right?
[19:58] <TheSheep> no
[19:58] <TheSheep> man xset  for details
[20:01] <charlie-tca> Good luck, minazo. I gotta go now.
[20:04] <minazo> 'xset b 100 2000 20' or any other of the parameters i give does not work. i issue echo -ne "\a" or use Backspace but still no beep.
[20:04] <minazo> charlie-tca: k, take it easy.
[20:20] <minazo> TheSheep: Strange thing is that I can hear the system beep if I go to Firefox and use the ctrl+F and do a search for a word that's not in the page? I'll hear the system beep then. Also, I'm able to set it by 'xset b' which will gives me the default beep but if I issue 'xset b 100 50 10' it changes the beep to a deeper pitch when I do the serach *in Firefox*, but no beep for the terminal....it's *beeping* frustrating :)
[20:21] <Slonkie> hmm Remote Desktop Viewer frooze.. does anyone know the process name?
[20:21] <Slonkie> wanna see if i can use "killall <processname>"
[20:25] <TheSheep> minazo: maybe you have it disabled in terminal?
[20:25] <TheSheep> minazo: try editing .config/Terminal/terminalrc
[20:25] <TheSheep> Slonkie: system->system monitor
[20:26] <Slonkie> Thanks, never saw this before lol
[20:26] <TheSheep> or ps x, if you prefer commandline
[21:19] <owen1> i have 8.04. shouldn't I have the option to upgrade to 8.10?
[21:19] <owen1> (i don't see the 'upgrade' option)
[21:22] <Myrtti> owen1: by default, lts releases check only for newer lts releases
[21:23] <Myrtti> the next one will most likely be released next year this time-ish
[21:24] <owen1> Myrtti: so 8.10 is not lts yet?
[21:24] <Myrtti> no
[21:24] <minazo> TheSheep: where is this terminalrc file? where would .config/Terminal be located? I tried a 'whereis' and 'which' but don't see anything. The only .config file I am getting is under: '/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic/.config'
[21:25] <minazo> or, I guess I mean, whereis the '.config/Terminal/terminalrc' at?
[21:25] <Myrtti> minazo: in your home dir
[21:25] <owen1> Myrtti: interesting. is it the same with ubnutu? i have 8.10 on my ubuntu.
[21:25] <Myrtti> owen1: yes
[21:26] <owen1> Myrtti: can i upgrade to 8.10 now? is there a risk?
[21:26] <Myrtti> owen1: you can change the behaviour though
[21:26] <TheSheep> minazo: ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc
[21:26] <Myrtti> owen1: sure
[21:26] <Myrtti> !upgrade
[21:27] <Myrtti> owen1: ^
[21:28] <owen1> Myrtti: thanks
[21:40] <SiDi> owen1, go to the "sources of software" application, tab "Upgrades", and change "Only upgrade from LTS to LTS" to "Normal versions" at the bottom of the window
[21:40] <SiDi> then you'll be offered to upgrade to 8.10
[21:41] <owen1> SiDi: yes. works. is there a way to do it without UI? (i use dwm on my other ubuntu)
[21:42] <SiDi> owen1, yeh, but i don't know the way
[21:42] <SiDi> you should man apt-get / aptitude / dpkg
[21:44] <owen1> SiDi: will do. i have a xubuntu 7.10 cd. is there a way to 'jump' from 7.10 to 8.10 ?
[21:45] <SiDi> owen1, its higly unrecommanded
[21:45] <owen1> SiDi: this was seperate question..
[21:45] <SiDi> go for 8.04 first, then 8.10
[21:45] <SiDi> cause there are some migration scripts that need to be run between upgrades
[21:45] <SiDi> and dont forget to do all the updates / reboot / updates before you upgrade to the next version
[21:46] <SiDi> (it does take less time to reinstall if there are several upgrades)
[21:46] <owen1> SiDi: got it. so it's better to burn a xubuntu CD once in a while, and stop using 7.10 as my base distro..
[21:47] <SiDi> well, since we're about to go for 9.04, you should check how the beta works in a separate partition ;)
[21:48] <SiDi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/TestingInfo/Short and do this at the same time ;p
[22:05] <deadlyallance628> what is a good channel for networking help ?
[22:06] <Slonkie> Regarding Xubuntu? this one :)
[22:06] <deadlyallance628> its not regaurding any os
[22:07] <deadlyallance628> iam just trying to get a little networking help
[22:07] <Slonkie> oh, no idea then
[22:08] <deadlyallance628> ok how about this i run a moto q9m as a usb modem with wvdial how can i route all the data to my eth0
[22:08] <deadlyallance628> in xubuntu 8.20
[22:09] <deadlyallance628> 8.10
[22:10] <owen1> SiDi: Prompt=normal in  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  will do the same.
[22:10] <SiDi> if noone knows here, try #ubuntu, most of the stuff is common
[22:10] <SiDi> owen1, thanks for the tip ;)
[22:10]  * SiDi brbs
[22:12] <zade> looking for help with right click, when i right click on links sometimes i get standard menu sometimes it seems to automatically pick an option
[22:13] <TheSheep> zade: what application?
[22:13] <zade> in a web browser/firefox
[22:13] <TheSheep> zade: you got any addons or extensions installed?
[22:13] <zade> no
[22:14] <TheSheep> does it also happen in other applications?
[22:14] <zade> no it does not seem to
[22:15] <zade> this is so odd to me i don't even know how to search for it in the forums
[22:15] <TheSheep> does it always select the same option?
[22:16] <zade> no at times it would appear it would do what I have done most recently but that is not 100%
[22:16] <TheSheep> so it selects random options?
[22:16] <zade> for example if i right click to open in new tab sometimes it will do this automatically with out having to actually choose from menu
[22:17] <zade> but sometimes it just opens in new window
[22:17] <TheSheep> that happens with the middle click
[22:17] <zade> \or will try to "save as"
[22:17] <TheSheep> or a click of both buttons
[22:18] <zade> i can not repeat it on demand
[22:18] <TheSheep> I'd suspect some setting or addon in firefox
[22:18] <zade> and i am mostly positive i am only clicking the right button
[22:19] <SiDi> Does it happen only on SOME sites ?
[22:19] <TheSheep> maybe try to rename the .mozilla directory, that will reset firefox's settings to factory defaults
[22:20] <SiDi> zade, possibly your mouse is phisically doing "double click"
[22:20] <SiDi> i had this on 2/3 mice before, eventhough usually left click bugs first
[22:20] <zade> it does not happen all the time and sometimes fine for several pages
[22:26] <zade> ?so you think my actual button is going bad
[22:28] <slow-motion> bye
[22:29] <zade> is it possible i did this in editing my X11/xorg.conf
[22:32] <zade> TheSheep: if i rename .mozilla what would i rename it to ? anything ? just rename then reboot ?
[22:34] <zade> sidi: as for possible double click, if i double right click it does nothing
[22:35] <SiDi> zade, ok, nevermind then :) just good to explore all the possibilities
[22:36] <SiDi> because if you right click a menu entry in firefox, it behaves as if it was a left click
[22:37] <zade> sidi: yes if i rt click and actually get the menu then either right or left click yields same results
[22:48] <Slonkie> !nfs
[22:59] <zade> i believe i have found a solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/187313
[23:05] <zade> I have applied the recommended solution we will see how it works . . . thanks for all the help
[23:05] <SiDi> you're welcome xD
[23:16] <R1cochet> can any1 reccomend a program to dial pc to phone (land/mobile)?
[23:23] <SiDi> Ekiga
[23:23] <SiDi> Oh, you mean to connect to internet via the phone ?
[23:24] <R1cochet> nope
[23:25] <R1cochet> want to call a landline and or mobile phone from my pc
[23:25] <SiDi> Ok, Ekiga then :)
[23:25] <R1cochet> can it call mobiles for free?
[23:25] <SiDi> Via the SIP protocol, you can call mobiles
[23:25] <SiDi> you need a provider for phone calls
[23:25] <R1cochet> so ill have to pay then?
[23:25] <SiDi> most of ISPs offer free and unlimited phone calls via SIP now, you should check if your does
[23:26] <R1cochet> well im setup on an ad-hoc through roommates aircard
[23:27] <SiDi> oh :P
[23:27] <SiDi> well, ask them to check their ISP, we never know ;)
[23:28] <R1cochet> Laughing Out Loud
[23:28] <R1cochet> thank you
[23:28] <SiDi> here is a list of commercial providers, otherwise : http://backsla.sh/betamax
[23:28] <R1cochet> but ekiga is good i take it?
[23:29] <SiDi> yeh
[23:29] <minazo> TheSheep: thank you for the tip on using '/.config/Terminal/terminalrc' It worked. Now I can have all the beeping beeps I want. Thanks for your help!
[23:29] <SiDi> its like skype, except that its opensource, really crossplatform, uses a protocol compatible with a lot of other apps
[23:29] <SiDi> and doesnt include spywares
[23:30] <SiDi> and i recommand you make your friends use ekiga too, esp. those using skype/vent/teamspeak, as ekiga is opensource.
[23:30] <R1cochet> ok cool thank you
[23:30] <R1cochet> looks like 12voip.com is free for US calls thanks for the link
[23:32] <SiDi> you're welcome
[23:32] <SiDi> be careful though, double and triple check before calling ;)
[23:32] <SiDi> and btw, if you have parents who have an actual ISP
[23:32] <SiDi> check if their ISP offers SIP calls and if they can let you use their account ;)
[23:33] <R1cochet> ahh shit good idea man
[23:33] <R1cochet> oh*
[23:33] <SiDi> that's how i get the internet here ;) i use my mother's ISP account to connect to foneros ;D
[23:33] <R1cochet> check for what b4 calling?
[23:34] <SiDi> check their terms of use
[23:34] <R1cochet> ok thank you
[23:36] <xubuntugraphicsh> Is anyone available who could help troubleshoot a graphics problem with Xubuntu?
[23:36] <SiDi> well, feel free to ask
[23:37] <SiDi> if anyone knows, we'll help for sure
[23:38] <xubuntugraphicsh> I just installed Xubuntu on an older Dell PC with Intel 82845G graphics controller.  Will load then go to blank screen.  If I go back and reload with "autofix graphics" option it will load fine with 1024x768.  Then next time it is the same problem.
[23:39] <xubuntugraphicsh> I tried changing the xorg.conf file as suggested on a support board I found but that didn't help.
[23:40] <SiDi> Well, i really can't help with intel cards, sorry :/ i have none of these
[23:41] <xubuntugraphicsh> OK thanks for listening.  Bye
[23:48] <Brad777> Hello I'm having a slight problem for some reason when I'm using the ondemand setting in the CPU scaling governor the processor just stays at 1GHz all the time even when i open up nexuiz in insane quality and then I get really low fps
[23:48] <Brad777> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[23:51] <SiDi> hm, maybe you get a bad fps mostly due to your gpu
[23:51] <SiDi> ondemand works pretty much fine here
[23:51] <Brad777> SiDi, i have a 9800GTX+ superclocked edition... and I never had bad fps on Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[23:51] <SiDi> Ok, it doesnt work well then ;)
[23:52] <Brad777> SiDi, lol no idea how to fix?
[23:52] <SiDi> Nope, since it works here
[23:52] <SiDi> !google cpu governor xubuntu ondemand
[23:52] <SiDi> Damn bot
[23:55] <SiDi> and obviously googling didnt help. let me check bug trackers
[23:56] <SiDi> there are no bugs registered on launchpad
[23:56] <SiDi> i suggest you report one
[23:59] <Brad777> SiDi, i'm not even sure what the bug is lol