[00:00] <tsimpson> ah, yeah
[00:00] <tsimpson> I meant libgl1-mesa
[00:00] <Zirg> tsimpson, what would happen if i burned the .ISO and tried to upgrade, via that? I mean, I don't want to tie you up, for all this time.
[00:00] <tsimpson> Zirg: you can't upgrade from booting, only install
[00:01] <Zirg> crap. looks like i'm gonna end up rsync'ing ~/ and reinstalling.
[00:02] <tsimpson> Zirg: may be quicker
[00:02] <ActionParsnip1> Zirg: is home on a seperate partition?
[00:02] <Zirg> ActionParsnip1, oh hades, no.
[00:02] <ActionParsnip1> Zirg: bah, that'd make life way easier
[00:03] <Zirg> ActionParsnip1, if it was, i wouldn't give an aerial intercourse.
[00:03] <ActionParsnip1> indeed
[00:03] <Zirg> well, i guess i may as well unplug this thing and take it to the shop. (heavy sigh)
[00:03] <tsimpson> the only way to work through issues like that is to try installing each non-installable package one-by-one until you either, get the real reason why it's failing, or fix it
[00:03] <ActionParsnip1> Zirg: i'd suggest you implement it in the clean install
[00:04] <Zirg> ActionParsnip1, yup. and i'm gonna use 8.04 KDE 3.x vice 8.10 KDE 4.(breakage)
[00:04] <Zirg> tsimpson, Thank You Very MUCH for the assist and thoughts!
[00:04] <Zirg> It IS appreciated.
[00:05] <draik_> Rule 1 (to updating/upgrading from repos): Be sure you're online before you think that your new Kubuntu install is "stupid".
[00:06] <draik_> With that said, Hello all. Hope your day is going well.
[00:07] <ralema56> anyone else having problems with chatting on pidigin. seems no one can receive my messages  i send :(
[00:07] <ActionParsnip1> ralema56: works fine here
[00:07] <mprice> I'm running Jaunty and don't have any problems
[00:08] <ActionParsnip1> ralema56: try renaming ~/.purple and rerunning the app, you will need to readd your accounts but this will allow you to test. You can rename back after the test
[00:15] <tjb> Hey, what command do I need to get my Broadcom wireless and nVidia GeForce GO 6150 drivers installed?
[00:15] <tjb> I'm using Kubuntu 8.04
[00:16] <tjb> ???
[00:19] <draik_> ralema56: What IM service? I tend to that issues with the MSN/Hotmail messenger for some odd reason. Yahoo will disconnect from time to time, but will reconnect itself.
[00:19] <tjb> Hey, what command do I need to get my Broadcom wireless and nVidia GeForce GO 6150 drivers installed on Kubuntu 8.04?
[00:19] <draik_> *tend to HAVE that issue...
[00:19] <ActionParsnip1> tjb: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:20] <ActionParsnip1> tjb: then restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace and then you'll be ok
[00:20] <ActionParsnip1> tjb: the broadcom chip will need identifying with lspci
[00:22] <draik_> !schedule
[00:22] <draik_> !botsnack
[00:24] <tjb> ActionParsnip: Couldn't find package! :(
[00:24] <draik_> !release
[00:24] <Fanfare> Hi @ all
[00:25] <tsimpson> tjb: start from KMenu -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[00:25] <mprice> !hello | Fanfare
[00:31] <tjb> tsimpson: it says nvidia_new not in use but with a x in the middle
[00:32] <draik_> !user
[00:32] <draik_> I messed up my /etc/sudoers file. Is there a way to undo the damage?
[00:33] <tsimpson> tjb: I guess you should try activating it
[00:34] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: i can send you mine
[00:34] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: you can then boot to recovery root console and overwrite the bad file
[00:34] <tsimpson> draik_: there is an example in /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sudoers
[00:35] <tsimpson> just add the line "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" at the end of that
[00:35] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: I can't 'sudo" so I'm screwed with any changes
[00:35] <draik_> I'll try recovery mode
[00:35] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: http://pastebin.com/f503492a7
[00:35] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: if you boot to recovery root console you will be root, so wont need to sudo
[00:35] <draik_> tsimpson: I entered an incorrect syntax.
[00:36] <tsimpson> draik_: that's why you should use sudoedit
[00:36] <draik_> tsimpson: I've never heard of sudoedit.
[00:36] <draik_> !sudoedit
[00:36] <tsimpson> or is it visudo
[00:36] <draik_> Sweet
[00:36] <tsimpson> !visudo
[00:37] <draik_> Thanks tsimpson. I'll keep that in mind.
[00:37] <tsimpson> no, it's visudo
[00:37] <tsimpson> visudo - edit the sudoers file
[00:38] <tsimpson> if you use that, it'll tell you that it's bad syntax and refuse to save
[00:50] <Xeron> !imagebin
[00:55] <kalel> ragazzi ki mi aiuta a ripristinare la barra di kubuntu?
[00:56] <Fanfare> kalel: ???
[00:57] <Fanfare> kalel: en pls
[00:57] <KDesk> it@kalel
[00:57] <tsimpson> Fanfare: ???, English please ;)
[00:57] <KDesk> hmm..
[00:57] <tsimpson> !it | kalel
[00:57] <Fanfare> :-)
[00:58] <KDesk> ah, that was, I have to remember that
[00:58] <tsimpson> !bot
[00:58] <kalel> fanfare
[00:58] <tsimpson> usage guide ^
[00:58] <kalel> i'm italian
[00:58] <kalel> but i have a problem
[00:59] <kalel> sorry for my english
[00:59] <kalel> do you help me?
[00:59] <Fanfare> kalel: i'm german so dont worry
[00:59] <Fanfare> kalel: we'll try...
[00:59] <draik_> kalel: Don't worry about the language. We'll ask you to clarify if we can't understand. What's the issue?
[01:00] <tsimpson> kalel: if you want help in italian, write /join #ubuntu-it
[01:01] <kalel> in #ubuntu-it they isn't help me
[01:01] <kalel> my issue is
[01:01] <Fanfare> kalel: so ask here in english
[01:02] <kalel> ok
[01:02] <kalel> reset menu bar
[01:02] <kalel> plasmoidi
[01:03] <kalel> i want reset the original menu bar
[01:03] <kalel> i loss it
[01:04] <draik_> Do you mean the bar at the bottom of the Kubuntu dashboard?
[01:04] <KDesk> kalel: with the plasmoids, clock, etc.?
[01:05] <draik_> K Menu, Home folder, system tray, clock, trash, etc?
[01:05] <kalel> yes kdesk
[01:05] <kalel> i see 13 updates bottom left
[01:05] <Husaini> many bugs for jaunty beta version
[01:05] <Husaini> oh god
[01:05] <kalel> but i don't see bar
[01:06] <KDesk> kelel, hmm, that is bad to not have a option to at the default panel.
[01:06] <KDesk> kalel you have to add ~6 different plasmoids
[01:07] <kalel> i try to send you my desktop
[01:07] <KDesk> kalel do you know who to add a panel or plasmoids?
[01:07] <kalel> i don't know :(
[01:08] <kalel> i want reset bar
[01:08] <kalel> the bar like windows bar for example
[01:08] <KDesk> kalel ok :) right click any where in the desktop in one empty place
[01:08] <KDesk> and select in the menu Add panel.
[01:09] <KDesk> Kalel, you have to add first a panel to add widgets there, or add the widgets in the desktop/dashboard
[01:10] <KDesk> kalel: I dont know how to reset the bar to the defaults. But It is not difficult to add a new one.
[01:10] <kalel> ok i try
[01:10] <KDesk> right click any where in the desktop in one empty area
[01:10] <kalel> ok, i think that my bar is invisible of my screen
[01:12] <kalel> i add a panel
[01:12] <kalel> panel is alt
[01:12] <ubuntu> m
[01:13] <kalel> i want panel in bottom
[01:13] <KDesk> kalel what do you mean with panel is alt?
[01:13] <KDesk> at the top of the screen?
[01:14] <Leemp> Question: I just installed Kubuntu, and realized i need to make a change to my partitions. Now, for the life of me i cannot find the KDE version of "GParted". Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:14] <kalel> yes at the top
[01:14] <KDesk> leemp you can install gparted without problems
[01:14] <Fanfare> Leemp: qtparted
[01:15] <kalel> Kdesk at the top of thee screen
[01:15] <Leemp> Fanfare: Well thats what i thought, but _where_ is it? I found it from searching, but i cannot locate it on the kubuntu livecd
[01:15] <KDesk> leemp but if you want to change something in a root partition, it has to be unmounted
[01:15] <Fanfare> Leemp: on live CD usee gparted
[01:15] <KDesk> kalel: ok, do you see the yellow thing at the right of the panel?
[01:16] <Leemp> Fanfare: Ok.. _where_ is that?
[01:16] <kalel> yes
[01:16] <Leemp> Fanfare: I've been scanning the kde menus, and i see nothing of help heh
[01:16] <kalel> kdesk yes
[01:16] <Fanfare> Leemp: did u try in konsole?
[01:16] <KDesk> Leemp: you can also download a live cd of system rescue, because qtparted is very old and has manu known bugs. But I remember there is also a new one.
[01:17] <Leemp> KDesk: So KDE doesn't have its own? That surprises me
[01:17] <kalel> kdesk now my bar is bottom
[01:17] <KDesk> kalel:  click it and then click (but dont release) on the button that says Screen edge
[01:18] <Leemp> Fanfare: Well no, but thats sort of not the point :o. I'm trying KDE because of the environment, not the console. I like consoles just as much as the next guy, but my decision for KDE over Gnome is not based on using the console. :)
[01:18] <KDesk> kalel: ah, ok :) now add the widgets/plasmoids that you want
[01:18] <Leemp> Fanfare: So, with your answer, i'm going to assume the Kubuntu livecd has no partition tools?
[01:18] <kalel> what plasmoids?
[01:19] <KDesk> Leemp: the livecd has the installer with the partition manager, but you can also install gparted.
[01:19] <KDesk> kalal for the K menu the Application lanucher
[01:20] <Fanfare> Anyway u cant repartition a running system partition...
[01:20] <KDesk> Leemp: there is one program named partitionmanager for kde
[01:20] <kalel> kdesk i notice in  top left, if i clik i see windows open
[01:20] <Leemp> And while im here, any one got any words of warning for setting up dual monitors on KDE? Any "DONT USE X PROGRAM" warnings?
[01:20] <KDesk> Leemp: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Partition+Manager?content=89595
[01:21] <KDesk> kalel that is I think a effect/plugin of kwin, the kde windows manager
[01:21] <Fanfare> Leemp: on some appt (fullscreengames) u need to run them in window mode
[01:21] <Leemp> Fanfare: K thanks for the tip
[01:22] <kalel> and why in top left of the screen?
[01:22] <Fanfare> Leemp: î set those apps to the desired resolution with no KDE Borders...
[01:22] <draik_> What is the difference between 'top' and 'htop'?
[01:23] <Leemp> On a side note, is the upgrade from Kubuntu 8.10's KDE 4.1 to the latest KDE a smooth upgrade?
[01:24] <draik_> Leemp: IIRC, it was almost seamless
[01:25] <Leemp> draik_: nice
[01:25] <kalel> kdesk i select digital clock but not show
[01:25] <Fanfare> Leemp: yeah, upgrade is ok
[01:25] <Fanfare> !imagebin
[01:26] <Fanfare> draik_: http://imagebin.org:80/45188
[01:26] <KDesk> kalel, you can drag and drop the plasmoid to the panel
[01:27] <KDesk> kalel:  or click on "Add Widget" In the botton of the plasmoids windows
[01:27] <Leemp> Question: If i wanted to make a user level storage partition, how would i do that? By user level i mean, so programs do not have to have root to modify files in the storage area.
[01:27] <kalel> when i move system tray on right, it return in center :'(
[01:28] <Raptor-Jesus> when does kde 4.2 come out?
[01:28] <Leemp> Basically, i am going to be formatting soon with 9.04, but i only want to format by /home settings, not my /home files, so i am making a 2nd /storage partition
[01:29] <KDesk> Raptor-Jesus: Jan 2009, in -3 monts jeje.
[01:29] <Leemp> KDesk: :o
[01:29] <KDesk> Raptor-Jesus: KDE 4.3 in 3 monts more or less
[01:30] <Raptor-Jesus> kde 4.2 not 3
[01:30] <Leemp> Raptor-Jesus: He answered you. :P
[01:30] <KDesk> kalel add more plasmoids and then order the plasmoids
[01:31] <kalel> kdesk when i move plasmoids system try on right he returned on center
[01:31] <KDesk> Raptor-Jesus: KDE 4.2 came in Jan of 2009, 4.3 WILL come in +3mounts or 2
[01:32] <KDesk> kalal hmm, maybe tray to remove the system tray and add it at the end.
[01:34] <Leemp> Is the root folder "/storage" used for anything in linux? Or is it free for me to use
[01:35] <Fanfare> Leemp: not that i know of...
[01:35] <Fanfare> Leemp: why not mount to /media/XYZ?
[01:35] <KDesk> Leemp: normaly users mount stuff in /media or ~/
[01:36] <KDesk> :)
[01:36] <skarn> does a package exist for amarok 2.1 beta?
[01:36] <Fanfare> skarn: yeas in a sep repo.
[01:36] <KDesk> skarn: Ah, I didn;t knew that it was out! :-)
[01:36] <Leemp> KDesk: Well i'd like to keep my home drive formatable, but i spose i could mount to /media. I'm obviously new to linux. Trying to work this out :o
[01:37] <skarn> Fanfare:  I supposed so, but can't find it
[01:37] <Fanfare> ## Amarok 2
[01:37] <Fanfare> ## wget -q "http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9423A34CCA967634" -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:37] <Fanfare> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[01:38] <KDesk> Leemp: There is no problem with mounting in /storage or /media or /media/storage ot ~/ If you format your home you will not loose the mont partition in home. It is like the /boot partition. I formant sometimes my root, but the /boot partition is intact
[01:38] <Fanfare> skarn: sry, that is 201 right now
[01:39] <skarn> ok, I had been browsing that repo not more than 2 minutes ago
[01:39] <Fanfare> skarn: but i think amarok 2.1 will land there soon
[01:39] <skarn> I sure hope so, thanks
[01:39] <Leemp> KDesk: K thanks. So it would be ~/mymount _not_ ~/ correct? Or does linux allow you to "blend" mounts, so you can have your home and your storage mount both share the same. ... space. I'm confused now.
[01:40] <Leemp> KDesk: I was just going to make some smybolic links inside of /home/me/sym1 sym2 sym3 etc, anyway
[01:41] <KDesk> You can put them any wehere. Or/and  use symbolic links
[01:41] <Fanfare> skarn: but ur right, 2.0.2 from march didnt land there either...
[01:42] <KDesk> Leemp: But NOT mount something two or more times, but I will probably not happend.
[01:42] <Leemp> KDesk: by that you mean, dont use "~/" :o
[01:43] <skarn> Fanfare: I'm using jaunty beta, and here amarok 2.0.2 is the default...
[01:43] <KDesk> Leemp: did I say that? Oh, no. You can use ~/ if you want
[01:43] <Leemp> KDesk: I dunno, i'm just trying to get this :o
[01:43] <skarn> but id didn't eve come out for intrepid, strange indeed
[01:44] <Fanfare> skarn: so no more intrepid packages? :-( well see
[01:44] <KDesk> Leemp: ah, I say ot, that was a 'or' hehe. Maybe removable storage like usb mems in /media/ (automatcly) and fixed storage in ~/
[01:45] <Leemp> KDesk: So.. is ~/storage a valid mount point? Ie, litterally, typing "~/storage" would work? I just wanna make sure it knows ~ is /home/someuser
[01:45] <Leemp> at this early stage heh
[01:46] <Fanfare> IIRC ubuntu install places fixed 2nd disk also in /media/XYz
[01:46] <KDesk> Leemp: yes it works, In ~/storage or /home/someuser/storage.
[01:47] <KDesk> Fanfare: ah, yes, you are right.
[01:47] <Leemp> Fanfare: Well my 2nd disk is going to have /home and some type of storage partition. /home is my home obviously, but given that it has settings, i want to be able to format that with no real data loss. my storage partition is the really important one
[01:47] <amelie> hi
[01:47] <amelie> I want to know how do I get the widget for hard drive monitor
[01:48] <amelie> I used to have it, but i had a problem with my system and have to reinstall
[01:48] <amelie> and now i'm not able to get it again
[01:48] <KDesk> Leemp: but all the user settings are in ~/. folders, I mean, hidden folders, which are for example .kde or .config...
[01:48] <Leemp> Fanfare: So what were to happen if i made the 1st partition /home, but the 2nd partition ~/ ?
[01:48] <amelie> ?
[01:48] <Leemp> KDesk: Yea
[01:48] <Fanfare> then i suggest to mount it somewheere an use Symlinks for Documents /Pictures, etc (?)
[01:49] <Fanfare> Leemp: doenst matter in Linux...
[01:49] <Fanfare> as long as bootmgr is in mbr...
[01:49] <Leemp> Fanfare: 2 partitions having the same mount points doesn't matter?
[01:49] <Leemp> Fanfare: How does it decide which point it uses
[01:49] <Leemp> erm
[01:50] <Fanfare> Leemp: sry did get that wrong...
[01:50] <Leemp> say if i put a file into my home, what partition does it go on?
[01:50] <Leemp> ah
[01:50] <Fanfare> hda1 /home, hda2 /  doesnt matter
[01:51] <Leemp> so partition 1 being /home and partition 2 being ~/storage is fine, correct?
[01:51] <Leemp> actually i'd make it .storage, just to hide it, since i'll symlink everything into ~/
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[01:52] <Fanfare> Leemp: and root (/) somwhere else... yes
[01:52] <Leemp> Fanfare: Yea, those 2 are on my 2nd hardrive. My 1st has /dos and /
[01:53] <Leemp> Man it annoys me that windows can't even handle being on the 2nd partition. :o
[01:53] <Fanfare> u can mount inside a mounted filehirarchie
[01:53] <Leemp> Fanfare: pardon?
[01:54] <Fanfare> wait
[01:55] <Leemp> Fanfare: ?
[01:56] <Fanfare> http://rafb.net/p/YwsZN618.html
[01:56] <Fanfare> if hdb2 is mounted it writes files on that device...
[01:57] <Fanfare> if hdb2 is NOT mounted it writes in the directory on hdb1 !
[01:59] <Leemp> hdb2 being..? hard drive #2?
[02:00] <Leemp> Fanfare: But thats only a problem if i removed my 2nd hd right?
[02:00] <Fanfare> hda driva 1 hdb drive 2 etc
[02:01] <Fanfare> hda1, hda2, hdaX Partitions on drive 1
[02:01] <Leemp> ohh, hard drive a, hard drive b, partition 1, partition 2, k. :o
[02:01] <Fanfare> if u have /home and ssorage on hdb (2nd drive) u shouldnt remove it :-)
[02:01] <Leemp> Fanfare: I dont plan to :o
[02:02] <Fanfare> Leemp: yeah
[02:02] <Leemp> Fanfare: But really, it has the important info anyway
[02:02] <ziroday> Hi, is there a way to rebind krunner to a different shortcut key, and amarok can't find my daap shares :(
[02:02] <Leemp> Fanfare: /home/storage being the important bit
[02:03] <Fanfare> Leemp: use /home/<user>/storage
[02:03] <Leemp> Fanfare: So is it possible to install to ~/.storage? The best i could do was "/~/.storage"
[02:03] <Leemp> Not sure if it will work though
[02:04] <Fanfare> Leemp: install to? u mean mount to ~/.storage?
[02:05] <Leemp> Fanfare: Well, im defining the mount point when formatting it all, so im not sure if thats different than being in ubuntu and just mounting something via cmd line
[02:07] <Fanfare> ok, i suggest not using tilde (~)
[02:07] <Leemp> Fanfare: So you do need to bind it to a single user
[02:07] <Fanfare> replace it with /home/<your username>
[02:07] <Fanfare> Leemp: if u want to mount it inside ur homedir...
[02:08] <Fanfare> otherwise mount it inside /media and use symlinks from your homedir
[02:08] <Leemp> k
[02:08] <Leemp> Thanks for the help :)
[02:09] <Leemp> Now to reinstall kubuntu, then install windows, then back to kubuntu livecd to fix what windows broke. *sigh
[02:09] <Leemp> :o
[02:09] <Fanfare> Leemp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282018
[02:13] <Fanfare> Leemp: Why not install Win first? ubuntu handles Win installs corretly
[02:13] <ziroday> Hi, is there a way to rebind krunner to a different shortcut key
[02:14] <Fanfare> ziroday: <alt>+<f2>?
[02:15] <ziroday> Fanfare: I would like to change it to super+spacebar
[02:15] <Fanfare> ziroday: systemsettings > keyborad& mouse > global settings
[02:15] <ziroday> Fanfare: thansk!
[02:17] <Leemp> dag nabit. Can't cancel this installation :o, gatta wait for it to finish, but i cant even see it because the window closed :D
[02:17] <ziroday> Fanfare: under which component?
[02:18] <kingjere> Installed jaunty beta today. Oddly enough I give it a 9.04 out of 10
[02:18] <Fanfare> ziroday: run command interface
[02:19] <Leemp> kingjere: Is that ext4 bug still an issue?
[02:19] <kingjere> don't know. I used ext3 exclusively.
[02:19] <Leemp> kingjere: You're not even going to use ext4 when its official?
[02:21] <kingjere> Leemp: I use the alternate and didn't know if it can boot from ext4 so I played it safe.
[02:21] <Leemp> kingjere: Right
[02:21] <kingjere> Leemp: can it?
[02:21] <Leemp> kingjere: No idea
[02:21] <Leemp> kingjere: I'm more worried about the ext4 bug :o
[02:22] <kingjere> Leemp: only one way to find out ;)
[02:22] <Leemp> kingjere: It has (or had) a gnarly massive data loss bug
[02:22] <kingjere> Leemp: got my backups standing by.
[02:23] <kingjere> Leemp: my major complaint is I'm still suffering from the nvidia suspend issues
[02:33] <Fanfare> Q: on a share i have video.mpg . When requesting video.avi i want it to autoreencode and send . is that possible?
[02:38] <BigTexInBigD> Hi!  I have created a mess when trying to upgrate to openoffice 3.01
[02:38] <BigTexInBigD> I need some help please
[02:39] <wirechief> BigTexInBigD: what happened
[02:41] <BigTexInBigD> I follwed the instructions here: http://wolfs-ubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/10/openoffice-30-on-810.html
[02:43] <BigTexInBigD> At least I think i did.  after the "upgrade" I found I had NO openoffice.  When I went back thru Add/delete to re-install I get this error: Cannot commit chagesl
[02:43] <BigTexInBigD> changes
[02:43] <wirechief> doesnt look like i would of tried that.
[02:43] <BigTexInBigD> yeah
[02:43] <BigTexInBigD> I see that now
[02:43] <BigTexInBigD> lol
[02:44] <BigTexInBigD> I am a newbie so I don't know anybetter
[02:44] <BigTexInBigD> :-)
[02:44] <wirechief> well you use a different method than i
[02:45] <BigTexInBigD> so... how do i un-F this this?
[02:45] <wirechief> so you had openoffice 2.0 ?
[02:45] <BigTexInBigD> yes... part of 8.04.2
[02:45] <BigTexInBigD> 2.4 I think
[02:45] <wirechief> hmm well maybe you still have it.
[02:46] <BigTexInBigD> no longer in start menu (I am not that comfortable with command lin yet)
[02:46] <Neon_> hey guys, I'm dual booting but everytime I access my windows partition i have to submit my root password.  Anyone have a solution for this?
[02:46] <wirechief> i would look in /var/cache/apt/archives  for openoffice.deb's
[02:46] <BigTexInBigD> ok...looking now
[02:46] <wirechief> you might have both 3 and 2 if so you could then just uninstall 3
[02:47] <wirechief> and use 2
[02:48] <wirechief> but i dont know why you got a problem when you used the synaptic
[02:48] <BigTexInBigD> using Dolphin I can see I have a BUNCH of OO files
[02:48] <wirechief> .deb files ?
[02:49] <BigTexInBigD> does dolphin have a search fucntion?
[02:49] <BigTexInBigD> nm
[02:50] <wirechief> well i use konqueror for my desktop and stuff
[02:50] <wirechief> not really familar with dolphin
[02:50] <BigTexInBigD> openoffice.deb is not there
[02:51] <BigTexInBigD> let me look via Konqueror
[02:51] <kingjere> BigTexInBigD: either CTRL+F or Tools > Find
[02:51] <wirechief> you can do this dpkg -l |grep openoffice   and that will show whats installed if it has a ii on it
[02:52] <BigTexInBigD> I do this at Konsole correct?
[02:52] <wirechief> yes
[02:53] <BigTexInBigD> here is the resullts: http://pastebin.com/m64951071
[02:55] <wirechief> ok i am seeing this one on mine ii  openoffice.org-writer                      1:3.0.1-9ubuntu2
[02:55] <wirechief> maybe thats 3
[02:55] <wirechief> yours might be 2
[02:56] <wirechief> let me check my menu
[02:56] <BigTexInBigD> if I remove the intrepid source that I added for Adept and try again would that work?
[02:57] <wirechief> yes what im seeing on mine is 3 , yours must be 2
[02:57] <BigTexInBigD> ok.... how do I fix this?
[02:57] <wirechief> i would do  apt-get update   then  apt-get install openoffice   and see what happens
[02:58] <wirechief> its liable to give you 3
[02:58] <BigTexInBigD> removing teh source I added to intrepid?
[02:58] <wirechief> what source
[02:58] <wirechief> did you mess with the sources.list ?
[02:59] <BigTexInBigD> yes... but I have fixed that now
[03:00] <BigTexInBigD> I was following the info on that blog
[03:00] <wirechief> well i hope you made a backup copy before you did anything, its easy to muck that up.
[03:00] <BigTexInBigD> (never again)
[03:00] <BigTexInBigD> 0628missoula3338
[03:00] <wirechief> so what version are you using ? 8.10 kubuntu ?
[03:00] <BigTexInBigD> yes
[03:01] <wirechief> well do apt-get update   and see if it goes through without errors
[03:01] <wirechief> thats sudo apt-get update
[03:02] <BigTexInBigD> ok.  using adept intaller (GUI) I get an BREAK  at openoffice.org
[03:03] <wirechief> what kind of break
[03:05] <wirechief> well im running out of time.. gotta run and catch a bus   good luck
[03:06] <BigTexInBigD> BREAK (Install)
[03:06] <BigTexInBigD> how do I do this in Konsole so I can post the results for you?
[03:06] <BigTexInBigD> thanks....
[03:06] <BigTexInBigD> can anyone pick up the ball?
[03:09] <Leemp> Question: alright.. Anyone have any pointers on dual monitor setups? I am having no luck in making the 2nd monitor NOT clone the 1st..
[03:09] <votaguz> how i can see the Storage Devices Connected on Kde4 ?
[03:10] <Leemp> votaguz: Go to the lower right hand corner and click on the little computer & monitor
[03:10] <Leemp> votaguz: Or go to the kde/startmenu thing, then to the Computer tab