[00:00] ah, yeah [00:00] I meant libgl1-mesa [00:00] tsimpson, what would happen if i burned the .ISO and tried to upgrade, via that? I mean, I don't want to tie you up, for all this time. [00:00] Zirg: you can't upgrade from booting, only install [00:01] crap. looks like i'm gonna end up rsync'ing ~/ and reinstalling. [00:02] Zirg: may be quicker [00:02] Zirg: is home on a seperate partition? [00:02] ActionParsnip1, oh hades, no. [00:02] Zirg: bah, that'd make life way easier [00:03] ActionParsnip1, if it was, i wouldn't give an aerial intercourse. [00:03] indeed [00:03] well, i guess i may as well unplug this thing and take it to the shop. (heavy sigh) [00:03] the only way to work through issues like that is to try installing each non-installable package one-by-one until you either, get the real reason why it's failing, or fix it [00:03] Zirg: i'd suggest you implement it in the clean install [00:04] ActionParsnip1, yup. and i'm gonna use 8.04 KDE 3.x vice 8.10 KDE 4.(breakage) [00:04] tsimpson, Thank You Very MUCH for the assist and thoughts! [00:04] It IS appreciated. [00:05] Rule 1 (to updating/upgrading from repos): Be sure you're online before you think that your new Kubuntu install is "stupid". [00:06] With that said, Hello all. Hope your day is going well. [00:07] anyone else having problems with chatting on pidigin. seems no one can receive my messages i send :( [00:07] ralema56: works fine here [00:07] I'm running Jaunty and don't have any problems [00:08] ralema56: try renaming ~/.purple and rerunning the app, you will need to readd your accounts but this will allow you to test. You can rename back after the test [00:15] Hey, what command do I need to get my Broadcom wireless and nVidia GeForce GO 6150 drivers installed? [00:15] I'm using Kubuntu 8.04 [00:16] ??? [00:19] ralema56: What IM service? I tend to that issues with the MSN/Hotmail messenger for some odd reason. Yahoo will disconnect from time to time, but will reconnect itself. [00:19] Hey, what command do I need to get my Broadcom wireless and nVidia GeForce GO 6150 drivers installed on Kubuntu 8.04? [00:19] *tend to HAVE that issue... [00:19] tjb: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180; sudo nvidia-xconfig [00:20] tjb: then restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace and then you'll be ok [00:20] tjb: the broadcom chip will need identifying with lspci [00:22] !schedule [00:22] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [00:22] !botsnack [00:22] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [00:24] ActionParsnip: Couldn't find package! :( [00:24] !release [00:24] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [00:24] Hi @ all [00:25] tjb: start from KMenu -> System -> Hardware Drivers [00:25] !hello | Fanfare [00:25] Fanfare: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [00:31] tsimpson: it says nvidia_new not in use but with a x in the middle [00:32] !user [00:32] To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo [00:32] I messed up my /etc/sudoers file. Is there a way to undo the damage? [00:33] tjb: I guess you should try activating it [00:34] draik_: i can send you mine [00:34] draik_: you can then boot to recovery root console and overwrite the bad file [00:34] draik_: there is an example in /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sudoers [00:35] just add the line "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" at the end of that [00:35] ActionParsnip1: I can't 'sudo" so I'm screwed with any changes [00:35] I'll try recovery mode [00:35] draik_: http://pastebin.com/f503492a7 [00:35] draik_: if you boot to recovery root console you will be root, so wont need to sudo [00:35] tsimpson: I entered an incorrect syntax. [00:36] draik_: that's why you should use sudoedit [00:36] tsimpson: I've never heard of sudoedit. [00:36] !sudoedit [00:36] To edit files with !superuser access using the user's standard editor (as set in the EDITOR !shell variable) and its normal configuration, the command « sudoedit » is available. It creates a local copy of the file, and runs the editor with the user's permissions. [00:36] or is it visudo [00:36] Sweet [00:36] !visudo [00:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about visudo [00:37] Thanks tsimpson. I'll keep that in mind. [00:37] no, it's visudo [00:37] visudo - edit the sudoers file [00:38] if you use that, it'll tell you that it's bad syntax and refuse to save === Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr [00:50] !imagebin [00:50] Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel. [00:55] ragazzi ki mi aiuta a ripristinare la barra di kubuntu? [00:56] kalel: ??? [00:57] kalel: en pls [00:57] it@kalel [00:57] Fanfare: ???, English please ;) [00:57] hmm.. [00:57] !it | kalel [00:57] kalel: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [00:57] :-) [00:58] ah, that was, I have to remember that [00:58] !bot [00:58] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [00:58] fanfare [00:58] usage guide ^ [00:58] i'm italian [00:58] but i have a problem [00:59] sorry for my english [00:59] do you help me? [00:59] kalel: i'm german so dont worry [00:59] kalel: we'll try... [00:59] kalel: Don't worry about the language. We'll ask you to clarify if we can't understand. What's the issue? [01:00] kalel: if you want help in italian, write /join #ubuntu-it [01:01] in #ubuntu-it they isn't help me [01:01] my issue is [01:01] kalel: so ask here in english [01:02] ok [01:02] reset menu bar [01:02] plasmoidi [01:03] i want reset the original menu bar [01:03] i loss it [01:04] Do you mean the bar at the bottom of the Kubuntu dashboard? === husaini is now known as Guest74211 [01:04] kalel: with the plasmoids, clock, etc.? [01:05] K Menu, Home folder, system tray, clock, trash, etc? [01:05] yes kdesk === Guest74211 is now known as Husaini === ruben is now known as Guest43565 [01:05] i see 13 updates bottom left [01:05] many bugs for jaunty beta version [01:05] oh god [01:05] but i don't see bar [01:06] kelel, hmm, that is bad to not have a option to at the default panel. [01:06] kalel you have to add ~6 different plasmoids [01:07] i try to send you my desktop [01:07] kalel do you know who to add a panel or plasmoids? [01:07] i don't know :( [01:08] i want reset bar [01:08] the bar like windows bar for example [01:08] kalel ok :) right click any where in the desktop in one empty place [01:08] and select in the menu Add panel. [01:09] Kalel, you have to add first a panel to add widgets there, or add the widgets in the desktop/dashboard [01:10] kalel: I dont know how to reset the bar to the defaults. But It is not difficult to add a new one. [01:10] ok i try [01:10] right click any where in the desktop in one empty area [01:10] ok, i think that my bar is invisible of my screen [01:12] i add a panel [01:12] panel is alt [01:12] m === ubuntu is now known as Leemp [01:13] i want panel in bottom [01:13] kalel what do you mean with panel is alt? [01:13] at the top of the screen? [01:14] Question: I just installed Kubuntu, and realized i need to make a change to my partitions. Now, for the life of me i cannot find the KDE version of "GParted". Can anyone point me in the right direction? [01:14] yes at the top [01:14] leemp you can install gparted without problems [01:14] Leemp: qtparted [01:15] Kdesk at the top of thee screen [01:15] Fanfare: Well thats what i thought, but _where_ is it? I found it from searching, but i cannot locate it on the kubuntu livecd [01:15] leemp but if you want to change something in a root partition, it has to be unmounted [01:15] Leemp: on live CD usee gparted [01:15] kalel: ok, do you see the yellow thing at the right of the panel? [01:16] Fanfare: Ok.. _where_ is that? [01:16] yes [01:16] Fanfare: I've been scanning the kde menus, and i see nothing of help heh [01:16] kdesk yes [01:16] Leemp: did u try in konsole? [01:16] Leemp: you can also download a live cd of system rescue, because qtparted is very old and has manu known bugs. But I remember there is also a new one. [01:17] KDesk: So KDE doesn't have its own? That surprises me [01:17] kdesk now my bar is bottom [01:17] kalel: click it and then click (but dont release) on the button that says Screen edge [01:18] Fanfare: Well no, but thats sort of not the point :o. I'm trying KDE because of the environment, not the console. I like consoles just as much as the next guy, but my decision for KDE over Gnome is not based on using the console. :) [01:18] kalel: ah, ok :) now add the widgets/plasmoids that you want [01:18] Fanfare: So, with your answer, i'm going to assume the Kubuntu livecd has no partition tools? [01:18] what plasmoids? [01:19] Leemp: the livecd has the installer with the partition manager, but you can also install gparted. [01:19] kalal for the K menu the Application lanucher [01:20] Anyway u cant repartition a running system partition... [01:20] Leemp: there is one program named partitionmanager for kde [01:20] kdesk i notice in top left, if i clik i see windows open [01:20] And while im here, any one got any words of warning for setting up dual monitors on KDE? Any "DONT USE X PROGRAM" warnings? [01:20] Leemp: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Partition+Manager?content=89595 [01:21] kalel that is I think a effect/plugin of kwin, the kde windows manager [01:21] Leemp: on some appt (fullscreengames) u need to run them in window mode [01:21] Fanfare: K thanks for the tip [01:22] and why in top left of the screen? [01:22] Leemp: î set those apps to the desired resolution with no KDE Borders... [01:22] What is the difference between 'top' and 'htop'? [01:23] On a side note, is the upgrade from Kubuntu 8.10's KDE 4.1 to the latest KDE a smooth upgrade? [01:24] Leemp: IIRC, it was almost seamless [01:25] draik_: nice [01:25] kdesk i select digital clock but not show [01:25] Leemp: yeah, upgrade is ok [01:25] !imagebin [01:25] Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel. [01:26] draik_: http://imagebin.org:80/45188 [01:26] kalel, you can drag and drop the plasmoid to the panel [01:27] kalel: or click on "Add Widget" In the botton of the plasmoids windows [01:27] Question: If i wanted to make a user level storage partition, how would i do that? By user level i mean, so programs do not have to have root to modify files in the storage area. [01:27] when i move system tray on right, it return in center :'( [01:28] when does kde 4.2 come out? [01:28] Basically, i am going to be formatting soon with 9.04, but i only want to format by /home settings, not my /home files, so i am making a 2nd /storage partition [01:29] Raptor-Jesus: Jan 2009, in -3 monts jeje. [01:29] KDesk: :o [01:29] Raptor-Jesus: KDE 4.3 in 3 monts more or less [01:30] kde 4.2 not 3 [01:30] Raptor-Jesus: He answered you. :P [01:30] kalel add more plasmoids and then order the plasmoids [01:31] kdesk when i move plasmoids system try on right he returned on center [01:31] Raptor-Jesus: KDE 4.2 came in Jan of 2009, 4.3 WILL come in +3mounts or 2 [01:32] kalal hmm, maybe tray to remove the system tray and add it at the end. [01:34] Is the root folder "/storage" used for anything in linux? Or is it free for me to use [01:35] Leemp: not that i know of... [01:35] Leemp: why not mount to /media/XYZ? [01:35] Leemp: normaly users mount stuff in /media or ~/ [01:36] :) [01:36] does a package exist for amarok 2.1 beta? [01:36] skarn: yeas in a sep repo. [01:36] skarn: Ah, I didn;t knew that it was out! :-) [01:36] KDesk: Well i'd like to keep my home drive formatable, but i spose i could mount to /media. I'm obviously new to linux. Trying to work this out :o [01:37] Fanfare: I supposed so, but can't find it [01:37] ## Amarok 2 [01:37] ## wget -q "http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9423A34CCA967634" -O- | sudo apt-key add - [01:37] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main [01:38] Leemp: There is no problem with mounting in /storage or /media or /media/storage ot ~/ If you format your home you will not loose the mont partition in home. It is like the /boot partition. I formant sometimes my root, but the /boot partition is intact [01:38] skarn: sry, that is 201 right now [01:39] ok, I had been browsing that repo not more than 2 minutes ago [01:39] skarn: but i think amarok 2.1 will land there soon [01:39] I sure hope so, thanks [01:39] KDesk: K thanks. So it would be ~/mymount _not_ ~/ correct? Or does linux allow you to "blend" mounts, so you can have your home and your storage mount both share the same. ... space. I'm confused now. [01:40] KDesk: I was just going to make some smybolic links inside of /home/me/sym1 sym2 sym3 etc, anyway [01:41] You can put them any wehere. Or/and use symbolic links [01:41] skarn: but ur right, 2.0.2 from march didnt land there either... [01:42] Leemp: But NOT mount something two or more times, but I will probably not happend. [01:42] KDesk: by that you mean, dont use "~/" :o [01:43] Fanfare: I'm using jaunty beta, and here amarok 2.0.2 is the default... [01:43] Leemp: did I say that? Oh, no. You can use ~/ if you want [01:43] KDesk: I dunno, i'm just trying to get this :o [01:43] but id didn't eve come out for intrepid, strange indeed [01:44] skarn: so no more intrepid packages? :-( well see [01:44] Leemp: ah, I say ot, that was a 'or' hehe. Maybe removable storage like usb mems in /media/ (automatcly) and fixed storage in ~/ [01:45] KDesk: So.. is ~/storage a valid mount point? Ie, litterally, typing "~/storage" would work? I just wanna make sure it knows ~ is /home/someuser [01:45] at this early stage heh [01:46] IIRC ubuntu install places fixed 2nd disk also in /media/XYz [01:46] Leemp: yes it works, In ~/storage or /home/someuser/storage. [01:47] Fanfare: ah, yes, you are right. [01:47] Fanfare: Well my 2nd disk is going to have /home and some type of storage partition. /home is my home obviously, but given that it has settings, i want to be able to format that with no real data loss. my storage partition is the really important one [01:47] hi [01:47] I want to know how do I get the widget for hard drive monitor [01:48] I used to have it, but i had a problem with my system and have to reinstall [01:48] and now i'm not able to get it again [01:48] Leemp: but all the user settings are in ~/. folders, I mean, hidden folders, which are for example .kde or .config... [01:48] Fanfare: So what were to happen if i made the 1st partition /home, but the 2nd partition ~/ ? [01:48] ? [01:48] KDesk: Yea [01:48] then i suggest to mount it somewheere an use Symlinks for Documents /Pictures, etc (?) [01:49] Leemp: doenst matter in Linux... [01:49] as long as bootmgr is in mbr... [01:49] Fanfare: 2 partitions having the same mount points doesn't matter? [01:49] Fanfare: How does it decide which point it uses [01:49] erm [01:50] Leemp: sry did get that wrong... [01:50] say if i put a file into my home, what partition does it go on? [01:50] ah [01:50] hda1 /home, hda2 / doesnt matter [01:51] so partition 1 being /home and partition 2 being ~/storage is fine, correct? [01:51] actually i'd make it .storage, just to hide it, since i'll symlink everything into ~/ [01:52] !trash [01:52] The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash [01:52] Leemp: and root (/) somwhere else... yes [01:52] Fanfare: Yea, those 2 are on my 2nd hardrive. My 1st has /dos and / [01:53] Man it annoys me that windows can't even handle being on the 2nd partition. :o [01:53] u can mount inside a mounted filehirarchie [01:53] Fanfare: pardon? [01:54] wait [01:55] Fanfare: ? [01:56] http://rafb.net/p/YwsZN618.html [01:56] if hdb2 is mounted it writes files on that device... [01:57] if hdb2 is NOT mounted it writes in the directory on hdb1 ! [01:59] hdb2 being..? hard drive #2? [02:00] Fanfare: But thats only a problem if i removed my 2nd hd right? [02:00] hda driva 1 hdb drive 2 etc [02:01] hda1, hda2, hdaX Partitions on drive 1 [02:01] ohh, hard drive a, hard drive b, partition 1, partition 2, k. :o [02:01] if u have /home and ssorage on hdb (2nd drive) u shouldnt remove it :-) [02:01] Fanfare: I dont plan to :o [02:02] Leemp: yeah [02:02] Fanfare: But really, it has the important info anyway [02:02] Hi, is there a way to rebind krunner to a different shortcut key, and amarok can't find my daap shares :( [02:02] Fanfare: /home/storage being the important bit [02:03] Leemp: use /home//storage [02:03] Fanfare: So is it possible to install to ~/.storage? The best i could do was "/~/.storage" [02:03] Not sure if it will work though [02:04] Leemp: install to? u mean mount to ~/.storage? [02:05] Fanfare: Well, im defining the mount point when formatting it all, so im not sure if thats different than being in ubuntu and just mounting something via cmd line [02:07] ok, i suggest not using tilde (~) [02:07] Fanfare: So you do need to bind it to a single user [02:07] replace it with /home/ [02:07] Leemp: if u want to mount it inside ur homedir... [02:08] otherwise mount it inside /media and use symlinks from your homedir [02:08] k [02:08] Thanks for the help :) [02:09] Now to reinstall kubuntu, then install windows, then back to kubuntu livecd to fix what windows broke. *sigh [02:09] :o [02:09] Leemp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282018 [02:13] Leemp: Why not install Win first? ubuntu handles Win installs corretly [02:13] Hi, is there a way to rebind krunner to a different shortcut key [02:14] ziroday: +? [02:15] Fanfare: I would like to change it to super+spacebar [02:15] ziroday: systemsettings > keyborad& mouse > global settings [02:15] Fanfare: thansk! [02:17] dag nabit. Can't cancel this installation :o, gatta wait for it to finish, but i cant even see it because the window closed :D [02:17] Fanfare: under which component? [02:18] Installed jaunty beta today. Oddly enough I give it a 9.04 out of 10 [02:18] ziroday: run command interface [02:19] kingjere: Is that ext4 bug still an issue? [02:19] don't know. I used ext3 exclusively. [02:19] kingjere: You're not even going to use ext4 when its official? [02:21] Leemp: I use the alternate and didn't know if it can boot from ext4 so I played it safe. [02:21] kingjere: Right [02:21] Leemp: can it? [02:21] kingjere: No idea [02:21] kingjere: I'm more worried about the ext4 bug :o [02:22] Leemp: only one way to find out ;) [02:22] kingjere: It has (or had) a gnarly massive data loss bug [02:22] Leemp: got my backups standing by. [02:23] Leemp: my major complaint is I'm still suffering from the nvidia suspend issues [02:33] Q: on a share i have video.mpg . When requesting video.avi i want it to autoreencode and send . is that possible? [02:38] Hi! I have created a mess when trying to upgrate to openoffice 3.01 [02:38] I need some help please [02:39] BigTexInBigD: what happened [02:41] I follwed the instructions here: http://wolfs-ubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/10/openoffice-30-on-810.html [02:43] At least I think i did. after the "upgrade" I found I had NO openoffice. When I went back thru Add/delete to re-install I get this error: Cannot commit chagesl [02:43] changes [02:43] doesnt look like i would of tried that. === russell is now known as Guest78140 [02:43] yeah [02:43] I see that now [02:43] lol [02:44] I am a newbie so I don't know anybetter [02:44] :-) [02:44] well you use a different method than i [02:45] so... how do i un-F this this? [02:45] so you had openoffice 2.0 ? [02:45] yes... part of 8.04.2 [02:45] 2.4 I think [02:45] hmm well maybe you still have it. [02:46] no longer in start menu (I am not that comfortable with command lin yet) [02:46] hey guys, I'm dual booting but everytime I access my windows partition i have to submit my root password. Anyone have a solution for this? [02:46] i would look in /var/cache/apt/archives for openoffice.deb's [02:46] ok...looking now [02:46] you might have both 3 and 2 if so you could then just uninstall 3 [02:47] and use 2 [02:48] but i dont know why you got a problem when you used the synaptic [02:48] using Dolphin I can see I have a BUNCH of OO files [02:48] .deb files ? [02:49] does dolphin have a search fucntion? [02:49] nm [02:50] well i use konqueror for my desktop and stuff [02:50] not really familar with dolphin [02:50] openoffice.deb is not there [02:51] let me look via Konqueror [02:51] BigTexInBigD: either CTRL+F or Tools > Find [02:51] you can do this dpkg -l |grep openoffice and that will show whats installed if it has a ii on it [02:52] I do this at Konsole correct? [02:52] yes [02:53] here is the resullts: http://pastebin.com/m64951071 [02:55] ok i am seeing this one on mine ii openoffice.org-writer 1:3.0.1-9ubuntu2 [02:55] maybe thats 3 [02:55] yours might be 2 [02:56] let me check my menu [02:56] if I remove the intrepid source that I added for Adept and try again would that work? [02:57] yes what im seeing on mine is 3 , yours must be 2 [02:57] ok.... how do I fix this? [02:57] i would do apt-get update then apt-get install openoffice and see what happens [02:58] its liable to give you 3 [02:58] removing teh source I added to intrepid? [02:58] what source [02:58] did you mess with the sources.list ? [02:59] yes... but I have fixed that now [03:00] I was following the info on that blog [03:00] well i hope you made a backup copy before you did anything, its easy to muck that up. [03:00] (never again) [03:00] 0628missoula3338 [03:00] so what version are you using ? 8.10 kubuntu ? [03:00] yes [03:01] well do apt-get update and see if it goes through without errors [03:01] thats sudo apt-get update [03:02] ok. using adept intaller (GUI) I get an BREAK at openoffice.org [03:03] what kind of break [03:05] well im running out of time.. gotta run and catch a bus good luck === tdapple_ is now known as tdapple === lee_ is now known as Leemp [03:06] BREAK (Install) [03:06] how do I do this in Konsole so I can post the results for you? [03:06] thanks.... [03:06] can anyone pick up the ball? [03:09] Question: alright.. Anyone have any pointers on dual monitor setups? I am having no luck in making the 2nd monitor NOT clone the 1st.. [03:09] how i can see the Storage Devices Connected on Kde4 ? [03:10] votaguz: Go to the lower right hand corner and click on the little computer & monitor [03:10] votaguz: Or go to the kde/startmenu thing, then to the Computer tab