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macodoes the lp api include a way to find out what date a bug was marked as a certain status?00:10
wgrantLarstiQ, SamB: Both bzr-svn and bzr-git are coming RSN, IIRC.00:11
wgrantmaco: date_$(some_status) on the bugtask.00:12
wgranthttps://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#bug_task00:12
wgrantThe full activity log isn't exposed over the API, but those dates are stored separately.00:13
macoawesome. so i should theoretically be able to subtract the date reported from the date marked fix released and find out how long the bug was open?00:13
wgrantYes.00:13
MiloszHmm00:59
MiloszOne more package just built in my PPA00:59
MiloszBut it's not in the repository00:59
Milosznvm01:05
Miloszone other question, the screenshots synaptic is able to get, where would I need to put one?01:05
MiloszIt's only possible to register bazaar repositories with LaunchPad?02:22
CarlFKhow long does it take between dput "Successfully uploaded packages." and it showing up on https://edge.launchpad.net/~carlfk/+archive/ppa ?02:27
CarlFK"Pending 0" makes me nervous02:28
MiloszCarlFK, for me around 5 minutes02:28
Miloszdon't be nervous :)02:28
CarlFKhow about anxious?02:31
CarlFKi do recall seeing something about a lag02:32
wgrantCarlFK: Uploads are processed every 5 minutes - they will then show as Pending for up to 20 minutes. Once they change to Published, apt-get will be able to see them.02:38
CarlFK5 and 20 min have come and gone, and I still don't see anything - here is my build and dput output: http://dpaste.com/32162/03:00
CarlFKwas I sposed to change something in .dput.cf ?  I remember getting some notice a while ago.. month or 203:01
wgrantCarlFK: Pastebin your .dput.cf03:06
wgrantCarlFK: I see you had a similar problem about three months ago, but in that case the problem was that you weren't using the right key.03:06
wgrantThat isn't the problem here :(03:07
CarlFKwgrant:  http://dpaste.com/32164/03:08
wgrantCarlFK: Try ~carlfk/ubuntu/ppa instead.03:08
wgrantBut I doon't think it should be a silent reject if you leave off that last bit...03:08
CarlFK"Already uploaded to ppa.launchpad.net; Doing nothing for pdf417enc_4.4-ppa1_source.changes"03:08
wgrantdput -f03:09
CarlFKSuccessfully uploaded ... now I wait...03:10
wgrantCan you pastebin your changes file? (make sure it's unsigned, if you have upload rights to anywhere else)03:17
CarlFKwgrant: http://dpaste.com/32168/03:22
wgrantCarlFK: The distribution is wrong (change that in debian/changelog), but that should get you an emailed rejection, not a silent one.03:23
wgrantCarlFK: You're not getting any email response at all?03:23
CarlFKcorrect03:24
wgrantTry fixing the distribution.03:24
CarlFKSuccessfully uploaded packages.03:29
CarlFKwhew.. i before x:30 :)03:29
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CarlFKwgrant: is my changelog right? http://dpaste.com/32170/03:43
wgrantCarlFK: Yes.03:45
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wgrantAlthough that version string is debatable, it's not technically wrong.03:46
CarlFKwhat's a better one?03:46
wgrant-0ppa1 is good, as it sorts below both official Ubuntu and Debian versions.03:47
SamBhttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA suggests appending "~ppa<n>"03:51
SamBoh, after incrementing the last component of the preceding portion of the version number03:51
dtchenand best practices recommend actually using your LP id03:51
dtchene.g., pulseaudio-0.9.14-0ubuntu100~crimsun103:52
SamBhmm. but doesn't that give precedence to versions packaged by people with names beginning with "z"?03:52
dtchenc sorts before z...03:53
SamByeah, and doesn't a version number that sorts later take precence?03:53
SamBer. +de03:53
dtchenyes, but if pulseaudio-0.9.14-0ubuntu99 is in the archive, then uploading pulseaudio-0.9.14-0ubuntu100~crimsun1 is ok until pulseaudio-0.9.14-0ubuntu100 is uploaded, upon which ~crimsun1 is superceded03:54
dtchen(rather, it should be pulseaudio_0.9.14-0ubuntu99, but whatever)03:55
SamBI'm just teasing about what happens if you have foo-1.2-0ubuntu1~frotz and then someone comes along and makes foo-1.2-0ubuntu1~glulxe03:56
dtchenwell either glulxe is an Evil Daemon and you have to battle to the death, or you can just not have glulxe's PPA in your sources.list(5)03:57
wgrantI use -XubuntuY~wgrant1 if I'm producing something that I know will be -XubuntuY in the primary archive.03:57
CarlFKdoh.. just found a bunch of reject messages ...04:00
wgrantHeh.04:01
CarlFKCould not find suite 'ppa'04:01
wgrantI didn't think I saw any of the usual silent rejection candidates.04:01
wgrantBlah.04:01
wgrant~carlfk/ppa/ubuntu04:01
CarlFKha04:01
wgrantAnd all of the earlier uploads failed because they couldn't find a distroseries named 'unstable'?04:02
CarlFKyup04:02
CarlFKwgrant:  "Rejected: Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution. Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a series in the 'CURRENT' state. "04:14
CarlFKincoming = ~<your_launchpad_id>/<ppa_name>/ubuntu/04:15
CarlFKmissing / maybe..04:16
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CarlFKgah!04:17
CarlFKreject messages are out of sync with what I am doing04:18
CarlFKRejected: pdf417enc_4.4-0ppa1.dsc: Section 'unknown' is not valid04:18
wgrantCarlFK: The RELEASE pocket error is because you uploaded to Ubuntu, not your PPA.04:18
wgrantThee section one is legitimate, but will probably go away in a month or two.04:18
CarlFKNow running lintian... E: pdf417enc_4.4-0ppa2_source.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file jaunty04:25
CarlFKW: pdf417enc source: dh-make-template-in-source debian/pdf417enc.doc-base.EX04:25
CarlFKanything I should do something about?04:25
wgrantThat last one, yes.04:26
wgrantThe former is lintian being outdated.04:26
wgrantYou probably just want to remove the latter.04:27
CarlFKWhere is the list of valid sections?04:42
CarlFKand why can't I make up my own...04:42
CarlFKso much for trying to outsmart it: pdf417enc_4.4-0ppa3.dsc: Section '-' is not valid04:51
CarlFKPending         3  yay.04:58
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wgrantCarlFK: Where did that '3' come from?05:23
wgrantI don't recall seeing that last time I looked at a pending publishing.05:23
CarlFK3 archs05:25
CarlFKdpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libgif.so.4 needed by debian/pdf417enc/usr/bin/pdf417prep (its RPATH is '').05:26
CarlFKah, -dev isn't libgif405:26
wgrantCarlFK: You know you can use something like pbuilder or sbuild to test locally, right?05:32
CarlFKkinda - it buit OK for i386, not sure why x64 has a problem05:48
wgrantCarlFK: I don't know why that's failing - do you have an amd64 machine on which to test?05:50
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CarlFKwgrant: x64 box:06:07
CarlFKls -l /usr/lib/libgif.so.4; lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2009-01-30 09:56 /usr/lib/libgif.so.4 -> libgif.so.4.1.606:07
CarlFKdpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libgif.so.406:07
CarlFKbut plain ol make clean && make works06:08
wgrantCarlFK: Which package owns libgif.so.4 there?06:09
wgrantAnd does it build in a pbuilder or sbuild?06:09
CarlFKpbuilder - I need to set that up on the x64 box.  what is sbuild?06:15
CarlFKapt-file search libgif.so.4 (returned nothing?!)06:15
wgrantsbuild is what the buildds use, but its more common configurations require LVM so it's a bit more heavyweight.06:15
CarlFKah, I guess i dont need to sudo the apt-file update06:24
wgrantgmb: I do like the new comment/change merging.06:24
CarlFKcarl@dv67:~/temp/pdf417enc-4.4$ apt-file search libgif.so.406:25
CarlFKgiflib-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgif.so.4.1.606:25
CarlFKlibgif4: /usr/lib/libgif.so.406:25
wgrantCarlFK: Oops, I missed that second last line of yours - 'dpkg -S libgif.so.4' would have done it.06:25
wgrantHmm.06:25
wgrantWell, I don't know.06:25
CarlFKim done for tonight... thanks for the help06:27
wgrantnpp06:27
wgrantGah.06:27
wgrantX seems to now be respecting GNOME's key repeat settings.06:28
wgrantIt wasn't in Intrepid :(06:28
seiflotfy1hi guys09:20
seiflotfy1i did most of the zeitgeist wokr but my contact was set on seif@schroeder09:22
seiflotfy1so non of the karma was given to me09:22
seiflotfy1it was supposed to be seif@lotfy.com09:22
seiflotfy1can i get the karma transfered09:22
wgrantseiflotfy1: I don't see any valid branches for zeitgeist - but anyway, you'd do better to ask on a weekday.09:28
lifelessseiflotfy1: just add the other address to your account, or merge your account09:29
lifelesss09:29
seiflotfy1lp:gnome-zeitgeist09:29
wgrantAh, gnome-zeitgeist. I was looking at plain zeitgeist, which seems to be a dupe.09:29
wgrantlifeless: It looks like it has a hostname rather than an FQDN...09:29
lifelesswgrant: ah09:30
lifelessseiflotfy1: or ask a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad09:30
wgrantA sysadmin could certainly do that without too much trouble, but IIRC historically they've said no.09:30
seiflotfy1IIRC ?09:30
wgrantIf I Recall Correctly.09:31
lifelesswgrant: actually, its not that easy :P09:31
lifelessthere isn't a ui form to do it, so its a bunch of sql09:31
wgrantlifeless: The Person creation process does it, so it must be pretty easy.09:31
wgrantOh, sure.09:31
lifelesswgrant: account joining is complex and automated, but this wouldn't be account joining if its nto a valid email09:31
wgrantlifeless: Right.09:32
seiflotfy1problem is seif@schroeder is not an address09:34
seiflotfy1its my account on my computer09:34
seiflotfy1schroeder is my pc09:34
wgrantlifeless is most probably right: ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, and somebody will fix it if they can.09:35
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vikashkoushikHi guys12:31
vikashkoushikWhat is PPA in launch pad?12:32
hyperairvikashkoushik: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=launchpad+ppa12:33
Persihi, jaunty does a good job of preparing bug reports, and then it sends me to launchpad page, do I have to subscribe to a bug in order to report it?13:55
geserthe reporter is automatically subscribed to a bug13:57
Miloszcan I get my LP account renamed?13:58
Miloszmy PPA is named after my email address already13:58
Persiwell I press continue, then it asks me whether I want to subscribe to a "similar" bug, which is almost identical, so I thought it is a way to refine the report, isn`t it?13:58
Miloszthe only thing that isn't is my LP account name, and I'd just like to get it renamed, if possible13:58
Persior the report is filed when I press continue or even before reaching the LP?13:59
geserPersi: if a bug to your problem exist it's better if you subscribe to it (if you want to get notified about updates to the bug) instead of filing a new one14:00
geseryou can also add comments to existing bugs (if it helps to resolve the bug) if you want (you don't need to be subscribed to the bug for it)14:01
geserfor "common" problems it's not uncommon that someone else was faster with filing a bug14:02
PersiI see, but it probably doesn`t make sense to report for example crashing firefox due to same reasons as already reported, just in marginally different situation, as a separate report, ain`t it? So I imagine that before I reporter sends me to LP the bug is already counted somewhere and at LP I may subscribe to it only if I wish. Or is the number of reporters of the same bug actually important for anything?14:06
Persiwow I should be more concise14:06
MiloszWell I'd personally say 1 report of an installation of ten thousands could be randomflux14:23
Miloszso yes the number is probably important but I don't know whether it's important for the LP application14:23
LarstiQMilosz: shouldn't you be able to change your account name yourself?14:43
MiloszLarstiQ, well my PPA is still called "PPA for deadchip"14:44
MiloszI'd just like this to be either my real name (PPA for Milosz Derezynski) or14:44
Miloszor the actual name of my PPA, "internalerror" (it's ~internalerror/ppa/ubuntu)14:44
MiloszI just think "PPA for deadchip" could be confusing for first-time visitors of my LP page14:45
Miloszthey might think it's an app or somethig14:45
Miloszsomething*14:46
Miloszor first-time users of LP or PPAs14:46
LarstiQMilosz: so change it then :)14:46
MiloszI can't14:46
Miloszoh14:46
Miloszyeah I can't14:46
MiloszI can only change the description14:47
Miloszis there anyone I could mail so this gets changed?14:47
LarstiQDisplayname?14:47
LarstiQMilosz: https://edge.launchpad.net/~internalerror/+archive/ppa/+edit14:47
Miloszi set my display name to my realname14:48
Miloszbut it still says "PPA for deadchip"14:48
Miloszah14:48
Miloszedge is the beta interface?14:48
LarstiQyeah14:48
* LarstiQ disables redirection14:48
Miloszcool thanks :)14:49
LarstiQwhat, no? :)14:49
LarstiQI'm just a user14:49
LarstiQI'm disabling redirection for myself to check if the non-beta ui is different14:49
Miloszno thanks for pointing me to edge14:49
Miloszno, thanks*14:49
LarstiQah ok :)14:49
Miloszyeah in the non-beta you can not change the PPA name14:50
Miloszlol I guess that's not the only thing you wanted to see :P14:50
LarstiQactually, it is14:50
LarstiQMilosz: ok, so that seems to be it then14:51
MiloszYes, LarstiQ, that is it.14:51
MiloszWe will never see each other again.14:51
MiloszGoodbye.14:51
Miloszlol14:51
Miloszsorry just in a happny mood :)14:51
Milosz-n14:52
MiloszI understand if you don't join in14:52
LarstiQ:)14:52
* LarstiQ is on a veeery slow link and preoccupied14:52
Milosz:P14:53
LarstiQI get the humor though :P14:54
Milosz:)14:54
klbateQuick question: Is there a command line tool for sending merge proposals?14:56
* SamB wonders why https://bugs.launchpad.net/dosemu/+bugs doesn't either mention the use of an external bug tracker or show the bugs from it ...15:00
SamBklbate: isn't that called "bzr send"? I guess it's not quite the same, though -- it sends a patch bundle ...15:01
klbateSamB: I'm not sure, I've just started using both bzr and Launchpad.15:02
LarstiQSamB: send it to merge@code.launchpad.net and it i15:02
SamBthough I saw evidence that it *used* to work for sending "merge proposals" in the form of a bug report ...15:02
LarstiQSamB, klbate: http://theironlion.net/blog/2009/01/15/launchpad-code-reviews-without-browser/15:02
klbateI'd like something that has exactly the same effect as a merge proposal submitted via the web. I suppose I could do something with wget, but if there's something else that works already...15:02
klbateLarstiQ: Thanks.15:02
SamBpersonally, I don't like the way merge proposals don't keep track of what commit you wanted merged15:03
SamBso if I make a merge proposal and then the thing I proposed to be merged gets merged some other way, the merge proposal sticks around15:03
LarstiQwithout really knowing that part of launchpad, I'd say that is because you propsoe a branch for merging, not a revision15:04
LarstiQSamB: really?15:04
SamByeah, that's the bit I don't like15:04
SamBthe fact that it's a branch, not a revision, that you propose ;-)15:04
intellec`SamB: that's pretty standard workflow for projects using dvcs15:04
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intellectronicaSamB: when branching is so easy, you just create a new branch for every bit of work15:05
LarstiQSamB: review feedback would be rather cumbersome otherwise15:05
LarstiQSamB: but it sticking around forever doesn't sound right either15:06
intellectronicawhy not? it's sometimes useful for archaeology15:07
exarkunyea, keep it forever.15:08
intellectronicaklbate: you can use the rest api (i think)15:09
SamBpersonally I have trouble sticking with branch topics :-(15:10
intellectronicaSamB: there's nothing stopping you from developing in a single branch, then creating a new branch when you want to submit it. bzr makes it so easy and fast15:11
SamBit should stick around forever, but it should look more finished after the revision I meant is merged where I wanted it ;-)15:11
SamBintellectronica: yeah ...15:11
intellectronicaSamB: i think that's a good idea. file a bug15:12
LarstiQintellectronica: right, I meant ala Bunly Buggy merged status so that is out of my face for things to review15:17
intellectronicaLarstiQ: ah, you mean on +activereviews?15:18
intellectronicayou can get it out of there by reviewing it and marking it as "abstain", but i agree that it shouldn't be there once it's merged15:19
jdubhi all; trying to copy a new upstream package from hardy to jaunty in my ppa, and it's saying "same version already has published binaries..."15:19
jdubi've deleted the older (both upstream and ppa version) source packages... and it's still doing it15:20
LarstiQjdub: are you copying a binary or source?15:21
jdubsource15:22
jdub(https://launchpad.net/~jdub/+archive/ppa btw)15:22
LarstiQjdub: what I've picked up from lurking (and guessing about underlying structure) is that sources are already in the same pool15:24
LarstiQjdub: so that won't work, but you can copy the binary15:24
* LarstiQ looks for a faq15:24
jdubyeah, i read the launchpad help doco about it... didn't seem clear15:25
jdub"copy existing binaries" doesn't really sound like "rebuild the current sources for this series"15:25
LarstiQindeed15:26
jdubbut "rebuild the copied sources" sounds almost right... aside from the single pool context15:26
jdubi thought i was missing a changelog hack, but other ppas don't seem to do anything weird with it15:26
jdubguess i'll try the binary option and see how spectacularly it breaks :D15:27
jdubzomg, that totally looks like it's done the wrong thing15:28
jdubalrighty... i'm just going to focus on hardy for now; will figure this out later :-)15:41
jdubthanks15:41
hyperairhmm one team/person can own more than one PPA now?15:45
maxbyes15:58
maxbIs there a Soyuz person around who can explain what this uploadlog means?: 2009-01-10 04:10:23 WARNING Unable to grok section 'dev', overriding it with misc15:58
CarlFKmaxb: no clue what soyuz is, but maybe in control,  Section: devel16:00
CarlFKI want to package https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdf417encode/ - it needs to be cleaned up, like not including binaries in the source .tar and Makefile needs an install:16:13
CarlFKnone of the authors have posted anything sense  Sep 200616:14
CarlFKshould I make a bunch of patches, or hijack the project?16:17
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maxbCarlFK: You want to be on #ubuntu-motu for that sort of thing16:29
CarlFKmaxb: oh yeah... and ask there.. :)16:44
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savvasis it possible to upload a karmic debian source now? or when will it be, when it is announced to be openfor development?18:01
Miloszcan I see download statistics for my PPA?18:04
hyperairsavvas: in #ubuntu-motu, not here, and it'll only open after jaunty's release18:04
savvashyperair: I meant for a PPA - but ok, thanks :)18:05
hyperairoh that18:07
hyperairhahah whoops18:07
jpdssavvas: Probably after releases and new toolchain uploaded.18:16
savvasalrighty :)18:17
hyperairwhat's in a toolchain anyway?18:48
LarstiQhyperair: compiler/linker/libc/etc18:50
hyperairLarstiQ: basically a new set of build-essentials and devscripts?18:50
LarstiQhyperair: something like that18:51
* LarstiQ doesn't know the specifics for Ubuntu18:51
hyperairhmm18:51
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natureshadowhi!20:33
natureshadowA few hours ago, I successfully updated and committed a bzr branch in launchpad20:33
natureshadowNow it refuses my public key20:33
natureshadowWhy's that?20:33
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natureshadowAny idea concerning my ssh problem?21:07
SamBnatureshadow: did you accidentally change your key?21:10
natureshadowSamB: Nope .... the data in Launchpad and my local system are identical21:11
natureshadowPerhaps I should just create a new one and try again?21:11
natureshadowI just regenerated my key, uplaoded it, and it still doesn't let me in21:19
natureshadowI'm not very suse whether bzr uses my key21:19
natureshadowIt doesn't sue the standard name so I configured it in ~/.ssh/config21:20
natureshadowThis worked until 4 hours ago though ^^21:20
natureshadowRunning ssh on bazaar.launchpad.net lets me in, but (of course) complains about missing shells on the server21:21
natureshadowSo the problem must be with the ssh configuration21:21
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natureshadowWorks again .... obviously ssh wasn't happy with the config anymore :/21:29
neal_s_Should I bother getting undeserved Karma removed? I've been mucking around with bzr as a newb, and I've been deleting and creating branches willy nilly.23:44

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