| superm1 | in theory | 00:05 |
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| squidly | if the mythbuntu website down? | 00:42 |
| superm1 | yeah it is | 00:42 |
| superm1 | are you looking to get the beta? | 00:42 |
| squidly | actually I was having issues wiht the cd i downloaded | 00:43 |
| squidly | and I wanted to check and make sure I got the right one | 00:43 |
| squidly | or would it be possible to install from a xubuntu install disk? | 00:43 |
| superm1 | did you get an 8.10 or 9.04 disk? | 00:43 |
| squidly | 8.10 | 00:43 |
| superm1 | ah | 00:43 |
| squidly | the disk keeps givin errors | 00:43 |
| superm1 | well you can grab it again from one of the mirrors that is still up (cdimages.mythbuntu.org) | 00:43 |
| squidly | what is the diff between desktop and desktop-proper? | 00:45 |
| superm1 | desktop was probably a bad upload | 00:46 |
| superm1 | desktop-proper is the proper | 00:46 |
| squidly | that is what I thought | 00:46 |
| squidly | thanks :D | 00:46 |
| squidly | i dled the alt-install before. propbibaly a bad idea | 00:48 |
| superm1 | alt doesnt work well | 00:49 |
| superm1 | we're only supporting desktop for 9.04 | 00:49 |
| squidly | I guessed as much | 00:50 |
| squidly | does desktop support autologin for a frontend? | 00:51 |
| superm1 | ya | 00:51 |
| squidly | rock on | 00:51 |
| squidly | that is what I need :D | 00:51 |
| tazsta | howdy all ive installed the 9.04 beta and everything im using it for works great, except the live tv is a bit slow eg. low framerate. sound is fine. its a nvidia geforce 7300 LE card. any ideas? | 00:53 |
| superm1 | tazsta, are you on the closed source drivers? | 00:53 |
| superm1 | i'd guess so as the open source are likely causing segfaults due to a mesa bug for a lot f people | 00:54 |
| tazsta | when i was doing the setup i used the nvidia drivers with s-video output | 00:55 |
| superm1 | okay, and it's working correctly for that right? | 00:58 |
| superm1 | if so, then you see if the problem is only happening with live tv? see if recorded tv shows do it too | 00:59 |
| squidly | superm1: thanks that is working a lot better | 01:09 |
| superm1 | squidly, cool | 01:10 |
| pist0l-fish | are the ISOs at http://cdimages.mythbuntu.org/ liveCDs? | 01:11 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish,some of them are | 01:12 |
| superm1 | anything that is "desktop" is a live disk | 01:12 |
| squidly | pist0l-fish: the desktop-proper can be, depending if you say it as a live cd | 01:12 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: I installed mythbuntu via wubi and now I have an "install mythbuntu" icon on my desktop :) | 01:12 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, you installed a wubi 9.04? | 01:12 |
| superm1 | i've been wondering if that's working yet.... | 01:13 |
| superm1 | been meaning to test it | 01:13 |
| pist0l-fish | no, I got 8.10 after realizing that wubi 9.04 was being worked on | 01:13 |
| pist0l-fish | so the ones marked "proper" are live cds? | 01:13 |
| superm1 | yeah | 01:13 |
| superm1 | that's surprising that 8.10 wubi didn't work. it should have been working | 01:13 |
| superm1 | but if you want to test 9.04 wubi, that'd be awesome.... | 01:14 |
| pist0l-fish | I couldn't find a 9.04 release on sourceforge, I imagine they have it on their svn/git or something? | 01:14 |
| superm1 | oh.. | 01:15 |
| superm1 | it comes on the ISO's for 9.04 | 01:16 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: can't seem to find it | 01:16 |
| superm1 | or there should be a wubi.exe on cdimages.ubuntu.com i think | 01:16 |
| pist0l-fish | can't seem to find one | 01:16 |
| superm1 | http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/wubi/jaunty/wubi-r120.exe | 01:16 |
| superm1 | i'm not sure if the ISO grabbing even works | 01:16 |
| superm1 | it'd be lovely if it did | 01:17 |
| superm1 | but if not, you can put the 9.04 iso in the same directory as wubi.exe and it should be able to use it | 01:17 |
| pist0l-fish | ISO grabbing? as in wubi's fetching feature? | 01:17 |
| superm1 | yeah | 01:17 |
| pist0l-fish | I don't think it would anyways because the mythbuntu server is down | 01:17 |
| pist0l-fish | are you on the dev team? | 01:17 |
| superm1 | yeah | 01:17 |
| pist0l-fish | thought so | 01:17 |
| superm1 | well it would grab the iso from cdimages.ubuntu.com actually | 01:18 |
| superm1 | so it's okay if the mythbuntu.org server is down | 01:18 |
| pist0l-fish | this is the release I am testing: http://cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-9.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso | 01:18 |
| pist0l-fish | all good? | 01:18 |
| superm1 | it'd be better if you can grab a daily tbh | 01:18 |
| superm1 | from cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu | 01:18 |
| superm1 | so much has changed since beta :) | 01:19 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: I wonder how I got that live cd >_< | 01:19 |
| pist0l-fish | it's not even remotely proximal to the directory with the daily | 01:20 |
| tazsta | superm1: sorry for the delay, yes recorded programs playback fine | 01:39 |
| superm1 | tazsta, then i would turn down the program guide overlay settings | 01:40 |
| superm1 | it's probably too CPU intensive | 01:40 |
| tazsta | superm1: ok, where would i find those settings? | 01:41 |
| tazsta | superm1: found it, just trying it now ;) | 01:45 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: do I have to give the ISO a certain name? or does wubi just inspect all *.iso files in the directory? | 01:51 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: lol, hardcore fail, wubi. I put it in the same directory, and it started downloading an AMD ISO off the internet for my Intel Centrino Duo. That's bug #1 | 01:54 |
| pist0l-fish | I'm going to disconnect, see what happens | 01:54 |
| Zinn | Bug 1 in clubdistro "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 01:54 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: got to step 6; the next/previous buttons remained inactive regardless of what was selected | 02:01 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, what's step 6? | 02:10 |
| superm1 | is that the partitioning step? | 02:11 |
| superm1 | er no step 6 is install type isn't it | 02:12 |
| superm1 | how did you get into the install that it was hung? was that with wubi? | 02:13 |
| pist0l-fish | not sure what you're asking | 02:16 |
| Tazsta | superm1: fixed the problem, had to set my screen res down abit and also set the cpu settings in playback to normal instead of CPU++ | 02:16 |
| superm1 | Tazsta, awesome :) | 02:16 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, how did you start the installer? | 02:16 |
| Tazsta | superm1: thanks heaps for ur help | 02:16 |
| pist0l-fish | i installed the ISO using wubi, booted Mythbuntu 9.04 and Mythbuntu began the install procedure | 02:16 |
| superm1 | ah using wubi.. | 02:17 |
| superm1 | so it's possible the wubi preseed was broken | 02:17 |
| superm1 | give me a sec | 02:17 |
| superm1 | in the meanwhile, can you reboot into windows again? | 02:17 |
| superm1 | i might be able to give you a fixed file right now | 02:17 |
| pist0l-fish | I'm on windiz right now | 02:18 |
| superm1 | okay cool, can you see if C:\wubi has a preseed file? | 02:18 |
| pist0l-fish | I uninstalled it thinking that I would be doing this again >_<. Regardless of which, I don't think a C:\wubi was created, C:\ubuntu and C:\ubuntu-backup were. I may be wrong about that though | 02:19 |
| superm1 | yeah that's probably what i meant | 02:19 |
| superm1 | in there you should find something that's got preseed in the file name | 02:19 |
| pist0l-fish | yeah... about 'in there' | 02:19 |
| superm1 | if you remove "ubiquity mythbuntu/install_type string Frontend", from there i believe it should let you proceed | 02:19 |
| pist0l-fish | it's kind of gone, 'in there' | 02:20 |
| pist0l-fish | i imagine the hard drive's still got it on there somewhere, but the inodes are definitely gone. | 02:20 |
| superm1 | well can you run it once more then and before the reboot make that change? | 02:20 |
| pist0l-fish | haha, sure, I guess | 02:20 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: will you still be here in half an hour? | 02:22 |
| superm1 | yeah i should | 02:22 |
| superm1 | hm interesting, when i tried to emulate that preseed (as best as possible w/o a true wubi), i made it to step 7, but i was able to go forward | 02:25 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: should I try again without changing the preseed for testing purposes | 02:31 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, na, if you know its gonna fail, there isn't much reason to | 02:31 |
| pist0l-fish | kk | 02:32 |
| superm1 | just comment that line out (put a hash in front) | 02:32 |
| pist0l-fish | how big is the mythbuntu team? | 02:34 |
| superm1 | it fluctuates, there's usually about 4-6 of us active at any given time | 02:34 |
| superm1 | but several people that come around and help with docs or artwork or bugs here and there | 02:35 |
| pist0l-fish | are you lead? | 02:35 |
| superm1 | yup | 02:35 |
| superm1 | and i've done all the installer development, so i'm quite familiar with a lot of the installation code that we've added to ubiquity | 02:36 |
| yellowking | Thanks for the effort, superm1 | 02:36 |
| superm1 | np yellowking, it's still fun :) | 02:36 |
| squidly | how can I tell the difference between an VDF and an IR Display? | 02:36 |
| squidly | i mean lcd display? | 02:36 |
| tritium | squidly: Antec Fusion case? | 02:37 |
| squidly | tritium: yea | 02:37 |
| squidly | black | 02:37 |
| tritium | lspci is the best method | 02:37 |
| squidly | tritium: what am I looking for in lspci | 02:37 |
| tritium | sorry, lsusb | 02:38 |
| squidly | Bus 001 Device 005: ID 15c2:0038 SoundGraph Inc. | 02:38 |
| tritium | http://mythtvblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/getting-imon-0038-lcd-working-with-lirc.html | 02:38 |
| squidly | ty | 02:39 |
| squidly | i had the link before.. | 02:39 |
| squidly | daugher closed out firefox for me :( | 02:39 |
| tritium | Note that there are two types of displays: VFD and LCD. I believe they both have IR receivers. | 02:39 |
| squidly | yea they both have ir | 02:40 |
| squidly | how can I tell if I have a VFD or a LCD? | 02:40 |
| tritium | squidly: just pointing it out, given your original question | 02:40 |
| tritium | You have an LCD, based on the ID. | 02:41 |
| squidly | tritium: ok thanks | 02:41 |
| tritium | No problem. | 02:41 |
| * squidly is getting my frist MCPC setup | 02:41 | |
| squidly | finally got the go from my fiancee to build one (actually I just go it and said I'm doing it) | 02:41 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, oh you know what!, i think i know what the problem is | 02:49 |
| superm1 | wubi isn't grabbing the preseed for mythbuntu | 02:50 |
| superm1 | its using the ubuntu preseed | 02:50 |
| squidly | tritium: the links to ronfrazier.net doent work on the page :( | 02:50 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: glad you got it | 02:50 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, http://pastebin.com/f626f9aca replace it with that, and put your user name and password that you want into that | 02:50 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: who is in charge of wubi though? | 02:50 |
| superm1 | ago (aka xivulon) | 02:51 |
| superm1 | i'll look through his code and see if it's obvious how to fix, but i'm not sure it will be | 02:51 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: I am assuming I would replace $(username) with pist0l-fish, correct? | 02:52 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, with whatever you want your mythbuntu login name to be | 02:53 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: okay, just confused about the syntax. is $(...) a variable? | 02:53 |
| pist0l-fish | preseeds are bash-esque? | 02:54 |
| superm1 | in some ways | 02:54 |
| pist0l-fish | i should look into this, I do not know as much as I would like to about *nixes | 02:55 |
| superm1 | well the code behind all this is stacked and gets more and more advanced | 02:55 |
| superm1 | so i might recommend starting in some easier areas :) | 02:55 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: any specific suggestions? | 03:00 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, well what's your background? it's best to start looking at stuff pertinent to your background or interests | 03:00 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, i just realized there is another section you need to grab from the existing preseed | 03:02 |
| superm1 | you need to fill in the $(partitioning) part with the stuff that was in the partitioning section in the old one | 03:02 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: been coding for 8 years, studying computing science. Know a variety of stuff, just never worked on a nix at a low-level, it so happens to be | 03:02 |
| superm1 | i've filed bug 359834 for ago to get the right preseed picked in the future | 03:03 |
| Zinn | Bug 359834 in wubi "Wubi r120 does not use mythbuntu.preseed on mythbuntu installs" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/359834 | 03:03 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, okay so you might be able to help get your hands dirty with bugs then | 03:03 |
| superm1 | what's your favorite lang to work with? | 03:05 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: i like C(++) | 03:05 |
| pist0l-fish | I guess if I had to pick, C++ | 03:05 |
| superm1 | pist0l-fish, cool. so maybe helping out with little mythtv annoyances and bugs would be a great area that needs some loving | 03:05 |
| superm1 | we have been trying to write all the nice addons and what not for mythbuntu in python | 03:05 |
| superm1 | that's been my lang of choice to work with since starting the project | 03:05 |
| superm1 | so the installer, mcc, the log grabber, the lirc parser, the autostart application - all python | 03:05 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: i knew python at one point. I would just have to refamiliarize myself with the syntax | 03:06 |
| pist0l-fish | superm1: but I would be down to lend a hand, I have 2 weeks of summer coming up that I will be spending working on a personal project and lazing around | 03:07 |
| superm1 | yeah it's a really easy language to pick up. i know C, but i love how easy development is in python. the lack of compiling makes it so much easier to work with | 03:07 |
| superm1 | cool :) | 03:07 |
| pist0l-fish | ...and parsing makes it kinda slow too. But this is coming from someone whose main desktop (i am putting mythtv on the family computer at the moment) is archaic | 03:08 |
| superm1 | yeah i think on most modern boxes, the tradeoff is negligible for what we do with it | 03:09 |
| pist0l-fish | where was in the C:\ubuntu directory? | 03:10 |
| superm1 | <shrug> in my wubi simulation environment i'm still seeing problems after fixing the preseed, so you know i'd say this likely still wont work | 03:11 |
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