[00:05] in theory [00:42] if the mythbuntu website down? [00:42] yeah it is [00:42] are you looking to get the beta? [00:43] actually I was having issues wiht the cd i downloaded [00:43] and I wanted to check and make sure I got the right one [00:43] or would it be possible to install from a xubuntu install disk? [00:43] did you get an 8.10 or 9.04 disk? [00:43] 8.10 [00:43] ah [00:43] the disk keeps givin errors [00:43] well you can grab it again from one of the mirrors that is still up (cdimages.mythbuntu.org) [00:45] what is the diff between desktop and desktop-proper? [00:46] desktop was probably a bad upload [00:46] desktop-proper is the proper [00:46] that is what I thought [00:46] thanks :D [00:48] i dled the alt-install before. propbibaly a bad idea [00:49] alt doesnt work well [00:49] we're only supporting desktop for 9.04 [00:50] I guessed as much [00:51] does desktop support autologin for a frontend? [00:51] ya [00:51] rock on [00:51] that is what I need :D [00:53] howdy all ive installed the 9.04 beta and everything im using it for works great, except the live tv is a bit slow eg. low framerate. sound is fine. its a nvidia geforce 7300 LE card. any ideas? [00:53] tazsta, are you on the closed source drivers? [00:54] i'd guess so as the open source are likely causing segfaults due to a mesa bug for a lot f people [00:55] when i was doing the setup i used the nvidia drivers with s-video output [00:58] okay, and it's working correctly for that right? [00:59] if so, then you see if the problem is only happening with live tv? see if recorded tv shows do it too [01:09] superm1: thanks that is working a lot better [01:10] squidly, cool [01:11] are the ISOs at http://cdimages.mythbuntu.org/ liveCDs? [01:12] pist0l-fish,some of them are [01:12] anything that is "desktop" is a live disk [01:12] pist0l-fish: the desktop-proper can be, depending if you say it as a live cd [01:12] superm1: I installed mythbuntu via wubi and now I have an "install mythbuntu" icon on my desktop :) [01:12] pist0l-fish, you installed a wubi 9.04? [01:13] i've been wondering if that's working yet.... [01:13] been meaning to test it [01:13] no, I got 8.10 after realizing that wubi 9.04 was being worked on [01:13] so the ones marked "proper" are live cds? [01:13] yeah [01:13] that's surprising that 8.10 wubi didn't work. it should have been working [01:14] but if you want to test 9.04 wubi, that'd be awesome.... [01:14] I couldn't find a 9.04 release on sourceforge, I imagine they have it on their svn/git or something? [01:15] oh.. [01:16] it comes on the ISO's for 9.04 [01:16] superm1: can't seem to find it [01:16] or there should be a wubi.exe on cdimages.ubuntu.com i think [01:16] can't seem to find one [01:16] http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/wubi/jaunty/wubi-r120.exe [01:16] i'm not sure if the ISO grabbing even works [01:17] it'd be lovely if it did [01:17] but if not, you can put the 9.04 iso in the same directory as wubi.exe and it should be able to use it [01:17] ISO grabbing? as in wubi's fetching feature? [01:17] yeah [01:17] I don't think it would anyways because the mythbuntu server is down [01:17] are you on the dev team? [01:17] yeah [01:17] thought so [01:18] well it would grab the iso from cdimages.ubuntu.com actually [01:18] so it's okay if the mythbuntu.org server is down [01:18] this is the release I am testing: http://cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-9.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso [01:18] all good? [01:18] it'd be better if you can grab a daily tbh [01:18] from cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu [01:19] so much has changed since beta :) [01:19] superm1: I wonder how I got that live cd >_< [01:20] it's not even remotely proximal to the directory with the daily [01:39] superm1: sorry for the delay, yes recorded programs playback fine [01:40] tazsta, then i would turn down the program guide overlay settings [01:40] it's probably too CPU intensive [01:41] superm1: ok, where would i find those settings? [01:45] superm1: found it, just trying it now ;) [01:51] superm1: do I have to give the ISO a certain name? or does wubi just inspect all *.iso files in the directory? [01:54] superm1: lol, hardcore fail, wubi. I put it in the same directory, and it started downloading an AMD ISO off the internet for my Intel Centrino Duo. That's bug #1 [01:54] I'm going to disconnect, see what happens [01:54] Bug 1 in clubdistro "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/1 [02:01] superm1: got to step 6; the next/previous buttons remained inactive regardless of what was selected [02:10] pist0l-fish, what's step 6? [02:11] is that the partitioning step? [02:12] er no step 6 is install type isn't it [02:13] how did you get into the install that it was hung? was that with wubi? [02:16] not sure what you're asking [02:16] superm1: fixed the problem, had to set my screen res down abit and also set the cpu settings in playback to normal instead of CPU++ [02:16] Tazsta, awesome :) [02:16] pist0l-fish, how did you start the installer? [02:16] superm1: thanks heaps for ur help [02:16] i installed the ISO using wubi, booted Mythbuntu 9.04 and Mythbuntu began the install procedure [02:17] ah using wubi.. [02:17] so it's possible the wubi preseed was broken [02:17] give me a sec [02:17] in the meanwhile, can you reboot into windows again? [02:17] i might be able to give you a fixed file right now [02:18] I'm on windiz right now [02:18] okay cool, can you see if C:\wubi has a preseed file? [02:19] I uninstalled it thinking that I would be doing this again >_<. Regardless of which, I don't think a C:\wubi was created, C:\ubuntu and C:\ubuntu-backup were. I may be wrong about that though [02:19] yeah that's probably what i meant [02:19] in there you should find something that's got preseed in the file name [02:19] yeah... about 'in there' [02:19] if you remove "ubiquity mythbuntu/install_type string Frontend", from there i believe it should let you proceed [02:20] it's kind of gone, 'in there' [02:20] i imagine the hard drive's still got it on there somewhere, but the inodes are definitely gone. [02:20] well can you run it once more then and before the reboot make that change? [02:20] haha, sure, I guess [02:22] superm1: will you still be here in half an hour? [02:22] yeah i should [02:25] hm interesting, when i tried to emulate that preseed (as best as possible w/o a true wubi), i made it to step 7, but i was able to go forward [02:31] superm1: should I try again without changing the preseed for testing purposes [02:31] pist0l-fish, na, if you know its gonna fail, there isn't much reason to [02:32] kk [02:32] just comment that line out (put a hash in front) [02:34] how big is the mythbuntu team? [02:34] it fluctuates, there's usually about 4-6 of us active at any given time [02:35] but several people that come around and help with docs or artwork or bugs here and there [02:35] are you lead? [02:35] yup [02:36] and i've done all the installer development, so i'm quite familiar with a lot of the installation code that we've added to ubiquity [02:36] Thanks for the effort, superm1 [02:36] np yellowking, it's still fun :) [02:36] how can I tell the difference between an VDF and an IR Display? [02:36] i mean lcd display? [02:37] squidly: Antec Fusion case? [02:37] tritium: yea [02:37] black [02:37] lspci is the best method [02:37] tritium: what am I looking for in lspci [02:38] sorry, lsusb [02:38] Bus 001 Device 005: ID 15c2:0038 SoundGraph Inc. [02:38] http://mythtvblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/getting-imon-0038-lcd-working-with-lirc.html [02:39] ty [02:39] i had the link before.. [02:39] daugher closed out firefox for me :( [02:39] Note that there are two types of displays: VFD and LCD. I believe they both have IR receivers. [02:40] yea they both have ir [02:40] how can I tell if I have a VFD or a LCD? [02:40] squidly: just pointing it out, given your original question [02:41] You have an LCD, based on the ID. [02:41] tritium: ok thanks [02:41] No problem. [02:41] * squidly is getting my frist MCPC setup [02:41] finally got the go from my fiancee to build one (actually I just go it and said I'm doing it) [02:49] pist0l-fish, oh you know what!, i think i know what the problem is [02:50] wubi isn't grabbing the preseed for mythbuntu [02:50] its using the ubuntu preseed [02:50] tritium: the links to ronfrazier.net doent work on the page :( [02:50] superm1: glad you got it [02:50] pist0l-fish, http://pastebin.com/f626f9aca replace it with that, and put your user name and password that you want into that [02:50] superm1: who is in charge of wubi though? [02:51] ago (aka xivulon) [02:51] i'll look through his code and see if it's obvious how to fix, but i'm not sure it will be [02:52] superm1: I am assuming I would replace $(username) with pist0l-fish, correct? [02:53] pist0l-fish, with whatever you want your mythbuntu login name to be [02:53] superm1: okay, just confused about the syntax. is $(...) a variable? [02:54] preseeds are bash-esque? [02:54] in some ways [02:55] i should look into this, I do not know as much as I would like to about *nixes [02:55] well the code behind all this is stacked and gets more and more advanced [02:55] so i might recommend starting in some easier areas :) [03:00] superm1: any specific suggestions? [03:00] pist0l-fish, well what's your background? it's best to start looking at stuff pertinent to your background or interests [03:02] pist0l-fish, i just realized there is another section you need to grab from the existing preseed [03:02] you need to fill in the $(partitioning) part with the stuff that was in the partitioning section in the old one [03:02] superm1: been coding for 8 years, studying computing science. Know a variety of stuff, just never worked on a nix at a low-level, it so happens to be [03:03] i've filed bug 359834 for ago to get the right preseed picked in the future [03:03] Bug 359834 in wubi "Wubi r120 does not use mythbuntu.preseed on mythbuntu installs" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/359834 [03:03] pist0l-fish, okay so you might be able to help get your hands dirty with bugs then [03:05] what's your favorite lang to work with? [03:05] superm1: i like C(++) [03:05] I guess if I had to pick, C++ [03:05] pist0l-fish, cool. so maybe helping out with little mythtv annoyances and bugs would be a great area that needs some loving [03:05] we have been trying to write all the nice addons and what not for mythbuntu in python [03:05] that's been my lang of choice to work with since starting the project [03:05] so the installer, mcc, the log grabber, the lirc parser, the autostart application - all python [03:06] superm1: i knew python at one point. I would just have to refamiliarize myself with the syntax [03:07] superm1: but I would be down to lend a hand, I have 2 weeks of summer coming up that I will be spending working on a personal project and lazing around [03:07] yeah it's a really easy language to pick up. i know C, but i love how easy development is in python. the lack of compiling makes it so much easier to work with [03:07] cool :) [03:08] ...and parsing makes it kinda slow too. But this is coming from someone whose main desktop (i am putting mythtv on the family computer at the moment) is archaic [03:09] yeah i think on most modern boxes, the tradeoff is negligible for what we do with it [03:10] where was in the C:\ubuntu directory? [03:11] in my wubi simulation environment i'm still seeing problems after fixing the preseed, so you know i'd say this likely still wont work