[00:00] <SiDi> Well, the bug is that xfce4-governor doesnt scale your CPU up when its obviously needed
[00:00] <SiDi> Just try to describe the problem with as many details as needed
[00:00] <SiDi> if the devs feel there is something missing, they'll ask you
[00:04] <Brad777> SiDi, k i will do that
[00:04] <SiDi> Thanks Brad777
[00:05] <SiDi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-governor-plugin/+filebug here is the link for xfce4-governor-plugin
[00:06] <SiDi> you'll need a launchpad account (you can also use an OpenID if you have one)
[00:34] <ConvictedFelon> Hello everyone! i was wondering if anybody knew how to fully change xubuntu into normal ubuntu? i uninstalled xubuntu desktop and installed ubuntu desktop, but i still dont have the system menu...?
[00:41] <SiDi> Installing ubuntu-desktop will be enough
[00:41] <SiDi> then, at login, click on the session button
[00:42] <SiDi> and choose GNOME as a session
[00:42] <SiDi> (you can also remove all the xfce packages if you need space, but well, i don't know how to get all of them)
[00:42] <SiDi> (and anyways, no sane person would remove xubuntu ! ;P)
[00:45] <SiDi> Good night everyone
[00:58] <rocko> is there something like this for gnome panel http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-fsguard-plugin
[02:03] <uberNoob> howdy folks can someone help me with nm-applet? it won't autostart in xfce 4
[02:10] <drowner> hello all
[02:11] <drowner> may i ask a general interest question?
[02:12] <drowner> please?
[02:14] <uberNoob> drowner: i don't think anyone is listening, but whatsup?
[02:15] <drowner> i use both xub and ubuntu
[02:16] <drowner> and i use rhythmbox for my music
[02:16] <drowner> i'd like to install a xfce only system, either xub or debian
[02:16] <drowner> is there a music library manager that won't fetch a bunch of gnome depencies?
[02:18] <uberNoob> um i use amarok...but you can try xmms
[02:18] <drowner> yeah, amarok will bring KDE/QT stuff with it
[02:20] <uberNoob> there's really no specific player for xfce
[02:20] <drowner> i might try exaile
[02:20] <drowner> which is GTK only, i think
[02:20] <uberNoob> u can try xfmedia
[02:21] <uberNoob> its gtk only as well
[02:21] <uberNoob> one sec
[02:21] <uberNoob> yeah its based on xine as http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/xfmedia
[02:22] <drowner> good, thanks very much
[02:22] <rocko> is there something like this for gnome panel http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-fsguard-plugin
[02:22] <drowner> i used to have amarok, but then i got rid of it, cause it annoyed me having a pile of depencies that i didn't need / want for anything else
[02:23] <uberNoob> rocko: u can use conky if you want
[02:24] <rocko> no conky
[02:24] <uberNoob> u running debian or an ubuntu version
[02:24] <rocko> is there a gui thing to config conky ?
[02:24] <rocko> I do not want to read docs to get the conky thing to work
[02:25] <rocko> also it does not display it the way i want
[02:25] <uberNoob> rocko: np ... check here: http://projects.gnome.org/
[02:26] <drowner> rocko: there is a gui for conky, but you still need to do a bit of typing
[02:26] <rocko> I have found almost all the replacements for xfce plugins I use for gnome panel except for that plugin
[02:27] <BigMoopies> Is there a special made Xubuntu (XFCE) DVD/CD burning program ?
[02:27] <rocko> yes BigMoopies
[02:27] <BigMoopies> rocko, what would that be ?
[02:27] <rocko> BigMoopies xfburn
[02:27] <rocko> I use k3b though
[02:28] <rocko> but it would be bloated for slow computers though
[02:28] <BigMoopies> I use Brasero so far.
[02:28] <BigMoopies> is xfburn GUI ?
[02:28] <rocko> yes
[02:28] <BigMoopies> it's only a few KBs
[02:29] <rocko> don't underestimate software by its size
[02:29] <BigMoopies> rocko, This looks like only CD burning software?
[02:29] <BigMoopies> "Another cd burning tool"
[02:29] <BigMoopies> yeah, everything is saying "CD"
[02:30] <BigMoopies> There aint a DVD/CD combo ?
[02:30] <rocko> um try it
[02:30] <rocko> it meant work
[02:30] <rocko> there is also another program you should try
[02:31] <rocko> burniso
[02:31] <BigMoopies> ehh, I'll just use Brasawhatever
[02:31] <BigMoopies> The new version looks like it does DVD
[02:31] <rocko> and this other one I forget its name but it is a puppy linux cd/dvd burner program that is just a script really
[02:31] <BigMoopies> http://www.xfce.org/projects/xfburn/
[02:31] <uberNoob> brasero works fine...will check sums too
[02:32] <rocko> brasero does do some of things I want
[02:32] <BigMoopies> uberNoob, Yeah.   Maybe I can find a newer version of xfburn not in the repos to do DVDs?
[02:32] <BigMoopies> Or maybe in Jaunty
[02:32] <rocko> like it doesn't detect the speeds right for my cd/dvd drive
[02:32] <rocko> so i use k3b instead
[02:32] <uberNoob> what's wrong with brasero?
[02:33] <BigMoopies> Nothing I don't guess.. I was just wanting to use XFCE only stuff
[02:33] <rocko> BigMoopies just compile it
[02:33] <uberNoob> u should know a lot of xfce projects are beta
[02:33] <rocko> "sudo apt-get build-dep xfburn"
[02:33] <rocko> then download the source for the current stable version of xfburn and do what it says to compile it
[02:34] <BigMoopies> errr yeah, I'll just keep Brawhatever
[02:34] <uberNoob> lol
[02:34] <BigMoopies> But I'll try K3B
[02:35] <rocko> uberNoob how do you get brasero to detect my speeds correctly for my cd/dvd drive
[02:35] <uberNoob> rocko know where the autostart apps is?
[02:35] <rocko> I do not want to use max speeds
[02:35] <rocko> yes I know where that is ub
[02:36] <rocko> that is services and sessions
[02:36] <rocko> why do  you ask uberNoob ?
[02:37] <uberNoob> er trying to autostart nm-applet, which btw has disspaeared
[02:37] <rocko> system/ preferences/ sessions | system/ administration/services in gnome forgot what that is in xfce
[02:37] <rocko> gnome is not that slow if you tweak it a bit so that it does not use to many resources
[02:38] <uberNoob> found it: xfce4-autostart-edito
[02:42] <BigMoopies> K3b looks a little cooler than brawhatever
[02:42] <uberNoob> it is friendlier actually
[02:42] <BigMoopies> Looks more like Nero
[02:45] <rocko> drowner what is this gui you speak of for conky ?
[02:45] <drowner> erm
[02:45] <drowner> i dont use it
[02:45] <drowner> i think its called 'Conky GUI'
[02:45] <drowner> ha!
[02:47] <uberNoob> conky is simple to set up...no biggie
[02:48] <rocko> no it isn't
[02:48] <rocko> conky is hard
[02:48] <rocko> you have to use text editor
[02:49] <uberNoob> seriously? and you're a linux user?
[02:49] <rocko> yes
[02:49] <rocko> I use command line regularly
[02:49] <uberNoob> dude, you play with terminal all day doing all sorts of configs
[02:49] <uberNoob> exactly
[02:49] <uberNoob> so maybe 20 - 50 lines of commands that's all it takes
[02:49] <rocko> who said i playied with configs
[02:50] <uberNoob> tweak is the word i meant
[02:50] <rocko> yes I do tweak config files
[02:50] <uberNoob> the same goes for conky
[02:50] <rocko> but conky I want to do a lot to it
[02:50] <rocko> and it doesn't work
[02:51] <rocko> and it takes to long to get where I want it
[02:51] <uberNoob> hang on let me get you mine
[02:51] <rocko> I want it to display gigs for available memory like 2.4 gb or what ever
[02:51] <rocko> instead of the normal crap it does
[02:52] <rocko> pastebin please
[02:53] <uberNoob> here: http://pastebin.com/m183b27b3
[02:55] <uberNoob> so u know u can have multiple instances of conky running.
[02:55] <rocko> yes I know that
[02:55] <rocko> uberNoob can you repost that at pastebin.ca please
[02:56] <uberNoob> repost what?
[02:56] <rocko> pastebin.ca allows for raw
[02:56] <rocko> at the other pastebin you just posted uberNoob
[02:56] <rocko> please use pastebin.ca
[02:56] <rocko> pastebin.com will leave all those stupid numbers
[02:57] <rocko> when I copy and paste
[02:57] <uberNoob> http://pastebin.ca/1389348
[02:57] <rocko> or nevermind I forgot about the bottom part
[02:58] <rocko> http://pastebin.ca/raw/1389348
[02:58] <uberNoob> eh np
[03:02] <uberNoob> rocko: notice that the spacing is important thereby you have the align attribute