[14:43] <Riddell> hhhhhhhhhhhh
[14:43] <Riddell> ~z
[15:16] <jefferai> apachelogger: poke
[15:20] <Tonio_> Riddell: true that qtcurve releases very often.... but I prefer this to an unmaintain component like gtk-qt ;)
[15:20] <Riddell> Tonio_: jcastro was saying you haven't replied about UDS
[15:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: hu ? I did to claire, has suggested
[15:21] <Tonio_> he wasn't in copy
[15:21] <Riddell> check with him then
[15:21] <Tonio_> should I forward maybe ?
[15:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: kk
[15:24] <Tonio_> Riddell: when did he say you that ?
[15:24] <Tonio_> I think I responded on 04/11.... a bit late though... I needed confirmation from my company that I'll be available since I announced I wanted to leave...
[15:25] <davmor2> Riddell: kubuntu alternates are up for testing
[15:39] <Riddell> davmor2: can you try a non english install?
[15:40] <davmor2> I'm doing upgrades
[15:40] <Riddell> ok
[15:40] <davmor2> have a word with jtholmes :)
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> ooh
[15:43]  * JontheEchidna has got to try this out
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> ☻/
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> /▌
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> / \
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> ^_^
[15:45] <claydoh> JontheEchidna: heh nice
[15:45] <claydoh> saturday night fever dance?
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> eh, I thought it was just someone waving hi
[15:47]  * claydoh has dancing on the brain
[15:48]  * claydoh is happy-dancing due to new Red Dwarf episodes, and is a little giddy,
[15:48] <claydoh> and OT
[15:51] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: is this a script?
[15:51] <Riddell> claydoh: going to watch that later
[15:51] <JontheEchidna> Mamarok: nah, just saw someone post that on Digg
[15:52] <claydoh> Riddell: I have all the seasons, on vhs tape lol
[16:27] <davmor2> Riddell: what am I looking for in the foreign install
[16:28] <Riddell> davmor2: if text strings are translated, notably File Edit Quit etc
[16:29] <davmor2> Riddell: I have a cunning plan
[16:30] <Quintasan> oh my, meeting's today
[16:33] <davmor2> Riddell: I've asked ara if she can do it.  She said she can but not till tomorrow
[16:37] <slangasek> davmor2: fairly important to get this tested sooner rather than later, since we don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes for this translations bug and it may require changes to langpacks or to other packages that feed /into/ the langpacks
[16:37] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: ping
[16:38] <davmor2> slangasek: I can look at it but I won't know if the translation is correct or not:)
[16:38] <slangasek> we're not looking to check the quality of the translation
[16:38] <slangasek> we're looking to check whether things are in English, which Should Not Be
[16:38] <davmor2> no probs I'll look at it and ara: can confirm it with correctness then hows that?
[16:42] <Riddell> it's pretty obvious when strings aren't translated
[16:43] <slangasek> the correctness really is completely irrelevant for this - wrong translations aren't getting fixed before release anyway
[16:43] <slangasek> but systemic bugs preventing translations from showing up need to get fixed
[16:45] <davmor2> slangasek: Riddell: rsyncing now
[16:45] <Quintasan> Riddell: If you have some time, please check this debdiff: http://wklej.org/id/77338/txt
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: pong
[16:51] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: I still notice wrong permission (still no +x) on pykdeuic4
[17:14] <davmor2> Riddell:  Le CD d'installation ne contient pas le support complet pour votre langue.  Voulez-vous telecharger maintenant les paquets requis depuis l'Internet?  I'm guessing this says the cd doesn't have full language support for your language.  Would you like to install the required packages from the internet?
[17:15] <davmor2> slangasek:  ^
[17:16] <slangasek> davmor2: say "oui"
[17:16] <slangasek> (though it shouldn't matter for this part)
[17:16] <davmor2> slangasek: I going to
[17:16] <slangasek> and yes, that's what it says
[17:19] <davmor2> slangasek: Yay high school french has a use after all :)
[17:20] <slangasek> so do apps look translated?
[17:21] <davmor2> 604 of 641
[17:21] <davmor2> let you know soon :)
[17:38] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: might be related to qtscriptbindings
[17:38] <davmor2> slangasek, Riddell: some things aren't copy/cut but paste=coller
[17:38] <apachelogger> anyway, uploading final build to my ppa
[17:40] <slangasek> davmor2: so you're missing translations for 'copy' and 'cut'?
[17:41] <davmor2> slangasek: there are others ->go has back forward
[17:42] <slangasek> hrm?
[17:42] <davmor2> slangasek: Usb Startup Disk Creator
[17:42] <davmor2> Terminal
[17:43] <davmor2> Hardware Drivers
[17:43] <slangasek> davmor2: I don't think that answered the question I asked?
[17:44] <davmor2> copy ans cut are correct in OOo but not in Kate
[17:44] <davmor2> if that helps
[17:48] <slangasek> davmor2: ok; so it sounds like there are some stock translations missing
[17:48] <slangasek> Riddell: ^^
[17:48] <Riddell> davmor2: got a screenshot?
[17:48] <Riddell> of the File and Edit menus in Kate say
[17:49] <davmor2> Riddell: love to how do I get the keyboard layout up so I know where :// and . is?
[17:49] <Riddell> oh you chose azerty?  that's a mistake
[17:50] <davmor2> Riddell: I choose the default option during install
[17:51] <Riddell> davmor2: in system settings click the UN flag then the keyboard icon on the left
[17:52] <Riddell> first radio button
[17:52] <Riddell> and chose a sensible layout
[17:55] <davmor2> Riddell: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/french.png
[17:55] <davmor2> that's kate open
[17:55] <davmor2> now I can swap at the drop of a hat I'll get some more
[17:56] <jussi01> !info kaffeine jaunty
[17:56] <jussi01> ahh...
[17:57] <jussi01> Tonio_: your ppa upgraded kaffeine for me?
[17:58] <davmor2> Riddell: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/french1.png
[18:00] <davmor2> Riddell: although paste was in french
[18:00] <Riddell> very strange
[18:00] <Riddell> I can't recreate that and the strings are in the language packs
[18:00] <Riddell> I'll do a fresh install and see if I can recreate it
[18:00] <Riddell> oh, do we have a meeting at some point?
[18:01] <Riddell> ..in an hour
[18:01] <davmor2> Riddell: That's doing a full french install
[18:11] <davmor2> Riddell: I got the incomplete language support bubble on the task bar hang on I'll try again after that
[18:11] <davmor2> no same
[18:16] <a|wen_> davmor2: i have a user running danish, and i get some of the same translations missing ... seems to be some of the core translations shared between all kde applications
[18:22] <Tm_T> nookie^: what is not my problem?
[18:24] <a|wen_> Riddell / slangasek: i'm seeing the same with danish: as an example the file and edit menu in kate http://imagebin.ca/view/Rl2c91.html http://imagebin.ca/view/PPPFNO.html ; red markings are definitely not translated
[18:26] <a|wen_> if you want anything tested / tried / verified ... you are more than welcome to ping me
[18:29] <JontheEchidna> a|wen_: isn't bug 360029 about the battery plasmoid?
[18:30] <a|wen_> JontheEchidna: of course ... guess i should have had my coffee before moving it around
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[18:35] <a|wen_> JontheEchidna: kdebase-workspace, right?
[18:37] <JontheEchidna> a|wen_: yes
[18:38] <a|wen_> thx ... would not risk re-assigning it wrong twice
[18:56] <davmor2> a|wen configuration is the worsed
[18:56] <davmor2> nearly all english
[18:57] <Riddell> davmor2: where's that?
[18:57] <davmor2> kate
[18:59] <davmor2> Riddell: show statusbar, configure toolbars, configure kate, show toolbar, full screen mode, configure shortcuts
[18:59] <davmor2> a|wen_: what about you?
[19:00] <davmor2> Riddell: every back and forward is listed as back  and forward too
[19:01] <Riddell> yes I see it now on a fresh install
[19:01] <Riddell> this is very strange
[19:01] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting
[19:02] <Riddell> Nightrose: ping
[19:02] <Riddell> nixternal: ping
[19:02] <Riddell> yuriy: ping
[19:02] <a|wen_> davmor2 and Riddell: configuration is indeed bad ... every option except one is in english here
[19:03] <Nightrose> pong
[19:03] <davmor2> a|wen_: nevermind hey it's a feature to teach everyone to speak english :)
[19:03] <Riddell> Nightrose: meeting?
[19:03] <a|wen_> davmor2: ahh, nice way to loog at it :P
[19:19] <davmor2> a|wen_: as you can tell which bit's aren't right in which app can I leave a bug write up to you?
[19:20] <a|wen_> davmor2: didn't we already have a bug report to add to?
[19:20] <davmor2> a|wen_:  pass I just got asked to test it so did :)
[19:21] <Riddell> bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/355814 has been hijacked for that translations issue
[19:27] <nixternal> Riddell: pong?
[19:28] <Riddell> nixternal: meeting in #u-m
[19:28] <Riddell> nixternal: we need a final vote on comm_a_nder's membership
[19:28] <Riddell> and we're currently quizzing Quintasa
[19:30] <davmor2> Riddell: I just got the incomplete language support for an English install
[19:30] <hunger> Will quanta become available in jaunty? I guess it is too late for that...
[19:30] <hunger> Maybe the old uninstallable debs could still get removed from the repos?
[19:32] <a|wen_> !info quanta jaunty
[19:33] <hunger> a|wen_: That is not installable since it depends on kfilereplace and klinkstatus, both of which conflict with the -kde4 versions which get installed by the kdewebdev package.
[19:34] <a|wen_> hunger: isn't there an replacement for quanta in the kdewebdev-kde4 source?
[19:35] <hunger> a|wen_: So there is no kde4 quanta?
[19:36] <Riddell> hi seele, we're in a meeting in #u-m quizzing mcas on membership
[19:36] <a|wen_> hunger: they have changed an awful lot of names while switching to kde4 ... so might be something similar
[19:36] <Riddell> quanta is waiting on kdevelop4
[19:37] <hunger> Riddell: Ah, that explains things.
[19:37] <seele> Riddell: yeah, couldnt help being late
[19:37] <hunger> Any chance of seeing it in jaunty or will it miss the deadline?
[19:37] <Riddell> hunger: it doesn't really exist as far as I know
[19:38] <hunger> Riddell: It is build as part of kdewebdev when I run kdesvn-build, so I always assumed it existed:-)
[19:40] <Riddell> hunger: mm ok, it's not included in the tars given to packagers, and I guess they have good reason for that
[19:45] <hunger> Riddell: Well then better leave it out:-)
[19:53]  * kb9vqf wonders if he just missed the meeting
[19:53]  * kb9vqf has been having Internet problems all day and just got his connection restored
[19:53] <claydoh> kb9vqf: not yet, still going on in #ubuntu-meeting
[19:53] <kb9vqf> OK
[20:11] <ghostcube___> hi folks :)
[20:11] <davmor2> kb9vqf: on now
[20:12] <ghostcube___> i noticed a very cool function of kde3 isnt gone into 4, the possibility to change the runlevel services like in kcontol
[20:12] <ghostcube___> is there anything planned to get this done in kde4 again
[20:12] <kb9vqf> davmor2: ??
[20:12] <davmor2> meeting
[20:13] <kb9vqf> davmor2: Yes, the meeting is over in #ubuntu-meeting
[20:14] <kb9vqf> davmor2: sorry if I'm not understanding your question :-)
[20:14] <kb9vqf> ghostcube: AFAIK most of the backend modules like that are still under heavy development upstream
[20:15]  * seele waves to e-jat
[20:16] <e-jat> thanks
[20:17] <ghostcube___> kb9vqf: hmm ok cause this is one of the missing ones which was pretty useful :)
[20:18] <a|wen_> ghostcube___: you are not looking for someting like the "service manager" under advanced settings?
[20:18] <ghostcube___> a|wen_: i seen this one but no i mean the rc controlling possibility from kcontrol :)
[20:18] <ghostcube___> #sysv-rc-conf as gui
[20:19] <tsimpson> a|wen_: service manager is for KDE services, not system services
[20:20] <ghostcube___> yep
[20:20] <ghostcube___> :)
[20:20] <JontheEchidna> btw, what's the status of konversation in 9.04? Should it be demoted to universe since we aren't including it by default anymore?
[20:20] <a|wen_> ghostcube___: okay, system services ... you need to get back to konsole for that
[20:20] <ghostcube___> a|wen_: i am hehe
[20:20] <ghostcube___> a|wen_: but only want to mention i miss this very much
[20:20] <tsimpson> there is "bum", but that's GTK
[20:21] <ghostcube___> and i think it would be cool if it come back :)
[20:21] <ghostcube___> bum ?
[20:21] <tsimpson> !bum
[20:21] <Quintasan> Riddell: debdiff is ready for semantik :3
[20:21] <tsimpson> I think it stands for Boot-Up-Manager
[20:21] <ghostcube___> ah yeah
[20:21] <Quintasan> argh
[20:21] <Riddell> kb9vqf: I don't think I have access to any machines with large amounts of bandwidth to spare
[20:22] <Riddell> might be worth asking seaLne, he sometimes does
[20:22] <kb9vqf> Riddell: thanks, will do :)
[20:22] <nixternal> dang, I had other business...but I have totally gone brain dead just now
[20:22] <a|wen_> !info sysv-rc-conf jaunty
[20:22]  * nixternal tries to remember
[20:22] <a|wen_> ghostcube___: ^^
[20:22] <kb9vqf> I got something to the tune of 11000 hits today alone
[20:22] <ghostcube___> i use sysv-rc now :)
[20:22] <davmor2> Riddell: why oh why am I getting incomplete language support on a default English install.  Is it the OOo issue from before?
[20:23] <nixternal> oh
[20:23] <Riddell> davmor2: I've no idea, does it install anything?
[20:23] <nixternal> Riddell: with Karmic we will be dealing with the new Archive layout, and with that we will need figure out how we go forward by approving people and providing commit access to the repos for *Kubuntu Only Packages*
[20:23] <a|wen_> ghostcube___: half-way GUI in any case ;) ... but let's hope some new kde configuration emerges in time for karmic
[20:23] <davmor2> if it does it does it that quick you don't see it
[20:24] <Quintasan> Riddell: http://wklej.org/id/78274/txt
[20:24] <ghostcube___> a|wen_: :) yeah
[20:24]  * nixternal thinks that the KC will do the approvals of course, but maybe we should have a KTB :p
[20:24] <Riddell> I'd worry about too many committees
[20:24] <nixternal> Riddell: ya, that was kind of a little joke there with the KTB :P
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> Does anybody know the answer to my above question about konversation?
[20:26] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: paste it again
[20:26] <tsimpson> [20:20]<JontheEchidna> btw, what's the status of konversation in 9.04? Should it be demoted to universe since we aren't including it by default anymore?
[20:26] <JontheEchidna> Is there a reason it's still in main?
[20:26] <nixternal> Riddell: a new team for Kubuntu Developers or something though that will have upload access? We will need to confirm with the TB though as we will still have to do a MOTU/Core Dev like application process
[20:27] <davmor2> Riddell: I'm assuming it installed nothing being as it took mircoseconds to disappear but I don't get why it's appearing at all
[20:27] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I think we moved it to the dvd seed in the expection that quassel wouldn't be for everyone
[20:28] <Riddell> that may not be the case now
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> the reason I ask is bug 360965
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> the last comment there
[20:29] <nixternal> shoot, I need to upload docs like right now before freeze
[20:30] <nixternal> dang, missed the freeze deadline..that sucks
[20:30] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I can demote it
[20:30]  * nixternal has to do an exception now :(
[20:30] <Riddell> nixternal: I grant thee an exception
[20:30] <Riddell> if you're quick
[20:31] <nixternal> Riddell: it is incorporating the translations...it is a very slow and tedious process...not quick by any means...couple of hours of work at least
[20:31] <Riddell> nixternal: well any time today should be ok
[20:31] <nixternal> Riddell: groovy, probably int he next few hours I will have it uploaded
[20:31] <tsimpson> sound should work without aRts
[20:32] <JontheEchidna> really?
[20:33] <davmor2> Riddell: nice to see that print screen is linked to ksnapshot now :)
[20:34] <Quintasan> Okay, I'm going to get bed, night everyone. Riddell, if you have some free time here is debdiff for new semantik: http://wklej.org/id/78274/
[20:34] <tsimpson> JontheEchidna: afaik, arts is not essential, and apps can be compiled without arts support
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> yeah, konversation is
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> but wouldn't the aRts functionality still not be there?
[20:35] <JontheEchidna> since it's not being compiled
[20:35] <tsimpson> I mean there is usually a -no-arts flag for ./configure
[20:36] <JontheEchidna> yeah, and if it's compiled without arts shouldn't sound not work?
[20:36] <a|wen_> isn't the problem that konversation relies on the kde3 notification system ... maybe that has problem with sound in general
[20:36] <tsimpson> JontheEchidna: it should be able to use alsa I think
[20:37]  * tsimpson is not sure anymore :s
[20:37] <JontheEchidna> a|wen_: knotify is part of kdelibs, iirc
[20:38] <a|wen_> JontheEchidna: and kdelibs (kde3) is compiled without arts ... but the question is if knotify+sound works then
[20:39] <tsimpson> JontheEchidna:
 The ones from "Configure Notifications" do, if you set KNotify to use a player other than aRts in KControl
 The ones in "Configure Konversation" (i.e. the sounds for individual highlights) require aRts
[20:39] <tsimpson> so I guess it's a config issue
[20:39] <tsimpson> but some sound won't work
[20:40] <blueyed> Can somebody confirm bug 361275, before I report this upstream, please?
[20:42] <a|wen_> JontheEchidna: in any case konversation should go to universe, at least until we have a kde4 version in place IMO
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> I've been using the KDE4 version for a while, it should be ready for Karmic
[20:43] <e-jat> agreed with JontheEchidna
[20:45] <e-jat> i need to confirm about session in kde4 ..
[20:45] <e-jat> before i report it as a bugs ..
[20:45] <a|wen_> sounds good ... and basket kde4 version seems to be good for karmic as well
[20:45] <e-jat> seems like .. if i want to restore my previous session .. the application will crash ..
[20:46] <e-jat> am im the only one? i dont know to search for which bugs
[20:49] <JontheEchidna> which application?
[20:50] <e-jat> a few application if i left it in tray .. before i shutdown ..
[20:51] <e-jat> to summarize : it wont restore my previous session
[20:51] <e-jat> is it a bug ?
[20:51] <e-jat> where / how am i going to trace it ..
[20:53] <a|wen_> works fine here ... at least for kde4 applications
[20:54] <e-jat> a|wen_: u mean restoring the previous session ?
[20:54] <e-jat> u having problem to restore kde4 application?
[20:54] <e-jat> brb .. trying it ..
[21:04] <a|wen_> e-jat: restoring works fine here ... all my kde4 applications gets restored when logging in
[21:04] <e-jat> a|wen_: only 1
[21:04] <e-jat> im uploading the screenshot
[21:05] <e-jat> other application look fine .. accept kopete
[21:06] <blizzz> JontheEchidna: have you a ppa with kde4-version of konversation (or do you know one)?
[21:06] <JontheEchidna> I don't know of any, I compile from source
[21:07] <blizzz> well enough, do you have the link to svn at hand?
[21:08] <e-jat> a|wen_: http://yfrog.com/5sapplicationcrashattrayp
[21:08] <tsimpson> blizzz: I think tonio has it in his PPA
[21:08] <e-jat> im uploading 1 more screenshot
[21:09] <tsimpson> blizzz: https://launchpad.net/~tonio/+archive/ppa
[21:09] <JontheEchidna> svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/work/konvi-kde4
[21:09] <blizzz> thank you both tsimpson and JontheEchidna
[21:10] <blizzz> JontheEchidna: will it interfere with old konvi (if only compiled, but not make-installed)?
[21:10] <e-jat> a|wen_: http://yfrog.com/5vapplicationcrashattray1p <--
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> blizzz: I'd worry for your settings, I don't know what would happen
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> might be best to try with a different user
[21:11] <a|wen_> e-jat: does that happen everytime you log in?
[21:11] <blizzz> that's an idea
[21:12] <e-jat> a|wen_: sometimes i dont have session to restore ..
[21:13] <e-jat> i think yes .. maybe 1 or 2 ..
[21:13] <e-jat> maybe i need to test it out first .. is it occurs everytime or not
[21:13] <a|wen_> e-jat: doesn't happen for me ... i have kopete running at it is being restored fine every time i log in
[21:15] <e-jat> its ok .. not an issue for me .. hopefully its only me :)
[21:16] <e-jat> congrates to rgreening n a|wen_ :)
[21:16] <a|wen_> e-jat: normally a good way to confirm is to try with a new user
[21:17]  * a|wen_ jsut cleaned the topic for todays meeting
[21:17] <a|wen_> just*
[21:18] <e-jat> a|wen_: ok i will ..
[21:18] <e-jat> thats the right way to see new user with fresh session rite ?
[21:18] <a|wen_> e-jat: exactly
[21:19] <davmor2> Riddell: kdm is having issues on oem installs
[21:19]  * a|wen_ goes to sleep ...
[21:21]  * e-jat guys .. i think .. i need to offline .. since it already 4.20 am in MY :) .... c u guys later ..
[21:22] <e-jat> k guys .. c u later ..
[21:22] <tsimpson> e-jat: did you just /amsg that ?
[21:22] <tsimpson> wow
[21:23] <davmor2> Riddell: bug 361324
[21:59] <Blizzz_konvikde4> looks nice
[22:01] <jefferai> apachelogger: see my email to amarok-packagers...Nightrose said you had changes to the release script you hadn't checked in
[22:02] <jefferai> also, any news on a package for the script generator?
[22:02] <Nightrose> jefferai: one is in his ppa currently going through QA afaik
[22:02] <jefferai> SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTT
[22:04] <Blizzz_konvikde4> JontheEchidna: did you have any issues with konvi-kde4?
[22:05] <Blizzz_konvikde4> cause at first sight i'd replace old konvi
[22:12]  * Blizzz_konvikde4 goes to test old config on new konvi
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> blizzz: only very minor ones, like the window seems to sometimes move down a bit when restored from systray/when you move to the desktop is on
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> plus moving tabs up/down don't work
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> *doesn't
[22:19] <JontheEchidna> Otherwise I'm quite satisfied
[22:21] <blizzz> it seems not to run with the old config :( but this is not a major problem i think.
[22:22] <blizzz> the things you say are okay i think
[22:30] <blizzz> brb, moving to konvi-lkde4
[22:41] <blizzz> so :)
[23:00] <seaLne> kb9vqf: what were you looking for? btw is that a ham handle?
[23:00] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Yep, it is my ham callsign
[23:01] <kb9vqf> seaLne: I was looking for a mirror for the KDE3.5 LiveCD
[23:01] <seaLne> ah, i'm mm3zun soon to sit my intermediate uk license
[23:02]  * kb9vqf is glad to see another ham radio operator using Linux
[23:02] <kb9vqf> seaLne: I'm completely overloaded here with downloads of the CDs to the point where I had to shut them down
[23:03] <seaLne> was away tonight, when you were talking earlier, at the sort of practical group we have for radio in glasgow
[23:03] <kb9vqf> seaLne: What bands do you work usually?
[23:04] <seaLne> only got 2m antenna atm planning to build a multiband trap dipole in the next few weeks
[23:04] <seaLne> kb9vqf: what sort of bandwidth are you talking about and how often does the image change?
[23:05] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Well, before I shut it down earlier I had transferred 320.97 GB in about 6 hours
[23:05] <kb9vqf> seaLne: 14467 hits!
[23:05] <seaLne> thats a fair amount :)
[23:05] <kb9vqf> seaLne: The image will change usually a few days to a week after the Kubuntu releases (I think RC1, RC2, and final if I am remembering correctly)
[23:06] <seaLne> ah ok so not a few times a day, that should be fine
[23:06] <seaLne> i'm willing to give it a go but i don't promise anything about the stability of the machine,bw shouldn't be that much of an issue
[23:07] <kb9vqf> seaLne: I can do load balancing on this end, if you just want to stick the two ISOs up somewhere and send me the link
[23:07] <seaLne> k, where can i grab them?
[23:07] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Try http://apt4.pearsoncomputing.net/cd_images
[23:07]  * kb9vqf is not sure if that's the right link
[23:07] <seaLne> 404
[23:09] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Whoops....forgot that I deactivated that site.  Try it again...
[23:09] <kb9vqf> seaLne: I've been balancing between two servers, and had to shut both down
[23:09] <seaLne> still not getting anything
[23:09] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Try http://apt4.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages
[23:09] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Forgot to remove the underscore
[23:10] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Just do the Jaunty images; the Intrepid one is broken and obsolete
[23:10] <seaLne> heh, is there a wget able url?
[23:10] <kb9vqf> Yeah, just a sec while I extract them
[23:11] <seaLne> btw the links on that url 404 aswell
[23:11] <kb9vqf> Here:
[23:11] <kb9vqf> Here: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/kubuntu-9.04-beta-kde3-desktop-i386.iso
[23:11] <kb9vqf> No, this: http://apt4.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/kubuntu-9.04-beta-kde3-desktop-i386.iso
[23:11] <kb9vqf> and this here: http://apt4.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/kubuntu-9.04-beta-kde3-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:12] <kb9vqf> apt4 is my local server, apt2 is shut down due to high traffic, and apt is used to balance the two with DNS
[23:13] <seaLne> only getting about 50k
[23:13] <kb9vqf> seaLne: That's my lousy connection
[23:13] <kb9vqf> seaLne: I wish apt2 was still up, but I'm locked out until tomorrow
[23:14] <kb9vqf> seaLne: I was completely unprepared for this--the users really, really wanted KDE3 still! :-)
[23:14] <seaLne> http://www.geeksoc.org/~kd/ when they download
[23:15] <kb9vqf> seaLne: OK, thanks a lot!  Do you want a note on the page, something like "Mirror graciously provided by seaLne"?
[23:15] <seaLne> nah
[23:16] <seaLne> actually http://www.geeksoc.org/~kd/kde3/ is a better location
[23:16] <kb9vqf> OK, I'll look for them there.  Say, did you ever consider any PSK31 radio equipment?
[23:17] <seaLne> current estimate of 4 hours for the first one :-/
[23:17] <seaLne> yeah building a connector for my ft-817 is on my todo list
[23:17] <kb9vqf> I have 20, 40, and 80 meter equipment, and might be able to make it over the Atlantic...
[23:18] <seaLne> when i have things setup i'll poke you
[23:18] <kb9vqf> Sounds good!  I'd like to see how my Elecraft K2 works ;)
[23:19] <seaLne> ooh :)
[23:19] <seaLne> i built the t1 atu
[23:20] <seaLne> only really got into radio about 6 months ago
[23:20] <kb9vqf> how's that working for ya?  I'm still on my old manual tuner
[23:20] <kb9vqf> Well, I've been off and on for about 7 years (mainly off, unfortunately)
[23:20] <seaLne> its great was impressed how much it improved the signal even on a supposedly tuned mates 40m vertical
[23:21] <seaLne> size wise its perfect with the ft-817, i hope to do some SOTA stuff this summer but need to build a portable HF antenna aswell
[23:21] <kb9vqf> I used to have an 80M center-fed Windom, but it blew down a couple of years ago.  It had the most peculiar radiation pattern, all south and west
[23:22] <kb9vqf> Thinking of putting up a standard dipole instead :)
[23:22] <seaLne> heh
[23:23] <seaLne> i lurk in #hamradio and reasonably active in ##amateur-radio which is mainly glasgow people
[23:24] <kb9vqf> I might look around #hamradio someday...still new to IRC--it reminds me of PSK31 to some extent
[23:31] <seaLne> kb9vqf: that server isn't great spec and its nfs home but you might get about 5Mb/s out of it
[23:31] <kb9vqf> seaLne: It's better than the 400Kb/s I'm serving now! :-)
[23:32] <seaLne> also no guarantees about it not dieing but poke me if you notice any problems
[23:33] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Will do--I might even set up a script to check the status every few hours.  I'll give you a poke when I have RC1 ready (probably a week or so).
[23:34] <seaLne> i got baned from using the work webserver after it used to host commit-digest which generated 95% of the web traffic to the machine :)
[23:34] <kb9vqf> seaLne: What kind of Internet service do you have over there?
[23:34] <seaLne> its at a university
[23:34] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Ahh...one of the only places the Web truly thrives :)
[23:35] <kb9vqf> seaLne: Seems the universities have better connections than most others
[23:40] <Riddell> nixternal: how's that docs package?
[23:47] <ryanakca> nixternal: I'm leaving tomorrow right after school for the rest of the week, so unless we get to work on h.k.o tonight, it'll probably have to wait until Sunday morning. If you want to attack it yourself, all the themes are on lp, under the kubuntu-website project. (kubuntu-theme-v2 and kubuntu-wikitheme branches)