[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> jaggz: you should have MD5d before burning, saves wasted CDs
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> jaggz: if the burn completed, you can then boot to it and run the disk verifier on the first sceen
[14:06] <jaggz> it's different than that which is listed here..that's weird
[14:06] <lokai> then the download messed up ;)
[14:06] <jaggz> action, apparently I should!
[14:06] <jaggz> $ md5sum - < kubuntu-9.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso                  53dbbc96a39ff647a2d925e5b35b510f              686140271 2009-04-14 02:56 kubuntu-9.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[14:07] <jaggz> I ran it in virtualbox too, and it completely locked up X .. had to kill virtualbox with a -9 from a text console
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> yep looks like a garbaged file to me
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> redownload
[14:08] <jaggz> yeah.. site says:    4ec82b1ac846ab0823cfee02b581f959 *kubuntu-9.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> another way to check is to paste the genrated md5 in a websearch and ou should get results if its correct as they will match what people have put in forums and such ;)
[14:09] <jaggz> can't see the size on the site though.. how would I do a HEAD request with, say, wget?
[14:09] <jaggz> action, that's interesting :)
[14:11] <jaggz> Content-Length: 720046080
[14:11] <jaggz> looks like I didn't get the full thing..
[14:12] <jaggz> wget -c time :)
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> looks like a bad'un. Torrents hep with successful downloads due to the torrent protocol
[14:13] <jaggz> the thing is, I have a feeling normal error correction would prevent actual corruption of the file
[14:14] <jaggz> early termination is another issue
[14:14] <jaggz> so this wget with an md5 test afterwards will confirm
[14:15] <jaggz> but the cd itself is dead, definitely :)
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> thats what md5 is for
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> well its not a dead cup coaster
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> or frisbe
[14:15] <jaggz> yessir... haven't needed it in a long time.. now I know to bother each time.  :)
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> or wire a 9v battery to it and watch the prettyness
[14:16] <jaggz> ?
[14:16] <jaggz> 4ec82b1ac846ab0823cfee02b581f959
[14:17] <jaggz> there it is..
[14:18] <jaggz> that's also what k3b's "uh.. your image file is an invalid size" should have clued me into examining more closely
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> jaggz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLBTDT9Nuio
[14:19] <jaggz> but I have a stack of 50 coasters over here
[14:19] <jaggz> I mean, it's a stack of 75 fresh unburnt cd's... but...
[14:20] <jaggz> youtube's stopped functioning with my iceweasel for some reason
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> its how to make a usb lamp out of 2 cds
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> and some other bits
[14:21] <jaggz> yt's flash broke itself
[14:21] <jaggz> (youtube)
[14:21] <RizR> can't get kde to work. using ATI card with open source driver on kubuntu. Used gnome's utility to setup dual-head previously. kde's system->system settigns->display doesn't give any appropriate settings.
[14:21] <RizR> any ideas?
[14:21] <RizR> xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.com/m2be2f4e2
[14:22] <jaggz> is that kde related?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> RizR: all i can personally suggest is th !dualhead factoid which i'm guessing you have read
[14:22] <jaggz> ah
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> !dualhead
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> !xinerama
[14:23] <RizR> ActionParsnip1, I'm puzzled 'cuz it's working fine on gnome :-)
[14:23] <jaggz> rizr, can you get it to work at all with a single display?
[14:23] <RizR> jaggz, it's working fine with single. with two monitors it just clones the display.
[14:24] <jaggz> cd verifies after burn.. off we go to the other room to my lappy
[14:24] <jaggz> rizr, ahh
[14:24] <jaggz> no experience in it.. sorry bud.. rtfm :/
[14:25] <gaokai> OH, I just installed the kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu. then I restart my laptop,when shutting down and logging in,the logos has already changed into KUBUNTU,but at last in still enters in GNOME,why?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> RizR: ive seen this kind of issue said before but i dont use dual monitors, hell i only have 1 monitor for 3 systems
[14:26] <RizR> ActionParsnip1, do you use some home grown SplitDisplay X-extension that displays screen from all systems on one monitor? ;-)
[14:26] <RizR> thanks anyway
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> RizR: nope, ssh and some web interfaces
[14:27] <gaokai> and I use /etc/gdm stop ,then /etc/kdm start .But it says "the kdm is already running".why?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> gaokai: its default in kubuntu
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> gaokai: unless you have installed gdm it wont be there
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> and certainly wont be running unless you switched from kdm to gdm
[14:29] <gaokai> oh, the current desktop is gnome,I want to run KDE now
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> gaokai: you can boot into kde with gdm
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> gaokai: just change your default session to kde and you will lo into it each time
really?how to do that?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> gaokai: like i said, on the login screen, look around and you will see where to change the session type
thank you,Let me try
[14:37] <RizR> ActionParsnip1, xrandr does the trick.
[14:38] <RizR> xrandr --output <secondary-output> --off
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> nice one
[14:38] <RizR> xrandr --output <secondary> --right-of <primary>
[14:39] <RizR> any idea how does gnome handle this? if it uses xrandr as well then it's all good. I just put this in a script in Xsession.d
[14:39] <RizR> otherwise will have to find a way so my existing setup doesn't get screwed
[14:42] <elwood> hi all, i'm looking for a list of the features of kubuntu 9.04 for a press comunicate, anyone can help me about?
[14:46] <Mamarok> elwood: you should check that with the Kubuntu developers IMHO
[14:47] <Mamarok> elwood: write a mail to jriddell@canonical.com
[14:47] <JontheEchidna> elwood: The wiki page that we link to in the Beta announcement should give a pretty good overview
[14:48] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Beta/Kubuntu
[14:48] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: thx :) didn't think of that one
[14:48] <JontheEchidna> :)
 Thank you. I entered KDE now
[15:00] <ActionParsnip1> gaokai: cool
[15:06] <Novalgina2Fast> hi
[15:07] <Novalgina2Fast> i have a problem, i have upgrade to jaunty(from intrepid) but knetwork.manager now doesn't start(but it is installed)
[15:10] <jaggz> I don't like kubuntu's live cd
[15:11] <jaggz> too showy.. trying to compete with the vista/osx gunk... I don't mind an os being pretty, but they change everything to try to make an advanced interface and I think it's really not that intuitive..
[15:11] <jaggz> anyway, we'll see.. I'll try a bit more
[15:27] <gamerchick02> hey all... i'm looking for a kde app to use my PSC 1210 all in one scanner, printer, copier. any recommendations for a kde app?
[15:32] <jaggz> xsane used to work for my scanning but it stopped
[15:34] <libervisco> KDE4 is much more responsive with openbox it seems
[15:34] <libervisco> on Radeon X800
[15:38] <gamerchick02> thanks
[15:38] <gamerchick02> i'm in jaunty, btw
[15:41] <Dragnslicer> gamerchick02- CUPS should be able to handle the printing normally
[15:43] <gamerchick02> i'm looking for something to use the scanner
[15:43] <Dragnslicer> I can't remember what program I used for the scanner last time I needed to
[15:43] <gamerchick02> lol
[15:43] <gamerchick02> i think i can get xsane or something
[15:43] <gamerchick02> i was hoping for something kde, but i guess i don't really care
[15:43] <Dragnslicer> Quick Google search brings up kooka
[15:44] <gamerchick02> ah. thanks! i'll check it out
[15:44] <genii> kooka is for kde 3
[15:44] <genii> !info kscan
[15:44] <Dragnslicer> !info skanlite
[15:44] <genii> !info kscan-kde4
[15:45]  * genii kicks the bot around some
[15:45] <Dragnslicer> skanlite is the first thing I found in Adept
[15:47] <Dragnslicer> Yeah, looks like kscan got dropped after hardy
[15:48] <gamerchick02> thanks. i'm searching right now
[15:49] <itai_michaelson> hi -will konqueror show my smb network files in its 'places' menu ?
[15:49] <itai_michaelson> network shares...
[15:58] <mireo> jak zmienieć ext3 na ext4
[16:22] <geoff270> join #mldonkey
[16:50] <NTFS> Linux is the worst piece of shit i have ever used next to the playstation 3.
[16:54] <ubuntu> join #kubuntu-de
[16:54] <ubuntu> #kubuntu-de
[17:07] <Gabriel> kello all
[17:28] <lorecaster> hey all. i moved to upgrade from OOo 2.4 to 3.01 but it doesn't appear to have taken
[17:32] <lorecaster> anyone?
[17:32] <lorecaster> sudo --help
[17:32] <lorecaster> oops
[17:34] <lorecaster> the application says that i need to install the program as root... so i'm in the terminal, in the proper directory...
[17:35] <lorecaster> i tried SUDO SETUP and it failed, SUDO UPDATE, then i tried SUDO INSTALL SETUP, SUDO INSTALL UPDATE, etc
[17:35] <snikker> hi, someone can help me to play a video file inside a main gui of vlc? instead of a separated window...
[17:36] <genii> Hopefully not all in uppercase like just now in your description
[17:36] <lorecaster> oh no, all lowercase :)
[17:36] <lorecaster> needed some way of differenciation... that or brackets, quotes, etc.
[17:36] <p_quarles> lorecaster: which set of packages for OOo3 are you using?
[17:37] <lorecaster> OOo_3.0.1_LinuxIntel_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz
[17:37] <lorecaster> downloaded them this morning
[17:37] <p_quarles> lorecaster: why not the .deb.tar.gz?
[17:37] <p_quarles> i.e., the one specifically packaged for Debian and Ubuntu?
[17:38] <lorecaster> on the site, this one downloaded... i'll investigate further and see if i can't find the deb file :D
[17:39] <lorecaster> neat! they were hiding it, but i found it!! :) thanks
[17:39] <lorecaster> be 20 minutes to download, but i'll get it :D
[17:40] <lorecaster> thanks for being patient with me guys and gals :$ M$ to Linux is a little bit of a difficult transition
[17:59] <multimedia> hello im a newbee running 8.10 how do i edit screen size
[17:59] <keisangi> keisangi
[18:01] <spiroo> Two questions: First of all, is it possible to turn numlock on BEFORE you login on KDE desktop? Secondly, is it possible in ARK to ignore CRC fail like it is in winrar, because I hate when it does not unpack things?
[18:01] <lorecaster> hehe back again :$ now that i have the deb.tar.gz file...
[18:02] <multimedia> display settings can i change
[18:04] <multimedia> i need help basic any one
[18:05] <lorecaster> i can try... i'm probably as green as you are :)
[18:05] <lorecaster> this room is very quiet sometimes, i've noticed.
[18:05] <multimedia> well im using 8.19 ubuntuuu can you still help
[18:05] <lorecaster> 8.10 here... i can still try.
[18:06] <lorecaster> i have a knack or finding info on the net
[18:06] <genii> !ask
[18:06] <multimedia> i cant seamto find display settings
[18:08] <lorecaster> alright then, i'll ask mine again too :) i now have my open office 3.01 bed.taz.gz file, but the update script won't run an installer of any nature. what sudo command do i need to run in terminal?
[18:08] <lorecaster> *deb.tar.gz... sorry, dyslexic
[18:09] <multimedia> how do you find more chat links on konversation
[18:10] <qyn123> how to install w32codecs on Ubuntu?
[18:11] <multimedia> how to install adobe to watch abc cbs video
[18:12] <spiroo> Two questions: First of all, is it possible to turn numlock on BEFORE you login on KDE desktop? Secondly, is it possible in ARK to ignore CRC fail like it is in winrar, because I hate when it does not unpack things?
[18:12] <lorecaster> spiroo... numlock is a bios thing for your first question
[18:12] <lorecaster> you can fix that in your BIOS settings
[18:13] <genii> lorecaster: First you have to uncompress with something like: tar -xzf filename.deb.tar.gz         ...which should give you: filename.deb        thn: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[18:13] <genii> !codecs
[18:13] <spiroo> lorecaster: No it is a Linux problem. It is on in my BIOS.
[18:13] <genii> qyn123 and multimedia, see bot's message above
[18:14] <lorecaster> thanks genii
[18:14] <genii> !flash | multimedia
[18:14] <lorecaster> uhh... Genii... there's a folder with 48 DEB files in it :|
[18:15] <qyn123> ok!thanks! genii
[18:15] <genii> lorecaster: look for one which seems to be the main one. Like openoffice-core   or similar
[18:15] <genii> qyn123: You're welcome
[18:16] <genii> lorecaster: If you like, use pastebin website to put the file list there and I'll see which one it could be
[18:16] <lorecaster> begging your pardon, use what?
[18:17] <genii> !pastebin
[18:17] <spiroo> Is it possible in ARK to ignore CRC fail like it is in winrar, because I hate when it does not unpack things?
[18:19] <lorecaster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/150942/
[18:19] <lorecaster> wow... linux has a solution for everything. it's amazing... i've been missing out :(
[18:27] <genii> Apologies on lag, my worplace keeps needing me for stretches of a few minutes at a time here
[18:27] <genii> lorecaster: Reading the paste, 1 minute
[18:28] <lorecaster> you're my benevelant benefactor, who would i be to complain about lag :)
[18:28] <genii> lorecaster: Looks like the relevant file here is: openoffice.org3_3.0.1-15_amd64.deb
[18:29] <genii> lorecaster: So to: sudo dpkg -i openoffice.org3_3.0.1-15_amd64.deb
[18:29] <lorecaster> you're wonderful :D
[18:29] <genii> lorecaster: The password it will want is your regular one, when it asks
[18:30] <genii> lorecaster: Glad to assist
[18:30] <lorecaster> uhh... there's something else here... dependancy problems?
[18:31] <lorecaster> openoffice .org-ure is not installed, nor core1-7... oobasis3.0images, oobasis3.0fonts   --eek
[18:31] <genii> lorecaster: Looks like, yes. But they are usually informative in finding out which one is required first
[18:32] <lorecaster> genii: other than the order of the files... lemme paste.ubuntu again
[18:33] <lorecaster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/150949/
[18:33] <genii> lorecaster: The other files in the list which look to be main files would be ooobasis3.0-en-us_3.0.1-15_amd64.deb
[18:33] <lorecaster> will try that one next
[18:33] <genii> and ooobasis3.0-en-us-base_3.0.1-15_amd64.deb
[18:34] <genii> When I copy/paste off the pastebin it seems to be wanting to put a carriage return/linefeed
[18:36] <lorecaster> there's even more dependancy issues... each time there's another
[18:36] <lorecaster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/150951/
[18:36] <lorecaster> -tear-
[18:38] <qyn123> goodnight everybody!
[18:38] <genii> lorecaster: You could try to just install the entire batch of them with a wildcard in the name
[18:38] <lorecaster> does it work the same way as it did in DOS? *.*?
[18:38] <p_quarles> lorecaster: go to the unpacked directory and: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[18:38] <genii> lorecaster: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[18:38] <genii> p_quarles: :)
[18:38] <p_quarles> :)
[18:39] <lorecaster> thanks Genii... working on that now
[18:39] <lorecaster> it's working... how glorious :D
[18:39] <lorecaster> this group is a godsend
[18:40] <jackcy_> Sorry to put this weird question. A friend of mine using kubuntu 8.10 made all the current updates today. After rebooting his machine, he cannot log on to kde (4.1.x), he always drops back to the login screen. Any hints?
[18:40] <lorecaster> genii, my openoffice link still loads 2.4, not 3.0
[18:40] <genii> lorecaster: Probably cached
[18:41] <p_quarles> lorecaster: those packages load into /opt; you can add them to menus manually
[18:41] <lorecaster> or do the ctrl+alt+bkspace?
[18:41] <p_quarles> lorecaster: alternatively, I think it includes a package for menu files in the desktop-integration sub-directory; look in there
[18:42] <p_quarles> in any event, it does *not* install over your existing 2.4 packages
[18:42] <cedric_> french please
[18:42] <lorecaster> so i can uninstall the 2.4?
[18:42] <lorecaster> kks
[18:43] <Pici> !fr | cedric_
[18:44] <genii> Work, afk
[18:44] <p_quarles> lorecaster: you can if you want to, but there's no reason you have to
[18:45] <lorecaster> i'd probably use the wrong one and get confused :P i'm a flake that way soemtimes. but on a 1.5tb drive, i agree that it is not necessary :P
[18:46] <cedric_> how to compil c file with heiders?
[18:49] <jaggz> kubuntu's wireless aint workin on my thinkypad
[18:49] <tsimpson> cedric_: install the "build-essential" package
[18:54] <cedric_> Build-essential is already installed
[18:58] <lorecaster> now that i have OOo.org 3.0 installed, how do i get the shortcuts on my menu?
[19:01] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting
[19:06] <lorecaster> can anyone help me?
[19:09] <lorecaster> nevermind, i got it! :D -proud-
[19:11] <xxx_> hello people ! I have Kubuntu 8.04 and I can't play *.mov files  What player can play MOV files??? Thanks
[19:11] <jason_froebe> !medibuntu
[19:11] <jason_froebe> xxx_ take a look at medibuntu
[19:17] <spiroo> Has anybody in here a tvix that is configured with GNU/Linux?
[19:23] <|PaperTiger|> I'm using 8.10 with KDE 4.2. Just installed Skype for Linux, but it hasn't shown up in my Applications menu. Where will I find it? Or how can I run it anyway?
[19:24] <lun4tic> hi
[19:25] <sachin> hi how r u
[19:25] <lun4tic> does somebody know a tutorial how to integrate nvidia drivers into a kubuntu live CD/DVD?
[19:25] <lun4tic> i want to show KDE around but without 3D support on mostly NVidia hardware it sucks... :)
[19:26] <lun4tic> is there any KDE4 kubuntu with allready integrated proprietary nvidia drivers?
[19:26] <lun4tic> or maybe remastering tutorials or sth.
[19:28] <stranger101080> hey man please help lun4tic
[19:29] <Pici> !ask
[19:30] <Gabriel> so some girl
[19:33] <spiroo> Is it possible in ARK to ignore CRC fail like it is in winrar, because I hate when it does not unpack things?
[19:33] <spiroo> Has anybody in here a tvix that is configured with GNU/Linux?
[19:33] <spiroo> Is it possible to turn numlock on BEFORE you login on KDE desktop?
[19:34] <jackcy_> Does anyone know how to fix the logon to kde problem? After entering user and password the screen gets blank and the logon screen is displayed again. Thx.
[19:35] <AmyRose> !pm | gabriel
[19:35] <genii> /back
[19:35] <genii> Bleh
[19:39] <genii> jackcy_: If you can obtain a terminal console I would try to ensure permissions of that user's home directory are correct. ls -la /home/username|less for instance and check that all the files belong to that user. Especially anything in /home/username/.kde directory. If not owned by them to chown the bad ones
[19:41] <bluesteaks> is there a plasmoid or something else to get krunner into the panel?
[19:43] <AmyRose> Please stop PMing me, Gabriel
[19:45] <jason_froebe> AmyRose - you should be able to block Gabriel using your irc client
[19:45] <Gabriel> sorry
[19:45] <jocke__> hi
[19:46] <jocke__> kinda new to this linux thing
[19:46] <jocke__> anyone able to give a noob some advices ? :)
[19:46] <genii> !ask | jocke__
[19:47] <jocke__> is there a channel for Ubuntu 8.04 users ?
[19:47] <jackcy_> genii: I'm sorry. This did not help. I even chowned the full home directory without success. Moving the .kde directory did not help either.
[19:48] <genii> jocke__: This channel you are in is the support channel. For more idle talk not support related, #kubuntu-offtopic is better
[19:48] <devilsadvocate> jocke__, #ubuntu ?
[19:48] <jason_froebe> jocke__ - try #ubuntu
[19:49] <landon_> can someone help me install my ati drivers im a newbie??
[19:49] <lun4tic> landon_: yes, buy some nvidia card... ;)
[19:50] <landon_> I just want to know how to install
[19:51] <genii> jackcy_: Did the upgrade include a kernel upgrade? If previously you were using nvidia or ati proprietary drivers for instance, this also could explain
[19:51] <lun4tic> which version of kubuntu do you use,  which card do you have, have you allready corrupted the system with failed trys?
[19:52] <landon_> 8.4 old crappy radeon 9500
[19:52] <genii> !ati | landon_
[19:52] <lun4tic> -.-
[19:52] <lun4tic> forget it... :D
[19:52] <lun4tic> proprietary is not worth it i think
[19:53] <lun4tic> maybe x.org supports it allready
[19:53] <lun4tic> but i've had some very bad experience with 9500-9700 cards
[19:53] <landon_> I have it installed in the 3rd party im wanting to enable the 3d
[19:54] <lun4tic> if the driver is installed correctly and the card was recocnized 3d should allready work if you have rebootet
[19:54] <genii> Work, I will be laggy for a while
[19:54] <desu> TEAM PlanB
[19:55] <spiroo> Is it possible to turn numlock on BEFORE you login on KDE desktop?
[19:55] <landon_> well a friend of mine has the ati catylist installed and it works alot better and his card is way older than mine
[19:56] <jackcy_> genii: nvidia-180 drivers were activated for sure. I'll use a backup of my xorg.conf then. But I'm wondering why I get the login screen - this should fail if the driver cannot be loaded. Reporting back in a few minutes.
[20:01] <spiroo> Is it possible in ARK to ignore CRC fail like it is in winrar, because I hate when it does not unpack things?
[20:01] <spiroo> I want to unpack even if broken, because it works 90% of the time anyway :P
[20:05] <jackcy_> spiroo: You can try it via the command prompt and the unrar command. There is the option -av- which "Disable Authenticity Verification check." I did not find a corresponding setting in ark.
[20:05] <spiroo> jackcy_: Not to sound negative but I know :D But I want to use the fabulous service menu only. Quite annoying to use temrinal all the time
[20:06] <robinr> in 99.99999 of the cases youwon'
[20:06] <robinr> in 99.99999 of the cases you won't need to bypass the check
[20:08] <cheezhat> can anyone in here help me, I got a small problem with kubuntu......
[20:09] <cheezhat> anyone?
[20:09] <genii> cheezhat: Best to just describe the problem first
[20:10] <cheezhat> alright, first off I'm using konversation to talk to you, as an example; all the nicks at the right of the window aren't there until I click on them....
[20:11] <cheezhat> any tool tip popups or whatever are blank, if I can click on the "window" or whatever it will then display the text
[20:11] <jason_froebe> cheezhat - may want to ask on #konversation
[20:12] <spiroo> Has anybody in here a tvix that is configured with GNU/Linux? I need to fix permissions for the NFS-server, so I can autostart it on login?
[20:12] <cheezhat> it was just my example not a problem with konversation
[20:12] <smiges> тест
[20:13] <genii> !ru | smiges
[20:14] <smiges> первый раз в ирке
[20:16] <genii> smiges:   /join #ubuntu-ru   это принесет вас там
[20:18] <smiges>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[20:26] <bdizzle> what chan works with open office?
[20:26] <bdizzle> !ooo
[20:27] <devilsadvocate> !koffice2
[20:28] <genii> !info koffice
[20:30] <bdizzle> okay, this is probably dumb, but would anyone be willling to help me with matching colors and such on presentations for powerpoint?
[20:31] <bdizzle> I want it looking professional, and my creative skills aren't quite working today (shockingly)
[20:31] <devilsadvocate> bdizzle, openoffice themes/
[20:31] <devilsadvocate> ?
[20:31] <bdizzle> yeah, thinking of it
[20:32] <bdizzle> I hate doing it, but where can I find the themes at?
[20:33] <devilsadvocate> bdizzle, google :P
[20:33] <bdizzle> gee, thanks
[20:33] <devilsadvocate> there are some pretty nice ones out there in various licenses
[20:33] <bdizzle> duh where do you load the themes from in impress?
[20:34] <smiges> когда на мыло письмо придёт
[20:38] <ubuntu_> hi
[20:38] <ubuntu_> you_
[20:40] <smiges> ping
[20:40] <desu> TEAM PlanB
[20:40] <xevix> что?
[20:40] <smiges> бля
[20:40] <tsimpson> !ru
[20:41] <ubuntu_> anybody speak enlish or spanish?
[20:42] <xevix> english here
[20:42] <xevix> probably #ubuntu-es for spanish
[20:42] <xevix> !es
[20:43] <bdizzle> okay, now that they are downloaded, how do I use them in my documents?
[20:43] <Adoro> hi
[20:45] <Adoro> Can anyone tell me why I can run music in Dragon Player but not in Amarok or VLC Player ?
[20:45] <Adoro> No sound that is
[20:48] <pippo2> c'è qualcuno?
[20:48] <Adoro> que?
[20:48] <p_quarles> !it | pippo2
[20:49] <p_quarles> Adoro: are they attempting to use different backends?
[20:49] <ubuntu_> how can i see someone-s cam in kopete?
[20:49] <Adoro> not sure, ive tried several 'outputs'
[20:50] <Adoro> if thats what you mean p_
[20:50] <Adoro> p_quarles
[20:51] <p_quarles> Adoro: I just wonder if, say, Dragon is using Phonon, and the others are attempting to use Pulse; or vice versa
[20:51] <Adoro> is there a way i can check? :)
[20:52] <p_quarles> Adoro: kcmshell4 kcm_phonon
[20:54] <kusanagi> does kubuntu has a guest session?
[20:55] <Adoro> backend only has xine
[20:55] <Adoro> by the looks of it
[20:55] <p_quarles> Adoro: which device is most preferred?
[20:56] <Adoro> ive set it to my audiocard
[20:56] <Adoro> Creative ALSA Driver X-Fi (WaveOut/WaveIn)
[20:56] <p_quarles> Adoro: which amarok are you running?
[20:56] <p_quarles> 1.4? 2.0? 2.1?
[20:56] <Adoro> 1.4.10
[20:57] <jackcy_> genii: reinstalling the nvidia-glx-180 did not help. I reconfigured the xserver files too - without success. After installing gdm and setting it as default the user could log on kde. That indicated me that the kdm package was defect after installing. But removing and reinstalling kdm (and kubuntu-deskptop) did not help. So I'm using gdm as standard for now.
[20:57] <p_quarles> Adoro: well, that explains it; KDE4's system settings won't affect Amarok 1.4; not sure what to tell you after that
[20:57] <Adoro> ...yeah ill update :P
[20:59] <kusanagi> does kubuntu have a guest session like ubuntu does?
[21:00] <xxx_> hi all again
[21:00] <afeijo> how can I control what my crontab will email me? it email a lot, lol
[21:00] <xxx_> after instalation this codecs : sudo apt-get install w32codecs ; sudo apt-get install w64codecs; sudo apt-get install ppc-codecs a can't play MOV files
[21:01] <jshewey> I am using jaunty and I think I am having trouble with ipv6 DNS lookups slowing my internet connection. IPv6 is built into the kernel in jaunty, so blacklisting the module has no effect. Anyone know how I might turn IPv6 off?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> xxx_: you only need the arch you use, you dont need 32 and 64
[21:02] <xxx_> who can halp me , with MOV files ?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> xxx_: install kubuntu-restriced-extras and you'll get pretty much everything you'll need
[21:02] <lorecaster> i'm hoping someone can help... ideally, i want Autocad to work, which it does not... but i've got Vectorworks 2008 here, and i cannot figure out how to install it with Wine... there doesn't even appear to be an installer in the ISO file
[21:03] <xxx_> ActionParsnip thanks , i'll try
[21:03] <aga> jshewey:  you might want to ask in #ubuntu+1 for jaunty issues
[21:04] <kusanagi> lorecaster, if there is not an installer in the ISO you cant install it, neither wine, nor windows
[21:04] <kusanagi> lorecaster, look for a README.txt or sumthing like that
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:05] <lorecaster> i'm a computer tech for microsoft products... 2 years college 5 years experience... it's just linux i've never used before. :P
[21:05] <lorecaster> couldn't find much of a readme either... was hoping it was something careless i'm missing
[21:06] <lorecaster> i'm just having such a hard time finding an industry-grade CAD program to work in my ubuntu
[21:07] <jcprather> any idea why ls is not implemented in nslookup, and how one might go about gettign that functionality, since someone decided to take it out of the nslookup tool?
[21:07] <alid> Is it unsecure to change the permissions of $HOME/.ssh to 777?
[21:07] <jcprather> driving me crazy, and googling turns up idiots saying "there is no ls in nslookup"
[21:08] <jcprather> alid: no!
[21:08] <jcprather> giving everybody write permissions to that dir would let people delete files iwthin
[21:08] <jcprather> and create new files within
[21:08] <Dragnslicer> alid- yeah, especially if you have any private keys saved there
[21:08] <jason_froebe> jcprather - what are you trying to do?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> alid: yes as all users on your system will have full access to it
[21:09] <jcprather> jason_froebe: check if the nameserver is configured to allow zone transfers, and grab a list of hostnames on a specific domain/subdomain to test
[21:09] <Dragnslicer> alid- it would also someone to add their own public key to your authorized_keys file
[21:09] <jcprather> alid: when i said no! i meant yes! as indicated by what i said afterward ;)
[21:09] <jason_froebe> jcprather - I believe "dig" will do it
[21:09] <jason_froebe> iirc
[21:10] <jcprather> jason_froebe: aha! dig is a nifty tool, i'll look through its man for that feature
[21:10] <jcprather> thanks!
[21:10] <alid> I am going to ssh to a remote host without password. I added my host id_rsa.pub to the authorized_keys file on the remote server, and set its permission to 600, it doesn't work though.
[21:11] <alid> I thought it might be because that the username on my local machine varries from mine on the server.
[21:11] <jason_froebe> alid - try:  ssh-copy-id username@hostname
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> alid: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~arun/misc/ssh.html
[21:11] <jason_froebe> alid - it'll work for most unix-type systems
[21:12] <jason_froebe> assuming the remote system's admin didn't disable it
[21:13] <alid> jason_froebe: I did it, it's still asking me for password though.
[21:14] <drax2gma> hi all
[21:14] <drax2gma> Anybody here also got font garbage problem with kde+jaunty?
[21:15] <jason_froebe> alid - run ssh with the verbose "-v" option - look for where the key is offered to the server
[21:15] <jason_froebe> multiple "-v" will increase the verbosity
[21:17] <alid> jason_froebe: I am not that expert to understand these debugging info.
[21:18] <alid> jason_froebe: Could you please take a look at the trace please? http://pastebin.ca/1392077
[21:18] <jason_froebe> alid - taking a look
[21:19] <jason_froebe> alid - your key is being rejected
[21:20] <alid> jason_froebe: Why?
[21:21]  * e-jat guys .. i think .. i need to offline .. since it already 4.20 am in MY :) .... c u guys later ..
[21:21] <brano_> cya ;-)
[21:22] <ubuntu> hi
[21:22] <jason_froebe> alid - a quick google pulls up http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794765  -
[21:23] <alid> jason_froebe: Does my username on the local machine have to be the same as the one I use to access the remote machine?
[21:23] <jason_froebe> alid - meaning the problem is probably on the server side.  you may want to send the link to the box's admin
[21:23] <jason_froebe> alid - nope
[21:24] <alid> jason_froebe: Alright. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it :)
[21:24] <jason_froebe> alid - no prob
[21:27] <alid> Is there any command to figure out the distribution of the linux installed on a remote machine?
[21:29] <jason_froebe> cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:29] <robinr> that's the local machine
[21:30] <jason_froebe> not if you ssh to the other machine ;-)
[21:30] <Adoro> well p_quarles, ive updated my amarok...still no sound :S mind you, i do have sound from dragon player
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: change your sound output device in amarok may help
[21:39] <Adoro> looking for the option ActionParsnip, did find it in the old amarok -_-
[21:39] <Adoro> odd is, it doesnt work in vlc either
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: i dont use the new one, i use 1.4 as it supports xul remote which is essential
[21:42] <Adoro> hm just found something by accident
[21:42] <Adoro> was looking at wine
[21:42] <Adoro> and when i went to sound it said
[21:42] <Adoro> "There is no audio driver registered in the registry"
[21:43] <Adoro> specified even
[21:45] <jason_froebe> wine's winecfg is like that normally...
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: do you have the wine from the wine repo?
[21:46] <Adoro> default package that came with kubuntu
[21:47] <Adoro> there is clearly something wrong with my driver
[21:47] <Adoro> mind blowing is that it works in 1 program
[21:47] <Adoro> but not in any other program
[21:47] <Adoro> i use Creative Sound Blaster ExtremeMusic
[21:48] <jason_froebe> Adoro - thinking that the audio daemon is messed up, have you tried restarting?
[21:48] <Adoro> ill do that again
[21:48] <Adoro> brb
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> good ol creative :(
[21:49] <chronic> when im searching repos with aptitude search, what switch will return version number?
[21:49] <chronic> i already tried v ,V ,-v ,-V and none return version number
[21:49] <jason_froebe> maybe...  wonder which version of kubuntu and kde Adoro is using
[21:51] <Kealper> hello
[21:52] <Adoro> thats didnt do much good
[21:52] <Kealper> i was just wondering how i would go about switching my logon screen back to the kubuntu default screen, from the ubuntu screen. i installed the ubuntu-desktop package for gnome, but it turns out this comp sucks too much lol
[21:52] <jason_froebe> Adoro - which version of kubuntu and kde are you using?
[21:53] <Adoro> will it do any good if I say latest? :)
[21:53] <Adoro> otherwise tell me how to check
[21:53] <jason_froebe> Adoro - cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: lsb_release -c will give the codename
[21:54] <Adoro> 8.10
[21:56] <Adoro> DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.10
[21:56] <Adoro> DISTRIB_CODENAME=intrepid
[21:57] <Adoro> is there a common problem with creative cards?
[21:57] <Adoro> or am i just being special? :P
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: creative can't even support windows at the best of time
[21:59] <Adoro> lol
[22:00] <jason_froebe> I don't use Dragon Player but I think it is a front end to xine.  if we can determine where the it is sending the sound output .....
[22:00] <Adoro> hm looks like i broke it totally now -_-
[22:00] <Adoro> even dragon player wont work no more
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: restart hal
[22:04] <Adoro> done
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: any help
[22:09] <Adoro> no
[22:09] <Adoro> i just noticed this though:
[22:09] <Adoro> at system settings and then multimedia
[22:09] <Adoro> i go to backend
[22:09] <Adoro> it says:
[22:10] <Adoro> The shared library was not found.Library "kcm_phononxine" not found
[22:10] <jason_froebe> that would do it
[22:10] <jason_froebe> i think
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: could be a clue
[22:11] <Kealper> sorry to interupt, but is there a subversion client that comes preinstalled on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[22:11] <jason_froebe> Adoro - sudo aptitude reinstall phonon-backend-xine
[22:11] <jason_froebe> Kealper - preinstalled? no.. kdesvn works fine though
[22:11] <Kealper> ok, thanks
[22:11] <jason_froebe> np
[22:12] <Adoro> done
[22:12] <Adoro> i reboot i reckon?
[22:13] <jason_froebe> Adoro - shouldn't have to but it wouldn't hurt
[22:14] <Adoro> hm
[22:14] <bafman> hi guys
[22:14] <Adoro> brb
[22:15] <Kealper> also, its not really a problem, but its just a question, is there a way to change logon screens? i recently installed the ubuntu-desktop trying to get a easy gnome install but gnome is too epic for this computer, im using kde again but its still got the ubuntu logon...how do i switch back to the kubuntu logon screen?
[22:16] <jason_froebe> Kealper - sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop  <-- will do it :)
[22:16] <bafman> anyone experienced issue with gtkqt theming during restoring session in kde? Precisely when I change color scheme in KDE and start ie ffox, it has correct colors. When logged out without quitting ffox and again relogin, ffox has default white color scheme
[22:16] <bafman> after quiting ffox and restarting it everything is ok
[22:17] <Kealper> i tried that, but it doesnt do anything, since ive already got the most recent kde installed
[22:17] <Adoro> yeah i rly broke something this time
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> bafman: bit hacky but you could add a killall firefox to your logoff script
[22:17] <Adoro> doh
[22:18] <bafman> ActionParsnip: well, I would rather fix the issue ;-)
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> bafman: have you tried creating a new profile to see if its the profile
[22:18] <bafman> ActionParsnip: will try
[22:19] <Adoro> what do i set my master channel to for my audio card?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> !sound | Adoro
[22:24]  * jcprather chuckles at bot's clever use of "| Nick|
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> jcprather: good aint it
[22:25] <jcprather> yeah pretty awesome
[22:25] <Kealper> wow kdesvn is simple to use, i thought it was gonna be all command-line and such lol
[22:28] <jason_froebe> Kealper - it's quite handy :)
[22:30] <skarn> I have made a mess with my shortcuts
[22:30] <skarn> now I can't find where to change some of them
[22:30] <skarn> like crtl + esc for task manager
[22:31] <skarn> or maiusc + alt + f12 to disable composite effetcs
[22:31] <devilsadvocate> skarn, global shortcuts
[22:31] <Dragnslicer> skarn- System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse
[22:31] <devilsadvocate> somewhere in system settings
[22:31] <skarn> I know that
[22:32] <skarn> it's there I made the mess :)
[22:32] <skarn> I just can't find some specific one
[22:32] <Adoro> cool
[22:32] <Adoro> i fixed it
[22:32] <skarn> so I thought some might be hidden somewhere
[22:32] <lidia_> ciao
[22:32] <lidia_> !list
[22:32] <jason_froebe> Adoro - what was it?
[22:33] <bafman> ActionParsnip: seems to be profile's issue
[22:33] <Adoro> well, i recently updated my bios on my mobo...thus my onboard soundcard got activated again. i forget that...just now i disabled it
[22:33] <Adoro> and solved my problems
[22:34] <Adoro> tnx for help :)
[22:35] <jason_froebe> Adoro - that's good news :)
[22:36] <Adoro> :) yep
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Adoro: best way, having 2 soundcards can confuse stuff if not confured right
[22:37] <Adoro> yeah
[22:39] <Adoro> now i need to look into the troubles i had with eclipse and netbeans -_-
[22:41] <PodeCoet> is there any way to add an ssh 'share' to stab, for access using /mnt/sshShare or something?
[22:41] <PodeCoet> *fstab
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> its mounting sftp
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> PodeCoet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270806
[22:42] <skarn> mmhh.. sorry, looks like I didn't look well enough
[22:43] <skarn> some could be found, and some didn't work because krunner crashed...
[22:43] <PodeCoet> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[22:46] <lorecaster> looking for an adventurous someone to help me get autocad architectural desktop 2007 to work in linux.
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: wine
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | lorecaster
[22:47] <lorecaster> @winehq on this server?
[22:47] <`noctis_avis> crossover
[22:47] <lorecaster> i've had no luck with wine and ADT07
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: #winehq
[22:47] <lorecaster> perfect!! :D thanks
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: crossover / cedega is not free as in beer
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> or speech
[22:48] <lorecaster> working with the #wine people, thanks so much peeps
[22:52] <whilo> hi i am testing jaunty and i have had bad experiences with kde 4 and ram usage
[22:53] <whilo> i have written a blog entry about it (actually another one which also mentioned this problem) here: http://whilos.blogsite.org/?p=102
[22:53] <whilo> now people keep claiming that the high ram usage is a problem with kubuntu and i should change the distribution
[22:53] <whilo> what is your position about it?
[22:54] <whilo> i like debian very much, but lenny comes with 3.5.10 (for good reasons) so i'd think about using kubuntu for my home-on-nfs clients here
[22:55] <whilo> otherwise i could wait until 4.2.2 enters testing
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> whilo: i use kde apps but not kde itself, i always istall a lighter WM onto my system and use that in my session
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> whilo: ive noticed kde using a lot of ram as well which is why i dislike the desktop, as well as me not using widgets and all that graphical muck so its a waste to me
[22:57] <gigasoft> does anybody know shortcuts for switching between virtual desktops
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> whilo: if i boot kde 4.2.2 and amarok 2 I have about 30Mb left in my 1Gb RAM system which i find scandelous
[22:57] <gigasoft> in kubuntu
[22:57] <gigasoft> ?
[22:57] <whilo> ActionParsnip: ok, but i generally think that much of this stuff is not bad as long as the relation of ram usage and the functionality is not that bad
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> gigasoft: system settings -> keyboard and mose settings
[22:58] <whilo> it would be ok to give 300mb for a default desktop with semantic capabilities and effects running kopete and amarok in the tray and maybe up to 500 with some apps open...
[22:58] <gigasoft> thanks
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> gigasoft: global shortcuts -> kwin
[22:59] <gigasoft> ActionParsnip:
[22:59] <gigasoft> :)
[22:59] <gigasoft> thanks again
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> whilo: sounds ok, depends if yur system runs as you'd like
[22:59] <whilo> i generally like the idea of developping the whole DE in one project where features can be shared
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> gigasoft: np man, you have to set one
[22:59] <whilo> ActionParsnip: no it doesn't
[23:00] <whilo> i have ridiculously high memory usage
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> whilo: its not set here and i've never set one, so i called it as needing to be set
[23:00] <winston_> hello all
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> whilo: try a different DE, like fluxbox, LXDE, XFCE
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> !hi | winston_
[23:02] <whilo> ActionParsnip: Gnome is quite resource friendly for its level of integration (at least compared to KDE4 here)
[23:05] <jason_froebe> kde4 does have promise though of surpassing gnome :)
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> jason_froebe: how does one DE surpass another?
[23:08] <genii> Every different DE has it's advantages or disadvantages. It's like the !best factoid
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> my point exactly
[23:08] <jason_froebe> personally I think they leap frog over each other - borrowing ideas (good thing)
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> i think its a simple co-existance
[23:09] <jason_froebe> perhaps.. though not in isolation ;-)
[23:09] <genii> What desktop environment people prefer depends on how they like to work, what they use the computer for, what sort of visual metaphors and workflow patterns, etc etc
[23:10] <jason_froebe> 'tis a personal preference like genii says
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> indeed, so neither will surpass either
[23:11] <jason_froebe> I disagree.. this week desktop X will surpass desktop Y for feature ABC .. next week it will be desktop Z
[23:11] <jason_froebe> ;-)
[23:11] <jason_froebe> tongue firmly in cheek btw
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> jason_froebe: what about if i dont use feature ABC
[23:12] <jason_froebe> then it will be desktop Q ;-)
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> i use kde out of habit as its what ive used for the last howmany years
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> kde + lxde = gold
[23:14] <genii> I'm finding the kde3->kde4 transition painful atm. I'm actually running now the kde3 jaunty version
[23:15] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a way to change what each jack at the back of my computer does? Or do I have the have the mic and headset in the right holes? Like in Windows, you can change what each jack does when you plug something in. Does Kubuntu 8.10 have something like that?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> |PaperTiger|: i think thats a windows driver thing
[23:16] <|PaperTiger|> ActionParsnip, it's the RealTek thing. Is there anything like that in Kubuntu?
[23:16] <genii> Well, it depends on your soundcard driver... you can put driver options for instance in the /etc/modules or in modprobe
[23:16] <genii> But the driver has to have these options in it
[23:17] <|PaperTiger|> Ah, okay
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> |PaperTiger|: not sure, tbh, once you connect the speakers you can forget about them
[23:19] <|PaperTiger|> ActionParsnip, speakers are connected fine, but it's my headset I'm wondering about.
[23:20] <|PaperTiger|> ActionParsnip, found a solution... Speakers have headset and mic output on them :)
[23:20] <Naalul> in which channel can I get help setting up dmz with firewall?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> sweet, simple solution
[23:22] <|PaperTiger|> Sorted. Just need to plug the headset in when I NEED it, 'cos it turns the speaker output off, lol
[23:23] <|PaperTiger|> And I found a way to sort that already... Put the jack in slightly and it comes though both XD WOOP
[23:23] <|PaperTiger|> Next thing... How do I test the mic input?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> why would you want it from both?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> could use sound-recorder
[23:25] <|PaperTiger|> True. Good point & where is sound recorder?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> theres
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-sound-recorder
[23:28] <|PaperTiger|> lol
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> !find record
[23:28] <|PaperTiger|> That's out the question
[23:28] <|PaperTiger|> Just use Package Manager, yeah?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> |PaperTiger|: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/sound-recorder
[23:30] <|PaperTiger|> Thanks
[23:39] <Barridus> hi, anyone have any tips for gnome removal?  such as any package "keystones" that can be removed and cause a nice near-clean removal with a follow-up apt-get autoremove?
[23:40] <alid>  I need to ssh to a remote server without a password prompt. I set up RSA keys, cated that at the end of the list of authorized_keys on .ssh directory on the server, still it doesn't work. Here is the debugging info I get when I try to connect to the server: http://pastie.org/446670 Can anybody help me please?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> !purekde | Barridus
[23:41] <tsimpson> alid: use ssh-copy-id to copy the public-key over
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: fyi, gnome has a tonne of gnome deps if you use the repo version
[23:42] <alid> tsimpson: Do I need to remove the authorized_keys file from the server side first?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> sorry, firefox
[23:42] <tsimpson> alid: you can, but it shouldn't make a difference
[23:42] <Kasm279> ah, another problem
[23:42] <Barridus> ok thank you ActionParsnip.  brb :)
[23:44] <Kasm279> i installed the synaptics touchpad driver, but i cant find it in apps or in the   system settings :/
[23:45] <alid> tsimpson: It still asks me for password :(
[23:45] <Kasm279> wat does?
[23:45] <Kasm279> alid?
[23:46] <alid> Kasm279: SSH
[23:46] <Kasm279> wat?
[23:46] <tsimpson> it could be an issue with the ssh server then
[23:46] <Kasm279> as in be quiet?
[23:46] <Kasm279> oh
[23:46] <Kasm279> oops
[23:46] <alid> Kasm279: I am trying to force ssh not to ask for password whenever I'm to connect to a remote server.
[23:46] <tsimpson> alid: see if you can use ssh-copy-id to install the key on localhost, and see if "ssh localhost" asks for a password
[23:47] <Kasm279> ah
[23:47] <tsimpson> if it doesn't, then you know it's the remote server that has the issue
[23:47] <Kasm279> anyway,
[23:47] <Kasm279> i installed the synaptics touchpad driver, but i cant find it in apps or in the   system settings :/
[23:49] <alid> tsimpson: I did it and localhost didn't ask for password.
[23:49] <tsimpson> then it's some configuration issue on the remote side
[23:50] <alid> tsimpson: I know the remote machine is SunOS. Could it be the source of problem?
[23:50] <Kasm279> and also, where is the background image stored?
[23:51] <Cyclist2> Hello, there! can someone tell me how to apply 'Eye of GNOME' [also known simply as 'Image Viewer' in Gnome] to become my default Image Viewer [F-Spot Photo Viewer seems to be the default one and I cannot find 'Eye of GNOME' anywhere in the options menu]? I run Krusader on Gnome
[23:51] <tsimpson> alid: I don't know, but I would think it should work. you'd need to contact the administrator or the server and ask them
[23:52] <alid> Alright. Thank you tsimpson :)
[23:52] <Kasm279> Cyclist2: eye of gnome is located in root/usr/bin
[23:52] <tsimpson> Kasm279: user wallpapers are normally in ~/.kde/share/wallpapers/
[23:53] <Kasm279> .kde?
[23:53] <Kasm279> tsimpson?
[23:54] <Kasm279> does that mean root?
[23:54] <tsimpson> no
[23:54] <Kasm279> so .kde is in root?
[23:54] <jamesjedimaster> under your home directory
[23:54] <tsimpson> no ~/ == $HOME
[23:54] <Kasm279> oh
[23:55] <tsimpson> system wallpapers are in /usr/share/wallpapers though
[23:55] <Kasm279> ok, thats wat i was looking for
[23:56] <Kasm279> woah, kubuntu's wallpapers are much more complex than ubuntu's
[23:57] <Kasm279> and also
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Kasm279: you dont need root and shouldnt use root fdr security reasons
[23:57] <Kasm279> i installed the synaptics touchpad driver, but i cant find it in apps or in the   system settings :/
[23:58] <Kasm279> wat,  ActionParsnip?
[23:58] <blip-> if a package is in the unsupported section of my distros repos, after a while it moved to main.  During that time do packagers potentially make fixes to the deb package ?   If I update now to an unsupported package, lets see they make a change once it reaches main, will I then be able to get that "new" package to update my unsupported version.     KDE4.2 is the concerned package
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Kasm279: the root account is disabled by default in ubuntu for security reasons
[23:59] <Cyclist2> Kasm279, I can use it normally but I would prefer to have it as the default program to handle images; the problem is in that when I open the Open With Menu 'Eye of GNOME' is nowhere to be seen...; if I knew what to type in the empty box [top of menu] that should do it but I tried typing 'Eye of GNOME' and 'Image Viewer' and neither of those names is recognized by Krusader as the right name for the program...
[23:59] <blip-> i'm running kubuntu 8.10
[23:59] <blip-> .
[23:59] <tsimpson> ActionParsnip: he was refering to the root of the filesystem
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> tsimpson: just checking
[23:59] <Kasm279> woah, blue curl looks cool as konversation's background