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| geek1 | hi, this may sound dumb, but can someone tell me what the kernel is for? | 00:58 |
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| geek1 | hello? | 01:00 |
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| * nturner wonders where the linux-image-debug-2.6.27-11-generic package is hidden... | 02:24 | |
| dandel | 0o' last set of updates on jaunty just knocked out the windows based install i had ><; | 02:31 |
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| genady12lap | no one here? | 06:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kees, is it possible the package(s?) we were talking about a few day s ago will require linux-image-* meta packages to get rebuilt? eg, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image-386 has different versions for hardy and hardy-updates. all other releases have the same versions in the release and security pockets | 10:45 |
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| apw | smb_tp, this thread may be relevant to you for the press-a-key-to-boot bug: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg240281.html | 14:21 |
| smb_tp | apw, hm, interesting. thanks. | 14:22 |
| apw | no idea if its already in our kernel etc, just hit it by accident | 14:23 |
| smb_tp | I don't think is is disabled currently with our kernels | 14:24 |
| genady12lap_ | apw, ping | 14:40 |
| apw | genady12lap_, hi | 14:42 |
| genady12lap_ | hey | 14:43 |
| apw | smb_tp, reading that thread the wisdom seems to be 'you can use hpet=force' and things just work | 14:43 |
| genady12lap_ | I am having problem with speedstep | 14:43 |
| apw | genady12lap_, ok, what sort of problems, with what cpu | 14:43 |
| smb_tp | apw, that would imply hpet is not used somehow... hm, I have to get to that thread... later... | 14:44 |
| apw | smb_tp, there is an implication that it might not be for sure | 14:44 |
| smb_tp | apw, ok, definitely something to look at... thanks for the pointer | 14:45 |
| genady12lap_ | apw, bug 360192 | 14:46 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 360192 in linux "speedstep (cpufreq in PIII) not loaded in the kernel" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/360192 | 14:46 |
| apw | smb_tp, i happen to be looking at bugs which complain about issues with tickless and C!E in combination and that was Ingo's recommendation as a solution rathter than any other fix | 14:47 |
| smb_tp | apw, It would be interesting whether it is possible to check whether hpet is only partially active (or whatever the implications are) | 14:48 |
| apw | smb_tp, agree its not at all clear what is and is not being used | 14:48 |
| genady12lap_ | apw, what do you think? | 14:50 |
| apw | genady12lap_, i'd say its likely that its not enabled because it provides no benefit on cpu's which don't change voltage when they change frequency | 14:52 |
| genady12lap_ | but it worked some time ago | 14:53 |
| apw | some time ago? | 14:53 |
| genady12lap_ | I dont remember when, but it works now on windows | 14:53 |
| apw | there has been much debate on power saving, just because windows does something though is no indicator it is sensible | 14:54 |
| apw | if i remember the argument correctly, then if your cpu has C2 power saving mode, and CPU frequency but no CPU voltage scaling then there is exacly 0 benefit from changing the frequency | 14:54 |
| apw | as the benefit of going into C2 is exactly the same as it would be in the states inserted into the cpu to 'slow' it down | 14:55 |
| apw | ie. it will consume the same number of active cycles, its just the idle cycles are spread differently. | 14:55 |
| genady12lap_ | oh | 14:55 |
| apw | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/powernowd/+bug/177646 | 14:55 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 177646 in linux "Celeron M530, no frequence scaling" [Medium,Invalid] | 14:55 |
| apw | there is much write up on that bug in this area | 14:56 |
| genady12lap_ | apw, so what can I do to save more power? | 14:56 |
| apw | i assume you have used powertop and followed its advice | 14:57 |
| genady12lap_ | btw I tried the hibernation script and I have problems. (If you are the person who needs to hear them) | 14:58 |
| apw | suspend_test ? if so did it get you to file bugs? | 14:58 |
| genady12lap_ | the problem it wont resume automatically | 15:00 |
| genady12lap_ | and I should disable rt61pci module | 15:00 |
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| genady12lap_ | powertop is cool | 15:03 |
| apw | genady12lap_, make sure there is a bug filed which says that for sure | 15:19 |
| kees | Kamping_Kaiser: I'm not sure what you mean. | 15:51 |
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| manjo | I am seeing an issue where on suspend/resume after an AC power transition the ATA taskfile status register is set to 0xd0 (invalid value), any ideas ? | 16:51 |
| apw | smb_tp, was there a wake-on-lan bug hanging about, something to do with a bios setting to make it work | 16:56 |
| smb_tp | I do not remember a wol not working one. The one I looked at was rather _always_ working after an update | 16:57 |
| smb_tp | But ask for ehttool output, that should tell whether wol should be active from the drivers perspective | 16:58 |
| smb_tp | ethtool even | 16:58 |
| apw | smb_tp, thanks | 16:59 |
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| mdz | apw: do you want help writing that bugpattern for bug 359864, or is it not worth it at this point? I just noticed you marked another dupe | 18:58 |
| ubot3 | mdz: Error: Could not parse data returned by Malone: The read operation timed out | 18:58 |
| mdz | apw: er, 352178 | 18:58 |
| apw | so far we don't have a huge pile of dups for it, i believe apport is now going off so i suspect its a non-issue | 18:59 |
| apw | though it would be useful to learn that skill for sure | 18:59 |
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| awe | apw: ping | 20:10 |
| apw | awe hi | 20:11 |
| awe | thanks for the debugging tip. looks like it's a panic in the uvcvideo driver's suspend function | 20:12 |
| apw | very nice | 20:12 |
| awe | apw: how do i get a copy of the stack trace to add to the bug? | 20:12 |
| apw | did you get the whole stack? | 20:12 |
| apw | normally we take a photo | 20:12 |
| apw | if the top of the panic is missing there is a setfont command on that page which can make the page longer | 20:12 |
| apw | then get a photo | 20:12 |
| awe | apw: modern tech @ it's best eh? | 20:13 |
| apw | sadly yes | 20:13 |
| awe | apw: i see Call Trace: so I think that's the top | 20:13 |
| apw | you can use a usb setrial dongle, and another one, and a cross over | 20:13 |
| apw | call trace is normally a few lines down, whats the first | 20:13 |
| apw | but get a photo off that one regardless, and then redo it with the other font | 20:13 |
| awe | ok | 20:14 |
| manjo | apw, I think I found a work around to the suspend resume causing ATA errors on the samsung NC10 finally | 20:52 |
| awe | apw: no setfont command found... it's either not part of 8.04, or was removed from the core netbook derivative | 21:01 |
| smb_tp | awe, For Hardy the magic runes are: consolechars -f /usr/share/consolefonts/Uni1-VGA8.psf.gz | 21:03 |
| awe | smb_tp: thanks! | 21:05 |
| awe | smb_tp: when i run that command i get: set_kernel_font: Invalid argument | 21:08 |
| smb_tp | awe, did you run it on a text console? | 21:09 |
| * awe feels dumb | 21:10 | |
| awe | i just opened a gnome-terminal | 21:10 |
| smb_tp | Yeah, unfortunately it won't work there. :) | 21:11 |
| awe | smb_tp: ok, i think i know how to do it now... i need to switch to a virtual console right? | 21:19 |
| smb_tp | awe, Oops, sorry I thought you found out. Err, yeah, best use vt1 for that | 21:20 |
| cody-somerville | sconklin, Hi. I was wondering if there was any progress on bug #352615? | 21:36 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 352615 in linux "Please provide squashfs-modules udeb" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352615 | 21:36 |
| sconklin | cody-somerville: no, I have had more urgent bugs, and won't be able to look at that one this week | 21:37 |
| awe | smb_tp: so i managed to change the font, and when i hit the crash now, i get gibberish...looks like i get the top 40% of each line, and then it's overwritten by the line below it. | 21:41 |
| smb_tp | awe, Hm, strange. Would ls and stuff work correctly after changing the font? For me here it is working ok (normal use without a crash) | 21:43 |
| awe | hmmm... i know what i did. i switched back to the normal ui. duh. lemme try again. | 21:44 |
| smb_tp | Though even that works here on my laptop | 21:45 |
| awe | yea, but this is dennis the menace. ;) | 21:46 |
| smb_tp | heh :) | 21:46 |
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