=== Martinp23 is now known as martinip23 === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [08:42] hi [08:43] is the RegionalBoards-AsiaOceania schedule for today? I can't see it on the fridge [08:44] BUGabundo, That's what the wiki page says. If enough people are here, it will start in about 196 minutes. [08:45] thanks persia [08:50] asac: its just you I think! mine is working [08:50] 1.0.2~bzr294-0ubuntu1~daily1 [08:55] oops wrong channel. sorry === Ash_R_Is_Great is now known as Ash_R [10:02] help [10:03] ! ask | shyam2 [10:03] shyam2: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [10:04] msg nickserv identify rattlesnake [10:05] shyam2: nice to know your password [10:05] heheh [10:05] new to irc [10:05] so is there any way to change that [10:05] don't do that in a channel for starters? [10:06] oh [10:06] @.@ [10:07] shyam2: please type: /join #help [10:13] so i changed my pass [10:13] shyam2: great [10:14] so i'm in the rite place for today's meeting ?? [10:17] shyam2: if it happens, sure! [10:17] applying for membership too ? [10:17] heheh [10:17] yup [10:17] lets see how it goes. [10:22] awaits nervously... :-D [10:23] whats there for nervousness ?? [10:25] He he... also applying for membership too... [10:28] do you thing thats a big deal ?? [10:28] i mean [10:28] who's the head for approving the ppl like us. [10:31] I'm yet to find out! [10:33] Hi all [10:33] Hi MaWaLe [10:33] hi Rochdi [10:33] Hi bizkut [10:34] G'day... [10:35] humm guud day [10:35] hi everyone [10:35] hi Rochdi [10:36] one said "Quorum or not Quorum !!! That's THE question !!" [10:36] please guys : keep the log clean [10:36] the meeting is @10UTC [10:36] hi BUGabundo VK7HSE-Eee shyam2 [10:37] 24 minutes to go [10:37] so you want the answer for Quorum [10:38] shyam2: don't answer 42 :p [10:38] why?? [10:39] guys, please calm down! take all that extra energy to #ubuntu-offtopic, ok? [10:41] +1 BUGabundo [10:42] shyam2: its a council [10:42] ok fine [10:43] hello MaWaLe, nizarus, Rochdi :) [10:44] I am here to support MaWaLe, éééhhhhaaaaaaaa :) [10:44] hi RachedTN [10:44] :P [10:44] please keep the log clean [10:44] oky doky :) [10:44] no offtopic here : thanks [10:45] ya [10:53] guyz is the group alive?? [10:54] shyam2: yes it is. this channel is for meetings. look here to know about next meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar [10:55] yes i know about that [10:55] but no one is talking [10:55] because there is no meeting right now :) [10:56] shyam2: we are saving our energy, just 5 mn and you'll see how much we will talk :) [10:56] ya [10:56] i'll wait [10:56] shyam2: here they come :) [10:56] wb TheMuso [10:57] e-jat: I never idle in here, but thanks all the same. :p [10:57] hopefully not all at once. [10:57] :) [10:57] yea [10:59] hi elky :) [11:00] * persia peers about [11:00] * MaWaLe following persia [11:02] Hmmm... No amachu yet. [11:02] hi persia, [11:02] hey hito_jp [11:03] hi persia, TheMuso, lifeless, elky [11:04] hi ppl === martinip23 is now known as Martinp23 [11:05] * BUGabundo_mibbit waits [11:07] hi [11:07] Hrm. Still no amachu. Shall we start anyway? lifeless, you still about? [11:09] persia, we have an awful lot to get through tonight, i think he'd want us to start [11:09] RIght. [11:09] elky, You want to chair? [11:10] persia, i'm eating as we do this, so probably not best [11:11] OK. TheMuso? [11:11] Also, word is that amachu is having a power outage, and will be with us as soon as is practicable. [11:12] and i have atrocious lag [11:12] Well, if we don't have to use MootBot or such, I don't mind attempting to chair. [11:12] No need to use MootBot :) [11:12] ok then [11:12] :) [11:12] Lets get started. [11:12] MaWaLe: It appears you're first up, so could you please tell us a bit about yourself, and what involvement you have in the Ubuntu community etc? [11:13] thanks TheMuso [11:13] so my name is Wajih [11:13] All other prospective members, please have a blurb ready so we can get through things as quickly as possible. [11:13] i'm tunisian people [11:13] i applied previously on this RB [11:13] for the first time it was a +0 vote [11:13] * TheMuso remembers you. [11:13] because i haven' enough community visibility (pro intervention) [11:13] i also remember [11:14] I'll back in 30 minutes(for supper) [11:14] so as mentioned on my personal wiki page : i'm the events group coordinator of our Tunisian LoCo team [11:15] i try to do my best to promote Ubuntu with supervising and taking part in events [11:15] I'm here to support MaWaLe for membership, he is awsome :) [11:15] i also try to contribute in launchpad and also be present in IRC channels [11:16] i have to give a special thanks to persia who helps me a lot to perfect my wiki page [11:16] also amachu who revue it [11:16] and all the RB members here present [11:16] MaWaLe, When you last applied, there was some considerable discussion, and other effects within the Tunisian team. Has that been resolved yet? [11:16] if you have some questions? [11:17] yes [11:17] our LoCo had a meeting with the loco council [11:17] and the issue is resolved [11:17] persia: i'm the loco contact of the tunisian team and i confirm that the loco council closed that issue [11:17] even the misunderstanding on my wiki page was resolved [11:17] I was present in taht discussion and I confirm too [11:18] nizarus, Thanks for the confirmation. [11:18] MaWaLe: still working with the loco and the other member leaved [11:18] MaWaLe: How did the event held on the 4th of April turn out? [11:19] hi [11:19] it was a greatful success [11:19] Its an amachu! :) [11:19] I'm an Ubuntu-tn member & I'm here to support MaWaLe [11:19] i am not convinced it is [11:19] we also have a ffedback from peoples who was present [11:19] I work with this team since 4 months and everythings [11:19] TheMuso: hey! [11:19] is ok & I m pleased to work with this team [11:19] they also prepare a report for the event that we hope to publish ont he next UNW [11:20] MaWaLe: Awesome. [11:20] I'm an Ubuntu-tn member & I'm here to support MaWaLe [11:21] i am no longer concerned about your wikipage. the RMB received some correspondence this week, and it has me personally unsure of the resolution. [11:21] elky : even nizarus was present and you can ask him for this event [11:21] I'm a ubuntu-tn member and I'm here to support MaWaLe too. his one of the most active member in our LoCo [11:21] the report of the 4th April : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/En/EventISETSBZ9.04Reporting [11:21] here is a summary of our events : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Events , there is english reports too that with photos that can show you how successful our event were :) [11:22] elky : sorry for asking but what correspondence [11:22] elky: RMB, I'm guessing is a membership board, but which one? [11:22] the issue with Rafik was closed by the LoCo council [11:22] MaWaLe participate in most our events and coordinate them [11:22] and all loco members here can confirm my sayings [11:22] TheMuso, this RMB [11:22] elky : take a look on the photos and you'll see :) [11:22] It was a great success, I'd pleasure to prepare and this event =) [11:22] elky_: ok [11:23] MaWaLe : he's the man, he is always present :) [11:23] +1 RachedTN [11:24] +1 RachedTN [11:24] +1 from me too [11:24] :) [11:24] elky_: MaWaLe: still working with the loco and the other member leaved that was the situation after the loco council meeting [11:25] in that meeting even popey and boredandblogging was present [11:25] indeed we were [11:25] I have the log of that discussion, bordenblogging was there and he can confirm you that later :) [11:25] hi popey :) [11:25] thx popey for confirming [11:26] elky: persia: would like to take up voting? [11:27] Sure, we can vote. [11:27] I'm not sure there are lots more questions to ask. [11:28] Personally, I'm uncertain. The form of the wiki page is fine. The previous conflict, and the accusations made make me uncomfortable regarding the letter of the CoC. [11:28] I think elky_ still has concerns about something... [11:28] i have just spoken with popey [11:28] and i am not convinced that the issues we are referring to are the same [11:29] i am voting -1 to mawale [11:30] rest? [11:30] I have the log of the discussion , i will be please to give it to anyone who need it to confirm that MaWaLe i the best, he rocks :) [11:31] RachedTN: do you have a wiki page for you? [11:31] I'm +0. [11:31] elky_: I respect your vote. but I think that MaWaLe deserve to be a ubuntu member [11:31] ALAYA, i do not think that any amount of contribution excuses the breaking of the Code of Conduct. [11:31] here my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Zied_ALAYA [11:32] Since I don't keep up with loco activity, and since I'm not really aware of these goings on, I can only go on the info I am presented with here. The wikipage is fine, and the testimonials seem fine, but the lingering doubt and confusion about goings on with the loco make me unsure, so +0. [11:32] breaking of the code of conduct ???? [11:32] how? [11:32] +1 elky_ [11:32] lifeless: TheMuso ? [11:32] MaWaLe, this is not the place to discuss it [11:32] but MaWaLe didnt [11:32] amachu: just voted, see my comments. [11:32] saw that [11:32] ALAYA, i am not convinced, and hence i cannot with good conscience vote him in [11:33] just a minute [11:33] elky_: as I say: I respect your vote [11:35] can I present now ? [11:35] BUGabundo, not yet [11:35] BUGabundo, Not yet. There's a few people ahead of you on the list. [11:35] elky_: ok [11:36] MaWaLe: I couldn't immedietly recollect who started words against you.. was it nizarus ? [11:37] http://pastebin.com/m66e0b749 : here is the log of the discussion, you can see it, an here is my launchpad account : https://edge.launchpad.net/~rached-aleya [11:37] nizarus : never [11:37] amachu: i'm supporting MaWaLe, i'm not against him [11:37] amachu: no. nizarus ALAYA RachedTN zaafouri CRELOUR Rochdi are all here to support MaWaLe [11:37] amachu: the only one was Rafik [11:38] and rafik started words about all the LoCo team [11:38] not only me [11:38] MaWaLe: yes. thanks [11:38] got it [11:38] it's all written in the log, you can see it yourself :) [11:38] nizarus: sorry, that was just a second of poor memory [11:38] we totally support MaWaLe :) [11:38] So, let's set this aside for now, and we can all discuss over the next while. [11:39] amachu: we are 2 then :D [11:39] There's other candidates, who ought be reviewed. [11:39] MaWaLe: you have shown patience and perseverance, throughout. I would give you +1 for all that. [11:39] indeed, and some of us are hoping for bed before next year ;) [11:39] persia: MaWaLe is waiting since december :/ [11:39] persia: can i only ask for the reason of all this delay please [11:40] backed up with your own team members like nizarus [11:40] thanks amachu [11:40] and we are also waiting with him since december [11:40] nizarus, And with the current voting of one against, and two abstaining, isn't going to be confirmed for membership today. [11:40] but with only me giving +1 and two abstaining [11:40] amachu, Even then. [11:40] doesn't help you for today [11:41] ok, who's next? [11:41] persia: yep. we shall proceed [11:41] adityag is not here? me? [11:41] aditya [11:42] hito_jp: looks that way [11:42] hito_jp, appears so [11:42] okay, Im Fumihito YOSHIDA, stay in Japan. Im ubuntu-jp(Japanese) LoCo members, and root of two japanese mirror servers that include ubuntutym.u-toyama.ac.jp(include jp.archive.ubuntu.com). [11:42] Also, I worked in supporting user at local forum(http:forum.ubuntulinux.jp) and some events, writing technical articles on Japanese {,Web} Magazines as LoCo members. [11:43] Please check my Wikipage. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FumihitoYoshida [11:43] hito_jp, you also give talks? [11:43] what mean "talks"? ( sry for my poorly english) [11:44] Presentations. [11:44] hito_jp, you speak to groups [11:46] I planed to make a contribution, to push some features and arts came from in Japanese, for example, "TOMOYO Linux", "Ubunchu" and so on. [11:46] "Ubunchu" is Japanese Ubuntu 'manga'(comic) that wrote by Hiroshi SEO, We(ubuntu-us-ma and ubuntu-jp) collaborate this translation. see also: http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/ubunchu-the-ubuntu-manga-is-now-in-english/ [11:46] hito_jp, you're the ubunchu writer? [11:46] No, [11:47] amachu: I am here [11:47] Original author is "SEO Hiroshi"(seotch). [11:47] "SEO" is japanese familiy name, not search engine optimize;) [11:47] lifeless: may be a bit late. you vote on MaWaLe ? [11:48] I am reading now [11:48] lets keep it later [11:48] let hito_jp continue [11:48] Okay, but...i said "if you have some questions?" [11:48] ok, moving on then, hito_jp. You do some translations? [11:49] Yes, I worked as translator. [11:49] it called "Eng*r*ish";) [11:50] i've asked all my questions [11:50] none from me. [11:50] hito_jp: How long have you been with ubuntu japanese team? [11:51] about two years. [11:51] I'm +1 [11:51] between the presentations, articles, mirror admin'ing translations, bugs and loco work, i'm +1 [11:51] +1 [11:51] * persia has no questions for hito_jp, only unreserved support +1 [11:52] and anyone here other than persia for your support? [11:52] im +1 [11:52] e-jat: ? [11:53] Thank you quorums, and e-jat;) [11:53] amachu: sorry, jkbys (Japanese LoCo leader) has absence. [11:54] hito_jp: thats fine. +1 from me too. keep up the good work [11:54] lifeless: do you have any thing to say on MaWaLe [11:56] + for hito_jp [11:56] :) [11:56] lifeless: any comments? [11:56] amachu: -0.5 for MaWaLe sorry [11:56] +1 for hito_jp [11:57] lifeless: ok [11:57] Thanks, BuffaloSoldier. [11:57] thanks for all [11:57] just before leaving can i ask elky for a private meeting to discuss the break of CoC? [11:57] Khanh_coltech isn't here [11:58] jomlinux ? [11:58] linuxmalaysia? [11:58] GunbladeIV: are you there ? [11:58] amachu, linuxmalaysia cant make it today as he has important meeting on current moment [11:59] amachu, yup, im here [11:59] jomlinux can;t make it i think [11:59] amachu: linuxmalaysia just left .. he got urgent meeting regarding OSS issue [11:59] GunbladeIV: is here .. [11:59] go go GunbladeIV [11:59] GunbladeIV: Please go ahead [11:59] Hello, my name is Mohd Faizul Zulkipli. I'm 25 years old and I'm a student in local polytechnic institute. I managed to join ubuntu-my loco team on early 2007 where i was appointed to take charge as one of the web team members. I'm a supporter for free and open source software(FOSS). Actively involved in educating and promoting the usage of FOSS especially Ubuntu to students and lecturers in Universities and Polytechnics. [11:59] I had tried once to be an official ubuntu members on 1st July 2008 but received +0 votes from the council and were asked to come again due to no sustainable contribution. [11:59] * nbliang go GunbladeIV [11:59] My contribution for my loco team is currently based on web service such as maintaining and updating current loco websites. I also actively promoting Ubuntu to my lecturers and student here in Polytechnic Sultan Idris Shah(Sabak Bernam, Malaysia). [12:00] I help my lecturers on basic knowledge of installing ubuntu and using Open Office on 4th April 2009 and make it look like a workshop. Picture will be added on my wiki as soon as i received pictures from my lecturer. Council can view all my contribution on my wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gunbladeiv and my launchpad profile at http://launchpad.net/~gunbladeiv [12:00] MaWaLe, not necessarily a meeting, but we can discuss if you email ubuntu-membership-board-asia-oceania@lists.ubuntu.com [12:00] i just finish paste my intro text, any question i'm more than happy to answer [12:01] hello :) [12:01] welcome khanh_coltech [12:01] im late? [12:01] khanh_coltech, you'll have to wait until after GunbladeIV now [12:01] khanh_coltech: wait for a while [12:01] thanks elky for the reply : i'll do it [12:02] GunbladeIV, I notice you were doing a number of translations up until about three weeks ago. What changed? [12:02] persia, i'm having a load of workload right now. I need to finish my Final Year project to gain my diploma. I'll continue translation after i have a bit of time. [12:03] s/load/lot [12:03] persia, plus i need to present my Final Project in two weeks from now [12:04] Fair enough :) I was just curious if it was "I'm done with that" or "I'm too busy, and will get back to it soon", and am glad to hear it's the latter. [12:04] maybe u may continue the translation after your final project right [12:04] e-jat, sure [12:05] +1 [12:05] to add to that, GunbladeIV is very active in the loco activities [12:05] persia: even GunbladeIV bz with his FYP ... he still contribute to loco especially our portal n wiki [12:05] I remember you from before [12:05] yep +1 from me too [12:05] +1 [12:05] I'm both satisfied and happy. Nice work since you you last applied. [12:05] +1 [12:05] thanks elky , e-jat and nbliang [12:05] i'm here to support GunbladeIV as well [12:06] GunbladeIV: are there people from your team here? [12:06] thanks persia [12:06] +1 for our LoCo member [12:06] :) [12:06] amachu, yup.. they are e-jat , BuffaloSoldier , nbliang [12:06] * nbliang +1 to our member [12:06] amachu, bizkut is here too [12:06] +1 for GunbladeIV [12:06] +1 for GunbladeIV [12:06] okie.. sounds good for me [12:06] +1 for GunbladeIV. Welcome [12:07] * nbliang Yippie for GunbladeIV [12:07] thanks quorums and all ubuntu-my members [12:07] +1 GunbladeIV [12:07] go go GunbladeIV !! [12:07] just for the record, as I've got to leave for breakfast: I'd like to show my support for BUGabundo, I remember him as a very active bugsquad member :-) [12:07] +1 GunbladeIV [12:08] afflux, So noted. Thanks. [12:08] afflux: thanks! [12:09] khanh_coltech: are you there? [12:09] yes :) [12:09] Please go ahead [12:09] time to introduce yourself [12:10] i am Phan Trọng Khanh :) [12:10] come from ubuntu-vn (Ubuntu Việt Nam) [12:11] i am administrator of Ubuntu-VN website [12:12] khanh_coltech, what parts of the website? [12:12] * lidaobing back just now [12:12] elky_: forum and wiki [12:12] khanh_coltech, as well as the main website? [12:13] elky_: yes [12:13] khanh_coltech, what about things on launchpad. what do you do there? [12:14] elky_: I contrib to Ubuntu by translate in launchpad and improve Ubuntu Vietnamese Community [12:15] khanh_coltech, do you have any other people from the vietnamese team here today? [12:16] elky_: yes [12:16] Cation_H: [12:16] khanh_coltech: the wiki misses comments, testimonials [12:17] Cation_H: any feedback on khanh_coltech [12:17] Cation_H, would you like to say something about khanh_coltech? [12:19] khanh_coltech: ubuntu-vietnam is yet to become an approved team? [12:19] amachu1: yes [12:19] elky_: he is great [12:19] Cation_H: =)) [12:19] khanh_coltech, do you do other things, like presentations, or expos [12:19] Cation_H: are you a ubuntu member? [12:20] lifeless: yes, I'm trying to help ubuntu newbie. [12:20] elky_: no, i only translate ubuntu in lanchpad and improve Ubuntu-VN [12:20] Cation_H: thanks, just curious :) [12:20] khanh_coltech, who is contact for ubuntu-vn? [12:21] Cation_H: you have your wiki page? [12:21] amachu1: no, I don't [12:22] elky_: me :) [12:22] amachu1: but I'm taking part in writing ubunt-vn wiki [12:22] elky_: ubuntu-vn is found by Bùi Sỹ Phong [12:23] well, I would give +0 at this time for khanh_coltech [12:23] elky https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-vn/+members [12:23] persia: comments? [12:23] khanh_coltech is a admin in that team [12:23] TheMuso: comments feedback [12:24] which means in-team confidence [12:24] amachu1, i agree. I'd like to see better documentation and supporting comments from other -vn people first [12:24] +0 also. The wiki page lacks testimonials and more detail about the work you do would be nice [12:24] I'm +1 [12:24] khanh_coltech, you're doing good, we just want documentation! [12:24] because I've nosed around ubuntu-vn.org, which looks well maintained [12:24] khanh_coltech: more clarity on the wiki [12:25] lifeless: yes.. that looks good [12:25] I'm +1. I'm happy with the work I've seen both now, and from previous interactions. More documentation would be good, but I've seen enough in other traffic. [12:25] may be may be, if Cation_H could have given more info about him, it would have helped me giving +1 [12:26] thanks: persia, lifeless [12:26] persia, is that a recommendation as well? [12:27] elky, No. I've seen enough to overcome a desire for documentation, but not worked closely enough to provide a recommendation on my own behalf. [12:27] excuse me, i vote for my friend bizkut, because he looks very helpful & handsome... bye [12:27] elky_: thinking of changing stance? I stick to +0 [12:28] amachu1, if i could have seen more cheering, i'd have voted differently [12:28] khanh_coltech, Put together the documentation, and you're in good shape for next time. [12:29] amachu1: our community have some articles in the local magazines to introduce about ubuntu [12:30] I'll have to leave in a few minutes for lunch! I'll try to come back later, if the meeting is still going on. Sorry [12:31] amachu1: but the documentation in the wiki does not help much [12:31] okie. khanh_coltech: best wishes. you are doing good job [12:31] Cation_H, we're looking for things specific to khanh_coltech [12:31] amachu1: because all the people go to forum to ask [12:31] Cation_H, we want a better profile of khanh_coltech, we want to know more about him [12:32] keep up the good work.. [12:32] hoping to see you back soon [12:32] elky_: he is learning at College of Technology, Vietnam National University, Hanoi [12:32] Cation_H: ok. [12:32] Cation_H, Telling us now isn't helpful: it belongs on the wiki page. [12:32] Cation_H, not now, on the wiki, next time we meet [12:33] melayubuntu ? [12:33] amachu1, melayubuntu is here [12:33] amachu1: melayubuntu reconnect [12:33] melayubuntu is restarting his X-Chat [12:33]