[14:07] <BUGabundo1> {"remaining_hits":0,"hourly_limit":100,"reset_time":"Tue Apr 14 13:10:34 +0000 2009","reset_time_in_seconds":1239714634}
[14:07] <gnomefreak> at install helps :)
[14:08] <BUGabundo1> hum ?
[14:08] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo1: had to install curl i was using apt-get curl :(
[14:08] <gnomefreak> i get same output
[14:12] <gnomefreak>  i get this feeling im forgetting something
[14:14] <asac> hjmf: cu
[14:18] <gnomefreak> oh crap
[14:18] <gnomefreak> im using 0.8
[14:19] <asac> heh
[14:19] <asac> thats a solid release
[14:19] <gnomefreak> forgot to enable the gwibber repos solid but still twitter is broken ;)
[14:20] <gnomefreak> ok updating to daily now. I will screw with it more when i get home this afternoon. I still have to figure out where i went wrong in SM
[14:21] <asac> gnomefreak: use the gwibber team ppa
[14:21] <gnomefreak> i am
[14:21] <gnomefreak> i think
[14:21] <asac> well that has 0.9.2
[14:21] <asac> and not 0.8
[14:22] <gnomefreak> nope daily im using i dont have team repos i dont think
[14:23] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo1: what version do you have installed
[14:24] <gnomefreak> from your april 12th comment you are not current
[14:24] <gnomefreak> 1.0.2~bzr294-0ubuntu1~daily1 is up to date daily
[14:24] <gnomefreak> dch -r
[14:24] <gnomefreak> damnit
[14:27] <gnomefreak> ok im gone i have to leave in a gfew minutes and havent started to get ready yet
[14:28] <BUGabundo1> gnomefreak: 1.0.2~bzr294-0ubuntu1~daily1
[14:29] <fta2> asac, saw your merge request, good i didn't push that 0.9.2 to universe ;)
[14:33] <asac> fta2: hehe ;)
[14:33] <asac> i dont think we want to bump for jaunty
[14:34] <asac> thats karmic. gwibber folks were just too late
[14:42] <fta2> asac, hmm, does twitter work in jaunty? (0.8.*)
[14:42] <BUGabundo1> fta define work!
[14:43] <fta2> donno, i'm not using twitter at all but people seem too be complaining about broken twibber with gwibber from universe
[14:43] <fta2> -too+to
[14:44] <BUGabundo1> daily ppa is working me, other then the 400 errors due to throtelling
[14:44] <BUGabundo1> some users are getting caught on GKD, but I didn't, don't know why
[15:06] <jcastro> fta2: twitter changed something, there is a patch in trunk that fixes it
[15:22] <asac> not sure what is supposed to be broken, but 0.9.2 works here with twitter
[15:22] <asac> and 0.8 as well iirc
[15:22] <asac> let me downgrade again
[15:33] <BUGabundo1> can I just copy my urlclassifier3.sqlite from one profile to the other?
[15:33] <BUGabundo1> I created a new 3.6 profile, but miss my 3.5 history
[15:48] <asac> BUGabundo1: given that the new profile is new and risk of losing things is low, just copy it
[15:49] <BUGabundo1> okay
[15:49] <BUGabundo1> will do, when I close both
[15:49] <BUGabundo1> anything else? places.sqlite, maybe?
[15:49] <BUGabundo1> I used xmarks (ex-foxmarks) to import bookmarks and pass
[15:49] <BUGabundo1> but history didn't came
[15:50] <asac> BUGabundo1: places.sqlite
[15:50] <asac> yes
[15:50] <asac> thats where the bookmarks and history are
[15:51] <BUGabundo1> isn't it urlclass?
[16:49] <asac> BUGabundo1: is there a bug for twitter/gwibber open?
[16:51] <BUGabundo1> which one?
[16:51] <BUGabundo1> there are so many
[16:53] <asac> BUGabundo1: nevermind
[16:53] <asac> ;)
[16:54] <BUGabundo1> asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/360468 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/359885
[16:54] <BUGabundo1> this are the most active right now
[17:09] <BUGabundo1> asac: what is "martion source" ?
[17:11] <asac> martian?
[17:11] <BUGabundo1> yes
[17:11] <BUGabundo1> typo
[17:11] <BUGabundo1> on #ubuntu+1
[17:11] <BUGabundo1> user is getting that on the syslogs
[17:12] <asac> BUGabundo1: if you say something comes from martian source it means (afaik) that something happens magically without knowing the source
[17:12] <BUGabundo1> ahh
[17:12] <asac> BUGabundo1: for PCI events?
[17:12] <BUGabundo1> NM I think
[17:12] <asac> BUGabundo1: please paste syslog. cannot find it on the other channel that quick
[17:12] <BUGabundo1> he rebooted to 8.10 to check
[17:13] <asac> only place i think to remember that message was interrupts
[17:13] <asac> martian means that there are interrupts the kernel cannot associate with anything (e.g. buggy bios)
[17:14] <BUGabundo1> asac: read "hwm" comments on +1
[17:15] <asac> yeah
[17:15] <BUGabundo1>  hmw: how can i share a internet connection (hsdpa) with other pcs on my lan? my usually working script (route, forwarding, iptables, dhcpd) wont work with ubuntu. Syslog reports "martian source". This is my "router" script: http://pastebin.com/f22c41762
[17:15] <asac> unlikely to be martian source
[17:15] <asac> anyway. that script looks not-compatible with anything NM wants
[17:15] <asac> nm automatically sets up the iptables rules
[17:15] <asac> so better not do anything manually
[17:16] <BUGabundo1> can't wait to see if nm0.8 has an easy way to share wireless networks via other connections
[17:16] <BUGabundo1> and not default to wired as 0.7 does
[17:16] <BUGabundo1> "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/log_martians          # Log packets with impossible addresses"
[17:21] <asac> BUGabundo1: heh right
[17:21] <asac> thats a firewall rule
[17:22] <asac> yeah. i would think its his router script
[17:22] <asac> he should dump that in the river
[17:22] <asac> or not use NM
[17:30] <BUGabundo1> ehh
[17:37] <bdmurray> asac: Is there any chance of getting bug 359382 fixed?
[17:49] <armin76> sigh...
[18:03] <asac> bdmurray: kind of late
[18:04] <asac> bdmurray: let me check
[18:04] <bdmurray> asac: so maybe talking to somone about a redirect is best?
[18:05] <asac> bdmurray: redirect would also cure all the old releases
[18:05] <asac> so i think its a good idea to do that in anycase
[18:09] <fta2> asac, is it still possible to send fixes to universe? i introduced a regression in ia32-libs :( bug 360870
[18:10] <asac> fta2: keep the change minimal, attach planned debdiff and subscribe motu-release to get an ack
[18:11] <asac> fta2: also set bug to in progress, assign to you and bump importance to something != undecided ;)
[18:12] <fta2> k
[18:35] <BUGabundo1> fta isn't 3.5 be in universe??
[18:37] <asac> BUGabundo1: it is
[18:37] <BUGabundo1>         500 ftp://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages
[18:37] <BUGabundo1> there it is
[18:37] <BUGabundo1> the other day I didn't find it :(
[18:43] <BUGabundo1> fta just got a bunch of new user for 3.5 on +1 eheh
[18:43] <BUGabundo1> I still wonder where you got those stats of users for ff and chrome
[18:45] <asac> BUGabundo1: popcon
[18:45] <asac> popcon.ubuntu.com
[18:47] <asac> fta2: fyi: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.1.jaunty + https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.1.jaunty
[18:52] <BUGabundo1> ahh
[18:54] <hjmf> I'm back
 hjmf: can you also port the patch for the other branches we have?
[18:54] <hjmf> asac: I'm going to do it right now.
[18:54] <hjmf> If I do remember right first I have to branch those branches
[18:54] <hjmf> merge
[18:54] <hjmf> change things
[18:55] <hjmf> commit
[18:55] <hjmf> and finally push?
[18:55] <hjmf> ? right
[18:56] <asac> hjmf: 1. pull branch; 2. change and edit changelog; 3. debcommit; bzr push lp:~USERID/project/lpBUGID
[18:56] <hjmf> hmmm, things changed a bit...
[18:56] <asac> then you request a merge by going to that branch on LP and clicking "request merge"
[18:56] <asac> hjmf: hehe. yeah. debcommit is quite nice ;)
[18:57] <hjmf> any manual? never mind I'll search for it :-)
[18:57] <asac> hjmf: its just debcommit
[18:57] <hjmf> OK
[18:57] <asac> hjmf: or debcommit -e if you want to edit the suggested commit msg
[18:58] <asac> hjmf: if you commit it in two steps (e.g. first, just change the pluginreg.dat fix) and second: cleanup), we can cherry pick the change to the stable branches
[18:58] <asac> (only relevant for firefox-3.0.head and maybe firefox-3.1.head)
[18:59] <hjmf> no problem, I'll do in two steps
[18:59] <asac> hjmf: look in changelog how to give you credits in an existing changelog
[18:59] <asac> if you dont know ;)
[18:59] <asac> like [ ... ]
[19:00] <hjmf> Maybe that's the only thing that seems to be as I remember
[19:00] <asac> :-P
[19:01] <hjmf> :-)
[19:05] <asac> fta2: didnt you say you had daily bzr branches somewhere?
[19:06] <asac> e.g. so one can just branch and work on build failures
[19:06] <asac> getting right orig and stuff from ppa
[19:06] <asac> ah cool. found them
[19:08] <asac> fta2: hmm. maybe we can keep only one commit on top of what we have in .head on that branch?
[19:08] <asac> that would make it easy to just pull that, fix it and push to .head
[19:08] <asac> without getting many commits
[19:10]  * hjmf is off for a while
[19:28] <BUGabundo1> fta or asac when will 3.6 be renamed Namoroka ?
[19:29] <asac> as soon as there is a branch for it upstream
[19:31] <BUGabundo1> ok
[19:31] <BUGabundo1> nice to know
[19:35] <fta> BUGabundo1, it's unlikely to happen before 3.5 final gets released. minefield means trunk and will always means trunk
[19:38] <BUGabundo1> ok
[19:38] <BUGabundo1> so its not like debian sid
[19:38] <BUGabundo1> or jaunty
[19:38] <BUGabundo1> stupid question: why not just call it TRUNK?
[19:40] <asac> sounds too harmless
[19:40] <asac> minefield describes it best ;)
[19:40] <BUGabundo1> eheh
[19:40] <BUGabundo1> time to go
[19:43] <fta> asac, what about gwibber & rev50?
[19:43] <fta> lack of context
[19:44] <asac> fta: cutting a stable branch for jaunty
[19:44] <asac> fta: kenvadine backported two patches ... he landed them now on top of revision 50
[19:45] <asac> so we can get it in (either directly or as SRU)
[19:45] <asac> fta: he will probably request a merge soon. i wanted to poke it a bit more
[19:45] <asac_the_bumber> !info sqlite jaunty
[19:45] <asac_the_bumber> !info sqlite3 jaunty
[19:45] <asac_the_bumber> !info sqlite3 koala
[19:45] <asac> fta: will you create that "stable maintenance" branch ?
[19:45] <asac> (so he has a merge target)
[19:45] <asac_the_bumber> bah
[19:45] <asac> like gwibber.jaunty
[19:46] <asac_the_bumber> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux sparc64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090414 Gentoo Firefox/3.6a1pre
[19:46] <asac> asac_the_bumber: jackalope is also not a known branch  ;)
[19:46] <asac> asac_the_bumber: it will be "karmic"
[19:46] <asac_the_bumber> asac: update sqlite to 3.6.13!
[19:46] <asac> fta: so similar to what i did to all mozillateam branches (all i remembered ;))
[19:47] <asac> all main branches
[19:47] <asac> asac_the_bumber: not for jaunty
[19:47] <asac_the_bumber> why not?
[19:47] <asac> 3.6.10 is rocking the boat here ;)
[19:47] <asac> asac_the_bumber: we are in deep freeze
[19:47] <asac_the_bumber> that version has unaligned acceses
[19:47] <asac> alto, alto ;)
[19:48] <asac_the_bumber> bumb quick
[19:48] <asac> asac_the_bumber: hppa doesnt justify a deep freeze breach combinined with new upstream exception ;)
[19:48] <asac_the_bumber> its not hppa :P
[19:48] <asac> even sparc and hppa combined ;)
[19:48] <asac> asac_the_bumber: does it fix arm?
[19:48] <asac> thats the only supported arch ;)
[19:48] <asac> (but first we need a crash report i guess ;))
[19:48] <asac_the_bumber> hah
[19:49] <asac_the_bumber> well, i'm just trying now with 3.6.13, which should be fixed
[19:50] <asac> asac_the_bumber: so is sqlite also compiled with no-align-error?
[19:50] <asac_the_bumber> i'll find out if there's something that needs to be done on trunk
[19:51] <asac_the_bumber> asac: i have no clue
[20:12] <fta> asac, if you do a new 3.0, please remember the build-system...
[20:13] <asac> fta: yeah. i hope i have time to get that in this round :(
[20:13] <asac> i have a huge backport backlog :(
[20:14] <fta> it's in ff3.head already, just cherry pick it
[20:14] <asac> but i saw the build failure
[20:15] <asac> fta: its not a single commit, but more spread over like 6 commits
[20:15] <asac> revno: 285
[20:15] <asac> revno: 286
[20:15] <asac> revno: 323
[20:15] <asac> revno: 325
[20:15] <asac> revno: 326
[20:15] <asac> think thats all
[20:15] <asac> lets check ;)
[20:16] <fta> really? i don't remember
[20:16] <asac> ;)
[20:18] <asac> i will see how far i get ;)
[20:22] <asac> fta: you want to be subscribed to the jaunty 1.9.1 and 3.1 branches?
[20:22] <asac> should be pretty low traffic ;)
[20:22] <asac> (otherwise we are doing something wrong)
[20:45] <fta> do you mean for bugs? or commits?
[20:46] <asac> fta: commits
[20:46] <fta> ok for commits
[20:47] <asac> done
[22:36] <hjmf> asac: are you around
[22:36] <hjmf> asac: ?
[22:36] <hjmf> asac: how can I check which is the current version of a package
[22:37] <hjmf> I'm going to edit the changelog to reflect the changes made in the apport hook
[22:37] <hjmf> asac: I mean: firefox-3.0 (3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu4) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[22:42] <hjmf> for example, in the ppa repos the last build of firefox-3.1 is the version 3.5~b4~hg20090414r24561+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[22:44] <hjmf> ... and for jaunty the last one for firefox-3.0 is 3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu3...
[22:45] <hjmf> it is just that I want to be sure to put the right number.
[22:46] <hjmf> asac: I'll do the debcommit && push when I get this thing clear :)
[23:44] <asac> hjmf: so we work on .head branches only
[23:45] <asac> hjmf: we bump changelog version either when we release or when the patches need to be adjusted
[23:45] <asac> so for stable products like firefox-3.0 we only commit stuff for new releases usually
[23:45] <hjmf> asac: so...
[23:45] <hjmf> asac: I've left the version number intact in the 3.0 changelog
[23:46] <asac> hjmf: right. if on .head branch is UNRELEASED you dont need to change that
[23:46] <hjmf> good
[23:46] <asac> just add the new changelog entries and done
[23:46] <hjmf> asac:  I've just send the merge proposals for 3.0.head
[23:47] <hjmf> one for the bug and another for the little refactoring
[23:47] <asac> hjmf: ok so you named the branch thje same as the .head branch. its better to name it like the topic
[23:47] <asac> e.g. lpXXXX_apport_hooko improvements
[23:47] <asac> otherwise you need to delete your branch for the next contribution and so on
[23:48] <asac> not a problem. just ahint for best practices
[23:48] <hjmf> asac: I see
[23:48] <hjmf> I'm trying to learn :)
[23:49] <hjmf> so this will be better: bzr push lp:~hmontoliu/firefox/firefox-3.1.apport_hook
[23:49] <asac> hjmf: so when you submit a single branch you only need a single merge request. e.g. https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~hmontoliu/firefox/firefox-3.0.head/+merge/5545 now has both commits so the other wasnt necessary
[23:49] <asac> hjmf: yeah. except that without lp bug id you can only create one branch for apport_hoook ;)
[23:50] <asac> hjmf: oh the other was ment to be ffox 3.1
[23:51] <hjmf> asac:  ?
[23:51] <asac> hjmf: you submitted the wrong branch ;) (https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~hmontoliu/firefox/firefox-3.0.head/+merge/5543 -> you requested to merge 3.0.head into that)
[23:51] <hjmf> I need a manual :-(
[23:52] <asac> hjmf: so https://code.launchpad.net/~hmontoliu/firefox/firefox-3.0.head/+merge/5545 is good
[23:52] <hjmf> something beter than this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0809/MozillaTeam :-P
[23:52] <asac> hjmf: you did your change on top of 3.0.head
[23:52] <asac> and submitted that as a merge request
[23:52] <asac> thats good
[23:52] <hjmf> yes, I thought so
[23:53] <hjmf> in both cases,
[23:53] <asac> however, the other merge request: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~hmontoliu/firefox/firefox-3.0.head/+merge/5543
[23:53] <asac> you changed on top of firefox-3.0.head and asked to merge that branch into our firefox-3.1.head
[23:53] <asac> the right way would have been to do the change on top of firefox-3.1.head and ask that to be merged into firefox-3.1.head
[23:53] <asac> makes sense?
[23:54] <asac> hjmf: ok merged the 5545 merge request
[23:54] <asac> err approved ;)
[23:54] <hjmf> hmm makes sense  I select the default "Merge into:  	 lp:firefox" but in the second proposal I noticed that it was pointing to 3.1 so I changed to 3.0
[23:55] <hjmf> I thought it was a mistake in the second proposal
[23:55] <hjmf> but the wrong one was the first
[23:55] <asac> hjmf: yeah
[23:55] <hjmf> asac: I see...
[23:55] <asac> hjmf: i think we have 3.1 as current development focus for the firefox project
[23:55] <asac> so thats probably suggested by default
[23:56] <hjmf> thanks to point that
[23:56] <hjmf> asac: back to the version number, in the changelogs of 3.1 where can I check for the current version
[23:57] <hjmf> in the ppa repo?
[23:57] <asac> hjmf: look how the changelog loks now in mozillateam .head branch
[23:57] <asac> hjmf: thats how i ment it ;)
[23:58] <asac> Committed revision 394.
[23:58] <asac> hjmf: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Emozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.head/revision/394/debian/changelog
[23:59] <asac> hjmf: the current version is whatever is currently on top with UNRELEASED
[23:59] <asac> (re 3.1)