[14:14] <Zeqadious> damjan: did those scripts help you?
[20:12] <pwgen> hi
[20:12] <pwgen> can someone tell me how i can use the dbus interface on upstart 0.5.1 ? 
[20:15] <keesj> pwgen: what kind of thing do you want to do?
[20:16] <keesj> it's all generated code based on the xml files. the xml describes the interface
[20:42] <pwgen> keesj: i try a dbus call to com.ubuntu.Upstart , but there ist nothing there, how can i find out if upstart is registered ?
[20:46] <pwgen> or another question . how can i enable DEBUG in upstart 0.5.1 sources ?
[20:47] <keesj> that's a comiple time option , but what you can to is increase the logging level to quite high (this is also a dbus class)
[20:48] <pwgen> can i do this by kernel-cmd line or by runtime ? and how ? ..
[20:50] <keesj> I don't have a running dbus here you should be able to try to type something like this
[20:50] <keesj> dbus-send --system  --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart.GetAllJobs
[20:51] <keesj> initctl log-priority debug (I think)
[20:52] <pwgen> i tried with mdbus -s com.ubuntu.Upstart and with dbus-inspector . both cann not find com.ubuntu.Upstart .. but ill try it with dbsu-send mompl. 
[20:53] <keesj> I have not tested this command btw , we don't run the dbus daemon
[20:53] <pwgen> dbus send result in . ...ServiceUnknown .. (:-(( 
[20:54] <keesj> dbus equals pain
[20:55] <pwgen> maybe some probs on initialisation  
[20:55] <pwgen> but how can i increase the debug level ?
[20:55] <pwgen> hmm it also says not provided by any .service 
[20:55] <keesj> didn't the  initctl log-priority debug work?
[20:56] <keesj> upstart uses syslog to log so you might also need to tweak the verbosity level at the syslog layer
[20:57] <pwgen> can i send some signals to force reinit ( init -q  ?) 
[20:58] <keesj> kill 1
[20:58] <pwgen> and i am runnin on an embedded zaurus with no syslog , logread instead .. 
[20:58] <pwgen> ahh THX
[20:59] <keesj> exec /sbin/syslogd -n -C -S -l 8
[20:59] <keesj> this is what we use a syslog(busybox) (also using logread)
[20:59] <pwgen> i get some nice logiing info .. 
[21:00] <keesj>  foreground (-n), small log data (-S), and to shared memory buffer (-C) , using a log level debug (-l 8)
[21:01] <keesj> pwgen: using oe?
[21:01] <pwgen> "daemon.debug init: job_class_register: Registered job /com/ubuntu/Upstart/jobs/tty4" lots  of this for all job files .. but still no com.ubutuUpstart .(:-((
[21:01] <pwgen> yes oe with extra  patch to disable oom writing on booting , while there is no oom ... 
[21:01] <pwgen> yes oe with extra  patch to disable oom writing on booting , while there is no /proc
[21:03] <pwgen> but my package may not ship the .service file ( /usr/share/dbus-1/com.ubutu.Upstart.service is not there )
[21:03] <keesj> I have also a patch to configure the log level in /etc/init.d/init.conf and to fix dbus naming(neither was accepted here) but the future of upstart is unclear if you ask me
[21:04] <keesj> I replaced init with a shell init script that mounts /proc and performs a exec upstart
[21:05] <pwgen> hmm that may be another workaround . 
[21:06] <pwgen> where in the source is the .service file ? 
[21:08] <pwgen> or what will be executed ( init ? ) for example:  Exec=/usr/sbin/init ?