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Ampelbeinhi there. is there anything that can be done about the non-updating bugwatches for GNOME and sf?01:21
rockstarAmpelbein, most of the bugs folks are sleeping, but you can always ask a question.01:56
Ampelbeinrockstar: well, i don't know what i could do, that's why i asked. ;-) i don't see a "retry bugwatch" button here.01:58
rockstarAmpelbein, no, I meant ask a Question, as in the proper noun.02:05
kikoAmpelbein, you should ask gmb when he's awake, but I will ask him -- can you give me an example bug #?02:10
Ampelbeinkiko: 228309 for example.02:14
Ampelbeinkiko: or bug 360598 - here the bugwatch actually has no warning-sign yet the status is unupdated.02:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 360598 in file-roller ""Extract Here" creates empty directory on network folder in Gnome File Browser" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36059802:15
jkakarHrm, maybe I'm blind but I seem to consistently have a very hard time finding the link to a project's PPA(s) from the main overview page for a project.02:15
Ampelbeinkiko: (those were both GNOME ones) bug 333620 is sf.net02:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 333620 in phpldapadmin "phpLDAPadmin misconfiguration" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33362002:15
wgrantjkakar: Projects don't have PPAs.02:16
jkakarwgrant: Oh, right.  Crap.02:16
wgrantjkakar: People (and teams) do.02:16
jkakarwgrant: That just feels like so much of the implementation leaking out... when I (as a user) think of, for example, finding the PPA for Gwibber I don't think of the gwibber-team team, I think of the project.02:16
wgrantjkakar: You would think so, wouldn't you.02:17
wgrantPerhaps the upcoming Registry work on linking teams and projects will alleviate this.02:17
jkakarwgrant: I use Launchpad every day, including PPAs (though I don't use them daily)... the fact that this is confusing for me probably means it's impossible for casual visitors to figure out.02:17
wgrantjkakar: Mhm.02:18
jkakarI'm seeing this when I run 'bzr update' in my local checkout: Format <RepositoryFormatKnit1> for lp-140228062795280:///~autoppa/autoppa/trunk/.bzr is deprecated - please use 'bzr upgrade' to get better performance02:22
jkakarShould I run 'bzr upgrade lp:~autoppa/autoppa/trunk'?02:22
wgrantYes.02:22
jkakarwgrant: Great, thanks.02:22
wgrantThat's a nice old branch you have there.02:22
jkakarAye. :)02:24
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bgrangerI am trying to register a series for the IPython project05:19
thumperok05:19
bgrangerI am one of the drivers, but there is no "Register series" link on the main page.05:20
bgrangerI know what it looks like because I am the owner of another project (pyxg)05:20
thumperhmm...05:20
bgrangerIs there something wrong with my permissions that prevents me from seeing this?05:20
wgrantIt's probably only the owner (or Maintainer or Registrant, depending on where you look) that can create series.05:24
bgrangerThe lp docs say...05:27
bgrangerTo create a series, provided you're either the project's owner or driver, click Register a series in the Series and milestones section of your project overview page.05:27
wgrantThat documentation doesn't match the implementation, then.05:29
wgrant(I just tested - the driver can't add a series)05:29
thumperbug!05:30
bgrangerThanks for checking this.  At least I know what is wrong and I can have our owner ahndle this.05:30
bgrangerShould I file a bug report?05:30
wgrantA bug report would be good, I suspect.05:32
bgrangerOK, thanks05:32
wgrantI don't see why a driver shouldn't be able to do it.05:32
bgrangerI sure *need* to be able to05:32
kkubasikHey, does anyone know what the commercial launchpad accounts run?06:02
spmkkubasik: I'm not sure I understand the question? what do you mean by "the commercial launchpad accounts run?" ?06:05
kkubasikI know that it is possible to purchase a launchpad account for hosting closed-source code06:06
kkubasikI was wondering if anyone knew what that cost06:07
spmkkubasik: $250 USD p/y. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/20806:08
kkubasikspm:  many thanks06:08
spmnp06:08
kkubasik=/ sad its so pricy06:08
vikashkoushikHi guys06:35
vikashkoushikWhen I login to my launchpad profile,I find that I lost 10,000 karma's.What happened?06:35
thumperkarma degrades over time06:35
vikashkoushikwhy?06:35
thumperto give weight to recent activity06:36
vikashkoushikdidn't get you clearly06:36
thumperkarma is an indication of recent launchpad activity, not all historical launchpad activity06:36
vikashkoushiki'm trying to become a member of ubuntu06:38
thumperwell if it helps, my karma has gone down 40k recently06:38
vikashkoushikduring the meeting,they may not be convinced when they see my lauch pad profile06:39
vikashkoushikwow06:39
thumperthose that decide know that karma degrades06:39
vikashkoushikhmm......06:39
vikashkoushikthanks dude06:39
lifelessvikashkoushik: we look at long term contributions06:43
lifelessvikashkoushik: karma is one aspect06:44
lifelesslong term *sustained* contributions06:44
vikashkoushikyou can see my wiki page if you want06:44
lifelessa spurt of lots of contribution and then nothing is not as good an indicator as moderate contribution on a long term basis06:44
vikashkoushikhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/S.Vikash Koushik06:44
lifelessvikashkoushik: not really :)06:44
vikashkoushikinclude Koushik06:44
lifelessthe point is that the wiki page is just to document what you have been doing; if you have been contributing in a sustained way its very easy for us06:45
vikashkoushiki did a demo in front of 4 schools & distributed CD's to everyone there06:45
lifelessthats a single contribution06:46
lifelessits good06:46
lifelessbut we're looking for the long term06:46
vikashkoushikSince Jan06:46
vikashkoushikthats about 4 months06:46
lifelessfew people that have been contributing for only 4 months reach member status via the regional boards06:46
vikashkoushikdidn't it say 2months on the web page06:46
lifelessdon't be discouraged06:46
lifelesstake the recommendations you get and follow them06:47
vikashkoushikthe problem is that i'm in india06:47
vikashkoushikthose guys hardly come on #ubuntu-meeting06:47
vikashkoushiki've been giving answers & solutions in launch pad06:48
vikashkoushiktranslating ubuntu in tamil06:49
lifelessthats good06:52
lifelesskeep doing it06:53
lifelesscome back next month, or the month after06:53
wgrantlifeless: Are you on the apac board?06:54
lifelesswgrant: yes06:54
wgrantlifeless: Ahh.06:54
vikashkoushikcould i attend the coming meeting06:54
vikashkoushik?06:54
spmthumper: yikes - you weren't kidding about the karma drop. I was on ~96K, now 29. Whee. Wonder if I should use my powers for evil and ... correct that... :-P06:55
lifelessput your name on the web page if you feel like you can show sustained contributions next month06:55
vikashkoushiklol06:55
wgrantI, OTOH, have acquired a lot of karma recently, thanks to lp-bzr.06:55
vikashkoushikok06:55
lifelessvikashkoushik: the thing to remember is that we're looking for people that are contributing in the long term, not people trying to get member status for the sake of having member status06:55
lifelessvikashkoushik: contribute at a sustainable personal level and keep doing it06:55
spmwgrant: careful. get too smug and I may choose to "borrow" your karma ;-)06:55
lifelessvikashkoushik: it will be clear to the board06:56
vikashkoushiki'm not trying to get a membership status.I want to contribute to ubuntu06:56
lifelessspm: canonical folk get marked down06:56
lifelessvikashkoushik: in which case keep helping out on answers bugs and translations06:56
lifelessvikashkoushik: because thats a fantastic contribution06:56
wgrantspm: Haha.06:56
spmlifeless: heh. good. seriously for a change. :-)06:56
vikashkoushiki'll start bug reporting from 9.10 alpha06:56
lifelessexcellent06:57
spmvikashkoushik: why not trying to do bug fixing as well? where you can?06:57
wgrantOr bug triage.06:57
vikashkoushikspm:how do I do that?06:57
vikashkoushiki.e. where do i do that?06:57
spmfind an interesting (to you) bug that needs some traction, and try and fix it.06:58
spmvikashkoushik: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet06:58
vikashkoushikshal start on it immediately06:58
spmgah. wrong link.06:58
lifelessspm: uhm, wrong wrong wrong06:58
lifeless:)06:58
spmdamn browser history - they all look the same :-D06:59
vikashkoushikwat's the link guys?06:59
spmhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu06:59
vikashkoushiklol06:59
vikashkoushikhey lifeless06:59
vikashkoushik,07:00
wgrantspm: I prefer Ubunet's public bug stats to ours...07:00
lifelessvikashkoushik: ?07:00
vikashkoushikSo you guys don't look at karma while deciding to give the membership status?07:00
lifelessits one of many things we look at07:01
vikashkoushikhmmm..........07:01
lifelessno one thing is a deciding factor for or against07:01
vikashkoushikwat?07:01
spmwgrant: heh07:01
lifelessvikashkoushik: people  with zero karma have become members when they show sustained contributions, and people with lots of karma haven't had enough sustained contribution to become members07:02
lifelessI have to go, back later07:03
vikashkoushikk07:03
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thekornhi, is there any way to find out why I did not get a mail for bug 341163, "bughelper-dev" is listed under "also notified" and I'm member of that team08:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 341163 in bughelper "The live USB ubuntu doesn't mount NTFS partition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34116308:36
thekornupps, sorry wrong bug number, it's bug 35498508:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 354985 in python-launchpad-bugs "check-newsbugs.py LaunchpadLoginError" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35498508:37
wgrantthekorn: Notifications will go to the mailing list (bughelper@lists.u.c)08:38
thekornwgrant, ah ok, maybe it's because this list is dead or something, will check with bdmurray08:40
thekornthanks08:40
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wgrantI sent an email to a bug a little over 35 minutes ago, and it still hasn't shown up on the web UI. It had no commands, and a very similar email worked 8 hours ago.09:08
intellectronicawgrant: that's no good. which bug?09:16
wgrantintellectronica: Bug #36069309:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 360693 in malone "Timeout in bug page due to lots of repetitive queries" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36069309:17
intellectronicawgrant: oh that one :-/09:18
intellectronicawgrant: b.t.w do you get consistent timeouts for any bug? we do want to fix those!09:19
wgrantintellectronica: That is what my reply was about. One consistent case last night is no longer timing out - bug #260918 now only takes around 9 seconds to render. Last night it always timed out. I suppose the cache could be hotter now.09:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260918 in amsn "needed: libv4l and associated application patches (or "gspca stopped working in 2.6.27")" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26091809:21
intellectronicawgrant: cool, that's good news. i'll check what's going on with the email (but it might take a while because we don't have administrators until the morning in the US east coast)09:22
wgrantintellectronica: Thanks.09:23
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intellectronicawgrant: email is now being processed again10:27
wgrantintellectronica: What died?10:29
intellectronicawgrant: pretty much everything on the machine that runs the incoming email processing script. we're not sure why yet10:30
wgrantintellectronica: Ah, lovely...10:30
wgrantintellectronica: Thanks for fixing.10:30
intellectronicayup10:30
intellectronicawgrant: np. thanks for bringing the problem to our attention.10:31
SiDiHello11:05
SiDiI'd like to know who i shall contact in order to request the username of a totally inactive member, please.11:06
Ampelbeinhi there. could it be that the bugwatches are out-of-service again? see bug 228309 for a GNOME-example or bug 333620 for a sourceforge-one.11:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 228309 in seahorse "seahorse does not close the panel-applet indicating cached passwords" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22830911:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 333620 in phpldapadmin "phpLDAPadmin misconfiguration" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33362011:18
wgrantintellectronica: ^^ A couple of people have asked that today.11:23
intellectronicagmb: is checkwatches still not working for the gnome bug tracker?11:28
gmbintellectronica: Let me check the OOPS log. I think it's more complex than that.11:29
gmbintellectronica, Ampelbein: So, gnome bug watches are being updated. However, *which* gnome bug watches are being updated is a different matter altogether.11:30
gmbAmpelbein: I'll see if I can do more digging, but unfortunately that'll need a sysadmin and they won't be around for a couple of hours.11:30
Ampelbeingmb: thanks for investigating.11:30
gmbAmpelbein: np11:31
wgrantIs the background colour of interleaved changes meant to differ depending on whether they are joined to a comment? It looks strange having three different background colours for comment content.11:31
cody-somervillewgrant, Can you show me an example?11:32
gmbwgrant: Well, it's not *meant* to be. It's a bug.11:32
gmbWhich I shall now file.11:33
gmbwgrant: We basically repurposed the comment footer for changes linked to a comment, but the styling for the text stayed the same, which makes it look kinda funky.11:33
wgrantgmb: OTOH it'd probably look stranger to have the joined ones the same colour as the unjoined ones, because they're so close to white. I don't know.11:33
wgrantAhh.11:33
gmbwgrant: Luckily it's not hard to fix; it's just a CSS change. However, I'll leave it up to beuno to decide how the CSS should change :)11:34
wgrantgmb: It must be useful having UI designers to delegate that sort of thing to.11:35
gmbwgrant: Well, the way it normally works is that beuno creates a mockup, I implement the mockup, beuno likes the implementation, kiko disagrees, they argue for a bit, then I find a compromise.11:36
gmbwgrant: In theory, it works fine :)11:36
wgrantHaha.11:36
natureshadowhi there!12:12
cody-somervilleHello!12:12
natureshadowUnder what circumstances can a user lose 2000 karma points overnight?12:12
SiDinatureshadow, they changed the algorithm for answer tracker's karma imho :P i lost 7k karma12:13
natureshadowah ok .)12:13
cody-somervilleThey change all of them I believe12:13
natureshadowNot that I'd care, but good to know ;)12:13
cody-somervilleI lost 35K12:13
SiDicody-somerville, heya :P12:13
cody-somervilleHi SiDi :)12:14
MiloszAre there stats available for PPAs?12:24
bigjoolsMilosz: no, but it's in our plans soon12:25
Miloszbigjools, ok12:26
Miloszwould (or will..) be nice to have12:26
bigjoolspresuming you mean download stats that is12:26
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primes2hHello, What did it change recently in launchpad? This morning I've found that my karma (about bugs) dropped to 1817 (was over 6000)12:40
SiDiI know i'm repeating myself, but who should i contact in order to request an username that is taken by a totally inactive person ?12:43
primes2hEven the answers karma dropped, was higher yesterday.12:44
SiDiprimes2h, they lowered all the karma. life's like that ;)12:44
bigjoolsSiDi: file a Question on the launchpad project12:44
primes2hSiDi: translations one is stable.12:45
SiDibigjools, ok, thanks12:45
bigjoolsnp12:45
primes2hSiDi: if you tell me that it's a general behaviour, that's ok! :-)12:46
primes2hSiDi: Thanks12:46
SiDiprimes2h, you're welcome12:46
kikoSiDi, me. just pirvmsg me13:01
SiDikiko, thanks :)13:02
wgrantWas the huge karma shift caused by the reduction in overall translations karma making everything else worth less?13:13
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c_kornhas the karma calculation changed?14:12
jpdsc_korn: For translation imports? Yes.14:16
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henningejpds, c_korn: There were more changes.14:17
c_kornhm, the karmar drop would be related to translations. but I did not translate that much. but doesn't matter14:30
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thewrathi send an e-mail about somethign that was posted on the launchpad-users list but i do not see my reply to Craigs post on this page: https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/threads.html#04976 why? how long does it take to populate the server?15:51
gmbthewrath: It's done periodically, but I don't know how short the periods are.16:04
thewrathok16:05
thewraththat answers my qustion got to go to a meeting16:05
thewrathttyl16:05
MTecknologyWhat happened with the karma scores?16:16
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MTecknologynvm16:20
cl2hi! got a question: how come that the more i commit the less point i get as a contributer?17:04
rockstarcl2, what makes you think that?17:07
cl2rockstar: the launchpad overview page :-)17:08
cl2just commited a bunch of files and my point decreased from 133 to 8817:09
cl2in the beginning of the month i got 166 points17:09
rockstarcl2, it looks like karma around the board has dropped.  We're looking into it.  My overall karma went from ~80K to ~37K.17:11
cl2ok, thanks, i was just wondering :-)17:12
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Ursinhame!17:34
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MTecknologyUrsinha: you might want to add something about karma normalization to the topic...17:51
UrsinhaMTecknology, we're sorting out a blog post about that17:51
Ursinhabut I'll add, yes, thanks for the suggestion :)17:51
jcastroStill looking for launchpad sessions for openweek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep17:53
MTecknologyUrsinha: fyi - I am happy to see it happened - even though I'm down to ~25k :P17:53
rockstarjcastro, the only one I'm qualified for is already booked.17:53
jcastrodon't you rock at anything else?17:53
jcastro:p17:53
rockstarjcastro, no.  :(17:54
intellectronicajcastro: let me ask around if anyone in our team wants to do a session. i did last time, but if no one else steps forward i'll volunteer this time too17:55
jcastrowoo17:56
jcastroif you want a slot but don't have a topic feel free to put "tbd launchpad topic" or whatever17:56
intellectronicajcastro: last time we did a general bug tracking session, which was ok. but i wonder if a session on external bug trackers will be a nice thing to have. it's a powerful, and pretty complicated, feature, which should be of interest to ubunteros17:58
jcastrointellectronica: you mean linking to external bug trackers? I kind of do that in my upstream bug workflow session17:58
jcastrointellectronica: but I can not mention that and have you talk about linkages17:59
jcastroand I can talk about upstream report, etc.17:59
intellectronicajcastro: ah ok. so any suggestions on what would be of most benefit? a general bug tracking session? or maybe about using the api?17:59
jcastroI would like to "save" the api sessions for developer week, and have these sessions be more introductory18:00
jcastrointellectronica: how about "using ubuntu-bugs"?18:01
jcastrothat would fit with our trying to get the word out for people on how to use it, etc.18:01
intellectronicajcastro: yes, good idea. a session focused on how to effectively report and track ubuntu bugs18:02
jcastrointellectronica: mgunes is doing a "good practices on ubuntu bugs" session already, and pedro is doing a triaging one18:02
jcastroso one that complements those two would be perfect18:02
jcastrointellectronica: a round up of the tools available, like ubuntu-bug, the suspend script, checkbox, etc. would be useful I think too18:03
intellectronicajcastro: cool. i'm trying to find someone from the team to do that, and if not will register myself. could you please remind me which wiki page the schedule is on?18:03
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep18:04
jcastroit might go up one page over the next few hours as I finalize stuff, if you have any problems just ping me18:04
intellectronicajcastro: k np18:04
jcastrostill plenty of room on there for more lp intro talks! (looks around)18:05
intellectronicajcastro: there's no API session yet. i think that would be valuable. maybe leonardr will be interested in running one18:06
jcastrook18:06
leonardrintellectronica, jcastro: sure, sign me up. i do one of those every time18:07
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jbalinthi18:44
jbalintany reason why i click a file here, its coming up empty? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ndb-bindings/ndb-bindings/trunk/files/head%3A/java/swig/?file_id=java-20070130002924-gcvhapmvh0lu1pkd-118:44
SiDiClick on the "Download this file" button ? :p18:46
jbalintits still empty18:47
SiDiYou mean the files you get are empty ?18:48
jbalintyes18:48
SiDiOk, i confirm18:48
jbalintim pretty sure this used to show the whole file "annotated" or "blame" or whatever you call it18:48
SiDifrom the link you posted18:49
SiDiclick on the right side of the screen on the green arrows18:49
SiDiand you'll get the files18:49
SiDiYeh but it doesnt work for some kinds of file exts18:49
jbalinteven java.... i think it was fine, prob based on whether files are marked as a non-text type18:50
Ursinharockstar, do you know what's going on here?18:51
Ursinha^18:51
SiDiThe download link from the "annotate" page doesnt work, indeed18:51
* rockstar reads backchat18:51
jbalintthe annotate page is blank...! :(18:52
jbalinti guess because the head rev is later than this is last updated, but i dont see how thats useful18:52
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thewrathforestpixie: /leave19:36
jbalintok, its working again now :D19:43
cr3darn that karma change, I almost got enough to be worth a penny on the shop!20:11
Ursinhacr3, :)20:16
oubiwannrockstar: hey man, is there a launchpad page for projects that lists all the tags with links for viewing all the bugs with the given tag?20:39
rockstaroubiwann, not sure, but that would be helpful if there was.  gmb? ^^^20:48
kikooubiwann, there isn't for any project, though there is for a specific project (like /ubuntu) a listing20:53
oubiwannkiko: I'm interested in one for landscape... is there such a one?20:54
kikobugs/landscape20:55
kikolook at the portlet to the right20:55
oubiwannkiko: right, that portlet only shows a small number of the tags I'm interested in...20:55
kikooubiwann, sounds like they aren't official tags then.20:55
oubiwannkiko: ah, so any tags that I make official will show up in the portlet all the time?20:56
kikoyes.20:56
oubiwann(I don't think we have any official tags)20:56
kikothere's a page missing that lists /all/ tags20:56
kikointellectronica might be able to tell you more about that20:56
oubiwannkiko: thanks for the info! just what I needed :-)20:56
fortunevWhen using bazaar, is there a way to push a branch without using ssh?21:16
beunofortunev, sftp or ftp21:17
beunoand webdav, but I don't know how that works currently21:17
fortunevbeuno: I have tried sftp and ftp neither seem to work. is the syntax the same?21:17
beunofortunev, is this to Launchpad or server to server?21:17
fortunevLaunchpad21:18
beunoright, so just sftp and ssh to launchpad21:18
beunobzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/project/branchname21:18
fortunevI'll give it a shot. is sftp much different than ssh?21:19
beunofortunev, what seems to be the problem?21:19
fortunevI get cannot connect to server. I'll give you the exact error in a sec21:19
fortunevbzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; (10060, 'Operat21:21
fortunevion timed out')21:21
beunofortunev, ah, that's odd21:22
beunocan you try:  sftp bazaar.launchpad.net21:22
beunoand: ssh bazaar.launchpad.net21:22
fortunevthat came from sftp://bazarr.launchpad.net. SSH does the same21:22
beunofortunev, you must have a problem with your connection21:23
beunoeither you're local lan is blocking ports, or your ISP is flaky21:23
fortunevI think my port 22 is closed. Is there an unsecure way to push21:23
fortunevor a way I can supply a pw21:24
beunoah, I don't think so then, no21:24
fortunevaaarrrrrgggg.... I was afraid of that.Could I use send?21:25
fortunev...I apologize for my noobness.21:25
beunofortunev, send what, sorry?21:26
fortunevbzr send . I believe it uses email?21:26
beunofortunev, ah, maybe21:26
beunothumper, rockstar, abentley ^ ?21:26
abentleybeuno: How can I help?21:28
* rockstar reads backchat21:28
beunoabentley, hi! good to see you.  fortunev has his port 22 blocked, and was wondering if bzr send could help him in any way to send a branch to LP21:28
beunoI *think* not, that it's just for MPs21:28
beunobut I've been wrong like 3 times already today21:29
abentleybeuno: bzr send should cause launchpad to create a branch if it doesn't exist yet, but I just tried it and it doesn't seem to have worked.21:29
beunogood, so I was theoriticall wrong, and pragmatically right21:30
fortunevabently: thanks for the assist. I recall reading something about authenticating with a password. Would you know anything about that?21:31
abentleyfortunev: I know that it's not supported for Launchpad.  Launchpad only uses SSH keys for authentication.21:31
beunoand that's still port 22 though, no?21:32
fortunevok... If that is the case I will have to work on setting up a tunnle I guess21:32
abentleybeuno: Yes.  Though having your incoming port blocked shouldn't affect what you can connect to.21:32
fortunevyes ssh is port 2221:32
beunoabentley, right. He seems to have it blocked both ways21:32
fortunevI am guessing both are blocked. Yes21:33
fortunevwell thanks anyway. Sorry for hacking your nick abentley. cya l8r21:34
abentleyfortunev: np.21:34
abentleybeuno_: So apparently, the issue was that the target_branch in the MD had a trailing slash.21:53
beuno_abentley, ah21:53
beuno_a bug I guess?21:54
abentleybeuno_: Yeah.21:57
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abentleybeuno: It's bug #31804021:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 318040 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS, assert not url.endswith('/'), fixed by changing public_branch" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31804021:58
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beunoabentley, cool, thanks for looking into it21:59
herbbarry: that didn't apply cleanly. there's no lib/lp/registry/tests/test_mailinglistapi.py to patch.22:59
herboop23:00
kkubasikHey, does anyone know more details about how launchpad will be released?23:11
kkubasikas open source that is23:12
beunokkubasik, info at: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing23:12
kkubasikwill it be enough to run a hosted launchpad instance? or just enough to see how it works23:12
beunokkubasik, you will be able to run a hosted instance, in general. Although if you do, you loose a lot of potential information you may share with other open source projeccts23:13
kkubasikbeuno:  has there been talk of federating?23:14
kkubasikour problem is we have a mix, about 50:5023:14
kkubasiksome projects open source, but some super-closed23:14
kkubasikso we need to be able to make some stuff private, but we want to share as much as possible, while having just one bug tracker internally23:14
beunokkubasik, well, launchpad provides a commercial service to have private branches and bugs23:15
beunoso you could use Launchpad, and mix-n-match23:15
beunothere a few projects doing the same already23:15
beunobac knows all about this23:15
kkubasikbeuno:  yeah, I emailed and asked about that23:16
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kkubasikI would ike to, but we do mostly consulting, meaning a high turnover rate on projects23:16
bachi kkubasik23:16
kkubasikso per-project pricing is a tough sell for us23:16
backkubasik: i have not responded to your email yet as i'm discussing it internally23:16
backkubasik: perhaps we can chat here tomorrow23:17
kkubasikbac: certainly23:17
kkubasikis 23.5 hours from now good?23:18
kkubasik;)23:18
backkubasik: regarding private translations, it is not something on our roadmap.  the big win for translations is access to the giant pool of strings that have already been translated.23:18
kkubasikcertainly, i think its more 'anonymous' strings23:19
backkubasik: when you start slicing that pool up it becomes less useful.  but i understand you don't want sensitive strings leaking23:19
kkubasikyeah, translation isn't really the kicker, but blueprints are pretty cool23:20
backkubasik: sometime tomorrow afternoon EDT would be good23:20
kkubasikgreat, i'll be online most of tomorrow afternoon, so we can link up at some point23:20
backkubasik: we have not fully implemented private blueprints but they will not be much work.23:20
backkubasik: just ping me here.  i'm on all day...23:20
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baci don't monitor this channel but do respond when someone calls my name...23:21
kkubasikI know we aren't a big contract, but we are mostly open-source devs and would be more than willing to make a special effort to help test/report bugs23:22
joey>> Launchpad is going offline in a few minutes for unscheduled security updates. <<23:29
joey>> Launchpad is going offline in a few minutes for unscheduled security updates. <<23:29
joey>> Launchpad is going offline in a few minutes for unscheduled security updates. <<23:29

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