/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/04/15/#ubuntu-meeting.txt

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pleia2hey folks, we're just rounding up one more council member and then we'll get ready to start this Americas board meeting :)02:00
nhandlerIsn't it meeting time?02:03
pleia2nhandler: yes, gathering up council members02:03
nhandlerpleia2: nixternal should be around, I just talked with him02:04
pleia2nhandler: thanks :) we just need one more for quorum and he hasn't replied to PMs02:05
nhandlerHey cody-somerville02:06
cody-somervilleHi nhandler02:06
* mterry waves at cody-somerville02:07
* cody-somerville waves.02:08
pleia2sorry all, still trying to get one more02:11
pleia2ok, we're ready to go02:12
nixternalhola02:12
xqhey nix02:12
nixternalwell howdy02:12
nhandlernixternal: About time you showed up ;)02:12
pleia2ok, looks like kiko isn't here02:12
pleia2xq: you're up!02:12
nixternalshush nhandler ;p02:12
xqHi02:13
Technovikingnixternal: your late, no burrito for you02:13
* lamalex will have his burrito02:13
pleia2xq: post a short introduction and links :)02:13
xqI'm xq / Craig Huffstetler. Been using Ubuntu Linux, among other distros, for a while and contributing to the community. I help on Answers and in Ubuntu Bugs...and lead the Ubuntu US SC LoCo.02:13
xqLinks...02:14
pleia2wiki will do02:14
xqhttps://launchpad.net/~xq02:14
xqhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CraigHuffstetler02:14
nixternaljesus, let me borrow some of that karma xq :)02:16
pleia2xq: where would you say you're most active?02:16
xqMy LoCo and in Answers, I am trying to focus mostly on my LoCo02:16
pleia2cool, any upcoming events loco-wise?02:17
xqBut in general I like to spread out a lot of my time because I am currently (in all honesty) unemployed so this is where I siphon a lot of my free time.02:17
xqA lot of the current LoCo activities are about raising awareness in the community, so most of the activities (for me and members) reflect this -- whether it be with schools or community groups02:18
nixternalmmmm burrito02:18
nixternalas a matter of fact Technoviking...that is what I shall eat after this meeting :)02:19
pleia2xq: any specific events coming up?02:19
xqA virtual jaunty release party02:19
xqTo be honest, we tried to plan a jaunty release party but due to the spread of members across our state we had no response to the major active areas02:20
xqSo, we had to make it virtual02:20
pleia2yeah, that happens02:20
xqSo, the next step is to get people together later on in the year02:20
cody-somervilleIs South Carolina an official LoCo?02:20
xqIt's sad in my eye02:20
xqNot yet cody, but we would like to become one this year. It's on our road map.02:20
nixternaldoes the loco have any official ubuntu members yet?02:21
xqyes02:21
xqDaveBush2 / myrtlebeachbums (irc name)02:22
nixternalheh02:22
nhandlerxq: Your LP profile shows that you are a member of the QA team. What QA-related tasks do you perform?02:22
xqnhandler: I have participated in the last two testing days02:23
pleia2xq: thanks for your help with the US Teams this year :) it's nice to have you so eager to pitch in with things02:23
charlie-tcaI would like to give a wave for xq in helping with testing02:24
xqnhandler: I also like to help on bugs when able, across the board, and help "triage" them02:24
nhandlerxq: Any plans then to join the Bug Control team?02:24
xqnhandler: I get a lot exposure to bugs from the Answers forum as well, whether it be a new bug or linking an existing bug that should have more detail in it02:24
charlie-tcaHe has been helping out and it is doing a good job when he can02:24
cody-somervillexq, Where can I find logs of your loco meetings?02:25
xqnhandler: I may, but I didn't think my work was done in ubuntu-quality. I have quite a few ideas for helping out more there (including policies/wiki pages) and perhaps even writing some pieces.02:25
xqcody-somerville: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SouthCarolinaTeam/Meetings02:26
cody-somervillexq, What are three things the South Carolina LoCo Team done to contribute back to the larger Ubuntu community that you're most proud of?02:27
xqcody-somerville: I'm very proud of my members. I think that everything starts with the members & community (no matter the community). That may be number one. They contribute back to the larger community as a whole in ways that I can't as one person.02:29
cody-somervillexq, Could you give some specific examples of work done that specifically you've participated in?02:29
xqcody-somerville: Secondly, I would say some of our information spreading in the community (publishing articles in local newspapers, such as an article published in a local college newspaper) to raise awareness about Ubuntu and open source02:30
cody-somervilleHave a link to that?02:30
xqcody-somerville: Also, participating in FLPC (Free Linux PC).02:31
xqThe Carolinian at USC Upstate02:31
xqOne second, let me see if it is online02:31
xqFree Linux PC is at http://www.freelinuxpc.org/02:31
cody-somervilleI'm actually looking for Ubuntu specific examples, not so much FLOSS ones.02:32
xqTHe USC Upstate example was me going back and forth attempting to get a computer lab turned into Ubuntu instead of Windows with the Dean of the dept.02:33
xqI was an alumni of the college02:33
* cody-somerville nods.02:33
pleia2xq: cool, when was this?02:35
xqIt has not been converted yet, but I am still in contact with them. The last meeting was two weeks ago.02:35
itnet7Nice! xq02:35
xqIt just revved up student interest with Live CDs. It may ultimately come down to dual booting, but we'll see. There are other professors on board that I knew while I was there.02:36
dantalizingis it too late to get my plug in for xq?  i am us teams mentor for SC, and in the time i've observed them, xq has always been positive and friendly.  He is working hard to get the SC team organized and approved.  He is a great representative of the Ubuntu community.02:39
pleia2thanks dantalizing :)02:39
pleia2+1 from me, looking forward to seeing SC get approved this year! :)02:40
dantalizingi'm not sure SC needs a mentor... SC is moving forward thanks in great part to xq02:41
Technoviking+1 here, good work, please continue the great work in LP answers02:42
cody-somervillexq, +1 for a good start to becoming a great contributor.02:43
nixternal+102:44
nixternalderr02:44
nhandlerCongratulations xq! Keep up the good work.02:44
pleia2congrats xq, welcome! :)02:44
charlie-tcacongratulations, xq02:44
xqThanks guys02:44
itnet7Congrats xq !!02:44
mterry:)02:44
ssweenycongrats xq02:44
xqAnd gals02:44
pleia2doesn't look like02:45
pleia2wolter is here02:45
mterryme me me02:45
pleia2mterry: you're up!02:45
mterryOK, intro: I'm a long time user (since ubuntu started), only seriously started contributing in the last year02:46
mterryI work for Canonical on OEM customization stuff (like Dell Mini)02:46
mterryLinks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mterry/Membership02:46
mterryhttps://launchpad.net/~mterry02:46
mterryhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/mterry/Uploads02:46
mterryI work on lots of different stuff, notably the install experience (ubiquity, oem-config), and GNOME stuff02:47
mterrydone02:47
mterryI do more upstream work than Ubuntu, but I'm trying to tip that balance02:48
pleia2how long has deja-dup been around?02:48
mterrySince October...  6 months?02:48
mterryIt's in Jaunty now02:49
pleia2ah ok, I hadn't heard about it but it sounds very cool :)02:49
itnet7Nice contributions mterry!!02:49
mterryIt is!  ;)02:49
mterryThanks, itnet702:50
pleia2mterry: I see you have MOTU on your list for goals, is that something you think you'll get into this year?02:50
mterrypleia2: I'd like to.  I think it's achievable02:51
* pleia2 nods02:51
pleia2+1 from me, fantastic work mterry (and I'm looking forward to giving deja-dup a spin!)02:53
nixternal+1 here02:53
mterrypleia2: Thanks!  I love bug reports02:54
Technoviking+1 here02:54
* cody-somerville abstains as mterry is a co-worker of mine. :)02:55
pleia2:)02:55
pleia2congrats mterry! welcome aboard02:55
nhandlerCongrats mterry !02:55
mterryYay!02:55
itnet7woohoo congrats mterry!!!02:56
charlie-tcacongratulations, mterry02:56
cody-somervilleCongratz mterry02:56
mterryThanks all02:56
pleia2tim_sharitt: you're up :)02:57
tim_sharittI am 25 years old. I have no formal IT training, and all my knowledge is self taught. I have been an avid Linux users for about ten years now. I have used Ubuntu since 6.06. My main contribution to the community is user support, mostly via ubuntuforums.org. I do some bug triaging, but this is mostly limited to specifying packages for bugs, and an occasional comment. I am a member of the ubuntu forums beginners team. I am not much o02:57
tim_sharittf a programmer, but I try to learn all that I can. I'm currently reading through the MOTU documentation to learn more about the Ubuntu packaging process. Hopefully I will know enough to be able to contribute soon.02:57
tim_sharitthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/tsharitt02:57
mterryHeh, making the most of your 3 minutes, I see.  :)02:57
tim_sharitthttps://edge.launchpad.net/~tsharitt02:57
tim_sharittI swear it looked shorter in gedit :)02:57
pleia2hehe02:57
nhandlerI would like to say that tim_sharitt is also an active member of the Ubuntu Forums Beginners. He is very knowledgeable and always willing to help any user in need.02:58
xq3 minutes? how long did i take?02:59
lamalex4202:59
lamalex:)02:59
xqthat's what i thought. <noted>02:59
ssweenythat's your answer for everything02:59
lamalexbusted02:59
pleia2tim_sharitt: your future plans are quite diverse, is there anything specific on your list that you're actively working toward now?03:00
tim_sharittI working on leaning packaging right now03:01
pleia2tim_sharitt: cool, any PPAs in the works? :)03:01
tim_sharittnot yet, need something to work on first :)03:01
* itnet7 thinks if tim_sharitt can get Alabama going again, We might be able realize our Florida, Georgia, Alabama Tri-Loco Meet-up!!!03:02
nhandlertim_sharitt: Take a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging03:02
tim_sharittitnet7: that would be awesome :)03:02
pleia2tim_sharitt: how long have you been involved with the bug work? is this something you see yourself continuing?03:03
tim_sharittI've only started the bug work in the last six months, I plan to continue as well as gain more knowledge about how it all works03:04
tim_sharittI just recently learned how to do a backtrace03:05
Technovikingtim_sharitt: what are your plans for the BT education group03:05
tim_sharittI am hoping to be able to put together a few courses for the moodle site once it is up and going03:06
Technovikingwhat courses are you considering?03:08
cody-somervilletim_sharitt, Can you link to your forum profile for us please?03:08
tim_sharittThough I don't really know on what yet. I have been trying to think about what I am qualified with. Probably cli stuff03:09
tim_sharitthttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=27038303:09
tim_sharittI would like to do a beginners primer for using the command line03:10
tim_sharittand build on that03:10
cody-somervilletim_sharitt, Sounds good. +1 from me.03:10
tim_sharittI was also just approved for the UF unanswered posts team03:11
pleia2+1 from me, great testimonials from your team, and you have a lot of great stuff going on - keep it up! :)03:11
tim_sharittjust saw the PM when I got the profile link :)03:11
nixternal+1 here as well03:11
Technoviking+1 here good forums work, Work on the Bama Loco though:)03:11
pleia2congrats tim_sharitt!03:12
nhandlerCongratulations tim_sharitt03:12
charlie-tcacongratulations, tim_sharitt03:12
itnet7Congrats!!!!03:12
tim_sharittThanks everyone :)03:12
pleia2ok all, we're only doing 2 more this evening, the next we'll have to hold off until the next meeting03:12
pleia2dantalizing: you're up03:12
boredandbloggingwohoo! dantalizing! dantalizing! dantalizing!03:12
dantalizingI've been using Ubuntu since Warty, and a member of the Florida loco since 4/2007. I was the Florida LoCo team lead from 10/2007 - 1/2009.  I've help organize many release parties and other advocacy events since that time.  I've helped Canonical with the Ubuntu Professional Developer training and Ubuntu Server training.03:12
dantalizingCurrently I am a US Teams Mentor, and am organizing multiple release parties for Jaunty.  My future plans include becoming a MOTU (I already have a mentor), and having complete support for OpenVZ in 10.04 LTS.  Or at least to the extent that soren allows :)03:12
dantalizinghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanTrevino03:12
dantalizinghttps://edge.launchpad.net/~dantrevino03:13
pleia2yeah, such a show-off with all those release parties :)03:13
dantalizing:)03:13
pleia2US-FL is making us all look bad ;)03:13
boredandbloggingdan is the man, he has done great work with the Florida team!03:13
nhandlerdantalizing: You mentioned you had a mentor. Just out of curiosity, who is it?03:13
pleia2I worked with dantalizing on the Ubuntu Professional Developer training stuff in Baltimore, loads of fun, he does great work03:14
itnet7Dan is a great contributor to the Florida Team, he was the previous team lead. He has spent a lot of time organizing different projects, and mentored other team Members in their efforts when starting out. He is involved in every event/project the Florida Team participates and has physically attended practically every event (most recently driving from Gaineseville to Miami, close to > 5 hours)03:14
itnet7He stepped down due to expecting an addition to his family, but you could hardly notice! He hasn't skipped a beat organizing several Jaunty releases across the State! He is involved with the Server Team, bug triaging, and is really involved in too many areas to list.03:14
dantalizingnhandler: stgraber03:15
dantalizingnhandler: huats put us together03:15
dantalizingnhandler: i'm really just getting started in the motu direction though03:15
cody-somerville+1 for Dan. Very solid application.03:16
pleia2+1 from me, I am very familiar with dantalizing's exceptional work - well done!03:16
Technoviking+103:16
nixternal+103:17
nhandlerCongratulations dantalizing ! Keep up the fantastic work.03:17
boredandbloggingcongrats dan!03:17
nixternalwe have known dan for quite some time03:17
pleia2congrats dantalizing!03:17
boredandbloggingwohoo!03:17
dantalizingthanks everyone!!!03:17
itnet7Nice Job dantalizing You deserve it Man!!03:17
nixternaldantalizing: what took you so long?03:17
pleia2ok, last of the night, lamalex you're up :)03:17
* jedijf cheers loudly for lamalex 03:17
lamalex:)03:17
nixternalI figured you were a member for a while now, especially after seeing you at UDS03:17
dantalizingnixternal: i wanted to deserve it first03:17
dantalizing:)03:17
lamalexok, so- Hi, my name is Alex Launi, I'm 21. I'm a member of the Ubuntu-US-PA LoCo team, and one of the GNOME Do developers. Most of my involvement with the Ubuntu community has been through our LoCo, of which I'm one of the mailing list admins, and launchpad admins. I will be attending UDS Karmic with Canonical sponsorship. I'm active on the forums giving support, report bugs when I find them, and recently have been involved in some of the video03:17
pleia2you cut off at "some of the video"03:18
lamalexgrr03:18
lamalexirc03:18
nixternallamalex: by chance did I meet you at Penguicon last year? I know I met one of you damn GNOME Do devs :p03:18
lamalex... testing for the intel driver in jaunty reporting bugs on the UXA stuff for Karmic, and making sure EXA is smooth for jaunty.03:18
lamalexnixternal: you would have met djsiegel or DBO03:18
lamalexthey were both there03:18
nixternalahh, ya it was DBO now that you said it03:18
lamalexnixternal: if you were at Ubuntu Live i may have met you there03:18
lamalexhm, I should add that to my wiki page...03:19
pleia2so, over 2 years ago lamalex is the one I found out about the Pennsylvania LoCo from :) we were at a LUG meeting and I was like "Hey, there should be a us-pa team" and he says "THERE IS!"03:19
nixternalheh03:19
lamalexmy wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlexLauni and LP is http://launchpad.net/~alexlauni03:19
pleia2he's been working solidly with the US-PA LoCo since the beginning over 2 years ago03:19
lamalexhttps://launchpad.net/~alexlauni03:20
* nixternal makes a reminder to let Gabriel know to not allow lamalex near banshee from this point on :p03:20
lamalexheh03:20
lamalexmy banshee contributions have been great mister03:20
nixternalW00T CRITICAL MASS!03:20
nixternalCritical Mass Chicago here!03:20
lamalexyes, I am an avid cyclist03:20
lamalex:)03:20
bts3685i also worked with him for an end-user support company for about a hear and a half- very professional guy but still knows how to communicate on a human level03:20
nixternallamalex: I guess that explains the bumps and bruises in your pic on LP03:20
lamalexhaha yes03:20
nixternallamalex: favorite brand of cycle?03:20
lamalexthat was from getting hit by a car03:21
nixternallemme guess, fixie?03:21
jedijfhere we go....03:21
jthanlol03:21
nixternalhahaha03:21
Technovikinglamalex: how gnome-do will not open my home directory?:)03:21
nixternalhe looks like the hipster fixie type03:21
lamalexnormally, but I love road bikes, and I'm realllly looking for a cyclocross bike03:21
lamalexnixternal: i was a messenger for a bit03:21
lamalex:)03:21
lamalexfreelance deliveries for my friend's dad's firm downtown03:21
nixternaljust picked up a Blue Cyclocross bike...very good bike...I am a Trek fan with 2 Madones, an FX, and a 1.5...all road bikes :)03:21
pleia2others here to cheer for lamalex?03:22
nixternalprobably going to convert my 1.5 to a fixie03:22
lamalexwhat frame/03:22
bts3685pleia2: o/03:22
* jedijf cheers again03:22
lamalexheh we're so offtopic :)03:22
nixternalhahahaha03:22
* erstazi cheers for lamalex 03:22
* ssweeny cheers for lamalex 03:22
pleia2:)03:22
jedijfshhh its your strength03:22
* bts3685 cheers for lamalex 03:22
* Taim cheers for lamalex03:22
* jthan cheers for lamalex 03:22
lamalexon topic- I tried to start an ubuntu cycling team a loong time ago03:22
ssweenyit's started03:22
* nixternal notes he is on the Ubuntu Cyclists team on LP -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cyclists for you other cyclists in here :)03:22
jthan#ubuntu-cyclists03:22
* ssweeny is idling in that channel right now03:23
lamalexit kind of failed, and then ubuntu-cyclists popped up03:23
nixternalargh, I didn't even know we had an IRC channel03:23
lamalextried to get the ML going, it died a little bit03:23
pleia2ok, let's get this thing rolling03:23
lamalexi would really like to see if we can get a ride at UDS03:23
pleia2+1 from me, fantastic work these past couple years, lamalex :)03:23
nixternal+1 from me03:23
lamalexnixternal: next UDS in paris, we'll do the champs-elysee03:23
Technoviking+1 here03:23
johnso+1 for lamalex... seen some good stuff on the forums from him!03:23
nixternallamalex: I am so there!03:23
pleia2lamalex: congrats!!03:23
jedijfcongrats lamalex !!!03:24
nhandlerCongrats lamalex !03:24
ssweenycongrats lamalex!03:24
mterrylamalex: Congrats!03:24
jedijftry to stay /on/ the bike03:24
xqCongrats 4203:24
djsiegelwoohooo lamalex03:24
TaimHuzzah.03:24
johnsocongrats!!03:24
nixternaldjsiegel: ahhh, I remember you from penguicon03:24
nixternalI was the drunk guy!03:24
nixternalhahahah03:24
djsiegelnixternal: hmmm03:24
djsiegelthe drunk guy...03:24
ssweenythere was only one?03:25
boredandblogginglol03:25
nixternalyou were at Jorge's party the night before too?03:25
Technovikingslow con03:25
ssweenynot much of a con03:25
djsiegelyeah03:25
boredandbloggingnixternal: the drunk guy03:25
nixternalI was the guy who made out with jcastro in the room!!!03:25
djsiegelnixternal: score!03:25
bts3685/part03:25
djsiegeljorge is dreamy03:25
nixternaldamn, that shouldn't have gone public03:25
lamalex/fail03:25
nixternalhahahahahah03:25
lamalexjorge is every ubunteros dream man03:25
boredandbloggingnixternal: unless there are pictures, it didn't happen03:25
ajmitchnixternal: I feel sorry for him03:26
xqscreenshot03:26
nixternalboredandblogging: there are pictures03:26
pleia2thanks for coming to the meeting everyone :) congrats to our new members!03:26
nhandlerGreat meeting everyone03:26
boredandbloggingnixternal: duuuuude03:26
djsiegelnixternal: am I up?03:26
jedijfcongrats to all new members03:26
djsiegelor is meeting over?03:26
mdeslaurHow often are the meetings?03:26
boredandbloggingdon't tease us like that!03:26
nhandlerdjsiegel: They are done for the night03:26
lamalexthanks guys!03:26
lamalexwoo!03:26
djsiegelok, cool03:27
nixternalhold on03:27
nixternalwe are going to get it over with I hope03:27
nixternaldjsiegel: you are up!03:27
nixternalwhew, that was close03:27
djsiegelok...03:27
djsiegel"My name is David Siegel, and I began my involvement with Ubuntu a few years ago as a part time user, and became actively engaged as a full-time user and developer a year and half ago when I founded the GNOME Do project." https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DJSiegel03:28
Hobbseeyou're the founder?  ROCK ON!03:29
djsiegelwhen I'm not gallivanting with drunk guys at penguicon, I am gallivanting with drunk guys in #gnome-do03:29
djsiegeland drunk guys at Canonical, my new employer03:29
djsiegel(if you don't know Do, http://do.davebsd.com -- I highly recommend installing it)03:30
djsiegel(but I am biased)03:30
djsiegelso I know lamalex, of course03:30
djsiegeland DBO03:30
djsiegelthey are great Do devs03:30
djsiegelso, anyway03:30
* Hobbsee <3 gnome-do03:30
djsiegelfrom the beginning, Do has been targeted for Ubuntu, much to the chagrin of our friends at Novell03:30
* nixternal <3 Hobbsee when she lets people know there is 5 minutes left!03:30
djsiegelmy goal was to (1) make full use of Launchpad and engage the community03:30
djsiegel(2) get more people using Ubuntu, which they would enjoy more because of Do03:31
Hobbseenixternal: now that's what gnome do needs!  A timer function!03:31
djsiegelHobbsee: that is actually queued03:31
djsiegelI think a plugin just went to our list03:31
Hobbseedjsiegel: sweet.  Then I can stop using my phone to remind me to remind everyone else about the 5 minute mark :)03:31
djsiegelI bet03:32
Hobbseeoh, cool, do works for ssh hosts again.03:32
djsiegelyou could set the screenshot plugin to take a screenshot in 5 minutes ;)03:32
djsiegelI am saying this to try to make it clear that I sincerely believe Do /is/ a significant contribution to Ubuntu in particular, which may not be clear since it's upstream03:33
djsiegelbut now I am working on the user experience team at Canonical03:33
djsiegeland will work with the community for the next long while to get everyone excited about making linux sexy03:33
djsiegel*sexier03:33
pleia2djsiegel: specifically on the desktop, what kinds of things aside from Do are you working on?03:33
djsiegelmy launchpad page; https://edge.launchpad.net/~djsiegel03:33
djsiegelwell, we have this new project called Ayatana03:34
lamalexdjsiegel: Hobbsee re timer plugin, there are few bugs left to work out, should be done soon says the dev03:34
djsiegelthe first component of Ayatana is the notifications, which we are still working very hard on03:34
ScottKdjsiegel: What are your views on how the Dx team has interacted with the community in the Jaunty cycle?03:34
nixternalboredandblogging: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronthul/2431683165/03:34
djsiegelScottK: so, this was our first cycle and I think we learned a hell of a lot03:34
boredandbloggingnixternal: you know thats showing up in the planet in a few minutes, right?03:35
djsiegelI really think we've started on the right foot, but some important lessons were learned03:35
ScottKWhat do you think could be improved for karmic then?03:35
dantalizingnixternal: ew03:35
djsiegelScottK: well, I was not involved for much of the Jaunty cycle03:35
nixternalhahahahaha03:35
nhandlernixternal: That photo is coming to the release party ;)03:35
nixternalboredandblogging: nevah!03:35
djsiegelbut, the community /is/ Ubuntu03:35
djsiegelit is our greatest strength, our greatest advantage03:36
ScottKSo you feel like Dx integrated well with the community then?03:36
djsiegelit's a necessary condition for the success of Ubuntu that the Dx, Ux, and community find equilibrium03:36
djsiegelAnd I am extremely excited to be a part of that!03:36
djsiegelwell, I think there are some rough PR edges that have been smoothed over03:37
ScottKSo the only problems are PR?03:37
HobbseeIs ayatana planning to incrementally test new ideas in the development release, or are they planning to only throw out finished features?  Also, how much community action are they looking for?03:37
djsiegelI was told that notify-osd was greeting with some frustration at UDS03:37
ScottKI have yet to see any positive feedback from the community on the update-notifier changes.03:38
djsiegelScottK, like I said, I was not involved with Ux/Dx during the cycle, so my impression of Dx/community integration for Jaunty is mostly second hand.03:38
djsiegelScottK: really? I have seen mixed feedbacl.03:38
HobbseeAnd how much does ayatana plan to use non-canonical feedback, in the Karmic cycle?03:38
djsiegelI criticized it heavily when it was made public :)03:38
ScottKdjsiegel: About update-notifier?03:38
djsiegeloh, no, I meant notify-osd03:39
ScottKI've seen mixed feedback about the notification design, but the update-notifier feedback that I've seen was pretty unmixed.03:39
djsiegelI do not know much about update-notifier changes yet, but I do know I just toasted my netbook and desktop with Jaunty updates.03:39
djsiegelI have not been involved with update-notifier at all.03:39
djsiegelBut this is an evolving process.03:39
pleia2great work djsiegel :) +1 from me03:39
nixternal+1 from me as well03:40
djsiegelThe team is still forming, I just joined a few weeks ago!03:40
Technoviking+1 from me03:41
nixternalBURRITO!03:41
lamalex+103:41
pleia2congrats djsiegel :)03:41
lamalexdjsiegel has great vision, and is a huuge asset03:42
djsiegelcool beans burrito03:42
lamalexalso, he introduced me to the best burritos in philly03:42
nhandlerCongratulations djsiegel !03:42
djsiegelbooyakasha03:42
lamalexyeah dude! congrats03:43
TechnovikingI think that is it for tonight. great neeting everyone03:44
dantalizingthank you pleia2 Technoviking cody-somerville nixternal itnet7 boredandblogging stgraber nhandler03:44
nixternalno, thank you all :)03:44
nixternalBURRITO!!!03:45
nhandlerIsn't it a little late for a burrito nixternal ?03:45
nixternalnever!03:45
* nixternal drives down to google and wakes up Sussman and Fitz03:46
johnsojohnso is bye bye03:48
stgrabernixternal: hmm, from Chicago to MountainView, that can take a while :)03:56
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vikashkoushikHi guys06:33
vikashkoushikWhen I login to my launchpad profile,I find that I lost 10,000 karma's.What happened?06:34
dholbachvikashkoushik: best to ask in #launchpad06:34
vikashkoushikthanks06:35
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eeejayhey jcollado, you know when the qa meeting is?15:54
jcolladoeeejay: Hi. I think it's in 6 minutes15:54
eeejayjcollado: cool, thanks15:56
james_wit was later last week15:58
james_wif it is the same time then it will be 2 hours15:58
jcolladojames_w: Thanks. I think I've to fix my calendar16:01
eeejayphew16:04
davmor2eeejay: it's at the same time but the uk clocks are forward an hour so it is an hour latter here ie 1800 bst16:05
eeejaydavmor2: the calendar says GMT despite DST16:06
charlie-tca1700 UTC ?16:06
davmor2eeejay: are you sure it should say utc16:07
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pedro_hello folks!17:59
henohey!17:59
bdmurrayhi17:59
xqhey17:59
arahola hola :)18:00
henofader_, sbeattie, ogasawara: ping18:02
fader_Here, just finishing an email, sorry :)18:02
ogasawaraheno:  oops, I'm here now18:02
henonp18:02
sbeattiehey18:02
henook, let's start18:02
heno#startmeeting18:02
MootBotMeeting started at 12:02. The chair is heno.18:02
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]18:02
henoagenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings some standing items and RC/Final testing18:03
henoUbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro18:03
pedro_well i wasn't around that day so can't talk too much about the hug day18:03
heno[TOPIC]: UbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro18:04
MootBotNew Topic: : UbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro18:04
pedro_just looking at the page it seems it went pretty fine18:04
heno(for the record)18:04
davmor2hello18:04
bdmurrayThe timing was a bit unfortunate since the archive was frozen18:04
* charlie-tca waves18:04
bdmurraySo it required more work to sponsor uploads18:04
henoright18:05
henowhat's the next bug day?18:05
bdmurrayHowever, we did get some bugs fixed which is great!18:05
henoalways good :)18:05
pedro_heno:  catch new bugs for SRUs and Karmic - schedule for 2009043018:06
henook, great18:06
henoogasawara: did you want to mention kernel bug days?18:06
bdmurraypedro_: there was some discussion regarding having a tagging bugs bug day I'm not sure if it made the planning page18:06
ogasawaraheno: yes18:07
ogasawarathe kernel team recently had a sprint where they decided they'll be holding two kernel team bug days a month18:07
ogasawaraeach member of the kernel team has a specific list of bugs to focus on but we also wanted to get community participation in the future18:08
pedro_bdmurray: there's nothing related to that on the planning page, will add it to the ideas section18:08
henoogasawara: is the schedule set?18:08
bdmurraypedro_: we'd discussed creating a pool of bugs that might need a tag18:08
bdmurraypedro_: so ones with patches that need a debdiff should get a bitesize tag18:08
ogasawaraheno: we held the first one yesterday, and I believe the intention is to hold it every 2 weeks18:09
araogasawara: is there information somewhere?18:09
ogasawaraara: I need to migrate it to the public wiki18:09
araogasawara: ok, thx18:09
henoogasawara: please post to lists and/or blog aboit it before the next one18:09
ogasawaraheno: will do18:09
heno[TOPIC] New bug control members! -- bdmurray18:10
MootBotNew Topic:  New bug control members! -- bdmurray18:10
pedro_bdmurray: ok noted18:10
bdmurrayNothing to report18:10
henook18:10
ara:)18:10
heno[TOPIC] RC and Final ISO testing -- heno18:10
MootBotNew Topic:  RC and Final ISO testing -- heno18:10
henoSo today is crunch day for RC ISO testing18:11
henoif you're not already please join us in #ubuntu-testing18:11
henoremaining cases are here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/all18:11
henoare we tracking the changes made this week to validate after RC?18:12
henoe.g. the Kubuntu OEM installer fails to start18:13
henothat and similar fixes shiuld be smoke-checked Friday18:13
henoslangasek: do all the fixes that go in at this point get release milestoned first?18:14
henoIOW can we use that list to track them?18:14
sbeattiewouldn't they get closed and thus be in the relatively big list of closed bugs w/9.04 as a milestone?18:15
henofader_, davmor2: can you guys work together to make sure we check on these fixes Friday/Weekend?18:15
bdmurraywe can filter on date_fixed or so18:15
davmor2heno: yes18:15
fader_heno: roger18:15
henosbeattie: yes, but closed this week18:15
heno(we can take the method for finding/tracking them off line)18:16
henoNext week fader_ and I will be in the release war room in London18:17
davmor2we can always track from the list of bugs on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/all18:17
aradavmor2: not all the bugs go there, though18:17
henoplease be available next week for last-minute ISO testing, ISOs primed ect :)18:18
henoschwuk: do we have an emergency mirror up?18:18
davmor2heno: I think he has18:18
henoschwuk: can you send out access details to those who need them?18:19
heno(platform team and active testers in #ubuntu-testing)18:19
schwukheno: sure18:20
* mgunes sneaks in at last minute18:21
henook thanks18:21
henoAre there any other topics?18:21
henootherwise we can get on with testing ...18:21
* heno waves to mgunes18:21
cr3heno: is there a recommended way to bring attention to particularly serious bugs? hibernation, trackpad not working, volume wheel, etc... basic stuff18:22
bdmurraythose mostly sound kernel bugs to me right ogasawara?18:22
cr3heno: my testing today has uncovered some bugs which I hope have known workarounds such as installing lrm or somesuch18:23
davmor2cr3: USE CAPITALS AND !!!!!!!!! ;)18:23
ogasawaracr3: do you have bug #'s we can reference?18:23
cr3davmor2: you missed a few "1" in those exclamations :)18:23
ogasawaracr3: but note that the kernel is frozen so unless kittens are dieing it'll likely have to wait for SRU18:23
cr3ogasawara: I'll be sending a report shortly and, since they are indeed mostly kernel related, I'll copy you on my message18:23
ogasawaracr3: perfect, thanks18:23
sbeattiecr3: can you retarget your checkbox/0.7 tree to jaunty-proposed?18:23
henocr3: you can assign it one one of these teams http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/ and ask slangasek if he things it warrants Release Critical milestoning18:24
cr3ogasawara: my concern stops at providing pertinent information to the right people :)18:24
cr3sbeattie: we'll talk about that after the meeting, but thanks for bringing that up18:24
sbeattiecr3: okay18:24
henocr3: shout esp loud if these are regressions on Certified HW18:25
cr3heno: I've been shouting at the laptops in the lab but they don't listen :)18:25
davmor2cr3: that's the extra!18:25
henoI doubt we'll delay the release but we may bump the kernel before release or do an SRU18:26
cr3davmor2: I should add that to my bug reports: tried shouting but still doesn't work... /usr/bin/ubuntu-bug shout18:26
henocr3: I've seen the audio recording bugs, yes ;)18:26
henohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35462018:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 354620 in pulseaudio "Recording from microphone stutters when pulseaudio is running" [High,Confirmed]18:27
henook, anything else?18:27
heno#endmeeting18:27
MootBotMeeting finished at 12:27.18:27
cr3fader_: that was your bug, are you sure you weren't the one stuttering?18:28
henothanks everyone!18:28
fader_cr3: :P18:28
arathanks!18:28
davmor2ta18:28
xqgood day all18:29
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slangasekheno: they should be release-targeted first, for tracking23:35
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