=== bittin___ is now known as bittin` [02:00] hey folks, we're just rounding up one more council member and then we'll get ready to start this Americas board meeting :) [02:03] Isn't it meeting time? [02:03] nhandler: yes, gathering up council members [02:04] pleia2: nixternal should be around, I just talked with him [02:05] nhandler: thanks :) we just need one more for quorum and he hasn't replied to PMs [02:06] Hey cody-somerville [02:06] Hi nhandler [02:07] * mterry waves at cody-somerville [02:08] * cody-somerville waves. [02:11] sorry all, still trying to get one more [02:12] ok, we're ready to go [02:12] hola [02:12] hey nix [02:12] well howdy [02:12] nixternal: About time you showed up ;) [02:12] ok, looks like kiko isn't here [02:12] xq: you're up! [02:12] shush nhandler ;p [02:13] Hi [02:13] nixternal: your late, no burrito for you [02:13] * lamalex will have his burrito [02:13] xq: post a short introduction and links :) [02:13] I'm xq / Craig Huffstetler. Been using Ubuntu Linux, among other distros, for a while and contributing to the community. I help on Answers and in Ubuntu Bugs...and lead the Ubuntu US SC LoCo. [02:14] Links... [02:14] wiki will do [02:14] https://launchpad.net/~xq [02:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CraigHuffstetler [02:16] jesus, let me borrow some of that karma xq :) [02:16] xq: where would you say you're most active? [02:16] My LoCo and in Answers, I am trying to focus mostly on my LoCo [02:17] cool, any upcoming events loco-wise? [02:17] But in general I like to spread out a lot of my time because I am currently (in all honesty) unemployed so this is where I siphon a lot of my free time. [02:18] A lot of the current LoCo activities are about raising awareness in the community, so most of the activities (for me and members) reflect this -- whether it be with schools or community groups [02:18] mmmm burrito [02:19] as a matter of fact Technoviking...that is what I shall eat after this meeting :) [02:19] xq: any specific events coming up? [02:19] A virtual jaunty release party [02:20] To be honest, we tried to plan a jaunty release party but due to the spread of members across our state we had no response to the major active areas [02:20] So, we had to make it virtual [02:20] yeah, that happens [02:20] So, the next step is to get people together later on in the year [02:20] Is South Carolina an official LoCo? [02:20] It's sad in my eye [02:20] Not yet cody, but we would like to become one this year. It's on our road map. [02:21] does the loco have any official ubuntu members yet? [02:21] yes [02:22] DaveBush2 / myrtlebeachbums (irc name) [02:22] heh [02:22] xq: Your LP profile shows that you are a member of the QA team. What QA-related tasks do you perform? [02:23] nhandler: I have participated in the last two testing days [02:23] xq: thanks for your help with the US Teams this year :) it's nice to have you so eager to pitch in with things [02:24] I would like to give a wave for xq in helping with testing [02:24] nhandler: I also like to help on bugs when able, across the board, and help "triage" them [02:24] xq: Any plans then to join the Bug Control team? [02:24] nhandler: I get a lot exposure to bugs from the Answers forum as well, whether it be a new bug or linking an existing bug that should have more detail in it [02:24] He has been helping out and it is doing a good job when he can [02:25] xq, Where can I find logs of your loco meetings? [02:25] nhandler: I may, but I didn't think my work was done in ubuntu-quality. I have quite a few ideas for helping out more there (including policies/wiki pages) and perhaps even writing some pieces. [02:26] cody-somerville: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SouthCarolinaTeam/Meetings [02:27] xq, What are three things the South Carolina LoCo Team done to contribute back to the larger Ubuntu community that you're most proud of? [02:29] cody-somerville: I'm very proud of my members. I think that everything starts with the members & community (no matter the community). That may be number one. They contribute back to the larger community as a whole in ways that I can't as one person. [02:29] xq, Could you give some specific examples of work done that specifically you've participated in? [02:30] cody-somerville: Secondly, I would say some of our information spreading in the community (publishing articles in local newspapers, such as an article published in a local college newspaper) to raise awareness about Ubuntu and open source [02:30] Have a link to that? [02:31] cody-somerville: Also, participating in FLPC (Free Linux PC). [02:31] The Carolinian at USC Upstate [02:31] One second, let me see if it is online [02:31] Free Linux PC is at http://www.freelinuxpc.org/ [02:32] I'm actually looking for Ubuntu specific examples, not so much FLOSS ones. [02:33] THe USC Upstate example was me going back and forth attempting to get a computer lab turned into Ubuntu instead of Windows with the Dean of the dept. [02:33] I was an alumni of the college [02:33] * cody-somerville nods. [02:35] xq: cool, when was this? [02:35] It has not been converted yet, but I am still in contact with them. The last meeting was two weeks ago. [02:35] Nice! xq [02:36] It just revved up student interest with Live CDs. It may ultimately come down to dual booting, but we'll see. There are other professors on board that I knew while I was there. [02:39] is it too late to get my plug in for xq? i am us teams mentor for SC, and in the time i've observed them, xq has always been positive and friendly. He is working hard to get the SC team organized and approved. He is a great representative of the Ubuntu community. [02:39] thanks dantalizing :) [02:40] +1 from me, looking forward to seeing SC get approved this year! :) [02:41] i'm not sure SC needs a mentor... SC is moving forward thanks in great part to xq [02:42] +1 here, good work, please continue the great work in LP answers [02:43] xq, +1 for a good start to becoming a great contributor. [02:44] +1 [02:44] derr [02:44] Congratulations xq! Keep up the good work. [02:44] congrats xq, welcome! :) [02:44] congratulations, xq [02:44] Thanks guys [02:44] Congrats xq !! [02:44] :) [02:44] congrats xq [02:44] And gals [02:45] doesn't look like [02:45] wolter is here [02:45] me me me [02:45] mterry: you're up! [02:46] OK, intro: I'm a long time user (since ubuntu started), only seriously started contributing in the last year [02:46] I work for Canonical on OEM customization stuff (like Dell Mini) [02:46] Links: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mterry/Membership [02:46] https://launchpad.net/~mterry [02:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mterry/Uploads [02:47] I work on lots of different stuff, notably the install experience (ubiquity, oem-config), and GNOME stuff [02:47] done [02:48] I do more upstream work than Ubuntu, but I'm trying to tip that balance [02:48] how long has deja-dup been around? [02:48] Since October... 6 months? [02:49] It's in Jaunty now [02:49] ah ok, I hadn't heard about it but it sounds very cool :) [02:49] Nice contributions mterry!! [02:49] It is! ;) [02:50] Thanks, itnet7 [02:50] mterry: I see you have MOTU on your list for goals, is that something you think you'll get into this year? [02:51] pleia2: I'd like to. I think it's achievable [02:51] * pleia2 nods [02:53] +1 from me, fantastic work mterry (and I'm looking forward to giving deja-dup a spin!) [02:53] +1 here [02:54] pleia2: Thanks! I love bug reports [02:54] +1 here [02:55] * cody-somerville abstains as mterry is a co-worker of mine. :) [02:55] :) [02:55] congrats mterry! welcome aboard [02:55] Congrats mterry ! [02:55] Yay! [02:56] woohoo congrats mterry!!! [02:56] congratulations, mterry [02:56] Congratz mterry [02:56] Thanks all [02:57] tim_sharitt: you're up :) [02:57] I am 25 years old. I have no formal IT training, and all my knowledge is self taught. I have been an avid Linux users for about ten years now. I have used Ubuntu since 6.06. My main contribution to the community is user support, mostly via ubuntuforums.org. I do some bug triaging, but this is mostly limited to specifying packages for bugs, and an occasional comment. I am a member of the ubuntu forums beginners team. I am not much o [02:57] f a programmer, but I try to learn all that I can. I'm currently reading through the MOTU documentation to learn more about the Ubuntu packaging process. Hopefully I will know enough to be able to contribute soon. [02:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tsharitt [02:57] Heh, making the most of your 3 minutes, I see. :) [02:57] https://edge.launchpad.net/~tsharitt [02:57] I swear it looked shorter in gedit :) [02:57] hehe [02:58] I would like to say that tim_sharitt is also an active member of the Ubuntu Forums Beginners. He is very knowledgeable and always willing to help any user in need. [02:59] 3 minutes? how long did i take? [02:59] 42 [02:59] :) [02:59] that's what i thought. [02:59] that's your answer for everything [02:59] busted [03:00] tim_sharitt: your future plans are quite diverse, is there anything specific on your list that you're actively working toward now? [03:01] I working on leaning packaging right now [03:01] tim_sharitt: cool, any PPAs in the works? :) [03:01] not yet, need something to work on first :) [03:02] * itnet7 thinks if tim_sharitt can get Alabama going again, We might be able realize our Florida, Georgia, Alabama Tri-Loco Meet-up!!! [03:02] tim_sharitt: Take a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging [03:02] itnet7: that would be awesome :) [03:03] tim_sharitt: how long have you been involved with the bug work? is this something you see yourself continuing? [03:04] I've only started the bug work in the last six months, I plan to continue as well as gain more knowledge about how it all works [03:05] I just recently learned how to do a backtrace [03:05] tim_sharitt: what are your plans for the BT education group [03:06] I am hoping to be able to put together a few courses for the moodle site once it is up and going [03:08] what courses are you considering? [03:08] tim_sharitt, Can you link to your forum profile for us please? [03:09] Though I don't really know on what yet. I have been trying to think about what I am qualified with. Probably cli stuff [03:09] http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=270383 [03:10] I would like to do a beginners primer for using the command line [03:10] and build on that [03:10] tim_sharitt, Sounds good. +1 from me. [03:11] I was also just approved for the UF unanswered posts team [03:11] +1 from me, great testimonials from your team, and you have a lot of great stuff going on - keep it up! :) [03:11] just saw the PM when I got the profile link :) [03:11] +1 here as well [03:11] +1 here good forums work, Work on the Bama Loco though:) [03:12] congrats tim_sharitt! [03:12] Congratulations tim_sharitt [03:12] congratulations, tim_sharitt [03:12] Congrats!!!! [03:12] Thanks everyone :) [03:12] ok all, we're only doing 2 more this evening, the next we'll have to hold off until the next meeting [03:12] dantalizing: you're up [03:12] wohoo! dantalizing! dantalizing! dantalizing! [03:12] I've been using Ubuntu since Warty, and a member of the Florida loco since 4/2007. I was the Florida LoCo team lead from 10/2007 - 1/2009. I've help organize many release parties and other advocacy events since that time. I've helped Canonical with the Ubuntu Professional Developer training and Ubuntu Server training. [03:12] Currently I am a US Teams Mentor, and am organizing multiple release parties for Jaunty. My future plans include becoming a MOTU (I already have a mentor), and having complete support for OpenVZ in 10.04 LTS. Or at least to the extent that soren allows :) [03:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanTrevino [03:13] https://edge.launchpad.net/~dantrevino [03:13] yeah, such a show-off with all those release parties :) [03:13] :) [03:13] US-FL is making us all look bad ;) [03:13] dan is the man, he has done great work with the Florida team! [03:13] dantalizing: You mentioned you had a mentor. Just out of curiosity, who is it? [03:14] I worked with dantalizing on the Ubuntu Professional Developer training stuff in Baltimore, loads of fun, he does great work [03:14] Dan is a great contributor to the Florida Team, he was the previous team lead. He has spent a lot of time organizing different projects, and mentored other team Members in their efforts when starting out. He is involved in every event/project the Florida Team participates and has physically attended practically every event (most recently driving from Gaineseville to Miami, close to > 5 hours) [03:14] He stepped down due to expecting an addition to his family, but you could hardly notice! He hasn't skipped a beat organizing several Jaunty releases across the State! He is involved with the Server Team, bug triaging, and is really involved in too many areas to list. [03:15] nhandler: stgraber [03:15] nhandler: huats put us together [03:15] nhandler: i'm really just getting started in the motu direction though [03:16] +1 for Dan. Very solid application. [03:16] +1 from me, I am very familiar with dantalizing's exceptional work - well done! [03:16] +1 [03:17] +1 [03:17] Congratulations dantalizing ! Keep up the fantastic work. [03:17] congrats dan! [03:17] we have known dan for quite some time [03:17] congrats dantalizing! [03:17] wohoo! [03:17] thanks everyone!!! [03:17] Nice Job dantalizing You deserve it Man!! [03:17] dantalizing: what took you so long? [03:17] ok, last of the night, lamalex you're up :) [03:17] * jedijf cheers loudly for lamalex [03:17] :) [03:17] I figured you were a member for a while now, especially after seeing you at UDS [03:17] nixternal: i wanted to deserve it first [03:17] :) [03:17] ok, so- Hi, my name is Alex Launi, I'm 21. I'm a member of the Ubuntu-US-PA LoCo team, and one of the GNOME Do developers. Most of my involvement with the Ubuntu community has been through our LoCo, of which I'm one of the mailing list admins, and launchpad admins. I will be attending UDS Karmic with Canonical sponsorship. I'm active on the forums giving support, report bugs when I find them, and recently have been involved in some of the video [03:18] you cut off at "some of the video" [03:18] grr [03:18] irc [03:18] lamalex: by chance did I meet you at Penguicon last year? I know I met one of you damn GNOME Do devs :p [03:18] ... testing for the intel driver in jaunty reporting bugs on the UXA stuff for Karmic, and making sure EXA is smooth for jaunty. [03:18] nixternal: you would have met djsiegel or DBO [03:18] they were both there [03:18] ahh, ya it was DBO now that you said it [03:18] nixternal: if you were at Ubuntu Live i may have met you there [03:19] hm, I should add that to my wiki page... [03:19] so, over 2 years ago lamalex is the one I found out about the Pennsylvania LoCo from :) we were at a LUG meeting and I was like "Hey, there should be a us-pa team" and he says "THERE IS!" [03:19] heh [03:19] my wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlexLauni and LP is http://launchpad.net/~alexlauni [03:19] he's been working solidly with the US-PA LoCo since the beginning over 2 years ago [03:20] https://launchpad.net/~alexlauni [03:20] * nixternal makes a reminder to let Gabriel know to not allow lamalex near banshee from this point on :p [03:20] heh [03:20] my banshee contributions have been great mister [03:20] W00T CRITICAL MASS! [03:20] Critical Mass Chicago here! [03:20] yes, I am an avid cyclist [03:20] :) [03:20] i also worked with him for an end-user support company for about a hear and a half- very professional guy but still knows how to communicate on a human level [03:20] lamalex: I guess that explains the bumps and bruises in your pic on LP [03:20] haha yes [03:20] lamalex: favorite brand of cycle? [03:21] that was from getting hit by a car [03:21] lemme guess, fixie? [03:21] here we go.... [03:21] lol [03:21] hahaha [03:21] lamalex: how gnome-do will not open my home directory?:) [03:21] he looks like the hipster fixie type [03:21] normally, but I love road bikes, and I'm realllly looking for a cyclocross bike [03:21] nixternal: i was a messenger for a bit [03:21] :) [03:21] freelance deliveries for my friend's dad's firm downtown [03:21] just picked up a Blue Cyclocross bike...very good bike...I am a Trek fan with 2 Madones, an FX, and a 1.5...all road bikes :) [03:22] others here to cheer for lamalex? [03:22] probably going to convert my 1.5 to a fixie [03:22] what frame/ [03:22] pleia2: o/ [03:22] * jedijf cheers again [03:22] heh we're so offtopic :) [03:22] hahahaha [03:22] * erstazi cheers for lamalex [03:22] * ssweeny cheers for lamalex [03:22] :) [03:22] shhh its your strength [03:22] * bts3685 cheers for lamalex [03:22] * Taim cheers for lamalex [03:22] * jthan cheers for lamalex [03:22] on topic- I tried to start an ubuntu cycling team a loong time ago [03:22] it's started [03:22] * nixternal notes he is on the Ubuntu Cyclists team on LP -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cyclists for you other cyclists in here :) [03:22] #ubuntu-cyclists [03:23] * ssweeny is idling in that channel right now [03:23] it kind of failed, and then ubuntu-cyclists popped up [03:23] argh, I didn't even know we had an IRC channel [03:23] tried to get the ML going, it died a little bit [03:23] ok, let's get this thing rolling [03:23] i would really like to see if we can get a ride at UDS [03:23] +1 from me, fantastic work these past couple years, lamalex :) [03:23] +1 from me [03:23] nixternal: next UDS in paris, we'll do the champs-elysee [03:23] +1 here [03:23] +1 for lamalex... seen some good stuff on the forums from him! [03:23] lamalex: I am so there! [03:23] lamalex: congrats!! [03:24] congrats lamalex !!! [03:24] Congrats lamalex ! [03:24] congrats lamalex! [03:24] lamalex: Congrats! [03:24] try to stay /on/ the bike [03:24] Congrats 42 [03:24] woohooo lamalex [03:24] Huzzah. [03:24] congrats!! [03:24] djsiegel: ahhh, I remember you from penguicon [03:24] I was the drunk guy! [03:24] hahahah [03:24] nixternal: hmmm [03:24] the drunk guy... [03:25] there was only one? [03:25] lol [03:25] you were at Jorge's party the night before too? [03:25] slow con [03:25] not much of a con [03:25] yeah [03:25] nixternal: the drunk guy [03:25] I was the guy who made out with jcastro in the room!!! [03:25] nixternal: score! [03:25] /part [03:25] jorge is dreamy [03:25] damn, that shouldn't have gone public [03:25] /fail [03:25] hahahahahah [03:25] jorge is every ubunteros dream man [03:25] nixternal: unless there are pictures, it didn't happen [03:26] nixternal: I feel sorry for him [03:26] screenshot [03:26] boredandblogging: there are pictures [03:26] thanks for coming to the meeting everyone :) congrats to our new members! [03:26] Great meeting everyone [03:26] nixternal: duuuuude [03:26] nixternal: am I up? [03:26] congrats to all new members [03:26] or is meeting over? [03:26] How often are the meetings? [03:26] don't tease us like that! [03:26] djsiegel: They are done for the night [03:26] thanks guys! [03:26] woo! [03:27] ok, cool [03:27] hold on [03:27] we are going to get it over with I hope [03:27] djsiegel: you are up! [03:27] whew, that was close [03:27] ok... [03:28] "My name is David Siegel, and I began my involvement with Ubuntu a few years ago as a part time user, and became actively engaged as a full-time user and developer a year and half ago when I founded the GNOME Do project." https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DJSiegel [03:29] you're the founder? ROCK ON! [03:29] when I'm not gallivanting with drunk guys at penguicon, I am gallivanting with drunk guys in #gnome-do [03:29] and drunk guys at Canonical, my new employer [03:30] (if you don't know Do, http://do.davebsd.com -- I highly recommend installing it) [03:30] (but I am biased) [03:30] so I know lamalex, of course [03:30] and DBO [03:30] they are great Do devs [03:30] so, anyway [03:30] * Hobbsee <3 gnome-do [03:30] from the beginning, Do has been targeted for Ubuntu, much to the chagrin of our friends at Novell [03:30] * nixternal <3 Hobbsee when she lets people know there is 5 minutes left! [03:30] my goal was to (1) make full use of Launchpad and engage the community [03:31] (2) get more people using Ubuntu, which they would enjoy more because of Do [03:31] nixternal: now that's what gnome do needs! A timer function! [03:31] Hobbsee: that is actually queued [03:31] I think a plugin just went to our list [03:31] djsiegel: sweet. Then I can stop using my phone to remind me to remind everyone else about the 5 minute mark :) [03:32] I bet [03:32] oh, cool, do works for ssh hosts again. [03:32] you could set the screenshot plugin to take a screenshot in 5 minutes ;) [03:33] I am saying this to try to make it clear that I sincerely believe Do /is/ a significant contribution to Ubuntu in particular, which may not be clear since it's upstream [03:33] but now I am working on the user experience team at Canonical [03:33] and will work with the community for the next long while to get everyone excited about making linux sexy [03:33] *sexier [03:33] djsiegel: specifically on the desktop, what kinds of things aside from Do are you working on? [03:33] my launchpad page; https://edge.launchpad.net/~djsiegel [03:34] well, we have this new project called Ayatana [03:34] djsiegel: Hobbsee re timer plugin, there are few bugs left to work out, should be done soon says the dev [03:34] the first component of Ayatana is the notifications, which we are still working very hard on [03:34] djsiegel: What are your views on how the Dx team has interacted with the community in the Jaunty cycle? [03:34] boredandblogging: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronthul/2431683165/ [03:34] ScottK: so, this was our first cycle and I think we learned a hell of a lot [03:35] nixternal: you know thats showing up in the planet in a few minutes, right? [03:35] I really think we've started on the right foot, but some important lessons were learned [03:35] What do you think could be improved for karmic then? [03:35] nixternal: ew [03:35] ScottK: well, I was not involved for much of the Jaunty cycle [03:35] hahahahaha [03:35] nixternal: That photo is coming to the release party ;) [03:35] boredandblogging: nevah! [03:35] but, the community /is/ Ubuntu [03:36] it is our greatest strength, our greatest advantage [03:36] So you feel like Dx integrated well with the community then? [03:36] it's a necessary condition for the success of Ubuntu that the Dx, Ux, and community find equilibrium [03:36] And I am extremely excited to be a part of that! [03:37] well, I think there are some rough PR edges that have been smoothed over [03:37] So the only problems are PR? [03:37] Is ayatana planning to incrementally test new ideas in the development release, or are they planning to only throw out finished features? Also, how much community action are they looking for? [03:37] I was told that notify-osd was greeting with some frustration at UDS [03:38] I have yet to see any positive feedback from the community on the update-notifier changes. [03:38] ScottK, like I said, I was not involved with Ux/Dx during the cycle, so my impression of Dx/community integration for Jaunty is mostly second hand. [03:38] ScottK: really? I have seen mixed feedbacl. [03:38] And how much does ayatana plan to use non-canonical feedback, in the Karmic cycle? [03:38] I criticized it heavily when it was made public :) [03:38] djsiegel: About update-notifier? [03:39] oh, no, I meant notify-osd [03:39] I've seen mixed feedback about the notification design, but the update-notifier feedback that I've seen was pretty unmixed. [03:39] I do not know much about update-notifier changes yet, but I do know I just toasted my netbook and desktop with Jaunty updates. [03:39] I have not been involved with update-notifier at all. [03:39] But this is an evolving process. [03:39] great work djsiegel :) +1 from me [03:40] +1 from me as well [03:40] The team is still forming, I just joined a few weeks ago! [03:41] +1 from me [03:41] BURRITO! [03:41] +1 [03:41] congrats djsiegel :) [03:42] djsiegel has great vision, and is a huuge asset [03:42] cool beans burrito [03:42] also, he introduced me to the best burritos in philly [03:42] Congratulations djsiegel ! [03:42] booyakasha [03:43] yeah dude! congrats [03:44] I think that is it for tonight. great neeting everyone [03:44] thank you pleia2 Technoviking cody-somerville nixternal itnet7 boredandblogging stgraber nhandler [03:44] no, thank you all :) [03:45] BURRITO!!! [03:45] Isn't it a little late for a burrito nixternal ? [03:45] never! [03:46] * nixternal drives down to google and wakes up Sussman and Fitz [03:48] johnso is bye bye [03:56] nixternal: hmm, from Chicago to MountainView, that can take a while :) === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === calc_ is now known as calc === Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty [06:33] Hi guys [06:34] When I login to my launchpad profile,I find that I lost 10,000 karma's.What happened? [06:34] vikashkoushik: best to ask in #launchpad [06:35] thanks === KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke === GunbladeIV- is now known as GunbladeIV === Ash_R is now known as The_Wolf === The_Wolf is now known as Ash_R === Rafik_ is now known as Rafik === bittin` is now known as bittin^` [15:54] hey jcollado, you know when the qa meeting is? [15:54] eeejay: Hi. I think it's in 6 minutes [15:56] jcollado: cool, thanks [15:58] it was later last week [15:58] if it is the same time then it will be 2 hours [16:01] james_w: Thanks. I think I've to fix my calendar [16:04] phew [16:05] eeejay: it's at the same time but the uk clocks are forward an hour so it is an hour latter here ie 1800 bst [16:06] davmor2: the calendar says GMT despite DST [16:06] 1700 UTC ? [16:07] eeejay: are you sure it should say utc === tuxlinux_ is now known as tuxlinux [17:59] hello folks! [17:59] hey! [17:59] hi [17:59] hey [18:00] hola hola :) [18:02] fader_, sbeattie, ogasawara: ping [18:02] Here, just finishing an email, sorry :) [18:02] heno: oops, I'm here now [18:02] np [18:02] hey [18:02] ok, let's start [18:02] #startmeeting [18:02] Meeting started at 12:02. The chair is heno. [18:02] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [18:03] agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings some standing items and RC/Final testing [18:03] UbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro [18:03] well i wasn't around that day so can't talk too much about the hug day [18:04] [TOPIC]: UbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro [18:04] New Topic: : UbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro [18:04] just looking at the page it seems it went pretty fine [18:04] (for the record) [18:04] hello [18:04] The timing was a bit unfortunate since the archive was frozen [18:04] * charlie-tca waves [18:04] So it required more work to sponsor uploads [18:05] right [18:05] what's the next bug day? [18:05] However, we did get some bugs fixed which is great! [18:05] always good :) [18:06] heno: catch new bugs for SRUs and Karmic - schedule for 20090430 [18:06] ok, great [18:06] ogasawara: did you want to mention kernel bug days? [18:06] pedro_: there was some discussion regarding having a tagging bugs bug day I'm not sure if it made the planning page [18:07] heno: yes [18:07] the kernel team recently had a sprint where they decided they'll be holding two kernel team bug days a month [18:08] each member of the kernel team has a specific list of bugs to focus on but we also wanted to get community participation in the future [18:08] bdmurray: there's nothing related to that on the planning page, will add it to the ideas section [18:08] ogasawara: is the schedule set? [18:08] pedro_: we'd discussed creating a pool of bugs that might need a tag [18:08] pedro_: so ones with patches that need a debdiff should get a bitesize tag [18:09] heno: we held the first one yesterday, and I believe the intention is to hold it every 2 weeks [18:09] ogasawara: is there information somewhere? [18:09] ara: I need to migrate it to the public wiki [18:09] ogasawara: ok, thx [18:09] ogasawara: please post to lists and/or blog aboit it before the next one [18:09] heno: will do [18:10] [TOPIC] New bug control members! -- bdmurray [18:10] New Topic: New bug control members! -- bdmurray [18:10] bdmurray: ok noted [18:10] Nothing to report [18:10] ok [18:10] :) [18:10] [TOPIC] RC and Final ISO testing -- heno [18:10] New Topic: RC and Final ISO testing -- heno [18:11] So today is crunch day for RC ISO testing [18:11] if you're not already please join us in #ubuntu-testing [18:11] remaining cases are here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/all [18:12] are we tracking the changes made this week to validate after RC? [18:13] e.g. the Kubuntu OEM installer fails to start [18:13] that and similar fixes shiuld be smoke-checked Friday [18:14] slangasek: do all the fixes that go in at this point get release milestoned first? [18:14] IOW can we use that list to track them? [18:15] wouldn't they get closed and thus be in the relatively big list of closed bugs w/9.04 as a milestone? [18:15] fader_, davmor2: can you guys work together to make sure we check on these fixes Friday/Weekend? [18:15] we can filter on date_fixed or so [18:15] heno: yes [18:15] heno: roger [18:15] sbeattie: yes, but closed this week [18:16] (we can take the method for finding/tracking them off line) [18:17] Next week fader_ and I will be in the release war room in London [18:17] we can always track from the list of bugs on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/all [18:17] davmor2: not all the bugs go there, though [18:18] please be available next week for last-minute ISO testing, ISOs primed ect :) [18:18] schwuk: do we have an emergency mirror up? [18:18] heno: I think he has [18:19] schwuk: can you send out access details to those who need them? [18:19] (platform team and active testers in #ubuntu-testing) [18:20] heno: sure [18:21] * mgunes sneaks in at last minute [18:21] ok thanks [18:21] Are there any other topics? [18:21] otherwise we can get on with testing ... [18:21] * heno waves to mgunes [18:22] heno: is there a recommended way to bring attention to particularly serious bugs? hibernation, trackpad not working, volume wheel, etc... basic stuff [18:22] those mostly sound kernel bugs to me right ogasawara? [18:23] heno: my testing today has uncovered some bugs which I hope have known workarounds such as installing lrm or somesuch [18:23] cr3: USE CAPITALS AND !!!!!!!!! ;) [18:23] cr3: do you have bug #'s we can reference? [18:23] davmor2: you missed a few "1" in those exclamations :) [18:23] cr3: but note that the kernel is frozen so unless kittens are dieing it'll likely have to wait for SRU [18:23] ogasawara: I'll be sending a report shortly and, since they are indeed mostly kernel related, I'll copy you on my message [18:23] cr3: perfect, thanks [18:23] cr3: can you retarget your checkbox/0.7 tree to jaunty-proposed? [18:24] cr3: you can assign it one one of these teams http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/ and ask slangasek if he things it warrants Release Critical milestoning [18:24] ogasawara: my concern stops at providing pertinent information to the right people :) [18:24] sbeattie: we'll talk about that after the meeting, but thanks for bringing that up [18:24] cr3: okay [18:25] cr3: shout esp loud if these are regressions on Certified HW [18:25] heno: I've been shouting at the laptops in the lab but they don't listen :) [18:25] cr3: that's the extra! [18:26] I doubt we'll delay the release but we may bump the kernel before release or do an SRU [18:26] davmor2: I should add that to my bug reports: tried shouting but still doesn't work... /usr/bin/ubuntu-bug shout [18:26] cr3: I've seen the audio recording bugs, yes ;) [18:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/354620 [18:27] Launchpad bug 354620 in pulseaudio "Recording from microphone stutters when pulseaudio is running" [High,Confirmed] [18:27] ok, anything else? [18:27] #endmeeting [18:27] Meeting finished at 12:27. [18:28] fader_: that was your bug, are you sure you weren't the one stuttering? [18:28] thanks everyone! [18:28] cr3: :P [18:28] thanks! [18:28] ta [18:29] good day all === Lure_ is now known as Lure === Ash_R is now known as The_Wolf === The_Wolf is now known as Red_Riding_Hood [20:46] 4 === Red_Riding_Hood is now known as Ash_R === mcas is now known as mcas_ === mcas_ is now known as mcas__ === mcas__ is now known as mcas === beuno_ is now known as beuno === jussi01 is now known as android === Ash_R is now known as Little_Red_Ridin === Little_Red_Ridin is now known as Red_Riding_Hood === asac_ is now known as asac [23:35] heno: they should be release-targeted first, for tracking === Red_Riding_Hood is now known as Ash_R