/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/04/15/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

yellowkingIf I want to record every, say, Spongebob episode with no dupes across any channel, is that "Record at any time on any channel?  That sounds like it won't check duplicates, but there is the "Duplicate Check Method" in the advanced options...is that always on?02:07
superm1it's on by default02:14
superm1watch our for marathons tho, sometimes you'll get like 20 episodes at once02:14
yellowkingIs there any way to set a limit on the size of a storage group?02:28
superm1artificial partition sizing is the best way i can think02:35
yellowkingSo, I set up a few "record at any time on any channel."  My Upcoming Recordings is empty, though.  Should be recording something at 10 Eastern (in 10 mins) though.  Does this sound correct?02:49
superm1exit the menu and come back02:55
superm1sometimes takes a min to refresh02:55
yellowkingI'm checking from both the mythtv menu and the web interface...been a while, still nothing.02:56
Digital-PioneerHey, does anyone know how well/if at all Mythbuntu works on a PS3?02:57
Digital-Pioneer!help02:57
Zinn!help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].02:57
superm1Digital-Pioneer, you cant install it on the ps3 and expect that good of performance, but you can play recordings from another backend via upnp02:58
superm1yellowking, in the web interface you can set the checkboxes to see why its not in that list of upcoming02:58
yellowkingI have all 4 checked02:59
Digital-Pioneersuperm1, IC. Why is that exactly? The PS3 hardware should be more than capable of running it smoothly.02:59
yellowkingDisplay: Scheduled, Duplicates, Deactivated, Conflicts.  If I go to "Recording Schedules" tab, they are all there.02:59
yellowkingIs there a scheduler that runs periodically to pick those up and schedule them?03:01
superm1Digital-Pioneer, last i heard you wont have video acceleration in linux however03:03
superm1if you are in the PS3 OS (which supports UPNP), you will03:04
Digital-PioneerOh, yeah, I heard that.03:08
Digital-PioneerStill, with 7 threads optimized for graphical processing... I would think you'd be OK... Hahah03:08
superm1yellowking, it's within a minute or two that that happens03:08
superm1it is periodic yes03:08
Digital-PioneerWell, 6 threads actually.03:09
superm1Digital-Pioneer, i dont think all the SPE's are exposed in linux either03:09
Digital-PioneerOne is disabled, another is reserved for the OS -- I assume that's the one running the hypervisor.03:09
Digital-PioneerIDK though.03:09
Digital-PioneerNot sure how the PS3 OS operates...03:09
superm1in any case, if you want to try you have the other issue that there is no mythbuntu PPC disk03:10
superm1you'd have to start from an ubuntu base and transplant in the meta packages03:10
superm1they build for PPC for people like you, but they're not tested by any developers03:10
Digital-PioneerHmm, well I assume APT will handle that, no?03:10
superm1yeah, they're all available on the ports mirror - well any that didn't fail to build at least03:11
superm1which i think everything should be available03:11
yellowkingOkay, I've got something boogered up.  Put a new drive in and mounted it under /var/lib/mythtv.  copied everything over, but can't watch LiveTV.  Previous recordings are showing okay03:16
superm1check the permissions on the top directory03:16
superm1(/var/lib/mythtv)03:17
superm1they should be mythtv:mythtv owned03:17
yellowkingWas root:root, but still can't watch TV03:18
yellowkingGetting mesg: 2009-04-14 22:16:44.570 ERROR when trying to delete file: /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/andy-mythtv/1116_20090413233615.mpg. File doesn't exist.  Database metadata will not be removed.03:18
superm1need to restart mythbackend03:18
yellowkingNo go03:18
yellowkingPretty sure that msg is from me manually deleting some live TV recording on my old disk, when space was tight...03:19
superm1is it rwxrwx--- at minimum for permissions?03:19
yellowking /var/lib/mythtv/LiveTV is, but /var/lib/mythtv is 75503:20
yellowkingLiveTV is 775 setgid  mythtv:mythtv03:20
superm1well post the log from a fresh mythbackend run so we can see all the surrounding errors and information when you try to start live03:21
yellowkingk03:21
yellowkingAny pastebin you prefer?03:21
superm1whatever is most convenient for you03:22
yellowkingsuperm1: http://pastebin.com/d1adb8a0a03:24
yellowkingThat expiration is some LiveTV I was watching last night, I had to manually clear up the files because the disk filled up on me.03:25
superm1#03:25
superm12009-04-14 22:21:26.669 mythbackend: Problem with capture cards: Card 1failed init03:25
superm1#03:25
superm1ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.03:25
superm1that's what worries me why your live wouldnt work03:26
yellowkingwat03:26
yellowkingOkay, huh, that used to work...wonder if my SATA controller is conflicting.03:26
yellowkingPut a new SATA controller and disk in...disk is working03:26
superm1open up mythtv-setup and poke around in there03:26
superm1those sorts of conflicts aren't very common in hardware these days, but who knows03:27
yellowkingWell, I don't see my Hauphauge in lspci...03:27
yellowking****!03:27
yellowkingNo, there it is, Conexant03:27
yellowking[   16.370617] tveeprom 0-0050: Encountered bad packet header [94]. Corrupt or not a Hauppauge eeprom.03:28
yellowking****!03:28
superm1give the system a cold boot03:28
yellowkingokay03:28
superm1and if that doesnt help make sure it's still seated well03:28
superm1and/or reseat it03:28
superm1if that still doesn't help, start swapping around pci slots i thinks03:29
yellowkingwill do03:29
yellowkingthx03:29
yellowkingThings seem much better now, superm1.  Thanks!03:41
superm1great, what was it?03:42
yellowkingDunno.  Powered it off for a bit and it came up detecting the Haup and mounted the disk.  Couldn't watch TV, but restarted the backend and it started playing.03:43
tgm4883frink__, just checking if there was an update on the server situation.  Is it still being worked on?04:16
=== bogus- is now known as bogus`_
r3zWhats the deal with the site?13:55
rhpot1991r3z: hardware failure14:08
rhpot1991its being worked on14:08
r3zNeed someone to host it temporarily?14:09
* r3z can host it as long as I dont have to serve up the isos too.14:09
rhpot1991r3z: not really, there was talks of doing some distributed system with mirrors though14:09
r3zI will help out..14:09
superm1frink__, can you maybe supply a backup in the interim so we can get it back up somewhere until you have your hosting back up and running?  we've gotten a few people who are willing to help split up the load for now (like r3z above)?15:12
* r3z can set up a site in the interim. I can have the site up and running as fast as I can get the backup and the dns records updated ;) 15:13
r3zWe could also set up a round robin selection if there are others to help out..15:13
rhpot1991r3z: there have been a few volenteers already, I don't think we have a backup available at this point though15:17
superm1i think the worry about doing round robin was that mysql inconsistencies on different mirrors15:17
r3zWe can put up a temp site to direct users here.15:17
r3zLet one site manage the db?15:17
superm1frink__ said he's got the data still, so if it's gonna be a while till the hosting is back up, I think if he can get us /srv (or /var/www) and the sql tables we can at least get a temporary site back up indeed15:19
superm1really dont want to rebuild the site from scratch and google cache again tho15:19
rhpot1991superm1: those issues can be a headache, my server was that time and its impossible to get updates cause everyone is running around chasing fires15:20
rhpot1991s/was/was out/15:20
superm1yeah i can see that being troublesome15:20
superm1well you know, it's gonna be hard to do an RC otherwise...15:21
rhpot1991thats the kinda thing that puts hosting companies under too15:21
superm1r3z maybe can you do a static page from google cache, with some basic text explaining the main hosting is down atm, but we're still gonna do RC and what not15:21
r3zI can but of course I dont have access to the DNS records ;)15:22
superm1tgm4883 can still mirror the RC isos and what not15:22
rhpot1991we were honestly worried that our place was going under and we were gonna have to go pick up the server15:22
superm1once something is together we can ping the guy here with dns access and redirect it to you until hosting is sorted out15:22
superm1rhpot1991, yikes that could be bad15:22
superm1i dont even know where in the world mythbuntu.org lived :)15:23
rhpot1991turns out they were just moving15:23
rhpot1991heh, I nominate tgm4883 to go find it15:23
tgm4883frink__, ping15:23
r3zI only have about 200gb of transfer left this month so I couldnt really help with hosting the isos but we could put the torrents up there.15:24
r3zAnd link to whoever had the isos hosted.15:24
superm1tgm4883 maybe send him an email, he might just be away from IRC doing $WORK  or something :)15:24
tgm4883ok15:24
superm1r3z, yeah we have plenty of mirrors dedicated solely for ISOs, we only host the site on the central server15:24
r3zNo problem.15:25
r3zSOmeone grab me a scrape of the page and throw up some information about the outage and I will put it up to host it.15:26
* r3z needs to get the records and so forth up ;) 15:26
tgm4883superm1, how you want me to mirror them?15:26
superm1tgm4883, oh you kept the mirroring script on mythbuntu.org i bet huh?15:26
tgm4883superm1, thats where it's mirrored from15:27
superm1oh15:27
r3zheh.15:27
tgm4883all the mirrors grab it from there15:27
r3zGet me the script and I will throw it up there too..15:27
tgm4883there is no script, IIRC, all the mirrors do rsync now15:27
r3zAhh. hrm.15:27
tgm4883I can get the isos no problem15:27
rhpot1991google cahe doesn't seem to be doing its job15:27
tgm4883but the mirrors need to be able to rsync from you15:28
tgm4883so if you want to set that up, that is fine15:30
superm1rhpot1991, hm that's not good15:30
rhpot1991superm1: I think its trying to point at images that it can't see15:30
rhpot1991<img src="http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/ub-pill.png"15:30
rhpot1991yep15:30
tgm4883rhpot1991, it doesn't cache images15:30
superm1rhpot1991, well you know where else we have a cached site... the intrepid source package of mythbuntu-default-settings!15:30
rhpot1991superm1: for real?15:31
superm1yeah15:31
* r3z has the vhost set up now.15:31
superm1well just the CSS, and basic static html, yeah15:31
r3zJust need the backup\temp site and point DNS.15:31
superm1r3z, ok cool thanks15:31
rhpot1991superm1: where does it live in here?15:34
superm1rhpot1991, usr/share/mythbuntu/home15:34
rhpot1991superm1: http://www.baablogic.net/mythbuntu/website/index.html15:37
superm1rhpot1991, great! can you add http://paste.ubuntu.com/151486/ to it?15:37
superm1then we can get r3z to snag that content and we'll get dns redirected15:38
r3zrhpot1991, tar that and send me a link to download it ;)15:39
superm1and then we can add other mirrors as soon as we sort out how to mirror everything15:42
superm1r3z, in the interim what's the IP for us to redirect to?  I'll ping that guy with yours15:43
superm1k cool15:44
rhpot1991superm1: http://www.baablogic.net/mythbuntu/website/index.html15:46
rhpot1991I killed all the links too15:46
rhpot1991and added one for the cdimages15:46
superm1cool looks good15:47
rhpot1991r3z: get my pm?15:50
r3zya15:50
r3zSet my IP as mythbuntu.org in your hosts file and refresh and it is up.15:51
r3zJust waiting on DNS now.15:51
r3zWanna stick the information for the IRC channel on the page?15:51
r3zSince forums are down if anyone has questions they can come here.15:52
superm1forums should still be up; they're hosted at ubuntuforums15:52
tgm4883forums aren't down?15:52
r3zahh nevermind15:52
r3zWe need to link to them then probably..15:53
* tgm4883 still isn't sure what you guys want me to do about the ISO's15:53
=== superm1 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Main mythbuntu website (http://mythbuntu.org) is down :: ISOs still available at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu :: Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com Please stick around for people to answer your question
superm1yeah a link to them in that flat html file would probably be good15:54
superm1here's the url: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=30115:54
r3zDone.15:56
r3zsuperm1, rhpot1991 check pm ;)15:58
r3zerr notice even.15:58
superm1awesome looks great.15:58
r3z;)15:58
superm1thanks15:58
r3znp.15:58
rhpot1991look good15:58
r3zLet me know when DNS is updated ;)16:00
r3zIf anyone has the torrent files I can stick them up there too..16:00
r3zIf the tracker wasnt on the same server heh.16:00
tgm4883it's not16:00
r3zok.16:01
r3zGet me the torrents and I will throw them up there as well.16:01
r3zOff to load up mythbuntu 8.10 on a friends machine ;)17:35
r3zbbl17:35
superm1r3z, okay the dns change should be made.  will just take some time to propagate and what not18:01
tgm4883superm1, already good here18:39
superm1ah it is in new york too18:40
superm1and in tx18:40
tgm4883superm1, a quick note, that iso link will need to get fixed18:40
superm1tgm4883, how so?18:40
tgm4883look where it points18:40
superm1yeah until we have something figured out for mirroring, it will do the trick won't it?18:41
tgm4883should probably point to somehting like http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.04/beta/18:41
tgm4883only  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.04/rc/18:41
tgm4883or whatever the naming schema is there18:41
superm1oh i see what you mean18:41
rhpot1991pm that guy, its static html he can just change it18:42
superm1yeah that's probably a good idea, but not until we actually get our rc spun18:42
tgm4883rhpot1991, well we need to figure out what it is first18:42
tgm4883yea18:42
superm1slangasek is going to respin the disk with the mesa fix after ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, unr, and studio are done18:42
superm1tgm4883, i take it no response from frink yet about an ETA?18:44
tgm4883nope18:45
superm1rhpot1991, can you keep a tarball of this "recovery" site on arctangent in case we ever need to do this in the future?18:50
rhpot1991superm1: ya not a problem18:50
superm1i think it's good to have around and be able to flip up if necessary18:51
superm1cool18:51
rhpot1991superm1: we should look at maybe having a mirror too18:51
rhpot1991even if we don't redirect to it, if we sync nightly and can just flip a switch to switch over that would be a good idea18:51
superm1yeah maybe that's the better solution than the round robin too since we dont have the problem with keeping SQL databases in sync18:54
superm1or with SQL request over  the internets18:54
tgm4883!topic18:54
ZinnSorry I don't know about topic18:54
r3ztgm4883, what you want me to update the link to?18:54
superm1r3z, for now can you put it at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/current/18:55
superm1and we'll update it once the RC is ready?18:55
r3zk18:55
rhpot1991tgm4883: why are you yelling at us :)18:55
tgm4883rhpot1991, I yell, thats what I dod ;)18:56
rhpot1991tgm4883: watch 24 yet?18:56
r3zDone.18:56
tgm4883rhpot1991, not yet18:57
tgm4883I watched southland and house18:57
rhpot1991tgm4883: let me know when you do, so we can discuss18:57
rhpot1991haven't seen this weeks house yet18:58
rhpot1991what did you think of southland?18:58
tgm4883southland is pretty good18:58
rhpot1991I think it has potential18:58
r3zBleh just loaded up mythbuntu 8.10 on a friends box with an hvr-1600 and it isnt working :*(18:59
r3zBlack screen when wanting to watch tv :(19:01
superm1r3z, check dmesg for information about firmware loading and errors and what not19:02
r3zYa looking now19:02
tgm4883!logs19:02
ZinnMythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.19:02
r3zJust got ssh'd into the box ;)19:02
rhpot1991r3z: I think there are firmware issues there, my understanding is that there were multiple different versions and you need to make sure you have a match19:02
rhpot1991might want to check this too (but I doubt its the issue):19:02
rhpot1991!blank%19:02
ZinnIf you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory19:02
r3zHe also has onboard hdmi out and I gotta look at that too..19:05
rhpot1991r3z: video should work pretty easily, sound may be another question.  I hear Jaunty's alsa has much better support there19:08
r3zk.19:09
r3zI gotta figure out why it isnt even sending right now. I doubt X is configured to handle it. We are using DVI right now.19:09
r3zAnyone know of a way to force a vnc session on the console?19:13
r3zI try vncserver :0 and it says its already running I am assuming because X is running.19:14
* r3z doesnt use VNC hardly ever lol19:14
r3zMay have set the card wrong. I cant run mythtv-setup from the stupid vnc session though :(19:18
rhpot1991r3z: forward X over ssh, ssh -X19:28
r3zbtw I added a redirect from mythbuntu.org/downloads to the main index since it is a main link off of google when searching for mythbuntu19:30
r3zGotta love how slow X over ssh is ;)19:43
r3zmythtv-setup is still bombing. Never comes up goes straight from killing the backend to do you want to run mythfilldb19:48
r3z:(19:48
superm1r3z, on 9.04? there is a bug with swrast right now19:50
superm1it's fixed in the mesa in UNAPPROVED19:50
r3zNah. 8.1019:50
rhpot1991he is on intrepid I think19:50
superm1or on my ppa19:50
superm1oh19:50
r3zmythbackend segfaults when running over remote X or vnc :(19:51
r3z[ 4760.770582] mythbackend[1049]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000 sp bfe1cdc0 error 4 in mythbackend[8048000+118000]19:52
superm1r3z, that's odd.  do you have a stack trace?20:06
superm1er did apport trigger or anything?20:06
r3znothing from apport20:20
r3zand no stack trace20:21
r3z * Starting MythTV server: mythbackend                                                                                                                       Segmentation fault20:21
r3zrunning service mythtv-backend start with sudo.20:21
ajhtiredwolfHey, I have a great mythbuntu setup, however I want to upgrade from my Audigy 2, it doesn't support Digital out. I was wondering if anyone had a good recommendation for digital out, if done some research and the Omega Striker looks like a good bet, but there are some negative reviews on it inubuntu as well21:26
r3ztgm4883, you around?21:55
tgm4883yep21:56
r3zpm?21:56
tgm4883ok21:57
J_eremyso whats going on?  servers are down again?  lol22:35

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