[02:07] <yellowking> If I want to record every, say, Spongebob episode with no dupes across any channel, is that "Record at any time on any channel?  That sounds like it won't check duplicates, but there is the "Duplicate Check Method" in the advanced options...is that always on?
[02:14] <superm1> it's on by default
[02:14] <superm1> watch our for marathons tho, sometimes you'll get like 20 episodes at once
[02:28] <yellowking> Is there any way to set a limit on the size of a storage group?
[02:35] <superm1> artificial partition sizing is the best way i can think
[02:49] <yellowking> So, I set up a few "record at any time on any channel."  My Upcoming Recordings is empty, though.  Should be recording something at 10 Eastern (in 10 mins) though.  Does this sound correct?
[02:55] <superm1> exit the menu and come back
[02:55] <superm1> sometimes takes a min to refresh
[02:56] <yellowking> I'm checking from both the mythtv menu and the web interface...been a while, still nothing.
[02:57] <Digital-Pioneer> Hey, does anyone know how well/if at all Mythbuntu works on a PS3?
[02:57] <Digital-Pioneer> !help
[02:57] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[02:58] <superm1> Digital-Pioneer, you cant install it on the ps3 and expect that good of performance, but you can play recordings from another backend via upnp
[02:58] <superm1> yellowking, in the web interface you can set the checkboxes to see why its not in that list of upcoming
[02:59] <yellowking> I have all 4 checked
[02:59] <Digital-Pioneer> superm1, IC. Why is that exactly? The PS3 hardware should be more than capable of running it smoothly.
[02:59] <yellowking> Display: Scheduled, Duplicates, Deactivated, Conflicts.  If I go to "Recording Schedules" tab, they are all there.
[03:01] <yellowking> Is there a scheduler that runs periodically to pick those up and schedule them?
[03:03] <superm1> Digital-Pioneer, last i heard you wont have video acceleration in linux however
[03:04] <superm1> if you are in the PS3 OS (which supports UPNP), you will
[03:08] <Digital-Pioneer> Oh, yeah, I heard that.
[03:08] <Digital-Pioneer> Still, with 7 threads optimized for graphical processing... I would think you'd be OK... Hahah
[03:08] <superm1> yellowking, it's within a minute or two that that happens
[03:08] <superm1> it is periodic yes
[03:09] <Digital-Pioneer> Well, 6 threads actually.
[03:09] <superm1> Digital-Pioneer, i dont think all the SPE's are exposed in linux either
[03:09] <Digital-Pioneer> One is disabled, another is reserved for the OS -- I assume that's the one running the hypervisor.
[03:09] <Digital-Pioneer> IDK though.
[03:09] <Digital-Pioneer> Not sure how the PS3 OS operates...
[03:10] <superm1> in any case, if you want to try you have the other issue that there is no mythbuntu PPC disk
[03:10] <superm1> you'd have to start from an ubuntu base and transplant in the meta packages
[03:10] <superm1> they build for PPC for people like you, but they're not tested by any developers
[03:10] <Digital-Pioneer> Hmm, well I assume APT will handle that, no?
[03:11] <superm1> yeah, they're all available on the ports mirror - well any that didn't fail to build at least
[03:11] <superm1> which i think everything should be available
[03:16] <yellowking> Okay, I've got something boogered up.  Put a new drive in and mounted it under /var/lib/mythtv.  copied everything over, but can't watch LiveTV.  Previous recordings are showing okay
[03:16] <superm1> check the permissions on the top directory
[03:17] <superm1> (/var/lib/mythtv)
[03:17] <superm1> they should be mythtv:mythtv owned
[03:18] <yellowking> Was root:root, but still can't watch TV
[03:18] <yellowking> Getting mesg: 2009-04-14 22:16:44.570 ERROR when trying to delete file: /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/andy-mythtv/1116_20090413233615.mpg. File doesn't exist.  Database metadata will not be removed.
[03:18] <superm1> need to restart mythbackend
[03:18] <yellowking> No go
[03:19] <yellowking> Pretty sure that msg is from me manually deleting some live TV recording on my old disk, when space was tight...
[03:19] <superm1> is it rwxrwx--- at minimum for permissions?
[03:20] <yellowking>  /var/lib/mythtv/LiveTV is, but /var/lib/mythtv is 755
[03:20] <yellowking> LiveTV is 775 setgid  mythtv:mythtv
[03:21] <superm1> well post the log from a fresh mythbackend run so we can see all the surrounding errors and information when you try to start live
[03:21] <yellowking> k
[03:21] <yellowking> Any pastebin you prefer?
[03:22] <superm1> whatever is most convenient for you
[03:24] <yellowking> superm1: http://pastebin.com/d1adb8a0a
[03:25] <yellowking> That expiration is some LiveTV I was watching last night, I had to manually clear up the files because the disk filled up on me.
[03:25] <superm1> #
[03:25] <superm1> 2009-04-14 22:21:26.669 mythbackend: Problem with capture cards: Card 1failed init
[03:25] <superm1> #
[03:25] <superm1> ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.
[03:26] <superm1> that's what worries me why your live wouldnt work
[03:26] <yellowking> wat
[03:26] <yellowking> Okay, huh, that used to work...wonder if my SATA controller is conflicting.
[03:26] <yellowking> Put a new SATA controller and disk in...disk is working
[03:26] <superm1> open up mythtv-setup and poke around in there
[03:27] <superm1> those sorts of conflicts aren't very common in hardware these days, but who knows
[03:27] <yellowking> Well, I don't see my Hauphauge in lspci...
[03:27] <yellowking> ****!
[03:27] <yellowking> No, there it is, Conexant
[03:28] <yellowking> [   16.370617] tveeprom 0-0050: Encountered bad packet header [94]. Corrupt or not a Hauppauge eeprom.
[03:28] <yellowking> ****!
[03:28] <superm1> give the system a cold boot
[03:28] <yellowking> okay
[03:28] <superm1> and if that doesnt help make sure it's still seated well
[03:28] <superm1> and/or reseat it
[03:29] <superm1> if that still doesn't help, start swapping around pci slots i thinks
[03:29] <yellowking> will do
[03:29] <yellowking> thx
[03:41] <yellowking> Things seem much better now, superm1.  Thanks!
[03:42] <superm1> great, what was it?
[03:43] <yellowking> Dunno.  Powered it off for a bit and it came up detecting the Haup and mounted the disk.  Couldn't watch TV, but restarted the backend and it started playing.
[04:16] <tgm4883> frink__, just checking if there was an update on the server situation.  Is it still being worked on?
[13:55] <r3z> Whats the deal with the site?
[14:08] <rhpot1991> r3z: hardware failure
[14:08] <rhpot1991> its being worked on
[14:09] <r3z> Need someone to host it temporarily?
[14:09]  * r3z can host it as long as I dont have to serve up the isos too.
[14:09] <rhpot1991> r3z: not really, there was talks of doing some distributed system with mirrors though
[14:09] <r3z> I will help out..
[15:12] <superm1> frink__, can you maybe supply a backup in the interim so we can get it back up somewhere until you have your hosting back up and running?  we've gotten a few people who are willing to help split up the load for now (like r3z above)?
[15:13]  * r3z can set up a site in the interim. I can have the site up and running as fast as I can get the backup and the dns records updated ;) 
[15:13] <r3z> We could also set up a round robin selection if there are others to help out..
[15:17] <rhpot1991> r3z: there have been a few volenteers already, I don't think we have a backup available at this point though
[15:17] <superm1> i think the worry about doing round robin was that mysql inconsistencies on different mirrors
[15:17] <r3z> We can put up a temp site to direct users here.
[15:17] <r3z> Let one site manage the db?
[15:19] <superm1> frink__ said he's got the data still, so if it's gonna be a while till the hosting is back up, I think if he can get us /srv (or /var/www) and the sql tables we can at least get a temporary site back up indeed
[15:19] <superm1> really dont want to rebuild the site from scratch and google cache again tho
[15:20] <rhpot1991> superm1: those issues can be a headache, my server was that time and its impossible to get updates cause everyone is running around chasing fires
[15:20] <rhpot1991> s/was/was out/
[15:20] <superm1> yeah i can see that being troublesome
[15:21] <superm1> well you know, it's gonna be hard to do an RC otherwise...
[15:21] <rhpot1991> thats the kinda thing that puts hosting companies under too
[15:21] <superm1> r3z maybe can you do a static page from google cache, with some basic text explaining the main hosting is down atm, but we're still gonna do RC and what not
[15:22] <r3z> I can but of course I dont have access to the DNS records ;)
[15:22] <superm1> tgm4883 can still mirror the RC isos and what not
[15:22] <rhpot1991> we were honestly worried that our place was going under and we were gonna have to go pick up the server
[15:22] <superm1> once something is together we can ping the guy here with dns access and redirect it to you until hosting is sorted out
[15:22] <superm1> rhpot1991, yikes that could be bad
[15:23] <superm1> i dont even know where in the world mythbuntu.org lived :)
[15:23] <rhpot1991> turns out they were just moving
[15:23] <rhpot1991> heh, I nominate tgm4883 to go find it
[15:23] <tgm4883> frink__, ping
[15:24] <r3z> I only have about 200gb of transfer left this month so I couldnt really help with hosting the isos but we could put the torrents up there.
[15:24] <r3z> And link to whoever had the isos hosted.
[15:24] <superm1> tgm4883 maybe send him an email, he might just be away from IRC doing $WORK  or something :)
[15:24] <tgm4883> ok
[15:24] <superm1> r3z, yeah we have plenty of mirrors dedicated solely for ISOs, we only host the site on the central server
[15:25] <r3z> No problem.
[15:26] <r3z> SOmeone grab me a scrape of the page and throw up some information about the outage and I will put it up to host it.
[15:26]  * r3z needs to get the records and so forth up ;) 
[15:26] <tgm4883> superm1, how you want me to mirror them?
[15:26] <superm1> tgm4883, oh you kept the mirroring script on mythbuntu.org i bet huh?
[15:27] <tgm4883> superm1, thats where it's mirrored from
[15:27] <superm1> oh
[15:27] <r3z> heh.
[15:27] <tgm4883> all the mirrors grab it from there
[15:27] <r3z> Get me the script and I will throw it up there too..
[15:27] <tgm4883> there is no script, IIRC, all the mirrors do rsync now
[15:27] <r3z> Ahh. hrm.
[15:27] <tgm4883> I can get the isos no problem
[15:27] <rhpot1991> google cahe doesn't seem to be doing its job
[15:28] <tgm4883> but the mirrors need to be able to rsync from you
[15:30] <tgm4883> so if you want to set that up, that is fine
[15:30] <superm1> rhpot1991, hm that's not good
[15:30] <rhpot1991> superm1: I think its trying to point at images that it can't see
[15:30] <rhpot1991> <img src="http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/ub-pill.png"
[15:30] <rhpot1991> yep
[15:30] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, it doesn't cache images
[15:30] <superm1> rhpot1991, well you know where else we have a cached site... the intrepid source package of mythbuntu-default-settings!
[15:31] <rhpot1991> superm1: for real?
[15:31] <superm1> yeah
[15:31]  * r3z has the vhost set up now.
[15:31] <superm1> well just the CSS, and basic static html, yeah
[15:31] <r3z> Just need the backup\temp site and point DNS.
[15:31] <superm1> r3z, ok cool thanks
[15:34] <rhpot1991> superm1: where does it live in here?
[15:34] <superm1> rhpot1991, usr/share/mythbuntu/home
[15:37] <rhpot1991> superm1: http://www.baablogic.net/mythbuntu/website/index.html
[15:37] <superm1> rhpot1991, great! can you add http://paste.ubuntu.com/151486/ to it?
[15:38] <superm1> then we can get r3z to snag that content and we'll get dns redirected
[15:39] <r3z> rhpot1991, tar that and send me a link to download it ;)
[15:42] <superm1> and then we can add other mirrors as soon as we sort out how to mirror everything
[15:43] <superm1> r3z, in the interim what's the IP for us to redirect to?  I'll ping that guy with yours
[15:44] <superm1> k cool
[15:46] <rhpot1991> superm1: http://www.baablogic.net/mythbuntu/website/index.html
[15:46] <rhpot1991> I killed all the links too
[15:46] <rhpot1991> and added one for the cdimages
[15:47] <superm1> cool looks good
[15:50] <rhpot1991> r3z: get my pm?
[15:50] <r3z> ya
[15:51] <r3z> Set my IP as mythbuntu.org in your hosts file and refresh and it is up.
[15:51] <r3z> Just waiting on DNS now.
[15:51] <r3z> Wanna stick the information for the IRC channel on the page?
[15:52] <r3z> Since forums are down if anyone has questions they can come here.
[15:52] <superm1> forums should still be up; they're hosted at ubuntuforums
[15:52] <tgm4883> forums aren't down?
[15:52] <r3z> ahh nevermind
[15:53] <r3z> We need to link to them then probably..
[15:53]  * tgm4883 still isn't sure what you guys want me to do about the ISO's
[15:54] <superm1> yeah a link to them in that flat html file would probably be good
[15:54] <superm1> here's the url: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301
[15:56] <r3z> Done.
[15:58] <r3z> superm1, rhpot1991 check pm ;)
[15:58] <r3z> err notice even.
[15:58] <superm1> awesome looks great.
[15:58] <r3z> ;)
[15:58] <superm1> thanks
[15:58] <r3z> np.
[15:58] <rhpot1991> look good
[16:00] <r3z> Let me know when DNS is updated ;)
[16:00] <r3z> If anyone has the torrent files I can stick them up there too..
[16:00] <r3z> If the tracker wasnt on the same server heh.
[16:00] <tgm4883> it's not
[16:01] <r3z> ok.
[16:01] <r3z> Get me the torrents and I will throw them up there as well.
[17:35] <r3z> Off to load up mythbuntu 8.10 on a friends machine ;)
[17:35] <r3z> bbl
[18:01] <superm1> r3z, okay the dns change should be made.  will just take some time to propagate and what not
[18:39] <tgm4883> superm1, already good here
[18:40] <superm1> ah it is in new york too
[18:40] <superm1> and in tx
[18:40] <tgm4883> superm1, a quick note, that iso link will need to get fixed
[18:40] <superm1> tgm4883, how so?
[18:40] <tgm4883> look where it points
[18:41] <superm1> yeah until we have something figured out for mirroring, it will do the trick won't it?
[18:41] <tgm4883> should probably point to somehting like http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.04/beta/
[18:41] <tgm4883> only  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/9.04/rc/
[18:41] <tgm4883> or whatever the naming schema is there
[18:41] <superm1> oh i see what you mean
[18:42] <rhpot1991> pm that guy, its static html he can just change it
[18:42] <superm1> yeah that's probably a good idea, but not until we actually get our rc spun
[18:42] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, well we need to figure out what it is first
[18:42] <tgm4883> yea
[18:42] <superm1> slangasek is going to respin the disk with the mesa fix after ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, unr, and studio are done
[18:44] <superm1> tgm4883, i take it no response from frink yet about an ETA?
[18:45] <tgm4883> nope
[18:50] <superm1> rhpot1991, can you keep a tarball of this "recovery" site on arctangent in case we ever need to do this in the future?
[18:50] <rhpot1991> superm1: ya not a problem
[18:51] <superm1> i think it's good to have around and be able to flip up if necessary
[18:51] <superm1> cool
[18:51] <rhpot1991> superm1: we should look at maybe having a mirror too
[18:51] <rhpot1991> even if we don't redirect to it, if we sync nightly and can just flip a switch to switch over that would be a good idea
[18:54] <superm1> yeah maybe that's the better solution than the round robin too since we dont have the problem with keeping SQL databases in sync
[18:54] <superm1> or with SQL request over  the internets
[18:54] <tgm4883> !topic
[18:54] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about topic
[18:54] <r3z> tgm4883, what you want me to update the link to?
[18:55] <superm1> r3z, for now can you put it at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/current/
[18:55] <superm1> and we'll update it once the RC is ready?
[18:55] <r3z> k
[18:55] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: why are you yelling at us :)
[18:56] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, I yell, thats what I dod ;)
[18:56] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: watch 24 yet?
[18:56] <r3z> Done.
[18:57] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, not yet
[18:57] <tgm4883> I watched southland and house
[18:57] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: let me know when you do, so we can discuss
[18:58] <rhpot1991> haven't seen this weeks house yet
[18:58] <rhpot1991> what did you think of southland?
[18:58] <tgm4883> southland is pretty good
[18:58] <rhpot1991> I think it has potential
[18:59] <r3z> Bleh just loaded up mythbuntu 8.10 on a friends box with an hvr-1600 and it isnt working :*(
[19:01] <r3z> Black screen when wanting to watch tv :(
[19:02] <superm1> r3z, check dmesg for information about firmware loading and errors and what not
[19:02] <r3z> Ya looking now
[19:02] <tgm4883> !logs
[19:02] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[19:02] <r3z> Just got ssh'd into the box ;)
[19:02] <rhpot1991> r3z: I think there are firmware issues there, my understanding is that there were multiple different versions and you need to make sure you have a match
[19:02] <rhpot1991> might want to check this too (but I doubt its the issue):
[19:02] <rhpot1991> !blank%
[19:02] <Zinn> If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[19:05] <r3z> He also has onboard hdmi out and I gotta look at that too..
[19:08] <rhpot1991> r3z: video should work pretty easily, sound may be another question.  I hear Jaunty's alsa has much better support there
[19:09] <r3z> k.
[19:09] <r3z> I gotta figure out why it isnt even sending right now. I doubt X is configured to handle it. We are using DVI right now.
[19:13] <r3z> Anyone know of a way to force a vnc session on the console?
[19:14] <r3z> I try vncserver :0 and it says its already running I am assuming because X is running.
[19:14]  * r3z doesnt use VNC hardly ever lol
[19:18] <r3z> May have set the card wrong. I cant run mythtv-setup from the stupid vnc session though :(
[19:28] <rhpot1991> r3z: forward X over ssh, ssh -X
[19:30] <r3z> btw I added a redirect from mythbuntu.org/downloads to the main index since it is a main link off of google when searching for mythbuntu
[19:43] <r3z> Gotta love how slow X over ssh is ;)
[19:48] <r3z> mythtv-setup is still bombing. Never comes up goes straight from killing the backend to do you want to run mythfilldb
[19:48] <r3z> :(
[19:50] <superm1> r3z, on 9.04? there is a bug with swrast right now
[19:50] <superm1> it's fixed in the mesa in UNAPPROVED
[19:50] <r3z> Nah. 8.10
[19:50] <rhpot1991> he is on intrepid I think
[19:50] <superm1> or on my ppa
[19:50] <superm1> oh
[19:51] <r3z> mythbackend segfaults when running over remote X or vnc :(
[19:52] <r3z> [ 4760.770582] mythbackend[1049]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000 sp bfe1cdc0 error 4 in mythbackend[8048000+118000]
[20:06] <superm1> r3z, that's odd.  do you have a stack trace?
[20:06] <superm1> er did apport trigger or anything?
[20:20] <r3z> nothing from apport
[20:21] <r3z> and no stack trace
[20:21] <r3z>  * Starting MythTV server: mythbackend                                                                                                                       Segmentation fault
[20:21] <r3z> running service mythtv-backend start with sudo.
[21:26] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey, I have a great mythbuntu setup, however I want to upgrade from my Audigy 2, it doesn't support Digital out. I was wondering if anyone had a good recommendation for digital out, if done some research and the Omega Striker looks like a good bet, but there are some negative reviews on it inubuntu as well
[21:55] <r3z> tgm4883, you around?
[21:56] <tgm4883> yep
[21:56] <r3z> pm?
[21:57] <tgm4883> ok
[22:35] <J_eremy> so whats going on?  servers are down again?  lol