| ricochet | uh hello? | 01:26 |
|---|---|---|
| cody-somerville | Hello | 01:27 |
| ricochet | whats up | 01:28 |
| cody-somerville | Not much. | 01:28 |
| cody-somerville | How are you? | 01:28 |
| ricochet | so what are you running xubuntu on? | 01:29 |
| ricochet | ohh pretty good thanks for asking | 01:29 |
| cody-somerville | I'm running it on an Acer Aspire 3000 | 01:29 |
| ricochet | nice, how does it run? | 01:30 |
| ricochet | are you running Jaunty or Hardy? | 01:31 |
| cody-somerville | Jaunty | 01:31 |
| cody-somerville | Runs great | 01:31 |
| ricochet | dude, i love jaunty on my dell mini 9 | 01:31 |
| ricochet | there were only a few tweaks and it runs like a dream | 01:31 |
| ricochet | i am a bit of a noob in linux, but i am slowly learning more and more | 01:32 |
| cody-somerville | :) | 01:35 |
| cody-somerville | I used to be the same way | 01:35 |
| DrCheese | Linux is cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. | 01:56 |
| genii | DrCheese: Why bother trolling here? | 01:57 |
| genii | Bah | 01:57 |
| cody-somerville | heh | 01:57 |
| * genii hands out a round of coffees | 01:58 | |
| cody-somerville | Thanks. | 01:58 |
| * charlie-tca nods | 01:58 | |
| genii | cody-somerville: Anytime | 01:59 |
| Orbital85 | Hola, alguien habla espanol? | 02:15 |
| charlie-tca | !es | 02:16 |
| Orbital85 | espanyol | 02:16 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | We use English here. But most items will be the same in Ubuntu and Xubuntu | 02:16 |
| Orbital85 | pero mi problema es con XUBUNTU | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | I don't really speak spanish | 02:17 |
| Orbital85 | yo si :D | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | XUBUNTU/UBUNTU same | 02:17 |
| Orbital85 | really | 02:19 |
| Orbital85 | ? | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | really | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | xfce - gnome is the difference | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | mostly same | 02:20 |
| Orbital85 | i do not have panels | 02:20 |
| Orbital85 | :D | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | !panels | 02:20 |
| ubottu | Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | easy then | 02:20 |
| Orbital85 | how to open a terminal whit alt + f2? | 02:22 |
| Orbital85 | my firefox don't work | 02:22 |
| charlie-tca | hold alt down and hit F2 | 02:22 |
| Orbital85 | and? | 02:23 |
| charlie-tca | it should open a one-line terminal | 02:23 |
| charlie-tca | then type xfce4-panel and hit enter | 02:23 |
| Orbital85 | ready | 02:23 |
| charlie-tca | that should have give the panels back | 02:25 |
| Orbital85 | Firefox don't work, i use Isecat | 02:25 |
| Orbital85 | nop | 02:25 |
| Orbital85 | Icecat is not instaled | 02:25 |
| charlie-tca | did the terminal open? | 02:25 |
| Orbital85 | yep | 02:26 |
| charlie-tca | for firefox, you need to change permissions in ~/home | 02:26 |
| Orbital85 | i opening the links in icecat | 02:26 |
| Orbital85 | ok | 02:26 |
| charlie-tca | sudo chown -R your-username:your-username /home/your-username/.mozilla | 02:27 |
| charlie-tca | will probably fix firefox | 02:27 |
| * genii hands charlie-tca a coffee | 02:28 | |
| charlie-tca | thank you very much | 02:28 |
| charlie-tca | I needed that | 02:28 |
| genii | charlie-tca: Anytime :) I see you took notes from earlier | 02:28 |
| charlie-tca | yes, I am still learning myself | 02:28 |
| Orbital85 | drwxr-xr-x 6 miguel miguel 4.0K 2009-04-12 21:35 .mozilla | 02:29 |
| Orbital85 | drwxr-xr-x 4 miguel miguel 4.0K 2009-04-11 20:49 firefox | 02:29 |
| charlie-tca | If you use the "-R" it fixes it all the way through the directories. | 02:29 |
| genii | Orbital85: If firefox still refuses to start after the permissions change, you can try starting it in safe mode from command line | 02:30 |
| Orbital85 | i use ls -ahl | 02:30 |
| genii | Orbital85: This prevents the extensions from loading so that you can see if any of them are what is making the problem | 02:30 |
| Orbital85 | ok i reboot | 02:30 |
| genii | Hm. Left before I could explain not the computer in safe mode but just firefox with: firefox -safe-mode | 02:31 |
| charlie-tca | gotta be quick | 02:33 |
| charlie-tca | but did he do the chown or just an ls? | 02:34 |
| Orbital85 | You think that the problem with firefox is that: | 02:42 |
| Orbital85 | miguel@xubuntu-desktop:~/.mozilla/firefox/vkuuxfit.default$ ls -l places.sqlite-journal prefs.js sessionstore.js | 02:42 |
| Orbital85 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 78488 2009-04-10 20:12 places.sqlite-journal | 02:42 |
| Orbital85 | -rw------- 1 root root 14737 2009-04-10 19:41 prefs.js | 02:42 |
| Orbital85 | -rw------- 1 root root 1652 2009-04-10 20:06 sessionstore.js | 02:42 |
| charlie-tca | yes, that is why you run the chown command. It fixes those permissions. Root should not own anything in .mozilla | 02:43 |
| Orbital85 | ok only trhee files | 02:44 |
| Orbital85 | firefox seems to work well | 02:52 |
| charlie-tca | Great! | 02:54 |
| Orbital85 | but the bar google don't work fine | 02:55 |
| Orbital85 | i reinstall | 02:56 |
| charlie-tca | That is an add-on. | 02:56 |
| charlie-tca | At least firefox works now | 02:56 |
| Orbital85 | yes | 02:57 |
| Orbital85 | ok ready, thanks | 03:12 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 03:12 |
| slimjimflim | hi my wifi-radar is broken in ibex | 03:13 |
| slimjimflim | can anybody help? | 03:13 |
| slimjimflim | i just upgraded | 03:13 |
| Orbital85 | how to recover my panels? | 03:27 |
| charlie-tca | !panels | 03:28 |
| ubottu | Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 03:28 |
| Orbital85 | hooo, thanks | 03:29 |
| charlie-tca | no problem. | 03:29 |
| owen1 | i had 'place' icon on the top panel and it's gone. how to bring it back. i can't find anything relevant on 'add new item' option. | 04:27 |
| owen1 | i found the issue, i had to install the places plugin. | 05:03 |
| jyf1987 | hello,everyone,i have an question,that i want to add a autostart cmd to my system,my os is ubuntu8.10,and i installed xfce4 by apt ,but after i have write the cmd to /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc ,i found the cmd do not autostart everytime | 05:37 |
| jyf1987 | so how to solve it ? | 05:38 |
| genii | !autostart | 05:47 |
| ubottu | To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot | 05:47 |
| jyf1987 | !boot | 05:48 |
| ubottu | Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto | 05:48 |
| genii | The down and dirty fast way is just make a file called .startx and put in it the name of the command and then a & after the name | 05:48 |
| genii | (or it may be xsession or so, forget atm) | 05:49 |
| jyf1987 | genii: but i found startxfce4 | 05:49 |
| genii | jyf1987: I'm primarily on KDE so gave the desktop-environment agnostic version | 05:51 |
| genii-around | Apologies, my Quassel core cut out | 05:53 |
| genii-around | If you did not get my last msg... Since i am primarily on KDE I gave the desktop-environment-agnostic version of how to automatically run apps | 05:54 |
| genii | OK, back | 05:56 |
| jyf1987 | genii: thx and i will got a try | 05:57 |
| pjz_ | I'm testing jaunty xubuntu and my media-control keys don't work... I can't find a bug for it in the db, but I find some simialr ones.. is this a known issue? | 06:01 |
| genii | pjz_: Maybe ask in #ubuntu+1 | 06:03 |
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| usermake_ | how can i get the alternate cd installer (expert mode) to detect and reuse my lvm on encrypted partition? | 07:26 |
| Iskr | hello | 09:04 |
| cody-somerville | Hello | 09:05 |
| Iskr | my xubuntu (last release) | 09:05 |
| Iskr | refuses to suspend to ram correctly after last updates | 09:05 |
| Iskr | it goes to suspend but then doesn't come back to life correctly | 09:06 |
| Iskr | i can't explain very well how it is | 09:07 |
| cody-somerville | How so? | 09:07 |
| Iskr | it's as if the computer is on again | 09:07 |
| Iskr | (i can hear the fan) | 09:07 |
| Iskr | but the screen doesn't turn on | 09:07 |
| genii | Probably an ATI video. They forget what crt/lcd is attached when hibernated and so on, then never do a rescan | 09:18 |
| Iskr | i use an nvidia video card | 09:18 |
| Iskr | and yes the driver was just updated | 09:19 |
| Iskr | i can try with a downgrade | 09:19 |
| genii | If possible do ctrl-alt-F1 and see if you can get a console and login. If you can login, restart gdm | 09:19 |
| Iskr | nono i tried | 09:19 |
| Iskr | i also tried ctrl-alt-backspace | 09:19 |
| Iskr | i tried every possible combination of keys | 09:19 |
| genii | Hm. Are the 3 keyboard lights all blinking on and off together? | 09:20 |
| genii | (this means kernel panic) | 09:20 |
| Iskr | no | 09:20 |
| TheSheep | do they work when you press capslock or numlock? | 09:20 |
| Iskr | i forgot to try =P | 09:20 |
| Iskr | i try first of all to bring it back to the previous drivers | 09:39 |
| Iskr | and then if the problem persists i'll try to light the capslock | 09:39 |
| Iskr | and will come back | 09:39 |
| Iskr | thanks | 09:40 |
| slimjimflim | anybody got a bcm4318 running on intrepid? | 09:58 |
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| lintel | hi, I installed Xubuntu 9.04 on an external USB-drive and though it runs fine I can not browse the internal drive of my laptop :( -- is Thunar that limited? Also Gigolo fails with the error "you are not supposed to show G_IO_ERROR_FAILED_HANDLED in the UI" -- any suggestions? | 10:20 |
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| === rubix is now known as magic_ninja | ||
| EdgEy | how can i edit the Applications menu in xubuntu ? i can't find a menu editor | 11:24 |
| charlie-tca | Is this in Jaunty? | 11:25 |
| SiDi | :p | 11:26 |
| EdgEy | i'm guessing this is popular then ;p yes | 11:26 |
| namefag | 11:26 | |
| namefag | 11:26 | |
| namefag | 11:26 | |
| namefag | 11:26 | |
| namefag | 11:26 | |
| namefag | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff | 11:26 |
| charlie-tca | http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu | 11:26 |
| SiDi | EdgEy, if you want to edit, for instance, abiword, copy the /usr/share/applications/abiword.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications and modify it with a text editor | 11:26 |
| SiDi | EdgEy, you can also use alacarte but it wont work for setting wether the menu entry should be shown or not (yet it'll work for changing the name / icon / command of the app) | 11:27 |
| EdgEy | thanks :) | 11:30 |
| remink | yo! | 11:33 |
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| archman | Hello | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | !hi | archman | 15:03 |
| ubottu | archman: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 15:03 |
| archman | On whom depends the release of a xfce 4.6 backport for intrepid after the Jaunty is out? Will we the ones who dont want to upgrade to Jaunty need to wait a month or so :D? :-/ | 15:04 |
| charlie-tca | It depends heavily on the developers having time to backport it. There will be wait, but I don't know how long it will be. | 15:05 |
| archman | So devs of xfce or ubuntu packagers? | 15:05 |
| charlie-tca | devs of Xubuntu | 15:06 |
| archman | ok | 15:06 |
| archman | btw.: I've already tried installing 4.6 from ppa, but all I got when logging to it was a black screen. Maybe some clues? | 15:07 |
| charlie-tca | Follow the instructions to add it to your sources: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories | 15:08 |
| charlie-tca | If you just installed 4.6, it probably won't work. You actually do an upgrade to it. | 15:09 |
| charlie-tca | Install it in a tty using ctrl+alt+f2, log in, type "sudo apt-get update", hit enter. When that finishes, type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", hit enter. Restart your computer, if it doesn't work, run the upgrade again. | 15:09 |
| charlie-tca | Sometimes it has to be done twice for some reason. | 15:09 |
| archman1 | Sorry, my net crapped out | 15:15 |
| archman1 | charlie-tca, you said something more? | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | Follow the instructions to add it to your sources: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories | 15:16 |
| archman1 | Done that | 15:16 |
| archman1 | ;) | 15:16 |
| archman1 | but why dist-upgrade? | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | So, it adds/changes the needed dependencies | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | Sometimes when you do it, you have to go to Ctrl+Alt+F2 and run the upgrade again to make it work. | 15:17 |
| archman1 | btw, I didn't install xfce-desktop, nor xubuntu by default... | 15:17 |
| archman1 | just xfce4 | 15:18 |
| archman1 | package | 15:18 |
| archman1 | with my default ubuntu | 15:18 |
| archman1 | (gnome, sure) | 15:18 |
| charlie-tca | Then it may not work, either. | 15:18 |
| archman1 | hmm...:( | 15:18 |
| archman1 | Maybe it's best to wait for the backport then...hope it'll work, I see there are some major improvements | 15:20 |
| archman1 | I hate one thing about 4.4.2 | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | Why not install xubuntu, completely? | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | at least xubuntu-desktop | 15:20 |
| archman1 | oh, hmm... i don't really know... | 15:21 |
| archman1 | I should reinstall everything from scratch anyway | 15:21 |
| archman1 | ... | 15:21 |
| archman1 | I upgraded from Gutsy | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | Even the backport of 4.6 may not work as a stand-alone | 15:21 |
| archman1 | :( | 15:21 |
| archman1 | I need you to tell me something if you know how to do it...I'll make a screenshot | 15:22 |
| archman1 | can't explain | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | You could install Jaunty next week, when it comes out. It includes 4.6 | 15:22 |
| archman1 | yes... | 15:23 |
| archman1 | charlie-tca: http://i40.tinypic.com/24nfwch.png | 15:24 |
| archman1 | How to resize the button, so it appears "normal-sized" | 15:25 |
| archman1 | ? | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | Don't know. It looks like you are using a single panel, with a non-default theme | 15:26 |
| archman1 | yeah... | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | Might depend on the theme itself. | 15:26 |
| archman1 | Yours was normal when you used 4.4? | 15:27 |
| charlie-tca | yes, but I also used the default theme in it with Xubuntu 8.10 | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | When you only add xfce, I don't know what the results are. | 15:28 |
| archman1 | ok, thanks for your help!! :) | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | Also, the theme author can tell it how big/small to make that box | 15:29 |
| archman1 | crap I don't even know how to change a theme here!, noob to xfce... | 15:29 |
| archman1 | oh! user interface | 15:30 |
| archman1 | in settings manager | 15:30 |
| archman1 | yeah, the default theme is used... | 15:30 |
| archman1 | nvm :) | 15:31 |
| archman1 | thx | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 15:35 |
| Ruadh | Hi | 16:01 |
| Slonkie | Hello Ruadh | 16:01 |
| Ruadh | How's things? Slonkie | 16:02 |
| Slonkie | fine, and u? | 16:02 |
| Ruadh | I'm goodtoo | 16:02 |
| Ruadh | When does RC for xubuntu come our? | 16:03 |
| Ruadh | our/out | 16:03 |
| charlie-tca | tomorrow | 16:04 |
| Ruadh | release candidate | 16:04 |
| charlie-tca | still tomorrow | 16:04 |
| Mood | if i have ibex, and jaunty becomes official, how do it upgrade everything? simply sudo apt-get upgrade/install? | 16:04 |
| charlie-tca | We are testing today | 16:04 |
| Mood | it/I? | 16:05 |
| Ruadh | Thanks, charlie-tca | 16:05 |
| Mood | !upgrade | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 16:05 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | yw, Ruadh | 16:06 |
| genady12lap | hey, how do I support samba shares in tunar? | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | !samba | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. | 16:15 |
| genady12lap | its not it | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | !smb | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | no again, huh? | 16:16 |
| genady12lap | fusesmb is not so good | 16:16 |
| Ruadh | bbl | 16:16 |
| genady12lap | but smbnetfs wont autostart | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | What about pyneighborhood? | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | Jaunty will have gigolo, which is easier | 16:17 |
| genady12lap | I have the jaunty beta | 16:17 |
| genady12lap | oh I see | 16:17 |
| genady12lap | but its not interated | 16:17 |
| charlie-tca | under systems -> Remote Filesystems ? | 16:18 |
| charlie-tca | Once it is connected, you should be able to see the shares in Thunar | 16:19 |
| genady12lap | when I start it manually its ok but from the startup its not working | 16:19 |
| genady12lap | maybe because there is no net, but I dont know | 16:20 |
| charlie-tca | What about just adding the windows directories to /etc/fstab so they will automount at boot | 16:20 |
| genady12lap | I don't want it that why, I don't know the shares | 16:21 |
| genady12lap | the problem it works but not with auto start | 16:22 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe someone else knows an answer, I don't use windows. | 16:23 |
| genii | I'm pretty sure Thunar doesn't normally do smb:// and so on | 16:43 |
| SiDi | it doesnt | 16:48 |
| SiDi | use gigolo in jaunty | 16:48 |
| SiDi | and for intrepid/hardy pyneighboorhood or nautilus | 16:48 |
| SiDi | or mount them manually :p | 16:48 |
| n2diy | how do you enable file/folder sharing in xubuntu? | 17:34 |
| cody-somerville | Applications > System > Shared Folders | 17:37 |
| n2diy | cody-somerville: thanks, any relationship with Somerville, NJ., USA? | 17:38 |
| cody-somerville | Not at all | 17:39 |
| n2diy | cody-somerville: ok, thanks. | 17:39 |
| cody-somerville | ;) | 17:39 |
| n2diy | cody-somerville: are you still hanging out here? | 18:03 |
| cody-somerville | yup | 18:03 |
| n2diy | cody-somerville: ok, I did the sys>admin>share, and told it to install the sharing software, and wound up in a loop. After the software installed, I was told it wasn't installed, so I re-installed, and the same thing happened. Do I need to log out and in again? Restart something? | 18:05 |
| cody-somerville | Restarting might do the trick | 18:05 |
| n2diy | cody-somerville: 10-4 | 18:06 |
| charlie-tca | !daily | 19:15 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 19:15 |
| * charlie-tca kicks the robot | 19:16 | |
| n2diy_ | can you setup xubuntu as a file server? | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 20:14 |
| n2diy_ | charlie-tca: ok, any howto handy. | 20:15 |
| charlie-tca | I do it with NFS for three other systems | 20:15 |
| charlie-tca | !nfs | 20:15 |
| ubottu | nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. | 20:15 |
| Slonkie | or you can use an FTP server | 20:16 |
| Slonkie | not sure about NFS, but with FTP you can access it from outside your lan (if you have the proper port open in your router) | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think it is secure to open to the outside | 20:21 |
| knome | sftp is way better | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | Seems like NFS has security issues | 20:22 |
| Sniper606 | I am using the xubuntu 9.04 beta and for some reason my /etc/fstab is blank. Is there an easy way to fix this? | 20:43 |
| charlie-tca | You can put entries in if you need to. | 20:44 |
| charlie-tca | If you don't use a separate /home, I believe that is the new default. I could be wrong, though | 20:45 |
| Sniper606 | so you are telling me a blank fstab is normal? | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | Appears to be on Jaunty. | 20:46 |
| Sniper606 | sudo touch forcefsck doesn't work and I assume its because my fstab is blank | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | Would be my guess. | 20:47 |
| Sniper606 | does anyone else here not have an fstab | 20:47 |
| Sniper606 | or have a blank one anyways | 20:48 |
| Slonkie | Where is fstab stored? (forgot it :/) | 20:48 |
| Sniper606 | cat /etc/fstab | 20:48 |
| Slonkie | Mine isen't blank | 20:48 |
| * charlie-tca raises hand for blank | 20:49 | |
| Sniper606 | hrm | 20:49 |
| charlie-tca | on fresh Jaunty default install | 20:49 |
| Slonkie | i updated from intreped -> jaunty | 20:49 |
| knome | not blank, but i don't have a fresh install | 20:49 |
| charlie-tca | But feel free to populate it | 20:49 |
| charlie-tca | I do, because I add drives and NFS directories | 20:49 |
| charlie-tca | Ubuntu-server populated it | 20:50 |
| Sniper606 | I think when the official release comes out and I am gonna wipe this and reinstall with ext4 instead of ext3 anyways. | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | That seems risky. ext4 still has issues with losing things | 20:51 |
| Sniper606 | i heard it had been patched | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | It has, but still is not as solid as ext3 | 20:52 |
| Sniper606 | Is the new beta not the best release of any distro ever tho | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | Of course, it does need to be tested long term | 20:53 |
| Sniper606 | they really outdid themselves this time i love it | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | I think it is the best, but I am prejudiced | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | I have done extensive testing of it | 20:53 |
| Sniper606 | same here and you know what I havent had any serious problems | 20:54 |
| Slonkie | may i ask why it's better? | 20:54 |
| Sniper606 | well its much faster | 20:54 |
| Sniper606 | seems more stable | 20:54 |
| Slonkie | faster where? on boot or on write/read ? :S | 20:54 |
| Slonkie | where/how | 20:55 |
| Sniper606 | both! | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | It works, it is prettier, it does run on my old hardware, it doesn't eat up resources | 20:55 |
| Slonkie | Cool | 20:55 |
| Sniper606 | yeah im using way less ram on 9.04 beta than on 8.10 | 20:55 |
| Sniper606 | i like the new login screen | 20:55 |
| Slonkie | me too | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, I noticed that too | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | new login screen and new background on the desktop! | 20:55 |
| Sniper606 | you know what we need tho is a descent menu editor | 20:55 |
| knome | that new artwork sucks! | 20:56 |
| Sniper606 | this release doesn't even have a menu editor or if it does i cant find it | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | that won't happen until Xfce4.8 | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | Only sucks if that is a good thing! | 20:56 |
| knome | nah | 20:56 |
| knome | they are ugly | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | No menu editor in Jaunty | 20:56 |
| Sniper606 | i dunno how to edit my menus by hand | 20:57 |
| knome | Sniper606, edit the .desktop files :P | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | let me give you a reference then | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | [for 4.6] copy '/etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu to '~/.config/xdg/menus' and customize it. | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | or [for 4.6] You can also create desktop entries in '~/.local/share/applications' to override the existing applications (change or hide) or add new ones. | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | or http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | should be helpful | 20:58 |
| Sniper606 | aight thx ill play with it and see if i can figure it out | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | We won't need no stinking editor by the time we get it, huh | 20:58 |
| knome | Sniper606, feel free to ask if you have any problems | 20:58 |
| Sniper606 | what happened the other day is an update put screensavers in my "other" category on my menu. i didnt know how to fix it. | 20:59 |
| Sniper606 | but another update a day later fixed it | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | yes, I got it reported and the devs got it fixed | 21:00 |
| Sniper606 | so can anyone recommend a good wysiwyg html editor | 21:00 |
| Sniper606 | i been using bluefish | 21:00 |
| Sniper606 | but honestly im lazy and i need something that does most of the work for me haha | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | that's my recommendation. I use bluefish and gedit | 21:07 |
| charlie-tca | nvu is pretty good, though | 21:07 |
| Sniper606 | What are the advantages and disadvantages of having home on a seperate partition? | 21:09 |
| n2diy_ | Sniper606: backing up and restoring is simpler, and so is upgrading. | 21:10 |
| charlie-tca | If it is a separate partition, it is easier to migrate when upgrading | 21:10 |
| Slonkie | every time i boot up xubuntu i get this error: ACPI: Invaled PBLK lenght [0] - Anyone know of an solution? | 21:14 |
| Sniper606 | where do I go to file an xubuntu bug report, im gonna report the blank /etc/fstab | 21:16 |
| Sniper606 | it might be a bug and it might not but either way I dont like it. | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | !bugs | 21:16 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 21:16 |
| Sniper606 | for some reason on my games menu theres always one game that doesnt have an icon too | 21:17 |
| Sniper606 | if i install a new game it will sometimes bump it to another game | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | Is that a game you install? | 21:18 |
| Sniper606 | yah | 21:18 |
| charlie-tca | (with the missing icon) | 21:18 |
| Sniper606 | right now supertux doesnt have an icon | 21:18 |
| charlie-tca | You should contact the game maintainer, because they did not include an icon with it. | 21:18 |
| Sniper606 | yeah it had an icon | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca | Every application .desktop file has a place that they can state the icon to use, I think. | 21:19 |
| Sniper606 | like say i install a new game right now | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca | It had one and it disappeared? | 21:20 |
| Sniper606 | it might bump the blank icon to another game | 21:20 |
| charlie-tca | You should report the first game without the icon. If that gets fixed, it will not keep happening. | 21:20 |
| Sniper606 | it might bump the blank icon to another game | 21:31 |
| Sniper606 | oops | 21:31 |
| Sniper606 | Well since I have no fstab and can't force a fsck with sudo touch /forcefsck, How else do I go about doing an fsck? | 21:32 |
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| charlie-tca | Sniper606: did you use the desktop cd or alternate cd to install? | 21:55 |
| Sniper606 | live cd | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks. I will try to reproduce the missing fstab | 21:56 |
| Sniper606 | i filed the bug report | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | What is the number? | 21:58 |
| Sniper606 | 361968 | 21:59 |
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| charlie-tca | Thank you | 22:05 |
| kromar | hi | 22:15 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, kromar | 22:15 |
| kromar | if i set a programm to be the default for opening a file it always resets when i reboot. how can i fix that? | 22:16 |
| sunshine | I'm trying to get all users to use the same wine config. I linked to /home/public/.wine in every home directory and -R 777ed. but get "wine: /home/user23/.wine is not owned by you" (for all users) | 22:20 |
| SiDi | they need to OWN the files | 22:30 |
| SiDi | make a group called wine | 22:30 |
| SiDi | and chown your files with this group | 22:30 |
| SiDi | and add your users to wine group | 22:30 |
| SiDi | it should work | 22:30 |
| kromar | if i set a programm to be the default for opening a file it always resets when i reboot. how can i fix that? | 22:36 |
| SiDi | kromar, what version are you using ? | 22:36 |
| kromar | release 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11 | 22:38 |
| SiDi | And it happens for all files / apps ? | 22:38 |
| SiDi | The apps .desktop files are in /usr/share/applications, right ? | 22:38 |
| kromar | yes | 22:39 |
| SiDi | Ok then I don't know which configuration file manages this, but the most likely case is that you can't write on this file, though | 22:39 |
| sunshine | SiDi: did that, I still get the error | 22:39 |
| kromar | hmm | 22:40 |
| SiDi | sunshine, join #winehq and ask there, i know some people managed to do it. i'll be there anyways, i'll check this out with you in a min | 22:40 |
| SiDi | kromar, check that you own .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list | 22:41 |
| kromar | how do i check if i own it? o_O | 22:42 |
| sunshine | isn't there a way to set no owner or anybody owner? | 22:43 |
| SiDi | kromar, "ls -l .local/share/applications" | 22:43 |
| SiDi | tell me if its written kromar or root in its left | 22:43 |
| SiDi | sunshine, you can set a group to own the files :) | 22:43 |
| SiDi | sunshine, ls -l some of your files in the prefix, are you _sure_ its owning group is the "wine" group you created ? | 22:44 |
| kromar | SiDi: on the left is my user name | 22:44 |
| sunshine | oh, so how do I remove the owner owner and set only a group owner? | 22:44 |
| SiDi | sunshine, i suggest you ask in #winehq, there will be people there that should know better than me | 22:47 |
| SiDi | kromar, stay around please | 22:48 |
| kromar | SiDi: ok | 22:48 |
| sunshine | ok | 22:49 |
| SiDi | I can't find the file responsible for this, kromar | 22:54 |
| SiDi | you can try to chown your whole .config and .local folders to yourself, it might help, since it seems you cant write to the config file that hosts this | 22:54 |
| kromar | hm ok, could it be that i have to save the session manually before logging out? | 22:54 |
| SiDi | if it does nothing, please file a bug report | 22:54 |
| SiDi | normally its automatically saved | 22:54 |
| SiDi | unless your rights on the file are messed up (which normally happens only if you do stuff as root :p) | 22:55 |
| SiDi | (did you run sudo thunar, at least once ?) | 22:55 |
| kromar | i dont think i ever did that. what does it do? | 22:55 |
| SiDi | it'll run thunar as root, but with your own config files | 22:56 |
| SiDi | and it can mess your rights on those config files | 22:56 |
| SiDi | its the most likely case to cause your problem, actually | 22:56 |
| kromar | hm | 22:56 |
| SiDi | Please file a bug report in launchpad.net, if you can't find the solution | 22:58 |
| SiDi | either they'll tell you how to solve and turn it into a question, or if there's an actual bug they'll look at it later | 22:58 |
| kromar | well i dont really know how i could find the problem.. | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | You can ask in #ubuntu, also. | 22:59 |
| kromar | ok will try there | 22:59 |
| SiDi | charlie-tca, its a thunar problem | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | Depends on what app, doesn't it? for example, jpg should open in viewer, etc | 23:00 |
| SiDi | charlie-tca, what i mean is, when he changes the file association, they're not saved | 23:00 |
| SiDi | on next reboot they're gone | 23:01 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, I tracked that down once. I can't remember the file it is in | 23:01 |
| SiDi | it really sounds like he cant write to the file in which customised file associations are written (or it doesnt exist and he cant write in the folder containing it) | 23:01 |
| kromar | i do a relog and see on what files this happens exactly | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe ask in #xfce, then. JPohlmann2 around? | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | JPohlmann2: knows all about xfce | 23:02 |
| SiDi | i'm in #xfce, asking | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | and thunar | 23:02 |
| SiDi | JPohlmann2, you be our guru. we send you a cyber coffee if you help ! | 23:03 |
| charlie-tca | only 10 installs to go | 23:03 |
| SiDi | its a pity i forgot my cd :( | 23:03 |
| charlie-tca | I took the 386 server, since I only had a few to do | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | And I do all the 386 items on hardware | 23:05 |
| SiDi | kromar, the file is .local/share/applications/defaults.desktop | 23:05 |
| SiDi | please ls -l .local/share/applications and tell me if you own this file (and if it exists) | 23:05 |
| SiDi | btw, x86 server gonna be dropped for karmic, apparently | 23:08 |
| kromar | i only have a defaults.list | 23:09 |
| SiDi | and do you own it ? | 23:09 |
| SiDi | !paste | 23:09 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 23:09 |
| SiDi | put its content here please, and put there the result of "ls -l ~/.local/share" and "ls -l ~/.local/share/applications/" | 23:10 |
| Sniper606 | Is it safe to install the 8.10 version of opera on the 9.04 beta? | 23:12 |
| iNNERDEATH | http://www.sexy-lena.com/?uid=451792 | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | Sniper606: why would you | 23:13 |
| Sniper606 | because thats all thats available on the opera download site | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | !opera | 23:14 |
| ubottu | opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser | 23:14 |
| charlie-tca | Don't really know. You could try it and see if it works. | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | If it is a .deb package, it should work. No guarantee, though | 23:16 |
| SiDi | kromar, is it working ? | 23:18 |
| kromar | seems to work | 23:19 |
| kromar | im gona reboot again, see if it really works^ | 23:19 |
| kromar | SiDi: looks like it works:D thanks a lot | 23:23 |
| SiDi | kromar, you're welcome :) | 23:23 |
| SiDi | there probably was something messed in up defaults.list | 23:23 |
| SiDi | if it happens again, please post a bug report in launchpad.net | 23:23 |
| SiDi | and attach your file | 23:23 |
| kromar | an other question, is it possible that the file icon is changed to the icon of the default programm? | 23:23 |
| SiDi | kromar, for some files probably | 23:24 |
| SiDi | the mimetype icon files are in /usr/share/icons/<youricontheme>/scalable/mimetypes/ | 23:24 |
| SiDi | and possibly also in 48x48/mimetypes/ 32x32/mimetypes/ etc | 23:25 |
| SiDi | you'ld need to remove the icons there and make links with the same name, that point to your app's icon | 23:25 |
| SiDi | that's a bit complicated and bothersome, but you *can* do it :P | 23:25 |
| kromar | so i have to change them manually? | 23:26 |
| SiDi | yeh... | 23:26 |
| SiDi | you can also make your own mimetype icons, package them into an icon theme, and make that icon theme depend on Human, for instance | 23:26 |
| SiDi | and it would use your icons for mimetypes, and Human for the rest | 23:26 |
| SiDi | thats painful too, though | 23:27 |
| SiDi | you could address a feature request to XFCE but i don't know if they'll do it | 23:27 |
| knome | SiDi, kromar: doesn't sound like something Xfce developers would be willing to implement. | 23:29 |
| SiDi | knome, i dont think either | 23:29 |
| SiDi | thats an heavy thing for what it is, and xfce doesnt like heaviness :P | 23:29 |
| knome | kromar, your best bet would be to write a script to replace all the mimetype icons | 23:30 |
| kromar | well as long as the file opens with the default programm there is no real need for it anyway^ | 23:30 |
| kromar | i have an other problem with my audio, sounds like the processor or hd signal is mixed in:O | 23:31 |
| SiDi | !info dontzap jaunty | 23:31 |
| ubottu | dontzap (source: dontzap): Command line tool to set the DontZap option in xorg.conf. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.2 (jaunty), package size 6 kB, installed size 124 kB | 23:31 |
| SiDi | what do you mean, kromar ? | 23:32 |
| kromar | not sure how to explain it, it sounds like some electrical signal is mixed into the sound... like a crackle or so | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | You did not install pulse audio? | 23:34 |
| charlie-tca | That does do that | 23:34 |
| * charlie-tca going to eat again. back in a little bit | 23:35 | |
| kromar | whats pulse radioi? | 23:35 |
| kromar | i only installed gmusicbrowser to play my files | 23:36 |
| SiDi | kromar, "ps aux | grep pulse" | 23:49 |
| SiDi | what's the output ? | 23:49 |
| SiDi | normally only one line, ending by "grep pulse" | 23:49 |
| SiDi | Do you also have Ubuntu(GNOME) installed ? if so then you might have pulseaudio installed | 23:50 |
| SiDi | Pulseaudio is a sound server, used under ubuntu but not under Xubuntu | 23:50 |
| Sniper606 | something i dont get is why is ubuntu and xubuntu considered 2 different distros | 23:57 |
| Sniper606 | its the same os with a different desktop environment | 23:58 |
| SiDi | no | 23:58 |
| SiDi | not exactly | 23:58 |
| Sniper606 | explain | 23:58 |
| SiDi | we might want to ship different apps/packages, not only a different DE | 23:58 |
| Sniper606 | i see | 23:58 |
| SiDi | having our own -desktop packages gives more possibility | 23:59 |
| SiDi | to ship what's most needed | 23:59 |
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