[01:26] uh hello? [01:27] Hello [01:28] whats up [01:28] Not much. [01:28] How are you? [01:29] so what are you running xubuntu on? [01:29] ohh pretty good thanks for asking [01:29] I'm running it on an Acer Aspire 3000 [01:30] nice, how does it run? [01:31] are you running Jaunty or Hardy? [01:31] Jaunty [01:31] Runs great [01:31] dude, i love jaunty on my dell mini 9 [01:31] there were only a few tweaks and it runs like a dream [01:32] i am a bit of a noob in linux, but i am slowly learning more and more [01:35] :) [01:35] I used to be the same way [01:56] Linux is cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. [01:57] DrCheese: Why bother trolling here? [01:57] Bah [01:57] heh [01:58] * genii hands out a round of coffees [01:58] Thanks. [01:58] * charlie-tca nods [01:59] cody-somerville: Anytime [02:15] Hola, alguien habla espanol? [02:16] !es [02:16] espanyol [02:16] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [02:16] We use English here. But most items will be the same in Ubuntu and Xubuntu [02:16] pero mi problema es con XUBUNTU [02:17] I don't really speak spanish [02:17] yo si :D [02:17] XUBUNTU/UBUNTU same [02:19] really [02:19] ? [02:19] really [02:20] xfce - gnome is the difference [02:20] mostly same [02:20] i do not have panels [02:20] :D [02:20] !panels [02:20] Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [02:20] easy then [02:22] how to open a terminal whit alt + f2? [02:22] my firefox don't work [02:22] hold alt down and hit F2 [02:23] and? [02:23] it should open a one-line terminal [02:23] then type xfce4-panel and hit enter [02:23] ready [02:25] that should have give the panels back [02:25] Firefox don't work, i use Isecat [02:25] nop [02:25] Icecat is not instaled [02:25] did the terminal open? [02:26] yep [02:26] for firefox, you need to change permissions in ~/home [02:26] i opening the links in icecat [02:26] ok [02:27] sudo chown -R your-username:your-username /home/your-username/.mozilla [02:27] will probably fix firefox [02:28] * genii hands charlie-tca a coffee [02:28] thank you very much [02:28] I needed that [02:28] charlie-tca: Anytime :) I see you took notes from earlier [02:28] yes, I am still learning myself [02:29] drwxr-xr-x 6 miguel miguel 4.0K 2009-04-12 21:35 .mozilla [02:29] drwxr-xr-x 4 miguel miguel 4.0K 2009-04-11 20:49 firefox [02:29] If you use the "-R" it fixes it all the way through the directories. [02:30] Orbital85: If firefox still refuses to start after the permissions change, you can try starting it in safe mode from command line [02:30] i use ls -ahl [02:30] Orbital85: This prevents the extensions from loading so that you can see if any of them are what is making the problem [02:30] ok i reboot [02:31] Hm. Left before I could explain not the computer in safe mode but just firefox with: firefox -safe-mode [02:33] gotta be quick [02:34] but did he do the chown or just an ls? [02:42] You think that the problem with firefox is that: [02:42] miguel@xubuntu-desktop:~/.mozilla/firefox/vkuuxfit.default$ ls -l places.sqlite-journal prefs.js sessionstore.js [02:42] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 78488 2009-04-10 20:12 places.sqlite-journal [02:42] -rw------- 1 root root 14737 2009-04-10 19:41 prefs.js [02:42] -rw------- 1 root root 1652 2009-04-10 20:06 sessionstore.js [02:43] yes, that is why you run the chown command. It fixes those permissions. Root should not own anything in .mozilla [02:44] ok only trhee files [02:52] firefox seems to work well [02:54] Great! [02:55] but the bar google don't work fine [02:56] i reinstall [02:56] That is an add-on. [02:56] At least firefox works now [02:57] yes [03:12] ok ready, thanks [03:12] You are welcome [03:13] hi my wifi-radar is broken in ibex [03:13] can anybody help? [03:13] i just upgraded [03:27] how to recover my panels? [03:28] !panels [03:28] Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [03:29] hooo, thanks [03:29] no problem. [04:27] i had 'place' icon on the top panel and it's gone. how to bring it back. i can't find anything relevant on 'add new item' option. [05:03] i found the issue, i had to install the places plugin. [05:37] hello,everyone,i have an question,that i want to add a autostart cmd to my system,my os is ubuntu8.10,and i installed xfce4 by apt ,but after i have write the cmd to /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc ,i found the cmd do not autostart everytime [05:38] so how to solve it ? [05:47] !autostart [05:47] To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot [05:48] !boot [05:48] Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [05:48] The down and dirty fast way is just make a file called .startx and put in it the name of the command and then a & after the name [05:49] (or it may be xsession or so, forget atm) [05:49] genii: but i found startxfce4 [05:51] jyf1987: I'm primarily on KDE so gave the desktop-environment agnostic version [05:53] Apologies, my Quassel core cut out [05:54] If you did not get my last msg... Since i am primarily on KDE I gave the desktop-environment-agnostic version of how to automatically run apps [05:56] OK, back [05:57] genii: thx and i will got a try [06:01] I'm testing jaunty xubuntu and my media-control keys don't work... I can't find a bug for it in the db, but I find some simialr ones.. is this a known issue? [06:03] pjz_: Maybe ask in #ubuntu+1 === rubix is now known as Guest22029 === Guest22029 is now known as magic_ninja === rocko is now known as gnufswannabe === gnufswannabe is now known as rocko === rubix is now known as Guest1381 === Guest1381 is now known as magic_ninja === rubix is now known as magic_ninja [07:26] how can i get the alternate cd installer (expert mode) to detect and reuse my lvm on encrypted partition? [09:04] hello [09:05] Hello [09:05] my xubuntu (last release) [09:05] refuses to suspend to ram correctly after last updates [09:06] it goes to suspend but then doesn't come back to life correctly [09:07] i can't explain very well how it is [09:07] How so? [09:07] it's as if the computer is on again [09:07] (i can hear the fan) [09:07] but the screen doesn't turn on [09:18] Probably an ATI video. They forget what crt/lcd is attached when hibernated and so on, then never do a rescan [09:18] i use an nvidia video card [09:19] and yes the driver was just updated [09:19] i can try with a downgrade [09:19] If possible do ctrl-alt-F1 and see if you can get a console and login. If you can login, restart gdm [09:19] nono i tried [09:19] i also tried ctrl-alt-backspace [09:19] i tried every possible combination of keys [09:20] Hm. Are the 3 keyboard lights all blinking on and off together? [09:20] (this means kernel panic) [09:20] no [09:20] do they work when you press capslock or numlock? [09:20] i forgot to try =P [09:39] i try first of all to bring it back to the previous drivers [09:39] and then if the problem persists i'll try to light the capslock [09:39] and will come back [09:40] thanks [09:58] anybody got a bcm4318 running on intrepid? === rubix is now known as Guest48510 === Guest48510 is now known as magic_ninja [10:20] hi, I installed Xubuntu 9.04 on an external USB-drive and though it runs fine I can not browse the internal drive of my laptop :( -- is Thunar that limited? Also Gigolo fails with the error "you are not supposed to show G_IO_ERROR_FAILED_HANDLED in the UI" -- any suggestions? === rubix is now known as magic_ninja === rubix is now known as magic_ninja [11:24] how can i edit the Applications menu in xubuntu ? i can't find a menu editor [11:25] Is this in Jaunty? [11:26] :p [11:26] i'm guessing this is popular then ;p yes [11:26] [11:26] [11:26] [11:26] [11:26] [11:26] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff [11:26] http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu [11:26] EdgEy, if you want to edit, for instance, abiword, copy the /usr/share/applications/abiword.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications and modify it with a text editor [11:27] EdgEy, you can also use alacarte but it wont work for setting wether the menu entry should be shown or not (yet it'll work for changing the name / icon / command of the app) [11:30] thanks :) [11:33] yo! === rubix is now known as magic_ninja [15:03] Hello [15:03] !hi | archman [15:03] archman: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [15:04] On whom depends the release of a xfce 4.6 backport for intrepid after the Jaunty is out? Will we the ones who dont want to upgrade to Jaunty need to wait a month or so :D? :-/ [15:05] It depends heavily on the developers having time to backport it. There will be wait, but I don't know how long it will be. [15:05] So devs of xfce or ubuntu packagers? [15:06] devs of Xubuntu [15:06] ok [15:07] btw.: I've already tried installing 4.6 from ppa, but all I got when logging to it was a black screen. Maybe some clues? [15:08] Follow the instructions to add it to your sources: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories [15:09] If you just installed 4.6, it probably won't work. You actually do an upgrade to it. [15:09] Install it in a tty using ctrl+alt+f2, log in, type "sudo apt-get update", hit enter. When that finishes, type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", hit enter. Restart your computer, if it doesn't work, run the upgrade again. [15:09] Sometimes it has to be done twice for some reason. [15:15] Sorry, my net crapped out [15:16] charlie-tca, you said something more? [15:16] Follow the instructions to add it to your sources: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories [15:16] Done that [15:16] ;) [15:16] but why dist-upgrade? [15:17] So, it adds/changes the needed dependencies [15:17] Sometimes when you do it, you have to go to Ctrl+Alt+F2 and run the upgrade again to make it work. [15:17] btw, I didn't install xfce-desktop, nor xubuntu by default... [15:18] just xfce4 [15:18] package [15:18] with my default ubuntu [15:18] (gnome, sure) [15:18] Then it may not work, either. [15:18] hmm...:( [15:20] Maybe it's best to wait for the backport then...hope it'll work, I see there are some major improvements [15:20] I hate one thing about 4.4.2 [15:20] Why not install xubuntu, completely? [15:20] at least xubuntu-desktop [15:21] oh, hmm... i don't really know... [15:21] I should reinstall everything from scratch anyway [15:21] ... [15:21] I upgraded from Gutsy [15:21] Even the backport of 4.6 may not work as a stand-alone [15:21] :( [15:22] I need you to tell me something if you know how to do it...I'll make a screenshot [15:22] can't explain [15:22] You could install Jaunty next week, when it comes out. It includes 4.6 [15:23] yes... [15:24] charlie-tca: http://i40.tinypic.com/24nfwch.png [15:25] How to resize the button, so it appears "normal-sized" [15:25] ? [15:26] Don't know. It looks like you are using a single panel, with a non-default theme [15:26] yeah... [15:26] Might depend on the theme itself. [15:27] Yours was normal when you used 4.4? [15:28] yes, but I also used the default theme in it with Xubuntu 8.10 [15:28] When you only add xfce, I don't know what the results are. [15:28] ok, thanks for your help!! :) [15:29] Also, the theme author can tell it how big/small to make that box [15:29] crap I don't even know how to change a theme here!, noob to xfce... [15:30] oh! user interface [15:30] in settings manager [15:30] yeah, the default theme is used... [15:31] nvm :) [15:31] thx [15:35] You are welcome [16:01] Hi [16:01] Hello Ruadh [16:02] How's things? Slonkie [16:02] fine, and u? [16:02] I'm goodtoo [16:03] When does RC for xubuntu come our? [16:03] our/out [16:04] tomorrow [16:04] release candidate [16:04] still tomorrow [16:04] if i have ibex, and jaunty becomes official, how do it upgrade everything? simply sudo apt-get upgrade/install? [16:04] We are testing today [16:05] it/I? [16:05] Thanks, charlie-tca [16:05] !upgrade [16:05] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [16:05] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [16:06] yw, Ruadh [16:15] hey, how do I support samba shares in tunar? [16:15] !samba [16:15] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [16:16] its not it [16:16] !smb [16:16] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [16:16] no again, huh? [16:16] fusesmb is not so good [16:16] bbl [16:16] but smbnetfs wont autostart [16:16] What about pyneighborhood? [16:17] Jaunty will have gigolo, which is easier [16:17] I have the jaunty beta [16:17] oh I see [16:17] but its not interated [16:18] under systems -> Remote Filesystems ? [16:19] Once it is connected, you should be able to see the shares in Thunar [16:19] when I start it manually its ok but from the startup its not working [16:20] maybe because there is no net, but I dont know [16:20] What about just adding the windows directories to /etc/fstab so they will automount at boot [16:21] I don't want it that why, I don't know the shares [16:22] the problem it works but not with auto start [16:23] Maybe someone else knows an answer, I don't use windows. [16:43] I'm pretty sure Thunar doesn't normally do smb:// and so on [16:48] it doesnt [16:48] use gigolo in jaunty [16:48] and for intrepid/hardy pyneighboorhood or nautilus [16:48] or mount them manually :p [17:34] how do you enable file/folder sharing in xubuntu? [17:37] Applications > System > Shared Folders [17:38] cody-somerville: thanks, any relationship with Somerville, NJ., USA? [17:39] Not at all [17:39] cody-somerville: ok, thanks. [17:39] ;) [18:03] cody-somerville: are you still hanging out here? [18:03] yup [18:05] cody-somerville: ok, I did the sys>admin>share, and told it to install the sharing software, and wound up in a loop. After the software installed, I was told it wasn't installed, so I re-installed, and the same thing happened. Do I need to log out and in again? Restart something? [18:05] Restarting might do the trick [18:06] cody-somerville: 10-4 [19:15] !daily [19:15] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [19:16] * charlie-tca kicks the robot [20:14] can you setup xubuntu as a file server? [20:14] yes [20:15] charlie-tca: ok, any howto handy. [20:15] I do it with NFS for three other systems [20:15] !nfs [20:15] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [20:16] or you can use an FTP server [20:16] not sure about NFS, but with FTP you can access it from outside your lan (if you have the proper port open in your router) [20:21] I don't think it is secure to open to the outside [20:22] sftp is way better [20:22] Seems like NFS has security issues [20:43] I am using the xubuntu 9.04 beta and for some reason my /etc/fstab is blank. Is there an easy way to fix this? [20:44] You can put entries in if you need to. [20:45] If you don't use a separate /home, I believe that is the new default. I could be wrong, though [20:46] so you are telling me a blank fstab is normal? [20:46] Appears to be on Jaunty. [20:46] sudo touch forcefsck doesn't work and I assume its because my fstab is blank [20:47] Would be my guess. [20:47] does anyone else here not have an fstab [20:48] or have a blank one anyways [20:48] Where is fstab stored? (forgot it :/) [20:48] cat /etc/fstab [20:48] Mine isen't blank [20:49] * charlie-tca raises hand for blank [20:49] hrm [20:49] on fresh Jaunty default install [20:49] i updated from intreped -> jaunty [20:49] not blank, but i don't have a fresh install [20:49] But feel free to populate it [20:49] I do, because I add drives and NFS directories [20:50] Ubuntu-server populated it [20:50] I think when the official release comes out and I am gonna wipe this and reinstall with ext4 instead of ext3 anyways. [20:51] That seems risky. ext4 still has issues with losing things [20:52] i heard it had been patched [20:52] It has, but still is not as solid as ext3 [20:53] Is the new beta not the best release of any distro ever tho [20:53] Of course, it does need to be tested long term [20:53] they really outdid themselves this time i love it [20:53] I think it is the best, but I am prejudiced [20:53] I have done extensive testing of it [20:54] same here and you know what I havent had any serious problems [20:54] may i ask why it's better? [20:54] well its much faster [20:54] seems more stable [20:54] faster where? on boot or on write/read ? :S [20:55] where/how [20:55] both! [20:55] It works, it is prettier, it does run on my old hardware, it doesn't eat up resources [20:55] Cool [20:55] yeah im using way less ram on 9.04 beta than on 8.10 [20:55] i like the new login screen [20:55] me too [20:55] yeah, I noticed that too [20:55] new login screen and new background on the desktop! [20:55] you know what we need tho is a descent menu editor [20:56] that new artwork sucks! [20:56] this release doesn't even have a menu editor or if it does i cant find it [20:56] that won't happen until Xfce4.8 [20:56] Only sucks if that is a good thing! [20:56] nah [20:56] they are ugly [20:56] No menu editor in Jaunty [20:57] i dunno how to edit my menus by hand [20:57] Sniper606, edit the .desktop files :P [20:57] let me give you a reference then [20:57] [for 4.6] copy '/etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu to '~/.config/xdg/menus' and customize it. [20:57] or [for 4.6] You can also create desktop entries in '~/.local/share/applications' to override the existing applications (change or hide) or add new ones. [20:57] or http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu [20:58] should be helpful [20:58] aight thx ill play with it and see if i can figure it out [20:58] We won't need no stinking editor by the time we get it, huh [20:58] Sniper606, feel free to ask if you have any problems [20:59] what happened the other day is an update put screensavers in my "other" category on my menu. i didnt know how to fix it. [20:59] but another update a day later fixed it [21:00] yes, I got it reported and the devs got it fixed [21:00] so can anyone recommend a good wysiwyg html editor [21:00] i been using bluefish [21:01] but honestly im lazy and i need something that does most of the work for me haha [21:07] that's my recommendation. I use bluefish and gedit [21:07] nvu is pretty good, though [21:09] What are the advantages and disadvantages of having home on a seperate partition? [21:10] Sniper606: backing up and restoring is simpler, and so is upgrading. [21:10] If it is a separate partition, it is easier to migrate when upgrading [21:14] every time i boot up xubuntu i get this error: ACPI: Invaled PBLK lenght [0] - Anyone know of an solution? [21:16] where do I go to file an xubuntu bug report, im gonna report the blank /etc/fstab [21:16] it might be a bug and it might not but either way I dont like it. [21:16] !bugs [21:16] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [21:17] for some reason on my games menu theres always one game that doesnt have an icon too [21:17] if i install a new game it will sometimes bump it to another game [21:18] Is that a game you install? [21:18] yah [21:18] (with the missing icon) [21:18] right now supertux doesnt have an icon [21:18] You should contact the game maintainer, because they did not include an icon with it. [21:19] yeah it had an icon [21:19] Every application .desktop file has a place that they can state the icon to use, I think. [21:19] like say i install a new game right now [21:20] It had one and it disappeared? [21:20] it might bump the blank icon to another game [21:20] You should report the first game without the icon. If that gets fixed, it will not keep happening. [21:31] it might bump the blank icon to another game [21:31] oops [21:32] Well since I have no fstab and can't force a fsck with sudo touch /forcefsck, How else do I go about doing an fsck? === mcas is now known as mcas_ === mcas_ is now known as mcas__ === mcas__ is now known as mcas [21:55] Sniper606: did you use the desktop cd or alternate cd to install? [21:56] live cd [21:56] Thanks. I will try to reproduce the missing fstab [21:58] i filed the bug report [21:58] What is the number? [21:59] 361968 === jussi01 is now known as android [22:05] Thank you [22:15] hi [22:15] Hello, kromar [22:16] if i set a programm to be the default for opening a file it always resets when i reboot. how can i fix that? [22:20] I'm trying to get all users to use the same wine config. I linked to /home/public/.wine in every home directory and -R 777ed. but get "wine: /home/user23/.wine is not owned by you" (for all users) [22:30] they need to OWN the files [22:30] make a group called wine [22:30] and chown your files with this group [22:30] and add your users to wine group [22:30] it should work [22:36] if i set a programm to be the default for opening a file it always resets when i reboot. how can i fix that? [22:36]