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kyneshi, I would like to ask a question about thin clients09:31
kyneswe would like to set up a thin client environment, where we would be able to send programming assignments to the thin clients from our server09:33
kynescompile the programs in the thin client and then evaluate the programs in the server09:33
kynesis there a ready solution to do this?09:34
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Ahmuckinteresting.  i have 5 ltsp clients and 1 windows xp computer in the lab20:44
Ahmuckgiven the choice, everybody will try to use the windows xp computer20:44
* Ahmuck ponders on how to change this20:44
ograremove the mouse20:44
alkisgor put a crt screen on it instead of a tft one :P20:49
ograand indeed turn it to 50Hz20:55
Ahmuckheh, it's got a crt on it :)21:07
LnsLOL22:14
LnsAhmuck: the question is, *why* do they want the windows computer?22:14
LnsThe comments here make me sad, as you're focusing on trying to force people into using something they don't want to use. Sounds familiar....22:17
alkisgLns, they were supposed to be jokes, not actual advice...22:25
Lns:)22:29
LnsI'd still like to know why the students want to use the XP box22:29
alkisg(1) because they're used to the environment, and (2) because it has a better wallpaper :P22:30
alkisg(at least that's what my students would say :))22:30
alkisggn everyone.22:31
Lnshaha22:46
Lnswell yeah, i'd expect "they're used to it"22:46
Lnsyou can transfer the wallpaper, and re: used to it, I'd think that if you educate them (in their context with what they're interested in), as we all know, Linux has equiv/better answers to what they want anyway (IM, music, bittorrent, etc)22:47
LnsThat'll give them the want to use linux instead of the forcing of them ;)22:47
ograyou could put a nailboard on the seat at the windows machine22:53
Lnsyou could also make sure a virus is always on it22:53
Lnsor set a scheduled task to shut it down every x minutes22:54
Lnsor just leave it on exposed to the internet with internet explorer visiting random sites, it's bound to get as slow as molasses after about 2 minutes22:54
* Lns gets the visual of a naked hooker running down new york streets at 2:05am on saturday22:55
AhmuckLns: actually, nope23:13
Ahmucki don't force anybody23:13
AhmuckLns, i too would like to know why23:13
LnsAhmuck: why not ask them?23:14
Ahmucki need to reconfigure the desktop so that it is more windows like.  ie, the application bar on the bottom23:14
Ahmucketc.23:14
Lnsick23:14
AhmuckLns: in this particular case, it's because it's what they are familiar with23:14
Ahmuckie, the large blue E23:14
Ahmuckvs the globe and fox23:14
Lnsyou'd be surprised how motivated people are to learn new things with a little education23:14
Ahmucksure, and we do that.  but you'd also be suprised at how people are loyal to bad products.  look at how loyal people are to thier cars23:15
Ahmuckchevy vs ford23:15
Ahmucketc.23:15
Ahmuckit's what they know23:15
Ahmuckdoes edubuntu have a point list of why it's better?23:16
Lnshaha...very true23:16
Ahmuckfor example, let's take scribus.  i've learned it, and it works well23:16
Lnshttp://www.google.com/search?q=edubuntu+vs+windows&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a23:16
Ahmuckhowever my printer won't even look at it, thought he could upload my layout and print without having me to pdf it out and then bringing it in indesign and laying the page order out again23:17
Ahmuckand the last visit, he strongly suggested i pay out 800.00 to get indesign23:17
Ahmuckeither i'm a bad salesman or people like to go with the flow23:17
Lnswhy won't it print?23:18
Lnsdo other apps print to it?23:18
LnsI always liked Scribus.. great program23:23
Ahmuckit will print.  my printer doesn't want to install it or use it23:26
AhmuckLns: our school allows students to bring mp3 players to school to listen to23:27
Ahmuckie, they allow a fair amount of freedom23:28
LnsAhmuck: OH. Printer, as in a person, not a printer23:28
Ahmuckyes23:29
LnsGive em a liveCD. ;)23:29
Ahmuckheh, doubt that would work.  though a usb key with a live distro might work23:29
Lnsso what's the issue with mp3 players? that linux doesn't have itunes?23:29
Ahmuckactually that's not been approched yet23:30
Lnsso what's the issue?23:33
Ahmucki'll ask23:36
Ahmuckso you think were forcing ubuntu on people?23:37
Lnslol, no23:37
Lnsyou mentioned you wanted to change peoples' wanting to use the winxp computer23:38
Ahmuck[16:17] <Lns> The comments here make me sad, as you're focusing on trying to force people into using something they don't want to use. Sounds familiar....23:38
Lnsand ogra & alkisg were talking about ways to sabotage it... ;)23:38
Ahmuckah23:38
Ahmuckwell, i don't consider it secure23:38
Ahmuckit's getting wiped soon23:38
Ahmuckre-freshed so to speak23:38
Lnsheh, nice term!23:39

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