[00:00] <A_mac> the program was only written in dos
[00:00] <A_mac> dos 6.2
[00:00] <A_mac> oh man im old
[00:06] <A_mac> will kubuntu 8.10 over write everything i have on my hard drive now ? i have alot of stuff on it... dont want to have to reinstall everything again ?
[00:06] <A_mac> im runing ubuntu 8.04 right now
[00:06] <daskreech> A_mac: no
[00:06] <A_mac> ok
[00:06] <daskreech> !upgrade | A_mac
[00:06] <daskreech> Why are you upgrading to ibex now ?
[00:07] <A_mac> ubuntu doesnt see my linksys wifi card neither does pc linux 2007
[00:07] <A_mac> linux xp did but its in russian
[00:08] <daskreech> A_mac: Umm ok Why don't you get a live CD and see if Ibex or jaunty will see it
[00:08] <daskreech> !wifi | A_mac
[00:08] <A_mac> kool
[00:08] <A_mac> thnx
[00:08] <A_mac> is kubuntu better than ubuntu
[00:09] <daskreech> A_mac: wrong channel to ask in
[00:09] <daskreech> But yes. Yes it is :)
[00:10] <jamesjedimaster> I like KDE more than Gnome, so kubuntu is better :)
[00:10] <Carrie_> Ok, so how can I disable that annoying loud beep when I shutdown the computer? :)
[00:11] <daskreech> Sounds ?
[00:11] <eugen> how to you make the clock in kde show it in 12hour format?
[00:12] <jamesjedimaster> Carrie_: system settings -> notifications
[00:12] <Carrie_> aww geez... this isn't for gnome :P
[00:13] <Carrie_> sorry i have 3 channels open :P
[00:13] <daskreech> Carrie_: glad to almost be of help!
[00:14] <Carrie_> got me on the right track though :)
[00:14] <dwidmann> eugen: system settings -> regional & language
[00:16] <siachris> I really need help setting up shared folders in virtualbox ose 2.0.4.  Can anyone help me?
[00:22] <Fanfare> siachris: guest os?, host os?
[00:24] <siachris> my host os is kubuntu and i'm trying to share files with my virtual machine (xp home)
[00:29] <eugen> hey how do make the time format in 12hour?
[00:29] <Fanfare> siachris: u need hostadditions within xp installed?
[00:31] <siachris> i didn't realize that windows needed a specific app in order to see a network drive on a linux system.
[00:31] <Dragnslcr> eugen- on the clock in the panel?
[00:31] <siachris> unfortunatly i have to go but i will be back some time this week and hopefully continue this conversation.
[00:31] <eugen> I don't see any options for the format...
[00:31] <Dragnslcr> eugen- System Settings -> Regional & Language
[00:32] <Fanfare> siachris: k
[00:32] <siachris> thanks though
[00:33] <eugen> Dragnslcr: thx...I changed it, although I don't see the affect in the tray...I need to log off?
[00:33] <Dragnslcr> I don't think so, but maybe. Might just have to wait for it to update
[00:43] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: Says that you have to logout to see effects here
[00:59] <deltagecko> greets to all sysop
[00:59] <deltagecko> how do i find my hardware info?  which app do i use to see ram, cpu, etc.?  thanks in advance
[01:00] <DaSkreech> deltagecko: Umm not sure I always use sudo lshw
[01:01] <DaSkreech> deltagecko: You can do sudo lshw -html > mycomputer.html to get a webpage
[01:02] <deltagecko> the 'sudo lshw worked....trying to generate webpage now....   :)
[01:03] <Fanfare> deltagecko: theres also hwinfo
[01:04] <bartskde2> anyone know how I can customize the kde 4.2 defaults like themes, icons, wallpaper for new users? I've googled til I'm blue with no luck
[01:05] <deltagecko> thanks - webpage generation is success
[01:05] <deltagecko> can i do sudo hwinfo -html > mycomputer.html and get a webpage that way also?
[01:06] <Fanfare> deltagecko: not that i know of...
[01:07] <Fanfare> deltagecko: never needet html
[01:09] <deltagecko> ok...good solutions anyway and the webpage generation worked as well - thanks guys
[01:12] <na_praia> how can i remove kpersonalizer without removing the kde-core kde-devel kde-devel-extras and kdebase??
[01:12] <na_praia> its weird because when i want to remove kpersonalizer it says it will also remove those packages.... :/
[01:13] <na_praia> how can i remove kpersonalizer without removing the kde-core kde-devel kde-devel-extras and kdebase???......its weird because when i want to remove kpersonalizer it says it will also remove those packages.... :/
[01:15] <drbobb> ok, got the jaunty beta up and running
[01:16] <drbobb> video was broken out of the box for me, unlike previous releases
[01:18] <drbobb> needed to load sisfb to fix it
[01:18] <drbobb> still, attempting to upgrade packages via the gui killed the xserver
[01:20] <DaSkreech> na_praia: I think that those are meta-packages
[01:20] <DaSkreech> curses
[01:21] <DaSkreech> drbobb: restart it?
[01:22] <drbobb> DaSkreech: yeah it did restart, i mean the session was killed
[01:22] <drbobb> dpkg kept running in the backhround, though
[01:22] <drbobb> background*
[01:24] <drbobb> sound seems to be dead too
[01:25] <DaSkreech> drbobb: It's supposed to ask you if you would like to restart the X session now
[01:26] <drbobb> DaSkreech: i don't think that's supposed to happen in the middle of configuring a load of upgraded packages
[01:26] <DaSkreech> drbobb: If the xserver is part of those load of upgraded packages it will
[01:26] <DaSkreech> dpkg is not that smart it runs scripts which it comes across
[01:27] <k1en> hi, can anyone instruct on how to create a right-click print option for jpeg/png/doc on konqueror?
[01:27] <DaSkreech> if the Xserver is in the middle of the set of packages dpkg doesn't know the difference between it and a database or a mp3 streaming server
[01:30] <GillesM> hello wranr doesn't work on Kubuntu 9.04
[01:31] <GillesM> xrandr
[01:32] <drbobb> but what's up with the sound failing to work
[01:33] <menax> hey buddies!
[01:34] <menax> I want to install skype. I have downloaded a .deb file from Skype.com, saying is for ubuntu. Right know Iḿ running the Kubuntu 8.04 i386. I run the DEB file but then nothing happens, what is worng with it!?
[01:34] <astrobear> when select empty trash, my trash isn´t emptied... help pulease :)
[01:35] <p_quarles> menax: what do you mean by "run" it? what do you do?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> GillesM: #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <wirechief> menax how do you "run" the .deb
[01:35] <DaSkreech> menax: You "run" it ?
[01:35] <GillesM> DarkriftX:  unbuntu+1 = kubuntu+1 ?
[01:36] <menax> I just click the icon of skype. A screen came up saying it will install it. A process go but then nothing happens the screen close and then no messages nothing, i have rebooted but no skype app is installed
[01:36]  * wirechief runs dpkg i <package>.deb
[01:36] <DaSkreech> menax: try sudo dpkg -i /path/to/skype.deb
[01:36] <p_quarles> menax: type "which skype" in a terminal window; what's the output?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> GillesM: Yes
[01:37] <GillesM> thanks
[01:37] <menax> menax@menax-pc:~$ which skype
[01:37] <menax> menax@menax-pc:~$
[01:38] <menax> no output, just return for new command
[01:38] <p_quarles> menax: do what wirechief suggested then; if that gives you an error, we'll have a lot more to go by'
[01:38] <wirechief> yea but with  sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[01:40] <astrobear> how do you do it DaSkreech, how what is it that drives you to be help on a consistent basis?
[01:40] <DaSkreech> astrobear: Empty trash?
[01:40] <astrobear> yup
[01:40] <astrobear> heh
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Empty Trash doesn't work?
[01:40] <astrobear> right
[01:41] <menax> man what happened! I cannot open a konsole!!
[01:41] <DaSkreech> rm ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[01:41] <DaSkreech> menax: how are you trying to open it?
[01:41] <astrobear> thank you, i was looking for that in ~/.kde
[01:41] <menax> it just try to open and then it closes by itself
[01:41] <DaSkreech> astrobear: FD.o
[01:42] <astrobear> but seriously, how man?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> so Gnome XFCE E and KDE all have the same Trash
[01:42] <astrobear> its impressive
[01:42] <menax> now i can, weird
[01:42] <menax> I hate when it does that!1 it reminds me windows....
[01:44] <menax> Ok
[01:44] <menax> run the deb installation
[01:44] <menax> it says itś missing
[01:44] <menax> menax@menax-pc:~$ which skype
[01:44] <menax> menax@menax-pc:~$
[01:44] <menax> libqt4-gui
[01:44] <menax> should I get that package with adept?
[01:45] <drbobb> KPackageKit is a big step backwards wrt kde3's adept
[01:45] <wirechief> menax what do you get with ls *.iso
[01:46] <wirechief> meanx what do you get with ls *.deb
[01:46] <Kasm279> ...
[01:46] <menax> it works now, I have installed the libqt4-gui package with Adept :D
[01:46] <wirechief> i have iso itis
[01:46] <Kasm279> i cant get kubuntu to turn on my external monitor D:
[01:46] <menax> I got that deb on my desktop, firefox left it there
[01:47] <menax> itś the only file
[01:47] <Kasm279> firefox? use opera!
[01:47] <menax> now it works when I put that package with the help from Adept
[01:47] <Kasm279> anyway
[01:47] <menax> slow down. Im doing my change from windows to Kubuntu
[01:48] <menax> I like the KDE interface thats why I use Kubuntu
[01:48] <Kasm279> menax, me too
[01:48] <Kasm279> (both things0
[01:48] <Kasm279> i just need skethup!!!
[01:48] <menax> I got tired getting the message buy windows, you are a pirate! LOL
[01:48] <drbobb> damn, it used to be possible to reorder konq's tabs by dragging them around, what happened to that?
[01:48] <Kasm279> google sketchup**
[01:49] <menax> I love this is free and it works waaaay better than Microsoft
[01:49] <Kasm279> menax, i didnt ever get that with win XP MCE
[01:49] <Kasm279> anyway
[01:50] <Kasm279> i cant get kubuntu to turn on my external monitor D:
[01:50] <menax> sorry to ask this
[01:51] <menax> Iḿ from chile and I dont get what you say there
[01:51] <Kasm279> but if i restart with it connected, it will clone but i cant set it to extend!
[01:51] <menax> is a joke?
[01:51] <menax> oh I see you are asking that
[01:51] <menax> sorry :P
[01:51] <Kasm279> XP MCE= XP media centre edition
[01:51] <Kasm279> oh, XD
[01:51] <DaSkreech> Guess who's back?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> Back again :)
[01:52] <Kasm279> you?
[01:52] <DaSkreech> menax: install libqt4-gui
[01:52] <Kasm279> can anybody help with this?
[01:52] <DaSkreech> !dualhead > Kasm279
[01:52] <DaSkreech> !xinerama > Kasm279
[01:53] <Kasm279> DaSkreech, thank you
[01:53] <DaSkreech> Sure :)
[01:53] <Kasm279> !thank you, too
[01:53] <Kasm279> !thank you
[01:53] <menax> DaSkreech: I have downloaded that package with Adept. I love that application I get all the packages without any command lines. I know in Linux you hace to write some lines, but since Iḿ a windows user this console freaks me out. But I see is very friendly
[01:53] <DaSkreech> ubottu: thanks
[01:54] <DaSkreech> menax: :-) That's fine.
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Command line is very very helpful and quick
[01:54] <DaSkreech> If you would prefer not to learn it you can still use linux fine
[01:54] <menax> yep, I have to get used to it.
[01:54] <DaSkreech> but it is a very helpful thing to learn
[01:54] <menax> itś just that are so many commands
[01:54] <menax> its confusing for me
[01:54] <DaSkreech> menax: But yes install that in adept then click on the Skype DEB package again and it should work
[01:55] <menax> itś like wevery person have different comnds for do a thing
[01:55] <DaSkreech> menax: Understood
[01:55] <menax> there is a web page with the commands to have a list on what to do to search for an issue?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> menax: Well it's very flexible So many users can build different ways to do the same thing if they like
[01:55] <DaSkreech> !commands
[01:56] <drbobb> oh my sound is back
[01:57] <menax> !love ya bot
[01:58] <DaSkreech> !love
[01:58] <menax> thanks DaSkreech
[01:58] <Kasm279> !monitors
[01:58] <menax> When is the new 9.04 coming out
[01:58] <DaSkreech> menax: Sure no need to rush into learning all of them just learn ones that you need and how they are structured
[01:58] <DaSkreech> !jaunty
[01:59] <menax> and I need to reinstalls it, or it update vie automatic installation?
[01:59] <DaSkreech> astrobear: Me and ubottu are good friends. She slips me answers :)
[01:59] <DaSkreech> !upgrade | menax
[01:59] <DaSkreech> You don't need to upgrade if you don't want to
[01:59] <DaSkreech> but  Jackalope is niiice
[01:59] <menax> Kasm279 you have a nvidia card? which one?
[01:59] <Kasm279> ATi
[02:00] <Kasm279> in a laptop
[02:00] <menax> you want to use your monitor and laptop screen?
[02:01] <Kasm279> menax: ATi 34M
[02:01] <Kasm279> in a laptop
[02:01] <Barridus> is there any way to add a "Places" quicklaunch on the taskbar?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Barridus: Errrm the Quick Launch plasmoid?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Sorry Quick access
[02:02] <Barridus> Quick accsss?  ok i'll try that
[02:02] <menax> I got an issue woth firefox, all the fonts in firefox menu are too small, I have tried changing that in system preferences, but still haveing small characters. Where can i change that I can barely read the menus LOL
[02:03] <Barridus> wait i tried that DaSkreech, that's not it
[02:03] <Kasm279> OH, CHEESE!
[02:03] <DaSkreech> What do you want?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> !info cheese
[02:03] <Kasm279> i managed to turn my laptop's screen upside down
[02:04] <menax> why firefox doesnt respect the fgonts that are in place for KDE, they are so small oin firefox! i want them biiger
[02:04] <Barridus> DaSkreech, new to KDE here so i'm not sure the words maybe.  Basically, the left-pane of Dolphin has that "Places" pane.  Home, Network, Root, etc.  That would be what I'd like as a toolbar popup plasmoid if possible
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Barridus: Ah. Nice Umm Dunno there was one in KDE3 but I think it was custom made.
[02:06] <DaSkreech> Barridus: tried Lancelot?
[02:06] <DaSkreech> Closest thing I can think of now
[02:11] <menax> Where can i fix the fonts in firefox, they are so small. By the way thanks fro the help guys!
[02:11] <menax> I mean the menu fonts, not the html fonts
[02:12] <DaSkreech> i'm betting there is a KIO that will allow youto get the places though
[02:15] <Barridus> DaSkreech, thanks for the Lancelot launcher suggestion.  it might fit the bill.  any idea why the "documents" tab is empty, though?
[02:15] <Barridus> (well the left pane of it, the right 'recent' pane appears to be working)
[02:19] <DaSkreech> Barridus: ou don't have Nepomuk installed likely
[02:19] <DaSkreech> hi jono
[02:20] <jono> hey DarkriftX
[02:20] <jono> erk
[02:20] <jono> DaSkreech,
[02:20] <Barridus> DaSkreech, hmm.  the search daemon?  or am i confusing htat word with something else?
[02:20] <DaSkreech> jono: It's ok no one ever recognizes me anyway :) How are you and things?
[02:21] <DaSkreech> Barridus: Close it's the search store
[02:21] <DaSkreech> strigi searches an nempomuk stores the search
[02:21] <DaSkreech> Barridus: alt+F5 btw
[02:22] <jono> DaSkreech, good thanks, you?
[02:22] <Barridus> alt-f5 brought up lancelot.  i'll look in system settings for nepomuk or strigi
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Loads of crap happening IRL but my virtual life is grand :)
[02:22] <Barridus> i swear i saw one/both of them somewhere
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Barridus: Just for the documents? :) How bad do you want that?
[02:23] <m4cH1n3> how do i run mIRC on wine? I would really like to know ?
[02:23] <Barridus> heh, i have "my way" XD  i'm on a netbook i love to streamline
[02:24] <DaSkreech> m4cH1n3: wine mirc.exe
[02:24] <m4cH1n3> cheers
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> Yikes, I won't ask why you'd want to
[02:24] <DaSkreech> Barridus: I have no documents on this machine but do they come up if you search for the name
[02:24] <Barridus> DaSkreech, appears i have both installed but disabled.  i'll try turning them on
[02:25] <DaSkreech> Barridus: ok they are both kinda CPU hungry currently
[02:25] <ale1987> das how i cam make download of versiom 4.2 of kde?
[02:25] <ale1987> DaSkreech,  how i cam make download of versiom 4.2 of kde?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> ale1987: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[02:25] <ale1987> DaSkreech, i use ubuntu 9.04 beta
[02:26] <DaSkreech> ale1987: You have it already
[02:26] <Barridus> or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:26] <DaSkreech> open konqueror and go Help -> about KDE
[02:26] <ale1987> DaSkreech, yes i am use now
[02:26] <DaSkreech> ale1987: OK what would you like to do then?
[02:27] <ale1987> DaSkreech, yes chane for kde 4.2 on terminal
[02:27] <ale1987> change
[02:27] <DaSkreech> change what?
[02:27] <ale1987> DaSkreech, look
[02:28] <ale1987> DaSkreech, i make download of kubuntu 4.2 and apoint a error
[02:28] <DaSkreech> right
[02:28] <Barridus> hmm.  "strigi search is not running" is that normal for after it completes the HD grind of the first enabling?
[02:28] <DaSkreech> what error?
[02:28] <ale1987> DaSkreech, make in cd
[02:28] <DaSkreech> ale1987: can you pastebin the error ?
[02:29] <ale1987> DaSkreech, i was observe in mode live cd and dont get
[02:29] <ale1987> mode live cd fail
[02:29] <DaSkreech> The live CD won't start?
[02:29] <ale1987> DaSkreech, only 1 error of arkive
[02:30] <ale1987> DaSkreech, exacti dont start
[02:30] <DaSkreech> ale1987: try safe video mode
[02:30] <ale1987> DaSkreech, the bar kubuntu is fail and dont start
[02:31] <ale1987> DaSkreech, more already try  the check disc and show me the error
[02:31] <DaSkreech> ah the disc is bad
[02:31] <DaSkreech> !br
[02:32] <DaSkreech> If you would like help in portugese :)
[02:32] <ale1987> DaSkreech, yes i am bad inglish
[02:32] <DaSkreech> ale1987: no problems if you would like to stay here  I can try help
[02:32] <DaSkreech> I was just letting you know about your options
[02:32] <ale1987> DaSkreech, eu to uma merda kkkk
[02:33] <DaSkreech> ale1987: You have the .ISO file ?
[02:33] <ale1987> DaSkreech, yes i have iso
[02:33] <DaSkreech> ale1987: are you on linux or windows ?
[02:34] <ale1987> DaSkreech, more can be danified
[02:34] <NotADJ> Is there a way to disable the double-tap clicking behavior on laptops?
[02:34] <ale1987> DaSkreech, i use windows on 1 hd and linux in other hd
[02:34] <LjL> NotADJ: i only know how to change that kind of things using synclient, but there's probably better ways
[02:34] <ale1987> DaSkreech, use 2
[02:38] <menax> I sawe on a page firefox is a gnome app, thats why KDE settings are ignored by firefox
[02:38] <menax> could trhat be true
[02:38] <menax> ?
[02:44] <NotADJ> KDE is beautiful. but I think it is better for desktops than laptosp
[02:44] <FloridaGuy> cant install or update anything because of this broken package....    ( E: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-14-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 )
[02:46] <ale1987> ale1987@ale1987:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:46] <ale1987> Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
[02:46] <ale1987> Construindo árvore de dependências
[02:46] <ale1987> Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
[02:46] <ale1987> Os pacotes extra a seguir serão instalados:
[02:46] <ale1987>   akregator apport-qt ark cdrdao dolphin dontzap dragonplayer
[02:46] <ale1987>   foomatic-db-gutenprint gdebi-kde gtk2-engines-qtcurve gwenview hpijs-ppds
[02:46] <ale1987>   ijsgutenprint install-package jockey-kde k3b k3b-data kaddressbook kamera
[02:46] <ale1987>   kate kde-printer-applet kde-style-qtcurve kde-window-manager kde-zeroconf
[02:46] <ale1987>   kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-plasma kdebase-workspace-bin
[02:46] <ale1987>   kdebase-workspace-data kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kdebluetooth
[02:46] <ale1987>   kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdepasswd
[02:46] <ale1987>   kdepim-kresources kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepim-wizards kdepimlibs-data
[02:46] <ale1987>   kdepimlibs5 kdeplasma-addons kdeplasma-addons-data kdesudo kdm kfind klipper
[02:46] <ale1987>   kmag kmail kmix kmousetool knotes konqueror konqueror-nsplugins
[02:46] <ale1987>   konqueror-plugin-searchbar konsole kontact kopete korganizer kpackagekit
[02:46] <ale1987>   krdc krfb ksnapshot ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktimetracker ktorrent
[02:46] <ale1987>   ktorrent-data kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-docs
[02:46] <ale1987>   kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kuser kvkbd kwalletmanager language-selector-qt
[02:46] <ale1987>   libakonadiprivate1 libao2 libavahi-qt3-1 libboost-program-options1.35.0
[02:46] <ale1987>   libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libeet1 libgeoip1 libk3b3 libk3b3-extracodecs
[02:47] <ale1987>   libkdecorations4 libkdepim4 libkexiv2-7 libkholidays4 libkipi6 libkleo4
[02:47] <ale1987>   libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libkpgp4 libksieve4 libkwineffects1 liblua50
[02:47] <ale1987>   liblualib50 libmimelib4 libmsn0.1 libokularcore1 libpackagekit-glib11
[02:47] <ale1987>   libpackagekit-qt11 libplasma3 libpoppler-qt4-3 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl
[02:47] <ale1987>   libqedje0 libqimageblitz4 libqt3-mt libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-help
[02:47] <ale1987>   libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-xmlpatterns libqzion0 libsearchclient0
[02:47] <ale1987>   libstrigihtmlgui0 libstrigiqtdbusclient0 libvncserver0 libzip1 okular
[02:47] <ale1987>   okular-extra-backends openoffice.org-kde openoffice.org-style-crystal
[02:47] <ale1987>   oxygen-cursor-theme packagekit packagekit-backend-apt pinentry-qt4
[02:47] <ale1987>   plasma-widget-network-manager p
[02:48] <LjL> !pastebin | ale1987
[02:50] <FloridaGuy> E: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-14-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:52] <ale1987> vai ti fuder m4v
[02:54] <DaSkreech> menax: It's a GTk app not a Gnome app
[02:54] <DaSkreech> ale1987: Where is the .ISO ?
[02:54] <ale1987> m4v, vai se fuder
[02:55] <ale1987> DaSkreech, here
[02:55] <DaSkreech> ale1987: please use pastebin if you want to paste something large
[02:55] <DaSkreech> ale1987: Linux or Windows?
[02:55] <ale1987> DaSkreech, en pvt?
[02:55] <ale1987> windows
[02:55] <DaSkreech> ale1987: ok Hold on
[02:55] <DaSkreech> ale1987: http://etree.org/md5com.html
[02:55] <DaSkreech> download md5sum.exe
[02:56] <DaSkreech> Put it in C:
[02:56] <ale1987> thanks i go
[02:56] <DaSkreech> C:\windows\system32
[02:56] <ale1987> to fora
[02:56] <ale1987> dificil isso
[03:04] <rmrfslash> What's the consensus on 9.04? Is it still really buggy?
[03:04] <rmrfslash> should I upgrade?
[03:07] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: how resistant are to youbugs?
[03:07] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: depends
[03:07] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: There's always gunna be bugs.
[03:07] <DaSkreech> Yah
[03:07] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: Just wondering if it's more or less stable
[03:07] <DaSkreech> Yes
[03:07] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: and if I should upgrade from 8.10 ;)
[03:08] <DaSkreech> What video card do you have?
[03:08] <rmrfslash> ATI
[03:08] <rmrfslash> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670
[03:08] <rmrfslash> to be specific
[03:08] <DaSkreech> Should be goo
[03:08] <DaSkreech> d
[03:09] <rmrfslash> why, are there issues w/ nvidia or somethin?
[03:09] <rmrfslash> Might be a silly question, but if I upgrade, will I be able to update on the 28th to the final release?
[03:10] <rmrfslash> w/ just an apt-get upgrade
[03:10] <DaSkreech> Intel
[03:10] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: It's what I've always done
[03:10] <DaSkreech> I upgrade like two days before
[03:10] <DaSkreech>  wait a week for the madness to stop then update again
[03:11] <rmrfslash> cool
[03:11] <rmrfslash> lemme try this out... hopefully I don't end up w/ a brick
[03:11] <DaSkreech> You shouldn't
[03:11] <rmrfslash> I already upgraded to KDE 4.2
[03:11] <DaSkreech> If you do come back and throw something at me
[03:11] <rmrfslash> shouldn't be a problem right?
[03:11] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: SHould be interesting :) What repo did you use?
[03:12] <rmrfslash> the ubuntu one
[03:12] <rmrfslash> well... the kubuntu one. i followed the instructions on the kubuntu site
[03:12] <rmrfslash> i installed 8.10 and installed 4.2
[03:12] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: The PPA or the backports one?
[03:13] <rmrfslash> ummmmmmmm
[03:13] <rmrfslash> not sure
[03:13] <rmrfslash> not sure what PPA is
[03:13] <DaSkreech> can you pastebin //etc/apt/sources.list
[03:13] <DaSkreech> !ppa
[03:13] <DaSkreech> It's a personal Repo. So you can build your own packages
[03:13] <rmrfslash> I used backports
[03:14] <rmrfslash> http://pastebin.com/m3557036b
[03:15] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: OK you should be fine then. Ever done a viersion upgrade before?
[03:15] <rmrfslash> nope
[03:16] <rmrfslash> just afraid of not having a laptop when it's done.
[03:16] <rmrfslash> :)
[03:17] <rmrfslash> Is the code frozen at this point?
[03:18] <rmrfslash> I'm gunna give it a go.
[03:18] <rmrfslash> what do I have to lose
[03:18] <rmrfslash> cya in a bit
[03:18] <rmrfslash> hopefully
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[03:46] <peaches> i give up. what is it
[03:54] <LiMaO> peaches: that was a flood attempt i guess =P
[03:56] <bitterchocs> allo all, anyone using ooo3 on kubuntu? i need help
[03:56] <peaches> LiMaO: i settled with: Sewfish
[04:02] <paolo> hey...i still dont know how to install flashplayer
[04:02] <paolo> or flashplugin rather
[04:02] <paolo> can anyone help me pls.
[04:02] <paolo> tnx
[04:03] <LiMaO> paolo: type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:03] <LiMaO> you'll have support for flash, java, mp3, dvd and many more things all installed at once
[04:04] <paolo> LiMao:tnx
[04:04] <paolo> LiMao:i'll try
[04:06] <paolo> LiMao: the result is E: Couldn't find package kunbuntu-restricted-extras
[04:07] <LiMaO> you misspelled it
[04:07] <LiMaO> it's KUBUNTU-RESTRICTED-EXTRAS
[04:07] <LiMaO> read it carefully.. not kuNbuntu
[04:07] <paolo> yeah
[04:08] <paolo> ok ill try it again
[04:09] <paolo> LiMao:it's still the same result
[04:09] <paolo> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:11] <DaSkreech> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:12] <LiMaO> paolo: what are you using?
[04:12] <LiMaO> paolo: what system i mean
[04:13] <paolo> what do you mean system?
[04:13] <paolo> LiMao:what system?
[04:13] <LiMaO> operating system. which version of ubuntu or kubuntu are you using?
[04:15] <paolo> LiMao:kubuntu version 6.06
[04:15] <LiMaO> holy crap
[04:15] <paolo> why?
[04:15] <paolo> :D
[04:16] <LiMaO> paolo: dude, that thing is 3 years old
[04:16] <LiMaO> why aren't you running at least 8.10 or 9.04?
[04:17] <paolo> lol
[04:17] <paolo> It's just all i have
[04:17] <paolo> :D
[04:18] <LiMaO> go get something newer
[04:18] <LiMaO> you're missing a lot
[04:18] <paolo> actually I just borrow this from my friend
[04:18] <LiMaO> you'll be impressed when you check out the newest version :)
[04:18] <jason_froebe> he could do an upgrade in place
[04:18] <paolo> then i found it so hard to use
[04:19] <LiMaO> jason_froebe: from something 3 years old? better to try a fresh install
[04:19] <paolo> jason_froebe:how?
[04:19] <jason_froebe> it should upgrade fine unless paolo has custom packages installed
[04:20] <paolo> is there any other way?
[04:20] <Pasal102> is amarok 2.1 beta already available for kubuntu?
[04:20] <paolo> cause i just used this for temporary
[04:20] <jason_froebe> best is to download 8.10 from kubuntu.com
[04:21] <paolo> jason_froebe:how?/
[04:21] <DaSkreech> paolo: It's installed?
[04:21] <DaSkreech> paolo: in anycase flashplugin-nonfree is for flash
[04:21] <jason_froebe> like LiMaO says, it would be better (at least faster)
[04:22]  * DaSkreech suggests 9.04 beta
[04:22] <paolo> where and how can i get that version?
[04:22] <paolo> can i just download it here?
[04:22] <paolo> in kubuntu?
[04:25] <jason_froebe> yup
[04:25] <jason_froebe> download the iso and burn it to a cd
[04:25] <jason_froebe> paolo - either 8.10 or 9.04
[04:26] <LiMaO> jason_froebe: i guess he wants to download it from here, from the channel itself
[04:26] <LiMaO> heh
[04:26] <paolo> lol
[04:26] <paolo> jason_froebe
[04:26] <paolo> tnx
[04:27] <jason_froebe> np
[04:27] <DaSkreech> paolo: 9.04 is much nicer than 8.10
[04:28] <paolo> DaSkreech:ok2x tnx
[04:29] <Dragnslcr> I think 9.04 will be my first clean install in a while
[04:29] <Dragnslcr> Was going to do it with 8.10, but never got around to it
[04:29] <Dragnslcr> Need to put in another hard drive and set up RAID
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: I thnk 9.04 is a good candidate for it. If OO.o ever gets KDE4 sorted then 9.10 might be better
[04:34] <Dragnslcr> It's mostly moving my home directory that has me worried
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> I assume it'd be best to upgrade to 9.04 first to get all of the app settings converted
[04:36] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: don't have a ~ partition ?
[04:36] <Dragnslcr> I do
[04:37] <Dragnslcr> I'll still have to copy it, though, unless I get really tricky
[04:37] <Dragnslcr> Right now, it isn't on one of the disks that'll be mirrored
[04:40] <LiMaO> Dragnslcr: don't move it around. rename it. /home/user-backup
[04:42] <Dragnslcr> My plan right now is to do a clean install to the new disks (complete with separate home partition), then just copy my home directory from the old disk to the new one
[04:43] <holyscott> once the rc releases tomorrow, what will the apt-get command be to go from beta to rc?
[04:44] <Dragnslcr> Only other thing I can think of is to use the home partition from the old disk for the new install, then copy the whole thing to an empty partition on the new disks and rearrange the mount points
[04:44] <Dragnslcr> holyscott- should be a normal update
[04:44] <holyscott> if o
[04:45] <holyscott> if I've been doing daily upgrades, do I basically already have the rc?
[04:45] <Dragnslcr> Probably pretty close, yeah
[04:46] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: Upgraded
[04:47] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: Like it?
[04:47] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: well... my wireless adapter has ceased to work
[04:47] <rmrfslash> :(
[04:48] <DaSkreech> holyscott: yes you do
[04:48] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: which adapter?
[04:49] <rmrfslash> wlan0
[04:49] <holyscott> I am wanting to do a clean install of 9.04 once its final cause I've somehow broke samba
[04:50] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: knetworkmanager doesn't start on boot, I started it manually, and try connecting to my home wireless but it's a no-go
[04:50] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: My home network is detected automatically though
[04:51] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: use the plasmoid
[04:53] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: Ok... found it.
[04:54] <DaSkreech> rmrfslash: network manager 0.7 isn't really compatible with knm
[04:54] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: tried connecting, saw some dialog come up saying "Connecting OceanNet" but nothing
[04:54] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: never connects
[04:54] <rmrfslash> shoudl I quit network manager?
[04:55] <Dragnslcr> Er, what happened to the disk management part of the system settings...
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: what are you upgrading from btw?
[04:59] <Dragnslcr> 8.10
[05:00] <Dragnslcr> I'm not imagining things when I remember there being a GUI for setting stuff like mount points, right?
[05:01] <aga> in gnome or kde Dragnslcr?
[05:02] <sean> Oh! Herro Prease!
[05:02] <Dragnslcr> If I was asking about Gnome, I'd ask in #ubuntu, don't ya think?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: No you probably don't have it installed
[05:04] <Dragnslcr> Quick Google search brings up a forum post from last year that it wasn't implemented yet
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Funny I remember having it
[05:05] <DaSkreech> or was that Grub editing?
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Hmm :-/
[05:05] <aga> the Q is that i have never seen kde coming with any program like gparted by default.
[05:05] <Dragnslcr> Well, there is qtparted, which isn't installed by default
[05:05] <Dragnslcr> That's not what I'm talking about, though
[05:06] <aga> not in my kde i can assure you.
[05:06] <Dragnslcr> There used to be a section in System Settings called Disks and Filesystems
[05:06] <aga> but anyway gotta go.
[05:07] <DaSkreech> aga: Qtparted hasn't beeen worked on in three years
[05:07] <DaSkreech> someone starts working on it and it will ship
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Well "ship"
[05:07] <aga> dont used, i normally edit from fstab
[05:07] <Dragnslcr> qtparted worked pretty well for me the last time I used it
[05:08] <Dragnslcr> Except for there being one annoying bug in the menu entry, but that seems like it's a Kubuntu problem
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: not saying it doesn't work. Just no one works on it
[05:09] <DaSkreech>  that's not gernerally a good sign
[05:09] <Dragnslcr> Heh, yeah, I just checked the About. (c) 2005
[05:11] <Dragnslcr> "QtParted is back among the living!  After seeing the message about QtParted's death, the Ark Linux team have decided to continue maintaining it. "
[05:11] <Dragnslcr> "Last update: 2005-07-06"
[05:11] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Yep gotta love those posts
[05:15] <Dragnslcr> kde-apps.org has something called Partition Manager
[05:15] <Dragnslcr> Don't think it's in the standard repositories though
[05:15] <Dragnslcr> !info partitionmanager
[05:17] <Dragnslcr> So the only way to change mount points is by editing fstab manually?
[05:18] <p_quarles> gparted is still maintained, and contrary to some people's strange beliefs, it is legal to use GTK+ applications with Kwin
[05:19] <Dragnslcr> Sure, but I don't think gparted does anything with fstab
[05:22] <dwidmann> hmm, qtparted nolonger exists in jaunty, from the looks of it
[05:23] <Dragnslcr> Not surprising, if it's been abandoned for so long
[05:23] <Dragnslcr> Kinda too bad, because it's pretty nice
[05:25] <p_quarles> Dragnslcr: of course it does
[05:28] <Dragnslcr> Not that I can see
[05:28] <bitterchocs> e-jat?
[05:29] <e-jat> hi bitterchocs
[05:29] <p_quarles> Dragnslcr: umm, how do you think it sets mount points?
[05:29] <bitterchocs> 8-)
[05:30] <Dragnslcr> It doesn't, from what I can see in a quick look through the menus
[05:30] <Dragnslcr> Looks like it only manages the partitions themselves
[05:30] <e-jat> bitterchocs: just finish demo kubuntu @ jabatan :) they love it
[05:31] <p_quarles> Dragnslcr: it does; mount points are set through fstab; unless you can tell me how else gparted does that
[05:31] <Dragnslcr> If it does, it's not in an obvious place
[05:32] <Dragnslcr> Can't find anything in the docs about it either
[05:32] <p_quarles> Dragnslcr: are you saying that it doesn't set mount points, or that it doesn't use fstab to do so?
[05:33] <Dragnslcr> I don't see anywhere that it sets mount points for partitions
[05:33] <Dragnslcr> Only creating/deleting/etc. the partitions themselves
[05:33] <p_quarles> Dragnslcr: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screens/gparted_1_big.jpg
[05:33] <p_quarles> third column
[05:34] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, but it doesn't seem to be editable
[05:34] <p_quarles> not if it's mounted
[05:35] <Dragnslcr> Doesn't seem to be editable for an unmounted partition either
[05:36] <Dragnslcr> If it's possible, they've hidden it pretty well
[05:39] <p_quarles> Dragnslcr: hmm; dang me I guess you're right; maybe I was thinking of qtparted
[05:40] <Dragnslcr> Don't think qtparted does it, either
[05:41] <Dragnslcr> It'd be nice, but I can see why they don't. Disk partitioning is independent of fstab
[05:42] <Dragnslcr> Anyway, maybe I'll just edit fstab manually and hope I don't screw it up
[05:42] <Dragnslcr> Maybe that will be easier than creating a new home partition and then copying the directories from the old one
[05:44] <p_quarles> Dragnslcr: just found an app called mountmanager in the repos; qt4 app that looks to do what you're after
[05:46] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I found that too
[06:06]  * willy saludos
[06:10]  * Daskreech waves?
[06:27] <Daskreech> rmrfslash: hi
[06:27] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: hey
[06:27] <Daskreech> rmrfslash: Hows it going?
[06:28] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: So-so
[06:28] <Daskreech> Which is so and which is so?
[06:28] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: Just had ksnapshot open about 99,000,000,000,000 instances
[06:28] <Daskreech> :-(
[06:28] <Daskreech> Man I can never get it to do that
[06:29] <Daskreech> tops out at 55 million for me
[06:29] <rmrfslash> tryin hitting the print screen button fast like 10 times
[06:29] <Daskreech> Oh I don't have print screen attached to ksnapshot
[06:29] <rmrfslash> Anyways, my biggest concern now is to get my Verizon CMDA Broadband modem working again
[06:29] <rmrfslash> Was working w/ knetworkmanager
[06:30] <rmrfslash> when I plug in the modem I see some Mobile Broadband box come up
[06:30] <rmrfslash> And it says Ovation U720/MDC3000
[06:31] <rmrfslash> Coincidentally the USB modem is called USB720
[06:31] <rmrfslash> Though I thought it was made by NOvatel... not Ovation
[06:31] <rmrfslash> Anyways, there's no way to connect.
[06:32] <rmrfslash> I tried making a new broadband connection w/ my Verizon credentials and I can get it to blink for 1 second but then it disconnects
[06:32] <rmrfslash> So, I think my train commute from now on will be lackluster
[06:33] <shaka> anyone how u can set frequency  of cpu for laptop
[06:33] <rmrfslash> should I use kppp?
[06:33] <shaka>  or change default program that controls power management
[06:36] <k1en> .
[06:37] <Daskreech> rmrfslash: is it dial up broadband?
[06:37] <k1en> can anyone tell me how to print on right-click from konqueror (jpeg/png)?
[06:43] <rmrfslash_> DaSkreech: sorry, I was disconnected
[06:43] <rmrfslash_> DaSkreech: did you have any feedback?
[06:44] <rmrfslash_> DaSkreech: or suggestions rather?
[06:44] <Daskreech> k1en: Might need a service menu?
[06:44] <Daskreech> Is it a Dialup broadband?
[06:44] <rmrfslash_> yes
[06:44] <Daskreech> Might need kppp then
[06:44] <rmrfslash> It worked w/ knetworkmanager as a cmda connection though
[06:44] <rmrfslash> which I thought was odd
[06:45] <rmrfslash> I was using gnome-ppp and kppp until Kubuntu 8.10
[06:45] <rmrfslash> then all of a sudden I would plug it in and voila it would connect
[06:45] <k1en> Daskreech, i'm a gnome person myself , i tried googling it and nothing. i guess i can find a service menu tutorial but what printing process konqueror uses ? (i'm running konqueror on gnome)
[06:45] <rmrfslash> without my putting anything in
[06:46] <Daskreech> k1en: Ah interesting. Why are you doing that?
[06:46] <Daskreech> rmrfslash: Might want to ask in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-devel
[06:47] <k1en> Daskreech, i have a problem with nautilus, i cant get it to print on right-click, thunar cant as well, m users demand it
[06:47] <Daskreech> k1en: ah ok Umm hold on
[06:47] <k1en> basically the users dont want to go thru another application to print from the file manager
[06:48] <k1en> Daskreech, much obliged
[06:49] <codebaz> hi all . who can help me on networking ?
[06:50] <rmrfslash> What's ubuntu+1
[06:51] <Daskreech> k1en: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/118201/index.html
[06:51] <Daskreech> rmrfslash: It's the IRC channel for help with Ubuntu+1
[06:51] <Daskreech> !networking
[06:52] <k1en> Daskreech, thank you so much (slow connection here URL still loading..)
[06:52] <Daskreech> k1en: If you like I can show you another more complex service menu for specific filetypes
[06:53] <Daskreech> so you only get print options for jpeg etc
[06:55] <k1en> Daskreech, please. (the page hasnt loaded yet) ,
[06:55] <Daskreech> k1en: Shall I just give you the direct link to that one :) You can open it and peruse it at your leisure
[06:56] <k1en> Daskreech, great!
[06:57] <k1en> Daskreech, seeing that you are a KDE wizard, can I get my mounted smb shared on a sine pane or some sort of bookmarks in konqueror?
[06:57] <Daskreech> http://www.egregorion.net/works/servicemenus/servicemenu-pdf_0.3.3-kde4.tar.gz
[06:57] <Daskreech> sine pane ?
[06:57] <Daskreech> side pane?
[06:58] <k1en> wrong wording? like in nautilus...
[06:58] <Daskreech> Oh Umm Dolphin has that
[06:58] <Daskreech> I think that it's possible for Konqueror to have that
[06:58] <Daskreech> Well I know it is
[06:59] <Daskreech> Just haven't looked for that in Konqueror in a long while
[06:59] <k1en> Daskreech, i would rather use konqueror , maybe in kde you have different wording for it, i guess side pane is wrong, what word am i looking for
[07:00] <Daskreech> I guess a quick way is to press F9 -> Right click on the sidebar -> new -> folder -> Set URL -> Remote:/
[07:03] <k1en> Daskreech, thanks
[07:03] <Daskreech> sure
[07:07] <leifdk1978> morning
[07:42] <adiktd> howdy
[07:43] <codebaz> who can help me on networking ?
[07:43] <adiktd> ne1 have ne idea y i got no sound, card is recog'd
[07:43] <codebaz> PLEASE ............................
[07:43] <adiktd> kmix seems 2 wanna remain muted
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> sup
[07:44] <adiktd> hey ActionParsnip
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: try explaining your issue
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> adiktd: is the channel that kmix is displaying the correct one for volume
[07:45] <adiktd> yes
[07:45] <adiktd> when i right click the icon the mute button box is ticked
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: what are you trying to achieve?  what have you tried
[07:47] <codebaz> ActionParsnip : i have 2 lan card on LINUX os .
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> ok, is there an interconnecting device?
[07:47] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: eth1: 192.168.0.1 connect to ADSL internet & other lan is 192.168.1.1
[07:47] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: connection OK
[07:48] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: win OS have 192.168.1.2 IP ok?
[07:48] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: not pin togather
[07:48] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: LINUX and WINDOWS
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> ok so far, see how this is usful rather than saying "codebaz: PLEASE ............................" like a whiny child
[07:48] <adiktd> how do i unmute kmix
[07:48] <adiktd> its auto muted
[07:49] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: whats that problem ?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> ok so we have a basic router + 1 linux client and 1 windows client
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: what do you want to happen?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> adiktd: not sure, i'd imagine theres a simple command for alsa to unmute
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> adiktd: i'm not sure personally
[07:51] <adiktd> cheers
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: so what is not happening between the 2 systes?
[07:51] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: ّ اشرث ۲ زخپحعفثق
[07:51] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: I have 2 computer
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: you already told me
[07:51] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: sharing and networking
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: well they network as they get www
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: do they both have a link to the www
[07:52] <codebaz> I want to setup a simple network between windows and linux clients
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: well you've got that, you can share files between the 2
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> and printers
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> is that what you mean
[07:53] <codebaz> ActionParsnip : no
[07:53] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: 2 com not ping togather
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: ok then can you be hugely specific and write what you mean.
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> ok then you will need to add an entry to /etc/hosts on the linux side and %Windir%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts on the windows side to help resolve the names to IP addresses
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> usually the router does this but if one is not available then you will have to add this manually
[07:55] <codebaz> ActionParsnip : wait please ... ok
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: kdesudo kate /etc/hosts
[07:57] <codebaz> ActionParsnip: ok . Thanks . wait
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: then add a line starting with the name, press tab then type the ip
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: in windows you may have to make the file writeable as i believe windows marks it read only
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: even though most windows idiots use the standard account as admin so any spyware wanting to edit it has free reign to mark it writable anyway
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: so you can add the same thing there
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: the files are CaSE seNSiTIe so dont go adding any weird capitals just because it takes your fancy
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> codebaz: if you dont give me the info i can't advise
[08:38] <paindep> \join linux
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> !away > Roozbeh|Away
[09:01] <bitterchocs> anyone knows how to check what is the cause hard disk light keeps lighted up?
[09:01] <MarkieMark1> !anybody
[09:01] <MarkieMark1> top
[09:01] <MarkieMark1> !info top
[09:01] <bitterchocs> i did top
[09:02] <bitterchocs> but aint getting answer whats causing the disk to be read/written
[09:02] <bitterchocs> its hanging things up
[09:02] <MarkieMark1> bitterchocs: it's usually there
[09:02] <bitterchocs> intrepid have top
[09:03] <MarkieMark1> what does ubottu know huh?
[09:03] <MarkieMark1> ubottu what do you know?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> !anything
[09:04] <bitterchocs> anything else to see y disk is being accessed? and freezing things up? I cant do much here
[09:07] <bitterchocs> whats kswapd0?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> bitterchocs: you could run lsof
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> bitterchocs: and grep it or pipe it into less
[09:12] <bitterchocs> ok, lsof  looks better...will try to sort it out...too many columns, not sure which to see
[09:14] <drbobb> has anyone figured out how to move tabs around in kde4's konqueror?
[09:14] <drbobb> i mean change their order
[09:14] <bitterchocs> kde4, am now using dolphin
[09:14] <kyle_> hi guys, does any one know how i can see what is using my audio drivers at this current moment? My sip software(twinkle) says they in use yet if i quit amarok they still listed as in use. I would like to see what is actually using them. Any one know how?
[09:16] <kyle_> drbobb: have you managed to ctrl click a link in konqueror having it open it a new tab? like previous versions of kubuntu before jaunty
[09:16] <drbobb> and another Q: is it no longer possible to have an external taskbar (that is not part of the panel)?
[09:17] <drbobb> kyle_: that seems to work ok
[09:18] <kyle_> in jaunty, If i ctrl + left click on a link in konqueror then it opens in a new window. so frustrating.
[09:18] <drbobb> kyle_: try to fiddle with konq's setting, on a clean install it works like you seem to want it to
[09:23] <kyle_> So no one know much about troubleshooting audio drivers?
[09:24] <lokai> kyle_: whats the trouble?
[09:25] <lokai> kyle_: Nevermind, just read it.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty
[09:27] <bitterchocs> is it normal for winbindd to be running even if we are not accessing any windows share?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> bitterchocs: kill the process and run your system a bit, if its fine after a few days, disable it, if it goes weird, reboot and it will restart with the system
[09:30] <bitterchocs> yup its killed, will wait for a few days to see how are things.
[09:30] <bitterchocs> the last few min, things look pretty good again, no lagging.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> bitterchocs: give it a while so you can test with all the activities you do
[09:33] <dmadev_> hi to all.. i need an information.. is there any way to upgrade from i386 to amd64 without formatting my partitions? i've a lot of data in different folders and i don't want to loose or to put them up again...
[09:33] <bitterchocs> yes, but its looking good!
[09:36] <Mamarok> dmadev_: if your /home is in a different folder, you don't have to reformat that one
[09:37] <Mamarok> in a different partition I mean of course
[09:41] <arua> alllloooo
[09:41] <arua> any body
[09:41] <arua> help me...please
[09:42] <arua> how to install new theme in kubuntu 8.04
[09:42] <Guest39449> hi im after sum help pls
[09:43] <knk> i bought a lifecam vx500 today.... webcam n my ubuntu o/s isnt pikin it up
[09:43] <knk> ??????????????????
[09:44] <dmadev_> Mamarok: the problem is that data are in a lot of folder and also not in the /home directory...
[09:45] <dmadev_> if i have to format i've to re-setup everything.. that means 2 days... more or less..
[09:45] <knk> pls help
[09:46] <Mamarok> dmadev_: well, you should put your personal data in a separate partition anyway, makes life easier
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !webcam
[09:47] <Mamarok> like don't put personal data in the / partition
[09:47] <Mamarok> dmadev_: why not move your personal data all to /home?
[09:48] <Mamarok> where it should be in the first place
[09:48] <dmadev_> Mamarok: it's not personal data are software
[09:49] <Mamarok> dmadev_: if it is third party software it should be in /opt
[09:49] <dmadev_> Mamarok: yes
[09:49] <Mamarok> so you can just save/backup the /opt folder and then restore it afterwards
[09:50] <dmadev_> Mamarok: actually the /opt also influents some data in /home and /etc
[09:51] <Mamarok> dmadev_: and setting up a system never takes 2 days on Linux
[09:51] <Mamarok> dmadev_: save/backup those folders then
[09:51] <Mamarok> and then restore the relevant /etc files only once your system is set up
[09:52] <Mamarok> dmadev_: as a rule, if you have enough disk space:
[09:52] <dmadev_> Mamarok: it depends on how much does it takes on untar software and configure it ;P
[09:52] <Mamarok> make separate partitions for /, /home and /opt
[09:52] <dmadev_> Mamarok: i can't save/restore /etc -.-'1
[09:52] <Mamarok> once these changes are done, you will have no mor problems afterwards
[09:52] <Mamarok> dmadev_: why not?
[09:53] <Mamarok> you just restore the necessary settings in /etc, not *all* of /etc
[09:53] <Mamarok> and of course you have to do so with sudo rights
[09:53] <dmadev_> mhmm sorry i was wondering to do that stuff when i'll upgrade to jaunty..
[09:54] <dmadev_> so i was thinking 'bout new jaunty software compatibility on /etc conf
[09:54] <dmadev_> but maybe i can first update the whole system to jaunty
[09:54] <dmadev_> than backup
[09:54] <dmadev_> format/restore
[09:54] <Mamarok> hm, that will not work, if you then change the system from 32 to 64 bit
[09:54] <Mamarok> there will be lost settings in /etc anyway
[09:55] <dmadev_> probably..
[09:55] <dmadev_> ok, thanks..
[09:55] <Mamarok> but there was no problem for me with /home and /opt on a separate partition
[09:56] <Mamarok> just had to restore minimal stuff from /etc
[09:56] <dmadev_> Mamarok: i'll separate those dirs on next install ;)
[09:56] <Mamarok> good idea, once upon a time it was a rule to have separate partitions for that by default, not good this has been dropped in recent distros
[09:57] <Mias> hi
[09:57] <dmadev_> Mamarok: right
[09:58] <Mamarok> the average size needed for / without /home and /opt is easy to calculate for an installer IMHO
[09:58] <Mamarok> sad it's not done anymre
[09:58] <Mamarok> anymore*
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> my / is 2.8Gb :D
[10:03] <Mamarok> mine is 20G, but with /opt
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> yikes
[10:10]  * Mamarok talks about a laptop with 200G
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> my biggest is 80 but i like to be as small as possible
[10:12] <Mamarok> and I have almost nothing in /opt, except for Neon
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> mines empty
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> strange
[10:39] <drbobb> ugh, i forgot the command for unsetting away status
[10:39] <drbobb> ugh, i forgot the command for unsetting away status
[10:39] <drbobb> konversation had that in a menu, and kde4's quassel doesn't :(
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> just /away
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> without any extra parameters
[10:41] <drbobb> ah good
[10:41] <drbobb> so it works like a toggle
[10:41] <drbobb> thx
[10:42] <gianluca> hello
[10:42] <gianluca> i have a problem
[10:43] <Mamarok> !ask
[10:43] <gianluca> if i write #include <string.h> than c="pippo" then cout<<c the result is nothig
[10:43] <gianluca> why?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: what language?
[10:44] <gianluca> c++
[10:44] <Mamarok> gianluca: this is not a programming 101 course, I'm sorry
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> gianluca: i'd ask in #C++
[10:44] <Tm_T> gianluca: also "cout" sounds to me more like C than C++ ...
[10:45] <gianluca> so?
[10:45] <Mamarok> gianluca: C++ is *not* C
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: you can #include <iostream.h> and you get cout cin etc
[10:46] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: I know (:
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[10:46] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: tell that to gianluca (;)
[10:48] <leifdk1978> morgening
[10:52] <android> Hrm, Ive a small issue. when I try to use sftp on konq or dolphin it doesnt work. I can ssh into the box no probs. konq gives me this output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/151986/
[10:52] <gianluca> hello
[10:52] <gianluca> so
[10:53] <gianluca> if i want use string in my program what class i do include?
[10:53] <gianluca> *must
[10:53] <dwidmann> gianluca: string.h
[10:54] <gianluca> i can't but don't run
[10:54] <gianluca> i can but don't run
[10:55] <drbobb> damn, the panel's tooltips corrupt my display
[10:56] <Mamarok> android: you have ssh installed?
[10:56]  * Mamarok should read better :(
[10:56] <Mamarok> android: forget my question, sry
[10:56] <android> Mamarok: yeah, I should have - its only started happening today - I used it yesterday no probs...
[10:56] <android> *g*
[10:57]  * android goes to try from a different machine...
[10:57] <Mamarok> android: you seem to have aborted the process before it could reach the server it says
[10:57] <android> Mamarok: yeah, its curious, cause I certainly am not abortiung it
[10:57] <Mamarok> strange
[10:58]  * Mamarok tries here
[10:58] <gianluca> so^
[10:58] <gianluca> ^
[10:58] <gianluca> ?
[10:58] <gianluca> #include <string>
[10:58] <gianluca> string c;
[10:58] <gianluca>  c="pippo";
[10:58] <gianluca> 	      cout<<c;
[10:58] <gianluca> nothing
[10:59] <android> !paste | gianluca
[10:59] <gianluca> so?
[10:59] <Mamarok> android: works for me, maybe you didn't change the port from 21 to 22
[10:59] <android> grr bot died
[10:59] <Mamarok> !paste | gianluca
[11:00] <Mamarok> !pastebin | gianluca
[11:00] <Mamarok> brilliant, bot is gone :(
[11:00] <Mamarok> gianluca: please don't paste more than 3 lines in a channel, use pastebin.com to do so
[11:01] <android> bot is on its way back in
[11:01] <MarkieMark1> gianluca: main()
[11:02] <android> oh great...
[11:05] <drbobb> ok i'll try a different take: to avoid the hassle of downgrading to kde3, i need a IM client that WORKS. Any suggestions?
[11:05] <dwidmann> gianluca: http://pastebin.ca/1393707
[11:06] <tr00per> hi everyone!
[11:06] <Mamarok> drbobb: doesn't kopete work?
[11:06] <drbobb> not for me
[11:07] <drbobb> I tried connecting to google talk, and GaduGadu - no luck
[11:07] <drbobb> both worked OK in kde3
[11:07] <Mamarok> hm, let me try
[11:08] <zitsep> hi pals! What is the name of the package what contains kubuntu wallpapers? i am searching for the wallpapers from 8.04-9.04
[11:08] <zitsep> (beta for the lattest)
[11:09] <Mamarok> zitsep: kdebase-workspace-wallpapers
[11:09] <dwidmann> kde-wallpapers, kde-workspace-wallpapers
[11:09] <Mamarok> that is, for KDE4
[11:10] <zitsep> i see, thanks :)
[11:10] <Mamarok> zitsep: also there are tons of additional wallpapers available on kde-look.org
[11:10] <zitsep> Mamarok, thanks, I am aware of it! I just wanted to save the original wallpapers from 4.10-9.04 for the different ubuntu releases
[11:11] <Mamarok> drbobb: I had to install Kopete first, sry
[11:11] <drbobb> and huge loads of wallpaper material on flickr.com ;-)
[11:11] <zitsep> i've found a good site what keeps them up 'til 2008. 01.
[11:11] <dwidmann> with kde4, you can get them from kde-look with the "Get new stuff" button in your wallpaper settings
[11:11] <zitsep> you'll like it: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/an-ubuntu-retrospective-in-wallpaper/
[11:11] <drbobb> Mamarok: kopete is in the default install, isn't it?
[11:11] <Mamarok> zitsep: the Kubuntu wallpaper is the KDE standard one AFAIK
[11:11] <zitsep> Mamarok, I see! :)
[11:12] <zitsep> Mamarok, the first kubuntu wallpaper included the name "kubuntu" on the wallpaper, however
[11:12] <marius> i don't find an odc client for linux
[11:12] <Mamarok> zitsep: in KDE3, yes
[11:13] <Mamarok> drbobb: yes, but I removed it as I don't use it
[11:14] <Mamarok> huhu vaiursch :)
[11:14] <vaiursch> hi Mamarok
[11:14] <zitsep> Mamarok, I see. :)
[11:16] <drbobb> Mamarok: i can sign into gtalk within gmail, but i also need GG
[11:17] <Mamarok> drbobb: hm, I couldn't connect to GTalk neither :(
[11:17] <drbobb> heh looks like in jaunty, cron is set up to update /etc/motd every 10min.. what gives?
[11:17] <Mamarok> drbobb: did you try ask in #kde?
[11:17] <drbobb> Mamarok: not yet, no
[11:18] <Mamarok> not sure this is a Kubuntu issue, likely to be one of Kopete
[11:26] <lexus_> l
[11:29] <drbobb> darn i miss the old adept. I think i'll stick to command-line apt-get now..
[11:30] <zitsep> bye
[11:30] <leifdk1978> hey guys is this the channel to ask aboudt kdevelop
[11:33] <dwidmann> you can try here ... there might be more knowledgable people about that in #kubuntu-devel though
[11:33] <asraniel> this is the kubuntu chanel, so no. i don't know if there is a #kdevelop chanel, but walk over to #kde-devel, there are surely people that can help you
[11:36] <leifdk1978> thanx guys
[11:52] <t3rminat0r> has anyone tried mpi in ubuntu?
[12:00] <drbobb> hmmm amarok2 doesn't work too great, either
[12:15] <leifdk1978> ? is there a update notifier in kde
[12:18] <jussi01> yes
[12:18] <leifdk1978> have just changed and yeah cant fiend it
[12:24] <wesker_> hello is this a chat?
[12:24] <jussi01> wesker_: support chat, yes
[12:25] <wesker_> hello world then
[12:25] <leifdk1978> :)
[12:33] <drbobb> yep, amarok2 crashes a lot when editing id3 tags
[12:47] <jose> hola
[12:47] <jose> hi
[13:02] <chfwiggum> !kdevelop
[13:07] <guest431> hi is there a way to use sli on kubuntu?
[13:08] <guest431> i didnt find any driver for my sli cards
[13:09] <SlimeyPete> guest431: yes, it's possible
[13:09] <guest431> boards
[13:09] <SlimeyPete> I'm not sure if it's available in any of the standard configuration screens though
[13:09] <guest431> do you have an url slimeypete
[13:09] <SlimeyPete> http://www.justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-149053.html
[13:09] <SlimeyPete> I used that, years ago
[13:09] <SlimeyPete> might still work
[13:09] <guest431> thank you
[13:14] <JackWinter> what do i have to install to have dkms properly working ?  just loaded nvidia 180.24 (jaunty) and a realtime kernel and it doesn't seem to compile the kernel module ?
[13:15] <jose> saludos
[13:15] <asraniel> anybody here using jaunty and has the problem that kontact does not want to autostart on login ? (it complains about already beeing started)
[13:16] <jose> how are you?
[13:17] <jose> someone speak spanish
[13:17] <asraniel> un poco
[13:17] <jose> i speak a litle english
[13:17] <asraniel> pero pienso que esta mejor si tu vas en el canal #ubuntu-es
[13:18] <jose> yo estoy en el canal no
[13:19] <larsalex> hello
[13:19] <larsalex> how do I open a file??
[13:20] <SlimeyPete> what kind of file?
[13:20] <larsalex> .rar
[13:21] <SlimeyPete> so it doesn't open when you click on it?
[13:21] <larsalex> o
[13:21] <larsalex> thanks!
[13:21] <larsalex> it works now
[13:21] <drbobb> hmm why is apt-get suggesting removal of pulseaudio?
[13:21] <JackWinter> to answer my own question i think i need to install linux-headers-rt too.
[13:30] <remoteCTR1> hi all!
[13:30] <RistoBombata> hi
[13:30] <serge> people... who know how to in kubuntu setup dual displays? seems no easy ways from settings :-(
[13:30] <remoteCTR1> someone please help me with a jockey problem, i cannot enable the ati drivers...
[13:31] <remoteCTR1> serge what card?
[13:31] <serge> intel
[13:31] <rmrfslash> Way back in the 8.10 days knetworkmanager allowed me to simply plug in my USB modem and connect. Now w/ the NetworkManagement plasmoid it thinks I have an Ovation U720 or a 1.1 root hub and I can't connect for the life of me.
[13:31] <rmrfslash> Was wondering if anyone had a similar issue.
[13:31] <remoteCTR1> serge njo easy way, if any way at all...
[13:32] <serge> hard way I know :-) but too lazy to do it with it ;-)
[13:33] <serge> I installed kubuntu beta now and seems much things still not changed ever from kde3 ;-)
[13:35] <remoteCTR1> i think i getting nuts here
[13:35] <remoteCTR1> rrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:36] <remoteCTR1> stoopid hardware drivers windows says i can activate an ati driver but if i click on activate precisely nothing happens
[13:37] <custombrush> my system fans are running very fast at kde 4 and under gnome very slower
[13:47] <Marfi> How far behind Ubuntu will Kubuntu be released?
[13:48] <Marfi> I'm thinking about switching this release
[13:49] <JontheEchidna> Marfi: By 10 or 20 minutes tops :)
[13:49] <Marfi> JontheEchidna: ah, ok. Sounds like a plan. Is there a #kubuntu-release-party?
[13:50] <JontheEchidna> nah, I think they just share ubuntu-release-party
[13:50] <JontheEchidna> one big family, so to speak
[13:50] <Marfi> Ah, ok. Thank ya much. =)
[13:55] <lun4tic> hi
[13:55] <Marfi> hey hey lun4tic
[13:55] <lun4tic> how can i get my Intel Dualcore laptop to boot ubuntu 64bit?
[13:56] <lun4tic> don't all intel dual core cpus have 64bit extensions?
[13:56] <KDE90> hello all
[13:56] <KDE90> how to im enable effects in KDE 3.5
[13:56] <lun4tic> when i try to boot a live cd the system just keeps on rebooting on and on
[14:09] <bolt_> IR remote not working
[14:13] <leifdk1978> ?how do i see wich version of kde i am running
[14:13] <bolt_> it tells you
[14:13] <rmrfslash> leifdk1978: just type in the name of a kde app at the konsol and add --version
[14:13] <rmrfslash> % kopete --version
[14:18] <leifdk1978> thanx
[14:21] <rmrfslash> Do NetworkManagemnt and knetworkmanager call upon the same codebase? I'm really trying to figure out how knm could work and this nm plasmoid is apparently not wanting to connect me to the damned internet.
[14:21] <SlimeyPete> I imagine knetworkmanager is communicating with networkmanager via dbus
[14:22] <SlimeyPete> that's the usual way to do it as far as I know
[14:22] <rmrfslash> I was told to cease using knm
[14:22] <rmrfslash> as knm and the plasmoid conflict
[14:22] <san> msn
[14:22] <rmrfslash> (plasmoid being the preferred option)
[14:23] <rmrfslash> (apparently)
[14:23] <rmrfslash> for now I'm reverting to kppp
[14:24] <rmrfslash> which is craziness
[14:24] <rmrfslash> oh well
[14:24] <bolt_> rmrfslash: see my PM
[14:27] <eugen> hey, how do you install compiz in kubuntu?
[14:27] <eugen> software manager?
[14:33] <bazhang> !ccsm | eugen
[14:33] <bolt_> filash player not working
[14:34] <bolt_> plz help
[14:34] <bazhang> !flash | bolt_
[14:35] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:35] <bolt_> morning
[14:37] <eugen> thx
[14:39] <eugen> ubottu: I've isntalled compiz and the setting manger, how do I enable it now?
[14:39] <eugen> Bazhang: I've isntalled compiz and the setting manger, how do I enable it now?
[14:40] <bazhang> eugen, is this ubuntu or kubuntu
[14:40] <eugen> kubuntu
[14:40] <eugen> i know that in ubuntu it would be under appearence...
[14:40] <eugen> but i don't know where it is in kubuntu
[14:40] <bazhang> eugen, try alt f2 ccsm
[14:41] <bolt_> don't work
[14:41] <eugen> that opens up the settings manager, but don't I need to first enable compiz itself?
[14:41] <bazhang> eugen, what about in desktop effects (system settings iirc)
[14:42] <eugen> bahang: I think I found it system settings->default programs-> window manger
[14:42] <bazhang> eugen, oh you are crossposting in #ubuntu
[14:42] <eugen> but there are two options: compiz, or compoiz-custom.
[14:42] <bazhang> eugen, I will let them handle it then
[14:43] <eugen> whats the difference between the two
[14:44] <bolt_> anyone know how to opperate a polaroid
[14:44] <totix800> Hey, for a while my GTK apps aren't looking like my qt apps anymore. They look like old apps in the 90s, I don't know how to describe it any better but maybe you know what I mean
[14:44] <bazhang> bolt_, what does that have to do with kubuntu support
[14:46] <bazhang> bolt_, keep it in channel
[14:47] <bolt_> is this thing working
[14:47] <SlimeyPete> nah
[14:48] <White_Pelican> what's the best channel to go into for the kubuntu 9.04 remix
[14:48] <White_Pelican> ?
[14:49] <ikonia> White_Pelican: we #ve told you this yesterday
[14:49] <ikonia> White_Pelican: the remix is unofficial and for kde 3.5 only
[14:49] <ikonia> White_Pelican: you posted a URL to it
[14:49] <White_Pelican> I meant for support
[14:49] <felix_> hola
[14:49] <ikonia> well it's unofficial
[14:49] <White_Pelican> I see
[14:49] <ikonia> White_Pelican: pretty much on your own in terms of support - but at the same time, I'm sure people in +1 may help out if they know
[14:50] <ikonia> oh - bye then
[14:50] <artpoetryfiction> Anyone know how to call the Nvidia X server tool with Admin rights? ... sudo ....
[14:50] <ikonia> artpoetryfiction: gksudo nvidia-settings
[14:51] <artpoetryfiction> ikonia: thanks
[14:51] <drbobb> oops what is one supposed to do when plasma is completely frozen?
[14:52] <drbobb> i mean, no response from panel, task list or desktop
[14:52] <eddy_> problem with my profile in kde 3.5.10, I can't change the wallpaper. Only doing right click on the image>actions>....
[14:53] <eddy_> I'm using Ubuntu Hardy with kde 3.5.10
[14:53] <drbobb> especially now that ctrl-alt-backspace is disabled, leaving no halfway clean method to restart my session....
[14:55] <drbobb> ok got rid of it with pkill plasma - what next?
[14:56] <drbobb> shouldn't a session manager auto-restart a dead plasma, or something?
[14:58] <artpoetryfiction> drdobb: I personally just replaced my plasma config with a default and started over
[14:58] <bolt_> hello
[14:58] <drbobb> heh, i just restarted it manually (alt-f2), so far so good
[14:59] <bolt_> youtube wont work
[14:59] <bazhang> bolt_, in ubuntu or kubuntu
[15:00] <bolt_> kubuntu
[15:00] <bazhang> bolt_, please keep it in channel, ie dont PM please
[15:02] <drbobb> ok lemme ask again, does anyone know of a way to reshuffle the tabs in a kde4 konqueror?
[15:03] <bolt_> click and drag
[15:03] <bolt_> bazhang: kubuntu
[15:04] <drbobb> bolt_: nope doesn't work
[15:06] <bolt_> yeah drag one tad to the other tab you want to swap it with
[15:07] <bolt_> you can duplucate tabs you know
[15:10] <rmrfslash> When's my Jaunty RC1
[15:10] <rmrfslash> When is *my* Jaunty RC1 comin' out
[15:10] <rmrfslash> ;)
[15:13] <rmrfslash> ooo.... looks like it's slated for today :)
[15:13] <rmrfslash> well, at least ubuntu RC is
[15:13] <bolt_> flash
[15:15] <drbobb> bolt_: dragging seems to load the url of the initial tab in the one you drop on
[15:16] <drbobb> that is not what i want
[15:16] <drbobb> (and not what dragging does in firefox)
[15:16] <bolt_> dudlucate and close
[15:17] <drbobb> yes one can kludge around it
[15:17] <drbobb> but it's quite clumsy
[15:24] <rmrfslash> uname -m
[15:24] <rmrfslash> woops
[15:24] <katie> hey, my web browsers (firefox,galeon) freeze on me for about a minute when either javascript or flash is loading-- has anyone dealt with this?
[15:25] <bolt_> mine does that
[15:31] <katie> bolt: do you know why?
[15:31] <katie> do you do anything to deal w/ it?
[15:32] <bolt_> no i just wait
[15:32] <rmrfslash> katie: firefox has been in a slow decline over the last year or so
[15:33] <rmrfslash> katie: My firefox will occasionally begin consuming somewhere in the ballpark of 120% CPU
[15:34] <rmrfslash> until I just force quit it and restart
[15:39] <Guest70298> bonjour à tous
[15:40] <guest431> je vodrais etru un etoile
[15:40] <guest431> etre
[15:41] <Guest70298> j'ai un soucis, je ne peux visionner des video sur youtube et autres
[15:41] <Guest70298> il me manque un plug in, mais je ne sais ni lequel et ni comment y insaller
[15:41] <proger369> how to copy config folder on bootable kubuntu ?
[15:42] <bazhang> !fr
[15:42] <Ubotwo> Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
[15:42] <Guest70298> merci
[15:42] <proger369> and in english please :D
[15:43] <katie> rmrfslash: is there a browser I can use that isn't slow like that? galeon does the same thing..
[15:43] <proger369> i must copy "config" on C:  i'm not an administrator on Windows and i must to copy that to my pendrive
[15:44] <rmrfslash> katie: I dunno, sadly Firefox is the browser that most people are using outside of Linux
[15:44] <rmrfslash> katie: you can try opera
[15:45] <genii> proger369: So if I understand correctly: You are booted to livecd, and want to copy a file/folder from what is the Windows C: drive to an external USB stick or so?
[15:45] <katie> hmm, okay
[15:46] <katie> so there really is no fix to this firefox thing? it's just a common thing that everyone deals with? that seems really weird
[15:46] <rmrfslash> katie: opera is hell-bent on standards compliancy (ACID tests and what not) and in my opinion, it looks and feels nicer... but has far less market penetration than Firefox.
[15:46] <proger369> genii: yes :D
[15:47] <genii> katie: Much of the time the issue seems to be memory leaks or other issues with Flash plugins, etc.
[15:47] <rmrfslash> katie: how often are you experiencing this. You know some peoples' javascript can be written like crap and cause the browser to hang.
[15:47] <proger369> genii: and Windows must works correctly later
[15:47] <katie> i experience it pretty often, actually with gmail
[15:47] <katie> when I load gmail at first, I can't interact with the page for about a minute
[15:48] <katie> and other popular sites-- if I load weather.com, I can't do anything on that page for about a minute, either
[15:48] <rmrfslash> katie: that's not *necessarily* the browser's fault, but the browser should detect javascript that's getting out of control w/ memory and ask if you want to kill it (which firefox does on occasion)
[15:48] <hunter> hi folks..
[15:48] <katie> it's almost like it won't let me interact with the page until everything, including all ads, are loaded
[15:48] <genii> proger369:  The livecd does nothing to your hard drive to alter it, unless you actualy decide to install the operating system. When on livecd, on the desktop appears shortcuts to the windows drive and to the usb stick?
[15:48] <rmrfslash> katie: oh, this seems bad. people don't deal w/ this
[15:48] <hunter> queston: how can i get a mac address from the ip... anybody knows?
[15:48] <katie> I didn't have this problem a few weeks ago, some update screwed something up
[15:49] <rmrfslash> katie: what version of ff are you running
[15:49] <katie> 3.0.8
[15:49] <hunter> mac addresses?
[15:50] <rmrfslash> katie: hmmm.... kubuntu 8.10?
[15:50] <genii> Bah, work. AFK
[15:50] <proger369> genii: my kubuntu doesn't see windows drives but a PSP, flash drive and others works.
[15:51] <katie> it's hardy, whatever that is
[15:51] <katie> let me see
[15:51] <maskedone> So im trying to network using SMB to my wife's computer. So far I can see the workgroup in dolphin/konq but its empty
[15:51] <katie> 8.04
[15:52] <maskedone> if i use JFTP it shows all the folders but that program does not let me copy/paste stuff within shared folders
[15:53] <maskedone> Im thinking the problem is i have it password protected and konq/dolphin dont give me an option to try to login to the remote comp
[15:53] <proger369> genii: when I install kubuntu on the disk the partitions will work ?  (sory for my english xD )
[15:54] <eduhell> greetings, I'm trying to setup dual screens on kubuntu jaunty beta using Randr
[15:54] <eduhell> it is working fine but a small part of the notebooks desktop is showing on the lcd monitor
[15:54] <eduhell> can anyone help me?
[15:54] <Pici> eduhell: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[15:54] <eduhell> ok
[15:54] <eduhell> thanks
[15:56] <proger369> genii: my USB drives are on desktop :)
[15:57] <BluesKaj> maskedone, make sure your wife's pc is Mshome
[15:58] <genii> proger369: You don't require install of Kubuntu to move files between disks you can see on the desktop of the booted cd
[15:59] <rmrfslash> katie: you could try reinstalling ff
[15:59] <hunter> mac address? anyone.. maybe..
[16:00] <bazhang> hunter ifconfig
[16:00] <rmrfslash> katie: $ sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:00] <rmrfslash> or I think there's a reinstall switch for apt-get
[16:00] <proger369> genii: so how can I do that ? I don't see C:\ and other disks ;/
[16:00] <genii> proger369: Please open the program called Konsole, and then to type in: mount                     and then hit enter. The results you see, copy with mouse and then use pastebin to show me the result.
[16:01] <genii> !paste | proger369
[16:01] <Ubotwo> proger369: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:01] <genii> proger369: On Kubuntu the disks will not be called like C: D: and so on but different names than Windows calls them
[16:02] <maskedone> BluesKaj hers is WorkGroup but i do see WorkGroup ib konq just when i go in it there is no comp listed
[16:02] <BluesKaj> which windows , maskedone ?
[16:03] <maskedone> vista :(
[16:03] <maskedone> i have a feeling if i disabled password req on her machine it would work but id rather not do that
[16:04] <BluesKaj> ok, so is my wifes's pc and if you use MSHome as the pc name
[16:04] <BluesKaj> you should get a login oprtion to the shared files
[16:05] <maskedone> the workgroup she is under is workgroup and when i go into there with dolphin it is empty and eventualy says timed out
[16:05] <proger369> genii: yea i forget here- http://paste.ubuntu.com/152149/
[16:05] <genii> proger369: OK, reading
[16:05] <maskedone> what i dont get is why it worked fin on the other program i mentioned? except on that one you cant move files sadly
[16:06] <maskedone> i had set up the other one to login with her user/id password and thats how it suddenly worked, was wondering if there is something like that i can change in konq or dolphin
[16:07] <genii> proger369: OK, in that, the drives of sdb1 and adc1 seem to be your removeable ones, but the main drive is not there. Please in Konsole to do: sudo fdisk -l                     and then pastebin also those results
[16:07] <BluesKaj> maskedone , do you have samba installed , i assumed you do
[16:08] <maskedone> yup have samba installed
[16:08] <proger369> genii: ok here http://paste.ubuntu.com/152151/ :)
[16:08] <genii> proger369: Reading
[16:10] <genii> proger369: Good, that shows us your Windows disk is sda and the partition we likely want to mount is the one called /dev/sda2
[16:10] <BluesKaj> maskedone, try this : sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt && sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount
[16:10] <genii> proger369: Work requires me a few minutes. Please be patient, I will return
[16:11] <proger369> genii: yea I see it on another aplication but i can't to open
[16:11] <proger369> genii: ok but i must go to city i have 15 minutes left ;/
[16:13] <maskedone> says /usr/bin/smbmnt: no such file or directory
[16:14] <maskedone> im starting to wonder is im missing a samba file or something odd like that?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> ok maskedone , install the samba GUI it gives you options to share , but you need to setup file sharing on MShome on your wifes pc , it's part of the Workgroup
[16:15] <maskedone> ok
[16:16] <maskedone> is it called Samba GUI in package manager?
[16:17] <genii> proger369: Back for a bit. So to try:    sudo mkdir /media/sda2 && sudo mount -t ntfs -o user /dev/sda2 /media/sda2                              And then please pastebin result of any errors if they come. If no errors, see if command:  ls /media/sda2               shows the files there
[16:21] <proger369> genii: not errors /media/sda2 doesn't want open
[16:21] <genii> proger369: Please pastebin the oerrors it says then please
[16:21] <genii> *errors
[16:21] <genii> (probably filesystem is marked unclean)
[16:22] <genii> BRB 2-3 minutes
[16:22] <proger369> genii: they are in Polish xD i translate on google...W8
[16:24] <BluesKaj> stuff to do ..BBL
[16:24] <proger369> genii: it's   lack of power to this location
[16:28] <proger369> genii: sory but I must go my friend is waiting I go there for 1,5 hour. want my e-mail for send instructions ?
[16:28] <tsuther> hello all - anyone using evolution with kde on jaunty?
[16:28] <genii> proger369: Just return here later
[16:29] <Pici> tsuther : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[16:29] <proger369> genii: OK I will be :D
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[16:30] <maskedone> BluesKaj, now im running SMB4K as my Samba GUI and it lets me get into the comp but gives me errors anytime i try to mount a folder to view it
[16:37]  * jtholmes is away: for about 3 hours
[16:43] <Mamarok> !away | jtholmes
[16:43] <Ubotwo> jtholmes: You should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»
[16:48] <BluesKaj> maskedone, now try these commnds in the CLI since you've installed smb4k :sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt , then , sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount
[16:51] <maskedone> first command did not work second command did
[16:51] <maskedone> and error i get in smb4k is error 112 = Host is down
[16:51] <maskedone> and yeah its not down lol
[16:53] <maskedone> im searching google and it seems to be a commong problem
[17:01] <maskedone> uid in program is set to 1000 btw
[17:02] <bolt_> humm
[17:02] <maskedone> online says its because ubuntu does not come with smbfs support only CIFS now that we're having this problem
[17:02] <genii> sudo apt-get install smbfs                  in that case
[17:05] <BluesKaj> strange , doesn't samba come installed by default ?
[17:08] <Ash-Fox> !pm | bolt_
[17:08] <Ubotwo> bolt_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[17:08] <Ash-Fox> !language | bolt_
[17:08] <Ubotwo> bolt_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:08] <LjL> ubotwo: part
[17:12] <bolt_> ash-fox: what was that your gay , good for you
[17:12] <bazhang> bolt_, stop that
[17:13] <Ash-Fox> !etiquette | bolt_
[17:13] <bolt_> bazhang why
[17:14] <bolt_> fine
[17:14] <bazhang> !coc > bolt_
[17:18] <moonflux> what's the best way to debug plasma crashing and restarting all the time? kde 4.2.2 on kubuntu jaunty
[17:18] <moonflux> apport or what its called pops up the first time but doesn't have a useful stacktrace
[17:18] <moonflux> I think I've got the -dbg packages installed
[17:18] <moonflux> (kdebase*-dbg)
[17:18] <bazhang> !jaunty
[17:27] <genii> BluesKaj: No, samba does not. the smb.conf file exists for instance and smbclient is installed, but smbfs is not, and samba itself is not
[17:28] <BluesKaj> ok genii , gotcha
[17:30] <genii> BluesKaj: I think the rationale is that since nfs is the native *nix way and not smb, just the client
[17:30] <pinheiro> Riddell: ping
[17:31] <pinheiro> somthing wrong with the planet page
[17:36] <p_quarles> pinheiro: speaking of Planet, nice work on the new kmix icons :)
[17:41] <pinheiro> p_quarles: thanks dough a lot of people seam confused about what they are
[17:41] <pinheiro> or what kmix is
[17:43] <p_quarles> really? in any case, those icons do a good job of providing a visual explanation, at least to a greater degree than past mixer icons I've seen
[17:44] <pinheiro> think so 2
[17:47] <eagles0513875> !kernel
[17:55] <yurimxpxman> has AIM stopped in pidgin for anyone else?
[17:59] <jason_froebe> yurimxpxman - I had to resign in to AIM but no further issues
[18:00] <yurimxpxman> jason_froebe: I
[18:00] <yurimxpxman> oops
[18:00] <yurimxpxman> jason_froebe: I've tried reconnecting, different accounts, etc... nothing works
[18:01] <jason_froebe> yurimxpxman - I'd say wait a few minutes and try again
[18:01] <yurimxpxman> jason_froebe: I've waited a few days ;-)
[18:02] <jason_froebe> dunno then
[18:02] <yurimxpxman> jason_froebe: what server are you using?
[18:02] <jason_froebe> ask on #pidgin is my advice
[18:02] <yurimxpxman> jason_froebe: no one's answering
[18:06] <Ketrel> Is there a repo with Amarok 2? (and if so, is it already included?)
[18:08] <jason_froebe> Ketrel - it is included in Kubuntu 9.04
[18:13] <the_dark_warrio> my windows entry on grub menu is not showing. This happened after I've installed Kubuntu, how do I add it back?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> !grub | the_dark_warrio
[18:16] <the_dark_warrio> BluesKaj: The problem is the opposite. I had windows, and after installing kubuntu the windows entry was gone, although I can access windows HD with kubuntu
[18:29] <rmrfslash> I'm trying to install the proprietary driver for ATI but the little tool is saying my xorg.conf file is "invalid"
[18:29] <rmrfslash> I've even erased the sucker altogether, but i still get this error. Anyone gots any suggestions?
[18:30] <on51aught> Im sorry I just joined, what seems to be the problem?
[18:31] <rmrfslash> I'm trying to install the proprietary driver for ATI but the little tool is saying my xorg.conf file is "invalid". I even tried erasing the file altogether but I still get this error. Then I tried dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and *still* get this error.
[18:32] <on51aught> intrepid ibex ?
[18:32] <rmrfslash> jaunty actually
[18:33] <rmrfslash> I'm riding a jackalope right to beta-ville
[18:34] <on51aught> nice,
[18:34] <on51aught> well, the only thing I could come up with was that the ati driver for some reason doesnt work with the updated version, which will require ATI to release a driver for jaunty in the near future
[18:35] <rmrfslash> yeah... the only thing I like about jaunty is linux 2.6.28 and that now my laptop touchpad returns after a suspend-to-ram
[18:35] <on51aught> have you tried installing xubuntu and then retrying the driver install
[18:35] <rmrfslash> why would I install xubuntu?
[18:36] <on51aught> I believe some of the kernal files are a tad different. I've heard of people getting drivers to work after installing Xubuntu
[18:36] <on51aught> it was just a thought
[18:37] <rmrfslash> I like KDE better than XFCE
[18:38] <on51aught> same here
[18:38] <rmrfslash> I don't even see the point of xfce to be honest...
[18:38] <Pollywog> is there a way (in Intrepid) to have the KDE panel only show the apps in the current desktop, as was possible in Hardy?
[18:39] <rmrfslash> It's in the task manager settings
[18:39] <Pollywog> rmrfslash: for lower perforning machines
[18:39] <Pollywog> ty
[18:39] <rmrfslash> right click on the task manager and the first window has check boxes for doing exactly that
[18:39] <Pollywog> thanks
[18:40] <rmrfslash> so why not just run Joe's Window Manager ;)
[18:40] <rmrfslash> Jubuntu
[18:42] <on51aught> Im running intrepid server on an old pentium III and 512 of SDRAM
[18:42] <rmrfslash> Jubuntu in launchpad: Ubuntu for Jewish people
[18:42] <on51aught> have had no problems, even when testing my applications
[18:43] <rmrfslash> Ubuntu with a focus on Jewish culture
[18:43] <on51aught> are u serious?
[18:43] <rmrfslash> im serious
[18:43] <on51aught> thats hilarious
[18:43] <rmrfslash> I know.
[18:43] <on51aught> do they have a afrubuntu?
[18:43] <rmrfslash> lol
[18:43] <rmrfslash> Satbuntu
[18:43] <genii> !ot
[18:44] <on51aught> back to your problem rmrfslash, which ATI card are you trying to install the driver for?
[18:45] <rmrfslash> Mobility Radeon HD 3670
[18:47] <on51aught> damn man, looks like your stuck until ATI releases a driver for the new version, which wont be until after the official release of JAunty. Then again it's ATI and we all know how slow they are on releasing drivers.
[18:48] <Pollywog> I do not see a task manager in KDE4
[18:48] <Pollywog> not in Intrepid
[18:48] <Pollywog> I think Jaunty has it
[18:48] <vdvas> hello.i'm russia man
[18:49] <rmrfslash> The open source ATI driver is coming along too sloooooooowwwwwly
[18:49] <vdvas> how i can change use kdewallet to seahorse?
[18:49] <rmrfslash> no there's one
[18:49] <rmrfslash> I'm using it
[18:49] <Pollywog> I must have a faulty install then
[18:49] <rmrfslash> You to to the add widgets thing?
[18:49] <rmrfslash> No Task Manager?
[18:50] <Pollywog> not a problem, when my new laptop arrives I will do a clean install on this one
[18:50] <Pollywog> no task manager here
[18:50] <rmrfslash> oh
[18:50] <rmrfslash> oh
[18:50] <rmrfslash> yeah
[18:50] <rmrfslash> It might be a 4.2 thing
[18:50] <rmrfslash> :( sorry
[18:50] <Pollywog> np
[18:50] <rmrfslash> I keep forgetting I upgraded my 8.10 to KDE 4.2.2
[18:50] <rmrfslash> KDE 4.1 is severely limited and buggy
[18:51] <rmrfslash> you'll be happy w/ jaunty
[18:51] <Pollywog> I upgraded Hardy to Intrepid but after Jaunty is released I will do a clean install, I am running Jaunty in virtualbox
[18:51] <Pollywog> it is nice
[18:51] <rmrfslash> yeah, it's nice
[18:52] <rmrfslash> But I'm having a) problems w/ my ATI proprietary driver and b) with the NetworkManager plasmoid that won't let me use my USB Verizon CMDA modem
[18:52] <Pollywog> when I upgrade ubuntu, something is always broken, usually Nvidia
[18:52] <Pollywog> but a clean install fixes it
[18:53] <rmrfslash> That's why I'm starting to like ATI. AMD is the only company who released the specs of their graphics cards even through the 6xx  models to the open source community
[18:53] <Pollywog> I ordered a HP2133 netbook for $300 and when it gets here I can upgrade the desktop machine
[19:02] <proger369> genii: I'm back :D what I can to do ?
[19:06] <proger369> genii: I'm ready :D
[19:08] <BluesKaj> !ru | vdvas
[19:08] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:18] <vdvas> ubottu: I want to speak english, because it return me to school time 9in my mind) wherre I learn it)
[19:27] <carlos_> Hola a tots
[19:31] <rfa> hallo an alle
[19:32] <rfa> hab hier nen kleines Problem habe Kubuntu Jaunty zulaufen und meine Plasmoid lassen sich nicht mehr frei auf dem Monitor verschieben
[19:33] <jamesjedimaster> !ge
[19:33] <jamesjedimaster> !de
[19:33] <rfa> thanks
[19:34] <genii> /back
[19:34] <genii> Bleh
[19:40] <roadrunner1> is there a way to make a message box popup in GUI from the command-line?
[19:41] <genii> If you have some gui app, you run it in a terminal and it will automatically do that
[19:41] <genii> Bah, another ask-n-run victim
[19:44] <rmrfslash> roadrunner1: try looking into kdialog
[19:45] <rmrfslash> oh, yeah... he/she's gone
[19:45] <rmrfslash> :-/
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> also could use: zenity --error --text 'Hello World!'
[19:47] <rmrfslash> zentiy is gnome though, right?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> !info zenity
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> doesnt say
[19:48] <rmrfslash> man zenity?
[19:48] <rmrfslash> !info kdialog
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> aye its gtk
[19:48] <KDE30> !info ATI
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> !find dial
[19:48] <KDE30> !info ati-radeon
[19:49] <rmrfslash> too bad kdialog *does* exist
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> !info dialogue
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> !info dialog
[19:49] <rmrfslash> man zenity: display GTK+ dialogs
[19:50] <KDE30> how i install drivers to KDE 3.5? i installed KDE 3.5 in Ubuntu 8.10 and in KDE Desktop i try open Catalyst Contol Center but im get error how to im install ati driver what is for kubuntu
[19:50] <rmrfslash> man kdialog: no man page
[19:50] <rmrfslash> so there *is* a man page in kubuntu for zenity, but not for kdialog
[19:50] <rmrfslash> go figure
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> weird stuff huh
[19:51] <rmrfslash> if that's what were calling it, then yeah.
[19:52] <jamesjedimaster> kdialog --help
[19:52] <rmrfslash> jamesjedimaster: yeah... poor mans man page
[19:53] <theuser1> how can i see national geographic documentry movies in urdu or hindi (indian) language on internet. i comes in those languages on tv in india through.?
[19:53] <rmrfslash> the cable company
[19:54] <theuser1> rmrfslash:  i need that on the internet
[19:55] <rmrfslash> rmrfslash: national geographic is not a public access (free) channel, so I don't think you can find NG content on the internet freely
[19:55] <rmrfslash> woops, why did I writ my own name
[19:55] <ciros_> -.-   stupid thing isnt saving right
[19:55] <theuser1> rmrfslash:  i see many movies on youutube. in english
[19:55] <rmrfslash> more or less illegally
[19:56] <rmrfslash> theuser1: I don't think this is the correct channel for those kinds of questions anyways.
[19:56] <rmrfslash> theuser1: not that I'm moderating this channel or anything
[19:57] <theuser1> ya. well thought some one new
[19:57] <theuser1> knew
[19:57] <rmrfslash> hulu is a cool site
[19:57] <rmrfslash> that's about all I know
[19:59] <Ciros> what is the best method for accessing windows shares
[19:59] <rmrfslash> samba
[19:59] <Ciros> -.-    guess now just to bang my head to get that working right
[20:01] <Ciros> but am happy enough that 9.04 is working, just too bad I cant install drivers for my vid card, as that seems to be what causes weirdness.
[20:02] <rmrfslash> I think you can use a few things: 1) Alt+F2 and type smb://... 2) konqueror 3) $ mount -F smbfs
[20:03] <Ciros> yeah have to set up shares or something I am sure.
[20:03] <rmrfslash> Well yeah
[20:03] <rmrfslash> You would need something to mount ;)
[20:03] <Ciros> well that I have P  my desktop that has my bookmark backup
[20:03] <rmrfslash> samba doesn't support file locking... just an FYI
[20:04] <Ciros> cept I can get to the computer just not the folders.
[20:04] <rmrfslash> I haven't done a lot of samba stuff
[20:04] <robinr> rmrfslash: according to docs it does
[20:05] <rmrfslash> really? I tried using a samba share fro SVN and wouldn't work cuz I couldn't get exclusive file locks
[20:05] <robinr> maybe misconfigured
[20:05] <rmrfslash> only NFS supported exclusive file locking
[20:05] <rmrfslash> that could very well be
[20:05] <lup0> shouldn't the RC be today out?
[20:05] <rmrfslash> it was a crappy NAS
[20:05] <rmrfslash> lup0: that's what I thought
[20:05] <robinr> there are lots of options for locking in samba
[20:06] <rmrfslash> lup0: of course "today' isn't over
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash: is in some coutries
[20:06] <rmrfslash> lup0: at least for us EST dwellers ;)
[20:06] <lup0> rmrfslash: 2 hours left in my today :)
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> 4 hours for us
[20:09] <Ciros> only 3pm for me......
[20:09] <lup0> "This is still a release candidate." <- From update-notifier-kde -d
[20:09] <lup0> does that mean the RC is in the repositories?
[20:10] <Ciros> yeah.....I know that i just did 9.04 update from  update-notifier-kde -d.
[20:11] <lup0> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview <- This page also seems to be talking about RCs
[20:22] <victor__> does it exit a simillar aplication to gnome-art for kde???
[20:22] <Administrator> hi i was wondering if kubuntu could use a quad core cpu?
[20:24] <Administrator> ?
[20:24] <cricketol> hi i was wondering if kubuntu could use a quad core cpu?
[20:25] <joshjtl> how can I extract a zip file that is multiple parts?
[20:26] <rmrfslash> Administrator: I think it should be able to. Do a cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:26] <rmrfslash> My machine, which is a quad core shows CPUs 0,1,2,3
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> joshjtl: unzip <first zip file>
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> joshjtl: if its a rar then read
[20:27] <cricketol> cool and what about the ddr types? can it use 3 ?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> !rar
[20:27] <joshjtl> ActionParsnip: its a zip but just unzip file1 will be enough for it to do all the files in the multiple file?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> joshjtl: give it a go. i'd imagine it will read the next file automagically
[20:29] <victor__> does it exit a simillar aplication to gnome-art for kde???
[20:30] <rmrfslash> cricketol:  I have ddr3 in my laptop, works fine
[20:30] <rmrfslash> and ddr3 in my workstation
[20:42] <shock_day13> hey how are you?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash: does it make a difference over ddr2?
[20:55] <rmrfslash> ActionParsnip: theoretically
[20:55] <slow-motion> hi
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash: i want visible / experienceable speed increase not theoretical
[20:57] <rmrfslash> ActionParsnip: I think ddr3 is theoretically 2x the speed of ddr2 so...
[20:57] <rmrfslash> But all your favorite applications are now 2x more bloated over that same span of time so....
[20:58] <rmrfslash> I think it all evens out :)
[20:58] <Dragnslcr> ActionParsnip- I doubt you'd notice the difference for normal programs
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> ok i'll save my cash
[20:58] <Dragnslcr> Most programs these days have the network or the hard disk as the bottleneck
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> very much so
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> hardware scsi raided SDD drives
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[20:59] <Dragnslcr> I wouldn't buy a new motherboard, CPU, and memory just for DDR3, but if you're building a new system, DDR3 is probably the standard by now
[20:59] <rmrfslash> ActionParsnip: ;)  there ya go  RAID
[20:59] <rmrfslash> ActionParsnip: I want RAID 5 solid-state drives
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> hard raid, not this software rubbish people use
[21:00] <rmrfslash> ActionParsnip: yep... I got a PERC i/6 in my machine
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash: sweet!
[21:01] <rmrfslash> The soft RAID is good though.
[21:01] <rmrfslash> At work we got a bunch of the same machine
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> i dont rate it compared to hard
[21:01] <rmrfslash> we tested Software RAID 5 vs Hardware RAID 5 vs a single disk
[21:02] <rmrfslash> obviously the single disk was garbage
[21:02] <rmrfslash> But sw and hw raid were surprisingly comparable
[21:02] <rmrfslash> i don't remember the results
[21:02] <rmrfslash> and our tests were
[21:02] <rmrfslash> and our tests werent extensive
[21:02] <Dragnslcr> Okay, so maybe DDR3 boards are still a lot more expensive
[21:03] <Dragnslcr> My motherboard does hardware RAID. Have to do a clean install of 9.04 and set up the mirror
[21:04] <rmrfslash> Dragnslcr: how many drives do you have/does it support?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> rmrfslash: when ive needed raid ive always bough a seperate card so that all the raiding is taken away from the OS
[21:05] <Dragnslcr> I'm just going to mirror a couple 500 GB drives. Right now I'm just running on a 250 GB
[21:05] <rmrfslash> ActionParsnip: yeah, which is the best scenario
[21:06] <Dragnslcr> I think it supports up to 6 drives
[21:06] <rmrfslash> Dragnslcr: RAID 5 support?
[21:07] <Dragnslcr> Yep
[21:08] <Dragnslcr> 0, 1, 0+1, 5
[21:10] <rmrfslash> Get 3 or 4 drives, RAID 5, you're machine might be clear for lift-off
[21:10] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[21:11] <Dragnslcr> I'm doing it primarily for redundancy, even though I've never had a disk fail (except for that 40 GB IDE disk that had been sitting in a closet for two years)
[21:12] <rmrfslash> Oh crap... I gotta run
[21:12] <rmrfslash> cya
[21:18] <hggdh> quesiton: what data should be asked for a possible memory leak in plasma (c.f. bug 343944)?
[21:22] <slow-motion> n8
[22:00] <Arminius>  ok I'll try to sum my big problem up I got some trouble with KWin and Compiz as window managers I set KWin as default manager, but at restart, Compiz is always set back as default window manager, and I have no idea why. and it's causing me some trouble (no top bar on all windows) anyone an idea?
[22:00] <Arminius> I tried an several other channels, but nobody really knew
[22:01] <Arminius> on #kwin V13 told me <V13> that kwin is your window manager but instead, compiz is run <V13> most probably /usr/bin/kwin is either a link to compiz or a shell script <V13> ask in a #ubuntu or #kubuntu channel
[22:04] <ScorpKing> Arminius: you have gnome or kde?
[22:04] <Arminius> kde
[22:04] <Arminius> 4.2
[22:04] <Arminius> Intrepid
[22:05] <ScorpKing> hmm.. not sure about 4.2 but what's in ~/.kde/Autostart/ ?
[22:05] <pgc> alguien habla espanol??
[22:06] <Arminius> there is:
[22:06] <jamesjedimaster> !es | pgc
[22:06] <Arminius> kwin --replace.desktop
[22:06] <Arminius> and
[22:06] <Arminius> update-notifier
[22:07] <ScorpKing> Arminius: did you add kwin --replace.desktop ?
[22:07] <Arminius> I don't think so...
[22:07] <Arminius> I tried a lot of things so I'm not 100% sure :s
[22:07] <ScorpKing> Arminius: can you pastebin the output of ~/.kde/Autostart/ ?
[22:08] <Arminius> ok...
[22:08] <Arminius> how to I get the ouput on ~/.kde/Autostart/ on konsole? :$
[22:09] <ScorpKing> ls -l ~/.kde/Autostart/
[22:09] <Arminius> thanks :)
[22:09] <ScorpKing> sorry :O
[22:10] <Arminius> http://www.pastebin.ca/1394334
[22:10] <Arminius> here :)
[22:11] <ScorpKing> kwin --replace.desktop just doens't seem right for a filename. remove the kwin -- and leave only replace.desktop
[22:12] <ScorpKing> Arminius: also, what's in that file
[22:12] <ScorpKing> ?
[22:12] <Arminius> sec
[22:12] <Arminius> [Desktop Entry]
[22:12] <Arminius> Icon=unknown
[22:12] <Arminius> Name=kwin%20--replace
[22:12] <Arminius> Type=Link
[22:12] <Arminius> URL[$e]=kwin%20--replace
[22:13] <Arminius> I get that in the .desktop file
[22:13] <ScorpKing> that's wrong as far as i know
[22:13] <Arminius> and the update-notifier looks empty to me...
[22:13] <ScorpKing> Arminius: remove that file and create a new one caller kwin-replace.sh
[22:14] <Arminius> ok
[22:14] <Arminius> by remove you mean delete or just copy it somewhere else?
[22:14] <ScorpKing> inside that put - #!/bin/sh kwin --replace
[22:14] <ScorpKing> on seperate lines though
[22:15] <Arminius> first line #! second line /bin/sh kwin --replace
[22:15] <ScorpKing>  kwin --replace on the second line
[22:15] <Arminius> ok
[22:15] <ScorpKing> and #!/bin/sh on the first
[22:16] <Arminius> done
[22:16] <Arminius> so now relog and test?
[22:16] <ScorpKing> yep
[22:16] <Arminius> ok brb ;)
[22:19] <Arminius> ok relogged but still the same problem :s
[22:19] <Arminius> which isn't normal
[22:20] <ScorpKing> hmm..
[22:20] <Arminius> because it should run that script at startup an replace compiz with kwin :s
[22:20] <Arminius> I mean it look foolproof to me :s
[22:20] <Dragnslcr> Arminius- are you trying to disable compiz?
[22:20] <ScorpKing> does kde4 not have a place where you can disable compiz effects or is it something you installed later?
[22:21] <rmrfslash> To upgrade to RC1, should I just run apt-get upgrade?
[22:21] <rmrfslash> If I'm running 9.04b?
[22:21] <Arminius> Dragnslcr -> yes, because it's causing the top-bar to not appear
[22:21] <Dragnslcr> rmrfslash- should be, yeah
[22:21] <rmrfslash> cool
[22:21] <rmrfslash> Will this fix all of my problems forever?
[22:21] <Arminius> ScorpKing I don't know... I desinstalled compiz with Adept
[22:21] <Dragnslcr> Arminius- look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
[22:21] <rmrfslash> just looks like a bunch of VLC updates :-/
[22:21] <Arminius> so I don't understand why it's even working
[22:22] <Dragnslcr> See if there's a compiz script in that directory
[22:22] <Arminius> ok
[22:22] <rmrfslash> libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, mesa-common, etc.
[22:22] <ScorpKing> thanks Dragnslcr
[22:22] <Arminius> ah yes there is
[22:22]  * ScorpKing sends a dragon Dragnslcr's way..
[22:23] <Arminius> 25enable-compiz
[22:23] <Molotov> bonsoir tout le monde
[22:23] <Dragnslcr> I had the same problem
[22:23] <Arminius> hehe ScorpKing, you were getting desperate too ;)
[22:23] <Dragnslcr> I wrote down the file name for anyone else that ran into it
[22:23] <Arminius> thats great
[22:23] <Arminius> thanks a lot :D
[22:23] <Arminius> you are my saviour ;)
[22:24]  * ScorpKing is still on 8.04..
[22:24] <Arminius> shall I delete the file?
[22:24] <rmrfslash> Is anyone elses splash screen and fade in on 9.04 all weird lookin?
[22:24] <ScorpKing> rather move it
[22:24] <Arminius> ok
[22:24] <rmrfslash> splash screen gets hacked to pieces and then the fade-to-desktop is choppy
[22:24] <rmrfslash> or is this just me
[22:24] <Arminius> apperently I can't cut it, just copy it :s
[22:25] <Arminius> shall I start Dolphin in sudo mode?
[22:25] <ScorpKing> yep
[22:25] <rmrfslash> all upgraded
[22:25] <rmrfslash> maybe I should reboot this sucker
[22:26] <Arminius> what the??? :o access denied to the file!
[22:26] <Arminius> even in sudo mode?
[22:26] <Arminius> that's impossible!
[22:27] <Arminius> isn't it?
[22:27] <Dragnslcr> Arminius- hold on, found a better way
[22:27] <Arminius> ok
[22:28] <Arminius> via konsole?
[22:28] <ScorpKing> nite everyone
[22:28] <Dragnslcr> Arminius- go to ~/.kde/share/config
[22:28] <Arminius> ~/.kde/share/config ok
[22:28] <Arminius> an?
[22:28] <Arminius> d
[22:28] <Dragnslcr> Look for the compiz file there
[22:29] <Dragnslcr> Should be a file compizasWM
[22:29] <Arminius> yeah
[22:29] <rmrfslash> Yeah, that upgrade did nothing.
[22:29] <Arminius> you are a mentallist ;)
[22:30] <Arminius> ok pasted the file away
[22:30] <Arminius> should I relog myself?
[22:31] <Dragnslcr> Arminius- yeah, after you rename or delete that file, logout and log back in
[22:31] <Arminius> ok
[22:31] <Arminius> brb
[22:35] <Arminius> didn't work :'(
[22:35] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[22:35] <Arminius> also that file I moved only contained one line: custom
[22:36] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[22:36] <Dragnslcr> Open /etc/X11/Xsession.d/25enable-compiz in a text editor
[22:36] <Arminius> ok
[22:36] <Arminius> in sudo mode?!?
[22:36] <Dragnslcr> if [ -e $HOME/.kde/share/config/compizasWM ] && [ -e /usr/bin/compiz ] ; then export KDEWM="/usr/bin/compiz"
[22:37] <Dragnslcr> Does it look something like that?
[22:37] <Arminius> sec
[22:37] <Arminius> if [ -e $HOME/.kde/share/config/compizasWM ] && [ -e /usr/bin/compiz ] ; then
[22:37] <Arminius> 	export KDEWM="/usr/bin/compiz"
[22:37] <Arminius> fi
[22:37] <Arminius> that's what it contains
[22:37] <Arminius> copy/past ;)
[22:38] <Arminius> e
[22:39] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[22:40] <Arminius> does it make any sense?
[22:41] <Dragnslcr> Not yet
[22:42] <Dragnslcr> You have konsole open?
[22:42] <Arminius> yes
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> All right, let's try this
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> cd ~
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> To go to your home directory
[22:43] <Arminius> ok
[22:43] <Arminius> and then?
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> cp /etc/X11/Xsession.d/25enable-compiz ./compiz_test
[22:43] <Arminius> done
[22:44] <Dragnslcr> nano compiz_test
[22:44] <Dragnslcr> Then replace the export... line with: echo "true"
[22:45] <Dragnslcr> And put echo "false" on a new line after the fi, just for fun
[22:45] <Arminius> lol :p
[22:45] <Arminius> and how do I edit it?
[22:45]  * PhilRod didn't know about /etc/X11/Xsession.d - definitely one to be aware of
[22:45] <Dragnslcr> Edit the file?
[22:46] <Arminius> yeah... in the konsole
[22:46] <Arminius> it opened it inn nano
[22:46] <Arminius> but how do I edit it?
[22:46] <Dragnslcr> PhilRod- yeah, that's what caught me when I upgraded to KDE4
[22:46] <Dragnslcr> Arminius- just by typing. nano isn't like vi
[22:46] <Arminius> ok
[22:47] <Ciros> nano is a pretty  fun editor
[22:47] <squier> hi all
[22:47] <squier>  i new user kubunt;)
[22:47] <Arminius> ok I changed that
[22:48] <Arminius> how do I save and exit?
[22:48] <Dragnslcr> Arminius- ctrl-o to save
[22:48] <Arminius> welcome to kubuntu squier
[22:48] <Ciros> ctrl+x to exit
[22:48] <Arminius> ok
[22:48] <Arminius> and now relog?
[22:48] <Dragnslcr> Arminius- nano shows common shortcuts at the bottom. Save is called "WriteOut"
[22:48] <Dragnslcr> bash compiz_test
[22:49] <Arminius> ok
[22:49] <Dragnslcr> What does that print?
[22:49] <Arminius> false
[22:49] <Dragnslcr> Which is exactly what it should do
[22:49] <Dragnslcr> Weird
[22:49] <Arminius> isn't that... good? xD
[22:49] <Dragnslcr> Heh, not really
[22:50] <Dragnslcr> Because it means the Xsession.d script shouldn't be changing KDEWM
[22:51] <Arminius> did you get the same result as I when you had the problem?
[22:51] <Dragnslcr> No, I think just removing the compizasWM file worked for me
[22:52] <Dragnslcr> echo $KDEWM
[22:52] <Dragnslcr> What does that print?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:53] <Arminius> sec
[22:53] <Arminius> kwin
[22:53] <Ciros> mine doesnt print out anything lol
[22:53] <Dragnslcr> So I don't think compiz is even running
[22:55] <Dragnslcr> ps aux | grep compiz
[22:55] <Dragnslcr> See if that shows anything
[22:55] <Arminius> but thats strange :s PhilRod hadn't we done tests saying that compiz was running? :s?
[22:55] <Arminius> ok
[22:55] <Arminius> sec
[22:56] <Arminius> 1000      6176  0.0  0.0   1844   548 ?        S    23:33   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/compiz --sm-client-id 10a8432d50000123982853900000100290026
[22:56] <Arminius> 1000      6228  2.0  1.4  56436 29164 ?        SL   23:33   0:26 /usr/bin/compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --replace --loose-binding --sm-client-id 10a8432d50000123982853900000100290026core ccp
[22:56] <Arminius> 1000      8119  0.0  0.0   3272   812 pts/3    S+   23:55   0:00 grep compiz
[22:56] <Arminius> that's the copy/paste result ;)
[22:56] <Dragnslcr> Bah, so what's starting it
[22:57] <Dragnslcr> Do you have anything in ~/.kde/Autostart/ that might be running it?
[22:57] <Arminius> checking
[22:58] <Arminius> I got 3 files
[22:58] <Arminius> kwin-replace.sh
[22:58] <Arminius> which I put in after V13 on the Kwin channel suggested me to
[22:58] <Dragnslcr> That might be it. What's in that file?
[22:59] <Arminius> #!/bin/sh
[22:59] <Arminius> kwin --replace
[22:59] <Arminius> that should replace compiz with kwin at startup should'nt it?
[22:59] <Dragnslcr> In theory, but if it isn't working, there's no point in having it there
[23:00] <Arminius> it's not fixing the problem, just solving it...
[23:00] <Arminius> ok
[23:00] <Arminius> there was the backup file for that .sh
[23:00] <Arminius> and there is another file
[23:00] <Arminius> update-notifier
[23:02] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[23:03] <Arminius> I don't undestand why that shell script isn't doing it's job, I mean it's like math, 1+1=2, no room for error!
[23:05] <Dragnslcr> What happens if you run "kwin --replace &" manually?
[23:06] <allan_> kjj
[23:06] <Arminius> I'll get [1] 9354 and I will start fine
[23:06] <Arminius> bug solved... until I restart
[23:06] <Arminius> ;)
[23:06] <Arminius> I tried that
[23:06] <Arminius> was the first thing I tried ^^
[23:07] <Dragnslcr> So something must be starting compiz
[23:08] <Arminius> and after the autostart
[23:08] <Arminius> because the shell is "overruled" in some way
[23:08] <Arminius> a virus maybe? :p
[23:09] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[23:10] <Arminius> sorry but got2go now...
[23:11] <Byron> Hello all
[23:11] <Byron> I'm on the Acer Aspire One netbook and am wondering how to disable suspend to RAM and suspend to Disk.
[23:12] <Arminius> that in power management I think byron
[23:12] <Arminius> thanks a lot for your help everyone!
[23:14] <Byron> Arminius: I removed it, but when I close my lid, it suspends it and I have to reboot the computer so that I can use it again. The screen flickers as the mouse moves, otherwise it's a black screen.
[23:14] <Byron> !register
[23:15] <Arminius> sorry Byron, then I have no idea... :s
[23:15] <Byron> Arminius: No worries. I would have given someone else the same answer.
[23:19] <alfredo> -------------------------hola
[23:20] <LjL> !es
[23:23] <wir> Hello all
[23:27] <Sonnentae> I Have a disk in my machine I never knew about and I am trying to mount it or format it but I can't seem to, what can I do?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Sonnentae: run sudo fdisk -l  to make sure its seen
[23:31] <Sonnentae> ActionParsnip: It shows up as not having a valid partition table?
[23:31] <Sonnentae> Would that indicate that it is empty?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Sonnentae: ok thats fine, do you expect any data on it?
[23:32] <Sonnentae> not sure, It's a work box so if there is don't want to delete it, can I scan it somehow?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Sonnentae: you could use foremost to extract the data from the partition
[23:35] <Sonnentae> Am trying cheers
[23:36] <Sonnentae> ActionParsnip how could I format it if there is no data?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> Sonnentae: i'd recommend gparted
[23:37] <Sonnentae> sweet, legend!
[23:37] <Mamarok> !info mplayer
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> Sonnentae: you can then partition it and format it
[23:39] <irishman> Hi everyone
[23:39] <Sonnentae> ActionParsnip do you know what command I should run in foremost to get a quick scan going?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Sonnentae: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Foremost
[23:47] <venik> why can't I open documents on a SAMBA drive with OpenOffice?  Other programs can use files form that same folder, but not OpenOffice writer or spreadsheet
[23:48] <venik> form--> from