[11:15] <SiDi> hi
[12:27] <kwwii> wow, I just read a buttload of emails
[12:27] <kwwii> and in some cases even replied ;)
[12:28] <SiDi> thats chaotic, kwwii
[12:28] <SiDi> then people will reply to your replies
[12:28] <SiDi> and you'll have to read their replies
[12:36] <kwwii> :p
[12:36] <savvas> a buttload eh :p
[12:36] <savvas> now how huge can that be :)
[12:37] <kwwii> you don't want to know :)
[12:37] <savvas> hahah
[12:39]  * kwwii takes his son to a friends house and gets lunch, bbl
[12:41] <thorwil> hola!
[12:41] <SiDi> Wenas thorwil w
[12:41] <SiDi> que tal ?
[12:42] <thorwil> all good :)
[12:43]  * thorwil learns about wenas
[12:44] <SiDi> Wenas=  Buenas = Buenos dias
[12:44] <SiDi> Sometimes you'll hear "nas", too
[12:44] <thorwil> heh, how lazy
[12:44] <SiDi> :)
[12:45] <SiDi> well, if you compare buenos dias to hi, thats understandable :O
[12:45] <thorwil> lol
[13:52] <robsta> hey thorwil
[13:52] <thorwil> hi robsta
[13:53] <thorwil> robsta: started yesterday with dead simple widgets for the template
[13:53] <robsta> thorwil: woo, lessee!
[13:53] <robsta> is it in your repo?
[13:53] <thorwil> robsta: nah, wait a bit until there really is something to see ,)
[13:55] <thorwil> robsta: are you already back in the code?
[13:56] <robsta> somewhat, will patch where needed once we're on a theme
[13:58] <robsta> a friend of mine proudly showed me his desktop after upgrading to beta, is new wave default now?
[13:58] <thorwil> might be possible to get the stuff you see in the widget factory done on the weekend
[13:59] <robsta> cool
[13:59] <thorwil> robsta: no, not default afaik
[13:59] <robsta> we can always add states later
[14:01] <thorwil> i already have per up/down button hover for spinners. that being in the template doesn't mean it has to be used imediately, of course
[14:02] <thorwil> robsta: it seems dilomo (Anton) is hot an animations :)
[14:03]  * thorwil waves to kwwii 
[14:03] <robsta> well yes, but let's focus on gtk2 for now
[14:04] <robsta> maybe we can achieve fading transitions and struff thru hacks, but gtk3 is in flux
[14:04] <thorwil> robsta: you don't happen to have an idea how we could speed up the plate creation for the template?
[14:05] <robsta> thorwil: plate creation has not been on my plate so far
[14:05] <thorwil> heh
[14:05] <robsta> what's the problem?
[14:05]  * robsta is absolutely inept in inkscape
[14:06] <thorwil> it's just a lot of fiddling, creating all the plates and especially naming them
[14:06] <robsta> just create them, i'll do the names
[14:06] <thorwil> ok, cool :D
[14:18]  * thorwil -> coffee
[14:18] <kwwii> hey robsta, nice to see you around :)
[14:19] <robsta> hi Kenneth, how's things?
[14:19] <kwwii> robsta: good, now that jaunty is mainly out of the way ;)
[14:19] <kwwii> robsta: and yourself?
[14:20] <robsta> no complaints, $day_job is keeping me real
[14:23] <kwwii> hehe, works always a pain but that's why they pay you money to do it
[14:26] <robsta> kwwii: i hear bratsche is with you now, good catch :)
[14:27] <robsta> actually, i heard it from him
[14:31] <kwwii> robsta: yeah, that guy is crazy smart
[14:32] <kwwii> at first I wondered who he was, then I worked on a couple of things with him and I was really impressed
[14:32] <robsta> .. and tall!!
[14:32] <robsta> :P
[14:32] <kwwii> hehe, and going bald!
[14:32] <robsta> who isn't?
[14:32] <kwwii> I think he had to do that to fit in with the team
[16:38] <thorwil> kwwii: seen my mail to Geraldine Coutts where I CCed you?
[16:40] <kwwii> thorwil: don't think so, let me check
[16:58] <kwwii> thorwil: answered, thanks for pointing that out, I had indeed missed it
[16:59] <thorwil> kwwii: no problem, today she asked me about your opinion ...
[16:59] <kwwii> well, now she has it ;)
[17:00] <thorwil> kwwii: what is it, or did you CC me as well?
[17:00] <kwwii> thorwil: you should receive a copy as well
[17:00] <thorwil> ah, ok
[17:01]  * kwwii has a conf call now...bbl
[20:36] <dashua> SiDi: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/12611/screenshot_002_g1IKqD.png ; http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/12612/screenshot_003_2faOM1.png
[20:37] <dashua> WIP
[20:37] <SiDi> 404 :(
[20:37] <SiDi> ah, got it now
[20:38] <SiDi> Hm, i think the shadow in the toolbars is too pronounced
[20:38] <dashua> Yeah, too puffy?
[20:38] <SiDi> It almost looks like we're looking at a cylinder
[20:39] <dashua> I'm trying to get a dimensional look to it
[20:39] <dashua> Maybe if I take it off the menubar, it won't be as obtrusive?
[20:39] <SiDi> Something else, for the app menu, what about using a darker brown for the hovered menu item instead of lighter one ?
[20:40] <dashua> Ok, sure
[20:40] <SiDi> At the moment i have the feeling there are too many different colours when you're watching the menu (toolbar's color, toolbar hovered menu, normal menu item + hovered menu item)
[20:41] <dashua> I can make it darker, let me test some colors
[20:41] <SiDi> Sure
[20:44] <SiDi> I think you should go for flat toolbars, with the metacity's colour, and stylise the buttons of the toolbar instead. it'd put the metacity's buttons more in the foreground
[20:46] <dashua> Ok cool, I'll hack around on it some more :)
[21:53] <mrooney> hello, I am on the ubuntu-art mailing list and have been replying for a while, and I just realized none of my replies have made it through :/
[21:53] <mrooney> how can I debug what is going wrong?
[21:54] <SiDi> mrooney, what mail client are you using ?
[21:54] <mrooney> I participate in other ubuntu-related lists fine
[21:54] <mrooney> gmail
[21:54] <SiDi> and you use the same sending address than the one withh which you registered ? :/
[21:55] <mrooney> SiDi: no it goes to a forward address which forwards to my gmail
[21:56] <mrooney> is that the issue? with other lists it doesn't seem to be a problem or has to go through moderation
[21:57] <SiDi> Well, what about trying sending an email directly ? At least you'll be fixed
[21:57]  * SiDi just remembered where he saw your name before : you're the wxBanker dev :P
[22:07] <SiDi> mrooney, mind if i pm you about wxBanker ?
[22:07] <mrooney> SiDi: go for it :)