[01:24] hello [01:24] I've been banned for a little while from #ubuntu [01:25] I'm here to ask to be un-banned [01:25] people have good and bad days on irc [01:25] hi. [01:25] true [01:25] maybe today is a good day to say "water under the bridge" [01:25] let me review your situation a little [01:26] are you re-reading log files? [01:26] or do you keep files on banned users like the FBI? [01:27] the latter. [01:27] and the FBI would say about you, "uuuh oh". [01:27] thanks [01:27] I've earned that distinction [01:30] I just want to install ffmpeg on my ubuntu 8.10 server [01:31] i don't think i used any bad language [01:31] ... wait [01:31] but I did try to lighten up the mood with some witty remarks [01:31] you're basically saying that you'll probably be a troll again [01:31] but RIGHT NOW, you need some Ubuntu help? [01:32] well, I don't plan on trolling [01:32] I was sincere [01:32] I really was taken aback by the name #ubuntu-offtopic, for example [01:33] balzac: ok so during this time, you have had time to toroughly check our guidelines, the coc, and everything else in /msg ubottu etiquette? [01:33] +LjL, I'm all about the ubuntu [01:34] well, I haven't exactly dried my eyeballs on all that [01:35] I've been on IRC for many years and I'm pretty familiar with the etiquette of IRC and Freenode [01:35] I have my own channel too [01:35] I'm over 30 [01:35] are you over 30? [01:36] that's not relevant [01:36] what does age have to do with it? [01:36] sure it is [01:36] balzac: no it is not [01:36] balzac: i will ask you to come back when you have very, very carefully read [01:36] what if you guys are in your 20s? [01:36] !guidelines [01:36] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [01:36] !coc [01:36] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [01:36] !etiquette [01:36] Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu ): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !Caps, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense... [01:36] please come back then and we will discuss it again [01:36] balzac: what if we are? [01:36] wait [01:36] see you [01:37] balzac: our ages are not relevant. [01:37] i'll read it right now [01:37] the COC [01:37] balzac: please leave the channel while you read it all, as we prefer people not to idle here. [01:37] come back when you're finished. [01:38] @mark #ubuntu-ops balzac Bah, I don't think he's any less of a troll than before. [01:38] The operation succeeded. [01:38] agreed [01:38] ++ [01:39] oh god i want a cigarette [01:39] I really want to know what age has to do with it [01:39] LjL: no you don't [01:39] the "troll has left -ops" trigger... [01:39] you really want to save the money to put towards a bigger and better computer [01:39] alright, I'm a bit of a speed-reader [01:40] that's some very basic and familiar stuff [01:40] 1 min 35 seconds to read all of that? [01:40] I read a lot, every day. [01:41] i was actually googling "fastest reading speed record" [01:41] but he didn't even give me THAT much time [01:41] wait a second now [01:41] balzac: no [01:41] let's not be hasty [01:41] balzac: your ban will not be lifted at this time [01:41] balzac: come back here in six months [01:41] this is pure authoritarianism [01:42] balzac: if you have no further questions for us, please leave. [01:42] LjL: this is not the spirit of Ubuntu by any stretch of the imagination [01:42] this is #HumorlessIRCMallCops [02:01] next time i will check twice, and then again, whether i've typed /mode #ubuntu d or /mode #ubuntu b [02:01] gah [02:01] if only konvi's scrolling were a BIT faster [02:23] balzac in -ot [02:40] [03:39:48] I'll be taking this up with community council [02:40] [03:40:08] I'll expect to deal with you as a person, with our real given names [02:42] balzac: my given real name is Lorenzo Lucchini. My email address is ljl@ubuntu.com. Please feel free to take this issue up with whomever you feel appropriate, however I should inform you that a formal appeal process for Ubuntu IRC channels is described on the link you can see in this channel's /TOPIC (search for "appeal") [02:42] hello [02:42] My given name is Paul Gaskin [02:42] Now doesn't it seem a tiny bit silly, telling me that a minute and thirty five seconds wasn't enough time spent pondering the COC? [02:43] paulgaskin@gmail.com [02:43] I did not need to know it, but thanks for sharing. I regret to inform you that, from now on, I will not be discussing the matter personally as you expressed a wish to. [02:43] So, please follow the appeal procedure or take whatever steps you feel appropriate. However, from my stance, your ban stays permanentely. [02:43] Bye. [02:43] I wasn't planning on leaving so soon after you invited me [02:44] There's no need to recede into bureaucratic process [02:45] I'm just too old to be scolded and told to read something. It may well have been appropriate for a teenager who had a real problem. [02:45] But I'm way too old for it. [02:46] FYI, I have multiple freenode sessions because I work from the office, home, a friend's house. [02:46] and for that matter, I'm of the opinion that Freenode should err on the side of tolerance, not cracking down on those who break rules [02:47] two concurrent logins under two names should not be considered to be like robbing a bank [02:47] especially when the guy who does it makes no effort to decieve [02:48] I am definitely not always agreeable, but I am pretty well committed to Ubuntu professionally [02:48] maybe this kind of silliness wouldn't happen if we were chatting under our given names in the first place === balzac is now known as paulgaskin [02:50] It was too long to keep me banned [02:51] I'm a guy who will actually try to deploy ubuntu in enterprise production environments [02:51] My success on the job depends on my access to IRC support [02:51] !ops | Please deal with paulgaskin [02:51] Please deal with paulgaskin: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [02:51] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (Please deal with paulgaskin) [02:52] dealing isn't neccessary, why not just be personable? [02:53] so I whined about an audio driver, a channel name - it's not something which never happens on IRC [02:54] And I regularly share my personal identity with people on freenode, because I'm not going anywhere. [02:55] weird then that you don't have your real name in the designated "Real Name" field. [02:55] what, my freenode registration? [02:55] now, i suggest that you ask the people in this channel something relevant to the topic of it [02:56] that was years ago and I haven't touched it since originally registering my nick [02:56] well, can I be allowed access under my registered nick, "balzac" in #ubuntu ? [02:56] I wanted to get a package installed and I was working in front of a client [02:57] not if i can prevent it [02:57] i don't get it [02:57] you're on the @ubuntu.com side of the equation [02:57] look, you said you'd take it up with the community council [02:57] just take it up with the community council [02:57] go away [02:57] why should you care so much about my attitude? [02:57] you're too arrogant to join #ubuntu [02:58] well, I don't need to if you're willing to talk about it [02:58] i am not [02:58] ubuntu is the most popular distro [02:58] How can I be too arrogant to be a part of something so big? [02:59] paulgaskin: when some other op who is willing to discuss the matter with you is around, they will. bye. === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha [03:55] Alright. jamesjr in -ot is pressing his luck, if anyone with access has a moment [03:58] Flannel: he left on his own. [03:58] Aye [04:04] Oh... *that* guy [04:09] hrm, +z? [04:10] What? [04:10] Trying to remember what +z is [04:10] Isn't that if a person is muted or the channel is +m ops still see all messages? [04:11] 7yeah [04:41] I got a quick question - Is irc.ubuntu.com down? I have been trying to connect to it using pidgin all night? [04:55] idling != waiting for response. [08:18] In ubottu, aaditya said: bitch is CoC [08:18] In ubottu, aaditya said: bitch is Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [08:19] In ubottu, aaditya said: SOB is Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [09:14] * Myrtti peeks out from under the couch [09:14] is the storm over? [09:15] guys, see #ubuntu [09:15] ikonia→ [2009-04-16 10:14:34 CEST] < DeosamoX> Any good porn? [09:15] [2009-04-16 10:14:34 CEST] -!- salimane [n=salimane@218.106.184.52] has quit ["Leaving"] [09:15] [2009-04-16 10:14:37 CEST] -!- phh45 [n=salsakon@a85-156-224-4.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [09:16] [2009-04-16 10:14:43 CEST] < DeosamoX> any good porn website? [09:16] MenZa: you know you can use !ops... [09:16] yup, he's gone [09:16] Myrtti: beat me to it [09:16] Yes, but I *hate* !ops [09:16] It makes me feel dirty and like I've done something wrong. :( [09:16] anyway, fanks [09:16] \o [09:16] MenZa: but it would have been so much *faster* [09:16] meh [09:46] In #ubuntu+1, BUGabundo said: !mainline is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [09:55] In #ubuntu, Hassanakevazir said: !stopgdm is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [09:56] In ubottu, Hassanakevazir said: !stopgdm is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [09:58] don't think we need a factoid for that [10:40] oh crap. Duncan switched the mac downstairs off for the thunderstorm and now it's still off - no music :-( [10:41] * Myrtti isn't a happy camper [10:43] turn it on ? [10:49] ikonia: but it's a mac :-/ (and not mine either, so I don't particularly want to touch it) [10:50] it will blind you with shiny! [10:50] JEBUS what has happened to sanakirja.org [10:50] O_____________________O [10:50] * Myrtti is blinded [10:51] :-0 [10:52] ah there's an option to switch back to the real sanakirja.org [10:54] hi [10:54] I fed ubottu a factoid. it wasn't accepted [10:54] it was " !mainline is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/" [10:55] BUGabundo: you have to convince us that that factoid is needed [10:55] hi Myrtti [10:56] ofter users ask for more info on mainline kernel images on +1 [10:56] do we want users switching kernels? [10:56] +1 is for testing the release [10:57] grrrrr [10:58] information is never a bad thing [10:58] * Myrtti thinks about one third of the factoids are useless [10:59] Myrtti: but make our life easier [10:59] less copy paste [10:59] at least that what I use them for [11:00] YAY! [11:01] what is this, bot flip day? [11:01] ehe [11:01] * BUGabundo is not to blame [11:03] BUGabundo: it's very rare I see people asking about mainline info and suggesting people go to PPA's doesn't seem a good deal - more so on development platforms, if they are that capable they know how to get the info [11:03] Not if they're trying to see if it's a problem in the Ubuntu kernel or the mainline one.... [11:04] jpds: thats very valid, but that doesn't come up that often [11:04] I guess I'll keep poking cwillu for the link.. thanks and sorry for the noise [11:04] just make a note of the link ???? [11:05] I don't understand a thing... [11:05] I guess I'll just hassle a user as a way of getting my factoid in [11:05] just book mark it [11:07] grr... intel in jaunty sucks [11:07] sometimes I hate Finnish language [11:08] "Automatically reload files when changes are detected on disk" translate that to Finnish >____< [11:10] rofl [11:12] it does not make any sense >___< [11:13] android: are you on a new phone by any chance ;) [11:13] probably not [11:20] ikonia: no [11:20] I just happened to see this nick could be dropped... so I grabb ed it :D [11:21] android: are you planning to migrate to it? [11:21] ah [11:21] Myrtti: considering it... seeing how it feels :d [11:21] I like juiss01 better [11:22] jussi01 has definitely grown on you [11:22] hehe [11:22] * Myrtti shrugs === android is now known as jussi01 [11:22] happy? [11:23] I'm happy if you're happy, just being vocal on my thoughts, I wouldn't have any problems with adjusting my mental image to android [11:23] oh and ikonia btw : http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20090415-212514-unboxing_pix.tar.gz [11:25] * Myrtti drools [11:25] hehe [11:26] Myrtti: and pink is 50¤ cheaper... [11:26] jussi01: shut up... I just paid my cc bill and gave 200€ to Duncan, have to wait atleast on the 20th [11:26] speaking of which [11:26] * Myrtti prods jussi01 [11:27] YOU, MISTER! [11:28] downloading.... [11:36] hello [11:37] when i will be unbaned? [11:42] cristi: which channel and by whom were you banned? [11:44] #ubuntu and ikonia was the op and bazhang [11:48] cristi, why would we let you in? all you do is ask how to ruin your system, and gloat about ban dodging [11:48] because i was a fool and now im smart [11:49] can i say sorry? [11:50] @btlogin [11:50] An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [11:50] :0 [11:50] @login [11:50] The operation succeeded. [11:50] @btlogin [11:50] An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [11:50] bazhang are you online? [11:51] bazhang, search the nick in the bt, there's a heap of him ban evading and asking how to ruin computer systems [11:51] oh yes he is right bazhang [11:51] i want to know why we would let someone like that in. [11:51] elky_, yep, as dingding, cristi, crismusg and several others iirc [11:51] eky_ is right [11:51] unable to btlogin right now though [11:52] bazhang:i am not alowed to change my nick [11:52] ? [11:52] cristi, you have done so many times and ban evaded, please do not do so again. [11:52] @btlogin [11:52] An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [11:52] i can asure that i wount do it again [11:52] nonsense [11:53] you said that before and we caught you doing it [11:53] when? [11:53] cristi, how about using other channels then #ubuntu for linux help [11:53] cristi: using your many other nick names [11:53] what other chanels? [11:53] cristi: the price of being a known liar means it takes time to prove / gain trust back [11:54] cristi: read the freenode website, we are not a yellow pages of channels [11:54] plus I don't feel I'd recommend you to any other channels with your behaviour [11:54] ikonia:please do not interfere in my conversation with bazhang [11:54] http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist cristi search here [11:54] i did [11:54] and every thing is oftopic [11:54] cristi: no problem, I'll leave the bans I put in place on you as active then [11:55] i asked but nobody answered to my questions [11:55] ikonia:what do yoou mean with that? [11:55] cristi, if you have trouble interacting with others and staying on topic etc, you may wish to use the ubuntuforums.org for linux help then. [11:55] exactly what I said, I'll leave the bans I put in place on you as active [11:56] cristi, you have shown that you are not ready to rejoin #ubuntu at this time. [11:56] ikonia:you are joking because you are so mad on me [11:56] no [11:56] I'm not mad, and I'm not joking [11:56] he doesnt ask for help for things we allow advice on anyway [11:56] ikonia:you are so kinf? [11:56] ikonia:you are so kind? [11:56] we are certainly not going to let people help him damage things [11:57] cristi, there is nothing else to discuss right now. [11:57] ikonia says that he wil let the bans [11:57] no, I said I won't remove the bans [11:57] apologies if I didn't make that clear [11:58] cristi, there are so many bans that it is not just one person setting them. [11:58] apologies accepted [11:58] so i will never talk on #ubuntu and #kubuntu [11:58] ? [11:58] cristi, they will remain in place. [11:58] ? [11:59] cristi, you will not allowed back in; the bans will stay. [11:59] forever? [11:59] until the people who put the bans in place have confidence you can behave [12:00] cristi, you have not shown good faith with so much dishonesty and ban evasion. [12:00] ikonia:i want to get your confidence [12:00] cristi, there is #ubuntu-md for moldavian help [12:01] you belive i can get help with only five members? [12:01] cristi: I'm sorry to be harsh but that is the price you have to pay because of your persistant unacceptable behaviour [12:01] cristi: maybe the lack of help you can get will make you consider how you behave in future [12:02] ok what is my unacceptable behaviour right now in this second? [12:02] cristi, insisting that the bans be lifted. [12:02] cristi, the inability to accept consequences. [12:03] cristi, please do so helping in your loco channel and build up trust. [12:03] you think i cant accept ok watch me [12:03] lol [12:04] yeah, that will show me [12:04] storming off in a tantrum [12:04] crisis averted in -ru [12:04] what was going on in -ru ? [12:04] bazhang, they all kissed and made up? [12:04] long absent founder (approx 2 years) tried to take over and remove all those who had built it back up from trollpit [12:05] whoa [12:05] bazhang, the founder? who is that? [12:05] elky_, not so much, they did reverse the tables and get him ousted though [12:06] elky_, it was three : skyrider, aim1159 and garfeild [12:06] bazhang, i've discussed the revolting behaviour with aim previously, a few months after the first attack on u-w [12:06] those are/were the founders? [12:06] the first two tried to get rid of the 3rd without any discussion [12:07] and then a4tech (who put in ubottu clone --ubuntuhelp) to stabilize/modernize the channel [12:12] intresting read at #ubuntu-irc [12:16] Myrtti: which part ? [12:17] /last aim1159 [12:18] bazhang: looks like you've made a real big impact on -ru [12:18] ikonia, safe to remove *my* cristi bans? I think p i c i 's one is pretty foolproof [12:18] bazhang: I was just going through mine too, the pici master ban got her covered [12:19] ikonia, okay thanks [12:19] @btlogin [12:19] An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [12:19] oh dear [12:19] hrm... WOnder whats goin gon there [12:19] an error has occured, can you not read ? [12:20] tsimpson: you around? [12:20] hehe [12:20] /arn ikonia evil... [12:20] :P [12:20] ;) [12:20] jussi01: thanks for posting your xp key btw ;) [12:20] jussi01: please contact the bot's administrator [12:20] ha ha ha === vorian is now known as stevie [12:20] vorian has decloaked, attak ! [12:21] attack [12:21] popey: ... [12:21] :o [12:21] 15042009149.jpg [12:21] popey: the good thing is I have like 5 of them from different pc's and still dont use any of them... [12:21] BY2CY-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX... [12:22] :) [12:22] popey: I know [12:22] ha ha ha [12:22] :) [12:22] * ikonia torrents the key [12:22] popey: thanks for making sure everyone knows now... [12:22] ha ha ha [12:22] falling off chair [12:22] oh I did better than that [12:22] I mirroroed it [12:22] attention emma/other log readers ^^^ jussi01's key [12:23] [12:23] you're mean [12:24] * ikonia apologises [12:24] meh... if they have nt got it by now, its gone [12:24] * ikonia mirrors it [12:24] http://ikoniamirror.com/jussi-key.jpg [12:25] http://ikoniamirror.com/jussi-naked-dancing.jpg [12:25] hands up - who looked [12:25] ikonia: did you have to post that one? :P [12:25] rofl [12:25] I see many finish ip's hitting the web server now [12:26] Myrtti: topyli .....is that you ..... ;) [12:26] aww i was hoping the naked dancing one existed [12:26] * elky pouts off [12:26] i think Myrtti took those pics [12:26] elky: §!! [12:26] * ikonia gets out gimp [12:27] oh dear... [12:27] elky: I'm sure something can be arranged [12:27] give me 15 minutes [12:27] and this is supposed to be the ops channel... [12:27] sorry sorry [12:27] we really need an -ops-chat channel... [12:27] guilty - my faul [12:27] fault, I started it [12:28] doesnt need to be part of the u namespace at all [12:29] ##paddedroom-for-ops-of-ubuntu [12:29] elky: well... get creating then ;) [12:29] :-P [12:29] :P [12:29] jussi01, i already have one, and appropriately named too [12:29] just gotta set up the invite list :P [12:30] :D [12:30] of course, bip wants to lag me [12:31] I see cristi still hasn't grasped the not changing nick thing [12:32] hmm what would be the irc equivalent for alt.sysadmin.recovery? [12:33] topyli: what OS ? [12:33] a.s.r was open for all [12:33] oh, no idea then [12:33] not a very technical group after all :) [12:35] http://www.infonet.ee/~sbernard/asr/ [12:36] don't they teach history at school anymore? [12:37] aww, nobody's looking at their PMs [12:38] In ubottu, ActionParsnip said: !winerepo is To add the WineHQ repo to install the latest release please visit http://www.winehq.org/download/deb for instruction. Thanks! [13:43] How pleasant. [13:43] ohno ubottu [13:44] ha ha [13:45] magic button pressed [13:48] welcome back bot [14:03] @login [14:03] The operation succeeded. [14:03] @btlogin [14:03] An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. === Gary is now known as evilGary [14:11] do we have a factoid for the botkeepers? this b0rkenness is annoying [14:37] !fix_the_bot_ [14:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about fix_the_bot_ [14:37]