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MatBoyjmedina: yes, I understand that00:04
MatBoythe question is why you should be able to connect to that port00:04
jmedinaMatBoy: I dont understand your question00:05
MatBoyjmedina: never mind... have to ask soe devs00:07
MatBoy*some00:07
jmedinaok.........00:07
jmedinaMatBoy: so what is the answer?00:07
MatBoyjmedina: I will let you know when they answered it :)00:09
jmedina:D00:09
jmedinaso what was the answer?00:09
jmedinaI mean the question00:09
jmedinaI use amavis-release from command line to release mails00:10
MatBoyjmedina: no, postvis admin wants to connect to it00:15
SergiiHi! I'm trying to build package in Ubuntu 8.10 x64 (php5) with mssql included, and I'm getting this message: "dpkg-buildpackage: failure: debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2" How do I troubleshoot it? I tried going back in the output, and was not able to link the command that is shown to the contents of any of the files...00:19
GargoyleUpgrading server...00:24
* Gargoyle holds breath00:24
* |dthacker| crosses fingers and toes00:24
Sergii=)00:25
GargoyleAll done00:25
|dthacker|that was quick.00:27
Gargoylenot much to typing apt-get upgrade!00:28
Gargoyle:D00:28
GargoyleFetched 53.3MB in 1s (34.6MB/s)00:28
|dthacker|Gargoyle: from what level to Jaunty?00:28
Gargoylehe he, also helps server is on a fat pipe!00:28
GargoyleNahh, just doing the udates for hardy. I realised I had not done it since I got the server!00:29
GargoyleAlthough, I wonder if there is anything special I should ask my host about - Its a virtual machine in a bigger cluster!00:30
GargoyleBit late for that now! :/00:30
GargoyleAll the sites are still up and running so I guess its time for bed.00:33
Doblehey folks - I'm trying to set up ubuntu & samba as a member of a windows AD domain, I've followed the guide on the ubuntu docs site but I can't browse to the server from a windows pc ... even though the share is set to browsable = yes and guest ok = yes, I get permission denied when I browse to \\bucket (the name of the server) ... any ideas ?01:41
twbDoble: that sounds like a better question for #samba01:43
Dobletwb: cheers will try there01:45
jmedinaDoble: what about samba logs?01:54
jmedinaok01:54
jmedinago to #samba01:54
Doblejmedina: which log should I look in? the ones for my windows PC are blank01:56
jmedinaDoble: first increase log level in smb.conf to 3 for example01:57
jmedinarestart samba01:57
jmedinaand watch to every file in /var/log/samba/01:57
Doble!paste02:01
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)02:01
Doblejmedina: I'm recieving this error in the log.winbindd-idmap - http://paste.ubuntu.com/151783/02:02
hadsI was just reading the Karmic IdeaPool page and was wondering if anyone had a link to anything about "at" being deprecated? It's hard to search for.02:02
jmedinaDoble: I think you should add a idmap uid range02:03
jmedinaand probably the same for idmap gid range02:03
Doblejmedina: is there a way to search a file using pico ?02:04
jmedinaidmap uid = 10000-2000002:04
jmedinaidmap gid = 10000-2000002:04
jmedinato your smb.conf02:04
jmedinaand before you restart samba try02:04
jmedinatestparm02:04
jmedinaif there is no error then restart samba02:05
Doblejmedina: I have     idmap uid = 50-9999999999 and     idmap gid = 50-999999999902:05
Dobleshould I change that ?02:05
jmedinaDoble: I dont use pico but I know how to search :S02:05
jmedinadid you try testparm?02:05
Dobleits alright, i worked it out02:05
jmedinaI not sure if that is a valid range02:06
jmedinaI always use that range for Samba AD members02:06
jmedinaI cant imagine that amount of users :D02:06
Dobletestparm returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/151784/02:06
jmedinatry with another range02:07
Dobleokay, one second02:08
Dobleokay, same error in the winbindd-idmap log02:10
jmedinaare you sure are new logs?02:13
jmedinadid you restart samba after change?02:13
jmedinawell I have to go02:13
jmedinacontinue in #samba02:13
drspinhi everyone -- I'm trying to figure out why our Ubuntu8.10 64-bit server locked up today06:43
drspinsyslog: console-kit-daemon[10699]: CRITICAL: cannot initialize libpolkit06:44
drspinlooks like Ubuntu8.10 needs policykit installed, but it's anything else06:45
drspinI mean, if there is anything else I missed, I would love to hear it06:49
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maxbwindow level all07:50
eagles0513875hey guys anyone have a more updated tutorial on how to setup samba as a domain controller07:52
eagles0513875the one i found on howtoforge is a lil outdated07:52
_rubenman .. self signed certs and gnutls are a complete bitch08:33
eagles0513875not sure if what im trying to do is worse08:36
eagles0513875setting up samba as a domain controller using openldap08:36
krautmoin08:54
eagles0513875hey guys08:59
_rubenseems im running into a gnutls regression :(09:17
eagles0513875:(09:18
eagles0513875i cant find the slapd.conf file09:18
eagles0513875im wondering if me upgrading to jaunty from intrepid had somethign to do with it09:18
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LyonJT_Morning all09:51
LyonJT_Can a VPN block ssh packets?09:51
_rubensure, as can firewalls09:52
LyonJT_ohh09:52
LyonJT_how can i check if the ports open?09:52
_rubenask the administrator of the vpn?09:54
LyonJT_lol sorry i just realised it was a stupid question09:56
LyonJT_is ssh tcp or udp?09:58
_rubentcp port 2209:58
LyonJT__thanks _ruben10:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #349913 in openssh (main) "sftp: cannot enter umlauts like ä, ö, ü" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34991310:17
matttanyone know if there are php-fpm packages for ubuntu anywhere?10:24
drbobbugh, i forgot the command for unsetting away status10:38
drbobbkonversation had that in a menu, and kde4's quassel doesn't :(10:39
_ruben"/away" tends to do the trick on most non-braindead clients ;)10:41
drbobbok got that10:41
drbobbanyway, has anyone found that LVM does not like sun disklabels? or is it something that I did wrong10:43
_rubendos and gpt are the only ones i use, so wouldnt know :)10:45
LyonJT__what is lvm?10:46
_rubenlogical volume management10:47
_ruben!lvm10:47
ubotturaid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID wto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto10:47
drbobbishould have said LVM2, but i suppose that's been the default version for a while anyway10:47
drbobbI had a drive that was swapped from sun sparc machine, and i didn't feel like repartitioning it10:48
drbobbbut after pvcreate seemed to succeed, other LVM commands started emitting weird warnings10:49
drbobband when I later tried to fdisk -l the drive, the label to be corrupted10:50
drbobbthe disklabel seemed to be corrupted10:50
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_rubeni'd prefer repartitioning over using 'strange' disklabels personally :)10:56
drbobbright, so i did that in the end10:58
drbobbbut how 'strange' is sun's solaris, it's been around for a few years now hasn't it10:58
drbobb(actually the first time I accessed the internets it was using sunos boxes)10:59
drbobb(that was, uh, over 15 ys ago iirc)11:00
_rubensun disklabels aren't strange for sun boxes, i do label them 'strange' for non-sun boxes :)11:00
drbobbwell i don't think the h/w itself cares much, and i heard linux runs pretty well on sun boxes too ;-)11:01
_rubentrue, but with sun boxes i meant boxes running a sun os :)11:02
drbobbi must try dual-booting an ultrasparc one of these days11:02
drbobband compare the performance on a level field11:03
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LyonJTfor mount-point what do i put11:43
LyonJTit says enter a value for a mount point11:44
abcdasdhow do i get apt-get to re-generate a config file for a program? I removed vsftpd and now I want to re-install it, but when I do, the config file isn't generated and I need it to configure the FTP!12:54
hadsRemove the package with apt-get purge12:55
hads(or aptitude)12:55
abcdasdhads: when i do that I recieve 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 57 not upgraded.12:56
drbobbsometimes dpkg-reconfigure packagename does the trick12:56
hadsaptitude will let you purge a package when it's not installed12:57
abcdasddrbobb: that doesn't seem to have worked ... the config file still doesn't exist12:57
hadsapt-get does not12:57
drbobbabcdasd: you might have to set a priority, or whatever it's called12:58
abcdasd?12:58
drbobbman dpkg-reconfigure12:59
drbobbthe `-p' option12:59
abcdasddrbobb: still no luck13:01
drbobbsorry about that13:02
drbobbi'd try a purge + reinstall13:02
abcdasddrbobb: I have tried that .. should I restart the server in between uninstall/purge/reinstall ?13:07
drbobbno, why would you need to do that13:08
abcdasdi don't know, just my old windows sysadmin instinct kicking in :) ... the purge /reinstall doesn't seem to have any effect13:08
henriquelmHello there14:05
incorrectI am trying to run a script that uses pushd and popd, i've changed the script to use bash not sh14:22
incorrectbut that didn't fix it14:22
soren"fix it"?14:24
sorenWhat's not working?14:24
incorrectsorry, pushd and popd14:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #360891 in dovecot (main) "fatal errors during install" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36089114:36
* ScottK waves to ivoks.14:38
ivoksScottK: we might just quit on installing postfix's part in there's no main.cf14:38
ivokss/in/if14:38
ScottKThat's about all you can do I think.14:38
ScottKNot exploding is good.14:38
ivokslet me just check something14:39
ivoksyet, it explodes :/14:40
ivoksyep14:40
MatBoyhow do you guys solve that annoying ClamAV issue about updates when the repo is out of date ?14:43
ivoksi say some nasty words about clamav :)14:43
MatBoyclamav is nice14:44
ScottKMatBoy: I volunteer a lot of time to get the Ubuntu clamav packages updated and tested as soon as possible.14:44
MatBoyScottK: ok, can I help on this ?14:44
ScottKMatBoy: What do you use clamav with and on what release (yes)?14:44
ivoksof course14:44
MatBoyI doubt is the virus definistions are updated when you get this message14:45
ScottKVirus definitions are still updated14:45
MatBoyScottK: I'm on.... WARNING: Local version: 0.94.2 Recommended version: 0.95.114:45
ScottKWhat you don't have is the latest engine so not all the definitions can be used.14:45
MatBoykeej14:45
MatBoynope indeed14:46
ScottKMatBoy: Which Ubuntu release?14:46
MatBoyI'm on 8.1014:46
MatBoyIntrepid14:46
ScottKAnd how do you use clamav?14:46
MatBoyScottK: with amavisd14:46
ScottKMatBoy: OK.  We have a group that work on it.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Clamav has some information.14:47
ScottK0.95.1 in in the ubuntu-clamav PPA for testing.14:47
MatBoythis looks nice14:47
ScottKcemc can give you advice on helping with testing as he's been doing most of it recently.14:47
ivoksppa for stuff like this would be great14:48
ivoksclamav is a moving target14:48
ivoksit would be easier to handle it with ppa, than -updates14:48
ScottKWe use the PPA for testing, push to backports when we have all the rdepends updated, and then to -security/-updates once they've had broad testing.14:49
cemcbut PPA isn't that restricted, anybody can upload anything and mess it up :) be accident of course14:49
cemcby*14:49
ScottKSince the clamav upgrades fix security issues we do need to get them into the official repos.14:50
ScottKPPA is a good stopping place, but not enough14:50
ivokstrue14:50
MatBoyI need to read more about PPA14:51
cemccreate your own, and play around with it a bit ;)14:51
MatBoyI'm wondering if amavisd quarantines a mail because of a virus... to it sees it as "Banned"... if it should remove the virus on releasing14:54
ScottKI don't think one can rely on that sort of thing even if it works sometimes.14:56
ScottKDid you ever get a virus mail that you wanted to keep?14:58
* ScottK would recommend just ditch anything labled virus14:58
MatBoyScottK: true, but the virus is tagged as Banned...15:00
ivoksin mail.log?15:00
ScottKChange it to discard15:00
ScottKivoks knows amavisd-new better than me, so I'd listen to him15:00
MatBoyivoks: no in my postvis admin tool that I'm testing to see how to script such thing :)15:01
MatBoyso I use SQL quarantine15:01
cemcMatBoy: you put the banned/virus email in SQL ?15:02
ScottKcemc: Did you ever figure anything about qpsmtpd?  If you get a fix, I can still get it in Jaunty.15:03
cemcScottK: never got around to that... but I'll take a look tonight and give you an answer15:04
MatBoycemc: yep15:04
ScottKThanks15:04
cemcMatBoy: even if it has a banned 10mb attachment on it?15:05
MatBoycemc: possible... but I can select on it15:05
MatBoyI can say... max X-MB15:06
cemcis that wise? why not store it in a directory somewhere and have the information (path, size etc) in SQL ?15:06
cemcI'm no expert, just asking ;)15:07
MatBoycemc: I'm not an expert too... just figuring out what is best and try to understand why :P15:08
MatBoycemc: directory can be done too indeed15:08
MatBoycemc: need to figure that out too :D15:08
MatBoyis there no good online spamfilter testtool that spams your spamfilter with about 100 mails ?15:09
MatBoythey were there before15:09
ivokslool:15:10
ivoksups...15:10
MatBoyUPS = Transport company or Universal Power Supply :P15:12
ivoksScottK: i have a new patch for that dovecot-postfix thingy15:19
ScottKivoks: OK.  Is it in the bug?15:20
ivoksScottK: uploading15:20
Actiumwhat bug? the "let's make postfix incredibly safe by having it not listen on any ports"-one? or did i miss sth?15:21
ivoksActium: bug 36089115:22
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 360891 in dovecot "fatal errors during install" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36089115:22
MatBoycemc: do you store on MySQL/file base ?15:22
Actiumthanks15:22
ivoksScottK: if there are gramar mistakes, please fix them; i'm not native english speaker :)15:23
ScottKivoks: Will do15:24
MatBoybrb.. dizzy from antibiotics15:24
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ivokslamont: postfix still leaves /var/lib/postfix behind on purge15:32
ivokslamont: bug 34899015:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 348990 in postfix "Deinstallation doesn't delete all files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34899015:33
ScottKPostfix 2.6 RC out today too.15:34
ivoksScottK: well, you could take care of this postfix bug15:36
ivoks:)15:36
ivokssince lamont isn't around15:36
* ScottK is about out of Ubuntu time for a while....15:36
ScottKNeed to get some actual $work done.15:36
ivoksok :)15:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #362344 in postfix (main) "Not able to fix while update - crashes - /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: postfix is broken or not fully installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36234415:42
ScottKivoks: Uploaded.15:46
ivoksScottK: great, thank you!15:47
jbernardkirkland: i just pushed a branch of screen-profiles to lp:~jbernard/+junk/screen-profiles that fixes the typo in the screen-profiles-extras description16:14
kirklandjbernard: cool, thanks16:14
* kirkland takes a quick look16:14
kirklandjbernard: merged, thanks for you contribution ;-)16:19
jbernardkirkland: no problem, that was easy ;)16:19
kirklandjbernard: agreed ;-)16:19
MatBoycemc: around ?16:40
lamontScottK: thanks for taking care of the /var/lib/postfix thing17:17
ScottKlamont: I didn't.  The fixed thing was about a dovecot bug.17:18
lamontah, ok17:19
lamontfrankly, I don't really consider any droppings-on-purge to be release critical17:19
lamontthough they are definitely "fix in karmic"17:19
lamontalthough all the MTAs suffer from the same "we don't nuke /etc/aliases on purge" feature17:20
MatBoylol amavisd with sql is kinda tricky17:20
cemcMatBoy: yes?19:01
MatBoycemc: do you quarantine using mysql and files ?19:04
cemcMatBoy: I'm not really using amavis either... and when I did, I don't remember qurantining anything. just log and discard19:06
cemcI realize that it may not be the best policy19:09
MatBoycemc: ok19:10
cemcwhy are you going thru so much trouble anyway? just quarantine it in a file, and you have the logs if something's needed, right?19:10
MatBoyand let the user re-sent his email ?19:10
cemclet the user clean his system ;)19:11
cemcand take better care of it next time19:11
cemcwhat will you do with the quarantined stuff?19:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #362427 in openssh (main) "Public key ssh auth doesn't work in Jaunty" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36242719:15
MatBoycemc: hold it for a while and remove it :)19:28
chris_d_adamscan anyone explain why apache gives this message when you have more than one vhost?19:39
chris_d_adamsVirtualHost *:80 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported19:39
chris_d_adamshow do you resolve it?19:39
ivoksyou can resolve it with proper configuration19:40
ivoksif NameVirtualHost is *:80, then all VirtualHosts need to be *:8019:41
ivoksif NVH is *, then all VH should be *19:41
ivoksbut, it's just a warning, i doubt you'll have problems with that setup19:42
jmedinahi ivoks19:43
chris_d_adamsah19:43
chris_d_adamsthanks19:43
ivokshi jmedina19:44
ivokshi all :)19:44
jmedinaivoks: which bacula version are you using in production?19:44
ivoksthose from repository19:45
ivoksin 8.0419:45
jmedinabacula team just releases bacula 3.0.0 and they annonced that they will drop bacul 2.4 support in a few months19:45
jmedinathe code base now will be 3.0x, I was asking about upstream 2.2 lifetime in #bacula19:46
jmedinasome devs told me that if they are going to drop 2.4 they doubt there is 2.2 support at the moment19:46
jmedinaivoks: yeap Im using 2.2.x from hardy repo19:46
ivoksthey are moving too fast19:47
chris_d_adamsivoks: that's cleared up that problem19:47
chris_d_adamsbut I'm also getting this message:19:47
chris_d_adams [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts19:47
chris_d_adamsshould I worry about that?19:48
ivokschris_d_adams: read my answer one more time :)19:48
chris_d_adamsivoks: I've set the named vhost to  NameVirtualHost *:80,  and all the vhosts are <VirtualHost *:80>19:49
chris_d_adamsi thought i was following your answer19:49
jmedinaivoks: I dont see any info about 2.2 support in bacula news19:49
LyonJTis there a facebook developer irc?19:50
ivokschris_d_adams: maybe you've put multiple NVHs19:50
ivoksjmedina: you are worried for security?19:51
cemcchris_d_adams: I have my NVH *:80 in httpd.conf, and in sites-available I have a bunch of <VirtualHost *:80>s19:52
chris_d_adamsah cemc  thanks, I'll check there19:52
chris_d_adamscemc: weird, me adding that gave me the error twice19:54
ivoksyou should have only one NVH per IP/port19:54
jmedinaivoks: well not at the moment, im worried about support19:54
ivoksjmedina: ubuntu provides support for packages in ubuntu ;)19:54
ivoksbaculasystems support only their own packages19:55
cemcchris_d_adams: NVH *:80 should be only in one place, check the other files too19:55
ivokshttp://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#namevirtualhost19:55
ivoksread this19:55
cemcchris_d_adams: do a 'grep -Ri namevirtualhost *' in /etc/apache219:55
jmedinaivoks: I know, any plans to package 3.0.x?19:55
ivoksjmedina: not for jaunty :)19:56
chris_d_adamscemc: thanks19:57
cemcchris_d_adams: but you should read the apache docs too19:57
chris_d_adamsivoks: they've been in front of me for the last 15 mins, and I've been following the examples here19:58
chris_d_adamsthanks for your patience so far, I have rtfm'ing, i promise19:58
ivokschris_d_adams: ubuntu ships some default configuration19:58
ivoksthere's default web page in sites-enabled19:58
ivoksin has NVH in it, and it's *19:59
ivoksso, if you don't disable that web site, you shouldn't add NVH into your web sites19:59
ivoksalso, all your websites would be <VirtualHost *>19:59
chris_d_adamsthe offending article was in ports.conf19:59
chris_d_adamsthanks guys!19:59
ivoksports.conf?!19:59
chris_d_adamsthat's the only place I didn't look20:00
ivoksit shouldn't be there anyway20:00
ivoksthat's for ports20:00
ivoksnot virtualhosts20:00
ivoksi agree, apache configuration should be easier :)20:00
chris_d_adamsI'm running a ubuntu 8.10 vm with memset.com20:01
chris_d_adamsmay be they put it in there for laughs20:01
chris_d_adamsthanks again for your help20:01
chris_d_adamsthis had been driving me insane20:01
ivoksvms suck20:01
ivoksthere's too many people who create them and don't have a clue about what they are doing :)20:01
ivokswhat's the name of vm provider that set's clock to Georgian time?20:02
ivokssets20:03
chris_d_adamsivoks: this is true20:03
ivoksthey are from Georgia, USA, but set the clock to Georgia, Europe20:03
ivoksnot only the clock, but also do LC :)20:04
ivoksorudie was the victime of that vm provider :D20:05
ivokstoo many typos, time to go to bed20:05
uvirtbotNew bug: #362510 in openssh (main) "force-command unable to pass arguments along to internal-sftp (dup-of: 362511)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36251020:41
LyonJTDoes anyone have a guide to Squid Proxy server?20:49
uvirtbotNew bug: #362511 in openssh (main) "force-command unable to pass arguments along to internal-sftp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36251120:55
LyonJTWhat is the workgroup used for in samba configuration file?21:19
geniiLyonJT: When you browse the network, you see for instance: Workgroup: MSHome   or such. Then inside there will be all the computers with shares which also belong to the workgroup called MSHome21:24
LyonJTDon't worry i just worked it out but thank you!21:24
geniinp21:25
LyonJT:)21:26
LyonJTwhat port do you use to access a squid proxy server?21:37
giovaniLyonJT: the default is 3128, iirc21:38
giovanibut just check your config file21:38
LyonJTwill do but its soo big!21:38
giovanijust do a text search for 312821:39
giovanior "port"21:39
giovanishould be straightforward21:39
coffeedudegiovani is right21:39
coffeedudeit's 312821:39
LyonJTyes i found it21:40
LyonJTis it tcp or udp?21:40
coffeedudetcp21:40
giovaniHTTP is TCP21:40
LyonJTthanks!21:40
LyonJThow can i enable user name and password  on it?21:40
giovanieither read the squid docs/config21:41
giovanior #squid21:41
LyonJTthanks buddy21:43
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LyonJTmy proxy server seems to work22:01
LyonJTbut msn messenger doesn't seem to work why is that?22:02
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foxbuntuLyonJT, sounds like a config issue with MSN Messanger22:11
LyonJTrealy :S22:11
giovaniLyonJT: messenger apps tend to be complex -- they use many ports sometimes, who knows22:11
LyonJTi got the ip address of the proxy and the port number though22:11
LyonJTthank you22:19
LyonJTnever mind ill look into it22:19
LyonJTi am trying to install webmin22:24
LyonJTsudo dpkg -i webmin_1.441_all.deb22:24
LyonJTi use that22:24
LyonJTbut it says it cant find it22:24
LyonJT:S22:24
LyonJTbut when i put ls in it is there22:24
foxbuntuLyonJT, permissions22:24
LyonJToh dw i found out22:24
LyonJTlol22:24
LyonJTno no  i was using the wrong switch22:25
LyonJTlol22:25
foxbuntuok22:25
LyonJTthank you though!22:27
vraayou only have to restart when there is a kernel change right?22:58
jmedinavraa: or when the system crashes22:59
friartuckha ha22:59
jmedinabut rarely happens, most because hardware failure22:59
vraano it's never crashed23:02
vraait's ibm hardware, it won't fail23:02
vraa:D23:02
vraaso when i run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" is there a way to tell when it'll require a restart or when it won't?23:03
jmedinavraa: unless you upgrade kernel and you really need to boot with it23:03
jmedinaif not, probably the most you can do is restart/reload services/daemons23:03
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