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knomeit is actually wrong to say ubuntu and xubuntu are different *distros*. they aren't. xubuntu is just a "flavor" of ubuntu.00:06
knomethe xubuntu team basically has to maintain only the xfce packages and anything else that xubuntu brings in to ubuntu00:07
Sniper606on distrowatch they are listed seperately00:08
knomethat is a way less than having completely your own distro00:08
knomeSniper606, true, but they really aren't different *distros*00:08
Sniper606thats what was i see it too00:08
Sniper606*way00:08
Sniper606err00:08
knomeSniper606, if you have problems with the ubuntu distro, you have it in xubuntu as well00:08
Sniper606thats the way i see it too00:09
knome(if it's not gnome/some other non-xubuntu app specific)00:09
SML1226Is there any batch file converter that you know of that will convert unprotected wma's to mp3?00:45
SML1226I have 300+ songs and only about 20 are mp3 but I am moving to something that doesn't support wma anymore00:46
SML1226a program for windows would work but is not prefered (xubu is much faster on this machine)00:47
SML1226Hey did anybody answer my question (Batch music converter)? I left for 5 mins and this stupid computer restarted itself01:21
cody-somervilleSML1226, I'm sure there is something01:22
cody-somervilleIf not for mp3, for ogg01:22
SML1226ok I just want to get rid of the complication caused by wma01:23
SML1226I'll look around. Just wondering if anybody could recomend one01:23
monskeeHello! I was wondering if anyone could help me.... I have googled my problem... found it, but am all confused! (i'm a windows refugee!)02:26
monskeeJust installed xubuntu using wubi and installation went fine (4th time around)02:26
monskeethen when i try to boot it first dropps me to shell!02:26
monskee(how cheeky)02:26
Kangarooo!ask : monskee02:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ask : monskee02:27
monskee!with ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx does not exist02:27
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:27
monskeeanyone know where I might find some help? (is this the right place?)02:28
Kangarooou wanted 2 partitions or full partition with xubuntu?02:29
cody-somervillewubi installs can easily be upset unfortunately02:29
monskeeyeah they're like a crying child02:30
monskeeurm02:30
monskeejust trying xubuntu out02:30
monskeefor my uncle02:30
monskeeso have installed xubuntu on windows02:30
monskeeurm dual partition is that?02:31
monskeestupid windows02:31
Kangarooobetter download 9.04 beta http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.04/beta/ and rip to disk in CD-RW so later u can use it again i want to try other distros :)02:31
Kangaroooi installed dual boot but not using window anymore so soon ill make full install02:32
monskeegrrr no cd writing here i'm afraid - it's the philippines02:33
Kangaroooouh and i recoomend using EXT4  its faster :) on install step take manual and make one table / all but leave amount same as ram and make it as swap-02:35
Kangarooo? you can write as many xubuntu and other linux as much as u want its free02:35
Kangaroooin philipines there are no Cd recorders or linux is forbiden? philipines like state in usa?02:36
monskeelol no it's not forbidden - just i'm on holiday and they haven't got a cd-writer connected to the internet for miles :)02:37
monskeeit's a country02:37
Kangarooowow its near china.. hey cool :)02:38
Kangaroooim in Latvia :)02:38
monskee:)02:38
monskeei'm from england02:38
monskee(you'll know where THAT is :)02:38
Kangaroooso u can go to internet cafe and download and write02:39
Kangaroooyes :)02:39
monskeedon't have the caaaash02:39
monskeeor the tiiiiime02:39
monskeeis it a complicated problem?02:40
monskeethat i need to get a live cd for?02:40
monskee(cos then he'll just have to stick with stupid slow xp02:40
monskee)02:40
monskeeif i type 'exit' in the boot shell wotzit then i get through to xubuntu...02:40
Kangaroooits really big price in philipines? i should check it out first on pictures... well but if installation pc dont have internet you wont have updates so better stable version 8.1002:40
monskeebut i think no sound02:40
monskeeit does!02:41
monskeei'm on installation pc now!02:41
monskeethis is 8.1002:41
Kangaroooif its new computer and it allows install from usb make usb installation check !google:usb xubuntu bootable. how u like in philipines?02:43
monskeetried that 1st02:43
monskeecan't boot02:43
monskeefrom usb02:43
monskeelove it02:43
monskeeit's really hot02:43
monskeeandi got a basketball kit made for me!02:43
Kangarooomeet neighbors make marketing about xubuntu - fast & free and rip cd there ;)02:45
Kangarooomonskee: there is ubuntu LoCo team there also check #ubuntu-ph  and02:48
Kangarooomonskee: there in PH are internetcafes with ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57211202:52
monskeeoh cool02:52
Kangarooogo to /j #ubuntu-ph02:54
monskeethx02:55
kromarhow can i take a screenshot?04:05
indo_sloaccessories > screenshot? 9.0404:10
indo_slokromar: prnt scrn key04:10
kromarwhen i use the key i cant paste it in gimp...04:11
kromarso i assume it doesent take one04:12
monskee_my filemanager in xubuntu has crashed (not responding) how do i force close it?05:10
MTec007can i bind the windows key on my keyboard to the applications menu?06:48
MTec007like windows does?06:48
lukinforeMTec007, command is xfce4-popup-menu07:49
MTec007lukinfore, i can set the shortcut and it is set as Super+Super_L but it wont work when i go to use it.07:56
lukinforeMTec007, Super+Super_L? I belive, on standard keyboards, there is separate Menu key, first after right super, on mine. But however maybe mentioned keystroke had been already binded for something?08:09
lukinforeand it captured before use for menu popup08:09
lukinforeor, what version do xfce do you have?08:13
lukinforeis that command works just from terminal?08:13
lukinfore*of xfce08:13
MTec007_lukinfore, is there any way to tell if or what binded the keystroke and how i can unset it possibly?09:13
lukinforeMTec007_, not sure09:15
MTec007_i dont think i have a right super, im on a laptop but i do have the infamous 'right click menu' key09:15
lukinforeone that comes to mind what could capture key before xfce is compiz09:16
MTec007_maybe with more searching ill find an answer09:16
lukinforemaybe xev, could tell you smth useful09:16
lukinforeor not09:17
lukinforeso you have xfce4-popup-menu working from terminal?09:17
MTec007_yes09:18
lukinforebut other keybinding work?09:18
MTec007_control esc, the default09:18
MTec007_didnt test others09:19
MTec007_can i post the xev here? or maybe in a pmsg?09:19
lukinforewell, i'm not skilled enough to grab info from09:19
MTec007_ok09:19
MTec007_by the looks of the ctl+esc compared to the super+super_l nothing is grabbing it away from the command09:22
MTec007_oh and compiz is not installed, fyi09:25
MTec007_not exactly sure what that is though09:25
MTec007_found answer, bug 249945 in launchpad  fixed in latest relase of Jaunty Jackalope (posted 2-14) simple fix is to edit ./config/xfce4/shortcuts/shortcut.xml and change Super+Super_L to Super_L09:37
MTec007_works great now09:38
BigMoopiesWould there be anything wrong with running apt-get update , in roots crontab ?09:59
pieter_do ati drivers on xubuntu work?10:15
Puppet_MasterHello11:01
Puppet_MasterI've juste updated my xubuntu and the sound stop working11:02
Puppet_Masterbecause of this :11:02
Puppet_Master[  176.232806] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages11:02
Puppet_Masterand a lot of messages like this11:02
Puppet_Mastersomebody have an idea ?11:03
reminkyo' !11:07
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SiDiPuppet_Master, try #ubuntu if noone answers here ;) It's still morning :P11:29
Puppet_MasterSiDi, ok thx11:31
tingle!release12:37
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases12:37
indois there a way quick way to configure my touchpad?12:58
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fortunevIdea. Would it bee a good thing to include Fluxbox as a secondary WM for xubuntu?14:42
cody-somervilleNo14:57
cody-somervilleThere is Fluxbuntu for that14:57
genady12_hey, someone knows a good way to see samba shares?15:23
SlonkieAnyone know of an Application which makes me capable of syncing my PDA (windows 5 mobile edition) with an calender on my xubuntu PC?15:29
charlie-tcaSlonkie: have you looked at "multisync"15:38
SlonkieNope, but i'll see if it works, thanks.15:39
charlie-tcaThere is also "gnome-pilot" for Palm15:39
SlonkieWell mines a HP iPAQ, but thanks ;).15:40
charlie-tcamultisync might work, then. It handles several different brands15:41
edoceoI just upgraded from Hardy to INtrepid and now my WiFi don't go :(  I can see 'wifi0' in the output of ifconfig but in xfce there is no network control indicator16:12
cody-somervilleThere is no network-manager applet?16:40
LiquidRainHello.  Are keyboard repeat rate settings broken in Xubuntu 9.04 beta? (fully updated) I am trying to change them to no effect and I can't find any bugs about it on Launchpad.18:23
ricochethey guys i have a dell mini 9 and a Kodak Zi6, when i take 720p @ 60fps and pop the SD into the mini, when i try to play the videos its extremely choppy and the video often stops while the audio continues18:25
ricocheti am running jaunty18:25
LiquidRainricochet: a mini 9 is likely not powerful enough to play 720p playback18:25
ricochetahh really? so its just the hardware?18:25
LiquidRainYep.  Oh man at 60fps?18:25
LiquidRainYeah you DEFINITELY need more hardware to play that back.18:25
ricochethahaha damn.18:26
LiquidRainYou'll need a reasonably powerful laptop/desktop, at least a 2GHz Core 2 Duo/Athlon X2 I'd say18:26
LiquidRainthe Mini 9 has a really weak little Intel Atom chip.  no way it'd keep up.18:26
ricochetKodak Zi6! damn it to hell.18:26
ricochetso wait, why can the Zi6 play it back?18:27
ricochetwell18:27
ricochetnevermind that was a dumb question18:27
LiquidRainit has dedicated MPEG chips18:27
ricochetyeah, i realized that after i said it18:27
ricochet< doesnt think before he speaks18:27
LiquidRainare you running Xubuntu Jaunty?18:27
ricochetyep18:28
LiquidRainCan you check something for me?18:28
ricochetyep18:28
LiquidRainGo into the XFCE Keyboard settings and change your delay/repeat rate and test it18:28
ricochetis it going to mess up my computer?18:28
LiquidRainThey don't change for me, it just uses whatever the system default is.18:28
LiquidRainnope, just remember what the repeat/delay values are if you want to reset it :)18:28
ricochetrepeat delay: 50018:29
ricochetrepeat speed: 2018:29
LiquidRainif you shorten it, and test it using the test box, does it change anything?18:29
LiquidRainor does it stay the same?18:29
LiquidRainif I change the settings on mine, the behaviour does not change at all.  changing the settings won't work and I might have to file a bug on it.18:30
ricocheti am not sure what its supposed to change18:31
ricochetit doesnt look much different18:31
LiquidRainhold down a key on your keyboard18:31
LiquidRain"Delay" changes the amount of time till the key starts repeating18:31
LiquidRainand "Rate" changes how fast the key repeats18:31
LiquidRainif nothing is changing when you move the sliders than this is indeed a bug18:31
ricochetok the repeat speed works18:32
ricocheti dont think the repeat delay does18:32
LiquidRainhmm18:32
LiquidRainyup, that's the bug alright...18:33
ricochetam i going to have to reinstall everything when the final release comes?18:35
LiquidRainmy experience has been "no"18:35
LiquidRainyou'll just see a lot less updates to packages all of a sudden :)18:36
ricochethaha yeah it works for now18:36
ricocheti am leaving the country in a few weeks18:37
acmeincThe updates that were sent out to my Xubuntu (jaunty) last night, turned my Xubuntu machine into a Gnome DM...has this been a popular topic today?18:37
LiquidRainacmeinc: couldn't tell you, just got in. I am fully updated and did not have any issues though.18:37
ricochethaha i havent done the updates yet18:37
acmeinci posted to the forum...there is a screen shot there...would you like the link?18:38
LiquidRainacmeinc: I don't think I'd be capable of helping, I'm just a regular user here. :)18:38
LiquidRainbut sure, link away18:38
LiquidRainand I just doublechecked, I'm fully updated and no problems.18:38
charlie-tcaacmeinc: you mean Xfce went away and gnome was installed instead?18:38
charlie-tcaMight log out and select Xfce session from the login options18:39
acmeincodd...Charlie:  no i normally run xubuntu, and last nite there was an update available, i installed, and restarted (it asked me to restart), when my machine came back up, it was Gnome, rather than xfce, and there were some errors18:39
charlie-tcaI haven't seen that. and I am fully up to date18:40
geniiMight be some dep quirk since both use gdm18:40
charlie-tcaDid you have only xubuntu on there?18:40
acmeincyep18:40
acmeinchttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112737318:40
charlie-tcaThe only thing in that image is the gnome error message?18:41
LiquidRainif someone else can confirm that changing the keyboard repeat delay doesn't work in Xubuntu, I'll go ahead and file a bug.18:42
charlie-tcaSince Xubuntu uses xfce fast user switcher, that is probably a good question it asked18:42
acmeinci know...after a few restarts..i decided to click "delete"...i restarted once more, and no dice18:42
charlie-tcadid you select "xfce session"?18:43
acmeincno login window...let me try....18:43
charlie-tcaYou should get a gdm login window. Are you auto-logging in to the desktop, then?18:44
acmeincOk. charlie, I'm now in xfce, however my settings are all wrong, and nothing looks how it used to....furthermore, i noticed in the session drop down a selction of xclient script...i bet the update messed with my xclient script, as that seemed to be the default setting18:46
charlie-tcahmmm, wonder how long you haven't been booting into xfce?18:47
acmeinci reboot every day...so it was definately the update that changed something18:47
acmeinc...either way i have to go to work18:48
charlie-tcagood luck18:48
acmeinci ahve a hot swap drive which will p0ut me back to my old settings18:48
acmeincthx for the help18:48
charlie-tcayou are welcome18:49
LiquidRainhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/36245518:51
LiquidRainif someone would be so kind as to confirm/not confirm the bug in comments I'd appreciate it18:51
charlie-tcalet me see, my fresh install just finished18:51
LiquidRainthanks18:52
charlie-tcarepeat speed changes; delay does not seem too18:54
LiquidRainYep, that's the bug alright.  So I'm not going crazy, great. :)18:54
charlie-tcanot only that but also reported to xfce.bugzilla.org18:58
LiquidRainohh yeah I see that18:59
LiquidRainlooks like someone just made a type in the code and XFCE hasn't fixed it18:59
charlie-tcaI'm going to add to that report and link it to launchpad19:00
charlie-tcaokay, done19:03
LiquidRainthanks!19:03
charlie-tcaYou are welcome19:03
knomecharlie-tca, you too.19:06
charlie-tcawhat, me too?19:06
knomecharlie-tca, you are welcome here as well.19:06
* charlie-tca did not19:06
knomecharlie-tca, just ping me a few days before coming, i'll prepare a meal for you19:07
charlie-tcaokay, great!19:07
charlie-tcathanks19:07
cjoneswhere can i find a good guide on installing software from source19:31
knome!build | cjones19:32
ubottucjones: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)19:32
cjonesknomw thanks19:33
SiDi!cookie19:36
ubottuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!19:36
charlie-tca!coffee19:36
ubottucoffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java19:36
Slonkielol19:36
* genii decides to have one19:37
knomeone cookie or one coffee?19:38
Slonkieor both19:39
roadrunner1is there a way to make a message box popup in GUI from the command-line?19:39
SiDi!coffee19:39
ubottucoffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java19:39
charlie-tcaIt is called zenity19:39
charlie-tca!zenity19:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about zenity19:40
charlie-tca!info zenity19:40
ubottuzenity (source: zenity): Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.24.0-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1840 kB, installed size 4924 kB19:40
SiDiroadrunner1, notify-send can send notifications, and with notify-osd if you set timeout to 0 it'll display a popup instead19:40
roadrunner1cool19:40
charlie-tcaor just use zenity19:40
LiquidRainDoes anyone else use Quod Libet?  It does not seem to save its minimized window state when closed and re-opened. (a regression)  Is this QL's fault or XFCE's?19:45
LiquidRainthen again it might be the Tray Icon plugin not working correctly19:46
LiquidRainyeah that appears to be it.19:47
SiDi!kitten20:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kitten20:11
SiDipff20:11
knomeKitten is a traditional knomish meal. It is best served hot in a chilisauce.20:12
charlie-tcalol20:17
charlie-tcaand I thought it was the flat thing left when the truck pulled out20:17
roadrunner1zenity worked great20:27
slow-motionhi20:55
charlie-tcaHello, slow-motion20:58
knomesl20:58
knomeow20:58
knomemo20:58
knometi20:58
slow-motionhi charlie-tca20:58
knomeon20:58
knome;)20:58
slow-motionhi knome20:58
knomeo/20:58
melkarti cant install xubuntu rc in a virtualbox, using the "install xubuntu" option right away from the boot. it gets stuck at 86%21:07
charlie-tcaalternate or desktop cd?21:17
melkartdesktop cd21:18
charlie-tcagive it enough memory?21:18
charlie-tcamight be just working too, in the background. try rt-ctrl + F4 to see tty4 in vbox, it should tell you if it is stuck or doing things.21:19
charlie-tcaIt gives the time in the left column, which should be close to the actual minutes, at least.21:19
melkartthx, havent tried that yet21:20
melkartdamn, turned that machine off :(21:21
charlie-tcaHuh?21:21
charlie-tcaright-ctrl+F4?21:22
melkartwell... i mean, now i'll have to go through the whole installation again in order to be able to check what is written in the tty421:22
slow-motionn821:22
charlie-tcaright-ctrl should be your host key, it replaces ctrl+alt in vbox21:22
melkarthm... the screenblanker switches on at about that time, when installation is 86% through21:23
charlie-tcawhich cd, 64 or 38?21:23
charlie-tca386?21:23
melkart(i am installing ubuntu in a vbox right now, and this just happened)21:23
melkart38621:23
charlie-tcaI will run here and see. Xubuntu or ubuntu?21:23
LiquidRainWhat host and vbox version?21:24
charlie-tcaI never had screensaver kick in, I usually move the mouse every couple minutes to keep it from happening21:24
melkartwell, it got stuck with xubuntu. with ubuntu i tried out some daily builds and it always worked... and now it's 90% through and still works so i guess that with ubuntu it works fine21:24
melkartvbox 2.20 directly from sun21:24
melkartalsa sound driver. 512 MB main memory, 12 MB graphics memory, no 3d acceleration21:24
melkarthost: debian lenny21:24
charlie-tcaI use the same things, with 3d, host: Jaunty21:25
melkartgerman/deutsch localisation. and i chose "xubuntu installieren" directly from boot. and chose "use whole hard disk (automatic)"21:25
charlie-tcaYeah, I give them 10GB hard drives21:26
charlie-tcaI have not had it lock up yet21:26
melkarti see. i gave it 8 GB hard disk... with dynamic enlargement (or how it is called). not fixed size21:26
charlie-tcaWell, the day I start 6 installations at once, it did.21:26
charlie-tcaright, no point in a fixed size. It just takes away real drive space21:27
charlie-tcaBut I ran all my testing on a hardware system yesterday. I'll try it in VBox21:28
charlie-tcaYay! release candidate is here...21:31
melkarttried again... now it looks as if the error does not happen again... sorry for the false alarm21:51
charlie-tcaNo problem. I have it running myself, but the screensaver has not kicked in, at 82% now21:52
charlie-tcaI'll play with it a little, maybe turn the time down, see if the screensaver is locking it up.21:52
charlie-tcaI'm at 83%, downloading language packs, with 7 minutes remaining for the download. That might be what it was.21:54
charlie-tcaMaybe it lost the connection, and that locked it up?21:54
melkartyes, maybe21:54
charlie-tcaThanks for letting us know. It is something to watch for21:55
melkartare you a xubuntu developer?21:56
charlie-tcaNo, just the QA and testing21:56
charlie-tcalead21:56
melkarti see. thank you for your efforts21:56
charlie-tcayou're welcome. I hate things going wrong when I think they shouldn't.21:57
ricocheti have a question for everyone.. i have a dell mini 9 with xubuntu jaunty on it.. and i dont think the wired network coonnection works.. the wireless works perfectly22:19
ricochetany ideas?22:19
Kangaroooi shared a foder in xubuntu and cant copy file from other pc to that folder thrue network ...23:40
davidxhello folks..just installed xubuntu on my rig and was wondering if i could network with my Mac?23:41
davidxi remember when i used regular Ubuntu, i was able to di it(although it was a pin)23:42
davidxanyone?23:45
charlie-tcaKangarooo: what kind of network connection?23:47
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