[00:06] <knome> it is actually wrong to say ubuntu and xubuntu are different *distros*. they aren't. xubuntu is just a "flavor" of ubuntu.
[00:07] <knome> the xubuntu team basically has to maintain only the xfce packages and anything else that xubuntu brings in to ubuntu
[00:08] <Sniper606> on distrowatch they are listed seperately
[00:08] <knome> that is a way less than having completely your own distro
[00:08] <knome> Sniper606, true, but they really aren't different *distros*
[00:08] <Sniper606> thats what was i see it too
[00:08] <Sniper606> *way
[00:08] <Sniper606> err
[00:08] <knome> Sniper606, if you have problems with the ubuntu distro, you have it in xubuntu as well
[00:09] <Sniper606> thats the way i see it too
[00:09] <knome> (if it's not gnome/some other non-xubuntu app specific)
[00:45] <SML1226> Is there any batch file converter that you know of that will convert unprotected wma's to mp3?
[00:46] <SML1226> I have 300+ songs and only about 20 are mp3 but I am moving to something that doesn't support wma anymore
[00:47] <SML1226> a program for windows would work but is not prefered (xubu is much faster on this machine)
[01:21] <SML1226> Hey did anybody answer my question (Batch music converter)? I left for 5 mins and this stupid computer restarted itself
[01:22] <cody-somerville> SML1226, I'm sure there is something
[01:22] <cody-somerville> If not for mp3, for ogg
[01:23] <SML1226> ok I just want to get rid of the complication caused by wma
[01:23] <SML1226> I'll look around. Just wondering if anybody could recomend one
[02:26] <monskee> Hello! I was wondering if anyone could help me.... I have googled my problem... found it, but am all confused! (i'm a windows refugee!)
[02:26] <monskee> Just installed xubuntu using wubi and installation went fine (4th time around)
[02:26] <monskee> then when i try to boot it first dropps me to shell!
[02:26] <monskee> (how cheeky)
[02:27] <Kangarooo> !ask : monskee
[02:27] <monskee> !with ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx does not exist
[02:28] <monskee> anyone know where I might find some help? (is this the right place?)
[02:29] <Kangarooo> u wanted 2 partitions or full partition with xubuntu?
[02:29] <cody-somerville> wubi installs can easily be upset unfortunately
[02:30] <monskee> yeah they're like a crying child
[02:30] <monskee> urm
[02:30] <monskee> just trying xubuntu out
[02:30] <monskee> for my uncle
[02:30] <monskee> so have installed xubuntu on windows
[02:31] <monskee> urm dual partition is that?
[02:31] <monskee> stupid windows
[02:31] <Kangarooo> better download 9.04 beta http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.04/beta/ and rip to disk in CD-RW so later u can use it again i want to try other distros :)
[02:32] <Kangarooo> i installed dual boot but not using window anymore so soon ill make full install
[02:33] <monskee> grrr no cd writing here i'm afraid - it's the philippines
[02:35] <Kangarooo> ouh and i recoomend using EXT4  its faster :) on install step take manual and make one table / all but leave amount same as ram and make it as swap-
[02:35] <Kangarooo> ? you can write as many xubuntu and other linux as much as u want its free
[02:36] <Kangarooo> in philipines there are no Cd recorders or linux is forbiden? philipines like state in usa?
[02:37] <monskee> lol no it's not forbidden - just i'm on holiday and they haven't got a cd-writer connected to the internet for miles :)
[02:37] <monskee> it's a country
[02:38] <Kangarooo> wow its near china.. hey cool :)
[02:38] <Kangarooo> im in Latvia :)
[02:38] <monskee> :)
[02:38] <monskee> i'm from england
[02:38] <monskee> (you'll know where THAT is :)
[02:39] <Kangarooo> so u can go to internet cafe and download and write
[02:39] <Kangarooo> yes :)
[02:39] <monskee> don't have the caaaash
[02:39] <monskee> or the tiiiiime
[02:40] <monskee> is it a complicated problem?
[02:40] <monskee> that i need to get a live cd for?
[02:40] <monskee> (cos then he'll just have to stick with stupid slow xp
[02:40] <monskee> )
[02:40] <monskee> if i type 'exit' in the boot shell wotzit then i get through to xubuntu...
[02:40] <Kangarooo> its really big price in philipines? i should check it out first on pictures... well but if installation pc dont have internet you wont have updates so better stable version 8.10
[02:40] <monskee> but i think no sound
[02:41] <monskee> it does!
[02:41] <monskee> i'm on installation pc now!
[02:41] <monskee> this is 8.10
[02:43] <Kangarooo> if its new computer and it allows install from usb make usb installation check !google:usb xubuntu bootable. how u like in philipines?
[02:43] <monskee> tried that 1st
[02:43] <monskee> can't boot
[02:43] <monskee> from usb
[02:43] <monskee> love it
[02:43] <monskee> it's really hot
[02:43] <monskee> andi got a basketball kit made for me!
[02:45] <Kangarooo> meet neighbors make marketing about xubuntu - fast & free and rip cd there ;)
[02:48] <Kangarooo> monskee: there is ubuntu LoCo team there also check #ubuntu-ph  and
[02:52] <Kangarooo> monskee: there in PH are internetcafes with ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572112
[02:52] <monskee> oh cool
[02:54] <Kangarooo> go to /j #ubuntu-ph
[02:55] <monskee> thx
[04:05] <kromar> how can i take a screenshot?
[04:10] <indo_slo> accessories > screenshot? 9.04
[04:10] <indo_slo> kromar: prnt scrn key
[04:11] <kromar> when i use the key i cant paste it in gimp...
[04:12] <kromar> so i assume it doesent take one
[05:10] <monskee_> my filemanager in xubuntu has crashed (not responding) how do i force close it?
[06:48] <MTec007> can i bind the windows key on my keyboard to the applications menu?
[06:48] <MTec007> like windows does?
[07:49] <lukinfore> MTec007, command is xfce4-popup-menu
[07:56] <MTec007> lukinfore, i can set the shortcut and it is set as Super+Super_L but it wont work when i go to use it.
[08:09] <lukinfore> MTec007, Super+Super_L? I belive, on standard keyboards, there is separate Menu key, first after right super, on mine. But however maybe mentioned keystroke had been already binded for something?
[08:09] <lukinfore> and it captured before use for menu popup
[08:13] <lukinfore> or, what version do xfce do you have?
[08:13] <lukinfore> is that command works just from terminal?
[08:13] <lukinfore> *of xfce
[09:13] <MTec007_> lukinfore, is there any way to tell if or what binded the keystroke and how i can unset it possibly?
[09:15] <lukinfore> MTec007_, not sure
[09:15] <MTec007_> i dont think i have a right super, im on a laptop but i do have the infamous 'right click menu' key
[09:16] <lukinfore> one that comes to mind what could capture key before xfce is compiz
[09:16] <MTec007_> maybe with more searching ill find an answer
[09:16] <lukinfore> maybe xev, could tell you smth useful
[09:17] <lukinfore> or not
[09:17] <lukinfore> so you have xfce4-popup-menu working from terminal?
[09:18] <MTec007_> yes
[09:18] <lukinfore> but other keybinding work?
[09:18] <MTec007_> control esc, the default
[09:19] <MTec007_> didnt test others
[09:19] <MTec007_> can i post the xev here? or maybe in a pmsg?
[09:19] <lukinfore> well, i'm not skilled enough to grab info from
[09:19] <MTec007_> ok
[09:22] <MTec007_> by the looks of the ctl+esc compared to the super+super_l nothing is grabbing it away from the command
[09:25] <MTec007_> oh and compiz is not installed, fyi
[09:25] <MTec007_> not exactly sure what that is though
[09:37] <MTec007_> found answer, bug 249945 in launchpad  fixed in latest relase of Jaunty Jackalope (posted 2-14) simple fix is to edit ./config/xfce4/shortcuts/shortcut.xml and change Super+Super_L to Super_L
[09:38] <MTec007_> works great now
[09:59] <BigMoopies> Would there be anything wrong with running apt-get update , in roots crontab ?
[10:15] <pieter_> do ati drivers on xubuntu work?
[11:01] <Puppet_Master> Hello
[11:02] <Puppet_Master> I've juste updated my xubuntu and the sound stop working
[11:02] <Puppet_Master> because of this :
[11:02] <Puppet_Master> [  176.232806] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages
[11:02] <Puppet_Master> and a lot of messages like this
[11:03] <Puppet_Master> somebody have an idea ?
[11:07] <remink> yo' !
[11:29] <SiDi> Puppet_Master, try #ubuntu if noone answers here ;) It's still morning :P
[11:31] <Puppet_Master> SiDi, ok thx
[12:37] <tingle> !release
[12:58] <indo> is there a way quick way to configure my touchpad?
[14:42] <fortunev> Idea. Would it bee a good thing to include Fluxbox as a secondary WM for xubuntu?
[14:57] <cody-somerville> No
[14:57] <cody-somerville> There is Fluxbuntu for that
[15:23] <genady12_> hey, someone knows a good way to see samba shares?
[15:29] <Slonkie> Anyone know of an Application which makes me capable of syncing my PDA (windows 5 mobile edition) with an calender on my xubuntu PC?
[15:38] <charlie-tca> Slonkie: have you looked at "multisync"
[15:39] <Slonkie> Nope, but i'll see if it works, thanks.
[15:39] <charlie-tca> There is also "gnome-pilot" for Palm
[15:40] <Slonkie> Well mines a HP iPAQ, but thanks ;).
[15:41] <charlie-tca> multisync might work, then. It handles several different brands
[16:12] <edoceo> I just upgraded from Hardy to INtrepid and now my WiFi don't go :(  I can see 'wifi0' in the output of ifconfig but in xfce there is no network control indicator
[16:40] <cody-somerville> There is no network-manager applet?
[18:23] <LiquidRain> Hello.  Are keyboard repeat rate settings broken in Xubuntu 9.04 beta? (fully updated) I am trying to change them to no effect and I can't find any bugs about it on Launchpad.
[18:25] <ricochet> hey guys i have a dell mini 9 and a Kodak Zi6, when i take 720p @ 60fps and pop the SD into the mini, when i try to play the videos its extremely choppy and the video often stops while the audio continues
[18:25] <ricochet> i am running jaunty
[18:25] <LiquidRain> ricochet: a mini 9 is likely not powerful enough to play 720p playback
[18:25] <ricochet> ahh really? so its just the hardware?
[18:25] <LiquidRain> Yep.  Oh man at 60fps?
[18:25] <LiquidRain> Yeah you DEFINITELY need more hardware to play that back.
[18:26] <ricochet> hahaha damn.
[18:26] <LiquidRain> You'll need a reasonably powerful laptop/desktop, at least a 2GHz Core 2 Duo/Athlon X2 I'd say
[18:26] <LiquidRain> the Mini 9 has a really weak little Intel Atom chip.  no way it'd keep up.
[18:26] <ricochet> Kodak Zi6! damn it to hell.
[18:27] <ricochet> so wait, why can the Zi6 play it back?
[18:27] <ricochet> well
[18:27] <ricochet> nevermind that was a dumb question
[18:27] <LiquidRain> it has dedicated MPEG chips
[18:27] <ricochet> yeah, i realized that after i said it
[18:27] <ricochet> < doesnt think before he speaks
[18:27] <LiquidRain> are you running Xubuntu Jaunty?
[18:28] <ricochet> yep
[18:28] <LiquidRain> Can you check something for me?
[18:28] <ricochet> yep
[18:28] <LiquidRain> Go into the XFCE Keyboard settings and change your delay/repeat rate and test it
[18:28] <ricochet> is it going to mess up my computer?
[18:28] <LiquidRain> They don't change for me, it just uses whatever the system default is.
[18:28] <LiquidRain> nope, just remember what the repeat/delay values are if you want to reset it :)
[18:29] <ricochet> repeat delay: 500
[18:29] <ricochet> repeat speed: 20
[18:29] <LiquidRain> if you shorten it, and test it using the test box, does it change anything?
[18:29] <LiquidRain> or does it stay the same?
[18:30] <LiquidRain> if I change the settings on mine, the behaviour does not change at all.  changing the settings won't work and I might have to file a bug on it.
[18:31] <ricochet> i am not sure what its supposed to change
[18:31] <ricochet> it doesnt look much different
[18:31] <LiquidRain> hold down a key on your keyboard
[18:31] <LiquidRain> "Delay" changes the amount of time till the key starts repeating
[18:31] <LiquidRain> and "Rate" changes how fast the key repeats
[18:31] <LiquidRain> if nothing is changing when you move the sliders than this is indeed a bug
[18:32] <ricochet> ok the repeat speed works
[18:32] <ricochet> i dont think the repeat delay does
[18:32] <LiquidRain> hmm
[18:33] <LiquidRain> yup, that's the bug alright...
[18:35] <ricochet> am i going to have to reinstall everything when the final release comes?
[18:35] <LiquidRain> my experience has been "no"
[18:36] <LiquidRain> you'll just see a lot less updates to packages all of a sudden :)
[18:36] <ricochet> haha yeah it works for now
[18:37] <ricochet> i am leaving the country in a few weeks
[18:37] <acmeinc> The updates that were sent out to my Xubuntu (jaunty) last night, turned my Xubuntu machine into a Gnome DM...has this been a popular topic today?
[18:37] <LiquidRain> acmeinc: couldn't tell you, just got in. I am fully updated and did not have any issues though.
[18:37] <ricochet> haha i havent done the updates yet
[18:38] <acmeinc> i posted to the forum...there is a screen shot there...would you like the link?
[18:38] <LiquidRain> acmeinc: I don't think I'd be capable of helping, I'm just a regular user here. :)
[18:38] <LiquidRain> but sure, link away
[18:38] <LiquidRain> and I just doublechecked, I'm fully updated and no problems.
[18:38] <charlie-tca> acmeinc: you mean Xfce went away and gnome was installed instead?
[18:39] <charlie-tca> Might log out and select Xfce session from the login options
[18:39] <acmeinc> odd...Charlie:  no i normally run xubuntu, and last nite there was an update available, i installed, and restarted (it asked me to restart), when my machine came back up, it was Gnome, rather than xfce, and there were some errors
[18:40] <charlie-tca> I haven't seen that. and I am fully up to date
[18:40] <genii> Might be some dep quirk since both use gdm
[18:40] <charlie-tca> Did you have only xubuntu on there?
[18:40] <acmeinc> yep
[18:40] <acmeinc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1127373
[18:41] <charlie-tca> The only thing in that image is the gnome error message?
[18:42] <LiquidRain> if someone else can confirm that changing the keyboard repeat delay doesn't work in Xubuntu, I'll go ahead and file a bug.
[18:42] <charlie-tca> Since Xubuntu uses xfce fast user switcher, that is probably a good question it asked
[18:42] <acmeinc> i know...after a few restarts..i decided to click "delete"...i restarted once more, and no dice
[18:43] <charlie-tca> did you select "xfce session"?
[18:43] <acmeinc> no login window...let me try....
[18:44] <charlie-tca> You should get a gdm login window. Are you auto-logging in to the desktop, then?
[18:46] <acmeinc> Ok. charlie, I'm now in xfce, however my settings are all wrong, and nothing looks how it used to....furthermore, i noticed in the session drop down a selction of xclient script...i bet the update messed with my xclient script, as that seemed to be the default setting
[18:47] <charlie-tca> hmmm, wonder how long you haven't been booting into xfce?
[18:47] <acmeinc> i reboot every day...so it was definately the update that changed something
[18:48] <acmeinc> ...either way i have to go to work
[18:48] <charlie-tca> good luck
[18:48] <acmeinc> i ahve a hot swap drive which will p0ut me back to my old settings
[18:48] <acmeinc> thx for the help
[18:49] <charlie-tca> you are welcome
[18:51] <LiquidRain> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/362455
[18:51] <LiquidRain> if someone would be so kind as to confirm/not confirm the bug in comments I'd appreciate it
[18:51] <charlie-tca> let me see, my fresh install just finished
[18:52] <LiquidRain> thanks
[18:54] <charlie-tca> repeat speed changes; delay does not seem too
[18:54] <LiquidRain> Yep, that's the bug alright.  So I'm not going crazy, great. :)
[18:58] <charlie-tca> not only that but also reported to xfce.bugzilla.org
[18:59] <LiquidRain> ohh yeah I see that
[18:59] <LiquidRain> looks like someone just made a type in the code and XFCE hasn't fixed it
[19:00] <charlie-tca> I'm going to add to that report and link it to launchpad
[19:03] <charlie-tca> okay, done
[19:03] <LiquidRain> thanks!
[19:03] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:06] <knome> charlie-tca, you too.
[19:06] <charlie-tca> what, me too?
[19:06] <knome> charlie-tca, you are welcome here as well.
[19:06]  * charlie-tca did not
[19:07] <knome> charlie-tca, just ping me a few days before coming, i'll prepare a meal for you
[19:07] <charlie-tca> okay, great!
[19:07] <charlie-tca> thanks
[19:31] <cjones> where can i find a good guide on installing software from source
[19:32] <knome> !build | cjones
[19:33] <cjones> knomw thanks
[19:36] <SiDi> !cookie
[19:36] <charlie-tca> !coffee
[19:36] <Slonkie> lol
[19:37]  * genii decides to have one
[19:38] <knome> one cookie or one coffee?
[19:39] <Slonkie> or both
[19:39] <roadrunner1> is there a way to make a message box popup in GUI from the command-line?
[19:39] <SiDi> !coffee
[19:39] <charlie-tca> It is called zenity
[19:39] <charlie-tca> !zenity
[19:40] <charlie-tca> !info zenity
[19:40] <SiDi> roadrunner1, notify-send can send notifications, and with notify-osd if you set timeout to 0 it'll display a popup instead
[19:40] <roadrunner1> cool
[19:40] <charlie-tca> or just use zenity
[19:45] <LiquidRain> Does anyone else use Quod Libet?  It does not seem to save its minimized window state when closed and re-opened. (a regression)  Is this QL's fault or XFCE's?
[19:46] <LiquidRain> then again it might be the Tray Icon plugin not working correctly
[19:47] <LiquidRain> yeah that appears to be it.
[20:11] <SiDi> !kitten
[20:11] <SiDi> pff
[20:12] <knome> Kitten is a traditional knomish meal. It is best served hot in a chilisauce.
[20:17] <charlie-tca> lol
[20:17] <charlie-tca> and I thought it was the flat thing left when the truck pulled out
[20:27] <roadrunner1> zenity worked great
[20:55] <slow-motion> hi
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Hello, slow-motion
[20:58] <knome> sl
[20:58] <knome> ow
[20:58] <knome> mo
[20:58] <knome> ti
[20:58] <slow-motion> hi charlie-tca
[20:58] <knome> on
[20:58] <knome> ;)
[20:58] <slow-motion> hi knome
[20:58] <knome> o/
[21:07] <melkart> i cant install xubuntu rc in a virtualbox, using the "install xubuntu" option right away from the boot. it gets stuck at 86%
[21:17] <charlie-tca> alternate or desktop cd?
[21:18] <melkart> desktop cd
[21:18] <charlie-tca> give it enough memory?
[21:19] <charlie-tca> might be just working too, in the background. try rt-ctrl + F4 to see tty4 in vbox, it should tell you if it is stuck or doing things.
[21:19] <charlie-tca> It gives the time in the left column, which should be close to the actual minutes, at least.
[21:20] <melkart> thx, havent tried that yet
[21:21] <melkart> damn, turned that machine off :(
[21:21] <charlie-tca> Huh?
[21:22] <charlie-tca> right-ctrl+F4?
[21:22] <melkart> well... i mean, now i'll have to go through the whole installation again in order to be able to check what is written in the tty4
[21:22] <slow-motion> n8
[21:22] <charlie-tca> right-ctrl should be your host key, it replaces ctrl+alt in vbox
[21:23] <melkart> hm... the screenblanker switches on at about that time, when installation is 86% through
[21:23] <charlie-tca> which cd, 64 or 38?
[21:23] <charlie-tca> 386?
[21:23] <melkart> (i am installing ubuntu in a vbox right now, and this just happened)
[21:23] <melkart> 386
[21:23] <charlie-tca> I will run here and see. Xubuntu or ubuntu?
[21:24] <LiquidRain> What host and vbox version?
[21:24] <charlie-tca> I never had screensaver kick in, I usually move the mouse every couple minutes to keep it from happening
[21:24] <melkart> well, it got stuck with xubuntu. with ubuntu i tried out some daily builds and it always worked... and now it's 90% through and still works so i guess that with ubuntu it works fine
[21:24] <melkart> vbox 2.20 directly from sun
[21:24] <melkart> alsa sound driver. 512 MB main memory, 12 MB graphics memory, no 3d acceleration
[21:24] <melkart> host: debian lenny
[21:25] <charlie-tca> I use the same things, with 3d, host: Jaunty
[21:25] <melkart> german/deutsch localisation. and i chose "xubuntu installieren" directly from boot. and chose "use whole hard disk (automatic)"
[21:26] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I give them 10GB hard drives
[21:26] <charlie-tca> I have not had it lock up yet
[21:26] <melkart> i see. i gave it 8 GB hard disk... with dynamic enlargement (or how it is called). not fixed size
[21:26] <charlie-tca> Well, the day I start 6 installations at once, it did.
[21:27] <charlie-tca> right, no point in a fixed size. It just takes away real drive space
[21:28] <charlie-tca> But I ran all my testing on a hardware system yesterday. I'll try it in VBox
[21:31] <charlie-tca> Yay! release candidate is here...
[21:51] <melkart> tried again... now it looks as if the error does not happen again... sorry for the false alarm
[21:52] <charlie-tca> No problem. I have it running myself, but the screensaver has not kicked in, at 82% now
[21:52] <charlie-tca> I'll play with it a little, maybe turn the time down, see if the screensaver is locking it up.
[21:54] <charlie-tca> I'm at 83%, downloading language packs, with 7 minutes remaining for the download. That might be what it was.
[21:54] <charlie-tca> Maybe it lost the connection, and that locked it up?
[21:54] <melkart> yes, maybe
[21:55] <charlie-tca> Thanks for letting us know. It is something to watch for
[21:56] <melkart> are you a xubuntu developer?
[21:56] <charlie-tca> No, just the QA and testing
[21:56] <charlie-tca> lead
[21:56] <melkart> i see. thank you for your efforts
[21:57] <charlie-tca> you're welcome. I hate things going wrong when I think they shouldn't.
[22:19] <ricochet> i have a question for everyone.. i have a dell mini 9 with xubuntu jaunty on it.. and i dont think the wired network coonnection works.. the wireless works perfectly
[22:19] <ricochet> any ideas?
[23:40] <Kangarooo> i shared a foder in xubuntu and cant copy file from other pc to that folder thrue network ...
[23:41] <davidx> hello folks..just installed xubuntu on my rig and was wondering if i could network with my Mac?
[23:42] <davidx> i remember when i used regular Ubuntu, i was able to di it(although it was a pin)
[23:45] <davidx> anyone?
[23:47] <charlie-tca> Kangarooo: what kind of network connection?