[00:06] it is actually wrong to say ubuntu and xubuntu are different *distros*. they aren't. xubuntu is just a "flavor" of ubuntu. [00:07] the xubuntu team basically has to maintain only the xfce packages and anything else that xubuntu brings in to ubuntu [00:08] on distrowatch they are listed seperately [00:08] that is a way less than having completely your own distro [00:08] Sniper606, true, but they really aren't different *distros* [00:08] thats what was i see it too [00:08] *way [00:08] err [00:08] Sniper606, if you have problems with the ubuntu distro, you have it in xubuntu as well [00:09] thats the way i see it too [00:09] (if it's not gnome/some other non-xubuntu app specific) [00:45] Is there any batch file converter that you know of that will convert unprotected wma's to mp3? [00:46] I have 300+ songs and only about 20 are mp3 but I am moving to something that doesn't support wma anymore [00:47] a program for windows would work but is not prefered (xubu is much faster on this machine) [01:21] Hey did anybody answer my question (Batch music converter)? I left for 5 mins and this stupid computer restarted itself [01:22] SML1226, I'm sure there is something [01:22] If not for mp3, for ogg [01:23] ok I just want to get rid of the complication caused by wma [01:23] I'll look around. Just wondering if anybody could recomend one [02:26] Hello! I was wondering if anyone could help me.... I have googled my problem... found it, but am all confused! (i'm a windows refugee!) [02:26] Just installed xubuntu using wubi and installation went fine (4th time around) [02:26] then when i try to boot it first dropps me to shell! [02:26] (how cheeky) [02:27] !ask : monskee [02:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about ask : monskee [02:27] !with ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx does not exist [02:27] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:28] anyone know where I might find some help? (is this the right place?) [02:29] u wanted 2 partitions or full partition with xubuntu? [02:29] wubi installs can easily be upset unfortunately [02:30] yeah they're like a crying child [02:30] urm [02:30] just trying xubuntu out [02:30] for my uncle [02:30] so have installed xubuntu on windows [02:31] urm dual partition is that? [02:31] stupid windows [02:31] better download 9.04 beta http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.04/beta/ and rip to disk in CD-RW so later u can use it again i want to try other distros :) [02:32] i installed dual boot but not using window anymore so soon ill make full install [02:33] grrr no cd writing here i'm afraid - it's the philippines [02:35] ouh and i recoomend using EXT4 its faster :) on install step take manual and make one table / all but leave amount same as ram and make it as swap- [02:35] ? you can write as many xubuntu and other linux as much as u want its free [02:36] in philipines there are no Cd recorders or linux is forbiden? philipines like state in usa? [02:37] lol no it's not forbidden - just i'm on holiday and they haven't got a cd-writer connected to the internet for miles :) [02:37] it's a country [02:38] wow its near china.. hey cool :) [02:38] im in Latvia :) [02:38] :) [02:38] i'm from england [02:38] (you'll know where THAT is :) [02:39] so u can go to internet cafe and download and write [02:39] yes :) [02:39] don't have the caaaash [02:39] or the tiiiiime [02:40] is it a complicated problem? [02:40] that i need to get a live cd for? [02:40] (cos then he'll just have to stick with stupid slow xp [02:40] ) [02:40] if i type 'exit' in the boot shell wotzit then i get through to xubuntu... [02:40] its really big price in philipines? i should check it out first on pictures... well but if installation pc dont have internet you wont have updates so better stable version 8.10 [02:40] but i think no sound [02:41] it does! [02:41] i'm on installation pc now! [02:41] this is 8.10 [02:43] if its new computer and it allows install from usb make usb installation check !google:usb xubuntu bootable. how u like in philipines? [02:43] tried that 1st [02:43] can't boot [02:43] from usb [02:43] love it [02:43] it's really hot [02:43] andi got a basketball kit made for me! [02:45] meet neighbors make marketing about xubuntu - fast & free and rip cd there ;) [02:48] monskee: there is ubuntu LoCo team there also check #ubuntu-ph and [02:52] monskee: there in PH are internetcafes with ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572112 [02:52] oh cool [02:54] go to /j #ubuntu-ph [02:55] thx [04:05] how can i take a screenshot? [04:10] accessories > screenshot? 9.04 [04:10] kromar: prnt scrn key [04:11] when i use the key i cant paste it in gimp... [04:12] so i assume it doesent take one [05:10] my filemanager in xubuntu has crashed (not responding) how do i force close it? [06:48] can i bind the windows key on my keyboard to the applications menu? [06:48] like windows does? [07:49] MTec007, command is xfce4-popup-menu [07:56] lukinfore, i can set the shortcut and it is set as Super+Super_L but it wont work when i go to use it. [08:09] MTec007, Super+Super_L? I belive, on standard keyboards, there is separate Menu key, first after right super, on mine. But however maybe mentioned keystroke had been already binded for something? [08:09] and it captured before use for menu popup [08:13] or, what version do xfce do you have? [08:13] is that command works just from terminal? [08:13] *of xfce [09:13] lukinfore, is there any way to tell if or what binded the keystroke and how i can unset it possibly? [09:15] MTec007_, not sure [09:15] i dont think i have a right super, im on a laptop but i do have the infamous 'right click menu' key [09:16] one that comes to mind what could capture key before xfce is compiz [09:16] maybe with more searching ill find an answer [09:16] maybe xev, could tell you smth useful [09:17] or not [09:17] so you have xfce4-popup-menu working from terminal? [09:18] yes [09:18] but other keybinding work? [09:18] control esc, the default [09:19] didnt test others [09:19] can i post the xev here? or maybe in a pmsg? [09:19] well, i'm not skilled enough to grab info from [09:19] ok [09:22] by the looks of the ctl+esc compared to the super+super_l nothing is grabbing it away from the command [09:25] oh and compiz is not installed, fyi [09:25] not exactly sure what that is though [09:37] found answer, bug 249945 in launchpad fixed in latest relase of Jaunty Jackalope (posted 2-14) simple fix is to edit ./config/xfce4/shortcuts/shortcut.xml and change Super+Super_L to Super_L [09:38] works great now [09:59] Would there be anything wrong with running apt-get update , in roots crontab ? [10:15] do ati drivers on xubuntu work? [11:01] Hello [11:02] I've juste updated my xubuntu and the sound stop working [11:02] because of this : [11:02] [ 176.232806] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages [11:02] and a lot of messages like this [11:03] somebody have an idea ? [11:07] yo' ! === android is now known as jussi01 [11:29] Puppet_Master, try #ubuntu if noone answers here ;) It's still morning :P [11:31] SiDi, ok thx [12:37] !release [12:37] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [12:58] is there a way quick way to configure my touchpad? === SiDi`Laptop is now known as siDi === siDi is now known as SiDi === Roonux_ is now known as Roonux [14:42] Idea. Would it bee a good thing to include Fluxbox as a secondary WM for xubuntu? [14:57] No [14:57] There is Fluxbuntu for that [15:23] hey, someone knows a good way to see samba shares? [15:29] Anyone know of an Application which makes me capable of syncing my PDA (windows 5 mobile edition) with an calender on my xubuntu PC? [15:38] Slonkie: have you looked at "multisync" [15:39] Nope, but i'll see if it works, thanks. [15:39] There is also "gnome-pilot" for Palm [15:40] Well mines a HP iPAQ, but thanks ;). [15:41] multisync might work, then. It handles several different brands [16:12] I just upgraded from Hardy to INtrepid and now my WiFi don't go :( I can see 'wifi0' in the output of ifconfig but in xfce there is no network control indicator [16:40] There is no network-manager applet? [18:23] Hello. Are keyboard repeat rate settings broken in Xubuntu 9.04 beta? (fully updated) I am trying to change them to no effect and I can't find any bugs about it on Launchpad. [18:25] hey guys i have a dell mini 9 and a Kodak Zi6, when i take 720p @ 60fps and pop the SD into the mini, when i try to play the videos its extremely choppy and the video often stops while the audio continues [18:25] i am running jaunty [18:25] ricochet: a mini 9 is likely not powerful enough to play 720p playback [18:25] ahh really? so its just the hardware? [18:25] Yep. Oh man at 60fps? [18:25] Yeah you DEFINITELY need more hardware to play that back. [18:26] hahaha damn. [18:26] You'll need a reasonably powerful laptop/desktop, at least a 2GHz Core 2 Duo/Athlon X2 I'd say [18:26] the Mini 9 has a really weak little Intel Atom chip. no way it'd keep up. [18:26] Kodak Zi6! damn it to hell. [18:27] so wait, why can the Zi6 play it back? [18:27] well [18:27] nevermind that was a dumb question [18:27] it has dedicated MPEG chips [18:27] yeah, i realized that after i said it [18:27] < doesnt think before he speaks [18:27] are you running Xubuntu Jaunty? [18:28] yep [18:28] Can you check something for me? [18:28] yep [18:28] Go into the XFCE Keyboard settings and change your delay/repeat rate and test it [18:28] is it going to mess up my computer? [18:28] They don't change for me, it just uses whatever the system default is. [18:28] nope, just remember what the repeat/delay values are if you want to reset it :) [18:29] repeat delay: 500 [18:29] repeat speed: 20 [18:29] if you shorten it, and test it using the test box, does it change anything? [18:29] or does it stay the same? [18:30] if I change the settings on mine, the behaviour does not change at all. changing the settings won't work and I might have to file a bug on it. [18:31] i am not sure what its supposed to change [18:31] it doesnt look much different [18:31] hold down a key on your keyboard [18:31] "Delay" changes the amount of time till the key starts repeating [18:31] and "Rate" changes how fast the key repeats [18:31] if nothing is changing when you move the sliders than this is indeed a bug [18:32] ok the repeat speed works [18:32] i dont think the repeat delay does [18:32] hmm [18:33] yup, that's the bug alright... [18:35] am i going to have to reinstall everything when the final release comes? [18:35] my experience has been "no" [18:36] you'll just see a lot less updates to packages all of a sudden :) [18:36] haha yeah it works for now [18:37] i am leaving the country in a few weeks [18:37] The updates that were sent out to my Xubuntu (jaunty) last night, turned my Xubuntu machine into a Gnome DM...has this been a popular topic today? [18:37] acmeinc: couldn't tell you, just got in. I am fully updated and did not have any issues though. [18:37] haha i havent done the updates yet [18:38] i posted to the forum...there is a screen shot there...would you like the link? [18:38] acmeinc: I don't think I'd be capable of helping, I'm just a regular user here. :) [18:38] but sure, link away [18:38] and I just doublechecked, I'm fully updated and no problems. [18:38] acmeinc: you mean Xfce went away and gnome was installed instead? [18:39] Might log out and select Xfce session from the login options [18:39] odd...Charlie: no i normally run xubuntu, and last nite there was an update available, i installed, and restarted (it asked me to restart), when my machine came back up, it was Gnome, rather than xfce, and there were some errors [18:40] I haven't seen that. and I am fully up to date [18:40] Might be some dep quirk since both use gdm [18:40] Did you have only xubuntu on there? [18:40] yep [18:40] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1127373 [18:41] The only thing in that image is the gnome error message? [18:42] if someone else can confirm that changing the keyboard repeat delay doesn't work in Xubuntu, I'll go ahead and file a bug. [18:42] Since Xubuntu uses xfce fast user switcher, that is probably a good question it asked [18:42] i know...after a few restarts..i decided to click "delete"...i restarted once more, and no dice [18:43] did you select "xfce session"? [18:43] no login window...let me try.... [18:44] You should get a gdm login window. Are you auto-logging in to the desktop, then? [18:46] Ok. charlie, I'm now in xfce, however my settings are all wrong, and nothing looks how it used to....furthermore, i noticed in the session drop down a selction of xclient script...i bet the update messed with my xclient script, as that seemed to be the default setting [18:47] hmmm, wonder how long you haven't been booting into xfce? [18:47] i reboot every day...so it was definately the update that changed something [18:48] ...either way i have to go to work [18:48] good luck [18:48] i ahve a hot swap drive which will p0ut me back to my old settings [18:48] thx for the help [18:49] you are welcome [18:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/362455 [18:51] if someone would be so kind as to confirm/not confirm the bug in comments I'd appreciate it [18:51] let me see, my fresh install just finished [18:52] thanks [18:54] repeat speed changes; delay does not seem too [18:54] Yep, that's the bug alright. So I'm not going crazy, great. :) [18:58] not only that but also reported to xfce.bugzilla.org [18:59] ohh yeah I see that [18:59] looks like someone just made a type in the code and XFCE hasn't fixed it [19:00] I'm going to add to that report and link it to launchpad [19:03] okay, done [19:03] thanks! [19:03] You are welcome [19:06] charlie-tca, you too. [19:06] what, me too? [19:06] charlie-tca, you are welcome here as well. [19:06] * charlie-tca did not [19:07] charlie-tca, just ping me a few days before coming, i'll prepare a meal for you [19:07] okay, great! [19:07] thanks [19:31] where can i find a good guide on installing software from source [19:32] !build | cjones [19:32] cjones: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [19:33] knomw thanks [19:36] !cookie [19:36] Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [19:36] !coffee [19:36] coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java [19:36] lol [19:37] * genii decides to have one [19:38] one cookie or one coffee? [19:39] or both [19:39] is there a way to make a message box popup in GUI from the command-line? [19:39] !coffee [19:39] coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java [19:39] It is called zenity [19:39] !zenity [19:40] Sorry, I don't know anything about zenity [19:40] !info zenity [19:40] zenity (source: zenity): Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.24.0-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1840 kB, installed size 4924 kB [19:40] roadrunner1, notify-send can send notifications, and with notify-osd if you set timeout to 0 it'll display a popup instead [19:40] cool [19:40] or just use zenity [19:45] Does anyone else use Quod Libet? It does not seem to save its minimized window state when closed and re-opened. (a regression) Is this QL's fault or XFCE's? [19:46] then again it might be the Tray Icon plugin not working correctly [19:47] yeah that appears to be it. [20:11] !kitten [20:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about kitten [20:11] pff [20:12] Kitten is a traditional knomish meal. It is best served hot in a chilisauce. [20:17] lol [20:17] and I thought it was the flat thing left when the truck pulled out [20:27] zenity worked great [20:55] hi [20:58] Hello, slow-motion [20:58] sl [20:58] ow [20:58] mo [20:58] ti [20:58] hi charlie-tca [20:58] on [20:58] ;) [20:58] hi knome [20:58] o/ [21:07] i cant install xubuntu rc in a virtualbox, using the "install xubuntu" option right away from the boot. it gets stuck at 86% [21:17] alternate or desktop cd? [21:18] desktop cd [21:18] give it enough memory? [21:19] might be just working too, in the background. try rt-ctrl + F4 to see tty4 in vbox, it should tell you if it is stuck or doing things. [21:19] It gives the time in the left column, which should be close to the actual minutes, at least. [21:20] thx, havent tried that yet [21:21] damn, turned that machine off :( [21:21] Huh? [21:22] right-ctrl+F4? [21:22] well... i mean, now i'll have to go through the whole installation again in order to be able to check what is written in the tty4 [21:22] n8 [21:22] right-ctrl should be your host key, it replaces ctrl+alt in vbox [21:23] hm... the screenblanker switches on at about that time, when installation is 86% through [21:23] which cd, 64 or 38? [21:23] 386? [21:23] (i am installing ubuntu in a vbox right now, and this just happened) [21:23] 386 [21:23] I will run here and see. Xubuntu or ubuntu? [21:24] What host and vbox version? [21:24] I never had screensaver kick in, I usually move the mouse every couple minutes to keep it from happening [21:24] well, it got stuck with xubuntu. with ubuntu i tried out some daily builds and it always worked... and now it's 90% through and still works so i guess that with ubuntu it works fine [21:24] vbox 2.20 directly from sun [21:24] alsa sound driver. 512 MB main memory, 12 MB graphics memory, no 3d acceleration [21:24] host: debian lenny [21:25] I use the same things, with 3d, host: Jaunty [21:25] german/deutsch localisation. and i chose "xubuntu installieren" directly from boot. and chose "use whole hard disk (automatic)" [21:26] Yeah, I give them 10GB hard drives [21:26] I have not had it lock up yet [21:26] i see. i gave it 8 GB hard disk... with dynamic enlargement (or how it is called). not fixed size [21:26] Well, the day I start 6 installations at once, it did. [21:27] right, no point in a fixed size. It just takes away real drive space [21:28] But I ran all my testing on a hardware system yesterday. I'll try it in VBox [21:31] Yay! release candidate is here... [21:51] tried again... now it looks as if the error does not happen again... sorry for the false alarm [21:52] No problem. I have it running myself, but the screensaver has not kicked in, at 82% now [21:52] I'll play with it a little, maybe turn the time down, see if the screensaver is locking it up. [21:54] I'm at 83%, downloading language packs, with 7 minutes remaining for the download. That might be what it was. [21:54] Maybe it lost the connection, and that locked it up? [21:54] yes, maybe [21:55] Thanks for letting us know. It is something to watch for [21:56] are you a xubuntu developer? [21:56] No, just the QA and testing [21:56] lead [21:56] i see. thank you for your efforts [21:57] you're welcome. I hate things going wrong when I think they shouldn't. [22:19] i have a question for everyone.. i have a dell mini 9 with xubuntu jaunty on it.. and i dont think the wired network coonnection works.. the wireless works perfectly [22:19] any ideas? [23:40] i shared a foder in xubuntu and cant copy file from other pc to that folder thrue network ... [23:41] hello folks..just installed xubuntu on my rig and was wondering if i could network with my Mac? [23:42] i remember when i used regular Ubuntu, i was able to di it(although it was a pin) [23:45] anyone? [23:47] Kangarooo: what kind of network connection? === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey