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ubuntupls who can help me?00:09
p_quarles!ask | ubuntu00:10
ubottuubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:10
ubuntuhow can i install yahoo messenger on kubuntu?00:11
p_quarles!kopete | ubuntu00:11
ubottuubuntu: Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin00:11
ubuntubut the webcam not work00:12
ubuntu??00:12
compilerwriterBluesKaj you know a guru in central Indiana I could talk to?00:33
compilerwriterFor that matter anyone know a good hardware guru in central Indiana I could talk to.00:34
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compilerwriterslow chat day I see01:05
lorecastersalutations!! :D anyone know where i can KLM codecs?01:06
doug_fhaha no kidding01:06
lorecasteranyone, anyone?01:09
lorecasterbueler? bueler? bueler?01:09
lorecaster:P01:09
luar_brilhanteim on kubuntu. when i insert a pen or cd it auto-appers a window suggesting thing to do with the inserted media. how do i do to desactivate that windows?01:14
luar_brilhantedoes anyone as a clue?01:14
luar_brilhantethnkx in advance01:14
psycoanyone know a plasmoid I can get that tells me the load per core on my cpu?01:18
psycoI have an AMD x301:18
triuneu kno x3's are x4's with a fault core, right?01:20
hallownamebrutal stuff, lol01:21
psycoyup01:21
psycobut x3 = higher OCs because less cores01:21
psycoand way cheaper XD01:21
psycoand its the new Phenom IIs so its super awesome fast01:21
psycoanyways, i need a multicore cpu monitor pplasmoid01:22
httpdsshi people, im having trouble trying to figure out which is the strigi client on kde4.2, anyone can help me ?01:22
DragnslcrThe System Monitor plasmoid can track each core01:22
psycowoooooow01:24
psycoi fail01:24
psycothanks Dragnslcr01:24
lorecasterno one wanna answer my q? :(01:25
lorecasterKLM codecs for ubuntu?01:25
LjLwhat is KLM?01:26
httpdssLjL: K-Lite Mega pack ... i think01:26
LjLuhm yeah, found it on google01:26
LjLnot sure why we'd want it01:27
LjLalso, it's quite clearly windows-only.01:27
httpdssLjL: very true01:27
httpdsslorecaster: try out VLC01:28
httpdssi did a really stupid question up there but had no answer ... is quicksand the answer ? or is there a more advanced solution through kio ?01:30
lorecastervlc has the 475 codecs built in?01:30
httpdsslorecaster: no, but you'll mostly find the ones you need ;)01:30
lorecasteri have a problem with many AVI's not having audio01:31
lorecasterones that clearly worked in widnows01:31
httpdsslorecaster: there are codec packages on *ubuntu but vlc covers most of my needs01:33
lorecaster*ubuntu?01:33
httpdsslorecaster: short for all ubuntu distros (kubuntu edubuntu etc etc etc)01:34
lorecasterahh, star as in wildcard01:34
lorecasterfor example, VEXILLE a 2007 anime played beautifully in windows but has no sound is is choppy in ubuntu01:36
lorecasterthought it was strange01:37
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jorge__hola01:43
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httpdssjorge__: hi ! i you have questions in spanish please do them on #kubuntu-es ;) si tenes preguntas en espanol, porfavor utiliz'a el canal #kubuntu-es .. gracias01:45
lorecastereven after downloading DivX drivers, i still get no sound. i don't get it.01:55
lorecasterand yes, sound is01:55
lorecasterON01:55
lorecaster:P01:55
lorecasterlistening to a song in rhythmbox now :(01:57
seelei upgraded from intrepid to jaunty and i can't launch any applications01:58
seeleany ideas?01:58
massimociao01:59
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flux__hello02:03
lorecastercan anyone help me on this persistant codec issue?02:22
unknown212hola02:30
lorecasterhi :)02:30
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farg4321hi how is everyone today?02:40
farg4321anyone know some stuff about kubuntu?02:43
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farg4321got a question..02:45
alex-adminвсем привет02:45
farg4321what language is that?02:45
alex-adminit is russian02:46
alex-adminHello from russia to all02:46
farg4321nice02:47
alex-adminwhy it is nice?02:48
farg4321It is fun to see another language02:48
juferscould someone please tell me which command to apply to enter the Spanish channel02:49
alex-adminUNDERSTAND. )) yes it is fan a little. ))02:49
alex-admincan somebody tell me how to register my login?02:50
juferscould someone please tell me which command to apply to enter the Spanish channel02:50
farg4321como esta02:51
alex-admini dont know...02:51
juferssomeone speak spanish02:51
farg4321como esta02:52
jufersbien y tu02:52
farg4321asi asi02:52
jufersnecesito inbresar al canal español pero no recuerdo el comando02:52
alex-adminand someone speak russian02:52
peaches!es02:52
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:52
jufersingresar02:52
farg4321i forget some of the russian... how do you say hi in russian?02:53
jufersthanks02:53
alex-adminпривет02:53
farg4321necesito i think is need al canal is channel? someone the command in espanol..?02:53
alex-adminyou can read it like privet02:54
farg4321ahhh like pronunciation "priv-et"02:54
alex-adminyes)))02:54
farg4321yack she mash...polish ithink02:55
alex-adminok...i come out for an 1 hour....ind came back02:55
farg4321how to say goodbye?02:55
Pici!es02:56
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:56
farg4321how do you say goodbye in russian?02:56
alex-adminПока  read like Po-ka02:57
farg4321then poka alex-admin02:57
alex-admingood bye02:57
farg4321:02:58
farg4321:)02:58
farg4321in the mayoria the channel? ubuntu for communication in english.. Fpr ayuda in spanish, please enter in the channel?03:00
bloodhello03:02
farg4321privet03:02
bloodevery one03:03
farg4321hi blood03:03
bloodi have't came here for a long time03:04
farg4321why not?03:05
bloodi use the xp for a time03:07
farg4321oh03:07
bloodfor some reason03:07
monahello03:07
monahello03:08
farg4321well what are you using now?03:08
monahi03:08
monahi03:08
farg4321hi mona03:08
mona=)03:08
blood<farg4321>do you compile the linux kernel03:09
farg4321no do you?03:09
bloodlearning03:10
bloodwhere are you come from?03:10
farg4321i sent message03:11
vladislawbuenas noches03:17
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farg4321muye beun03:18
vladislawpodria alguien ayudarme con un asunto de kde ?03:18
Dragnslcr!es | vladislaw03:19
ubottuvladislaw: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:19
eugen_when running many programs, can I make all them go away when I rotate to a new desktop03:27
eugen_(in compiz)03:27
yu我是ubuntu 8.10,装了kde4.2.2,与kubuntu 9.04x相比,出了9.04的特性外,有其他区别吗?03:31
zirodayHi, what has replaced kooka?03:36
zirodaynevermind, found it03:37
slicslaki have kubuntu burnt to a disk and need to do some paritioning03:39
slicslakis there a partition manager present?03:39
Dragnslcrgparted should be on there03:39
slicslakDragnslcr, that's what thought, but it doesn't seem to be.  at least it's not in the run path.03:40
slicslakwhat path do you have it in?03:40
DragnslcrDid you check Adept to make sure it's installed?03:41
slicslaki'm on the livecd03:41
DragnslcrOkay03:41
eugenhey,..how can I synchronize the kde multi desktop feature with the compiz one?03:49
slicslakarg, i'm getting a 404 not found [ip: 91.189.88.40 80] when trying to install gparted03:49
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alex-adminhi all04:02
holyscottIs it a know bug that it is next to impossible to get samba working in kubuntu (9.04 RC)04:03
holyscott?04:03
alex-admini do not know. i work in kubuntu 1-st day04:04
holyscottI thought I had messed up something, but it don't work on a clean RC upgrade, and I did find a launchpad bug on it.04:05
zaapiel-mobiledudes04:09
zaapiel-mobile9.04 is awesome04:09
zaapiel-mobilew00t04:09
triunedont u mean kde 4.2?04:10
triunebeen using it for 2 months in 8.10 :D04:10
ajibarrahi all04:12
ajibarrai have a problem...who can helps me?04:15
zaapiel-mobilejust ask it04:15
zaapiel-mobileand someone will help if they can04:16
ajibarraok04:17
ajibarrai connect to microsoft vpn with kvpnc but i must run this program as root, later root overwrites my .ICEAuthority file and then i cant start kde, i must chown this file04:18
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ajibarrai googled that and i read that i can run kvpnc with kdesudo and this dont overwrite the file but if i run kdesudo i cant connect to vpn04:19
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kev_\nick skittlelinux1804:35
kev_ooops04:35
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skittlelinux18wrong slash lol04:35
skittlelinux18hey guys i have a quick question04:35
zerothisAnybody know how to get a Lexmark X4530m working with Linux (scan and print, usb or wireless)?04:37
skittlelinux18i just downloaded the latest virtualbox-ose .deb file. when i tried to install it, i got an error message telling me: "dependency not satisfiable: libqt4-network" well the problem is that i cannot find that package in apt-get or adept manager... even after updating packages. anyone know where i can get it?04:38
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zerothisskittlelinux18: kev_: synaptic reports that its in us.archive.ubuntu.com/main (intrepid)04:53
kev_yeah, i had to enable unsupported updates to get it.04:54
kev_thanks, though zerothis04:54
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cherattobuenas05:03
mbrushcan anyone help me troubleshoot a no sound issue?05:43
mbrushI'm running ubuntu 8.10 and KDE from the repositories.  Is there a separate package besides ALSA that I need in KDE to make this work?05:44
mbrushIf it helps I have "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)"05:46
mbrushsound works fine if I reboot into my Gnome installation05:47
mbrushok, well thanks anyway, I'll just boot into my other partition until the next release ... cheers05:49
eugenhey,..how can I synchronize the kde multi desktop feature with the compiz one?05:56
pteagueanybody know why i can't get vlc out of fullscreen mode?06:11
pteaguenm, think i got it06:11
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k1ensay , if i want to run konqueror in chinese on an english session, which pacakage do i need?07:05
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yaa_gook.i38607:06
raphinkk1en: afaik, you can only change the language of the whole KDE session, not of one program07:06
raphinkand in this case, you need kde-i18n-zhcn or kde-i18n-zhtw07:07
raphinkwhether you want simplified or traditional chinese07:07
k1enraphink, the thing is i'm running konqueror on gnome07:07
raphinkah ok07:07
raphinkwell then you can install this07:07
raphinkor rather language-pack-kde-zh07:07
k1enso i do need the whole langauge pack then.,...07:07
raphinkand then launch KDE's system settings, set the language you want by default07:07
raphinkk1en: yes07:08
raphinkbut it's not so big07:08
k1eni dont think i have kde langauge setting in gnome07:08
raphinkit's just translation files07:08
raphinkk1en: try the command line : systemsettings07:08
xileAnyone alive?07:30
bazhangsurely07:30
xileHi.07:31
ByronI was attempting to get my built-in microphone to work, but now I lost audio.07:31
ByronI installed the alsa driver from the homepage as instructed, rebooted and now I don't have in/out audio.07:32
xileA lot of people.07:34
almaraxhi07:39
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asssssdasdffanyone here07:46
Kasm279i am07:46
asssssdasdffgood07:46
asssssdasdffsee you07:46
Kasm279ok, how do i update to KDE 4.2?07:46
Kasm279!KDE 4.207:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about KDE 4.207:47
Kasm279!KDE07:47
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde407:47
Kasm279!KDE407:47
ubottuKDE 4.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2 - Support in #kubuntu07:47
bloodi use kubuntu8.0408:01
k0pphey guys.. i've got an onboard sound card, and a PCI sound card.. I'm wanting to use the PCI card for playing sound from music/movies etc.. and the onboard one for my headset for conferencing and such.. i cant figure out how to do this08:01
k0ppanyone have any ideas?08:02
bloodwitch kde is used ?08:02
k0ppblood, 3.508:02
bloodthanks08:02
k0ppsure08:02
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pktis there a way to command konqueror to open a url in the existing window/tab from command line ?09:01
pkt(e.g., through D-Bus)09:01
pktthere is a currentURL property but it is readonly09:01
pktalternatively, could this be done with firefox?09:02
hunter_hi folks, who has experiences with nmap? i have a littel problem and i am lost... nmap..09:11
mp_hey, can someone give me a hint, I want to assign a keyboard-shortcut to change workspaces (like Ctrl+Alt+Left)09:13
mp_but can't figure out where and how09:13
mp_hunter_: what's the problem?09:14
hunter_the problem is that when i scan an ip, i should can with the right commands ( nmap -sV ) also the mac address. but it isnt and now i have the feeling that there is something not straight setup with nmap, maybe.. i am just guessing now.09:16
hunter_but strange.. also with other commands, it doesn gave the mac..09:16
mp_hunter_: the ip address you are scanning, is it in the same subnet or do you have any routers between it?09:20
hunter_wir können auch deutsch. ist ein anderes sub09:21
hunter_ich experimentiere seit tagen und bekomme keinen reim darauf. hab auch verscuht mich selbst zu scannen, auch ohne ergebniss09:22
zorglu_q. how to make a usb key from a iso image ?09:24
bazhanghunter_, english here, german in #ubuntu-de or #kubuntu-de09:24
bazhangzorglu_, which version of ubuntu09:24
zorglu_bazhang: 9?0409:24
bazhangzorglu_, #ubuntu+1 for that09:24
zorglu_arf09:24
zorglu_bazhang: ok 8.10 then09:25
bazhangzorglu_, what does uname -a say09:25
hunter_ok, sry09:25
zorglu_bazhang: ?09:25
zorglu_!usb09:25
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:26
bazhangzorglu_, in a terminal09:26
zorglu_there! :)09:26
zorglu_bazhang: it did the job. thanks but play less hot potatoes09:31
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quantumhi there09:57
quantumI am looking for a plasmoid to show cpu and ram usage like the one on windows vista. ... can anybody tell me ?09:57
hunter_KSystemLog for linux10:00
archibald#join ubuntu-fr10:10
ct529anyone who knows where to find good linux based NAS devices?10:11
mp_depends on what you want to do with it, ct52910:12
IdhanI have two dvd units, I have insert a dvd in one of them, how can I mount the dvd?10:12
CQhello, I have a wlan with a hidden SSID which is set to autoconnect, but it never connects, the last lien in /var/log/messages is ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready  ... any ideas?10:16
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CQhow can I manually connecto to a hidden wlan with hidden SSID?10:22
ct529mp_: well, storage10:22
eagles0513875mu-tu: that is really strange bro10:24
Idhanhow can I tell my dvdplayer to search in my second dvd unit ??10:28
Idhanto play a DVD10:29
ct529mp_: what else do you want to do with a NAS?10:32
mp_something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2 ;)10:33
ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:40
k1ensay , how do i make konqueror respond to double click instead of one click10:40
k1en?10:40
ActionParsnipk1en: KMenu > System Tools > Mouse10:41
Idhank1en: systemsettings-> mouse settings10:41
ActionParsnipk1en: you can choose single click or double click to open10:42
k1enthe thing is im running konqueror on gnome10:42
ActionParsnipk1en: then it will be in your gnome settings thingy10:43
ct529mp_: yes, but it is still a storage device .... I would need somethingexpandable, able to go up to some TB, with a business warranty .... and reasonably cost effective (got a look at transtec and they start at unreasonable prices)10:43
ActionParsnipk1en: open Nautilus file browser, click Edit/Preferences/Behavior, and the option for single click is in there. Maybe it will permeate to konqueror too10:44
k1enActionParsnip, nautilus is okay, im installing "systemsettings" maybe that will solve it10:44
ActionParsnipk1en: yeah that would make sense10:45
Douglas_Ea pentium III is an i386 right?10:46
k1enActionParsnip, not enough options in that, maybe i need to install kde10:46
Douglas_Eklen what are you trying to do?10:47
altrortla#openoffice10:48
Douglas_Ealtrortla: you need to have a slashJoin before that10:48
altrortlafind openoffice10:48
altrortlaDouglas_E: eh?10:49
altrortlaDouglas_E: explane me better10:49
Douglas_Eif you want to join the openoffice channel than you need to have a /join10:49
Douglas_Eand then the channel name with the # before it.10:49
ActionParsnipaltrortla: try /join #openoffice.org10:50
altrortlaDouglas_E: azz... to reduce Spam?10:50
altrortlaok...10:50
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altrortla! find | openoffice10:51
ubottuopenoffice: Search for a package or a file: !find <term/file>10:51
MarkieMark1!find openoffice | altrortla10:55
ubottualtrortla: Found: dictionaries-common, hunspell-de-at, hunspell-de-ch, hunspell-de-de, hunspell-eu-es (and 204 others)10:55
altrortlathank you to everybody ... i'm very satisfied... :-)10:57
varihello10:57
ActionParsniphi11:00
drbobbhey, if the xserver crashes, isn't kdm supposed to try to restart it? at least a few times, before giving up?11:05
drbobbor is there some config option to control that?11:06
drbobbi'm sure it did that on kde3, hmm11:08
ActionParsnipdrbobb: not sure of that, check you xorg log to see whats going on11:12
drbobbActionParsnip: i did that, the xserver is crashing on logout due to some memory management issues11:14
drbobbwhat i'm wondering about is why doesn't kdm restart it11:14
ActionParsnipdrbobb: not sure, i'd log a bug11:14
ActionParsnipdrbobb: or see if its a known bug11:15
drbobbon hardy, when some app crashes the xserver, i get back to the login screen11:15
drbobbok maybe i'm not being clear11:16
drbobbthe xserver crashing is in my case a known bug (that I doubt will be fixed)11:17
ActionParsnipdrbobb: if it an x server bug i'd think it would11:19
drbobbit's a bug with the sis video driver I think11:19
mu-tuI just installed kubuntu and i have no sound! can someone help?11:19
drbobband nobody seems to be working on that driver any more11:19
ActionParsnipmu-tu: can you give the output of  lspci | grep -i audio11:21
mu-tuIntel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)11:21
ActionParsnip!intelhda11:22
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto11:22
drbobbok to answer myself: yes there are options in kdmrc to control restarting the xserver, so maybe I can work around this issue (somewhat)11:22
ActionParsnipdrbobb: i'd go with the no one is working on the driver statement but i could be wrong11:27
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francyki conosce un programma per la gestione dei MIDI?11:39
MarkieMark1!it | francy11:41
ubottufrancy: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)11:41
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francytnk11:41
donG_although u can find energyXT11:42
drbobbActionParsnip: i believe there never was more than 1 person working on the sis video driver, and he lost interest iiuc11:42
ActionParsnipdrbobb: always handy11:42
drbobbthere really ought to be a page somewhere with a big fat warning: Linux users, do NOT EVER buy a laptop with SiS video11:43
ActionParsnipdrbobb: what lappy is it?11:44
drbobbacer aspire 500211:44
drbobbok gotta run11:44
ActionParsnipgood ol acer11:44
ActionParsnipNOT11:47
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vmtHello all :) Im looking for a webbased project management software with documentation and document upload. Someone knows good stuff?12:19
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barry_salut lex12:31
bazhang!fr12:36
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr12:36
chfwiggumhi all! why does it say permission denied when i try to sudo zcat > my usb drive? tia12:45
CQis it mounted read-only?12:53
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compilerwriterSo what would be a good resource to tell me how to hook up an internal hard drive in *nix?14:07
SlimeyPete!mount14:08
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or !QtParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter14:08
zirodayHi, for some reason I have my opened apps on shutdown started by defualt on bootup. How do I disable that?14:08
koleeschhello14:11
koleeschi need some help with my kde14:11
BluesKajHowdy all14:12
zirodayHi, for some reason I have my opened apps on shutdown started by defualt on bootup. How do I disable that?14:13
EagleScreen!ask | koleesch14:13
ubottukoleesch: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:13
koleeschok14:13
koleeschthe sudo dialogs in kde dont' want my password14:14
Dragnslcrziroday- System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager14:14
zirodayDragnslcr: thanks14:14
koleeschi've installed ubuntu jaunty and then i've installed kde14:14
CirosKoleesch: sudo -s14:15
EagleScreenkoleesch: how did you install KDE?14:15
EagleScreenkoleesch: you masu install kubuntu-desktop14:15
Cirosthat will wheel you to root.14:15
koleeschwith synaptic and the package kubuntu-desktop14:15
koleeschciros: that doesn't work14:16
EagleScreenkoleesch: is KDE asking for password using KDESu or kdesudo?14:17
koleeschkdeSudo14:17
EagleScreenand does sudo works ina terminal?14:18
koleeschyes in the terminal sudo works14:18
wimpieshi all, which version of Qt is available for intrepid kubuntu ?14:18
EagleScreenwimpies: http://packages.ubuntu.com14:19
koleeschEagleScreen: the command in the dialog is qt-language-selector --mode install14:19
EagleScreenlibqt4 4.4.3-0ubuntu1.2 in intrepid-updates14:19
ghostcubewimpies: 4.5 in ppa as i remember correct14:20
EagleScreenkoleesch: is it failing only for that command?14:20
EagleScreenkoleesch: can you run kdesudo synaptic (for instance) in a terminal?14:21
wimpiesghostcube : what is ppa ? ... I need the qt4.5 libs (because of some 4.4.3 bugs)14:21
bazhang!ppa14:21
ubottuWith Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.14:21
EagleScreenwimpies: KDE 4.5 also have bugs, and some rendering glitches14:22
wimpiesyes but those do not bother me  ... the ones in 4.4.3 break my app :(14:22
koleeschEagleScreen: yes i can run kdesudo synaptic, but i get the message: /var/tmp/kde-cache-username is owned by 1000 instead of 014:23
koleeschEagleScreen: and the same message for directory /tmp/kde-username14:24
wimpiesghostcube : do you think that I can replace 4.4.3 qt libs with 4.5 libs in intrepid or do you think i need to run time independently ?14:24
ghostcubewimpies: iam checking right now14:24
EagleScreenwimpies: you may can install qt 4.5 from any ppa in Intrepid, but it may cause some dependence problems with another packages, and it could break some application in Intrepid14:24
EagleScreenwimpies: note that Kubuntu Jaunty is going to be released in a week, and it becomes with Qt 4.5 well integrated, or you can download the RC version if you cannot wait14:25
wimpieseaglescreen : For my desktop PC and laptop i will wait for jaunty.  However I have this eee-701 I want to use with easypeasy (formerly eee-ubuntu) and that runs intrepid.  So I am checking my options14:27
ghostcubewimpies: is this intrepid ?14:30
ghostcubehttps://launchpad.net/~jefferai/+archive/ppa14:30
ghostcubecheck this14:30
ghostcubeqt 4.5 rc114:30
ghostcubebut i cant tell you if this works14:30
wimpiesThx ghostcube14:33
ghostcubenp14:33
ZaurakBonsoir14:34
ghostcubesalut14:34
ZaurakJe suis pas sur de m'adresser au bon endroit : Je voudrais savoir si un bug graphique avec le LiveCD pour Kubuntu_AMD64 pourrait disparaitre avec GNOME ou encore à l'install14:36
bazhang!fr14:36
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr14:36
ZaurakOK, sorry14:36
ghostcubeanyone has an ppa with 180.44 for me14:42
ghostcubeon intrepid14:42
ghostcubei dont find any useful14:42
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kahi14:54
kaI use kubuntu 8.20. I wonder how can I see localhost on a virtual machine set up in virtualbox installed with ubuntu server and lamp from the host machine?14:56
bazhangka 8.10?14:56
kaI believe so. 6 days left so...14:57
kaI'll wait14:57
bazhangka 8.10 or beta 9.0414:57
kaI use kubuntu 8.10 on my host machine14:58
vlada_hi14:58
bazhangka, and your kubuntu has a ubuntu virtualbox running on top of it with a server?14:59
kajupp14:59
kathats yes14:59
bazhangka, any reason for this? instead of just having lamp on kubuntu itself?15:00
vlada_where is linuxsampler package? I can't find it at all. Is it because being GPL+exception licenced?15:00
vlada_if so, where can I find it?15:00
kaI want it to easily be movable to other hardware without losing downtime...15:00
bazhangvlada_, what is that?15:00
vlada_(kubuntu newbie, but not linux newbie)15:01
vlada_bazhang: it's audio application15:01
bazhang!info linuxsampler15:01
ubottuPackage linuxsampler does not exist in intrepid15:01
kaI found some mention of a kernelmodule called vboxnetflt do I have to install this?15:02
bazhangvlada_, to do what exactly15:02
vlada_it is interpreting midi data using gigs sampler files15:02
vlada_!info qsampler15:03
ubottuqsampler (source: qsampler): LinuxSampler GUI frontend based on the Qt toolkit. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.2-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 172 kB, installed size 528 kB15:03
bazhang!info ardour15:03
ubottuardour (source: ardour): digital audio workstation (graphical gtk2 interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5-0ubuntu4 (intrepid), package size 5681 kB, installed size 16676 kB15:03
vlada_bazhang: you see what I'm talking about..?15:04
vlada_!info liblscp15:04
ubottuPackage liblscp does not exist in intrepid15:04
kaHm I think I found the solution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox15:04
vlada_!info liblscp215:04
ubottuliblscp2 (source: liblscp): LinuxSampler Control Protocol wrapper library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0.1 (intrepid), package size 28 kB, installed size 116 kB15:04
vlada_bazhang: everything is there except linuxsampler itself, which is most important application15:05
bazhangvlada_, and what happens when you install qsampler? does it not pull in linuxsampler?15:07
vlada_bazhang: nope15:07
* vlada_ wanders how strange it sounds when "ubuntu lefts kubuntu"? :)15:08
vlada_bbl15:10
vlada_bazhang: thank you for helping15:10
vlada_if you find some info, please leave me comment here15:10
bazhangvlada_, sorry not to know more15:11
ubuntu_qt 4.5.0 has rendering problems for me15:13
koleeschkdesudo don't want my password15:20
koleeschcan anyone help me15:20
BluesKajkoleesch , are you using the run command or the terminal ?15:26
koleeschno, i want to change some repositories in packagekit15:27
koleeschand  my password don't fit15:27
BluesKajchange your repositories in adept15:28
BluesKajor your sources.list15:28
BluesKaj!repositories15:29
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories15:29
koleeschi use jaunty and i don't have installed adept15:30
koleeschmy problem is the my kdesudo login won't work for all kde application that need this15:30
BluesKajyes you do , it's the main package manager15:30
BluesKajdefault aamof15:30
BluesKajbbl15:31
koleeschgksu doesn't work too15:31
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genii-aroundkdesudo won't fork for GTK apps and gksu won't work for KDE apps. Thats just how it is15:32
eugenhey I'm trying to install lives, but I'm getting this were when I do ./configure  "configure: error: Cannot find pkg-config, make sure it is installed and in your PATH"15:33
SlimeyPeteeugen: did you install build-essential?15:34
eugenprobably not...15:34
SlimeyPetetry it15:34
SlimeyPeteit might solve that problem15:34
eugenSlimey: I get this now:  configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0) were not met:15:41
eugen how do I install gtk?15:41
genii-aroundeugen: Maybe ask about gtk stuff in #ubuntu15:44
orzelhello. I have a computer which was updated from 8.04 to 8.10 (kde3 to kde4), and there's no more the 'adept notifier'. "apt-get install adept-notifier" doesn't work neither.. how is this supposed to work now ? if ever..15:45
micm92hi15:47
ign0ramusHey all.15:48
ign0ramusI never really took notice to this, but I'm at work on a Windows machine... When you receive attachments or inline pictures in email in Kubuntu, are the pictures significantly blurrier than if you were to open the same mail in Kubuntu?15:49
ign0ramusThis is true for inline pictures/attachments in gmail, hotmail, and yahoo...15:50
ign0ramus^ Woops.  I meant they are blurry in Kubuntu, but crystal clear in Windows.  Sorry.15:51
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ign0ramusSame problem as here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823027  I guess I'll try the suggestion when I get home.15:54
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chris__hello, I have a nubi question16:00
chris__how do I switch from Gnome to KDE?  It's installed, but I can't find where to make that selection.16:00
eugenhey how can I install mlt in kubuntu?16:00
DragnslcrOn the login screen16:00
eugenI need to isntall the latest version, I dont know how16:00
chris__So, I have to log out, then log back in?16:01
Dragnslcrchris__- There should be a menu option for session type16:01
eugeni have 0.3.4 , and I need 0.3.816:01
DragnslcrYeah16:01
chris__Okay, I'm looking16:02
chris__I'm going to try to restart session.  Thank you for your help.16:06
ByronI installed the alsa driver from the homepage as instructed to have my built-in microphone working, but when I rebooted, I don't have audio or microphone working.16:07
ByronI'm on the Acer Aspire One16:08
ByronAny help in resolving this issue is greatly appreciated.16:10
Byron!audio16:15
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP316:15
BluesKajByron, do: alsamixer in the terminal, make sure the ctrl sliders are up to 70% and the "M" in the box at the bottom of the ctrls are unmuted by using the M key.16:20
BluesKajunmuted=0016:20
ByronBluesKaj: they are all at 00 and 100%16:21
chris__Okay, I got the session switched, but it didn't really fix my problem I had.16:22
BluesKaj100% is too high , the sound inputs will clip if you go to 100%16:22
BluesKajas well as the outputs16:23
chris__My video driver must be bunk16:23
ByronBluesKaj: I wish I had audio to clip :(16:24
BluesKajByron , what kind of sound setup do you have ...pci soundcard, on board, or both16:24
BluesKaj?16:24
chris__I can only get 800x60016:24
ByronIt is on-board. It's on the Acer Aspire One netbook16:24
Byronchris__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg16:25
chris__I'll try that16:26
ByronByron: I'm following the instructions now to have the manually installed alsa driver removed and go back to K/Ubuntu's defaults.16:26
chris__I'm a nubi, so it might take a bit16:26
BluesKajByron, that xorg command may not work on the newer releases..the xorh.conf file depends heavily on HAL so editing xorg.conf isn't as simple as it once was16:27
ByronI did not know that. I guess I've been fortunate with video16:28
BluesKajByron, yeah , alsa usually recognizes most soundcards and provides the right drivers by default16:28
BluesKajunless it's intel , there seems to be some media probs with intel onboards16:29
chris__I'm trying to ultimately get XP to run on VirtualBox OSE16:31
chris__but it's all bubbly and huge16:31
ByronBluesKaj: It was working great, but not the microphone. Someone mentioned to install the alsa driver, which I did, and then I lost audio. It is recognized, but I want to go back to K/Ubuntu's defaults.16:32
w-heathi, am I doing something wrong? I can't seem to upgrade to amarok 2.02...16:34
w-heatis there a package for this? (if not, does anyone know when there will be?)16:35
BluesKajByron , alsa merely runs the right driver for the card . Removing alsa won't make any diff , it might screw things up read this , it will help : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture16:35
ByronBluesKaj: OK. The only change is the alsa driver install which I did last night16:42
Dragnslcrw-heat- looks like 2.0.2 is the current version for Kubuntu 9.0416:42
Dragnslcrw-heat- I don't know if there's a package for it for 8.1016:43
BluesKajalsa isn't a driver, it just links the generic default driver16:43
dalepg16:43
BluesKajor whatever driver is otherwise installed16:43
ByronBluesKaj: Sorry, I'm referencing the tarball alsa-driver-1.0.18a16:44
w-heatDragnslcr: ah, thanks for the info - I'm on 8.10 and will wait until the 24th for 9.04... guess I'll just have to sit tight16:44
BluesKajByron, is your mobo intel based ?16:45
kenan!pdf16:45
ubottupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/okular/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)16:45
ByronBluesKaj: Yes, I believe so.16:45
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MatthiasMuenchenhi all. i have a problem with the latest kubuntu 9.04 RC. I try to connect to my router via WLAN, the plasmoid shows me the available accesspoints. I press my AP, I get asked for my WPA-PSK but then there is no connection possible, it simply stops16:58
genii-around!jaunty16:58
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.16:58
BluesKajByron, in the konsole : cat /proc/asound/cards17:01
Byron2 lines...17:02
Byron 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel17:02
Byron                      HDA Intel at 0x56340000 irq 1617:02
BluesKajByron, try : aplay -l17:03
genii-around!intelhda17:03
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto17:03
BluesKajahha there it is , thx genii-around :)17:03
genii-aroundBluesKaj:  :) Anytime17:04
Byroncard 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC272 Analog [ALC272 Analog]17:04
Byron  Subdevices: 1/117:04
Byron  Subdevice #0: subdevice #017:04
genii-aroundThose Intel HDA and knockoffs are problemmatic17:04
BluesKajlotta probs with intel media theses days ...sorta like ati a few releases ago17:04
BluesKajByron, did you see the URL post from genii-around, above ?17:06
ByronYes, I am going through it now and following the steps17:07
dalepg17:07
ByronI'm going to reboot and see if that does anything. I'll BRB and let you know if it works or not17:11
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GortiZjust an help, i want to setup kubuntu in a way that every time i compile something it will use -j 5 as an option to parallelize the compilation, i was used to use gentoo and in that i've setted a variable into the make.conf. How can I obtain the same on KUbuntu?17:15
ByronBluesKaj: Ok, now I don't have an audio card17:17
Byroncat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory17:17
Byronaplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found...17:18
BluesKajByron, lspci | grep audio17:18
GortiZno one 'bout parallel compilation under ubuntu? i've searched on google but i can't find anything..17:19
ByronBluesKaj: Came back with nothing, just a new prompt17:21
BluesKajByron, look in adept for alsa and pulseaudio , install them if they are missing17:23
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: grep -i audio ;)17:24
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Byronthey are all installed17:25
Byronsudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils17:26
Byronall installed and latest version17:26
ActionParsnipByron: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2493717:28
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BluesKajByron,  /.asoundrc set-default-card "Intel ALC272"17:37
costinhelloo17:37
BluesKajmore raking to do , BBL17:38
costin ,chanel of romania? is ubuntu_ro ? plzz help17:40
costin?17:42
ActionParsnip!ro17:43
ubottuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro17:43
costindanke <ubottu>17:43
Hystoriker_ActionParsnip: i have now got rid of the WPA encryption on my router and the connection still doesn't work17:45
ActionParsnipHystoriker_: try rebooting the router, it can help sometimes17:45
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ByronActionParsnip: That link is over 4 years old17:51
ByronBluesKaj: Do that where?17:51
ActionParsnipByron: the man page for cp is even older, but still used17:53
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kanonmat_maybe go for oss instead of alsa as a last resort?17:56
kanonmat_idk how that works with arts and stuff17:57
kubukaba_knetworkmanager wont connect to my Zycel router with encryption on17:57
agai take it you setup the connection kubukaba_?18:02
Yud_Zrocim having a dpi problem any pointers18:03
ByronI rebooted and I'm being told that the sound devices have been removed. The prompt is asking if I want KDE to do away with them.18:04
ByronHow can I reinstall the devices?18:04
kubukaba_aga, I am using Ubuntu for 3 years, and last year networkmanager hat the same problem - seems that kMN is just @ this stage of development now. I have just no idea how to channel my message to the confusing Linux-buerocracy to the right developer18:04
agaubuntu != kubuntu, and i think the network managers are also different18:06
Yud_Zrochow do i increase my dpi so i can use ubuntu18:06
agajeez i dunno what's wrong with my eyes today18:06
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agai think the best should be to fill a bug report anyway kubukaba_18:07
kubukaba_aga, sure,  bug report, but where to?18:09
agahmmm i will try to find the link, i dont fill many of those18:09
kubukaba_aga, thx18:10
agaare you using ubuntu or kubuntu finally?18:10
agakubukaba_?18:11
kubukaba_aga, yep?18:12
agaare you using ubuntu or kubuntu?18:12
agafor ubuntu this may help kubukaba_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs18:12
ubuntuKubuntu18:13
aganeed to go for a while18:13
ubuntuthanks18:13
ByronWould I be better off reinstalling Kubuntu on here and regaining my packages through dselect?18:21
ByronI can't seem to get audio to play and it seems to be making things worse... I went from audio, no mic to no audio and no mic and now I'm at no audio devices.18:22
joshjtldo i need something in particular to get amarok to play my flac audio?18:23
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joshjtlok, I can't play flac on Amarok18:26
chfwiggumhow can i change the audio backend from gstreamer back to xine? tia18:27
chfwiggumi have no sound with amarok only18:27
DeksamHi all18:29
kanonmat_maybe install libflac8, joshjtl18:29
joshjtlkannan: thanks, but already installed18:30
theuser1http://us.mc387.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?&.rand=1863956053&needG#_pg=compose&&.rand=345739334&clean&.jsrand=918:31
theuser1how to change my pasword or any other user's pasword?18:31
theuser1sory for the link18:31
theuser1helo18:32
DeksamI've got a question, its pretty frustrating18:32
DeksamI just loaded up a new Ubuntu Server,18:33
Deksamits set on DHCP and its pulling down an IP... it'll ping out.....18:33
kanonmat_chfwiggum: amarok settings > engine, set sound system to xine, perhaps18:33
Deksambut... it won't get an update..18:33
kanonmat_passwd, theuser118:34
Deksamafter I try the update, it won't let me ping anymore18:34
Deksamgives me the unknown host.... if I reboot, it pings, until I try to access anything outside the network...18:35
theuser1kanonmat_:  what if i want to chat other users pasword i dont know the current. iam root18:35
kanonmat_man passwd, superuser can change password for all accounts18:36
Deksamno ideas I take it? I'm kinda stumped too18:38
kanonmat_as superuser: # passwd username18:38
kanonmat_Deksam: dns trouble? idk18:39
DeksamI thought about that, but its pulling the correct DNS from our server.18:40
DeksamI mean I'm pretty new to ubuntu, but I'm pretty good at networking18:40
kanonmat_did you use networkmanager to set up network?18:42
somekoolHi ! I isntalled a new xscreensaver saver but I cannot load it from KDE18:42
somekooli can load all other default xscreensaver. what could be the trouble?18:42
kanonmat_are you not running kscreensaver?18:43
Deksamno I didn't go through the network manager, but I checked the interfaces to make sure everything is set up right18:45
kanonmat_good18:45
Deksamnothing really changed... and unfortunately I don't know my way around the command line interface well enough yet to know what else to check18:47
kanonmat_can you ping your dhcp server?18:48
kanonmat_traceroute perhaps?18:48
BluesKajor nmap18:48
kanonmat_somekool: i have my screensavers as .xml files in /usr/share/xscreensaver/config18:48
kanonmat_look there18:49
DeksamI can ping my server18:49
Deksaminternal network seems okay18:49
Deksamsee wait18:49
Deksamnow... I can ping yahoo.com18:49
kanonmat_my isp blocks ping, you are lucky :)18:50
Deksamheheh18:50
Deksamwell I'm getting out fine now, but as soon as I try to update it stalls on the update18:50
Deksamand then I won't be able to ping out again18:50
kanonmat_oh, i was too hasty, somekool, the xml only controls the screensavers :)18:51
jbbhi, i'm using kde4, any idea on how to get a menu to configure which partition is mounted where ?18:51
kanonmat_i feel safer just editing /etc/fstab, jbb18:53
jbbkanonmat_ that's a way, but i know there is a graphical tool for kde3, any idea where is the kde4 one ?18:54
kanonmat_im currently on kde3 :)18:54
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Scherenhaendenhi18:57
somekooli got it to work, but it does not support xinerama/twinhead18:58
DeksamKanonmat_ I don't know what happened, but its dowloading the package now... ..18:58
somekoolthat is so unfortunate18:58
kanonmat_look in /usr/lib/xscreensaver/18:59
kanonmat_otherwise do: updatedb ; locate yourscreensaver19:00
kanonmat_maybe you can write a xml for it, there's a /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/README19:01
kanonmat_maybe electricsheep works in another way19:02
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d3jakeI am trying to upgrade Kubuntu 6.06LTS to 8.08 using the package "update-manager-tool" mentioned on this page:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades But when I try to install it it gives me a strange error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/152947/ Any ideas as to what's causing it?19:03
d3jakeI would have just installed or upgraded from a CD, but the CD drive in this laptop needs to be replaced.19:05
Deksamhave you updated before the upgrade?19:08
genii-aroundd3jake: You can force version number of which to install. The version number is as reported from result of apt-cache policy <packagename>.In my case this would have a line like: Candidate: 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.1 in the result.Then something like: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-common=2.4.1-1ubuntu2.1            will install specifically that19:09
d3jakeI have updated before trying to upgrade. I upgraded all of the package available in the dapper repos, and then added the Hardy repos so I could install that tool.19:10
heitor#pos19:10
kanonmat_mixing repos, is that what you should do?19:10
genii-aroundDefinitely not19:11
d3jakeThat's how I got it upgraded last time around when I had a working copy that I upgraded.19:11
Scherenhaendenhi19:12
Scherenhaendeni have a question19:12
kanonmat_you may have installed wrong versions of pkgs, d3jake19:12
Scherenhaendeni have quassel irc... how can i look for more channels up?19:12
d3jakekanonmat_ I suppose that could be a problem.....19:13
kanonmat_i think you should get the sources.list back to its original version19:14
Scherenhaendeni was having another program when i had gnome... but now i have just kde... it brings quassel... but i cannot find how can i look for more channels19:14
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kanonmat_and then just enable the "dapper-updates" repository19:15
kanonmat_im using "konversation" Scherenhaenden19:15
Scherenhaendenkonversation is another irc programm?19:16
Scherenhaendenn u can look for channels up?19:16
kanonmat_yes, it uses "F5" for a channel list19:16
Scherenhaendengreat... cuz here i cannot look for channels... n my english is not so great hehehe19:16
d3jakekanonmat_ Should I have any of the hardy repos in my repo list? or just the hardy-upgrades or..?19:17
kanonmat_isnt there #ubuntu-de?19:17
ubuntui'm trying to use kubuntu9.04rc right now!19:18
kanonmat_i think you should have the dapper repos, some part of the upgrade process will add hardy repos and disable dapper repos19:18
genii-aroundd3jake: There should not be any hardy repos in your list yet if you are going lts version to lts version upgrade. The upgrade will do that for you19:19
ubuntuseems firefox is not to be setted as the default browser19:19
Scherenhaendenubuntu-de is with me?19:19
kanonmat_!de19:19
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.19:19
kanonmat_i think so, Scherenhaenden :)19:19
d3jakegenii-around: ahh, okay. I guess when I got it working last time it was me just flipping enough switches untill something worked...19:20
kanonmat_try konversation, i like it :)19:20
Scherenhaendenhow did u know that i speak german?19:20
Scherenhaendenachso19:20
Scherenhaendendu sprichst deutsch19:20
kanonmat_u have scissorhands :)19:20
d3jakehhe19:21
genii-aroundd3jake: The upgrade process has also changed much since days of going from 5.04 to 5.10 and so on as well19:21
Scherenhaendenja, genau... sowieso muss ich auch die channels, die aus spanisch sind... weil mein deutsch nicht so19:21
kanonmat_and there is a way to install from usb nowadays19:21
Scherenhaendengut ist... heheh19:21
Scherenhaenden danke ;)19:21
kanonmat_aha :)19:22
kanonmat_!es19:22
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:22
d3jakekanonmat_ I am not sure if this laptop can boot from a USB drive, that is the problem, or I would.19:22
Scherenhaendenok gracias;)19:22
kanonmat_ok, its an old laptop19:22
Scherenhaendentu sabes muchos idiomas :S19:23
d3jakeNot really old... just an HP NC6000, so not really new, but not old....like my old laptop (150MHz vs. 1.6GHz)19:23
kanonmat_i have an hp nc 6220 :)19:23
R3DB0xis there anyway to undo updates?  my sound was working till i did the updates that poped up on my system tray and now i have no sound.  i dont remember anything that could have done it...most of what i saw was for pdf and cups and stuff like that but its the only thing i can think of since i had sound 2 hrs ago.19:23
Scherenhaendenkonversation is downloading...19:24
krioxhi19:24
genii-around!downgrade | R3DB0x19:24
ubottuR3DB0x: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.19:24
kanonmat_i havent tried quassel, xchat is a classic client, a bit ugly in kde19:25
krioxthe questions is: somebody have got problem whit dolphin locale different to english?19:25
kanonmat_you just want to downgrade some pkgs, R3DB0x?19:25
R3DB0xkanonmat_: i guess.  you know the little sprocket thing that pops up on the system tray that says there are updates...well i did that and no i have no sound.19:26
krioxhi anybodi knows because after a upgrading my dolphin is not more in italian?19:28
kanonmat_look at the end of /var/log/aptitude19:28
kanonmat_i think it tells what was upgraded19:28
Deksamhow can I set the DISPLAY when executing x-www-browser from xorg from the command line?19:29
R3DB0xkanonmat_: i went to /var/log/apt and there i term.log and it has stuff from yesterday that i installed but nothing bout the updates for today19:32
kanonmat_hmm19:32
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R3DB0xi mean the sound was working 2 hrs ago so the updates are the only thing i can think of that would break it19:34
kanonmat_maybe you installed pulseaudio as a recommendation, im only guessing19:40
R3DB0xhow would i check?19:41
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R3DB0xunder sound in system settings i do see pulse audi..and i dont remember it before19:43
R3DB0xi dont have pulseaudio installed but i have libpulse installed19:45
kanonmat_ls --sort=time /var/cache/apt/archives      newest comes first19:47
R3DB0xok19:48
kanonmat_im not sure about that, maybe its easier to configure sound19:49
R3DB0xthe first 20 are libcup stuff or cups or ghostscript19:49
Arminiushi19:51
ArminiusPhilRod can you beleive it? my problem is solved! and I have no idea why... I just started Kubuntu and all worked fine! :o19:52
ArminiusI am sooo happy!19:52
d3jakeOkay, I got the tool installed. Apparently there were some updates from the dapper repo that I hadn't done...somehow...19:53
d3jakeAnd before I keep asking questions I'll research online instead of possibly wasting the time of the peoples in here.19:54
R3DB0xkanonmat_: you mentioned configureing the sound...what do i need to do that cause it worked right off the bat when i did my install so im not sure what to do19:56
kanonmat_sound can be tricky, there are plenty of posts on ubuntuforums.com19:57
kanonmat_it was a lengthy process before i had sound on my laptop :)19:58
kanonmat_i ended up with oss19:58
heinkel_111in which file do i find my dns server settings?20:01
heinkel_111the system settings cannot parse the xml file it says \20:02
kanonmat_heinkel_111:  /etc/resolv.conf20:03
heinkel_111takk20:03
kanonmat_xml file?20:03
heinkel_111yep... that is the error message i get in system settings20:04
heinkel_111don't know how relevant the error message is20:04
d3jakeWhen I try to run "sudo do-release-upgrade" it complans that it cannot import the apt module. When I try to install the python-apt package I am told it is installed already. Is it maybe a version confilct?20:05
kanonmat_does this give any output, d3jake?: dpkg -l | grep hardy20:11
d3jakeIt just outputs the command again, then outputs the command prompt again d3jake@d3jake-laptop:~$20:12
kanonmat_are you using bash?20:13
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d3jakeI believe, whichever comes default with Kubuntu 6.06LTS20:14
d3jakeI haven't changed it20:14
kanonmat_ok20:14
luca__sera20:14
kanonmat_it appears you dont have any hardy stuff yet20:14
d3jake'stuff'? Do I need to add the hard-updates repo then?20:15
kanonmat_buona sera, luca__20:15
luca__chi mi sa dare una mano con upuntu 8.1020:15
kanonmat_no i just meant that you adcidentally could have installed hardy pkgs before your upgrade20:16
d3jakeohh20:16
d3jakeokay20:16
kanonmat_!it | luca__20:16
ubottuluca__: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)20:16
luca__ok20:16
luca__grazie20:16
R3DB0xis there any difference installing kde from a preinstalled ubuntu setup vs using the kubuntu cd?20:18
rmrfslashAnyone else notice the splash screen in Kubuntu 9.04 (and in 8.10) gets all chopped up and that the fade-in to desktop is choppy20:25
rmrfslashThis happens to me20:25
kanonmat_there may be some gnome on the default setup, R3DB0x20:25
rmrfslashNo?20:27
R3DB0xkanonmat_: so it would be cleaner to just use the kubuntu install?20:27
kanonmat_yes20:28
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robeert__;)20:31
* genii-around makes more coffee20:31
bricefrancais ici ?20:34
brice...20:35
aga!fr | brice20:35
ubottubrice: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr20:35
bricesorry20:36
kanonmat_no need to be sorry :)20:36
agai didn't mean to be mean20:38
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kanonmat_hehe20:39
kanonmat_ubottu, be more polite!20:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about be more polite!20:39
agahahaha20:39
d3jake...20:39
d3jakecool20:39
agait's sweet bot tho ;)20:39
kanonmat_u can set him up for a good joke :)20:39
aganeed to go, got this horrible headache today and this white screen is killing me20:40
agacya20:40
kanonmat_cu20:40
d3jakeWhat the heck, my Python 2.5 install doesn't have a site-packages directory.20:43
d3jakebut 2.4 does20:43
d3jakeCould that be causing my error? :/20:44
kanonmat_i have /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/20:45
ale_s20:45
kanonmat_i think thats unrelated :)20:46
kanonmat_does the upgrade use python?20:46
kanonmat_yes it depends on it20:48
Guest29533ola20:48
kanonmat_hi!20:49
kanonmat_!hi20:49
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:49
kanonmat_my terminal doesnt have the scrollback capacity for me to see all the /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ folders O.o20:51
devilsadvocatekanonmat_, pipe to less20:52
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Yud_Zrocdoes this operate under freenode20:54
devilsadvocateYud_Zroc, the channel? yes20:54
Yud_Zrocok cause im using the kubuntu with 4.0 and im getting my *** handed to my on a silvcer platter20:55
Yud_Zrocand it came with Konversation20:55
kanonmat_Konversation works great here20:55
devilsadvocateYud_Zroc, ?20:55
kanonmat_(kde3)20:55
Yud_Zrocand not chatzilla (cause i cant use FF cause of very very very VERY small fonts20:56
Yud_Zroci like kde4....20:56
Yud_Zrocbut it requires alot of tweeking before its usable20:56
MamarokYud_Zroc: do you have a specific question?20:56
kanonmat_doesnt ctrl++ work ok in ff?20:56
Yud_Zroclet me try20:57
Yud_Zrocthe page is fine....the menus are the problem20:57
Mamarokit works here20:57
Yud_Zrocu using 3.020:57
Mamarokyes20:57
Yud_Zrocthats y20:58
Yud_Zrocim using 420:58
MamarokFirefox 4?20:58
Yud_Zrocno KDE420:58
Mamarokyou were talking about FF just the line before20:58
Yud_Zrocyes20:58
MamarokYud_Zroc: which version of KDE4 do you use?20:58
Yud_Zrocbut the menus on FF and all programs needed to be changed cause the font is like 120:58
Yud_Zrochow do i figure that out20:59
Yud_ZrocMamarok:20:59
kanonmat_the font is too small in all apps?20:59
Mamarokyou go to Konqueror, then open the Help menu and then 'About KDE'20:59
Mamarokkanonmat_: wait till we know the version20:59
kanonmat_i need to learn patience :)21:00
Yud_Zroc4.1.421:00
Mamarokok, so you are using Hardy, right?21:00
Mamarokor is it Intrepid?21:00
Yud_Zroc8.1021:00
Yud_Zrocintro21:00
Mamarokok21:00
Yud_Zrocalmost everything worked out of box21:01
MamarokYud_Zroc: if you go to the SystemSettings, choose Apperance21:01
Yud_Zroci got my dirplay driver using an older nvidia driver....using a new one will screw it up21:01
Mamarokthere you can change the font size of the menus21:01
Yud_ZrocMamarok: did that, but it only affects local things...not added third party programs such as FF21:01
MamarokYud_Zroc: could you please stick to one question at a time ?21:02
Yud_Zrocoh sorry was talking about KDE :(21:02
Yud_Zroceverything ids set to 20 Mamarok21:03
Mamarokwell, you need to change the GTK apps size separately, or use Konqueror instead of FF21:03
kanonmat_opera uses qt21:03
Mamarokkanonmat_: it's not Free Software, and not in the repos...21:04
Yud_Zrocwell Mamarokthis computer aint for me im bulding it for a co-worker (raising her as a linux child so i wanna make her experiance as enjoyable as posible) is koncorer very good for watching stuff like youtube etvc21:04
kanonmat_anyway, opera is working well and i use it21:05
MamarokYud_Zroc: I can use it here, but you need Flash for YouTube21:05
Mamarokkanonmat_: I know, still, this is a support channel for things we ship...21:05
Yud_Zroci installed the flash rstricteds21:06
kanonmat_ok, no extra fluff21:06
MamarokYud_Zroc: that should do the trick21:06
Yud_Zrocwell it aint cuase it is teling me to get the latest21:07
DaSkreechkanonmat_: shift+PgUp to scroll in Terminal21:07
Yud_Zroci know how to fix that so onwards21:07
Yud_ZrocMamarok: Dragon player is giving me some grief21:07
kanonmat_DaSkreech: :)21:07
MamarokYud_Zroc: that's because there is a bug, use VLC instead21:07
Yud_Zrocok21:08
kanonmat_DaSkreech: i set scrollback to  10000 lines21:08
* DaSkreech slightly suggests that Yud_Zroctry Jackalope21:08
Mamarokyeah, was thinking the same, now it's RC21:08
Yud_ZrocMamarok: this user im makeing this for.....has bnever used a windows computer b4 u think Kubuntu is a good start21:09
Yud_Zroci dont want her using a virus lol21:09
Mamarokyes, definitely, but you should install Jaunty, not Intrepid21:09
Yud_Zrocshe got no internet yet21:09
Yud_Zrocisn Jaunty in beta21:09
Mamarokas Intrepid ships an older KDE 4.1.4 which is intended for experienced users21:09
Mamarokno, it's RC since yesterday21:10
Yud_ZrocRC?21:10
MamarokRelease Candidate21:10
kanonmat_jaunty soon out in a couple of days21:10
DaSkreechYud_Zroc: It's out in 6 days for all intents and purposes it's basically the same as what you will get in a week21:10
Mamarokand it will be released on 23rd21:10
Yud_Zrocah well i am handing this computer in 3 hours so i dont think i can21:10
DaSkreechandit's a LOT nicer21:10
MamarokYud_Zroc: again, you should, it's installed in 20 minutes time for me here21:11
DaSkreecha) 4.2 is a nice jump over KDE 4.1 and b it feels a lot tighter and more integrated since most KDE3 stuff has been dropped21:11
DaSkreechYud_Zroc: What are the list of poblems you have now21:11
* genii-around elbows DaSkreech into #ubuntu-release-party21:11
DaSkreechOw!21:11
DaSkreechI needed those ribs21:12
genii-aroundHehe21:12
Mamarokgenii-around: you got me21:12
Yud_ZrocMamarok: well i got to download it21:13
zaapiel-mobilewat up21:13
DaSkreechYud_Zroc: how long is the download time for you?21:13
zaapiel-mobilewhats up with dolphin dudes in 9.0421:14
Yud_Zrocno idea21:14
zaapiel-mobileits super slow when i open a directory full of pdfs21:14
Yud_Zrocbut my time is almost up21:14
zaapiel-mobilei think it must be trying to show a preview or something21:14
zaapiel-mobileit lags out basically21:14
zaapiel-mobileand im on a fast computer21:14
DaSkreechYud_Zroc: ok fine we'll try help you with the problems as is21:14
DaSkreechzaapiel-mobile: Close the info panel21:14
Mamarokzaapiel-mobile: click on the preview button on top21:14
Soyburggood day21:15
zaapiel-mobilethat worked DaSkreech21:15
zaapiel-mobilestill though21:15
zaapiel-mobilei liek previews21:15
zaapiel-mobilehope that speeds up21:15
DaSkreechzaapiel-mobile: It will for 4.321:15
zaapiel-mobileheh21:15
zaapiel-mobilealways tommorow21:15
DaSkreechOr rather it has21:15
zaapiel-mobile<3 kde21:15
DaSkreechIf you have a full nepomukstore it's fast as well21:16
DaSkreechbut Nepomuk is getting a bit of restructure love now21:16
zaapiel-mobilethats the new semantic search thing isnt it?21:16
zaapiel-mobilelike a kde beagle21:16
Yud_ZrocVLC is giving me too21:17
zaapiel-mobileokular kind of sucks too21:17
zaapiel-mobileno offense21:17
zaapiel-mobilelol21:17
jklhjklhjkhwhat is the best way to update to 9.04 from 8.10?21:18
Yud_Zrocit detects it goes to start up then bam....nothing21:18
zaapiel-mobilewell id reformat jklhjklhjkh21:18
zaapiel-mobile9.04 has ext4 support21:18
Mamarokzaapiel-mobile: works fine here21:18
zaapiel-mobileext4 ftw21:18
Mamarokzaapiel-mobile: there are issues...21:18
zaapiel-mobilewith what?21:18
zaapiel-mobileext4?21:18
zaapiel-mobiledont tell me that21:18
zaapiel-mobilei just formated my whole box with it21:18
Mamarokwith ext4, read before you change, you might be disapointed21:19
SoyburgI do have a rather tricky question about konqueror and profiles.  I would like to save the number of rows for icon text in the filemanagement profile.  I suppose it is a key:value thing I need in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/filemanagement.  Any help on wha the key might be please?21:19
DaSkreechjklhjklhjkh: Currently?21:19
zaapiel-mobilemy fav thing is how they make it so easy to setup full disk encryption21:19
zaapiel-mobileim on a lappy21:19
DaSkreechYud_Zroc: Run it from konsole and see what it's doing21:19
* Yud_Zroc dont know how to do that21:20
zaapiel-mobilegot dat AES 256 son21:20
jklhjklhjkhDaSkreech: yes i dont mind formatting but if i can with out that is cool also21:20
DaSkreechSoyburg: Not sure but #kde might help as well21:20
Mamarokzaapiel-mobile: please, this is a support channel, don't ramble21:20
zaapiel-mobileo21:20
zaapiel-mobileok21:20
Soyburgthanks DaSkreech, I'll go there and ask the question.  Sorry for asking here if it was inappropriate.21:20
zaapiel-mobilehave an ot chan?21:20
Mamarokzaapiel-mobile: #kubutu-offtopic21:21
Yud_Zrochow do u open VLC through terminal21:22
MamarokYud_Zroc: just type vlc21:23
Soyburgtype vlc and you are good to go.21:23
Yud_Zrocerror >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/153024/21:27
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Daskreechjklhjklhjkh: Hello?21:30
tsimpsonYud_Zroc: none of those lines are errors21:30
DaskreechYud_Zroc: open konsole and type vlc21:30
MamarokDaskreech: I think he already did21:30
Yud_Zroclibdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.2 from http://dvd.sf.net21:31
Yud_Zroclibdvdnav: DVD Title: RACING_STRIPES21:31
Yud_Zroclibdvdnav: DVD Serial Number: 32577C6C21:31
Yud_Zroclibdvdnav: DVD Title (Alternative): RACING_STRIPES21:31
Yud_Zroclibdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/megan/.dvdnav/RACING_STRIPES.map'21:31
Yud_Zroclibdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 121:31
Yud_Zrocthose are errors21:31
MamarokYud_Zroc: pelase!21:31
DaskreechSorry was the last thing I saw before the reboot21:31
tsimpsonno, they are not21:31
tsimpsonand DO NOT paste in the channel21:31
Mamarokwe have seen the pastebin before!21:31
jklhjklhjkhDaSkreech: yes i dont mind formatting but if i can with out that is cool also21:31
Daskreechjklhjklhjkh: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade -d21:31
MamarokYud_Zroc: there is no error I can see21:32
Yud_Zrocthat is a legit dvd why aint it playing it21:32
Daskreech!dvd21:32
Mamarokdid it open a small window?21:32
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:32
MamarokYud_Zroc: what you did is just open the VLC player, yu still have to click on play21:33
Yud_Zroci did21:33
Mamarokthen you are missing codecs I guess21:33
Mamarok!codecs21:33
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:33
Mamarokoops :)21:33
Yud_Zrocim thinking i should get 9.0421:34
tsimpsonyou need the libdvdcss package, in konsole type "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"21:35
CirosI like my 9.04, but I am paranoid to load the ati drivers, as seems to cause issues21:35
tsimpsonthat's my guess21:35
Yud_Zrocshould i get 32 bit or 64 bit im using 64 atm..... cause i got 4 gig ram21:35
Yud_Zrocbut i dont mind more stabnility using 3.2 gigs of that ram21:35
MamarokCiros: I can't use the fglrx one, the others are ok21:35
CirosI run it on 64 bit21:35
Cirosreally, I tried to use the ones from ati, and it failed just like the fglrx ones21:36
MamarokYud_Zroc: take 64bit, else you will not be able to use all your ram21:36
Yud_ZrocCiros: how do u install flashplayer21:36
MamarokCiros: not for me21:36
Cirosweird mamarok21:36
Daskreechjklhjklhjkh: Then kick back for about 1.5 hours21:36
MamarokCiros: what is your card?21:36
jklhjklhjkhDaskreech:  ty21:37
MamarokYud_Zroc: there is a package for it, called flash-nonfree21:37
MamarokYud_Zroc: it will get you the installer from Adobe21:37
CirosYud_Zroc:  I used the installer program to do it...just searched for flash21:37
CirosMamarok:  it is an integraded hd320021:37
Mamarok!flash21:37
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash21:37
MamarokCiros: mine is a HD 365021:37
Daskreechjklhjklhjkh: Sure thing. Hope you enjoy21:37
Mamarokuse the simple radeon driver21:37
Ciroshmmm   will find it, if my launcher wasnt acting so weird all of the sudden21:38
MamarokCiros: but of course there are not many desktop effects, I hd to switch to XRender for the trasnparence21:38
d3jakeSOrry, my connection died. It looks like the python-apt package only applies to version 2.4 of Python. Is there a substitute for Python version 2.5?21:38
Cirosyeah I want to get transparance.   does the simple radeon driver allow the hdmi to work?21:39
MamarokI have transparency, and the desktop grid, that's it21:40
Mamarokbut it did work in Intrepid, so they should be able to bring that back21:40
Ciroshmmm21:41
Mamarokonly the fglrx driver is a tricky stuff and proprietary, so we depend on AMD21:41
Mamarokthe previous driver worked fine though21:41
CirosI know tht is what is driving me crazy21:42
Mamarokwell, take it easy, you have no other choice21:42
ActionParsnipjust avoid ati21:43
MamarokActionParsnip: I much prefer a collaborative firm like AMD over those arrogant chaps at NVIDIA who don't care if there is Linux out there21:45
Mamarokbut AMD has no other choice if they want to survive anyway21:45
ActionParsnipMamarok: well they clearly do as theyve been churning out decent drivers for as long as i can remember21:46
Mamaroknot for me21:46
CirosI wonder which driver I am using now.... >.>21:47
ActionParsnipMamarok: never had an issue from my nvidia riva tnt2 ultra all the way up to my gefore 615021:48
d3jakeI am trying to run the upgrade tool from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades . I have it installed sucessfully installed. Everytime I try to run the tool (sudo do-release-upgrade) it complains that it cannot import the apt module. I added the hardy-upgrades repos in my repo list to see if I could upgrade python-apt, but when I request an upgrade it states that it will conflict with python2.3\2.4-apt and replace them. Should I chance21:48
d3jakeool to work of find another way round?21:48
CirosActionParsnip:  the ati drivers from when intrepid was released worked, and was decent, the newest release jacks up my system21:49
CirosMamarok:  are you refering to the ati binary X.org driver?21:50
ActionParsnipCiros: log a bug is all i can sugggest21:50
Cirosmeh I am just stay away from them currently.   whenI install it I cant get back into kde....lol   atleast with whatever I am using right now, it works21:51
MamarokCiros: the one that doesn't work for me is the proprietarx fglrx driver, the free radeon driver works fine, but without GL21:59
Mamarokand there already is a bug filed agaoinst that IIRC22:00
CirosI figured there would be since I know I am not the first to install the drivers on an ati based card  lol22:01
Cirosrandom question, how do i get numlock to be turned on during boot up.... >.>   I totally forget how22:03
Mamarokhm, can't remember, but I guess you should find that on Google22:04
PhilRodCiros: system settings -> keyboard, if you want it turned on at login22:05
Cirosguess so.   lol.    like said random22:05
PhilRodnot sure what to do if you want it turned on during the honest-to-goodness boot process22:05
CirosThanks.   lol22:05
Cirosmeh   it works for when kde starts up.    still need to figure how to change the sensitivity on my touch pad...it is too sensitive.  lol22:06
ActionParsnipCiros: change it in bios would be my bet22:09
CirosActionParsnip:  probably.   just one of those hopes I could change it in kde.   but havent seen it in options22:09
Cirosright gotta run bbl22:12
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d3jakeI am trying to run the upgrade tool from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades . I have it installed sucessfully installed. Everytime I try to run the tool (sudo do-release-upgrade) it complains that it cannot import the apt module. I added the hardy-upgrades repos in my repo list to see if I could upgrade python-apt, but when I request an upgrade it states that it will conflict with python2.3\2.4-apt and replace them. Should I chance22:19
d3jakeool to work of find another way round?22:19
ActionParsnipd3jake: kdesudo update-manager-kde22:26
ActionParsnip-d22:26
d3jakeokay22:26
d3jakeActionParsnip, is that -d supposed to go with the command?22:27
d3jakeIs there a difference between sudo and kdesudo?22:27
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ymlhello, goodevening I am an happy new owner of an hp dv6 with 4 Gb of ram and I am wondering wich version of kubuntu I should install22:28
ActionParsnipd3jake: kdesudo is for gui apps like update manager and kate22:28
ActionParsnipd3jake: sudo is ONLY for cli apps like cp, ln, mv, apt-get22:28
d3jakeah, okay22:28
ActionParsnipd3jake: running gui apps with sudo done not setup the environment and will garbage file ownerships22:28
ActionParsnip*done == does22:29
yml32 bits or 64 bits. I understand that if I want to take advantage of the 4 gb of ram I should better use the 64bits. however I am a bit woried by the softaware support22:30
ymllike the flash plugins and other22:30
ActionParsnipyml: 64bit support is the same as 32bit, java can be a pain, the rest is absolutely flawless22:30
ActionParsnipyml: flash is fine22:30
kanonmat_yml, jaunty jackalope is soon out, i have flash on 64bit22:30
ymlI am testing the RC22:31
ymlI have installed an updated the 32 bits22:31
ymland everything is working except the suspend in memory and the the sound with the speaker22:32
ymland right now I am testing the live cd of the 64bits version22:32
ymland I am still hesitating between the two22:32
ymlbefore going and doing a full installation22:33
d3jakeActionParsnip, okay (cool name BTW) I tried that command it said "bash: kdesudo: command not found", I tried with just sudo and it said "sudo: update-manager-kde: command not found"22:33
d3jakeActionParsnip, okay (cool name BTW) I tried that command it said "bash: kdesudo: command not found", I tried with just sudo and it said "sudo: update-manager-kde: command not found"22:33
d3jakesorry.. I was scrolled up and didn't see I had sent the message.22:34
ActionParsnipd3jake: are you running kde?22:34
d3jakeyes22:34
ActionParsnipd3jake: sudo apt-get install kdesudo update-manager-kde22:35
ActionParsnipd3jake: if kdesudo update-manager works, roll with it22:36
ymlis there a way to update an installation done in 32 bits to 64 bits ? or should I reinstall from the live cd ?22:36
ActionParsnipyml: you need to reinstall with a 64bit ISO22:36
d3jakeActionParsnip: The annoying part is that I've gotten the first upgrade tool to work correctly... and this time around it's giving me issues.22:36
ymlok thank you for your insight. I am going to give it a try22:37
d3jakeActionParsnip: When I try to run the command "sudo apt-get install kde update-manager-kde"  I am told the package kdesudo is not available, but is referred to by another package."22:39
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ActionParsnipd3jake: weird22:40
d3jakeyes22:40
d3jake...22:40
bobosoDaskreech: done and so far the only thing i see is vmware doesnt want to work22:41
ByronI reinstalled Kubuntu on my Acer Aspire One and things are 'back to normal'.22:41
Daskreechboboso: Umm ok22:41
DaskreechUpgraded to Jackalope?22:41
ByronHowever, I can't seem to edit the K Menu height.22:41
bobosoDaskreech: sry my nick changed im the one you helped upgrade from 8.10 to 9.0422:42
Daskreechboboso: ok :)22:42
Daskreech!vmware22:42
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware22:42
ByronAlso, how do I get the GPG key from http://apt.wicd.net/wicd.gpg ?22:42
Daskreechboboso: Oh You might need new kernel modules for the new kernel22:42
Byrondisregard the GPG, I just got it22:43
ByronHow do I modify the K Menu height?22:43
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DaskreechByron: Drag it?22:45
d3jakeWill there be a way to go back to KDE3 in jaunty, or will KDE4 be the only version of KDE that can be used?22:46
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ByronDaskreech: I tried, nothing to drag22:46
DaskreechByron: Which menu? Kickoff?22:48
boboso2does kde 4.2 have the ability to have different wallpapers on different desktops?22:49
DaskreechKinda :)22:49
ByronDaskreech: yes22:49
Daskreechnot really :(22:49
Daskreechbut kinda :-)22:49
boboso2Daskreech: is that to me?22:49
Daskreechyes22:50
boboso2mmmm dam i thought i read that the feature would be in the 4.222:50
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Daskreechboboso2: Yeah it's kinda in 4.3 as well22:51
boboso2haha22:51
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bobosowell thats just great :(22:51
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bobosowell i guess i need to find out why vmware isnt working now22:52
d3jakeDoes\Will KDE4 allow the user to change how many programs will stack on the taskbar? In KDE3 the default is to have programs stacked two high, and KDE4 seems to default to only having them one high, which in my opinion is a waste of space.22:52
ubuntusuxanyone know how to get xkoules to work in ubuntu ?22:53
Daskreechd3jake: Yes you can do that in KDE 4.222:54
Daskreechboboso: I'm guessing your Vmware kernel module is broken22:54
drbobbhello, does jaunty's kopete work for you guys?22:55
d3jakeDaskreech: I wouldn't mind using KDE4 if I could find that setting, could you direct me to a web page somewhere that describes where that setting is?22:55
drbobb(and gals, if any ;-)22:55
Daskreechd3jake: what version of KDE 4 are you using?22:56
Daskreechdrbobb: What about us robots and complex bash scripts?22:56
Daskreechwe have e-feelings too :(22:56
drbobbuh, i'm not sure whether scripts use kopete, or have a need for it22:57
kanonmat_kdesu is the old kdesudo?22:57
d3jakeDaskreech: I'm not. This laptop's optical drive is getting close to dying, so I am using KDE3 from an older install disc on a Kubuntu 6.06LTS install. I'm trying to get it upgraded but it won't play nice...22:57
Daskreechkanonmat_: yes22:57
Daskreechd3jake: upgrading to what?22:58
Befolkedwhat up.22:58
kanonmat_su != sudo, but ok, i think i get it22:58
d3jakeDaskreech: Kubuntu 8.0822:58
d3jakeI've done it once already.22:58
Befolkedwut?22:58
Daskreechkanonmat_: It wasn't really su before hence the rename22:58
kanonmat_yes22:58
Befolkedkubuntu 8.08.. *scratches head*22:58
devilsadvocated3jake, have you rebooted after the upgrade?22:58
d3jakeuhhh22:58
Daskreechd3jake: you mean 8.04 ?22:58
d3jakethat's it22:58
d3jakesorry22:58
Befolked:D22:59
Daskreechd3jake: that's KDE3 as well22:59
d3jakethat's right22:59
Befolkedim running 9.0422:59
Befolkedcant be bothered with 8.10 anymore.22:59
Befolked!offtopic23:00
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!23:00
Befolked(i forgot the channel name)23:00
d3jakeDaskreech, I hadn't liked KDE4, relating to my question above. And I have correctly run the update to 8.04, but I accidentily broke it, so I decided to reinstall because it was easy to get it upgraded....at least when it worked....23:00
d3jakeThis time around I've had many more issues than last time23:00
drbobbare there any mirrors of apt.pearsoncomputing.net? the home of the kde3.5 jaunty remix?23:01
Daskreechah ok well if you install Jackalope then you can get two rows23:01
d3jakedevilsadvocate: Which upgrade are you yalking about?23:01
Daskreechdrbobb: no why?23:01
d3jakeDaskreech: Good.... If I recall correctly, has it been released yet?23:01
devilsadvocated3jake, 6.06 to something much greater than 6.0623:01
Daskreechdevilsadvocate: You can do LTS -> LTS23:01
drbobbcause it's unavailable - bandwidth limit exceeded23:01
Daskreechd3jake: Close enough :)23:02
BefolkedDaskreech, you can also do LTS -> 9.0423:02
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DaskreechBefolked: Not directly23:02
devilsadvocateDaskreech, 8.10 was lts right? (kubuntu)23:02
DaskreechNo23:02
BefolkedDaskreech, what do you mean?23:02
Befolkedi thought i saw a script to upgrade from Jonathon Riddel23:02
Befolked*Riddell, or whatever.23:02
drbobbI really really need a *working* IM client23:02
d3jakedevilsadvocate: I haven't done the upgrade yet, that's my problem.23:02
Daskreechdrbobb: ok I'll let him know23:02
DaskreechBefolked: link me to it23:03
drbobbDaskreech: thanks23:03
Befolkedyeah, sec im trying to find it.23:03
Befolkedits a script you run23:03
Befolkedit might just upgrade to 8.10, then to 9.0423:03
Daskreechdrbobb: Kopete works fine here what problem are you having?23:04
drbobbthe GaduGadu support is broken23:04
drbobbgtalk doesn't work too well either23:04
Daskreechdrbobb: Ah no idea about that step into #kopete and ask what the status of that was for KDE 4.2 though near as I recall it was working23:04
drbobbI'm not sure it works at all, I don't see any contacts23:05
bobosoDaskreech: do you have any ideas on how to check the vmware kernel module is broken?23:05
BefolkedDaskreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.0423:05
drbobbDaskreech: I've been there but nobody ever replied23:05
Daskreechboboso: See what kernels the version you have installed supports23:05
Befolkedseems interesting. i wonder if it'll work (H)23:05
DaskreechBefolked: nice23:06
Befolkedyeah, i was surprised too.23:06
Befolkedjonathon riddell is the sole kubuntu developer paid by canonical,r ight?23:06
DaskreechFor some version of that statement yes23:07
DaskreechI think there are other paid developers but none that work directly on Kubuntu23:07
Befolkedthats what i heard.23:07
Befolkedyes, yes.23:07
Befolkedmost work on launchpad i've heard.23:07
DaskreechNo as in some work on KDE stuff23:07
Daskreechbut not really considered part of the Kubuntu team23:07
Befolkedmost work on launchpad, some work on ubuntu, and one works on kubuntu. how nice.23:08
Daskreechwell Edubuntu is really getting the shaft if you want to compare23:08
Befolkedbut who uses edubuntu :)23:08
DaskreechWho should use it?23:09
AdolaHi!  How do I turn off idle time?23:20
AdolaI'm watching videos, and my computer goes into some mode.  Normally, I can just log back in, but, because the video is maximized, I can't do anything, I have to kill the session.23:21
bobosoDaskreech: i just uninstalled and then reinstalled vmware and now it works ty for your time23:22
dwidmannAdola: some video players are smart enough to turn off the screensavers (or trick the screensavers into thinking its not idle)23:22
Adoladwidmann: VLC.23:22
xorredhey guys, I'm on Kubuntu latest (testing) version, can't run jar files23:23
xorredException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initializeclass sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment23:23
xorredthat is what I get all the time...23:23
xorredjava -jar file.jar23:23
dwidmann!java | xorred23:23
ubottuxorred: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper23:23
AdolaSo, how do I turn off screensavers?23:24
|PaperTiger|!radeonhd23:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about radeonhd23:24
xorredthanks23:24
xorredand another question - firefox does not exit correctly23:24
xorredwhenever I kill it - it just stays in the processes23:24
xorredthus not allowing me to start again until I kill -9 it23:24
xorredand the java url is broken...23:25
dwidmannAdola: you could try system settings - > appearance -> desktop -> screensaver23:25
xorred The requested operation could not be completedUnknown Host23:25
Adoladwidmann: I just checked.  They were all turned off.  What's doing this then?23:25
sevenhilli think i have found the reasons of "Xfreezing on 9.04 but mouse still active"  problem23:25
Adoladwidmann: And furthermore, VLC has the option "Disable screensaver" applied.23:26
dwidmannAdola: does it kick you back to the login screen or just lock the session?23:26
Adoladwidmann: Kick me back to the login!23:26
dwidmannAdola: maybe X is crashing ...23:27
Adoladwidmann: No, I don't think so, it only does that if I'm not touching the computer for a bit.  Never timed it though.23:28
devilsadvocateAdola, somewhere in powerdevil?23:29
dwidmannAdola: what about system settings -> advanced -> system -> power management?23:29
xorredthe java page in "documentation" does not help me23:31
xorredas I'm on kubuntu 9.0423:31
AdolaAh, I believe that's it!  I just unchecked "Let powerdevil manage screen"23:31
AdolaAnd "Lock screen on resume"23:31
dwidmannAdola: hopefully that'll do the trick, if not I'm sure you'll soon find out eh/23:31
xorred!java23:31
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper23:31
xorredthat does not work for me23:32
xorredat all23:32
rmrfslashjava... yuck23:32
xorredyes but I need it... and it should work with 9.04 right?23:32
rmrfslashworks for me23:32
xorredhow did you set it up?23:32
dwidmannxorred: so, installing "sun-java6-jre" then "sudo update-java-alternatives" doesn't help?23:32
drbobbxorred: i just installed sun-java6-jre on 9.04 yesterday23:33
xorredno doesn't23:33
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drbobband i can confirm that it works23:33
dwidmannxorred: you *DID* update-java-alternatives too, right?23:33
xorredyes23:33
rmrfslashjava --version?23:33
dwidmannxorred: and what does "which java" say?23:33
xorredsudo update-java-alternatives -l23:33
xorredjava-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun23:33
rmrfslashoops23:34
xorredjava -version23:34
xorredjava version "1.6.0_13"23:34
xorredJava(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03)23:34
xorredJava HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 11.3-b02, mixed mode)23:34
rmrfslashjava -version23:34
rmrfslashso what's the problem?23:34
dwidmannhah..... that *looks* right ...23:34
xorredno it does not start up .jar files23:34
rmrfslashjava -jar?23:34
xorredany jar files kill me with error message23:34
xorredyes23:34
rmrfslashwhat's the error?23:34
xorredException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initializeclass sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment23:35
rmrfslashhmm... was the jar made w/ compat mode on?23:35
rmrfslashwell... that doesn't make sense23:35
rmrfslashforget i said that23:35
rmrfslashare you executing this on a server?23:36
rmrfslashor on a regular desktop machine?23:37
xorredon a desktop23:37
xorredyou know, I just fixed it... I won't tell how as you'll laugh your a***es on me :D23:37
dwidmann xorred: that's no fair! I haven't had a good laugh all day!23:38
rmrfslashhow23:38
xorredhahah23:38
d3jakeIs it a problem if I'm trying to do a full update with adept-notifier, but when I click on it, the list of changes inclued a ton of important things (totaling a removal of ~700MB of packages) but only proposes to download ~70MB....23:38
xorredwell... I was starting it up as #23:38
xorrednext, I just exited, and started up as regular user.... that's it23:39
rmrfslashweird23:39
dwidmannnot really ... running things as a different user usually won't work if they're graphical ...23:39
rmrfslashgood ol java the hut23:39
xorredjava ftw23:39
xorred!23:39
* dwidmann likes java23:40
rmrfslashI guess ur right dwidmann23:40
rmrfslashjust tried execing a xterm23:40
rmrfslashas root23:40
rmrfslashgot some fancy error23:40
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dwidmannd3jake: sounds like trouble23:40
d3jakeyes23:41
d3jakeThis is how I've corrupted my installs before. I'll end up uninstalling almost everything before realizing what was happening.23:41
xorredyeah.. I've uninstalled hundreds of packages to fix java23:42
xorredand it turned out ... user issue23:42
dwidmann d3jake: try doing a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"23:42
xorredthe device behind the KB23:42
xorredapt-get? aptitude!!!23:43
xorredwhy do you guys still use apt-get23:43
xorredit's from the stone age23:43
dwidmannbah, apt-get!23:43
rmrfslashwhat else should people use?23:43
xorredaptitude!23:43
denis_xorred:  but it works fine23:43
rmrfslashdpkg?23:43
xorredaptitude beats it23:43
dwidmannrmrfslash: masochist23:43
rmrfslash:D23:43
xorredmake and get over all package managers23:44
denis_xorred:  no, for me aptitude is not useable, it has an uglyx design23:44
xorredugly design?23:44
xorredI can't compare the output of an apti-get search and aptitude search23:44
xorredapt-get is ugly23:44
rmrfslashxorred: yep... ./configure and make are all u need23:44
d3jakeuhh... do both apt-get and aptitude let me download packages?23:44
denis_the overview is bad23:44
xorredaptitude is better, d3jake23:45
denis_that's what I meant23:45
xorredtry it23:45
* xorred feels like a drug dealer23:45
rmrfslashd3jake: apt-get23:45
rmrfslash:P23:45
denis_and as we now have kpackagekit aptitude is gone23:46
d3jakeAnd now we're back to square one...23:46
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denis_and I am gone, too ;-)23:46
xorredtry my sh*t man, you'll love it, it's just gotten here from Columbia23:46
denis_good night23:46
Cirosugh adobe air giving me headache23:46
devilsadvocated3jake, 8.10 did not have kde323:46
devilsadvocated3jake, perhaps that is the source of the trouble?23:47
d3jakedevilsadvocate, apt-get vs. aptitude or..?23:47
p-fIs there a way to paste without using the middle mouse button? I don't like always having to reach for my mouse just to paste something.23:47
devilsadvocated3jake, your 700 mb vs 70 mb23:47
devilsadvocateand aptitude ++ :P23:47
rmrfslash:O23:48
devilsadvocatep-f, shift+insert23:48
Daskreechd3jake: What is getting removed?23:48
p-fOr, alternatively, is there a way to collapse all the separate paste buffers on linux? It seems as though java has its own, KDE and X23:48
p-fdevilsadvocate: won't work23:48
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p-fdevilsadvocate: that's only for the non-X buffer23:48
p-fdevilsadvocate: I want a shortcut for the buffer that receives selected text23:48
d3jakehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/153101/ <= that is the result of dist-upgrade23:48
rmrfslashis there a third mouse button emulation for laptops?23:48
d3jakeDaskreech, many many things.... adept, kopete, lemme get the list >.>23:48
DaskreechYah23:49
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devilsadvocatep-f, either shift+insert or ctrl+v should work, i dont know of any other shortcuts23:50
devilsadvocatermrfslash, clicking both buttons together seems to be the accepted standard23:50
rmrfslash:D23:51
rmrfslashthanks23:51
d3jakeokay.... now adept-updater says it needs to download 604MB, and will install 717MB worth....23:52
d3jakeinteresting...23:52
p-fdevilsadvocate: just select text in a terminal, then middle click. Try getting that text with any of your shortcuts, you'll see what I'm talking about23:53
Cirosoh I hate you adobe air....23:54
d3jake*flips coin* should I try to install now........?23:54
d3jakeerr upgrade*23:54
Daskreechd3jake: does it have a listing of what will be changed?23:54
devilsadvocatep-f, i see. i generally use ctrl+shift+c on konsole23:54
devilsadvocateor right click > copy23:55
devilsadvocate:P23:55
devilsadvocated3jake, make backups first23:55
Cirosd3jake:  back up, and update if you want...23:55
d3jakeDaskreech, in adept-notifier, yes, many packages will be installed, upgraded, and considerably fewer removed23:55
d3jakebackup! what an idea :p23:55
DaskreechWhich will be removed?23:56
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d3jakeThanks for reminding me though23:56
Ciros...why is that update blocked....weird23:56
theuser1how to play, at every system boot.(when kde or x starts)  two 1.mp3 and then 2.mp3 . then again 1.mp3 (repeating for ever. one after an other. for ever) ?23:57
Dark-StarHow can I configure (after installation) whether the hardware clock runs on utc or local time?23:57
Dragnslcrtheuser1- might be able to script something with aplay23:58
devilsadvocatetheuser1, is that wise? :P23:58
theuser1ya23:59

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