[00:09] <ubuntu> pls who can help me?
[00:10] <p_quarles> !ask | ubuntu
[00:11] <ubuntu> how can i install yahoo messenger on kubuntu?
[00:11] <p_quarles> !kopete | ubuntu
[00:12] <ubuntu> but the webcam not work
[00:12] <ubuntu> ??
[00:33] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj you know a guru in central Indiana I could talk to?
[00:34] <compilerwriter> For that matter anyone know a good hardware guru in central Indiana I could talk to.
[01:05] <compilerwriter> slow chat day I see
[01:06] <lorecaster> salutations!! :D anyone know where i can KLM codecs?
[01:06] <doug_f> haha no kidding
[01:09] <lorecaster> anyone, anyone?
[01:09] <lorecaster> bueler? bueler? bueler?
[01:09] <lorecaster> :P
[01:14] <luar_brilhante> im on kubuntu. when i insert a pen or cd it auto-appers a window suggesting thing to do with the inserted media. how do i do to desactivate that windows?
[01:14] <luar_brilhante> does anyone as a clue?
[01:14] <luar_brilhante> thnkx in advance
[01:18] <psyco> anyone know a plasmoid I can get that tells me the load per core on my cpu?
[01:18] <psyco> I have an AMD x3
[01:20] <triune> u kno x3's are x4's with a fault core, right?
[01:21] <hallowname> brutal stuff, lol
[01:21] <psyco> yup
[01:21] <psyco> but x3 = higher OCs because less cores
[01:21] <psyco> and way cheaper XD
[01:21] <psyco> and its the new Phenom IIs so its super awesome fast
[01:22] <psyco> anyways, i need a multicore cpu monitor pplasmoid
[01:22] <httpdss> hi people, im having trouble trying to figure out which is the strigi client on kde4.2, anyone can help me ?
[01:22] <Dragnslcr> The System Monitor plasmoid can track each core
[01:24] <psyco> woooooow
[01:24] <psyco> i fail
[01:24] <psyco> thanks Dragnslcr
[01:25] <lorecaster> no one wanna answer my q? :(
[01:25] <lorecaster> KLM codecs for ubuntu?
[01:26] <LjL> what is KLM?
[01:26] <httpdss> LjL: K-Lite Mega pack ... i think
[01:26] <LjL> uhm yeah, found it on google
[01:27] <LjL> not sure why we'd want it
[01:27] <LjL> also, it's quite clearly windows-only.
[01:27] <httpdss> LjL: very true
[01:28] <httpdss> lorecaster: try out VLC
[01:30] <httpdss> i did a really stupid question up there but had no answer ... is quicksand the answer ? or is there a more advanced solution through kio ?
[01:30] <lorecaster> vlc has the 475 codecs built in?
[01:30] <httpdss> lorecaster: no, but you'll mostly find the ones you need ;)
[01:31] <lorecaster> i have a problem with many AVI's not having audio
[01:31] <lorecaster> ones that clearly worked in widnows
[01:33] <httpdss> lorecaster: there are codec packages on *ubuntu but vlc covers most of my needs
[01:33] <lorecaster> *ubuntu?
[01:34] <httpdss> lorecaster: short for all ubuntu distros (kubuntu edubuntu etc etc etc)
[01:34] <lorecaster> ahh, star as in wildcard
[01:36] <lorecaster> for example, VEXILLE a 2007 anime played beautifully in windows but has no sound is is choppy in ubuntu
[01:37] <lorecaster> thought it was strange
[01:43] <jorge__> hola
[01:45] <httpdss> jorge__: hi ! i you have questions in spanish please do them on #kubuntu-es ;) si tenes preguntas en espanol, porfavor utiliz'a el canal #kubuntu-es .. gracias
[01:55] <lorecaster> even after downloading DivX drivers, i still get no sound. i don't get it.
[01:55] <lorecaster> and yes, sound is
[01:55] <lorecaster> ON
[01:55] <lorecaster> :P
[01:57] <lorecaster> listening to a song in rhythmbox now :(
[01:58] <seele> i upgraded from intrepid to jaunty and i can't launch any applications
[01:58] <seele> any ideas?
[01:59] <massimo> ciao
[02:03] <flux__> hello
[02:22] <lorecaster> can anyone help me on this persistant codec issue?
[02:30] <unknown212> hola
[02:30] <lorecaster> hi :)
[02:40] <farg4321> hi how is everyone today?
[02:43] <farg4321> anyone know some stuff about kubuntu?
[02:45] <farg4321> got a question..
[02:45] <alex-admin> всем привет
[02:45] <farg4321> what language is that?
[02:46] <alex-admin> it is russian
[02:46] <alex-admin> Hello from russia to all
[02:47] <farg4321> nice
[02:48] <alex-admin> why it is nice?
[02:48] <farg4321> It is fun to see another language
[02:49] <jufers> could someone please tell me which command to apply to enter the Spanish channel
[02:49] <alex-admin> UNDERSTAND. )) yes it is fan a little. ))
[02:50] <alex-admin> can somebody tell me how to register my login?
[02:50] <jufers> could someone please tell me which command to apply to enter the Spanish channel
[02:51] <farg4321> como esta
[02:51] <alex-admin> i dont know...
[02:51] <jufers> someone speak spanish
[02:52] <farg4321> como esta
[02:52] <jufers> bien y tu
[02:52] <farg4321> asi asi
[02:52] <jufers> necesito inbresar al canal español pero no recuerdo el comando
[02:52] <alex-admin> and someone speak russian
[02:52] <peaches> !es
[02:52] <jufers> ingresar
[02:53] <farg4321> i forget some of the russian... how do you say hi in russian?
[02:53] <jufers> thanks
[02:53] <alex-admin> привет
[02:53] <farg4321> necesito i think is need al canal is channel? someone the command in espanol..?
[02:54] <alex-admin> you can read it like privet
[02:54] <farg4321> ahhh like pronunciation "priv-et"
[02:54] <alex-admin> yes)))
[02:55] <farg4321> yack she mash...polish ithink
[02:55] <alex-admin> ok...i come out for an 1 hour....ind came back
[02:55] <farg4321> how to say goodbye?
[02:56] <Pici> !es
[02:56] <farg4321> how do you say goodbye in russian?
[02:57] <alex-admin> Пока  read like Po-ka
[02:57] <farg4321> then poka alex-admin
[02:57] <alex-admin> good bye
[02:58] <farg4321> :
[02:58] <farg4321> :)
[03:00] <farg4321> in the mayoria the channel? ubuntu for communication in english.. Fpr ayuda in spanish, please enter in the channel?
[03:02] <blood> hello
[03:02] <farg4321> privet
[03:03] <blood> every one
[03:03] <farg4321> hi blood
[03:04] <blood> i have't came here for a long time
[03:05] <farg4321> why not?
[03:07] <blood> i use the xp for a time
[03:07] <farg4321> oh
[03:07] <blood> for some reason
[03:07] <mona> hello
[03:08] <mona> hello
[03:08] <farg4321> well what are you using now?
[03:08] <mona> hi
[03:08] <mona> hi
[03:08] <farg4321> hi mona
[03:08] <mona> =)
do you compile the linux kernel
[03:09] <farg4321> no do you?
[03:10] <blood> learning
[03:10] <blood> where are you come from?
[03:11] <farg4321> i sent message
[03:17] <vladislaw> buenas noches
[03:18] <farg4321> muye beun
[03:18] <vladislaw> podria alguien ayudarme con un asunto de kde ?
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> !es | vladislaw
[03:27] <eugen_> when running many programs, can I make all them go away when I rotate to a new desktop
[03:27] <eugen_> (in compiz)
[03:31] <yu> 我是ubuntu 8.10，装了kde4.2.2，与kubuntu 9.04x相比，出了9.04的特性外，有其他区别吗？
[03:36] <ziroday> Hi, what has replaced kooka?
[03:37] <ziroday> nevermind, found it
[03:39] <slicslak> i have kubuntu burnt to a disk and need to do some paritioning
[03:39] <slicslak> is there a partition manager present?
[03:39] <Dragnslcr> gparted should be on there
[03:40] <slicslak> Dragnslcr, that's what thought, but it doesn't seem to be.  at least it's not in the run path.
[03:40] <slicslak> what path do you have it in?
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> Did you check Adept to make sure it's installed?
[03:41] <slicslak> i'm on the livecd
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> Okay
[03:49] <eugen> hey,..how can I synchronize the kde multi desktop feature with the compiz one?
[03:49] <slicslak> arg, i'm getting a 404 not found [ip: 91.189.88.40 80] when trying to install gparted
[04:02] <alex-admin> hi all
[04:03] <holyscott> Is it a know bug that it is next to impossible to get samba working in kubuntu (9.04 RC)
[04:03] <holyscott> ?
[04:04] <alex-admin> i do not know. i work in kubuntu 1-st day
[04:05] <holyscott> I thought I had messed up something, but it don't work on a clean RC upgrade, and I did find a launchpad bug on it.
[04:09] <zaapiel-mobile> dudes
[04:09] <zaapiel-mobile> 9.04 is awesome
[04:09] <zaapiel-mobile> w00t
[04:10] <triune> dont u mean kde 4.2?
[04:10] <triune> been using it for 2 months in 8.10 :D
[04:12] <ajibarra> hi all
[04:15] <ajibarra> i have a problem...who can helps me?
[04:15] <zaapiel-mobile> just ask it
[04:16] <zaapiel-mobile> and someone will help if they can
[04:17] <ajibarra> ok
[04:18] <ajibarra> i connect to microsoft vpn with kvpnc but i must run this program as root, later root overwrites my .ICEAuthority file and then i cant start kde, i must chown this file
[04:19] <ajibarra> i googled that and i read that i can run kvpnc with kdesudo and this dont overwrite the file but if i run kdesudo i cant connect to vpn
[04:35] <kev_> \nick skittlelinux18
[04:35] <kev_> ooops
[04:35] <skittlelinux18> wrong slash lol
[04:35] <skittlelinux18> hey guys i have a quick question
[04:37] <zerothis> Anybody know how to get a Lexmark X4530m working with Linux (scan and print, usb or wireless)?
[04:38] <skittlelinux18> i just downloaded the latest virtualbox-ose .deb file. when i tried to install it, i got an error message telling me: "dependency not satisfiable: libqt4-network" well the problem is that i cannot find that package in apt-get or adept manager... even after updating packages. anyone know where i can get it?
[04:53] <zerothis> skittlelinux18: kev_: synaptic reports that its in us.archive.ubuntu.com/main (intrepid)
[04:54] <kev_> yeah, i had to enable unsupported updates to get it.
[04:54] <kev_> thanks, though zerothis
[05:03] <cheratto> buenas
[05:43] <mbrush> can anyone help me troubleshoot a no sound issue?
[05:44] <mbrush> I'm running ubuntu 8.10 and KDE from the repositories.  Is there a separate package besides ALSA that I need in KDE to make this work?
[05:46] <mbrush> If it helps I have "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)"
[05:47] <mbrush> sound works fine if I reboot into my Gnome installation
[05:49] <mbrush> ok, well thanks anyway, I'll just boot into my other partition until the next release ... cheers
[05:56] <eugen> hey,..how can I synchronize the kde multi desktop feature with the compiz one?
[06:11] <pteague> anybody know why i can't get vlc out of fullscreen mode?
[06:11] <pteague> nm, think i got it
[07:05] <k1en> say , if i want to run konqueror in chinese on an english session, which pacakage do i need?
[07:06] <yaa_> gook.i386
[07:06] <raphink> k1en: afaik, you can only change the language of the whole KDE session, not of one program
[07:07] <raphink> and in this case, you need kde-i18n-zhcn or kde-i18n-zhtw
[07:07] <raphink> whether you want simplified or traditional chinese
[07:07] <k1en> raphink, the thing is i'm running konqueror on gnome
[07:07] <raphink> ah ok
[07:07] <raphink> well then you can install this
[07:07] <raphink> or rather language-pack-kde-zh
[07:07] <k1en> so i do need the whole langauge pack then.,...
[07:07] <raphink> and then launch KDE's system settings, set the language you want by default
[07:08] <raphink> k1en: yes
[07:08] <raphink> but it's not so big
[07:08] <k1en> i dont think i have kde langauge setting in gnome
[07:08] <raphink> it's just translation files
[07:08] <raphink> k1en: try the command line : systemsettings
[07:30] <xile> Anyone alive?
[07:30] <bazhang> surely
[07:31] <xile> Hi.
[07:31] <Byron> I was attempting to get my built-in microphone to work, but now I lost audio.
[07:32] <Byron> I installed the alsa driver from the homepage as instructed, rebooted and now I don't have in/out audio.
[07:34] <xile> A lot of people.
[07:39] <almarax> hi
[07:46] <asssssdasdff> anyone here
[07:46] <Kasm279> i am
[07:46] <asssssdasdff> good
[07:46] <asssssdasdff> see you
[07:46] <Kasm279> ok, how do i update to KDE 4.2?
[07:47] <Kasm279> !KDE 4.2
[07:47] <Kasm279> !KDE
[07:47] <Kasm279> !KDE4
[08:01] <blood> i use kubuntu8.04
[08:01] <k0pp> hey guys.. i've got an onboard sound card, and a PCI sound card.. I'm wanting to use the PCI card for playing sound from music/movies etc.. and the onboard one for my headset for conferencing and such.. i cant figure out how to do this
[08:02] <k0pp> anyone have any ideas?
[08:02] <blood> witch kde is used ?
[08:02] <k0pp> blood, 3.5
[08:02] <blood> thanks
[08:02] <k0pp> sure
[09:01] <pkt> is there a way to command konqueror to open a url in the existing window/tab from command line ?
[09:01] <pkt> (e.g., through D-Bus)
[09:01] <pkt> there is a currentURL property but it is readonly
[09:02] <pkt> alternatively, could this be done with firefox?
[09:11] <hunter_> hi folks, who has experiences with nmap? i have a littel problem and i am lost... nmap..
[09:13] <mp_> hey, can someone give me a hint, I want to assign a keyboard-shortcut to change workspaces (like Ctrl+Alt+Left)
[09:13] <mp_> but can't figure out where and how
[09:14] <mp_> hunter_: what's the problem?
[09:16] <hunter_> the problem is that when i scan an ip, i should can with the right commands ( nmap -sV ) also the mac address. but it isnt and now i have the feeling that there is something not straight setup with nmap, maybe.. i am just guessing now.
[09:16] <hunter_> but strange.. also with other commands, it doesn gave the mac..
[09:20] <mp_> hunter_: the ip address you are scanning, is it in the same subnet or do you have any routers between it?
[09:21] <hunter_> wir können auch deutsch. ist ein anderes sub
[09:22] <hunter_> ich experimentiere seit tagen und bekomme keinen reim darauf. hab auch verscuht mich selbst zu scannen, auch ohne ergebniss
[09:24] <zorglu_> q. how to make a usb key from a iso image ?
[09:24] <bazhang> hunter_, english here, german in #ubuntu-de or #kubuntu-de
[09:24] <bazhang> zorglu_, which version of ubuntu
[09:24] <zorglu_> bazhang: 9?04
[09:24] <bazhang> zorglu_, #ubuntu+1 for that
[09:24] <zorglu_> arf
[09:25] <zorglu_> bazhang: ok 8.10 then
[09:25] <bazhang> zorglu_, what does uname -a say
[09:25] <hunter_> ok, sry
[09:25] <zorglu_> bazhang: ?
[09:25] <zorglu_> !usb
[09:26] <bazhang> zorglu_, in a terminal
[09:26] <zorglu_> there! :)
[09:31] <zorglu_> bazhang: it did the job. thanks but play less hot potatoes
[09:57] <quantum> hi there
[09:57] <quantum> I am looking for a plasmoid to show cpu and ram usage like the one on windows vista. ... can anybody tell me ?
[10:00] <hunter_> KSystemLog for linux
[10:10] <archibald> #join ubuntu-fr
[10:11] <ct529> anyone who knows where to find good linux based NAS devices?
[10:12] <mp_> depends on what you want to do with it, ct529
[10:12] <Idhan> I have two dvd units, I have insert a dvd in one of them, how can I mount the dvd?
[10:16] <CQ> hello, I have a wlan with a hidden SSID which is set to autoconnect, but it never connects, the last lien in /var/log/messages is ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready  ... any ideas?
[10:22] <CQ> how can I manually connecto to a hidden wlan with hidden SSID?
[10:22] <ct529> mp_: well, storage
[10:24] <eagles0513875> mu-tu: that is really strange bro
[10:28] <Idhan> how can I tell my dvdplayer to search in my second dvd unit ??
[10:29] <Idhan> to play a DVD
[10:32] <ct529> mp_: what else do you want to do with a NAS?
[10:33] <mp_> something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2 ;)
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:40] <k1en> say , how do i make konqueror respond to double click instead of one click
[10:40] <k1en> ?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> k1en: KMenu > System Tools > Mouse
[10:41] <Idhan> k1en: systemsettings-> mouse settings
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> k1en: you can choose single click or double click to open
[10:42] <k1en> the thing is im running konqueror on gnome
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> k1en: then it will be in your gnome settings thingy
[10:43] <ct529> mp_: yes, but it is still a storage device .... I would need somethingexpandable, able to go up to some TB, with a business warranty .... and reasonably cost effective (got a look at transtec and they start at unreasonable prices)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> k1en: open Nautilus file browser, click Edit/Preferences/Behavior, and the option for single click is in there. Maybe it will permeate to konqueror too
[10:44] <k1en> ActionParsnip, nautilus is okay, im installing "systemsettings" maybe that will solve it
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> k1en: yeah that would make sense
[10:46] <Douglas_E> a pentium III is an i386 right?
[10:46] <k1en> ActionParsnip, not enough options in that, maybe i need to install kde
[10:47] <Douglas_E> klen what are you trying to do?
[10:48] <altrortla> #openoffice
[10:48] <Douglas_E> altrortla: you need to have a slashJoin before that
[10:48] <altrortla> find openoffice
[10:49] <altrortla> Douglas_E: eh?
[10:49] <altrortla> Douglas_E: explane me better
[10:49] <Douglas_E> if you want to join the openoffice channel than you need to have a /join
[10:49] <Douglas_E> and then the channel name with the # before it.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: try /join #openoffice.org
[10:50] <altrortla> Douglas_E: azz... to reduce Spam?
[10:50] <altrortla> ok...
[10:51] <altrortla> ! find | openoffice
[10:55] <MarkieMark1> !find openoffice | altrortla
[10:57] <altrortla> thank you to everybody ... i'm very satisfied... :-)
[10:57] <vari> hello
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> hi
[11:05] <drbobb> hey, if the xserver crashes, isn't kdm supposed to try to restart it? at least a few times, before giving up?
[11:06] <drbobb> or is there some config option to control that?
[11:08] <drbobb> i'm sure it did that on kde3, hmm
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: not sure of that, check you xorg log to see whats going on
[11:14] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: i did that, the xserver is crashing on logout due to some memory management issues
[11:14] <drbobb> what i'm wondering about is why doesn't kdm restart it
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: not sure, i'd log a bug
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: or see if its a known bug
[11:15] <drbobb> on hardy, when some app crashes the xserver, i get back to the login screen
[11:16] <drbobb> ok maybe i'm not being clear
[11:17] <drbobb> the xserver crashing is in my case a known bug (that I doubt will be fixed)
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: if it an x server bug i'd think it would
[11:19] <drbobb> it's a bug with the sis video driver I think
[11:19] <mu-tu> I just installed kubuntu and i have no sound! can someone help?
[11:19] <drbobb> and nobody seems to be working on that driver any more
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> mu-tu: can you give the output of  lspci | grep -i audio
[11:21] <mu-tu> Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> !intelhda
[11:22] <drbobb> ok to answer myself: yes there are options in kdmrc to control restarting the xserver, so maybe I can work around this issue (somewhat)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: i'd go with the no one is working on the driver statement but i could be wrong
[11:39] <francy> ki conosce un programma per la gestione dei MIDI?
[11:41] <MarkieMark1> !it | francy
[11:41] <francy> tnk
[11:42] <donG_> although u can find energyXT
[11:42] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: i believe there never was more than 1 person working on the sis video driver, and he lost interest iiuc
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: always handy
[11:43] <drbobb> there really ought to be a page somewhere with a big fat warning: Linux users, do NOT EVER buy a laptop with SiS video
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: what lappy is it?
[11:44] <drbobb> acer aspire 5002
[11:44] <drbobb> ok gotta run
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> good ol acer
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> NOT
[12:19] <vmt> Hello all :) Im looking for a webbased project management software with documentation and document upload. Someone knows good stuff?
[12:31] <barry_> salut lex
[12:36] <bazhang> !fr
[12:45] <chfwiggum> hi all! why does it say permission denied when i try to sudo zcat > my usb drive? tia
[12:53] <CQ> is it mounted read-only?
[14:07] <compilerwriter> So what would be a good resource to tell me how to hook up an internal hard drive in *nix?
[14:08] <SlimeyPete> !mount
[14:08] <ziroday> Hi, for some reason I have my opened apps on shutdown started by defualt on bootup. How do I disable that?
[14:11] <koleesch> hello
[14:11] <koleesch> i need some help with my kde
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:13] <ziroday> Hi, for some reason I have my opened apps on shutdown started by defualt on bootup. How do I disable that?
[14:13] <EagleScreen> !ask | koleesch
[14:13] <koleesch> ok
[14:14] <koleesch> the sudo dialogs in kde dont' want my password
[14:14] <Dragnslcr> ziroday- System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[14:14] <ziroday> Dragnslcr: thanks
[14:14] <koleesch> i've installed ubuntu jaunty and then i've installed kde
[14:15] <Ciros> Koleesch: sudo -s
[14:15] <EagleScreen> koleesch: how did you install KDE?
[14:15] <EagleScreen> koleesch: you masu install kubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <Ciros> that will wheel you to root.
[14:15] <koleesch> with synaptic and the package kubuntu-desktop
[14:16] <koleesch> ciros: that doesn't work
[14:17] <EagleScreen> koleesch: is KDE asking for password using KDESu or kdesudo?
[14:17] <koleesch> kdeSudo
[14:18] <EagleScreen> and does sudo works ina terminal?
[14:18] <koleesch> yes in the terminal sudo works
[14:18] <wimpies> hi all, which version of Qt is available for intrepid kubuntu ?
[14:19] <EagleScreen> wimpies: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:19] <koleesch> EagleScreen: the command in the dialog is qt-language-selector --mode install
[14:19] <EagleScreen> libqt4 4.4.3-0ubuntu1.2 in intrepid-updates
[14:20] <ghostcube> wimpies: 4.5 in ppa as i remember correct
[14:20] <EagleScreen> koleesch: is it failing only for that command?
[14:21] <EagleScreen> koleesch: can you run kdesudo synaptic (for instance) in a terminal?
[14:21] <wimpies> ghostcube : what is ppa ? ... I need the qt4.5 libs (because of some 4.4.3 bugs)
[14:21] <bazhang> !ppa
[14:22] <EagleScreen> wimpies: KDE 4.5 also have bugs, and some rendering glitches
[14:22] <wimpies> yes but those do not bother me  ... the ones in 4.4.3 break my app :(
[14:23] <koleesch> EagleScreen: yes i can run kdesudo synaptic, but i get the message: /var/tmp/kde-cache-username is owned by 1000 instead of 0
[14:24] <koleesch> EagleScreen: and the same message for directory /tmp/kde-username
[14:24] <wimpies> ghostcube : do you think that I can replace 4.4.3 qt libs with 4.5 libs in intrepid or do you think i need to run time independently ?
[14:24] <ghostcube> wimpies: iam checking right now
[14:24] <EagleScreen> wimpies: you may can install qt 4.5 from any ppa in Intrepid, but it may cause some dependence problems with another packages, and it could break some application in Intrepid
[14:25] <EagleScreen> wimpies: note that Kubuntu Jaunty is going to be released in a week, and it becomes with Qt 4.5 well integrated, or you can download the RC version if you cannot wait
[14:27] <wimpies> eaglescreen : For my desktop PC and laptop i will wait for jaunty.  However I have this eee-701 I want to use with easypeasy (formerly eee-ubuntu) and that runs intrepid.  So I am checking my options
[14:30] <ghostcube> wimpies: is this intrepid ?
[14:30] <ghostcube> https://launchpad.net/~jefferai/+archive/ppa
[14:30] <ghostcube> check this
[14:30] <ghostcube> qt 4.5 rc1
[14:30] <ghostcube> but i cant tell you if this works
[14:33] <wimpies> Thx ghostcube
[14:33] <ghostcube> np
[14:34] <Zaurak> Bonsoir
[14:34] <ghostcube> salut
[14:36] <Zaurak> Je suis pas sur de m'adresser au bon endroit : Je voudrais savoir si un bug graphique avec le LiveCD pour Kubuntu_AMD64 pourrait disparaitre avec GNOME ou encore à l'install
[14:36] <bazhang> !fr
[14:36] <Zaurak> OK, sorry
[14:42] <ghostcube> anyone has an ppa with 180.44 for me
[14:42] <ghostcube> on intrepid
[14:42] <ghostcube> i dont find any useful
[14:54] <ka> hi
[14:56] <ka> I use kubuntu 8.20. I wonder how can I see localhost on a virtual machine set up in virtualbox installed with ubuntu server and lamp from the host machine?
[14:56] <bazhang> ka 8.10?
[14:57] <ka> I believe so. 6 days left so...
[14:57] <ka> I'll wait
[14:57] <bazhang> ka 8.10 or beta 9.04
[14:58] <ka> I use kubuntu 8.10 on my host machine
[14:58] <vlada_> hi
[14:59] <bazhang> ka, and your kubuntu has a ubuntu virtualbox running on top of it with a server?
[14:59] <ka> jupp
[14:59] <ka> thats yes
[15:00] <bazhang> ka, any reason for this? instead of just having lamp on kubuntu itself?
[15:00] <vlada_> where is linuxsampler package? I can't find it at all. Is it because being GPL+exception licenced?
[15:00] <vlada_> if so, where can I find it?
[15:00] <ka> I want it to easily be movable to other hardware without losing downtime...
[15:00] <bazhang> vlada_, what is that?
[15:01] <vlada_> (kubuntu newbie, but not linux newbie)
[15:01] <vlada_> bazhang: it's audio application
[15:01] <bazhang> !info linuxsampler
[15:02] <ka> I found some mention of a kernelmodule called vboxnetflt do I have to install this?
[15:02] <bazhang> vlada_, to do what exactly
[15:02] <vlada_> it is interpreting midi data using gigs sampler files
[15:03] <vlada_> !info qsampler
[15:03] <bazhang> !info ardour
[15:04] <vlada_> bazhang: you see what I'm talking about..?
[15:04] <vlada_> !info liblscp
[15:04] <ka> Hm I think I found the solution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[15:04] <vlada_> !info liblscp2
[15:05] <vlada_> bazhang: everything is there except linuxsampler itself, which is most important application
[15:07] <bazhang> vlada_, and what happens when you install qsampler? does it not pull in linuxsampler?
[15:07] <vlada_> bazhang: nope
[15:08]  * vlada_ wanders how strange it sounds when "ubuntu lefts kubuntu"? :)
[15:10] <vlada_> bbl
[15:10] <vlada_> bazhang: thank you for helping
[15:10] <vlada_> if you find some info, please leave me comment here
[15:11] <bazhang> vlada_, sorry not to know more
[15:13] <ubuntu_> qt 4.5.0 has rendering problems for me
[15:20] <koleesch> kdesudo don't want my password
[15:20] <koleesch> can anyone help me
[15:26] <BluesKaj> koleesch , are you using the run command or the terminal ?
[15:27] <koleesch> no, i want to change some repositories in packagekit
[15:27] <koleesch> and  my password don't fit
[15:28] <BluesKaj> change your repositories in adept
[15:28] <BluesKaj> or your sources.list
[15:29] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[15:30] <koleesch> i use jaunty and i don't have installed adept
[15:30] <koleesch> my problem is the my kdesudo login won't work for all kde application that need this
[15:30] <BluesKaj> yes you do , it's the main package manager
[15:30] <BluesKaj> default aamof
[15:31] <BluesKaj> bbl
[15:31] <koleesch> gksu doesn't work too
[15:32] <genii-around> kdesudo won't fork for GTK apps and gksu won't work for KDE apps. Thats just how it is
[15:33] <eugen> hey I'm trying to install lives, but I'm getting this were when I do ./configure  "configure: error: Cannot find pkg-config, make sure it is installed and in your PATH"
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> eugen: did you install build-essential?
[15:34] <eugen> probably not...
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> try it
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> it might solve that problem
[15:41] <eugen> Slimey: I get this now:  configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0) were not met:
[15:41] <eugen>  how do I install gtk?
[15:44] <genii-around> eugen: Maybe ask about gtk stuff in #ubuntu
[15:45] <orzel> hello. I have a computer which was updated from 8.04 to 8.10 (kde3 to kde4), and there's no more the 'adept notifier'. "apt-get install adept-notifier" doesn't work neither.. how is this supposed to work now ? if ever..
[15:47] <micm92> hi
[15:48] <ign0ramus> Hey all.
[15:49] <ign0ramus> I never really took notice to this, but I'm at work on a Windows machine... When you receive attachments or inline pictures in email in Kubuntu, are the pictures significantly blurrier than if you were to open the same mail in Kubuntu?
[15:50] <ign0ramus> This is true for inline pictures/attachments in gmail, hotmail, and yahoo...
[15:51] <ign0ramus> ^ Woops.  I meant they are blurry in Kubuntu, but crystal clear in Windows.  Sorry.
[15:54] <ign0ramus> Same problem as here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823027  I guess I'll try the suggestion when I get home.
[16:00] <chris__> hello, I have a nubi question
[16:00] <chris__> how do I switch from Gnome to KDE?  It's installed, but I can't find where to make that selection.
[16:00] <eugen> hey how can I install mlt in kubuntu?
[16:00] <Dragnslcr> On the login screen
[16:00] <eugen> I need to isntall the latest version, I dont know how
[16:01] <chris__> So, I have to log out, then log back in?
[16:01] <Dragnslcr> chris__- There should be a menu option for session type
[16:01] <eugen> i have 0.3.4 , and I need 0.3.8
[16:01] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[16:02] <chris__> Okay, I'm looking
[16:06] <chris__> I'm going to try to restart session.  Thank you for your help.
[16:07] <Byron> I installed the alsa driver from the homepage as instructed to have my built-in microphone working, but when I rebooted, I don't have audio or microphone working.
[16:08] <Byron> I'm on the Acer Aspire One
[16:10] <Byron> Any help in resolving this issue is greatly appreciated.
[16:15] <Byron> !audio
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Byron, do: alsamixer in the terminal, make sure the ctrl sliders are up to 70% and the "M" in the box at the bottom of the ctrls are unmuted by using the M key.
[16:20] <BluesKaj> unmuted=00
[16:21] <Byron> BluesKaj: they are all at 00 and 100%
[16:22] <chris__> Okay, I got the session switched, but it didn't really fix my problem I had.
[16:22] <BluesKaj> 100% is too high , the sound inputs will clip if you go to 100%
[16:23] <BluesKaj> as well as the outputs
[16:23] <chris__> My video driver must be bunk
[16:24] <Byron> BluesKaj: I wish I had audio to clip :(
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Byron , what kind of sound setup do you have ...pci soundcard, on board, or both
[16:24] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:24] <chris__> I can only get 800x600
[16:24] <Byron> It is on-board. It's on the Acer Aspire One netbook
[16:25] <Byron> chris__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:26] <chris__> I'll try that
[16:26] <Byron> Byron: I'm following the instructions now to have the manually installed alsa driver removed and go back to K/Ubuntu's defaults.
[16:26] <chris__> I'm a nubi, so it might take a bit
[16:27] <BluesKaj> Byron, that xorg command may not work on the newer releases..the xorh.conf file depends heavily on HAL so editing xorg.conf isn't as simple as it once was
[16:28] <Byron> I did not know that. I guess I've been fortunate with video
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Byron, yeah , alsa usually recognizes most soundcards and provides the right drivers by default
[16:29] <BluesKaj> unless it's intel , there seems to be some media probs with intel onboards
[16:31] <chris__> I'm trying to ultimately get XP to run on VirtualBox OSE
[16:31] <chris__> but it's all bubbly and huge
[16:32] <Byron> BluesKaj: It was working great, but not the microphone. Someone mentioned to install the alsa driver, which I did, and then I lost audio. It is recognized, but I want to go back to K/Ubuntu's defaults.
[16:34] <w-heat> hi, am I doing something wrong? I can't seem to upgrade to amarok 2.02...
[16:35] <w-heat> is there a package for this? (if not, does anyone know when there will be?)
[16:35] <BluesKaj> Byron , alsa merely runs the right driver for the card . Removing alsa won't make any diff , it might screw things up read this , it will help : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[16:42] <Byron> BluesKaj: OK. The only change is the alsa driver install which I did last night
[16:42] <Dragnslcr> w-heat- looks like 2.0.2 is the current version for Kubuntu 9.04
[16:43] <Dragnslcr> w-heat- I don't know if there's a package for it for 8.10
[16:43] <BluesKaj> alsa isn't a driver, it just links the generic default driver
[16:43] <dalep> g
[16:43] <BluesKaj> or whatever driver is otherwise installed
[16:44] <Byron> BluesKaj: Sorry, I'm referencing the tarball alsa-driver-1.0.18a
[16:44] <w-heat> Dragnslcr: ah, thanks for the info - I'm on 8.10 and will wait until the 24th for 9.04... guess I'll just have to sit tight
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Byron, is your mobo intel based ?
[16:45] <kenan> !pdf
[16:45] <Byron> BluesKaj: Yes, I believe so.
[16:58] <MatthiasMuenchen> hi all. i have a problem with the latest kubuntu 9.04 RC. I try to connect to my router via WLAN, the plasmoid shows me the available accesspoints. I press my AP, I get asked for my WPA-PSK but then there is no connection possible, it simply stops
[16:58] <genii-around> !jaunty
[17:01] <BluesKaj> Byron, in the konsole : cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:02] <Byron> 2 lines...
[17:02] <Byron>  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[17:02] <Byron>                       HDA Intel at 0x56340000 irq 16
[17:03] <BluesKaj> Byron, try : aplay -l
[17:03] <genii-around> !intelhda
[17:03] <BluesKaj> ahha there it is , thx genii-around :)
[17:04] <genii-around> BluesKaj:  :) Anytime
[17:04] <Byron> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC272 Analog [ALC272 Analog]
[17:04] <Byron>   Subdevices: 1/1
[17:04] <Byron>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[17:04] <genii-around> Those Intel HDA and knockoffs are problemmatic
[17:04] <BluesKaj> lotta probs with intel media theses days ...sorta like ati a few releases ago
[17:06] <BluesKaj> Byron, did you see the URL post from genii-around, above ?
[17:07] <Byron> Yes, I am going through it now and following the steps
[17:07] <dalep> g
[17:11] <Byron> I'm going to reboot and see if that does anything. I'll BRB and let you know if it works or not
[17:15] <GortiZ> just an help, i want to setup kubuntu in a way that every time i compile something it will use -j 5 as an option to parallelize the compilation, i was used to use gentoo and in that i've setted a variable into the make.conf. How can I obtain the same on KUbuntu?
[17:17] <Byron> BluesKaj: Ok, now I don't have an audio card
[17:17] <Byron> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[17:18] <Byron> aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found...
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Byron, lspci | grep audio
[17:19] <GortiZ> no one 'bout parallel compilation under ubuntu? i've searched on google but i can't find anything..
[17:21] <Byron> BluesKaj: Came back with nothing, just a new prompt
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Byron, look in adept for alsa and pulseaudio , install them if they are missing
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: grep -i audio ;)
[17:25] <Byron> they are all installed
[17:26] <Byron> sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[17:26] <Byron> all installed and latest version
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Byron: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24937
[17:37] <BluesKaj> Byron,  /.asoundrc set-default-card "Intel ALC272"
[17:37] <costin> helloo
[17:38] <BluesKaj> more raking to do , BBL
[17:40] <costin>  ,chanel of romania? is ubuntu_ro ? plzz help
[17:42] <costin> ?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> !ro
[17:43] <costin> danke <ubottu>
[17:45] <Hystoriker_> ActionParsnip: i have now got rid of the WPA encryption on my router and the connection still doesn't work
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Hystoriker_: try rebooting the router, it can help sometimes
[17:51] <Byron> ActionParsnip: That link is over 4 years old
[17:51] <Byron> BluesKaj: Do that where?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Byron: the man page for cp is even older, but still used
[17:56] <kanonmat_> maybe go for oss instead of alsa as a last resort?
[17:57] <kanonmat_> idk how that works with arts and stuff
[17:57] <kubukaba_> knetworkmanager wont connect to my Zycel router with encryption on
[18:02] <aga> i take it you setup the connection kubukaba_?
[18:03] <Yud_Zroc> im having a dpi problem any pointers
[18:04] <Byron> I rebooted and I'm being told that the sound devices have been removed. The prompt is asking if I want KDE to do away with them.
[18:04] <Byron> How can I reinstall the devices?
[18:04] <kubukaba_> aga, I am using Ubuntu for 3 years, and last year networkmanager hat the same problem - seems that kMN is just @ this stage of development now. I have just no idea how to channel my message to the confusing Linux-buerocracy to the right developer
[18:06] <aga> ubuntu != kubuntu, and i think the network managers are also different
[18:06] <Yud_Zroc> how do i increase my dpi so i can use ubuntu
[18:06] <aga> jeez i dunno what's wrong with my eyes today
[18:07] <aga> i think the best should be to fill a bug report anyway kubukaba_
[18:09] <kubukaba_> aga, sure,  bug report, but where to?
[18:09] <aga> hmmm i will try to find the link, i dont fill many of those
[18:10] <kubukaba_> aga, thx
[18:10] <aga> are you using ubuntu or kubuntu finally?
[18:11] <aga> kubukaba_?
[18:12] <kubukaba_> aga, yep?
[18:12] <aga> are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[18:12] <aga> for ubuntu this may help kubukaba_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[18:13] <ubuntu> Kubuntu
[18:13] <aga> need to go for a while
[18:13] <ubuntu> thanks
[18:21] <Byron> Would I be better off reinstalling Kubuntu on here and regaining my packages through dselect?
[18:22] <Byron> I can't seem to get audio to play and it seems to be making things worse... I went from audio, no mic to no audio and no mic and now I'm at no audio devices.
[18:23] <joshjtl> do i need something in particular to get amarok to play my flac audio?
[18:26] <joshjtl> ok, I can't play flac on Amarok
[18:27] <chfwiggum> how can i change the audio backend from gstreamer back to xine? tia
[18:27] <chfwiggum> i have no sound with amarok only
[18:29] <Deksam> Hi all
[18:29] <kanonmat_> maybe install libflac8, joshjtl
[18:30] <joshjtl> kannan: thanks, but already installed
[18:31] <theuser1> http://us.mc387.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?&.rand=1863956053&needG#_pg=compose&&.rand=345739334&clean&.jsrand=9
[18:31] <theuser1> how to change my pasword or any other user's pasword?
[18:31] <theuser1> sory for the link
[18:32] <theuser1> helo
[18:32] <Deksam> I've got a question, its pretty frustrating
[18:33] <Deksam> I just loaded up a new Ubuntu Server,
[18:33] <Deksam> its set on DHCP and its pulling down an IP... it'll ping out.....
[18:33] <kanonmat_> chfwiggum: amarok settings > engine, set sound system to xine, perhaps
[18:33] <Deksam> but... it won't get an update..
[18:34] <kanonmat_> passwd, theuser1
[18:34] <Deksam> after I try the update, it won't let me ping anymore
[18:35] <Deksam> gives me the unknown host.... if I reboot, it pings, until I try to access anything outside the network...
[18:35] <theuser1> kanonmat_:  what if i want to chat other users pasword i dont know the current. iam root
[18:36] <kanonmat_> man passwd, superuser can change password for all accounts
[18:38] <Deksam> no ideas I take it? I'm kinda stumped too
[18:38] <kanonmat_> as superuser: # passwd username
[18:39] <kanonmat_> Deksam: dns trouble? idk
[18:40] <Deksam> I thought about that, but its pulling the correct DNS from our server.
[18:40] <Deksam> I mean I'm pretty new to ubuntu, but I'm pretty good at networking
[18:42] <kanonmat_> did you use networkmanager to set up network?
[18:42] <somekool> Hi ! I isntalled a new xscreensaver saver but I cannot load it from KDE
[18:42] <somekool> i can load all other default xscreensaver. what could be the trouble?
[18:43] <kanonmat_> are you not running kscreensaver?
[18:45] <Deksam> no I didn't go through the network manager, but I checked the interfaces to make sure everything is set up right
[18:45] <kanonmat_> good
[18:47] <Deksam> nothing really changed... and unfortunately I don't know my way around the command line interface well enough yet to know what else to check
[18:48] <kanonmat_> can you ping your dhcp server?
[18:48] <kanonmat_> traceroute perhaps?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> or nmap
[18:48] <kanonmat_> somekool: i have my screensavers as .xml files in /usr/share/xscreensaver/config
[18:49] <kanonmat_> look there
[18:49] <Deksam> I can ping my server
[18:49] <Deksam> internal network seems okay
[18:49] <Deksam> see wait
[18:49] <Deksam> now... I can ping yahoo.com
[18:50] <kanonmat_> my isp blocks ping, you are lucky :)
[18:50] <Deksam> heheh
[18:50] <Deksam> well I'm getting out fine now, but as soon as I try to update it stalls on the update
[18:50] <Deksam> and then I won't be able to ping out again
[18:51] <kanonmat_> oh, i was too hasty, somekool, the xml only controls the screensavers :)
[18:51] <jbb> hi, i'm using kde4, any idea on how to get a menu to configure which partition is mounted where ?
[18:53] <kanonmat_> i feel safer just editing /etc/fstab, jbb
[18:54] <jbb> kanonmat_ that's a way, but i know there is a graphical tool for kde3, any idea where is the kde4 one ?
[18:54] <kanonmat_> im currently on kde3 :)
[18:57] <Scherenhaenden> hi
[18:58] <somekool> i got it to work, but it does not support xinerama/twinhead
[18:58] <Deksam> Kanonmat_ I don't know what happened, but its dowloading the package now... ..
[18:58] <somekool> that is so unfortunate
[18:59] <kanonmat_> look in /usr/lib/xscreensaver/
[19:00] <kanonmat_> otherwise do: updatedb ; locate yourscreensaver
[19:01] <kanonmat_> maybe you can write a xml for it, there's a /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/README
[19:02] <kanonmat_> maybe electricsheep works in another way
[19:03] <d3jake> I am trying to upgrade Kubuntu 6.06LTS to 8.08 using the package "update-manager-tool" mentioned on this page:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades But when I try to install it it gives me a strange error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/152947/ Any ideas as to what's causing it?
[19:05] <d3jake> I would have just installed or upgraded from a CD, but the CD drive in this laptop needs to be replaced.
[19:08] <Deksam> have you updated before the upgrade?
[19:09] <genii-around> d3jake: You can force version number of which to install. The version number is as reported from result of apt-cache policy <packagename>.In my case this would have a line like: Candidate: 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.1 in the result.Then something like: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-common=2.4.1-1ubuntu2.1            will install specifically that
[19:10] <d3jake> I have updated before trying to upgrade. I upgraded all of the package available in the dapper repos, and then added the Hardy repos so I could install that tool.
[19:10] <heitor> #pos
[19:10] <kanonmat_> mixing repos, is that what you should do?
[19:11] <genii-around> Definitely not
[19:11] <d3jake> That's how I got it upgraded last time around when I had a working copy that I upgraded.
[19:12] <Scherenhaenden> hi
[19:12] <Scherenhaenden> i have a question
[19:12] <kanonmat_> you may have installed wrong versions of pkgs, d3jake
[19:12] <Scherenhaenden> i have quassel irc... how can i look for more channels up?
[19:13] <d3jake> kanonmat_ I suppose that could be a problem.....
[19:14] <kanonmat_> i think you should get the sources.list back to its original version
[19:14] <Scherenhaenden> i was having another program when i had gnome... but now i have just kde... it brings quassel... but i cannot find how can i look for more channels
[19:15] <kanonmat_> and then just enable the "dapper-updates" repository
[19:15] <kanonmat_> im using "konversation" Scherenhaenden
[19:16] <Scherenhaenden> konversation is another irc programm?
[19:16] <Scherenhaenden> n u can look for channels up?
[19:16] <kanonmat_> yes, it uses "F5" for a channel list
[19:16] <Scherenhaenden> great... cuz here i cannot look for channels... n my english is not so great hehehe
[19:17] <d3jake> kanonmat_ Should I have any of the hardy repos in my repo list? or just the hardy-upgrades or..?
[19:17] <kanonmat_> isnt there #ubuntu-de?
[19:18] <ubuntu> i'm trying to use kubuntu9.04rc right now!
[19:18] <kanonmat_> i think you should have the dapper repos, some part of the upgrade process will add hardy repos and disable dapper repos
[19:19] <genii-around> d3jake: There should not be any hardy repos in your list yet if you are going lts version to lts version upgrade. The upgrade will do that for you
[19:19] <ubuntu> seems firefox is not to be setted as the default browser
[19:19] <Scherenhaenden> ubuntu-de is with me?
[19:19] <kanonmat_> !de
[19:19] <kanonmat_> i think so, Scherenhaenden :)
[19:20] <d3jake> genii-around: ahh, okay. I guess when I got it working last time it was me just flipping enough switches untill something worked...
[19:20] <kanonmat_> try konversation, i like it :)
[19:20] <Scherenhaenden> how did u know that i speak german?
[19:20] <Scherenhaenden> achso
[19:20] <Scherenhaenden> du sprichst deutsch
[19:20] <kanonmat_> u have scissorhands :)
[19:21] <d3jake> hhe
[19:21] <genii-around> d3jake: The upgrade process has also changed much since days of going from 5.04 to 5.10 and so on as well
[19:21] <Scherenhaenden> ja, genau... sowieso muss ich auch die channels, die aus spanisch sind... weil mein deutsch nicht so
[19:21] <kanonmat_> and there is a way to install from usb nowadays
[19:21] <Scherenhaenden> gut ist... heheh
[19:21] <Scherenhaenden>  danke ;)
[19:22] <kanonmat_> aha :)
[19:22] <kanonmat_> !es
[19:22] <d3jake> kanonmat_ I am not sure if this laptop can boot from a USB drive, that is the problem, or I would.
[19:22] <Scherenhaenden> ok gracias;)
[19:22] <kanonmat_> ok, its an old laptop
[19:23] <Scherenhaenden> tu sabes muchos idiomas :S
[19:23] <d3jake> Not really old... just an HP NC6000, so not really new, but not old....like my old laptop (150MHz vs. 1.6GHz)
[19:23] <kanonmat_> i have an hp nc 6220 :)
[19:23] <R3DB0x> is there anyway to undo updates?  my sound was working till i did the updates that poped up on my system tray and now i have no sound.  i dont remember anything that could have done it...most of what i saw was for pdf and cups and stuff like that but its the only thing i can think of since i had sound 2 hrs ago.
[19:24] <Scherenhaenden> konversation is downloading...
[19:24] <kriox> hi
[19:24] <genii-around> !downgrade | R3DB0x
[19:25] <kanonmat_> i havent tried quassel, xchat is a classic client, a bit ugly in kde
[19:25] <kriox> the questions is: somebody have got problem whit dolphin locale different to english?
[19:25] <kanonmat_> you just want to downgrade some pkgs, R3DB0x?
[19:26] <R3DB0x> kanonmat_: i guess.  you know the little sprocket thing that pops up on the system tray that says there are updates...well i did that and no i have no sound.
[19:28] <kriox> hi anybodi knows because after a upgrading my dolphin is not more in italian?
[19:28] <kanonmat_> look at the end of /var/log/aptitude
[19:28] <kanonmat_> i think it tells what was upgraded
[19:29] <Deksam> how can I set the DISPLAY when executing x-www-browser from xorg from the command line?
[19:32] <R3DB0x> kanonmat_: i went to /var/log/apt and there i term.log and it has stuff from yesterday that i installed but nothing bout the updates for today
[19:32] <kanonmat_> hmm
[19:34] <R3DB0x> i mean the sound was working 2 hrs ago so the updates are the only thing i can think of that would break it
[19:40] <kanonmat_> maybe you installed pulseaudio as a recommendation, im only guessing
[19:41] <R3DB0x> how would i check?
[19:43] <R3DB0x> under sound in system settings i do see pulse audi..and i dont remember it before
[19:45] <R3DB0x> i dont have pulseaudio installed but i have libpulse installed
[19:47] <kanonmat_> ls --sort=time /var/cache/apt/archives      newest comes first
[19:48] <R3DB0x> ok
[19:49] <kanonmat_> im not sure about that, maybe its easier to configure sound
[19:49] <R3DB0x> the first 20 are libcup stuff or cups or ghostscript
[19:51] <Arminius> hi
[19:52] <Arminius> PhilRod can you beleive it? my problem is solved! and I have no idea why... I just started Kubuntu and all worked fine! :o
[19:52] <Arminius> I am sooo happy!
[19:53] <d3jake> Okay, I got the tool installed. Apparently there were some updates from the dapper repo that I hadn't done...somehow...
[19:54] <d3jake> And before I keep asking questions I'll research online instead of possibly wasting the time of the peoples in here.
[19:56] <R3DB0x> kanonmat_: you mentioned configureing the sound...what do i need to do that cause it worked right off the bat when i did my install so im not sure what to do
[19:57] <kanonmat_> sound can be tricky, there are plenty of posts on ubuntuforums.com
[19:58] <kanonmat_> it was a lengthy process before i had sound on my laptop :)
[19:58] <kanonmat_> i ended up with oss
[20:01] <heinkel_111> in which file do i find my dns server settings?
[20:02] <heinkel_111> the system settings cannot parse the xml file it says \
[20:03] <kanonmat_> heinkel_111:  /etc/resolv.conf
[20:03] <heinkel_111> takk
[20:03] <kanonmat_> xml file?
[20:04] <heinkel_111> yep... that is the error message i get in system settings
[20:04] <heinkel_111> don't know how relevant the error message is
[20:05] <d3jake> When I try to run "sudo do-release-upgrade" it complans that it cannot import the apt module. When I try to install the python-apt package I am told it is installed already. Is it maybe a version confilct?
[20:11] <kanonmat_> does this give any output, d3jake?: dpkg -l | grep hardy
[20:12] <d3jake> It just outputs the command again, then outputs the command prompt again d3jake@d3jake-laptop:~$
[20:13] <kanonmat_> are you using bash?
[20:14] <d3jake> I believe, whichever comes default with Kubuntu 6.06LTS
[20:14] <d3jake> I haven't changed it
[20:14] <kanonmat_> ok
[20:14] <luca__> sera
[20:14] <kanonmat_> it appears you dont have any hardy stuff yet
[20:15] <d3jake> 'stuff'? Do I need to add the hard-updates repo then?
[20:15] <kanonmat_> buona sera, luca__
[20:15] <luca__> chi mi sa dare una mano con upuntu 8.10
[20:16] <kanonmat_> no i just meant that you adcidentally could have installed hardy pkgs before your upgrade
[20:16] <d3jake> ohh
[20:16] <d3jake> okay
[20:16] <kanonmat_> !it | luca__
[20:16] <luca__> ok
[20:16] <luca__> grazie
[20:18] <R3DB0x> is there any difference installing kde from a preinstalled ubuntu setup vs using the kubuntu cd?
[20:25] <rmrfslash> Anyone else notice the splash screen in Kubuntu 9.04 (and in 8.10) gets all chopped up and that the fade-in to desktop is choppy
[20:25] <rmrfslash> This happens to me
[20:25] <kanonmat_> there may be some gnome on the default setup, R3DB0x
[20:27] <rmrfslash> No?
[20:27] <R3DB0x> kanonmat_: so it would be cleaner to just use the kubuntu install?
[20:28] <kanonmat_> yes
[20:31] <robeert__> ;)
[20:31]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[20:34] <brice> francais ici ?
[20:35] <brice> ...
[20:35] <aga> !fr | brice
[20:36] <brice> sorry
[20:36] <kanonmat_> no need to be sorry :)
[20:38] <aga> i didn't mean to be mean
[20:39] <kanonmat_> hehe
[20:39] <kanonmat_> ubottu, be more polite!
[20:39] <aga> hahaha
[20:39] <d3jake> ...
[20:39] <d3jake> cool
[20:39] <aga> it's sweet bot tho ;)
[20:39] <kanonmat_> u can set him up for a good joke :)
[20:40] <aga> need to go, got this horrible headache today and this white screen is killing me
[20:40] <aga> cya
[20:40] <kanonmat_> cu
[20:43] <d3jake> What the heck, my Python 2.5 install doesn't have a site-packages directory.
[20:43] <d3jake> but 2.4 does
[20:44] <d3jake> Could that be causing my error? :/
[20:45] <kanonmat_> i have /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/
[20:45] <ale_> s
[20:46] <kanonmat_> i think thats unrelated :)
[20:46] <kanonmat_> does the upgrade use python?
[20:48] <kanonmat_> yes it depends on it
[20:48] <Guest29533> ola
[20:49] <kanonmat_> hi!
[20:49] <kanonmat_> !hi
[20:51] <kanonmat_> my terminal doesnt have the scrollback capacity for me to see all the /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ folders O.o
[20:52] <devilsadvocate> kanonmat_, pipe to less
[20:54] <Yud_Zroc> does this operate under freenode
[20:54] <devilsadvocate> Yud_Zroc, the channel? yes
[20:55] <Yud_Zroc> ok cause im using the kubuntu with 4.0 and im getting my *** handed to my on a silvcer platter
[20:55] <Yud_Zroc> and it came with Konversation
[20:55] <kanonmat_> Konversation works great here
[20:55] <devilsadvocate> Yud_Zroc, ?
[20:55] <kanonmat_> (kde3)
[20:56] <Yud_Zroc> and not chatzilla (cause i cant use FF cause of very very very VERY small fonts
[20:56] <Yud_Zroc> i like kde4....
[20:56] <Yud_Zroc> but it requires alot of tweeking before its usable
[20:56] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: do you have a specific question?
[20:56] <kanonmat_> doesnt ctrl++ work ok in ff?
[20:57] <Yud_Zroc> let me try
[20:57] <Yud_Zroc> the page is fine....the menus are the problem
[20:57] <Mamarok> it works here
[20:57] <Yud_Zroc> u using 3.0
[20:57] <Mamarok> yes
[20:58] <Yud_Zroc> thats y
[20:58] <Yud_Zroc> im using 4
[20:58] <Mamarok> Firefox 4?
[20:58] <Yud_Zroc> no KDE4
[20:58] <Mamarok> you were talking about FF just the line before
[20:58] <Yud_Zroc> yes
[20:58] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: which version of KDE4 do you use?
[20:58] <Yud_Zroc> but the menus on FF and all programs needed to be changed cause the font is like 1
[20:59] <Yud_Zroc> how do i figure that out
[20:59] <Yud_Zroc> Mamarok:
[20:59] <kanonmat_> the font is too small in all apps?
[20:59] <Mamarok> you go to Konqueror, then open the Help menu and then 'About KDE'
[20:59] <Mamarok> kanonmat_: wait till we know the version
[21:00] <kanonmat_> i need to learn patience :)
[21:00] <Yud_Zroc> 4.1.4
[21:00] <Mamarok> ok, so you are using Hardy, right?
[21:00] <Mamarok> or is it Intrepid?
[21:00] <Yud_Zroc> 8.10
[21:00] <Yud_Zroc> intro
[21:00] <Mamarok> ok
[21:01] <Yud_Zroc> almost everything worked out of box
[21:01] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: if you go to the SystemSettings, choose Apperance
[21:01] <Yud_Zroc> i got my dirplay driver using an older nvidia driver....using a new one will screw it up
[21:01] <Mamarok> there you can change the font size of the menus
[21:01] <Yud_Zroc> Mamarok: did that, but it only affects local things...not added third party programs such as FF
[21:02] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: could you please stick to one question at a time ?
[21:02] <Yud_Zroc> oh sorry was talking about KDE :(
[21:03] <Yud_Zroc> everything ids set to 20 Mamarok
[21:03] <Mamarok> well, you need to change the GTK apps size separately, or use Konqueror instead of FF
[21:03] <kanonmat_> opera uses qt
[21:04] <Mamarok> kanonmat_: it's not Free Software, and not in the repos...
[21:04] <Yud_Zroc> well Mamarokthis computer aint for me im bulding it for a co-worker (raising her as a linux child so i wanna make her experiance as enjoyable as posible) is koncorer very good for watching stuff like youtube etvc
[21:05] <kanonmat_> anyway, opera is working well and i use it
[21:05] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: I can use it here, but you need Flash for YouTube
[21:05] <Mamarok> kanonmat_: I know, still, this is a support channel for things we ship...
[21:06] <Yud_Zroc> i installed the flash rstricteds
[21:06] <kanonmat_> ok, no extra fluff
[21:06] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: that should do the trick
[21:07] <Yud_Zroc> well it aint cuase it is teling me to get the latest
[21:07] <DaSkreech> kanonmat_: shift+PgUp to scroll in Terminal
[21:07] <Yud_Zroc> i know how to fix that so onwards
[21:07] <Yud_Zroc> Mamarok: Dragon player is giving me some grief
[21:07] <kanonmat_> DaSkreech: :)
[21:07] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: that's because there is a bug, use VLC instead
[21:08] <Yud_Zroc> ok
[21:08] <kanonmat_> DaSkreech: i set scrollback to  10000 lines
[21:08]  * DaSkreech slightly suggests that Yud_Zroctry Jackalope
[21:08] <Mamarok> yeah, was thinking the same, now it's RC
[21:09] <Yud_Zroc> Mamarok: this user im makeing this for.....has bnever used a windows computer b4 u think Kubuntu is a good start
[21:09] <Yud_Zroc> i dont want her using a virus lol
[21:09] <Mamarok> yes, definitely, but you should install Jaunty, not Intrepid
[21:09] <Yud_Zroc> she got no internet yet
[21:09] <Yud_Zroc> isn Jaunty in beta
[21:09] <Mamarok> as Intrepid ships an older KDE 4.1.4 which is intended for experienced users
[21:10] <Mamarok> no, it's RC since yesterday
[21:10] <Yud_Zroc> RC?
[21:10] <Mamarok> Release Candidate
[21:10] <kanonmat_> jaunty soon out in a couple of days
[21:10] <DaSkreech> Yud_Zroc: It's out in 6 days for all intents and purposes it's basically the same as what you will get in a week
[21:10] <Mamarok> and it will be released on 23rd
[21:10] <Yud_Zroc> ah well i am handing this computer in 3 hours so i dont think i can
[21:10] <DaSkreech> andit's a LOT nicer
[21:11] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: again, you should, it's installed in 20 minutes time for me here
[21:11] <DaSkreech> a) 4.2 is a nice jump over KDE 4.1 and b it feels a lot tighter and more integrated since most KDE3 stuff has been dropped
[21:11] <DaSkreech> Yud_Zroc: What are the list of poblems you have now
[21:11]  * genii-around elbows DaSkreech into #ubuntu-release-party
[21:11] <DaSkreech> Ow!
[21:12] <DaSkreech> I needed those ribs
[21:12] <genii-around> Hehe
[21:12] <Mamarok> genii-around: you got me
[21:13] <Yud_Zroc> Mamarok: well i got to download it
[21:13] <zaapiel-mobile> wat up
[21:13] <DaSkreech> Yud_Zroc: how long is the download time for you?
[21:14] <zaapiel-mobile> whats up with dolphin dudes in 9.04
[21:14] <Yud_Zroc> no idea
[21:14] <zaapiel-mobile> its super slow when i open a directory full of pdfs
[21:14] <Yud_Zroc> but my time is almost up
[21:14] <zaapiel-mobile> i think it must be trying to show a preview or something
[21:14] <zaapiel-mobile> it lags out basically
[21:14] <zaapiel-mobile> and im on a fast computer
[21:14] <DaSkreech> Yud_Zroc: ok fine we'll try help you with the problems as is
[21:14] <DaSkreech> zaapiel-mobile: Close the info panel
[21:14] <Mamarok> zaapiel-mobile: click on the preview button on top
[21:15] <Soyburg> good day
[21:15] <zaapiel-mobile> that worked DaSkreech
[21:15] <zaapiel-mobile> still though
[21:15] <zaapiel-mobile> i liek previews
[21:15] <zaapiel-mobile> hope that speeds up
[21:15] <DaSkreech> zaapiel-mobile: It will for 4.3
[21:15] <zaapiel-mobile> heh
[21:15] <zaapiel-mobile> always tommorow
[21:15] <DaSkreech> Or rather it has
[21:15] <zaapiel-mobile> <3 kde
[21:16] <DaSkreech> If you have a full nepomukstore it's fast as well
[21:16] <DaSkreech> but Nepomuk is getting a bit of restructure love now
[21:16] <zaapiel-mobile> thats the new semantic search thing isnt it?
[21:16] <zaapiel-mobile> like a kde beagle
[21:17] <Yud_Zroc> VLC is giving me too
[21:17] <zaapiel-mobile> okular kind of sucks too
[21:17] <zaapiel-mobile> no offense
[21:17] <zaapiel-mobile> lol
[21:18] <jklhjklhjkh> what is the best way to update to 9.04 from 8.10?
[21:18] <Yud_Zroc> it detects it goes to start up then bam....nothing
[21:18] <zaapiel-mobile> well id reformat jklhjklhjkh
[21:18] <zaapiel-mobile> 9.04 has ext4 support
[21:18] <Mamarok> zaapiel-mobile: works fine here
[21:18] <zaapiel-mobile> ext4 ftw
[21:18] <Mamarok> zaapiel-mobile: there are issues...
[21:18] <zaapiel-mobile> with what?
[21:18] <zaapiel-mobile> ext4?
[21:18] <zaapiel-mobile> dont tell me that
[21:18] <zaapiel-mobile> i just formated my whole box with it
[21:19] <Mamarok> with ext4, read before you change, you might be disapointed
[21:19] <Soyburg> I do have a rather tricky question about konqueror and profiles.  I would like to save the number of rows for icon text in the filemanagement profile.  I suppose it is a key:value thing I need in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/filemanagement.  Any help on wha the key might be please?
[21:19] <DaSkreech> jklhjklhjkh: Currently?
[21:19] <zaapiel-mobile> my fav thing is how they make it so easy to setup full disk encryption
[21:19] <zaapiel-mobile> im on a lappy
[21:19] <DaSkreech> Yud_Zroc: Run it from konsole and see what it's doing
[21:20]  * Yud_Zroc dont know how to do that
[21:20] <zaapiel-mobile> got dat AES 256 son
[21:20] <jklhjklhjkh> DaSkreech: yes i dont mind formatting but if i can with out that is cool also
[21:20] <DaSkreech> Soyburg: Not sure but #kde might help as well
[21:20] <Mamarok> zaapiel-mobile: please, this is a support channel, don't ramble
[21:20] <zaapiel-mobile> o
[21:20] <zaapiel-mobile> ok
[21:20] <Soyburg> thanks DaSkreech, I'll go there and ask the question.  Sorry for asking here if it was inappropriate.
[21:20] <zaapiel-mobile> have an ot chan?
[21:21] <Mamarok> zaapiel-mobile: #kubutu-offtopic
[21:22] <Yud_Zroc> how do u open VLC through terminal
[21:23] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: just type vlc
[21:23] <Soyburg> type vlc and you are good to go.
[21:27] <Yud_Zroc> error >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/153024/
[21:30] <Daskreech> jklhjklhjkh: Hello?
[21:30] <tsimpson> Yud_Zroc: none of those lines are errors
[21:30] <Daskreech> Yud_Zroc: open konsole and type vlc
[21:30] <Mamarok> Daskreech: I think he already did
[21:31] <Yud_Zroc> libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.2 from http://dvd.sf.net
[21:31] <Yud_Zroc> libdvdnav: DVD Title: RACING_STRIPES
[21:31] <Yud_Zroc> libdvdnav: DVD Serial Number: 32577C6C
[21:31] <Yud_Zroc> libdvdnav: DVD Title (Alternative): RACING_STRIPES
[21:31] <Yud_Zroc> libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/megan/.dvdnav/RACING_STRIPES.map'
[21:31] <Yud_Zroc> libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fe0000. Regions: 1
[21:31] <Yud_Zroc> those are errors
[21:31] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: pelase!
[21:31] <Daskreech> Sorry was the last thing I saw before the reboot
[21:31] <tsimpson> no, they are not
[21:31] <tsimpson> and DO NOT paste in the channel
[21:31] <Mamarok> we have seen the pastebin before!
[21:31] <jklhjklhjkh> DaSkreech: yes i dont mind formatting but if i can with out that is cool also
[21:31] <Daskreech> jklhjklhjkh: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[21:32] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: there is no error I can see
[21:32] <Yud_Zroc> that is a legit dvd why aint it playing it
[21:32] <Daskreech> !dvd
[21:32] <Mamarok> did it open a small window?
[21:33] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: what you did is just open the VLC player, yu still have to click on play
[21:33] <Yud_Zroc> i did
[21:33] <Mamarok> then you are missing codecs I guess
[21:33] <Mamarok> !codecs
[21:33] <Mamarok> oops :)
[21:34] <Yud_Zroc> im thinking i should get 9.04
[21:35] <tsimpson> you need the libdvdcss package, in konsole type "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[21:35] <Ciros> I like my 9.04, but I am paranoid to load the ati drivers, as seems to cause issues
[21:35] <tsimpson> that's my guess
[21:35] <Yud_Zroc> should i get 32 bit or 64 bit im using 64 atm..... cause i got 4 gig ram
[21:35] <Yud_Zroc> but i dont mind more stabnility using 3.2 gigs of that ram
[21:35] <Mamarok> Ciros: I can't use the fglrx one, the others are ok
[21:35] <Ciros> I run it on 64 bit
[21:36] <Ciros> really, I tried to use the ones from ati, and it failed just like the fglrx ones
[21:36] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: take 64bit, else you will not be able to use all your ram
[21:36] <Yud_Zroc> Ciros: how do u install flashplayer
[21:36] <Mamarok> Ciros: not for me
[21:36] <Ciros> weird mamarok
[21:36] <Daskreech> jklhjklhjkh: Then kick back for about 1.5 hours
[21:36] <Mamarok> Ciros: what is your card?
[21:37] <jklhjklhjkh> Daskreech:  ty
[21:37] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: there is a package for it, called flash-nonfree
[21:37] <Mamarok> Yud_Zroc: it will get you the installer from Adobe
[21:37] <Ciros> Yud_Zroc:  I used the installer program to do it...just searched for flash
[21:37] <Ciros> Mamarok:  it is an integraded hd3200
[21:37] <Mamarok> !flash
[21:37] <Mamarok> Ciros: mine is a HD 3650
[21:37] <Daskreech> jklhjklhjkh: Sure thing. Hope you enjoy
[21:37] <Mamarok> use the simple radeon driver
[21:38] <Ciros> hmmm   will find it, if my launcher wasnt acting so weird all of the sudden
[21:38] <Mamarok> Ciros: but of course there are not many desktop effects, I hd to switch to XRender for the trasnparence
[21:38] <d3jake> SOrry, my connection died. It looks like the python-apt package only applies to version 2.4 of Python. Is there a substitute for Python version 2.5?
[21:39] <Ciros> yeah I want to get transparance.   does the simple radeon driver allow the hdmi to work?
[21:40] <Mamarok> I have transparency, and the desktop grid, that's it
[21:40] <Mamarok> but it did work in Intrepid, so they should be able to bring that back
[21:41] <Ciros> hmmm
[21:41] <Mamarok> only the fglrx driver is a tricky stuff and proprietary, so we depend on AMD
[21:41] <Mamarok> the previous driver worked fine though
[21:42] <Ciros> I know tht is what is driving me crazy
[21:42] <Mamarok> well, take it easy, you have no other choice
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> just avoid ati
[21:45] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: I much prefer a collaborative firm like AMD over those arrogant chaps at NVIDIA who don't care if there is Linux out there
[21:45] <Mamarok> but AMD has no other choice if they want to survive anyway
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: well they clearly do as theyve been churning out decent drivers for as long as i can remember
[21:46] <Mamarok> not for me
[21:47] <Ciros> I wonder which driver I am using now.... >.>
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: never had an issue from my nvidia riva tnt2 ultra all the way up to my gefore 6150
[21:48] <d3jake> I am trying to run the upgrade tool from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades . I have it installed sucessfully installed. Everytime I try to run the tool (sudo do-release-upgrade) it complains that it cannot import the apt module. I added the hardy-upgrades repos in my repo list to see if I could upgrade python-apt, but when I request an upgrade it states that it will conflict with python2.3\2.4-apt and replace them. Should I chance
[21:48] <d3jake> ool to work of find another way round?
[21:49] <Ciros> ActionParsnip:  the ati drivers from when intrepid was released worked, and was decent, the newest release jacks up my system
[21:50] <Ciros> Mamarok:  are you refering to the ati binary X.org driver?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Ciros: log a bug is all i can sugggest
[21:51] <Ciros> meh I am just stay away from them currently.   whenI install it I cant get back into kde....lol   atleast with whatever I am using right now, it works
[21:59] <Mamarok> Ciros: the one that doesn't work for me is the proprietarx fglrx driver, the free radeon driver works fine, but without GL
[22:00] <Mamarok> and there already is a bug filed agaoinst that IIRC
[22:01] <Ciros> I figured there would be since I know I am not the first to install the drivers on an ati based card  lol
[22:03] <Ciros> random question, how do i get numlock to be turned on during boot up.... >.>   I totally forget how
[22:04] <Mamarok> hm, can't remember, but I guess you should find that on Google
[22:05] <PhilRod> Ciros: system settings -> keyboard, if you want it turned on at login
[22:05] <Ciros> guess so.   lol.    like said random
[22:05] <PhilRod> not sure what to do if you want it turned on during the honest-to-goodness boot process
[22:05] <Ciros> Thanks.   lol
[22:06] <Ciros> meh   it works for when kde starts up.    still need to figure how to change the sensitivity on my touch pad...it is too sensitive.  lol
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Ciros: change it in bios would be my bet
[22:09] <Ciros> ActionParsnip:  probably.   just one of those hopes I could change it in kde.   but havent seen it in options
[22:12] <Ciros> right gotta run bbl
[22:19] <d3jake> I am trying to run the upgrade tool from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades . I have it installed sucessfully installed. Everytime I try to run the tool (sudo do-release-upgrade) it complains that it cannot import the apt module. I added the hardy-upgrades repos in my repo list to see if I could upgrade python-apt, but when I request an upgrade it states that it will conflict with python2.3\2.4-apt and replace them. Should I chance
[22:19] <d3jake> ool to work of find another way round?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> d3jake: kdesudo update-manager-kde
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> -d
[22:26] <d3jake> okay
[22:27] <d3jake> ActionParsnip, is that -d supposed to go with the command?
[22:27] <d3jake> Is there a difference between sudo and kdesudo?
[22:28] <yml> hello, goodevening I am an happy new owner of an hp dv6 with 4 Gb of ram and I am wondering wich version of kubuntu I should install
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> d3jake: kdesudo is for gui apps like update manager and kate
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> d3jake: sudo is ONLY for cli apps like cp, ln, mv, apt-get
[22:28] <d3jake> ah, okay
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> d3jake: running gui apps with sudo done not setup the environment and will garbage file ownerships
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> *done == does
[22:30] <yml> 32 bits or 64 bits. I understand that if I want to take advantage of the 4 gb of ram I should better use the 64bits. however I am a bit woried by the softaware support
[22:30] <yml> like the flash plugins and other
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> yml: 64bit support is the same as 32bit, java can be a pain, the rest is absolutely flawless
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> yml: flash is fine
[22:30] <kanonmat_> yml, jaunty jackalope is soon out, i have flash on 64bit
[22:31] <yml> I am testing the RC
[22:31] <yml> I have installed an updated the 32 bits
[22:32] <yml> and everything is working except the suspend in memory and the the sound with the speaker
[22:32] <yml> and right now I am testing the live cd of the 64bits version
[22:32] <yml> and I am still hesitating between the two
[22:33] <yml> before going and doing a full installation
[22:33] <d3jake> ActionParsnip, okay (cool name BTW) I tried that command it said "bash: kdesudo: command not found", I tried with just sudo and it said "sudo: update-manager-kde: command not found"
[22:33] <d3jake> ActionParsnip, okay (cool name BTW) I tried that command it said "bash: kdesudo: command not found", I tried with just sudo and it said "sudo: update-manager-kde: command not found"
[22:34] <d3jake> sorry.. I was scrolled up and didn't see I had sent the message.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> d3jake: are you running kde?
[22:34] <d3jake> yes
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> d3jake: sudo apt-get install kdesudo update-manager-kde
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> d3jake: if kdesudo update-manager works, roll with it
[22:36] <yml> is there a way to update an installation done in 32 bits to 64 bits ? or should I reinstall from the live cd ?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> yml: you need to reinstall with a 64bit ISO
[22:36] <d3jake> ActionParsnip: The annoying part is that I've gotten the first upgrade tool to work correctly... and this time around it's giving me issues.
[22:37] <yml> ok thank you for your insight. I am going to give it a try
[22:39] <d3jake> ActionParsnip: When I try to run the command "sudo apt-get install kde update-manager-kde"  I am told the package kdesudo is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> d3jake: weird
[22:40] <d3jake> yes
[22:40] <d3jake> ...
[22:41] <boboso> Daskreech: done and so far the only thing i see is vmware doesnt want to work
[22:41] <Byron> I reinstalled Kubuntu on my Acer Aspire One and things are 'back to normal'.
[22:41] <Daskreech> boboso: Umm ok
[22:41] <Daskreech> Upgraded to Jackalope?
[22:41] <Byron> However, I can't seem to edit the K Menu height.
[22:42] <boboso> Daskreech: sry my nick changed im the one you helped upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04
[22:42] <Daskreech> boboso: ok :)
[22:42] <Daskreech> !vmware
[22:42] <Byron> Also, how do I get the GPG key from http://apt.wicd.net/wicd.gpg ?
[22:42] <Daskreech> boboso: Oh You might need new kernel modules for the new kernel
[22:43] <Byron> disregard the GPG, I just got it
[22:43] <Byron> How do I modify the K Menu height?
[22:45] <Daskreech> Byron: Drag it?
[22:46] <d3jake> Will there be a way to go back to KDE3 in jaunty, or will KDE4 be the only version of KDE that can be used?
[22:46] <Byron> Daskreech: I tried, nothing to drag
[22:48] <Daskreech> Byron: Which menu? Kickoff?
[22:49] <boboso2> does kde 4.2 have the ability to have different wallpapers on different desktops?
[22:49] <Daskreech> Kinda :)
[22:49] <Byron> Daskreech: yes
[22:49] <Daskreech> not really :(
[22:49] <Daskreech> but kinda :-)
[22:49] <boboso2> Daskreech: is that to me?
[22:50] <Daskreech> yes
[22:50] <boboso2> mmmm dam i thought i read that the feature would be in the 4.2
[22:51] <Daskreech> boboso2: Yeah it's kinda in 4.3 as well
[22:51] <boboso2> haha
[22:51] <boboso> well thats just great :(
[22:52] <boboso> well i guess i need to find out why vmware isnt working now
[22:52] <d3jake> Does\Will KDE4 allow the user to change how many programs will stack on the taskbar? In KDE3 the default is to have programs stacked two high, and KDE4 seems to default to only having them one high, which in my opinion is a waste of space.
[22:53] <ubuntusux> anyone know how to get xkoules to work in ubuntu ?
[22:54] <Daskreech> d3jake: Yes you can do that in KDE 4.2
[22:54] <Daskreech> boboso: I'm guessing your Vmware kernel module is broken
[22:55] <drbobb> hello, does jaunty's kopete work for you guys?
[22:55] <d3jake> Daskreech: I wouldn't mind using KDE4 if I could find that setting, could you direct me to a web page somewhere that describes where that setting is?
[22:55] <drbobb> (and gals, if any ;-)
[22:56] <Daskreech> d3jake: what version of KDE 4 are you using?
[22:56] <Daskreech> drbobb: What about us robots and complex bash scripts?
[22:56] <Daskreech> we have e-feelings too :(
[22:57] <drbobb> uh, i'm not sure whether scripts use kopete, or have a need for it
[22:57] <kanonmat_> kdesu is the old kdesudo?
[22:57] <d3jake> Daskreech: I'm not. This laptop's optical drive is getting close to dying, so I am using KDE3 from an older install disc on a Kubuntu 6.06LTS install. I'm trying to get it upgraded but it won't play nice...
[22:57] <Daskreech> kanonmat_: yes
[22:58] <Daskreech> d3jake: upgrading to what?
[22:58] <Befolked> what up.
[22:58] <kanonmat_> su != sudo, but ok, i think i get it
[22:58] <d3jake> Daskreech: Kubuntu 8.08
[22:58] <d3jake> I've done it once already.
[22:58] <Befolked> wut?
[22:58] <Daskreech> kanonmat_: It wasn't really su before hence the rename
[22:58] <kanonmat_> yes
[22:58] <Befolked> kubuntu 8.08.. *scratches head*
[22:58] <devilsadvocate> d3jake, have you rebooted after the upgrade?
[22:58] <d3jake> uhhh
[22:58] <Daskreech> d3jake: you mean 8.04 ?
[22:58] <d3jake> that's it
[22:58] <d3jake> sorry
[22:59] <Befolked> :D
[22:59] <Daskreech> d3jake: that's KDE3 as well
[22:59] <d3jake> that's right
[22:59] <Befolked> im running 9.04
[22:59] <Befolked> cant be bothered with 8.10 anymore.
[23:00] <Befolked> !offtopic
[23:00] <Befolked> (i forgot the channel name)
[23:00] <d3jake> Daskreech, I hadn't liked KDE4, relating to my question above. And I have correctly run the update to 8.04, but I accidentily broke it, so I decided to reinstall because it was easy to get it upgraded....at least when it worked....
[23:00] <d3jake> This time around I've had many more issues than last time
[23:01] <drbobb> are there any mirrors of apt.pearsoncomputing.net? the home of the kde3.5 jaunty remix?
[23:01] <Daskreech> ah ok well if you install Jackalope then you can get two rows
[23:01] <d3jake> devilsadvocate: Which upgrade are you yalking about?
[23:01] <Daskreech> drbobb: no why?
[23:01] <d3jake> Daskreech: Good.... If I recall correctly, has it been released yet?
[23:01] <devilsadvocate> d3jake, 6.06 to something much greater than 6.06
[23:01] <Daskreech> devilsadvocate: You can do LTS -> LTS
[23:01] <drbobb> cause it's unavailable - bandwidth limit exceeded
[23:02] <Daskreech> d3jake: Close enough :)
[23:02] <Befolked> Daskreech, you can also do LTS -> 9.04
[23:02] <Daskreech> Befolked: Not directly
[23:02] <devilsadvocate> Daskreech, 8.10 was lts right? (kubuntu)
[23:02] <Daskreech> No
[23:02] <Befolked> Daskreech, what do you mean?
[23:02] <Befolked> i thought i saw a script to upgrade from Jonathon Riddel
[23:02] <Befolked> *Riddell, or whatever.
[23:02] <drbobb> I really really need a *working* IM client
[23:02] <d3jake> devilsadvocate: I haven't done the upgrade yet, that's my problem.
[23:02] <Daskreech> drbobb: ok I'll let him know
[23:03] <Daskreech> Befolked: link me to it
[23:03] <drbobb> Daskreech: thanks
[23:03] <Befolked> yeah, sec im trying to find it.
[23:03] <Befolked> its a script you run
[23:03] <Befolked> it might just upgrade to 8.10, then to 9.04
[23:04] <Daskreech> drbobb: Kopete works fine here what problem are you having?
[23:04] <drbobb> the GaduGadu support is broken
[23:04] <drbobb> gtalk doesn't work too well either
[23:04] <Daskreech> drbobb: Ah no idea about that step into #kopete and ask what the status of that was for KDE 4.2 though near as I recall it was working
[23:05] <drbobb> I'm not sure it works at all, I don't see any contacts
[23:05] <boboso> Daskreech: do you have any ideas on how to check the vmware kernel module is broken?
[23:05] <Befolked> Daskreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[23:05] <drbobb> Daskreech: I've been there but nobody ever replied
[23:05] <Daskreech> boboso: See what kernels the version you have installed supports
[23:05] <Befolked> seems interesting. i wonder if it'll work (H)
[23:06] <Daskreech> Befolked: nice
[23:06] <Befolked> yeah, i was surprised too.
[23:06] <Befolked> jonathon riddell is the sole kubuntu developer paid by canonical,r ight?
[23:07] <Daskreech> For some version of that statement yes
[23:07] <Daskreech> I think there are other paid developers but none that work directly on Kubuntu
[23:07] <Befolked> thats what i heard.
[23:07] <Befolked> yes, yes.
[23:07] <Befolked> most work on launchpad i've heard.
[23:07] <Daskreech> No as in some work on KDE stuff
[23:07] <Daskreech> but not really considered part of the Kubuntu team
[23:08] <Befolked> most work on launchpad, some work on ubuntu, and one works on kubuntu. how nice.
[23:08] <Daskreech> well Edubuntu is really getting the shaft if you want to compare
[23:08] <Befolked> but who uses edubuntu :)
[23:09] <Daskreech> Who should use it?
[23:20] <Adola> Hi!  How do I turn off idle time?
[23:21] <Adola> I'm watching videos, and my computer goes into some mode.  Normally, I can just log back in, but, because the video is maximized, I can't do anything, I have to kill the session.
[23:22] <boboso> Daskreech: i just uninstalled and then reinstalled vmware and now it works ty for your time
[23:22] <dwidmann> Adola: some video players are smart enough to turn off the screensavers (or trick the screensavers into thinking its not idle)
[23:22] <Adola> dwidmann: VLC.
[23:23] <xorred> hey guys, I'm on Kubuntu latest (testing) version, can't run jar files
[23:23] <xorred> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initializeclass sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment
[23:23] <xorred> that is what I get all the time...
[23:23] <xorred> java -jar file.jar
[23:23] <dwidmann> !java | xorred
[23:24] <Adola> So, how do I turn off screensavers?
[23:24] <|PaperTiger|> !radeonhd
[23:24] <xorred> thanks
[23:24] <xorred> and another question - firefox does not exit correctly
[23:24] <xorred> whenever I kill it - it just stays in the processes
[23:24] <xorred> thus not allowing me to start again until I kill -9 it
[23:25] <xorred> and the java url is broken...
[23:25] <dwidmann> Adola: you could try system settings - > appearance -> desktop -> screensaver
[23:25] <xorred>  The requested operation could not be completedUnknown Host
[23:25] <Adola> dwidmann: I just checked.  They were all turned off.  What's doing this then?
[23:25] <sevenhill> i think i have found the reasons of "Xfreezing on 9.04 but mouse still active"  problem
[23:26] <Adola> dwidmann: And furthermore, VLC has the option "Disable screensaver" applied.
[23:26] <dwidmann> Adola: does it kick you back to the login screen or just lock the session?
[23:26] <Adola> dwidmann: Kick me back to the login!
[23:27] <dwidmann> Adola: maybe X is crashing ...
[23:28] <Adola> dwidmann: No, I don't think so, it only does that if I'm not touching the computer for a bit.  Never timed it though.
[23:29] <devilsadvocate> Adola, somewhere in powerdevil?
[23:29] <dwidmann> Adola: what about system settings -> advanced -> system -> power management?
[23:31] <xorred> the java page in "documentation" does not help me
[23:31] <xorred> as I'm on kubuntu 9.04
[23:31] <Adola> Ah, I believe that's it!  I just unchecked "Let powerdevil manage screen"
[23:31] <Adola> And "Lock screen on resume"
[23:31] <dwidmann> Adola: hopefully that'll do the trick, if not I'm sure you'll soon find out eh/
[23:31] <xorred> !java
[23:32] <xorred> that does not work for me
[23:32] <xorred> at all
[23:32] <rmrfslash> java... yuck
[23:32] <xorred> yes but I need it... and it should work with 9.04 right?
[23:32] <rmrfslash> works for me
[23:32] <xorred> how did you set it up?
[23:32] <dwidmann> xorred: so, installing "sun-java6-jre" then "sudo update-java-alternatives" doesn't help?
[23:33] <drbobb> xorred: i just installed sun-java6-jre on 9.04 yesterday
[23:33] <xorred> no doesn't
[23:33] <drbobb> and i can confirm that it works
[23:33] <dwidmann> xorred: you *DID* update-java-alternatives too, right?
[23:33] <xorred> yes
[23:33] <rmrfslash> java --version?
[23:33] <dwidmann> xorred: and what does "which java" say?
[23:33] <xorred> sudo update-java-alternatives -l
[23:33] <xorred> java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[23:34] <rmrfslash> oops
[23:34] <xorred> java -version
[23:34] <xorred> java version "1.6.0_13"
[23:34] <xorred> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03)
[23:34] <xorred> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 11.3-b02, mixed mode)
[23:34] <rmrfslash> java -version
[23:34] <rmrfslash> so what's the problem?
[23:34] <dwidmann> hah..... that *looks* right ...
[23:34] <xorred> no it does not start up .jar files
[23:34] <rmrfslash> java -jar?
[23:34] <xorred> any jar files kill me with error message
[23:34] <xorred> yes
[23:34] <rmrfslash> what's the error?
[23:35] <xorred> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initializeclass sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment
[23:35] <rmrfslash> hmm... was the jar made w/ compat mode on?
[23:35] <rmrfslash> well... that doesn't make sense
[23:35] <rmrfslash> forget i said that
[23:36] <rmrfslash> are you executing this on a server?
[23:37] <rmrfslash> or on a regular desktop machine?
[23:37] <xorred> on a desktop
[23:37] <xorred> you know, I just fixed it... I won't tell how as you'll laugh your a***es on me :D
[23:38] <dwidmann>  xorred: that's no fair! I haven't had a good laugh all day!
[23:38] <rmrfslash> how
[23:38] <xorred> hahah
[23:38] <d3jake> Is it a problem if I'm trying to do a full update with adept-notifier, but when I click on it, the list of changes inclued a ton of important things (totaling a removal of ~700MB of packages) but only proposes to download ~70MB....
[23:38] <xorred> well... I was starting it up as #
[23:39] <xorred> next, I just exited, and started up as regular user.... that's it
[23:39] <rmrfslash> weird
[23:39] <dwidmann> not really ... running things as a different user usually won't work if they're graphical ...
[23:39] <rmrfslash> good ol java the hut
[23:39] <xorred> java ftw
[23:39] <xorred> !
[23:40]  * dwidmann likes java
[23:40] <rmrfslash> I guess ur right dwidmann
[23:40] <rmrfslash> just tried execing a xterm
[23:40] <rmrfslash> as root
[23:40] <rmrfslash> got some fancy error
[23:40] <dwidmann> d3jake: sounds like trouble
[23:41] <d3jake> yes
[23:41] <d3jake> This is how I've corrupted my installs before. I'll end up uninstalling almost everything before realizing what was happening.
[23:42] <xorred> yeah.. I've uninstalled hundreds of packages to fix java
[23:42] <xorred> and it turned out ... user issue
[23:42] <dwidmann>  d3jake: try doing a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:42] <xorred> the device behind the KB
[23:43] <xorred> apt-get? aptitude!!!
[23:43] <xorred> why do you guys still use apt-get
[23:43] <xorred> it's from the stone age
[23:43] <dwidmann> bah, apt-get!
[23:43] <rmrfslash> what else should people use?
[23:43] <xorred> aptitude!
[23:43] <denis_> xorred:  but it works fine
[23:43] <rmrfslash> dpkg?
[23:43] <xorred> aptitude beats it
[23:43] <dwidmann> rmrfslash: masochist
[23:43] <rmrfslash> :D
[23:44] <xorred> make and get over all package managers
[23:44] <denis_> xorred:  no, for me aptitude is not useable, it has an uglyx design
[23:44] <xorred> ugly design?
[23:44] <xorred> I can't compare the output of an apti-get search and aptitude search
[23:44] <xorred> apt-get is ugly
[23:44] <rmrfslash> xorred: yep... ./configure and make are all u need
[23:44] <d3jake> uhh... do both apt-get and aptitude let me download packages?
[23:44] <denis_> the overview is bad
[23:45] <xorred> aptitude is better, d3jake
[23:45] <denis_> that's what I meant
[23:45] <xorred> try it
[23:45]  * xorred feels like a drug dealer
[23:45] <rmrfslash> d3jake: apt-get
[23:45] <rmrfslash> :P
[23:46] <denis_> and as we now have kpackagekit aptitude is gone
[23:46] <d3jake> And now we're back to square one...
[23:46] <denis_> and I am gone, too ;-)
[23:46] <xorred> try my sh*t man, you'll love it, it's just gotten here from Columbia
[23:46] <denis_> good night
[23:46] <Ciros> ugh adobe air giving me headache
[23:46] <devilsadvocate> d3jake, 8.10 did not have kde3
[23:47] <devilsadvocate> d3jake, perhaps that is the source of the trouble?
[23:47] <d3jake> devilsadvocate, apt-get vs. aptitude or..?
[23:47] <p-f> Is there a way to paste without using the middle mouse button? I don't like always having to reach for my mouse just to paste something.
[23:47] <devilsadvocate> d3jake, your 700 mb vs 70 mb
[23:47] <devilsadvocate> and aptitude ++ :P
[23:48] <rmrfslash> :O
[23:48] <devilsadvocate> p-f, shift+insert
[23:48] <Daskreech> d3jake: What is getting removed?
[23:48] <p-f> Or, alternatively, is there a way to collapse all the separate paste buffers on linux? It seems as though java has its own, KDE and X
[23:48] <p-f> devilsadvocate: won't work
[23:48] <p-f> devilsadvocate: that's only for the non-X buffer
[23:48] <p-f> devilsadvocate: I want a shortcut for the buffer that receives selected text
[23:48] <d3jake> http://paste.ubuntu.com/153101/ <= that is the result of dist-upgrade
[23:48] <rmrfslash> is there a third mouse button emulation for laptops?
[23:48] <d3jake> Daskreech, many many things.... adept, kopete, lemme get the list >.>
[23:49] <Daskreech> Yah
[23:50] <devilsadvocate> p-f, either shift+insert or ctrl+v should work, i dont know of any other shortcuts
[23:50] <devilsadvocate> rmrfslash, clicking both buttons together seems to be the accepted standard
[23:51] <rmrfslash> :D
[23:51] <rmrfslash> thanks
[23:52] <d3jake> okay.... now adept-updater says it needs to download 604MB, and will install 717MB worth....
[23:52] <d3jake> interesting...
[23:53] <p-f> devilsadvocate: just select text in a terminal, then middle click. Try getting that text with any of your shortcuts, you'll see what I'm talking about
[23:54] <Ciros> oh I hate you adobe air....
[23:54] <d3jake> *flips coin* should I try to install now........?
[23:54] <d3jake> err upgrade*
[23:54] <Daskreech> d3jake: does it have a listing of what will be changed?
[23:54] <devilsadvocate> p-f, i see. i generally use ctrl+shift+c on konsole
[23:55] <devilsadvocate> or right click > copy
[23:55] <devilsadvocate> :P
[23:55] <devilsadvocate> d3jake, make backups first
[23:55] <Ciros> d3jake:  back up, and update if you want...
[23:55] <d3jake> Daskreech, in adept-notifier, yes, many packages will be installed, upgraded, and considerably fewer removed
[23:55] <d3jake> backup! what an idea :p
[23:56] <Daskreech> Which will be removed?
[23:56] <d3jake> Thanks for reminding me though
[23:56] <Ciros> ...why is that update blocked....weird
[23:57] <theuser1> how to play, at every system boot.(when kde or x starts)  two 1.mp3 and then 2.mp3 . then again 1.mp3 (repeating for ever. one after an other. for ever) ?
[23:57] <Dark-Star> How can I configure (after installation) whether the hardware clock runs on utc or local time?
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- might be able to script something with aplay
[23:58] <devilsadvocate> theuser1, is that wise? :P
[23:59] <theuser1> ya