[08:56] guud morning === c0p3rn1c_ is now known as c0p3rn1c [12:50] asac, is it too late to fix ia32-libs? [12:50] fta2: depends on what the fix involves i guess [13:06] strange, i'm sure i fixed the bug but i can't find my changes [13:06] fta2: normal fixes can also be done as SRU ... slangasek didnt like the idea to add new libs in a SRU though when i asked a few weeks ago [13:06] ok lunch [13:07] it's not about new libs [13:13] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/152759/ [13:13] asac, i also wanted to fresh the debs to match the RC, as since the last refresh (b1), a lot of things changed, but i'm not sure it's wanted. [13:27] s/fresh/refresh/ [13:53] fta2: i would think its wanted. talk to motu-release guys or even slangasek whats the policy for that [14:19] grr. i don't have much time left [14:22] fta2: how can i help you? [14:27] by pinging those guys for me, once i'm sure i can a/ submit this fix and b/ optionally resync the debs, i will push what that [14:27] -what [14:30] fta2: -desktop ... need a bit input though ;) [14:42] asac, context? [14:49] asac, ? ^^ [14:50] @time [14:51] bug 1212221 [14:51] Error: Launchpad bug 1212221 could not be found [14:51] hm [14:52] fta yes you are alive and kicking [14:55] i don't understand the " fta2: -desktop ... need a bit input though ;)" [15:03] fta2: look a bit up there [15:03] * asac on call [15:03] fta2: pitti said what to do [15:03] 15:28 < asac> pitti: fta asks whats the policy for bringing ia32libs in sync with RC status. [15:03] 15:28 < pitti> asac: no policy, but sounds like a good idea, if it can be tested with flash and some other usages [15:03] 15:28 < asac> is that a SRU thing or are we doing this a few days before release usually [15:04] 15:29 < asac> fta: can you upload the new package to some PPA so we can test it? [15:04] 15:29 < pitti> ideally we should do it ASAP [15:04] 15:29 < pitti> and since it's universe, it's not bound to CD freezes [15:04] 15:30 < asac> fta: is there a bug we can use to track this roll out? [15:04] 15:30 < asac> otherwise i can open one for you [15:04] 15:33 * asac on call [15:16] asac, ok, please open a bug, i'll resync the debs in the meantime [15:20] fta2: 362939 [15:23] bug 362939 [15:23] Launchpad bug 362939 in ia32-libs "sync ia32libs with libs shipped in jaunty RC" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362939 [15:23] thanks [15:25] isdnutils is still broken [15:33] ugh, it would be really nice if gvfs'd bookmarks would at least show up as links to the relevant ~/.gvfs/ path :( [15:34] is that a gtk deficiency or a firefox-gnome-support deficiency? [15:34] * cwillu pokes BUGabundo with a stick [15:35] what's up cwillu ? [15:35] just griping about how the gtk filepicker falls back to not showing gvfs mounts at all, rather than showing them as links to the appropriate ~/.gvfs/ path [15:35] cwillu: trying to make sense of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/152832/ [15:36] BUGabundo, db change is changing the actual waveform (i.e., what you expected), gain change is rarely used [15:37] I just want them ALL to the MAX with no clipping [15:37] I can do that on the GUI [15:37] but can see the option in CLI [15:37] BUGabundo, however, that won't affect the audio compression of the track (not talking about compression as in mp3/ogg, but compression as the audio effect), which is what most people are complaining about when their classical music plays way quieter than their red-hot-chilly-peppers [15:37] BUGabundo, soundkompressor is a frontend to mp3gain though [15:38] or soundkonverter, rather [15:38] audio levelling is one of those things that's really alot more complicated than it seems it should be [15:39] ideally, you'd want to maximize the waveform, and then _lower_ the waveform based on the perceived volume of the _quietest_ track you have, as that way you don't lose the audio quality of the better tracks (which as a rule are the quieter ones: they have far more dynamic range) [15:39] I've been using mp3gain-gui for years [15:39] all my mp3 are touched by it [15:39] ah, missed that one :P [15:40] but recently over wine, I've found it does only half files, or like slots [15:40] not that any of this has anything to do with mozilla :p [15:40] part is at one volume part at another :( [15:40] cwillu: I do that manually [15:40] quit distracting me from my gvfs gripes :p [15:40] put all to the max, see the lower, then set it for about 80% of them [15:41] is this mozilla? I thouth this was quiet-offtopic [15:41] eehe [15:46] asac, you didn't bump nss, right? [15:46] to .3? [15:46] seems not :/ [15:47] thats required for latest 1.9.2/1 right? [15:47] seems its a SRU thing then [15:48] i will open a bug a bit later so i wont forget it [15:51] yep [15:57] fta2: do you know whether that was delivererd to 1.9 branch upstream yet? [16:01] i don't know [16:16] k [16:16] asac, pushing ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu5~fta1 to my own ppa [16:17] i will check that. we shouldnt roll that to stable updates before upstream rolls that to stable branch of course [16:17] fta2: great. can you tell that in the bug? is the changelog ready for upload to real archive (e.g. does it have all the bugs etc.)? [16:19] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/152852/ [16:20] fta2: you dont refer to which files you touch for the changes? [16:20] bg 360870 [16:20] bug 360870 [16:20] Launchpad bug 360870 in ia32-libs "libstdc++.so link in amd64 ia32-libs is wrong" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/360870 [16:20] fta2: what is up with libfusion? is that removed from the archive? [16:21] otherwise we probably want a bug too [16:23] fta2: so that was removed from archive? [16:23] hi newz2000 [16:23] hi asac [16:23] newz2000: did you find the bug i had on the startpage btw? [16:23] e.g. search button out-of-box ;) [16:23] yes, ready to roll out a fix for that [16:23] grewat. want me to test first? [16:24] nah, if it's not fixed we'll do another push before thursday [16:24] kk [16:24] anything else i can do for you newz2000 ? [16:25] I mentioned last week that since upgrading to Jaunty I'm getting browser freezes periodically (5-10x per hour) [16:25] I've been disabling extensions systematically to try and isolate the prolbem and had no luck [16:25] newz2000: so even with all extensions disabled you see that issue? [16:25] I can't use the browser regularly with all extensions disabled so I can't test that way [16:26] newz2000: you can run a different profile side by side if thats better [16:26] was talking to someone who suggested it may be a bug with intel video drivers [16:27] could be. could also be IO issue [16:27] newz2000: i think there are a few bugs with intel atm; maybe check with bryce which workarounds currently need testing ... maybe there is one that helps for you [16:27] yeah, he gave me some steps [16:27] my prob is that I'm insanely busy until next friday [16:28] my tolerence for risk is low. [16:28] newz2000: yeah. i think its really unlikely that we can fix this on any side till release. [16:28] I was wondering if there's some tell-tale sign or test process I could do that would show if it is an X problem or a firefox problem? [16:28] so we need a SRU in case we figure [16:30] when my browser freezes htop shows firefox as using 100% cpu. That's why I've thought it was a ff problem. [16:30] Bug 300765 [16:30] Launchpad bug 300765 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox freezes system on page load in Jaunty" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300765 [16:31] newz2000: was your issue flash related? [16:31] i guess you cannot disable that to check? [16:31] no, disabling flash made no impact [16:31] ok good [16:31] newz2000: when you see this happening is that only CPU or is there also IO going on? [16:31] asac: how do I monitor IO? [16:33] my most recent change has been to disable gears. Since doing that almost exactly one hour I've only frozen 3 times. [16:34] which makes the i/o question more interesting because gmail offline seems to be more io intensive than typical browsing [16:34] newz2000: iostat (in sysstat package) [16:35] iostat 1 [16:35] if you want a new stat every second [16:36] asac, yes, libfusion is gone. [16:36] asac, for the files touched, i followed the style [16:36] fta2: ok. maybe say: "drop libfusion which got removed from archive" istead of obsolete (which could just mean that its a old lib still available [16:36] fta2: we can also explain libfusion in bug report if you dont want to touch changelog [16:37] hm [16:38] asac: ok, I'm running `watch iostat` in a terminal so when it freezes again I can check. I've not really used this before, what should I look for? [16:38] newz2000: the avg-cpu thing has system + iowait [16:38] asac, once again, i just duplicated the style for obsolete packages [16:38] and otherwise you should see a peak on some harddisk [16:38] if its really io related [16:39] fta2: k [16:39] ok, thanks asac. I'll keep my eye on it. [16:39] good [16:40] fta2: could you ask on the libstdc bug to test the PPA package? [16:40] i can ask on the RC package and will do some testing on my own (e.g. flash/java/skype/ffox32) [16:40] s/RC package/RC bug/ [16:47] the libstdc bug has a testfile [16:50] fta2: kenvandine will request a post-upload merge for gwibber. seems motu-release picked his branch up with twitter and indicate fix [16:50] fta2: its 0.8 fork [16:50] so we probably need a .jaunty branch [16:50] which is .8 [16:50] or is there such a branch already? [16:51] no [16:51] fta2: can you push one for revision 50? [16:51] the work is done on top of 50 [16:52] i have to run, i'll be back ~8pm; but not for long; then byebye [16:52] fta2: so what shall we do? [16:52] fta2: we can also push the stable branches to ~ubuntu-dev [16:52] fta2: would that make sense? [16:52] gwibber? [16:52] s/we/i/ [16:52] yes [16:53] or gwibber team, jorge can add any volunteer in there [16:53] fta2: ok. good. [16:53] fta2: i will do whatever seems appropriate. guess its better to have it in gwibber-team [16:53] because thats the team Vcs-Bzr points to [16:53] yes [16:54] ok, cu in ~2h [16:54] please test ia32 is you can [16:54] fta2: yeah i will [16:54] fta2: is it built? [16:55] donno (sorry, i'm turning crazy with tons of last minute things here) [16:56] fta: i know what you mean. its always last minute ... last minute ;) [16:56] jcastro: ping peng pong. wanna add me to gwibber team or wanna add ubuntu-dev? [16:58] jcastro: thanks for instant action. we are kind of blocked ;) [16:58] @time texas [16:58] @time dallas [16:58] @time [16:58] @now [16:58] hmm [16:58] which bot was it that worked here? [16:58] have to ask gnomefreak i guess [17:06] doesn't look like it's i/o related. %system and %iowait stayed constant during and after the freeze. :-( [17:06] newz2000: so just cpu was pumped up ... and all firefox? [17:07] correct, firefox pegs one core at 100%. X and landscape each make respectable showings but more like 4-5% each. [17:10] for the record, I have a low-powered computer. Intel Core Duo ULV, 2 cores at 1.2GHz. 1.8" low powered low RPM drive. [17:42] asac: sorry I was at lunch [17:42] on it [18:12] asac: ping [18:12] do you have any recent reports of font config probs? [18:13] users are seeing stuff like http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/54ue312l/vlcscreenshot.png [18:35] BUGabundo: please dont post urls to me that make pop ups and ads with music ;) [18:36] anywy. havent received any problems with vlc ... but didnt really look for vlc issues to be honest [18:36] jcastro: all good. did you add me? [18:37] jcastro: thanks! [18:37] ok [18:37] out for a while getting food and so on [18:41] BUGabundo: i will check vlc bug reports aftger dinner [18:44] asac: you're all set [18:51] asac: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/363012 [18:51] Ubuntu bug 363012 in fontconfig "Broken font in qt programs" [Undecided,New] [18:51] adds ? music? didn't see anything like that [18:51] the wonders of noscript and addblock [18:51] sorry about that... didn't even noticed [18:51] time to go [19:04] back [19:17] asac, ia32 ? [19:38] fta: now checking [19:39] fta: have you noticed that we can now create multiple PPAs per team/user? [19:40] yes [19:40] good [19:40] need to reboot, my mouse is dead [19:40] usb [19:42] odd. the test.cc compiles without installing your package [19:42] that's what i expected too, because i build the whole chromium without problem [19:42] heh i compiled on a remote session ;) [19:43] let me check on amd64 ;) [19:43] lol [19:44] works as well [19:46] brb [19:50] fta: so isnt this a problem of lib32stdc++ rather? [19:50] (if its a problem at all) [19:50] howdy [19:51] well, my link was bad, that's for sure, but no idea on the impact [19:51] hi hjmf [19:51] do we have debug symbols for sun-java6-*_ [19:51] fta: so did you introduce that link that was bad? or was it always bad? [19:52] hjmf: unlikely. we dont have sources for that [19:52] ok [19:52] unlikely == no ;) [19:52] bug 195698 [19:52] Launchpad bug 195698 in firefox "Password asked separately for each tab that requires it " [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195698 [19:53] damn I have a faulty keymap [19:53] hehe [19:53] fta: what i currently try to understand is when those links were introduced [19:53] i guess its not an invention of you [19:54] so there might be a very good reason why libstc++5 has the .so link [19:54] and not ++6 [19:54] i changed the way those links are created http://paste.ubuntu.com/152971/ [19:54] apparently, there was no link at all [19:55] fta: hmm. i dont see any libstdc++ in the stuff you removed [19:55] ah ok [19:55] but there were so many missing links that it's hard to tell [19:56] missing and broken [19:56] yeah [19:59] :-) correct keymap is back XD [20:02] fta: ls -l /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/32/libstdc++.so [20:02] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2009-03-17 11:01 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/32/libstdc++.so -> ../../../../../lib32/libstdc++.so.6 [20:02] i think we shouldnt ship any libstdc++ link [20:03] hm, ok. no link or the same link, fine with me [20:04] dtchen: do you have that file too? [20:04] /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/32/libstdc++.so [20:04] ? [20:05] if so, lets drop it completely from ia32-libs. i have the feeling it could cause other weird issues [20:05] i don't [20:05] fta: you dont? [20:05] fta@cube:~ $ ls -l /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/32/libstdc++.so [20:05] ls: cannot access /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/32/libstdc++.so: No such file or directory [20:05] fta: are you on amd64? [20:05] yes [20:05] cube is [20:05] hell whats going on ;) [20:06] no /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/32/ [20:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/152982/ [20:08] fta: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/32/libstdc++.so -> ../../../../../lib32/libstdc++.so.6 [20:08] err [20:08] g++-4.3-multilib: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3/32/libstdc++.so [20:09] fta: do you have that installed? thats a requirement if you want to build 32 bit on 64 afaik [20:10] hmm.. nope [20:11] fta: yeah. so please drop the link from ia32-libs. i will verify the other bug now. [20:11] hm, i build chromium with g++-multilib [amd64] [20:11] but not on that box [20:12] fta: right. thats why we should exclude libstdc++ from the link creation [20:12] its probably the more reliable way anyway as its a gcc thing (in a directory for -m32) [20:13] heh. dumb me. i also downloaded the lib to the remote ssh machine ;) [20:16] fta: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libmurrine.so: [20:16] i thought only "modules" were affected [20:16] not engines [20:17] (npviewer.bin:8846): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libmurrine.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 [20:17] Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gail": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgail.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 [20:17] ? [20:17] or is murrine just not included? (could be) [20:18] pfft [20:18] whats going on [20:19] trying to download ffox from mozilla -> 1.2K [20:22] :P [20:22] 20K [20:22] i am going crazy [21:01] fta: you can direclty upload to archive AND ppa after dropping those links (after doing some testing locally of course) ... so once motu-release signs off archive admins let it in. [21:02] if they refuse i will see if i can fix whatever they complain about [21:31] fta: bug 362939 has an ack [21:31] Launchpad bug 362939 in ia32-libs "sync ia32libs with libs shipped in jaunty RC" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362939 [21:31] hi to all, I have recently installed firefox 3.5 in ubuntu intrepid today's build, and I have noticed that fonts don't use antialiasing, does anyone know what happened? [21:31] mitchell1: yes. firefox-3.5 uses more of fontconfig than 3.0 [21:32] problem is that the fontconfig defaults are a bit messed up in intrepid (which we fixed in jaunty) [21:32] mitchell1: please paste.ubuntu.com the output of ls -l /etc/fonts/conf.d/ [21:32] ok [21:35] asac: here is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/153029/ [21:36] mitchell1: remove /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-no-sub-pixel.conf and restart ffox [21:39] mitchell1: also all those files without a number prefix are not really supposed to be in there ... so they might lead to confusing result [21:39] consider to back them up and remove them as well [21:39] alias.conf [21:39] local.conf [21:39] etc. [21:40] i wanted to push ia32 but something looks weird [21:40] fta: what? [21:40] asac: I didn't noticed any change [21:41] mitchell1: do you have ~/.fonts.conf or something? [21:41] no [21:41] mitchell1: does it get better if you prevent websites using their own fonts? [21:41] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/153035/ @line 7, i used $$log ... [21:41] lets see [21:41] mitchell1: e.g. in preferences -> content -> advanced fonts [21:42] yea [21:43] but, fonts are now all serif [21:43] but it improves [21:43] fta: whats the effect of it? since its != its just matches all now [21:43] iirc, i meant $$lib [21:44] fta: yeah. but i think it doesnt have a bad effect [21:44] log vs lib.. hmm [21:44] it just means that all files will go into that if branch [21:44] mitchell1: so can you check what font the websites that are bad are trying to use? [21:44] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24168087/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu4_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz shows no error [21:46] it's supposed to prevent the symlink to be created if it's already there [21:46] fta: looks like its luck [21:46] and it works [21:46] i added that for a reason [21:46] hm, i should probably fix the typo [21:46] fta: you already check whether the SO exists [21:46] so if it exists it doesnt do anything [21:46] most likely the if with the $$log is superfluous [21:46] (though performance wise good) [21:47] fta: yeah fix the typo and check that the .so links are properly created still [21:47] mitchell1: fc-match Arial ... fc-match Helvetica ... fc-match Times [21:47] what does that yield? [21:47] (three commands ;)) [21:48] fta: did you remove the libstdc++ links already? [21:49] yes, locally, i was just checking the rest of the code [21:49] thanks [21:50] asac: here is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/153042/ [21:52] mitchell1: i would think you get better results if you dont install Arial [21:52] .ttf [21:52] mitchell1: try to install ttf-liberation too [21:52] thats beter better than those pfb things [21:52] ok, i remember now, some packages just ship a .so, no .so.x.y, hence the test [21:53] ok but firefox 3.0 is showing fonts well, or it isn;t related? [21:53] mitchell1: firefox had some bugs which covered these issues [21:53] ok [21:54] mitchell1: in the end i still think its a fontconfig configuration issue [21:55] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/153043/ [21:56] fta: ok. thought we would filter out libstdc++ in the first find [21:56] but its probably ok too [21:56] (if you have verified that its not there anymore ;)) [21:57] fta: so please check that all .so links are still there and that libstdc++ .so link isnt there anymore. if thats the case upload [21:58] mitchell1: did you remove all the fontconfig files that dont have a number already? [22:02] asac: i have removed arial.ttf [22:02] and all the arial fonts isnatlled and it improved a lot [22:02] now a im gonna revome those files without number [22:04] asac: where are those files? [22:04] lol, I dont know where are they located [22:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/153029/ [22:05] ups sorry [22:06] i already realized [22:10] mitchell1: /etc/fonts/conf.d [22:10] mitchell1: i guess you got arial through mstcorefonts package or something [22:11] if you see other issues consider to remove other MS fonts [22:11] ok [22:11] mitchell1: also install ttf-liberation package if you havent done so yet (maybe its installed by default even ... not sure) [22:12] i already installed it [22:12] good [22:12] then after removing those files in conf.d you should be set [22:12] (back them up if you care ;)) [22:12] mitchell1: how old is the install? e.g. did you install hardy first? or gutsy? [22:13] intrepid fresh install [22:13] intersting [22:13] from livecd [22:14] desktop cd [22:14] ok [22:14] not sure where those files come from [22:14] but they dont look right [22:14] maybe they got installed when you tried to install other font packages= [22:14] ? [22:14] i removed my last instalation that where from the alternate kubuntu intrpid and i didn't have that problem [22:14] mitchell1: did you install font packages after installing from livecd? [22:15] well yes [22:15] mitchell1: do you remember which packages? [22:15] I installed mac4lin [22:15] fonts [22:15] maybe they behave rouge [22:15] maybe [22:15] hmm [22:15] max4lin is that in the archive? [22:15] mac4lin ;) [22:15] from launchpad [22:15] seems not [22:15] mitchell1: do you have a pointer? [22:16] fuond it [22:16] wait please [22:16] https://edge.launchpad.net/mac4lin [22:16] $ dpkg -c ../build-area/ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu5_amd64.deb | grep libstd [22:16] -rw-r--r-- root/root 737192 2008-05-10 08:18 ./usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.5.0.7 [22:16] lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2009-04-17 23:08 ./usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.7 [22:16] looks good to me [22:16] yeah [22:17] fta: also dpkg -c ../build-area/ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu5_amd64.deb | grep so$ [22:17]