[02:45] <leprasmurf> hello all.  I'm running into a problem with mythbuntu.  I have my mythbox connected to my TV by a DVI to HDMI cable, and if I leave a program paused for too long, the screen goes blank and I can't get it back.  I usually have to resort to restarting gdm.  I've gone as far as killing gnome-screensaver and chmod -x the binary.  It hasn't helped.  has anyone else run into this, and/or know the solution?
[03:30] <cwood> In order to use wakeup (apci), do I have to use mythwelcome?  I've tried to setup wakeup (without mythwelcome) and the system never shuts down.  Manual test works fine (it wakes up).
[04:08] <leprasmurf> I'm running into a problem with mythbuntu.  I have my mythbox connected to my TV by a DVI to HDMI cable, and if I leave a program paused for too long, the screen goes blank and I can't get it back.  I usually have to resort to restarting gdm.  I've gone as far as killing gnome-screensaver and chmod -x the binary.  It hasn't helped.  has anyone else run into this, and/or know the solution?
[04:20] <superm1> leprasmurf, sounds like dpms is kicking in
[04:20] <superm1> it's actually possible gnome-power-manager and/or gnome-screensaver INHIBIT dpms from the X server from kicking in
[04:21] <leprasmurf> superm1: so how do I stop dpms?
[04:21] <superm1> leprasmurf, it's normally handled for you
[04:21] <superm1> what'd you change in your install that's relevant?
[04:22] <leprasmurf> superm1: as well I could tell, nothing.  I had told the screensaver to wait for 2 hours of inactivity...it was still happening, so I disabled gnome-screensaver (the thorough way)
[04:23] <superm1> how are you starting mythfrontend?
[04:24] <leprasmurf> it's starting automatically when gdm starts
[04:24] <superm1> okay so via the .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart
[04:24] <superm1> you're not stopping it and respawning or anything like that
[04:24] <leprasmurf> no, if I restart the frontend, I use /etc/init.d/gdm
[04:25] <leprasmurf> overkill, I know, but it's the easiest way for my wife to restart it by herself
[04:27] <leprasmurf> xset -q
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[04:27] <leprasmurf> prefer blanking: yes
[04:27] <leprasmurf> timout: 600
[04:28] <superm1> yeah that's the dpms blanking stuff i'm referring to
[04:28] <leprasmurf> so mess with it in the xorg.conf?
[04:28] <superm1> normally gnome-screensaver or gnome-power-manager handle it, i'm not sure what about your situation is different though
[04:28] <superm1> you can do it in xorg.conf or add an xset when your session starts
[04:29] <leprasmurf> superm1: cool, thanks!
[04:30] <superm1> leprasmurf, np.  if you find out more information on the true root cause however (other than the bandaid), it would be appreciated
[04:30] <superm1> so that the necessity for the band aid can get lifted in case anyone else runs into it
[04:31] <leprasmurf> hrmm, what about using nvidia's control panel to make modifications?
[04:31] <leprasmurf> fyi, there is no DPMS option in the xorg.conf
[04:35] <superm1> by default there is no dpms option. you can add that stuff tho
[04:35] <superm1> i dont think nvidia's control panel has any dpms stuff in it last i looked
[04:37] <leprasmurf> I"ve been having this problem from the start.  I did just recently go from composite (via tv out) to hdmi (via dvi), but nothing I've done has solved the problem AFAIK
[04:52] <leprasmurf> superm1: seems this is a recurring issue: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/357550
[04:52] <superm1> hm
[04:53] <superm1> well it sounds like it can be solved without resorting to rash things like chmod -x gnome-screensaver then
[04:53] <superm1> that actually might do more damage than good
[04:53] <leprasmurf> :-)
[04:53] <leprasmurf> hey, drastic times call for drastic measures :-P
[04:53] <leprasmurf> I'm sure that'll be reversed on the next upgrade, but I was getting tired of my changes not doing anything
[04:54] <hads> Screen blanking is annoying.
[04:54] <leprasmurf> hads: agreed
[04:54] <superm1> i personally never ran into any issues and i've got the default screensaver setup
[04:54] <hads> DPMS is good, blanking is annoying.
[04:54] <superm1> so i dunno
[04:54] <hads> I don't have issues, except one of my TVs not turning off on DPMS off :)
[04:56] <leprasmurf> well, I've put the changes into affect, taking all the times (blank, standby, suspend, and off) to 0 in xorg.conf and restarted gdm.  we'll see if it blanks now
[04:56] <hads> Actually, one thing I have noticed is if mythfrontend crashes and I restart it manually then the screen will blank while watching TV, I need to restart gdm to get normal behaviour.
[04:56] <leprasmurf> that's my default behaviour.  it's easiest for my wife to run the one command to fix it when I'm not around
[04:57] <hads> I used to use ratpoison and mythfrontend started from xinit so it just restarted if it crashed, that was good.
[04:58] <leprasmurf> well I have to use monit for the backend, and I love that
[04:58] <leprasmurf> but the frontend isn't actually crashing, it just won't come out of blanking
[04:58] <hads> My backend is stable as which is good.
[04:59] <leprasmurf> haven't gotten as far as troubleshooting the backend yet
[05:01] <hads> Looks like it was up about 100 days until they turned off the power on my street this morning :)
[07:20] <wajimba> hey all- does anyone know a way to run the command that updates the video library from a script?
[07:21] <wajimba> the command that happens when you navigate from the main menu to "Utilities/Setup->Video Manager"
[07:25] <tgm4883> wajimba, look up mythvideo-bulk-updater or imdb-bulk-updater
[14:22] <rhpot1991> http://www.dealhack.com/archives/2009/04/logitech_harmony_520_universal_2.html
[16:26] <MythbuntuGuest66> does anyone know how to add telnet commands to the current protocol?
[20:46] <Davide> Hi installing mythtv on ubuntu 8.10 any tips?
[20:47] <Davide> If I download the Mythbuntu synaptic packages would that be better than dealing with Mythtv?
[21:07] <superm1> Davide, installing mythbuntu-desktop is easier for most people
[21:08] <superm1> then you can use mythbuntu-control-centre to set up mythtv
[21:09] <Davide> superm1, thanks so I just install in the synaptic package manager "mythbuntu-desktop"?
[21:10] <Davide> that's all I need?
[21:15] <superm1> yup
[22:27] <Davide> I installed mythbuntu on Ubuntu 8.10.  set system roles as backend and front end.  When I run setup I get:  cannot find any upnp backend?
[22:28] <Davide> could someone point me in the right direction?
[22:45] <DavidePalm> is anyone here?
[22:55] <Davide> superm1, are you there?
[22:59] <Davide> anyone know what the no upnp backend issue has to do with?
[23:31] <DavidePalm> Hi I was able to install MythTV.  When I set the storage directories to my second hard drive location, I get an error saying that MythTV couldn't write to those locations.  Could it be because it needs SUDO permissions? how do I fix it?  Thanks
[23:47] <tgm4883> !permissions | DavidePalm
[23:47] <Zinn> DavidePalm: Most things mythtv related (recording directories, etc) need to be owned by the group mythtv and the user mythtv  If you are getting "not writable" errors, check your permissions
[23:50] <DavidePalm> !permissions
[23:50] <Zinn> Most things mythtv related (recording directories, etc) need to be owned by the group mythtv and the user mythtv  If you are getting "not writable" errors, check your permissions
[23:50] <DavidePalm> :D